Club 520 - Jeff Teague & Donovan Mitchell on GOING OFF in the NBA bubble, facing Anthony Edwards & James Harden
Donovan Mitchell drops in to chat with Jeff Teague and the Club 520 squad at Adidas in Indianapolis! Mitchell tells his crazy story of getting drafted and then getting his own signature shoe with Adidas just ONE YEAR into his NBA career. Spida Mitchell shares stories about some of his insane scoring performances this season, and ridiculous battles with Jamal Murray in the bubble. And Donovan Mitchell talks about going up against Anthony Edwards and James Harden, and why his Cleveland Cavaliers have gone under the radar. Plus don't miss Jeff Teague and Mitchell relive going up against Avery Bradley's defense.
0:00 - Intro
0:50 - Donovan Mitchell's first signature shoe
2:45 - Favorite Basketball shoes
4:30 - Playing against guys wearing his kicks
8:00 - Toughest matchups in the NBA
10:00 - Jrue Holiday + Avery Bradley = Nightmares
12:10 - Going CRAZY in the bubble
13:10 - Three people he wants to wear his shoe
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All right, we back another episode of Club for twenty podcast. 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:10.559 You know what I'm saying. We had a neutral site, 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:12.000 but we still let the crib with it. We got 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.160 a special guest and a special location introduced to my 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.159 man's last my far left. I got my dog BI 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.240 should be hearing out the privileges. How you what nasty 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:20.880 cool and nasty list pod baby out the gate, got 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:23.000 my dog, young young team. What's happening with it? 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:23.319 Man? 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:24.880 I'm back home and y'all know I was a Didas 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:26.840 guy when I was in the league. So Man, back home, 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:28.800 back home with it. Got a special guest on my 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:30.920 left for me. I don't really get too excited about episodes. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.199 You know what I'm saying. Everybody's normal, But this is 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.200 a guy one of my favorite players, in my opinion, 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.279 one of the best players come out the University of Louisville. 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.440 We got Spider to die. Donin Mitchell. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.640 Appreciate you, fucking I appreciate you the Gate. Appreciate it 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.519 for the hospitality and the opportunity. You got a crazy, crazy, 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.279 crazy order story about how you even got to Adidas. Man, 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.400 please let's start there, because I know you was rocking 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.479 them at Louisville. You know what I'm saying, and then 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:55.360 tell us about how you went crazy in the Summer 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:56.920 League and they all went went together. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.480 So yeah, so I was, uh, I was supposed to 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.800 go to Charlotte. I wanted to get drafted by Charlotte. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:04.720 You know when Michael was the owner. If you go 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:06.960 to Charlotte, you know what I'm Jordan Brand, you know 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.120 what I'm saying. So I end up not going there, 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.400 get drafted by Utah. We're going through the contract negotiations. 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:13.320 I signed with Adidas. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:13.600 Cool. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.120 I played my whole first year, we went it down contest, 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:19.680 and then Adidas ripped my contract up right after that, 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.120 said we're gonna give you a new and we're gonna 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.280 give you a shoe. So that went from just being 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:25.800 on the on the roster to next thing, you know, 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:27.760 being a signature shoe within a year. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.520 So, uh, that's crazy, that's love. And you're being honest 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.240 about it because people don't understand this. You killed Summer 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.240 League to get that fact, you had to go crazy 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:36.960 the Summer League. Now, so many people have gotten a 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:38.959 shoe deal from killing in the summer So you know 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.080 how that that Vaga didn't get that I didn't killing 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.600 no summer league. No, I stayed on the bench and 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.080 od rookie, you didn't play right. So don't worry about 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.800 that obviously, Man with you be in the university, little 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:53.920 of the legend, I mean, we're gonna take it. How 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.680 is it now that they were your shoe? What was 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:57.600 you rocking in Louisville? 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:01.280 Though I was wearing the Dames, I was and Dames NonStop. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:01.600 I forgot. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.480 I think it's like the threes of the fours, like 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.559 he was. It was those there was something some low tops, 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.960 but it's come the Didas's first of all, Theda has 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.680 come a long way since that time, absolute first and foremost. 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.680 But to see them wearing my shoes, honestly, it's crazy 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.040 to me, Like, you know, it's I know, I've been 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:20.440 in the league seven years. I feel like I've been 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:21.560 in the league for a while, but it's not. I 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.040 don't feel like that far removed from from Louisville, you 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:25.720 know what I'm saying, from where it first started. So 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.360 to come here now to be watching the game seeing 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:29.560 them wear my shoes. Some of the guys on the 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.640 team calling me asked me, like yo, Like can I 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.840 get this? Can I get that? You know? That's to me, 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.800 that's just all honestly, it's surreal. You know, you grow 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:37.040 up as a kid you want that, you know what 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.240 I mean. So now that I'm here, it's a blessing 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:40.639 and not forever Charice that for sure. 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.320 I know you're getting a phone calls and let me 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:48.919 get some shoes cause the idea you too, for sure? 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.440 Yeah, what's your uh what's your favorite Adidas shoes? 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.200 Ever? Off the court? Shoes about to be these you 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.120 can wear them on in off the floor, but uh, 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.840 couldn't choose my own shoes. Yeah, we show so kind 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:03.280 of guy. I was show toes a little bit. I 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.000 got big feet though, so like you know what's ours? 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:11.720 You were fifteen? All you out of pocket? You can't? Yeah, 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:18.799 this life, I probably say those this new Jerry Jerry 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:23.720 Lenzo Fear of God collection as far he got some, 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.000 he got some, he got some ship. So I think 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:27.440 that's probably probably my favorite. 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.359 All right, So what was that moment life for you 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.120 in the creation process side to Camax and my dog 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.400 creating that first one? How was that process because you 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.560 was like finding your way in the league, is still 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.000 doing it at the same time. But how was that 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:40.120 process making the first one? 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.080 I feel like everybody's different, you know, I've talked to 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.280 different guys who have had different shoots from different brands 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.360 and how they go about it. For me, my process 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.760 is make the shoot, show me the shoot, and I 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:51.960 say yes or no, Like it's real simple, like I 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.200 ain't got I'm not the one to be like I 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.200 want the webbing on this to look like that. I 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.160 ain't want to be like, as long as long as 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.560 my ankles feel cool and I'm an, I think it 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.640 looks good, like that's fine. So you know, like I said, 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.360 for the first one, the first one was kind of 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.480 sped up because everything was so last minute. After it 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:09.080 was kind of like quick. But the once you got 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.080 the two, three, four, now you're playing a year in advance, 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.600 it became it became a whole process. It became like 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.359 we're doing three different segments of it. It's like, you know, 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.719 we're doing one in August, then we're doing one in January, 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:21.039 then we're doing one Like you know what I'm saying, 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.360 just kind of going over it, making little tweaks here 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:24.960 and there about what I like and what I don't like. 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.880 But it's a it's a process, and it's you get 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:29.240 as much as you put into it. Though, if you 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:30.480 don't want to, if you don't care, if you don't 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.320 want it, you ain't gonna put out a good product. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.520 But I notice that gratification when you look on Instagram, 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.640 we see that you kids rocking your shoe. Now I 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.320 gotta ask you how I feel with you in the 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.400 league and somebody rocking your shoe and they play against you. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:43.040 I know you got to try to. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:43.720 I would. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.680 I wouldn't be rocking your shoe. I'm playing against you, 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:47.840 but you signed me. 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:48.240 I'll rock. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:53.560 I'm playing the Big Three just unless I feel like 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:56.800 you have to you kind of you have. First of all, 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:58.080 you have to go after. You got to bust the 0:04:58.080 --> 0:04:59.440 ass you gott at least you know what I'm saying 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.520 off rip, But in the second token, I'm like, I'm 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.120 a dude. That's like man, that's love. Like I'm the same. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.760 I'm not one to be like you know how niggas 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:13.919 in the league are, like I could curse, Like you 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.480 get to a point where you so far removed from 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.080 that childhood like you know Jeff, like he was a 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.320 childhood kid dreaming about being on this stage, you know, 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.680 so I'll never lose that aspect of it too. So like, yeah, 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.080 I want to come at you, I want to drop forty, 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.400 but the same token, it's like the fact that you're 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.600 wearing my shoes. I grew up trying to be like this, 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.120 trying to be Donovan Mitchell, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.479 So I always forever cherish that, and I always I 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.960 show I appreciate it. But you know, there are few 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.159 guys out there always my former teammates always wear my 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.920 shoes like they always ask me. So I appreciate them, 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.440 but you know, I definitely have to try to give 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:44.279 them forty at least. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.039 Oh yeah, you gotta gotta kill him one time. Let 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:47.120 them know to this, and then you can come on 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:48.720 Team down, a team done. You know what I'm saying. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:50.599 That's a new line popping out. You know what I'm saying. 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:52.520 How that feel? And now you move you know you 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.880 shoe six. Now you got the own brand under shoe six. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:57.760 It's going crazy. 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.719 So we honestly, man, like I said said, I'm gonna 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.800 keep repeating myself, but this it's just crazy to me, 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:04.680 you know what I mean? That's it never feels real 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.760 when I do these interviews, I do these events, I 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.520 see my shoe, I see people talking to me about it, 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.599 like it's one thing I never forget. But now you 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.159 become a you become your own boss in the sense 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.080 like you become like a cool like you know, you 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.240 dictating like all, bet I want this, I want that. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:18.599 I wanted to look like this. This is what people 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.440 are saying. But the biggest thing, like I said to you, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.320 is how you get what you put into it? You 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.400 know what I mean. So I've called guys, I've asked 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.280 younger kids, like making you stay tapped in with a 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.720 younger generation absolutely, because honestly they would drive all the 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.120 sales like we ain't. We ain't buying whose shoes? No more? 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:33.960 We old? Like you know what I'm saying, like you babies, 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.880 the kids, kids and their parents, I'm still tap thing. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.120 I mean, I was like, you ain't have to buy 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:43.600 I got, you. 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:45.680 Know, shame this plug now to say you know what 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:46.440 I'm saying. 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.400 But yeah, man, so it's dope for sure. How is 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:50.760 it to tap me? I know you got to collap 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.960 with the HBCU team. You know, I'm saying shot like 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:55.760 that's crazy, Like it is not like a part of 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.200 that process of how is it just to see like, 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.360 you know what I'm saying, black excellence representing you and 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:00.200 you help prepare That's what. 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:00.760 That's the same. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.000 You know, you never forget where you came from, you 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:04.680 know what I'm saying, Like, that's that's my biggest thing. 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.839 You know, I didn't go to HPCU, but you know 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.400 there's always love there, you know what I mean to 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.720 see you see one of us continuing to do what 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:12.560 we do, especially not just on the floor, but in 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.360 the community, you know what I'm saying. And I think 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.520 that's one of my my biggest things in understanding that 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.520 we're still trying to find ways and the league's done 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:19.720 a good job with the PA, We've done a good 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.040 job of putting them on. It all starts showing case 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.600 in the games, but you know, continuing to fund and 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.120 continue to put money into these hpcus and you know 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.800 with shoes, with you know, equipment, with gear like you know, 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.679 that's that's really that's really what that's where it starts. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:34.840 You know, that's the least I feel like that's the 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:36.400 least we can do as athletes, Like we got that 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.400 free like cool, I'm gonna least do that for y'all. 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.040 Now we can do go and build upon that. So 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.320 now that I'm able to do that with Hpcus Man, 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:43.960 I love being able to do it. I love to 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.239 seeing the faces on kids that don't that's just happy 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:47.640 with one pair of shoe, Like you know what I'm saying, 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.440 Like that to me is is dope. But I want 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.760 to continue to build, you know, through hpcus with my 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.640 shoe and my my stuff. And I'm glad that we 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:56.400 were able to do that. 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.720 And that's the thing you said, like being remember who 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.120 you are, Like we were the kid going to That's 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:01.880 why Cams dogt We was geek to go to whoever 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.000 Cam got the T shirt, if you got some shoes, 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.840 it was super lig so for you to be able 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.480 to get that moment to a lot of different kids, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.120 like it don't even matter what happens after that, They're 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:10.640 gonna remember that for the rest of their life. 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.760 Show What's show? What's your favorite Adidas matchup? Like in 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.720 the league? What other opposal player you look at? I 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.400 got to sign with I gotta. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:24.000 Say and bring it every night and not dog Man 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.320 like I think and sow guy, like he bring the 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.240 best out of you, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.080 he talked, he talks and all that, but like as 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.439 a competitor, like that's what you want, Like you want 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.840 to go against you know, you know a guy like him, 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:37.560 you know what I mean. So I'll say he's probably 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.120 number one for show just because of the energy he brings. 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.400 Is James close to James up there? 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:42.679 For sure? 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.360 I been. I played James twice in the playoffs two 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:46.760 years in a row, so I feel like I played 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.199 him a bunch. We done lost twice too, But. 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.079 I remember y'all was going behind him. I called him 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.560 about that, bro, that ain't it? 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.439 I forgot you had, Quinn, That ain't it? Bro? That 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:04.560 that's what that one, that one that we did we needed? 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.559 Uh we did? You've seen me lost for one? 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.760 I said that one. 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:10.800 That one is. I would say James up there too, 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.040 for sure. But I think James and are definitely the 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.040 two too. Yeah, definitely dang for sure. 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.280 And what's crazy now, Like y'all killing right now, y'all 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.960 going crazy absolutely right now under the radar, which is 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.520 crazyest on the radar, but shopping going crazy large part 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:25.760 because obviously you've been doing your name. 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.480 Man. How you feeling about the season, Man. 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.240 I'm excited. I think a lot of it under the 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:30.880 radar has to do with how we you know, we 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:32.520 didn't really do shit in the playoffs last year, you 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:33.720 know what I mean? You know how that go, Like 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:35.719 we didn't handle business, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.280 we got we got embarrassed, to be honest with you, you 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:39.520 know what I mean. So that kind of carries with 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.760 you into that next year until you do something about it. 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.959 So shit, we can go eighty two and O. I 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.760 don't think we get the credit we deserve just because 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.040 that's just all that matters in this is the playoffs, 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.360 you know what I'm saying. So for us not getting 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:51.960 too hyped, like understanding like this is what we do, 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.360 that's what we expect of ourselves. It's like understanding we're 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.520 trying to build like yes, it's all star break, you 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.040 know what I mean. It's great, like we're playing, well, 0:09:58.040 --> 0:09:59.800 we're playing, and we should be happier for that success. 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.240 But the same token, we're not surprised at what we do, 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.720 like continue to build upon that. Soit then April May 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:08.000 June comes around you know, un handle business for sure. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:09.920 Now it's a five twin should be regressive. Planning to 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.000 ask you a couple of questions how we would Obviously 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:13.120 you know what I'm saying. You came in the league 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.240 going crazy, But who was that first match show? Were 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:16.920 just like, damn, like this is how they do this 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:18.640 every single night in the league. Like maybe not even 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.400 a marquete name, but at one party he was like, oh, 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:21.800 I didn't even know he was like this. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:32.160 Man, I'd probably say Drew Holiday. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:32.840 Damn. 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.320 They mentioned a lot through Holiday for the show. I 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.120 was just like, and I never forget my assistant coach 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.719 at the time, Johnny Bryant. He was like and lace 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.600 him up like it's motherfucker like he don't play And 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:47.080 I'm like, all right, man, whatever, I had forty the 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:48.760 first time he played them, So I'm thinking that's how 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.840 it's supposed to be. Like digging this sweet he going 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:52.600 under on screens, you know what I mean. They don't 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.079 know what the you know what I'm saying. And after that, 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:59.319 I think we play in New Orleans, just a New Orleans. 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.559 You know who else is up there too? Aby Bradley 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:04.199 when he was in. 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.520 Uh Detroit, I'm still having nightmare. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:07.920 Who are you taking though? 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.280 Better defender? Real ship? 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.320 Who you who you got depends on what I'm trying 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:17.120 to what I'm trying to guard your buckets. I ain't 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.920 gonna lie. It's a true story. I probably every every 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.480 retire right, Yeah, he's done. Alright, so I can say this. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.280 We're playing in Detroit and it's probably a film on 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:27.640 this too. I'm the point guard at the time. I 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.280 don't know how to play it. My ball handling really 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.800 ain't like that. I had to stop bringing the ball 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.600 up the court because he was on the floor understop. 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.000 I don't take that ever. I've never I've never felt 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:38.439 like that with anybody else in the league. So I 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.440 got to get it to Avery, probably because he got 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.360 that saying because once you get the half court, like 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:44.880 you know, the half court line here, get you you 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.160 just you ain't going nowhere. Like he quick. He's strong, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.079 but I would say probably every Bradley for sure. 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:50.360 What's crazy is him? 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.440 Jordan Crawford and other people said he was like, He's like, 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.360 it don't matter how good you dribble, it don't turn 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:56.240 you in every possession. 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:57.720 And I ain't have the confidence in my handle like 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.720 this my first year in the league. It's my handle, 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.839 Like I'm like, I'm used to coming off screens, coming 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:03.640 out different things, but I'm not really like if you 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.120 picked me up full court at this time, it's like, 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:06.600 oh shit, like I don't really know what I'm doing 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:10.080 doing like this looking at you like yeah he was. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.600 He wouldn't do that now though, you know what it 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:12.959 is now. 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:16.000 I always wanted to ask you about your bubble moment, 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.640 like I know we don't got that much time, but 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.599 but you did. In the bubble, you and Murray was 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.679 going back and forth. So that that was crazy. 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.960 No, that was that for me was really the emergence 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.960 of myself, like taking that step, you know what I mean, 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:29.640 Like I had a great rookie year in the playoffs, 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.079 I would be okay, see whatever, like all that happened 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.520 then the second year whatever. But that year for me, 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.720 like yes, scoring outbursts and all that that was It 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.280 was a big part of that. But like it was 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.760 really where I felt in control of myself, like all right, cool, 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.960 now I'm seeing situations. I understand the situation. I'm understanding 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.120 the blitz. You know, I had fifty seven game one, 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:50.959 but people don't know. I only had like twenty in 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:52.800 game two we won by thirty, but they were like, 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.360 all right, fuck it, he not scoring. And for me 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.440 like to be able to make that adjustment from game 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:58.880 one in the game too and be like, all right, bet, 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.280 I don't need to score. I can get it off. 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.400 And then we went by thirty. The ultimately we lose. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.720 We lose a series, but like that for me really 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.160 unlocked a lot of shit for me mentally. But it game, 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.480 it honestly came to a point where mall was scored. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:11.920 I'd be like, I bet, I gotta score, like it 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.079 became one of one and I can't see each other 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:15.959 out and like everybody else had to figure it out, 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:17.439 like you score, I'm scoring. 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.640 I love how you can just say I had fifty seven, 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:27.240 like something like, yeah, your over there, fifty seven. 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.360 Before we get up out of here, I gotta ask you, 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.840 if you can have three people wear your shoe. 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.080 Who the three people be? It could be anybody. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:43.640 Ever like in life, hear it, Michael Jordan, m Roco, 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.720 three Barack Obama, Okay, I get his address in the 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.760 old office. If you could wear them an old office show, 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.600 I probably say Jay Z m hmm. That's the fire 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.760 three three. I swear I thought you about to say 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:05.400 me what I'm saying. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.080 The wrong day. But on that we're gonna get ab 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.040 out of here. Don appreciate you and you know what 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.240 I'm saying ahead. Hey, that's our ad man right there, 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.280 said tell them about people that need to cop them. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.280 Man, cop them everywhere. Man, this is damn the hor 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.360 I might get back on the court. I'm about at 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:29.280 d M about this. No, for sure, we appreciate you 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.400 coming on the show man for sure. Thank you good people. 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:34.880 This shouts at Don Mitchell Club five twenty. 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:36.240 Thank you, appreciate y'all.