Tush Push Tabled, Micah’s Extension and Other NFC Coaches Breakfast Nuggets

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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we say see you next Tuesday on the beach. I'm Greg Rostal. I'm in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio. I'm with Patrick Claybon and Colleen Wolf. But look, it's a full house today, Craig.

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Speaker 2: I'm usually not sitting this close to you.

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Speaker 3: It is weird. Why are you city there?

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Speaker 4: Don't know?

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Speaker 3: Patrick took your seat. We didn't talk about Cia signed.

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Speaker 5: We didn't talking about it.

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Speaker 1: We don't have time to talk about it because we have a correspondent from the NFL Annual League meetings.

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Speaker 3: Do you hear her laughing?

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Speaker 1: And if you uh check us out on YouTube you will see her with the beautiful Breakers Resort water behind her. The colors are popping. Thank you Jordan for joining. It's just a little vibe check to start the show. How's it going down there?

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Speaker 6: Clearly everything is so terrible. What No, it's fantastic. It's been good vibes. You know, some animated discussion about the tush push and not much else. That's really been the main topic of discussion. Tabled it for now. I know you guys will get to it and what I assume will be a fantastic show. But yeah, it's been really really interesting here. You know, lots of side sessions, reporters, coaches, executives, you know, it's all happening.

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Speaker 5: Here in Jordan. Are there any particular sides of this heated discussion on the on the Brotherly show for it?

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Speaker 6: Okay, So what I like, and I'm assigning my own like storytelling to this obviously, but what I really like the dynamic that's emerged here is the two sort of dominating coaching trees, So the Sirianni Coaching Tree with Shane Steichen et cetera, et cetera, and the Shanahan McVeigh Coaching Tree with them backing their boy Matt Lafleur on this. Because the Packers sort of like took the lead and the charge. I feel like someone drew the short straw and taking the lead on this, but taking the lead in these discussions, and like you'll notice in a lot of these quotes that you're seeing from these sessions that it's all the Sirianni people like advocating for the Toush push to remain in existence with some great argument backing up that. And I think you guys know where I stand on this. And then on the other side of things, it's Lafleur and McVeigh who's on the Competition committee, and Raheem Morris and they're all talking about how they are against it. So it's a little tree battle here in the land of palm trees.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of giving rival fraternities. Oh yeah, like that's that's kind of how I'm picturing the league meetings start.

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Speaker 1: Are they not hanging out as much now because and a lot of pastel Colleen, a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, they're resort where they break it out the time of year.

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Speaker 3: It's Tuesday, and we will get two.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Toush push band being tabled for now, and there are some details we'll get into. But while we have you, Jordan, I know the league meeting party is on Monday night.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, Oh shoot, I.

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Speaker 1: Have an insider that told me Serena Williams was there randomly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how is that? Yes, you know, I'm I'm.

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Speaker 1: Sure a lot of dorky sports writers just told her like came.

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Speaker 2: We saw it on Twitter though, right, didn't we see pictures.

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Speaker 1: Of some well I saw her at like a summit, you know, she had they had Caitlin Clark there they were talking about the future of women. But she hung around for the party, which which is great. Were what was going on at the party?

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Speaker 3: Give us a little vibes?

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Speaker 1: And uh, does that also mean maybe the coaching trees, like they're not talking to each other even even.

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Speaker 2: Careful what you say about the parties?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Nice try Greg. First of all, yeah, nice try.

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Speaker 3: No, it was cool.

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Speaker 6: So I don't fan girl much because you know, we work in the NFL. We see a lot of people we really admire all the time.

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Speaker 5: Different, It's okay, you can say.

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Speaker 6: Different. That's why I advocate for the tush push, by the way. So but I also I when I saw Serena Williams at the league party, she not only looks like she could still win any tournament she wanted, but also she floats like she's this ethereal graceful. Like I squealed, I giggles, I was. I was instantly transported to my most you know, basic reactions and instincts. I like checked my hair just in case she saw me, you know, like she is incredible. It was really cool what her Kaylyn Clark, We're here to do to really talk about investing in like football, and women's sports in the future of different ways to invest in, partner and expand those efforts across the league.

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Speaker 2: And it was cool.

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Speaker 6: I talked to a lot of executives and coaches, partners and their kids who were so thrilled that that was the case. Now on the other side of things and not to you know, make this seem like it's any life. That's cool. But one of my favorite things also that I saw over the course of this week, and it does sound like a mad lib, I understand, but it was indeed Guy Fieri walking around with an unlit cigar, no with with Jay Glazer. They're holding court at all of these things and guys like turns out and I've never met this man, turns out he's just lovely. He's just a very kind person.

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Speaker 2: That's what I've heard.

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Speaker 6: Dynamic. He's dynamic. You know, don't ask him about flavortown. I source says it. You know, it gets a little sensitive about that.

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Speaker 2: He's present for a reason.

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Speaker 1: I saw him in the passenger seat of his Chevy Camaro just rolling down the street at the Atlanta super Bowl. Is it red with the Yeah with the like music just absolutely cranked and he wasn't even driving. He's just waving from the passenger seat like the mayor because everyone just wants to.

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Speaker 3: Say hide the guy. Very he really is the best.

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Speaker 1: I was having an argument with Emica this week and we are way off track here was is he the most successful reality show winner ever? Because that actually is how he was arn was next food start? So it's Kelly Clarkson, It's Carrie Underwood, it's Guy Fieri. I don't know who are the other options. I think you could make the argument it's.

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Speaker 5: Guy unless you want to take the star search route and include like ushers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's a previous generation, but that's fair.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the mayor of Flavortone.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Jordan. Meanwhile, she's holding up her phone. How tired is your your arm?

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 6: Did you guys need me anymore?

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Speaker 3: Or is that that is?

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Speaker 4: I mean, Jordan, just to your point about Serena, I did the same exact thing with Serena at the super Bowl. She walked past me and I felt like a teenager. I immediately grabbed my phone and I'm never on top of these things. I'm always missing the moment, like I don't I don't get my camera out in time whatever. It out so fast and the video is so cool. She's so cool. She really does float. You're one thousand percent correct. She has this aura around her. She's just cool, Like everything about her is cool. And I will never in this lifetime reach anywhere near the coolness that she is.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I have to tell you so, like sports writers are famously like anything, free food, like that's where everyone's attention. Yeah, is free food, free drinks like this leak party had to move indoors because there was a bunch of.

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Speaker 2: Lightning and a hurricane morning or something.

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Speaker 6: I might be off on that factually, but something was happening that cuts an alarm, and so everyone moved inside. Free drinks, as I mentioned, and the Parmesan wheel was getting everyone's attention, and that was on once. That was on one side of the room. However, when Serena walked in, it was like this, like hush. It was like the prom queen like you know in the in the nineties movies, and everyone just whipped their heads around and like, oh my god, she's so freaking cool.

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Speaker 2: Of all the cheeses, I know, I'm Jean Wheel. I've never been to these meetings. This is awful.

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Speaker 3: Next time, Jordan.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate the important groundbreaking reporting you have done in the beautiful backdrop.

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Speaker 3: It's worth it. You don't have to work out your arms today. Thank you, Jordan's Love you, Jordan.

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Speaker 6: Thanks guys, have a fun see next Tuesday. Love you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'll respect to Serena Williams for that that comment about like she could go back out there and uh and play a little disrespectful to the current ladies. I don't think she's going out there and beaten Arena Sabalanca IgA my girl?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 3: Is that? The yes?

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Roger Goodell representing the NFL Super Bowl hat at the Jesse Pula Arena Sablanca Miami Final.

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Speaker 4: Did you see her steal Sablanca's Margarita the postgame show clip.

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Speaker 1: We've We've had a lot of women tennis dock. I'm afraid where where.

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Speaker 5: Would you see right now? Where would you see Serena.

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Speaker 3: Like if she tried to go back and play.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you watched a couple of videos, she worked on it for months. Where would you see her in the next in the next open tournament.

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Speaker 3: Like twenty five?

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Speaker 1: Maybe?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 1: If that, I mean, you're basically on how she ended her career. She was trying to win back then too. Yeah, it's tough. Sounds like she could play. Yes, she would be, She would be good enough to be most of the tour. But I'm just saying respect, respect this show. If we want to start off talking a little Serena, talking, a little scene setting, talk, a little toushbush, we're going to the rest of the show.

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Speaker 3: We're really just going through the news.

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Speaker 1: We're going through some rule changes, and we're also going to have a special appearance once again by the New York Giants in their escape room, which now has added Russell Wilson to the room.

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited about this. Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: If you listened last week in outstanding appearance by Joe Shane and Jameis Winston and Colleen of course talking about that escape room. But yeah, let's talk about the touchbush right now. The idea that they would ban it has been tabled. According to reported from ESPN. Katherin kaylor I believe she said it was about even in the room sixteen to sixteen. They suggested that perhaps the rule proposal will be changed and they might revote on it. So we're not done talking about this, but for now it is tabled. Let's actually listen to Rich McKay, who is ahead the head of that rules committee.

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Speaker 8: On the Health and safety, that exact discussion of you know, there's not that many plays, there's not that much data, there's you know, all that was discussed. I think from a health and safety standpoint, a lot of people are concerned of what may be, not opposed what has been. But I still think that it got to it. It went to many different directions beyond health and safety, just the traditionalness of the play, the idea that you could push another player, the idea that we prohibit pushing on the defense but we don't prohibited on the offense. It just went in all those different directions. It didn't it didn't just stay on health and safety.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the whole health and safety thing is just vibe seems vibe space. Like I actually believe Sean McDermott when he talks about it, he seems the most aggressive about it among all the coaches, is like, we just want to prevent future injuries, but there's no evidence that there would be future injuries.

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Speaker 4: It seems like some I mean, why don't want to just have your defense prevent some extra yards.

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Speaker 2: There no situations. I'm just saying.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles sent out a tweet also just at least feeling like they got a stay of execution that I appreciate, which was just like the emoji for the toushbush which is officially a Georgia peach and a handstopping it.

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Speaker 3: So congratulations to the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: I wish McKay would have been more firm as opposed to saying a lot of people are concerned about what may be and we don't have actual data there.

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Speaker 2: How big is that?

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Speaker 5: Just say like, hey, the people bringing up these concerns don't have the actual data to support it and they shouldn't be bringing up those because that's what that's what he's essentially saying. And like so there it is like there is no health or safety, we don't have enough data to determine that, and there we go, like that's the end of the health and safety discussion.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just feel like there was a rule that the NFL had and they changed it in two thousand and five so players would be able to push ball carriers, and then no one took advantage of that until the Eagles did, and now everyone's upset.

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Speaker 1: And McKay also said in another bite SoundBite that they don't like it when a rule seems specifically targeted at one team that that makes them feel uncomfortable and generally is a sign that it's not a very good rule. So they are gonna circle back. They talked about we're going to look at the history of it. Why did why exactly did we you know, change the rule back in twenty years ago, and they might make the rule that there's no pushing or pulling on offense or defense. They'll talk about it soon, but I sixteen sixteen, that's not close to getting it over the top. It has to be what two I think three quarters, so that you have eight more teams to convince. I hope the Eagles don't make it happen because when Sean McVay spoke about it, they're just like, it doesn't look like a football play. Just looks like a rugby play.

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Speaker 5: Look, it's a football player, Like unless we're banning all quarterbacks snakes, and it would be the Jalen Hurts rule. It's not like Kenny Pickett was out there grounding out yard like this is this would be the Jalen Hurts rule.

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Speaker 1: One thing I liked that Sirianni said too was like, you know, it was almost like a warning, Uh, if you if you make this rule, like which is all, We're still gonna We're still gonna sneak it. He's like, we're still gonna sneak it.

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Speaker 3: We don't.

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Speaker 1: We don't call the play, we don't teach to play any different. He was arguing against the notion that somehow they do it differently than a normal steakuse like, we we coached the sneak the exact same way and our sneak would be just as successful.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He said that the Eagles work so hard to master the fundamentals of the play, arguing it would be unfair to ban the push because other teams aren't successful with it.

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Speaker 3: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: And I appreciated how really coaching Nick Sirianni was at such an early time in the morning. We actually have a picture of him. This is courtesy of Zach Berman at the p h Y Podcast. And just to circle back to our show on Monday, Nick Shook and I were talking about the coaches that were annually, the ones that looked the most tired and maybe had the longest night the night before. Of the coaches, Mike Tomlin was always high on that list. Kyle Shanahan was another one. Nick Sirianni definitely on that list.

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Speaker 2: You know what, good for him won the Super Bowl this year. You do your thing.

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Speaker 1: It could be a bad still, you know, it could be I'm being totally unfair. It's also a bad draw by the NFC coaches they get the morning after the party, whereas yeah, the other coaches, but they're they're probably partying. They're here the breakers that they're hard working guys, they deserve it, and.

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Speaker 5: The party is probably after the party, right, nobody's really.

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Speaker 3: Turning on exactly.

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Speaker 2: There's multiple parties within the party.

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Speaker 3: You're right.

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Speaker 5: I've never been a party to either one.

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Speaker 1: You're right, But sometimes some people don't pay themselves. They might be not the ones that make it out as long. But you're right. The more it's not usually the coaches, that's fair. The more embarrassing performances are after the party.

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Speaker 2: It just seems like a bad idea, like hydrate everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's still ultimately a work function. It's still kind of you know, Christmas parties have taken out a lot of employees over the years, and this feels like a similar situation.

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Speaker 3: You just want to be careful about.

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Speaker 1: The Lion's proposal about playoff seating was tabled, but I did see from Dave Burquette, who covers the Lions in Detroit, that there's optimism that it could still pass with tweaks.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know what those tweaks are. Just hold that thought. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: Their proposal was about the NFC North. For instance, last year, the Vikings would have been seated over the NFC South winner, the wildcard winners getting a higher I mean the wildcard records.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you like that.

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Speaker 2: I love that rule. I think that's how the rule should be.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's really fair if you are in a mediocre division that you were going to a home game, Like the best teams should have the home games.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. And Sean mcvay's point, like, hey, you're deemphasizing winning the division. Yeah that's the point. Yeah, we're emphasizing all the others. Yeah, that's that's the point. Like it's it's not an argument to me that this division title is sec Like nobody's putting up division title banners.

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Speaker 1: Right in Seattle now, Seattle won the division when they had the beast quake, but they were hosting I believe, like a twelve win.

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Speaker 3: Saints team something like that. That's this year.

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Speaker 1: I guess the beast quake would it wouldn't have happened. I'm almost making a case against it. But that game, it wasn't really fair that Saints team kind of had earned that home game. You still get to make the playoffs. You still could have done the beast quake in New Orleans. We are gonna expand replay assists. That's something we talked about last week, where like the replays. I know you've really studied up on these rules changes. Oh my god, you went called an experts.

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Speaker 4: There's anyone that loves rules, it's me. I love rules, I love following rules. I hate when people break rules.

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Speaker 1: You do a weekly segment famously on NFL Gate I Walt Anderson.

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Speaker 2: My guy, Walt Anderson and Mooch. It's really fun. I swear to god, I love it. It's it's me and Mooch's favorite segment.

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Speaker 4: And we have multiple calls with Walt Anderson throughout the week and he sends us the videos that that the teams get of all the cut ups from the week and the different things that they're emphasizing.

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Speaker 2: And I talked to Walt before this.

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Speaker 4: Show, Yes, and he was talking about the expanded replay because that was a topic multiple times on our Sunday show. So now if there's a call that's egregiously wrong, they can pick up the flag. They can never throw a flag down with replaces, they can only pick it up.

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Speaker 2: But if a.

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Speaker 4: Ref or if a call is for a face mask or a horse caller or anything.

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Speaker 3: Roughing the pass, roughing the passic kicker.

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Speaker 2: And it's wrong, then that will be fixed.

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Speaker 3: Progress.

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Speaker 5: I love, Yes, expand away. Let's continue to expand. And I know there's folks out there that it's like, oh, Patrick's arguing against rest having jobs. No, I just want to see them in like an executive role in that when you see executives and don't necessarily know what they do, like, that's what I would like refereeing to be like.

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Speaker 2: And all executives have assistance, and.

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Speaker 1: That's what this is like to be like the umpire in tennis, for instance. At this point, because everything is electronic, you're not really sure what they do. Although when they went electronic that did cost a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of people jobs, but there are still a lot of subjective calls that replaces will never assist.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think they're ever going to go back to pass interference being part of that. Touchbacks will be taken out to the thirty five yard line, So that's exciting if you send a touch back a lot more kickoff returns.

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Speaker 4: Exactly because when it was at the thirty before, the average drive start was at the twenty nine they found, so that was just like a one yard difference.

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Speaker 2: Now it will be a six yard difference. That's huge.

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Speaker 1: Kylie is so prepared for the rules part of the show that I just feel like we're in the way. I kind of want her to lead the way and I know you're so unprepared for the rest of the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I want you to cook. I want you to cook now.

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Speaker 1: No, It's like it's like, you know, for my Celtics when Sam Howser comes off the bench, like get him his yea, his ten to three point attempts in the eight minutes that he's in the game, and then.

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Speaker 4: This will incentified teams to force kickoffs.

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Speaker 3: I am excited about that. Was that was a really good rule.

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Speaker 1: I also notice they changed the overtime rules and now both teams get the ball, but overtime is gonna stay at ten minutes. They had originally said they'd expanded to fifteen minutes, but they're going to keep it at ten minutes. But both teams get the ball now in regular season overtime. I'm I'm fine with this, but I think there could be repercussions, like what what like more ties?

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Speaker 3: It's just encouraging more ties.

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Speaker 1: Not that there's like gonna be a flood of ties, but if the average amount of ties per year, and I have no idea what it is, I would guess it's about one.

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Speaker 3: If that in I like double, you know, I don't think so, you don't think so it might go to like two.

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Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: Just because now both teams get it and you're going to run out of time.

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Speaker 5: That's fine as long as right, because if since the rules are consistent now from a regular season to the postseason, and regular season games do impact the postseason, it's what makes the most sense.

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Speaker 1: But they're not consistent. This is not consistent the regulation in the regular season, it'll be ten minutes and then the game's over. So take yourself back to the Super Bowl between the forty nine Ers and the Chiefs. The forty nine Ers have that long field goal drive which took forever. Now they might have played it even differently. They probably would have tried to take as much time off it as possible. Then the Chiefs get the ball. They would have only had if it was a regular season game, a couple minutes to go drive down the field. They probably would have been having to play faster and probably would have had a field goal attempt.

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Speaker 3: But although you really never know, the whole world would be different.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying if that was a regular season game, if it's a postseason game, then you can just play play it forever.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, also, a tie. It sucks when you're watching the game. It sucks if you're playing the game. But at the end of the year, when all of the seating and the records mean something extra, those ties are good for teams.

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Speaker 3: I don't hate the tie as much as other people.

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Speaker 6: Know.

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Speaker 5: There's this group of people who do this performative Oh I hate ties. It's like it's bad, it's just the worst.

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Speaker 2: Thing, Like, oh, I hate a tie in real time.

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Speaker 5: But I would prefer to have a winner to the game. But when we're like grinding people in the pulp, you know, thirty minutes after the game, it's like, okay.

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Speaker 1: Plus it brings about the worst cliche in sports, which is that it's like kissing your sister.

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Speaker 4: I don't just why why that should be banned? Not the touch push?

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Speaker 5: Who brought Who made that original?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Because I mean there's a whole lot of people who are just you know, they can't have an original thought, and they just repeat things that they heard. Yeah, but who's the first person to say that? Because I have some questions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's like kissing your sister on the cheek. Is that okay?

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Speaker 5: That's fine? No, they the implication is not cheek.

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Speaker 3: That's not good.

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Speaker 2: I don't like any of it.

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Speaker 1: Our research department, led by Eric Roberts and Chris Bobona, say that we've had five ties since twenty nineteen. Okay, so that's in six seasons. So my one per year was about right.

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Speaker 2: How many did we have last year?

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Speaker 3: None? We actually haven't had any since twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's just random, you know, there was there was two and twenty two, and then one in nineteen twenty and twenty one.

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Speaker 3: So we've had a little while.

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Speaker 1: The last tie was Commander's Giants back in twenty two two.

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Speaker 2: It's East of Them.

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Speaker 5: Edgar rip Miller in nineteen forty six is credited with the Kissingers.

00:22:41
Speaker 1: I love I love how absolutely random this show is. Let's us wrap the rules part of it, and then we're going to take a little break. The NFL shortened the time necessary to flex a TNF game. It used to be four weeks, now it's three weeks. Not really that important. The lion idea to eliminate automatic first downs for holding calls doesn't pass. Dan Campbell wasn't totally giving up, said it had a little support in the room, but that did not happen. Teams can now wear throwbacks four times a year.

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Speaker 3: I love it. Three.

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Speaker 5: I like that throwbacks if you wear them eight times in two years, though, just just make that the uniform.

00:23:18
Speaker 1: And then this isn't This isn't a rule, but I just thought I would put it here at the beginning of the show because it affects us the most.

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Speaker 3: We're playing a triple header on Christmas. Now, have you heard about this? Two?

00:23:27
Speaker 1: Netflix games and one Amazon Prime game. Now it's I don't know if it's going to be annually, but this is a Thursday, it's traditionally a football day.

00:23:38
Speaker 3: They're loading up. We've gone from one to two to three.

00:23:41
Speaker 2: I hope there's four next year.

00:23:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh wow, maybe it's the late November birthday. But I've always loved Thanksgiving and so making everything Thanksgiving is better, and so now we get it on Christmas without like the genocide denial, and so that's cool.

00:23:55
Speaker 2: Do you usually work it?

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Speaker 5: No? Not Thanksgiving all co work.

00:24:01
Speaker 3: Two different perspectives here. Thanksgiving, though, you get stuck working.

00:24:04
Speaker 5: But yeah, league guy, everything thinks.

00:24:07
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, more football, more football.

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Speaker 4: We don't need.

00:24:10
Speaker 2: Holidays with our families.

00:24:13
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, we want to spend holidays here right here, or at the game.

00:24:18
Speaker 5: Facts.

00:24:19
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm always in support of more football in generously, I famously was the originator of the idea that we should just play two games a day for the entire Nflcon. They made up a whole mox schedule and actually he there's no days off. That was before I had my second child, and I've now come a lot around, So that's a bad idea.

00:24:42
Speaker 4: Greg you really did this and you really thought about it. Yes, and really picture was over and this this was.

00:24:49
Speaker 1: Over a decade ago. I thought two games a day. We just spread it out. Yeah, everyone's excited for every game.

00:24:54
Speaker 2: Then every day is football. Now every day is a Sunday.

00:24:58
Speaker 1: So look forward to Christmas. Yeah, I just it's a lot. It's a lot to make that such an NFL day. I have mixed feelings. I do have mixed feelings.

00:25:06
Speaker 4: I kind of I like a if we're gonna have a Christmas slate, I feel like one game is.

00:25:12
Speaker 1: Good, I'm kind of with you there, and yet more football we'll be covering it here.

00:25:17
Speaker 3: Oh yeah on NFL Day.

00:25:18
Speaker 1: I have a little bit of mixed feelings on Christmas in general, because my family leaves me for it, and so I have to pretend that Christmas they leave you every year is the weekend before. Yes, And then everyone hears that, and then they get bummed out by it, and then they.

00:25:31
Speaker 3: Start like, oh, you should come over to do this.

00:25:33
Speaker 1: I think, no, no, it's fine, And so I actually thought like it was kind of like a nice free day.

00:25:38
Speaker 2: I have been on that side where I'm like come over.

00:25:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and it's fine, I'm just it's but now that there's football, it's like, okay, you can't even just chill and go to like a movie with like a movie or just whatever. You got to kind of watch them.

00:25:55
Speaker 4: As long as they don't touch Christmas Eve, I'm good they do.

00:25:58
Speaker 3: They do.

00:25:59
Speaker 1: We had a Christmas A Network game a few years ago, hopefully three games on Christmas. Looking forward to Eric, I hope you're ready Christmas night. We're doing the show.

00:26:08
Speaker 2: He stays ready, so he doesn't get ready right now.

00:26:10
Speaker 3: Let's take a quick break. We're going to come back.

00:26:12
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about all the NFC coaches they talked at the Coach's Breakfast, one of the more random annual traditions. And yes, we're going back into that escape room with the Giant.

00:26:25
Speaker 3: Yes we are.

00:26:34
Speaker 4: Previously on NFL First Dates, Jamis Winston and the Giants are in the heart of the Lower east Side at NFC East Escape, the kind of place you find on a damp, gloomy night, next to an abandoned warehouse covered in graffiti. Inside the escape room, an unforgettable night is unfolding. Jamis, ever the showman, leads a captive audience through the Dallas Chamber. Here distractions abound, limits are tested, and the photosensitive will not survive. It's a first date with grave consequences. Flashing lights, pom poms, and ear splitting country music fills the space as the group desperately tries to solve star shaped puzzles. In the far corner of chaos, Little Jordan Humphrey unlocks a hidden compartment. Click, the room goes silent. Chauncey Golston gasps. A holographic projection of Jerry Jones splashes the wall. His message will change the course of this evening. Beads of sweat begin to form on Tommy DeVito's face. The long hots at dinner where a bad idea Jamis grabs Tommy by the shoulders and tells him to stay focused. Suddenly the room feels smaller. It's getting warmer and more difficult de breathe. As time ticks on, Jerry speaks in cryptic code, saying things like we're all in stats are for losers, and I tried to get us what I thought was the equivalent of a romo with Quincy Carter. In the third round, he ends the odd rant with four words, The future is calling A phone rings next to Brian Daball. He doesn't answer because he doesn't yet know who's calling the plays next season, Jamis springs into action to.

00:28:39
Speaker 2: Take the call.

00:28:40
Speaker 4: He's in full control right now until he hears the voice on the other end. The glint in his eye immediately disappears. The call is coming from inside the house. An unexpected addition to the room, A hidden door swings open to reveal the sly grin on Russell Wilson's face. Heard you guys were doing some divisional bondage, I mean bonding, his voice echoing through the room. Mind if I joined the party, Party, Party, Just a little friendly competition to be continued.

00:29:24
Speaker 5: Brilliant.

00:29:25
Speaker 4: Time ticks on, keeps on ticking. Will they get out of the escape room? I don't know if they're going to get out of the NFC just.

00:29:33
Speaker 3: I don't know either. I don't know if Davill ever gets out.

00:29:36
Speaker 5: It sounds like they had firm leadership.

00:29:37
Speaker 2: But now stability is completely right too.

00:29:41
Speaker 5: Many cooks.

00:29:42
Speaker 1: Also just excellent writing in so many different ways, but also picking the three funniest names you could from the Giants Chauncey Golston, Little Jordan Humphrey and Tommy DeVito. So it's just that's great little huh. It's the small touches.

00:29:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chauncey Golston came from Dallas.

00:30:00
Speaker 3: That makes sense too.

00:30:01
Speaker 1: But just words, Wow, we're gonna have to make me a weekly segment of calling visits go to the Eagles section. Oh, speaking of which, what a transition. Let's talk about Nick Sirianni. So we talked toush Push earlier. But just in terms of the team, there were a couple of little nuggets and you know, I'm diving deep.

00:30:19
Speaker 3: So most of these we can be quick on.

00:30:21
Speaker 1: But just some of the nugs that came out from the coach's breakfast on Tuesday morning. And yes, it's very early when they start this. He was asked about Dallas Godter and he said, right now he's on our team. We'll see what happens and how that happens, and that door is not just back open. That answer makes me think Dallas Goddard's not going to be on the Eagles unless they're playing some sort of hardball publicly. They don't get the benefit of him not being on the Eagles financially until after June first, So maybe that's part of it, or maybe they're trying to work out a trade. But very interesting.

00:31:01
Speaker 4: Is how he trying to get like an extra draft pick here, maybe a fourth rounder or something.

00:31:06
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a few more shots at the barrel. But I wonder you get diminishing returns at some point because Dallas Goddard's skill set isn't just readily available. Yeah, there, and there's no answer that's currently on the team.

00:31:18
Speaker 4: Right And I had such a good streak of tight ends in Philadelphia, zach Ertz before that, even Brent Selleck.

00:31:28
Speaker 1: And he can still play, but he has struggled to stay on the field. So I think that's that's where it's at. And then making decisions. And Howie Roseman was asked about it too, and he just said, there's no update. You know, how he's been a tremendous player, and they signed guys Harrison Bryant, Kylie grantson. But now I'm kind of combining how he comments. And he had another quote I wanted to talk about, but I think it should be married with this Goddard deal. He says, quote, we are incomplete right now. Talent Act quisition season has just started.

00:32:02
Speaker 4: Oh season SZN I mean, and it was pointed.

00:32:10
Speaker 3: Out on Twitter.

00:32:13
Speaker 1: I believe this was from Zach Berman as well, getting a lot of pop on this show that at this time three years ago when they were last at the Breakers, how he said something similar. And after that part of the off season, they.

00:32:29
Speaker 3: Traded for a j.

00:32:30
Speaker 1: Brown, they traded for Chauncey Gardner Johnson, and there was another big off season move that I'm forgetting about off the top of my head, but the point being they brought in Oh it was James Bradbury bringing him as a free agent who ended up playing a big role for them. And that makes me think, Okay, I've been talking about the Eagles have been weirdly quiet this offseason, just picking around the margins. I thought they might push to the middle of like let's really go for it. And now I'm kind of circling draft weekend. I'm thinking about Dallas Gotter. He could be part of this as part of some trades that they still have some significant moves to make.

00:33:08
Speaker 3: He's basically saying it, Yeah, I.

00:33:10
Speaker 2: Mean, he's there. It's no secret though.

00:33:13
Speaker 4: Also everyone expects the Eagles and Howie Roseman to make a splash and make moves before the draft. That's what happens, That's what they do. But it is a strange strategy.

00:33:25
Speaker 5: There's two tight ends with a first round grade that might be available at thirty two, where that could ultimately determine how they go and maybe them maybe the draft is what explains the right now and.

00:33:41
Speaker 1: There's a couple good those second round tight ends two or Mason Taylor might be a guy they look at as a guy you would take in the first round, or Elijah Arroyo.

00:33:51
Speaker 2: I would assume that.

00:33:52
Speaker 4: They will trade out of that spot so someone else can hop in there and get the rights to like a quarterback or something that they want to just take a flag on. I feel like that always happens with the last spot in the first round.

00:34:03
Speaker 5: I would doom Jackson Dart. If somebody comes up and makes a trade with Howie at thirty two right and Dart, that would spell disaster.

00:34:11
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Nick was just like a little sweaty, it's early in the morning and stuff, But just that the tone in the way he was answering this, I now kind of expect Dallas got it would not be on the ego side.

00:34:19
Speaker 4: Now that you're now that you've put it into that perspective and seeing his photo and seeing that he maybe didn't look like he was at one hundred percent himself now now that it has even more truth to him.

00:34:32
Speaker 1: Art Rooney, the second UH, spoke to reporters on Tuesday and was a little more revealing on the Aaron Rodgers front, saying, we keep hearing that he's headed in our direction, and so it seems to be that all signs are positive so far dot dot dot, and that the Steelers will quote wait a little while longer, but not forever, that they'll only have to wait a little while longer.

00:34:58
Speaker 3: He's basically saying this thing happening.

00:35:00
Speaker 1: This is almost like the boss revealing more than the guys underneath of Mike Tomlin or their GM wanted to. But he's basically assuming Aaron Rodgers is going to be on the Steelers.

00:35:09
Speaker 4: I feel like he's just looking at his phone waiting for the text to come through, Like this is like someone who is just sort of checking their phone every five minutes to see if this person texted them.

00:35:21
Speaker 2: Yet No, still not there. I don't know.

00:35:24
Speaker 5: It's giving that it feels like everybody has been very careful on every step of the process, and this feels like the dangerous move where everybody is on tiptoes and you have to abide by the rules of this person who could do anything. You don't know what This person's a wild card. You don't know how they're going to make the decision or what's going to play into it, so you don't want to mess up. And when you're the person who ultimately is making the decisions in art roomy the second you can say things like this, I'm just concerned that the habitual line stepper that's involved that we're discussing, who people are afraid to criticize because they don't know what he's gonna do. How's how's he going to react to like, Oh, you're expecting it. Oh well, nobody tells me what to do, right that that would be market.

00:36:07
Speaker 1: And if you're already dealing with that, like is this really the relationship you want?

00:36:10
Speaker 5: Set a date? He should set a date.

00:36:13
Speaker 4: Oh, a deadline is great, because I'm wondering if at this point Aaron Rodgers is just asking for concessions from Arthur Smith or like, what what is happening?

00:36:22
Speaker 1: Who knows? Uh, we'll put a pint on it. More on this topic on Wednesday show. I'm actually going to have Dave damashek on the program you are, and we are going to just present the case of why the stealers shouldn't do this.

00:36:36
Speaker 3: What about Fruit of the Year, Well, I'll ask.

00:36:38
Speaker 1: Him about how that's shaping up. So fu So thanks, before it's too late. We had we had to move this show up. Uh wait that your very first podcast.

00:36:47
Speaker 3: For the NFL.

00:36:48
Speaker 5: It was on It was on the DDFP. Okay, I owe this headset to check.

00:36:52
Speaker 4: Actually, when I auditioned for NFL Network, he was the person that was sitting at the desk with me while I auditioned.

00:36:59
Speaker 2: So he was like the faux analyst.

00:37:01
Speaker 1: And he was obviously instrumental in getting Yeah, I wouldn't be here off the ground around the NFL podcast off the ground too.

00:37:10
Speaker 3: So he's the best. Everyone.

00:37:11
Speaker 1: Check out his latest YouTube video by the way, for Dan Levatard's show. It's it's outstanding. You'll find it there on Chick's page. All right, let's go through this. Not a lot of other huge headlines, but when we're talking Steelers, it made me think of DK Metcalf and Dave Canalis volunteered to kay Adams on her show that they were in on on DK metcalf. There was some reporting about that, but she asked him about like, hey, what about Tyreek Hill and he was like, well, we were in on DK. There were some interesting conversations there. He also then said, well, but we've got Xavier Laguette. We think he could be that guy. And when talking about the number eight overall pick, he says, we have to address defense. They were dead last in defense, so kind of tipping his hand there.

00:37:51
Speaker 3: I do wonder.

00:37:52
Speaker 1: Though, I think this tyreek Hill situation is bubbling as a possibility, and I would put the page Anther's near the top of the list of a team just crazy enough to do it.

00:38:03
Speaker 5: I don't know it would be crazy. It would be who's willing to make the biggest financial investment in Tyreek Hill at this point.

00:38:08
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not saying crazy or even desperate, but I do think there's a risk rewards situation with Tyreek Hill that wasn't there as much for the Dolphins in that his age and the money, you know, and potential decline with everything else, and by everything else, I just think he takes management as a as a star receiver potentially on the decline Tyre.

00:38:34
Speaker 4: I just can't picture Tyreek Hill in Carolina with that team and the way that they play, and his personality in general.

00:38:42
Speaker 3: I do think you would fill.

00:38:43
Speaker 1: With Bryce Young though, like Bryce Tua, like a lot of yards after the catch, like I could see that it.

00:38:49
Speaker 2: Could go great, could also really blow up.

00:38:52
Speaker 5: I kind of want I kind of want to see Tyreek out out of that offense at this point. If in Miami after twenty twenty five, I'm I'm willing to be done with they with this edition of the Miami Dolphin.

00:39:05
Speaker 1: Okay, everyone working there disagrees, but I know what you're saying. Raheem Morris was talking about kirk Cousins. He just was like, we really want him to be our backup, but if it's good for both of us, we would like to see a trade happen. We're kind of expecting a trade to happen by Draft day. I mean, on draft weekend. Would you look forward to Colleen kirk Cousins Week one starter Cleveland Browns.

00:39:30
Speaker 4: Oh, that's interesting because last year I'm thinking about how night one of the draft, kirk Cousins was on the mind of everyone when the Falcons drafted a quarterback in the first round. And so if that happens again, that would be really interesting for Kirk Cousins. It doesn't make me all of a sudden think that the Browns are going to be good.

00:39:52
Speaker 2: If Kirk Cousins is there.

00:39:53
Speaker 1: No, and I'm checking this schedule, they're not on the schedule. I would like to see like a Falcons revenge all the Falcons Browns. Yeah, that would be a good So it would it be revengeful I don't pay me so much money and not telling me, well, you're going to draft Michael Pennox right, and then benching me when I clearly couldn't move.

00:40:12
Speaker 5: So, but if Draft Knight is the idea with the Browns picking too, wouldn't it incentivize the Browns to do this before Draft Knight?

00:40:20
Speaker 1: Not if they have sort of a tacit agreement that Kirk wants to get past the draft and make sure that they don't take a quarterback, and and that's the whole idea, and you trade.

00:40:29
Speaker 3: Them on dra date maybe they're waiting, and yeah, you trade them for some more fifth rout pick, And so that's happens in D three.

00:40:36
Speaker 1: I don't know, it should be fine Todd Bowles I thought was interesting, said they really needed to draft a cornerback. Mike Rabel said that you got to see Will Campbell, who's a potential number four overall pick, as a left tackle.

00:40:48
Speaker 3: How can you not see him?

00:40:50
Speaker 5: That's that's what you gotta do.

00:40:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it makes sense, but people are.

00:40:54
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a silly idea where it's like, oh, well, if it's not worth just put him at guard tackle.

00:40:58
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur in them left tackle News says their first round pick from a year ago will compete at left tackle, and confirmed Elkton Jenkins is going to play at center. They think he could be an all Pro center. He's bounced around all over that offensive line. This one My only interested interests me what is it? But in Judy Batista, I think she's with me on this, this historical stuff that we get into. They have now decided the NFL that All American Football Conference stats will count towards NFL stats. Can anyone in either room tell me what the All American Football Conference is. I should have prepped you on this, but I didn't any idea, any idea. It was a league that merged with the NFL, but not the AFL. It was back like in the late forties into fifty that merged with the NFL. And I believe you know there's a number of teams that still exist from the afcaf Discussia.

00:41:57
Speaker 3: He absolutely would.

00:41:59
Speaker 4: I miss Wes, he's so much knowledge on this.

00:42:02
Speaker 1: Okay, So the AAFC was eight teams at the time, the NFL was ten teams at the time. They forced a merger, and from that merger, the Cleveland Browns were born. Well, they were already there winning titles with Paul Brown back in the AFC. The San Francisco forty nine ers come from that, and then the New York Yanks, which eventually I believe became the Giants.

00:42:28
Speaker 3: Also using baseball team shout out to the Los Angeles Dons. Did not know that that was a team.

00:42:34
Speaker 2: What we need to find merch and they.

00:42:36
Speaker 1: Play at the college they played at the coliseum literally still exists. But the big takeaway from this for me is that Paul Brown now gets like twenty seven more wins, so he moves up the all time coaching list.

00:42:47
Speaker 3: He's now up to number seven.

00:42:49
Speaker 1: A lot of people would say maybe the most important person if you had to choose one in the history of football, Bill Belichick would say Paul Brown would be the most important one, at least in terms of the NFL, like in terms of modern and then this one is the one. I like Marion Motley, who is also Belichick's favorite all time player, a running back full back with the Browns, is now the all time leader in yards per carry, not counting quarterbacks like Lamar and Michael Vicker ahead of them, but in terms of running backs, Mary and Motley. So I just thought, if you want to know about football like that, that's that's something. Let's talk a little bit about Micah Parsons. As we were taping, Jerry Jones spoke about Michael Parsons's contract situation. Michael Parsons then quickly responded on Twitter, let's listen to Jerry Jones.

00:43:34
Speaker 7: The agent is not a factor here of something to worry about. And I don't know his name, awful And so my point is that I'm not trying to domeaning in any way, but just saidn't about an agent. The agent doesn't have one thing to do with what we're doing when we get on a football field against the team. Condo.

00:44:01
Speaker 5: There it is Jerry Jones and I are on the same execs. Since the agent is not an issue in this what's what's the prohibiting factor?

00:44:12
Speaker 1: I I don't know, But that agent is David Mullagetta, who is the most powerful agent I would say in the NFL, one of the most powerful people. I would say, Jerry knows his name in the NFL.

00:44:25
Speaker 2: That's two.

00:44:27
Speaker 3: Well, it could go both ways. Maybe not right.

00:44:30
Speaker 1: I don't know. He might he might be saying that to make a point, which I would love, or you know, so petty, he might just be getting up there. Michael Pyson's responded uh on Twitter, sayting facts, David is the best. I will not be doing any deal without him involved, like anyone with good sense. I hired experts for a reason. There's no one I trust more. There will be no back doors in this contract. Like, uh, I don't even know what that means. How that is responding to the thing. But Jerry Jones that was it's pretty disrespectful, I guess, or just ignorance, I don't know, Or.

00:45:04
Speaker 5: It's a proper analysis of the way that the system works. Yeah, you know. David Mugiletta is an employee of Michael Parsons, who's gonna harvest three percent of his earnings or between one and three percent. I don't know. I don't know exactly what he's paying paying them for.

00:45:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't planning to bring this up either, but it's mullagedda day. Apparently across the national media. On First Take this morning, they were talking about Jimmy Haslm's comments They're the Browns owner about essentially how you know they had the big swing and a miss with Deshaun Watson. And as they were talking about that in context, all the hosts and it was Stephen A. Smith, Shannon Sharp, and Ryan Clark all went out of their way to praise David Mullagetta and saying what a great job that David Melageda did negotiating that contract. And they're all laughing about it and saying, like, what an amazing job that he did in that scenario. And so I do want to point out what he did in that scenario was essentially get the entire media landscape to stay quiet about how much the sexual assault allegations were going to affect the rest of Deshaun Watson's career and kind of like look past that as a factor in what a contract would be and convince the Browns to sign a sexual predator for two hundred and thirty million dollars, not only ruining their franchise because he was not good at football anymore, but because of all those allegations and the endless kind of court battles that he was in and the suspension that kept him away from the game, you know, potentially affected not only himself and how his career is basically over, but also made it a miserable experience to root for the Browns or play for the Browns or be employed by the Browns for three years. And those three guys are all laughing and saying what a great job the agent did, But also there was a great job.

00:47:04
Speaker 4: There were teams lining up for this, So the Browns were just the ones that ended up with him, but it could have been.

00:47:13
Speaker 3: The Saints, yeah, or the Falcons.

00:47:15
Speaker 5: Yeah. It honestly gives Mugalletta too much credit that the landscape was fine with Deshaun Watson coming back. That's how he came back. As Jimmy Haslam said, we'll give him credit for saying the thing he wanted him ultimately, and Mugalletta had a player who was in what we thought was the problem of his career, who was an actual free agent and had the leverage in that situation. There were there were other agents. I would argue that I right, in that position, we could have negotiated a a guarantee.

00:47:43
Speaker 2: What a plot to us that would be if you became an agent, Yeah.

00:47:46
Speaker 5: It would be. And unfortunately I would have to tell the people the truth that the player is the person who's actually providing the labor. And if a team is interested in the services of the player, then they could contact the player and make the deal without me. Right. But yeah, I'll take I'll take money. But this idea that he was necessary in that way. Too many people were willing to give to shop lots of money.

00:48:06
Speaker 1: Sure, but also all these years later, this is an ultimate example of the classic tweet that you do not, under any circumstances, got to hand it to them. You do not have to hand it to Dave David mullagetto what what he did in that moment. He was He was not ultimately in service of his client, like any any of it was not a good.

00:48:29
Speaker 5: Job or any client right where the league is now going to be more reluctant to give a player full of guaranteed contract specifically because of this situation. It may have got for business, it may have set everybody back.

00:48:41
Speaker 1: Well, that was a detour I didn't expect to make a necessary one as Yeah, a very annoying thing to see this this morning, truly to stop.

00:48:51
Speaker 3: Uh, let's just wrap with a couple of little little nuggets.

00:48:54
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan said theyre going to bring in a kicker to compete with Jake Moody, So you're you're on watch. Jed Yorke, their owner, said that they're not far apart on brock Purty contract talks.

00:49:04
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's good.

00:49:05
Speaker 5: That's that agent is working out.

00:49:06
Speaker 1: I don't want that to the last all offseason. Then some contract extension talks depending on the source or These were mostly from GM's and coaches, Derrick Henry, Terry McLaurin, Kyrin Williams of the Rams, Terry McLaurin of course with the Commanders, Henry with the Ravens.

00:49:23
Speaker 3: They all might be getting some.

00:49:26
Speaker 1: Contract extensions. I would sign you guys to contract extend if I could, well, thanks Greg, and not even take three percent. This would have been the crew last season. If you're a real NFL Daily completist, then you listen to all the shows and your interest in this sort of minutia. Originally the show was Colleen Patrick and myself, I believe, on Wednesdays, but scheduling didn't work out, and then you ended up doing Tuesday.

00:49:52
Speaker 3: But it would have been a great show.

00:49:53
Speaker 2: It would have been great. It could be still, it could still be.

00:49:58
Speaker 3: Like it is.

00:49:58
Speaker 5: Yeah it is.

00:50:00
Speaker 2: Are you rout like politicking for the schedule next year?

00:50:04
Speaker 3: No, right now, I'm not.

00:50:06
Speaker 5: I just want to have one.

00:50:07
Speaker 3: These are the things. Yes, yes, same, same, same same. It's in the titles.

00:50:12
Speaker 2: Love football, We love our jobs.

00:50:13
Speaker 3: So they have to do. You want to keep it, they have to keep it going. But Tuesday is just a natural fit for you. It is Wednesday.

00:50:20
Speaker 5: You know.

00:50:20
Speaker 3: We love having you here on Tuesday, though, Patrick, appreciate you.

00:50:23
Speaker 5: Glad to be here.

00:50:24
Speaker 1: We uh thank Jordan right rig of the yeah for joining us as well.

00:50:28
Speaker 2: I hope for armas Okay, her shoulders must be burning.

00:50:31
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's gonna have to balance that out.

00:50:32
Speaker 1: Everyone in the research department in the back to Christy Stapleton is here. Yes, we will be back on Wednesday with Dave Damaschef. Yeah, when we're when we're going over like Mulagetta for the million time.

00:50:47
Speaker 3: You know, football's pat