Mike Vrabel's Thoughts On The DeAndre Hopkins Signing + His Growth As A Head Coach

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Speaker 1: Ladies, gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Ust with the Boys. This is episode two thirty two. A lot of stuff happened over the weekend, obviously the Mic Variable podcast it is. It's fucking electric man, that dude. It's such a unique relationship that Will and I have with this man, and you definitely see it all unfold, the good times, the awkward times, the fun times, the serious times.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I just let him in a little glimpse.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, we had the the uh Rabel podcast. It literally just happened like six seconds, like six seconds ago, and I think it's a hilarious pod where we're like kind of bouncing all over the place, like no question starts off, awkward, starts off awkward, feel a little uncomfortable because you know, we like legit don't even know how to start it, because Rabel does have multiple personalities when it comes to me and will. At one moment he's your best friend. The next moment he's like, there's no questioning you verbally question.

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Speaker 3: In my mind that I felt like he wanted to fight me at one point in the spot when he was talking, Yes, that's the Ohio on him though, He's like, yeah, I think he's starting to get serious.

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Speaker 2: He fucking one of those I thought you were getting to No, I had that.

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Speaker 3: Once I saw the look in his eye. I was like, Okay, let's come. It is a small quarter. He's got a long reach, Like, got to figure out my distance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but all's fair in love and warly. I think you'd handle that.

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Speaker 3: The problem would be very would swing first, because I'm thinking in my head, like, what am I gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Fucking just try to go out your rads right now? Yeah? Yeah, that would you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: And then I feel like if he's swinging first, I'm I'm I'm at a disadvantage because he's got reach. Like you've seen him. You've seen him trying to mess around at practice with guys long arm. Mother, it's a it's a it's a healthy respect.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there. I was like, fuck, d he's take it easy. We're jokes.

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Speaker 1: Got to get in the body real quick. Can you handle your business? But it's about getting to the body right right into the body, getting to the ground fast.

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Speaker 2: But I really truly enjoyed that podcast through and through. Yeah, I know, in the beginning it's hilarious.

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Speaker 3: I can't even like remember the beginning, but yes, I was feeling the same vibe. Like when he sat down, I'm like, you know, where do we kind of where do we start off on this?

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Speaker 1: And then there was like ten fifteen minutes of us just peppering him with serious questions and he's like, when the fuck did you guys get serious?

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Speaker 2: Like when did that happen? I was like, all right, he's not out of respect.

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Speaker 1: It is because there's a lot of news so running the Titans right now that people want to get into.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Verve is somebody who you know, we feel like we have the relationship and the rapport with him to where he'll answer those questions. So you kind of I'm thinking of myself like it's good to ask those questions. So I feel like he'll give us more than what he would you know, anybody else he's talking to.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, man, sitting there in the most fucking alpha posture of all time, just he was laid out all over the couch at the table, was getting cozy on this dus.

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Speaker 2: He making himself at home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the best man, He's it's it's just funny how the relationship is built like over time. Like it's like I was excited to talk about some of the old stories, but even as I was trying to deliver them and I'm thinking about them, that's when the nurse are kicking in, like, hey, have you.

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Speaker 2: Seen some of the Kevin Byern clips? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like because it was a body session that yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome. Man.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we need to get to this pod asa people. Let's hit some tier talk and we're not tiar talk. Shout out for shoutout Pepe. Those are good that yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do shout out for shoutout boys in the back?

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Speaker 2: Do we have any shoutouts backs? Hang on?

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Speaker 4: What'd you guys think of the pod epic? As a Titans fan, it's so fun to be around Rabel. He's we were just talking about it, like, probably the coolest and best coach in the NFL. He's my favorite Titans coach ever, second being Jeff Fisher, but Rabel is all time. If you're a Titans fan, you're gonna absolutely love this episode.

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Speaker 2: M JP.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you know me, man, I heard Titans fan love. Rabel was a big Patriots fan during his time. There was a Texans fan when he was with the Texans, so it's been It was cool.

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Speaker 2: Great, great football talk.

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Speaker 5: It was cool to see y'all's dynamic because we always hear about it via group chat, and we got to see the group chat come to life, which was dope.

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Speaker 3: What'd you guys think of the dynamic the whole time? Could you feel? Definitely at the beginning, there's at the beginning. There was throughout the Potter you feeling like, you know, you can tell there's a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there talking to her and I'm like, I was nervous the beginning one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: It was like, oh my gosh, because right before the Potter, for you guy here, Will is like, y'all know I mean when rape shows up and going to show up asap and everything, Yeah, and then it just folds out in real time.

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Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, we said something, laughed and laughed about it. And then I was like, but you guys also know me, like right when rape shows up, I'm about to show up.

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Speaker 2: I did. It was it was nerve wracking.

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Speaker 1: Like there was a point where we started talking about twenty eighteen, how Braves was an asshole, and then you looked at Braves goes either his words not mine, I'm thinking, oh fuck.

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Speaker 2: Am I speaking out a turn, like literally in my in my own head.

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Speaker 3: Once you say you said like unfair, I think it's the word you said, like there are some times where you were unfair.

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Speaker 2: And then that's when I looked over raising like that those are his words. Just let your boy out the hang dude.

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Speaker 1: But hey, but it ended up it was wasn't exactly how are our group chats go with him? Yeah, it's just awkward that it's fun and it can get serious at times.

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Speaker 3: It was, yeah, oh we all know we're clearly joking. Let's continue to have fun and banter back and forth. Oh wait a minute, is something getting serious in here? Oh wait a minute. I don't know if I want to respond to this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, are we cool?

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Speaker 1: I can't just walk away, can't just leave the chap with your phone down, get told like stop being fucking sensitive.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: No doubt, dude, no fucking doubt. But yeah, let's hit the shout out no free shout out in pet peep.

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Speaker 2: For the week JP shout out, No Free shout out, Oh do you not have one? Oh, ma'am ah.

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Speaker 5: My shout out, no free shout out goes to it happens in the spring, in the summer probably more so, actually happens.

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Speaker 2: All ye round.

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Speaker 5: But my shout out, no free shoutout goes to a good hard sneeze when you, like truly just feel that it's from the chest. It just feels cleared out. You feel like God, I needed that. So that's my shout out. No free shout out.

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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, oh, mine goes along with our activity from last night. But shout out, no free shout out to free concert tickets.

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Speaker 2: Damn it is.

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Speaker 4: It's solely once you get in the venue, you're like, Okay, I didn't spend any money on tickets, so I can spend as much as I want to on some beers or like a merch item whatever. And on Friday night I went to a Sinda amphitheater with some friends for Young the Giant, And I don't even really care for the band that much, Like they're good objectively, but they're not in my daily rotation.

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Speaker 2: And I thought I was gonna get a free ticket.

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Speaker 4: And didn't, and I ended up paying eighty dollars to go to this show that I really didn't care to be at. So getting the free ticket to Blink was it. I felt like it leveled it out. I like, spend like forty dollars and forty dollars. Yeah, yeah, shout out to free concert tickets And.

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Speaker 1: Obviously that was gonna be my shout out as well, but I'll change my shout out, but I just want to add on to your shout out, Like I want to give.

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Speaker 2: A shout out to the Predators.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because Brandon, who works with the Predators, who works with their media group, I reached out to him about possibly purchasing a sweet four the event. Hit me up on Wednesday and he's like, hey, do you still need a Sweet? And I was like yeah, He's like called me. I called him and he goes, hey, I went up the.

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Speaker 2: Chain of command.

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Speaker 1: Petitors want to thank you for everything you've done for us, and we're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Give you this sweet for free.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that was like the coolest fuck, Like it was just awesome, like going to see Blank obviously my favorite band of all time and all that. I was like very very grateful for that. So shout out the national Petators as well the whole organization.

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Speaker 2: They're incredible. So that's my add on to.

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Speaker 6: Jacks my shoutout nor free shadowt this week. It's pretty simple just getting a new hair just a fresh haircut. Just feel like a new person. You feel like you got a little bit of your swagger back. You just feel more confident in yourself. Shutout fresh haircuts. God Garrett is like the number one culprit of that nice one. Mitch Willie my shoutowt no free shoudout goes to picking a good bugger, go on, picking a good booger. I feel like.

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Speaker 3: If this first, when people first absorb that, it's kind of like, oh shit. But also I think we all have to understand at this point that literally one hundred percent of people pick their nose on the slide or they get caught. But there's nothing like picking a good burger. Like when you got there's different book, there's different boogers. Now when you got them dry boys, like right at the top he end, you can just kind of get the thumb out with it. There's ones that kind of hang back a little bit and you got a nice it's got a nice little lag.

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Speaker 2: When you get a pulled down.

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Speaker 3: It kind of just like weirdly comes out deep from the nostril and you're like, yeah, that might be a pr But then there are some downsides, like when you get the ones that are kind of just running, they're all around your nose and you feel like you just can't It's like a never ending trying to get it out.

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Speaker 2: That sucks.

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Speaker 1: But all in all, I've always been a massive uh fan of nose picking.

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Speaker 2: So my shot, I don't know for shot is going to go to picking a good booger. I think you open a lot of people's eyes with that one in a positive way, In.

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Speaker 1: A positive way, okay, because you know, picking a booger's a fau paul.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's a there's it's like a massive closet fan base, right and you just kind of need that one, Like yo, fucking picking boogers?

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Speaker 2: Is we all do?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: Oh him too? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 1: My shout out, no free shout out is gonna go to the nod you get from another man as you walk by on the sidewalk. Just everything's fucking understood. You don't even know him, you've never spoken to him in your entire life. But you see him and you, guys just give the head up or the head down and you just keep going about your business. But every there was a whole conversation there, a whole fucking car a lot without saying anything at all exactly.

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Speaker 7: I've actually thought about that recently, like the relationships you have with people without knowing their name, what they do, like anything about them, but you see them, like you know, throughout the week, whether it's the gym, coffee shop, whatever, but you have that kind of that nod of just like, yeah, what's up, bro.

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Speaker 2: What's up? You?

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, if you've seen him a couple of times, or for me, I'm a big like, hey, how's it going guy? Sometimes you're just walking maybe I'm walking the dogs and keep up my hand out like this and I look at a guy and he fucking looks up at me and we catch eyes. We're both one of those. It's like, brother, you have a fantastic fucking day. Like what a deal that is. So that's why that's my shadow for shadows, solid, Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it funny too?

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Speaker 3: On the booger thing that hey have?

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Speaker 2: Have you have any of y'all ever seen me pick my nose? You have do what? Oh jpce used that one before? Oh ct man chucking up, continue though on your thought when you put your But my thought.

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Speaker 3: Was gonna be like, okay, say you have seen me, But I think it's funny too, Like I've never really seen you guys do it, but we all just know that we all do it in that wild.

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Speaker 2: Don't. I don't. I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: What Oh like, no, you can't have this.

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Speaker 2: I mean you're cleaning yourself as it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Now I think when there's one like right where the bone is and it's right up there, like almost blocking like airway and you can't get out there, and you just scoop that thing out.

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Speaker 2: Fly out that little that little hang back in the shower, you're like essentially washing your hands.

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Speaker 1: I feel like already, no, but it doesn't get that like picking picking your nose is low key cut in a very minimal way and like a Q tip in your ear, Like you get that ship done, you're like, oh fuck, like that my day got better. I felt something good about that. In the shower, it's like you're just you're just taking care of business. You're kidding yourself.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you feeling up there and then you I don't know about you guys, but I thinking myself, let me stop. I'm gonna take some private I'm gonna get in some some peace and quiet.

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Speaker 2: Wore I get this boy out, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not this in one you just picking yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's something in there. There's something in there. I want to take my time with this one because I don't want it to be rushed. One that I love because I I don't know if you guys get this, but I'm like right at the base in the middle. Sometimes it'll get a little raw, like you do that and like it kind of scabs up a little bit. I get that. Change the seasons. Yeah, and I've had that recently for like two weeks. It's been bugging the fuck I mean by right nostril. But it'll get like backed up in here and I'll find my private space, start digging around, and you kind of feel it like gathering together.

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Speaker 3: Fill the edge of the scab kind of comes where you're like you kind of want to peel it and feel yeah yeah, but but if you start to rip it a little bit, you're like, oh, fuck, yeah, now.

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Speaker 2: I'm in pain.

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Speaker 1: You got you kind of get the boys all congregating together in one unit, and then you give it the and that fucking explosion that comes out.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know about the explosion part. Really never done that one. Oh, it's just a big booger. Home collect them all and then is that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like kind of in there and you're like, you go in for one because you know one's there, but he's got a couple of buddies with them to know about. You walked into a room you thought it was one individual, it's actually a multiple individuals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bad thing for me, and.

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Speaker 1: I can get them kind of together kind of you know, tie them up, and then fucking send them out.

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Speaker 2: That to me is like a refreshing feeling. What scares me when I send them out.

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Speaker 3: What scares me when I send them out is that I'm not going to get to see him, Like it might not hit my when I'm like I hit a snot rock and I'm like, damn, I kind of wanted to see the Oh you want to see I want to see the trophy.

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Speaker 5: One of my number one lives in life is when I just get a random bloody nose. Like everybody's like, damn, man, how's you got a bloody nose? I'm like, yeah, I don't know how that happened. Massive buggers with me. You always gotta lie about it.

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Speaker 2: You always gotta lie, especially when you're young too. I feel like you just dig in that nose, you just start bleeding. You're like, oh, what's going on? You're like shoving fucking It's like the altitude or something in South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck happens. It's being like a kid, like not to pivot. But like when you're younger, like farting, like getting a good fart out, like a lot of people will be like, yo, don't don't do that around here. And then as you get older, like you especially like just farting all the time, Like you get a good fart out and kind of like your stomachs areting a little bit, like is this a ship?

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Speaker 2: Is this not a ship?

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Speaker 1: And then you let out a big fart. You feel so much better. That's a fucking book. Parts are awesome. Yeah, those are carry farts. What a pod pet peeve jip? Do you have a pet peeve of the week peeve of the week.

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Speaker 5: My peeve of the week is, oh, you know, like I guess there's two seats to the toilet, like the full cover and then the one you sit on. So it's the second one that you sit on when you're pooping. If when you lift it up to go pete and it doesn't stay up and it just continuously falls down, it makes me so mad.

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Speaker 2: It's just that one in there's got it. No, no, it doesn't have it.

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Speaker 3: It stops, but some like it has like a little bit of lean forward and but you know you can trust it, you know you can count on it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But I think what bugs me the most is that like people live in those houses and they use that every single day and just like let that fly.

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Speaker 2: And think the same thought probably every time.

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Speaker 5: It's like, yo, it takes five seconds to fix this now now field in the wrath of the stream everywhere, clean it up later my ass No, yes, yeah, yeah, it will happen to me probably, and I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I got one.

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Speaker 4: This might be our first ever seasonal pet beeve. So in the spring and fall.

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Speaker 2: I do not abide by this rule.

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Speaker 4: But in the summer and probably mostly the winter, my pet peeve is people who choose to sit outside at restaurants in the middle of summer.

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Speaker 2: I'm a sweater.

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Speaker 4: I just sweat profusely, especially when I'm outside in Nashville it's like ninety degrees and someone who will make the decision to sit outside in the sun for an hour and a half while you eat. I might be alone on this one, but I remember when we were in Vegas and me, you and JP wait and got breakfast at that spot, and they were kind of like pushing us. They're like, if you want to sit outside, like it'll be quicker, and we're like, nah, I will, We'll wait, and then they're like, all right, come this way.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just when it's too hot outside, I want to ac I want to be able to enjoy my food. I don't want to walk out with back sweat and like, you know, pay stains. But when now fall weather comes around and it's a nice Chris seventy, yeah, get me outside the scenery.

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Speaker 2: I love question. So yeah, that's my pet peeve.

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Speaker 6: You're not alone, Jack, my pet peeve of the week. It's something that I noticed last night, and it's happens a lot when you're out like at like some sort of event. It's the people that are just non stop taking videos that they're never gonna watch again. Like you can take like one or two of like maybe like your favorite songs, but like you shouldn't be recording the entire show because you're never going to watch it again. Like live in the moment, put your phone down, have some fun, like enjoy the people around you, enjoy the scenery and everything. Like you're not gonna fucking watch the video of the concert through the phone again.

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Speaker 2: That is no lie. That is no lie. It's zero photos. Last night, you guys saw the text and you were and you probably had the best time ever. I did it.

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Speaker 1: Except for that one girl. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, pat. People of the week is women that I'd get too drunk and to hit on you in front of your wife and steal your ship.

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Speaker 2: That's so that's a that's an easy pet peeve. What's that? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Uh my pet peeve is gonna go along with the food thing. I can't stand when like if you're on a date and you're ordering appetizer and the appetizer's uneven amounts of whatever. It is so like we got dumplings recently and there was five. It's like who's getting third dumpling? And so you kind of wait and you play like the no you got it, no you got it, back and forth, and eventually you're like, yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, just give us six or four? Right? The quality? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: With that, we were at a sushi spot me, JP and Will in New York, and I feel like that happened every single role and it was like in my head, I'm like I want this fucking food. But I'm like, I go ahead, Will, And then I knew we'll got that one. I was like a right, go ahead, Jp. I'm like I know I'm getting next one, and I'm just hoping it's the best one.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, selfishly, I gave up that last real quick. So y'all got it. That one pissed me off.

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Speaker 1: Dude, See, your chin's gross as fuck, just overpriced, really just a booger, that's all that is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do yours. I'm still thinking about mine.

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Speaker 1: My pet peeve of the week is gonna be when you pull your gym shorts out of the dryer and your draw string is tucked inside the fucking waist span, not where it's like half an inch but like three four inches away, and you're like, dude, I gotta fucking work to get this ship. You're doing this the whole way across until you finally inch worm that motherfucker across so you can get that thing out, and then you got to pull it and then you have to re stretch it, and then sometimes you get the two four where the motherfucker goes back in. Oh, you pull the draw string out and then you go to in. Yeah, and then it slides back in just it doesn't even have to. Then it goes in just a little bit where you know, it's kind of easy, baby, bro, I just fucking did this with you, Like, why are we doing this again?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Hoodies too, yes, hoodie too broad about that? Oh one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah one super long? The other one's on your fucking top of your head and you're like, dude, what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Because shorts, I feel like you get some sometimes not favorable material, but you know, like when it has like, uh, that little plastic tip to where you can kind of grab it as you're like guided through on the hoodie when you're messing with like one hundred percent cotton or something like that, I feel like you the hoodie so much fucking takes so much more time, and it just pisses you off because I started like tying my tying my hood oh for real, before I put in the washer.

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Speaker 2: That's smart. That's like, that's head that way, that move.

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Speaker 1: That's you've been in the game for a while and you figure that out in your own like I I'm kidding that get.

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Speaker 2: Tired of being sick and tired.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, do you know what that uh plastic piece on the end of the shoelace or your drawstrings called m M.

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Speaker 2: An ugly?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I had to look it up to make sure I said it right, but an ag lit it's always a fun little shit educational pod.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that. My pet peeve is when that green text pops up in a group chat and you got that.

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Speaker 1: One fucking douchebag of a friend who has an Android Google phone.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what they're called. I don't even know what the other phones are called. But when it's not an iPhone, it's not I message, just not light blue. When that green pops up, dude, it's like, I don't know, it's like.

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Speaker 2: When you know, yeah, you know what I'm fucking saying yeah amen, and.

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Speaker 1: Then a video is sent to the group or a picture that shit comes in this big yeah, I can't even.

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Speaker 3: Or when you know somebody likes it, and then it says like Taylor Lawan liked this message, and I'm thinking, like, Taylor's got an iPhone.

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Speaker 2: I know it ain't him. Yeah, but it's the green text.

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Speaker 3: Specially when that green text pops up in a group chat, You're just thinking, who's the motherfucker that wants to ruin the day today?

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Speaker 2: They just gotta you just leave them out and tell them later. Yeah, it is one of those deals. Man. Man, the green text messages just off. Yeah, it's it's it kills all the vibes.

00:22:21
Speaker 1: That being said, let's get to this my favorable podcast. How long he's dragon, No, I'm just I gotta.

00:22:28
Speaker 2: I'm hungry. This is more meant for a percent hungry. I feel him a couple of times. It's like coming to a dad. He's like, what's next. He's just like, fuck, I don't know. He loved that pod. Yeah, just tell stories, are.

00:22:45
Speaker 3: You like, try and work on like you're trying to say something that you're gonna get, like the response.

00:22:49
Speaker 2: Or wanting out of him. Yeah, I can.

00:22:51
Speaker 3: I was already thinking about uh when I was talking about bitching about the trash time going in for the Bills game, and he's just kind of like looking at me like your magic playing.

00:22:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know that's what I was talking. Nobody wants to do that. Yeah, nobody wants to.

00:23:05
Speaker 1: But I thought he I thought he was for sure going to react with the Belichick thing. I thought we were gonna get him.

00:23:10
Speaker 3: I know, I know because my next thing, like when he started to he started to say something about I was gonna make so you know, you know what the nickname is because somebody did say that or they or it was talked about about him, and then somebody asked him about it at an interview like the next week.

00:23:23
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that a whole lot. I liked that you brought it up because I want to see how he handled it. He haled it well.

00:23:28
Speaker 3: He handled it the unfortunately, like the best way you can, like being like I didn't even know.

00:23:33
Speaker 2: Knew about that. Yeah, and Fray b hype. Dude.

00:23:35
Speaker 3: If like, if I was a head coach and I just beat you at even some of your own games, I'd be on the sideline like hype as fuck.

00:23:42
Speaker 2: I'm him. You'd be like my home, Yeah, I'm him.

00:23:45
Speaker 1: Shake that hand out of the game, just like yeah, motherfuckers. Raybel talked ship dude heavy in games. I remember being out there and the player hasn't even started yet. I could hear Rabel talking shit to a dB or a linebacker on the other team, like he's that's him. So but it was really enjoyable that more. We gotta get him on again. Yeah, yeah, you think he's gonna come on during the bye week. No, I don't, but he did say he would. Yeah, and so we'll send him a fine one.

00:24:14
Speaker 2: The good thing is he came late, so we have that over his head just for some negotiat. Don't have to pay him anymore.

00:24:23
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00:25:49
Speaker 2: I laid out last time.

00:25:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were real comfortable last time, but you're doing us a big favor too, coming on here. You know, one of our being a big guest early in the pod.

00:26:00
Speaker 2: Pretty much put you guys on the map, you think so.

00:26:02
Speaker 1: I would say, Delaney put us on the map, and then Jalen Ramsey put us on.

00:26:06
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00:26:28
Speaker 1: I'm going to Canada August fourth. I'll be there until September tenth, and so we're going. We have a couple of stops for training camp. One thing in Boston, so we're going. I think we're going to Raiders and Chargers.

00:26:39
Speaker 2: What do you get in Boston? The Barstool Awards Always we're up for an award right now? What are you guys up best newcomer who knows man? I think maybe the most pod? Yeah, best average pod. I know what you're up for. You know, we really don't I know. We know we're presenting an award, but we're also up for an award. What are you presenting? We don't know. We don't know anything of how things roll. Yeah, it's not planned out. Uh no, you don't have a hot script. No, you know how it is. You just go off the cuff, dude from the hip. Baby's getting big? She is, isn't she funny? This is exactly how I thought this pot would start, didn't she?

00:27:15
Speaker 1: Our relationship with you is so unique and Will and I would talk about it all the time because you do a great job of being a head coach and then pivoting you want and then being a boy.

00:27:26
Speaker 2: What's the best flave? M guess it's better warm. It's room tamp room tamp goes down better that way.

00:27:42
Speaker 1: I'm saying that this is exactly how the pot I thought the pot would go. Like at the beginning of this pot, just like getting into the whole thing. Because rape, like we've talked about this pot before, twenty eighteen rapes and twenty twenty three rapes are two totally different rapes, a little more rough around the edges. At first, trying to trying to implement a culture. So at first bullets for there is a bunch of smoke out there. We're just trying to figure out who the new guy is around here, and he's been headed on a switch on a swivel and so and so you're thinking, Okay, this coach is an asshole.

00:28:09
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how you're going about and then but like, no worries.

00:28:13
Speaker 1: Now as the relationship grew, it's like you do a good job of doing this gota hey, you like in out like you're chirping, and then you're being a boy and then it's yelling.

00:28:25
Speaker 2: It is a tough place to navigate, is that? Is that from this perspective of being a head coach and having played and having kids that are twenty three, twenty one, I mean it's like, what's enough, what's not enough? Still got you know? I think the one thing that I've tried to do is make connections but still hold guys accountable, however that may be.

00:28:49
Speaker 1: Did you find that difficult when you first started, like when you're at Ohio State first?

00:28:53
Speaker 2: Right?

00:28:53
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:28:53
Speaker 2: Different? I mean different in college. I mean it's it's much different, But I don't think I coached any differently. It college that I did in Houston or here. I think it's just grows, just like your Guys' podcast has grown. There's more responsibility, there's more appearances, there's more that you do, the higher up that you go.

00:29:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously you're you become a head coach when you came to the Tides. Like, what do you feel like you've learned the most since that first year?

00:29:20
Speaker 2: Uh, that you can plan for a lot of things, but there's some things that you can't plan for. There's always going to be distractions. There are always going to be things. Just being flexible, being willing to say, hey, you're going to have to move away from your script, you know. I think some of our best practices were the ones where we just went out there and we put the ball down, said call it first and ten, second and three, third and eight whatever it is. Now we're down the red zone or it's fourth down. I mean those are where you you know, that's where the game's played. So I think realistically, it's just being being able to adjust and be flexible. With that comes awareness.

00:30:00
Speaker 3: Do you feel like there are moments or situations in that first year that brought that awareness up?

00:30:03
Speaker 2: That's like I got to do it a little bit differently. The next time. This happens. I mean, I think that that happens the other year, in the first year, the second year. That you know, every year, you're always trying to learn. You're trying to figure out what's best for the team. You know, what's good for practice, what's good for certain player. Veteran guy, young guy. I mean, I don't think you ever have any the answers. You try to hire a staff, you try to make changes, and you know, try to get everything perfect and then then go out and practice. But I don't know if there was any like one moment. I mean, hell, our first game, it was an eight hour game in Miami, two two hour rain delays. That didn't cover that in the in the coaching manual. So we what member with Tuzak and and Akers were going up on the third deck to buy like many pizzas. Really guys were starving. You went night rule went night nights. Remember that night night out. I was out there.

00:31:04
Speaker 1: These men had on a swim was not on a swift there, but was so you saw me.

00:31:08
Speaker 2: I was finishing the ball. Yeah, yeah, said that was the blindside. That was when they put the blind side block in. Yeah. I think the next year is when they implemented the rule. I think they implemented after the game. The game, we won't do that anymore.

00:31:25
Speaker 1: That was a wild situation that whole game in general, because then Delaney broke his leg. Also, we literally go out I think it was like two minutes left in the first half when they had a rain delay, so we literally went out and had to do two minute minute to start.

00:31:38
Speaker 2: It's like we're in there practicing walking through in the locker room.

00:31:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, we literally I've never been a part of a game where you're like, all right, just take your pads off.

00:31:45
Speaker 2: Everyone relaxed, We're not going anywhere. For a while, it was it was it was wild, and it was halftime. Then we went back out a nuts. Yeah, that was that was a while.

00:31:56
Speaker 1: You bring up speaking of the rules over the last years, what rules?

00:32:01
Speaker 2: What rule have you hated the most that's been implemented? What rule? That's a good question. I mean I think that the rules have always you know, I don't know if I hate any of them. I think that you know, you talk about defenseless receiver, like I think the players have changed their behavior, think for the good. I mean you look at some of those NFL film clips, even from like ten or twelve years ago, and you're like, my god, yeah, like yeah, but I give credit to the players for changing their behavior. Lower inner target. I think that's a good rule. You know. We'll see where the kickoff thing goes. We'll see how that it, you know, adjusts, and does it affect, you know, the ability to return football. I think the teams will still you know, I'm sure you have a take on it, being you know, we we all played special teams, so kickoff still needs to be a part of the game, and I think it will. But when you look at the analytics and the numbers, just trying to do something and to help the players in the safety of it. So I don't know if there's any been any rule changes that I've that I've hated. What about as a fucking football player guy, not as a head coach? Early two thousands do yeah, I remember there was one year where I don't know if it was twenty twenty. But because you always do a good job like coaching within the rules and be like guys, I fucking I trust me. I hated it.

00:33:21
Speaker 3: I disagree. Blah blah blah, but this is how we have to do it. I want to say it was maybe maybe d backs or people coming in to cut polers or something like that that was kind of like, man, what the fuck do you want these guys to do?

00:33:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what I mean you look at that, and that hasn't effected the plays. I mean, these tackles, these guys can still get out of the edge, but the tackles didn't like when those guys would go low with them. And so what it's done is it's forced them to slow down, right, because if they keep going Taylor, then the dB just sticks and avoids, right. We talked about that. We saw Christian Fulton stick and dip underneath and make a play. But then if the lineman comes to back and just gets in the way, well then the collision isn't that bad. So I don't think it's affected really. The one that's affected it has been on those those slip screens where you used to have to go out there and throw and you had no chance and you're just trying to get in the way with the guy. Uh he, And so they're really those aren't haven't been really good players around the league. And I think probably that one has been the only one that's affected has been affected by that. The toss cracks, the perimeter runs and some of those screens. You know. Hell, it's kept Ben kept Ben's uniform clean for a couple of years because he just go out there and belly flopping every single time. It'd be just grass standing out there on the front side of those screens. So that one, and I think Taylor will agree that if you didn't go out there and throw at the guy, you just weren't going.

00:34:44
Speaker 1: To be able to get the dB on that No, especially with all that space. If they're up a little bit more like path screen or something like that, it's a little bit easier. But they're out there, yeah, Mecher trailer or something like that.

00:34:54
Speaker 2: And we coached to them. We coach to whatever the rules are and try to try to help everybody and take use them to advantage. That's a good job. That was a good around pivoting. That was you're you're very well spoken. Well, dice it up a little bit. Let's go.

00:35:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a football fucking player, guy, which rule do you hate the most?

00:35:14
Speaker 2: Give me fucking three options? Like I don't even you know what I mean? Like what are we talking about quarterback? Being around was probably the thing for you as a player. That was like hard to being around the knees of the quarterback when you're rushing being a pass rusher.

00:35:28
Speaker 1: We pay these guys fifty million dollars at the time. You weren't paying nobody. You were a player, you were rushing the past.

00:35:33
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have liked that one. You would hated it, you know what I mean. Like, but like, you got to protect these guys. What do you want to see all the court? Nobody's gonna watch to Okay, And I tell you I don't mind the quarterback being protected below the knee, and I mean outside of pocket. Where are we going on a quarterback? Thank you, Taylor, Yo, thank you. Thank you for paying attention to the team meeting.

00:35:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to talk with the team meetings like that was your first year the most terrifying ship because.

00:36:06
Speaker 3: Defensive questions and you're all in the same meeting. You haven't listening to any of our Kevin BYRT episode.

00:36:12
Speaker 2: No, I haven't listened to any I only listen to mine. That's okay, that's right, that's course.

00:36:21
Speaker 3: No, Well a couple then, Yeah, I was rested in the KB one because we were talking about how much you know it sucked that first year playing for Braves compared to years years later.

00:36:32
Speaker 1: Suck it was you weren't used to it. That's that's your perspective. But I'm we're saying a slayer. So we go in the locker room, We're like this fucking guy tough fair?

00:36:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, what you're u saying my my opinions? Fair? Are you saying butt fair? Butt fair? Okay? Like or no?

00:36:49
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say you were extremely fair. In twenty eighteen, here's what I thought, if I couldn't.

00:36:55
Speaker 2: Words words, coach, you.

00:37:00
Speaker 1: Get the bag, get the bag, the bag, show you how fair I am.

00:37:08
Speaker 2: I've brought the rest of your stuff. In February February twenty seven, twenty twenty three, Taylor was thanking the Titans for bringing their stuff. I do if we brought the rest of the stuff. When I opened this, there's nothing in there. It was just a prop I needed. Just put it together, get basket or something the top of it. Yeah.

00:37:26
Speaker 1: But twenty eighteen, here's my perspective looking at it. Zoomed out new coach head coach implementing the culture he wants to implement. Came from the Bill Belichick tree of the Patriots. You're walking into a very loose.

00:37:39
Speaker 2: Were we young then? Was twenty two? We were a young team. I mean no, in there, it wasn't too young, but a good mix.

00:37:46
Speaker 1: And I feel like there in college, a head coach comes in, he's weeding out the week. Immediately, he's cutting the grass to find the snakes. Yeah, and I feel like that's where you went. At what point did you think, Okay, I've got a good grass.

00:38:00
Speaker 2: I respected absolutely, And I've said this before on record that nobody complained, nobody bitched. You know, we got buy in from from Drell, from Rack, all those guys on defense, and from the guys on offense. So Delaney, I mean, it was like it was easy for me because it was like these guys, you know, I said, they're going to hold the best players the most accountable, and we tried to do that, and I thought it'd sent a good message and guys didn't bristle, guys didn't like because you I think I tried to make it relevant to coaching. It wasn't just a to bitch to bitch like Taylor, We're gonna we're gonna get to the line of scrimmage. Whether Taylor wanted to get to the line of scrimmage. Eventually he got got to the fucking line of scrimmage. But that was our like little pissing contest when we first got there. Yeah, there was a lot of conflict before cooperation with you and me. It was fine.

00:38:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it worked out great, right, Yeah, but it was tough that first here. What was it like coaching a guy like Taylor and then coaching a guy like Ben Jones?

00:39:05
Speaker 2: Well, I think I respect. The one thing I have done is I respect that there's a lot of different personalities and there's a lot of way to get your job done. And I have a great relationship with Taylor, great relationship with Ben, and but I mean, held they're opposite is can be? I mean it's like Taylor, I realized just Taylor wanted a bitch, just the bitch sometimes because that's who Taylor was. But he wasn't like he never did the work. It wasn't like he didn't put the work in. Wasn't like he didn't run or lift or whatever. He just like, Okay, Taylor, we know you're here. You don't really have to tell us that you're here. We know you're here. But it was fine and I didn't have a problem. I mean it was like we asked him to do something, he did it. He worked already ran, he was at the front of the back, you know. I mean it was like, so I didn't but that's who Taylor is. It's like we respected it and you know, want to lift this way? Okay, yeah, you know, modify the workout. Who gives a shit just getting the weight? Ro Was that always that? No? Yeah, that's definitely that sounds about right. I bring up literally you and Ben. You're you're sitting here.

00:40:06
Speaker 3: We were just talking about you, and then I think Ben, because you guys are very different. Yeah, So it's almost like figuring out communicating with players when you're when you're more so not as much the coordinator or a position coach anymore. When you're the head coach and you you probably have to maybe listen a little bit more versus being like yo, just fucking do this or run to the head man if you want to change something.

00:40:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

00:40:25
Speaker 1: I would always notice like like if I'm a coach, I'm confiding in Ben a lot more than confiding in me. Ben is like as trustfully as they come, as tough as they come, knows all the players. Literally, he could, I'm correct if I'm wrong, he could probably sit in a coach's meeting, an offensive meeting, and and tell everybody what they're doing.

00:40:43
Speaker 2: You have to, like the inside linebacker, you know everybody's job. You know what where the front's supposed to be, you know what the coverage is supposed to be. I mean, the center has to know where everybody's blocking. I used to love when Keith would be in there and he'd ask, like the left guard, the rookie left guard, what the right tackle has on eighteen watro And I'm like thinking to myself, what fucking difference is make? Ben's just gonna tell everybody.

00:41:07
Speaker 1: What to do the question Ben like see triple yeah, man, reach, let's go and then with it like but looking at that, Ben's no longer on the team, Like Brewer is a great football peractly, and he's like, you said it yourself, tough is a two dollars steak, not the best guy at enunciating a little more quiet than Ben was, like, is that is that something you've worked on during well again.

00:41:28
Speaker 2: Last year we went through a situation where on a short week going to Green Bay on the road, Brew had to play center four days and I saw saw him over the course of four days prepare, communicate, get those guys ready to go all the way up until we left the hotel from Green Bay. You know, those short weeks, you're cramming in everything you can. And it was like, that's exactly what we're looking for. You're gonna be different than then, You're gonna lead differently than Ben. We're gonna need you to leave, like that's what the center has to do. Uh. In the offensive line, it.

00:42:06
Speaker 1: Was awesome bruise around Brew, I mean a little bit the second the second time.

00:42:11
Speaker 2: What was that twenty twenty one. Yeah, he's your second stint, the second stint, but try to work on a thrown second.

00:42:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, the second sting when you know, you had to cut me and I didn't number. It's a number here and I didn't hear from it. The numbers thing I didn't hear from me. Brought you back?

00:42:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I never heard from you the day of the cut. Oh you didn't go to the back the next day.

00:42:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I never heard from you. You didn't have the shows to bring your boy in and cut him. You were going to be in the meeting the next morning you re signed. You I had the way my options oh okay or option A. When you cut will you didn't bring him to the office or anything like that.

00:42:48
Speaker 3: I didn't get a phone call, you know, like hey, when would you like to No, I got snipped newtered.

00:42:55
Speaker 2: That's a old fashioned way.

00:42:57
Speaker 1: Did do it a couple of times? They probably thought, Oh, this guy's got tough skin, he's been here. Yeah, it's just funny. They're like, hey, we know this is going to happen. It's still hwer man. I didn't get coming back.

00:43:08
Speaker 2: We brought you back and then we elevated you after that. Yeah yeah.

00:43:13
Speaker 1: Ravens speaking of cutting guys, well, it's like the most awkward or is there a situation there was a guy like just livid, yelling, screaming mad, or like an awkward situation when you're cutting somebody.

00:43:23
Speaker 2: I mean, this is you know, that's this is tough. Haven't been through it as a player, you know, you go all the way through training camp. I mean it's like you spent a lot of time with guys even more so than regular season, Like the training camp is like long days, you know, and it's just like you know that things are going to happen, and you can only keep so many guys, and I think just you know, you just try to put yourself in their position and try to be as respectful as possible, and you know, be as honest as you can. I think I've always tried to be honest. I think our organization has tried to be honest and say, yeah, we would like to bring you back on a practice squad or there's been numerous times where we've said we're probably not going to have a spot for you on the practice squad. And I think players at least appreciate the honesty so they know where they stand.

00:44:11
Speaker 1: There's never been a guy that lost their mind.

00:44:15
Speaker 2: I mean you fairly, you know. I mean there's been, you know, in five years, there's been you know, maybe one or two where you know, it.

00:44:25
Speaker 1: Gets a little dicey, you know, called Jeb, You're just not gonna do shit exactly all stretch.

00:44:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, it hasn't been anything.

00:44:34
Speaker 1: I think the year before you got there, like twenty seventeen, some guy got cut. He went to the sauna pissing the rocks and the sauna, and for weeks no sna the sauna was it just smelled terrible in there.

00:44:46
Speaker 2: So I think I was twelve, and we had like an overnight stay at like the tennis and racket club back in Akron, Ohio, like Friday night, like kids night or whatever, and they locked the doors until like six in the morning, so he like run around could ball courts or firing the you know, racket balls at everybody. And so I remember in sauna and some dude pissed in the sauna and the instructor came in, big meathead, and he wouldn't let us leave the sauna until and I'm like, listen, I'm fucking fat and I'm sweating, and it's midnight. You need to own up to this ship because we're He kept us in the sauna like we're just like weathering away until the dude finally said who was me? Thank god, and like we all want rushing out of the sauna.

00:45:32
Speaker 1: What an embarrassing situation for that guy to sit there with a bunch of kids and be like.

00:45:37
Speaker 2: The one that knows them. No, I mean I think it was like he was probably older, you know, I mean I was like, you're still twelve, Like, yeah, awkward, twelve a tough year, you know, you know Rave Goat growing up in Ohio, Like, Rave's got some story. Mullet, There's no question Mullet rocked the Mullet.

00:45:55
Speaker 1: It was what was it like being a dad having twelve thirteen year olds finding themselves? You know what they're you know what their search history looks like on the explore page.

00:46:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like chen it like three four, five, six knocks, Like if the doors locked, why is the door locked? We know why the door showers? Yeah, that's fucking that's a tough deal. Yeah, it sounds like quarantine. It sounds like you ever caught one of them? You ever caught one of them tugging it? Hell no, I would deny it if I did.

00:46:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, no, it's definitely Carter.

00:46:34
Speaker 2: No. I meant I've I've caught Carter, but not Carter tugging it. Yeah. Not not, not in the middle of the deal. Somebody else was probably tugging it.

00:46:47
Speaker 1: Hey, dad has got to be As a dad, you're kind of like, hey, nice, but at the same time you're like that you can't do.

00:46:52
Speaker 2: That in this house. No, you can't do that.

00:46:54
Speaker 1: I had one of those situations with my dad one time. Was you yeah, like there was nothing like like that. We were kind of just like kissing on my bed and her shirt was off.

00:47:02
Speaker 2: I was you were just kind of kissing. He went into the mic, was like kind of kissing, you know.

00:47:09
Speaker 1: I was just tearing up my denim. I was kind of like, you know, and then all of a sudden, I hear loud footsteps and I thought, oh fuck, it's over. And then my day walked the cover the little girl and goes you get out.

00:47:19
Speaker 2: She gets out, and he's like, you talk about the walk of shame. Oh, she was rattled for days.

00:47:26
Speaker 1: But he kind of like low key gave me a fist pump is like, you should have been working out, you should have been training for football, Like, gave me a whole talk of how to stay focused on ball and all that.

00:47:34
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00:48:46
Speaker 1: Back to this episode, we're backrolling a little bit of technical difficulties. That kind of is nice, though a little nostalgic feeling, because when we first started with Rayon on the bus, we always had stuff like that.

00:48:57
Speaker 2: What I'm going going by, gud nerves curves, You guys, have upgraded.

00:49:04
Speaker 3: This is nice. We're a better spot now. Yeah, he's being the last time. Yeah, you were like one of the first five episodes, was it first five for seven eight?

00:49:14
Speaker 2: One of them that was I.

00:49:15
Speaker 1: Will tell you that was like a breath of fresh air. When we asked you to come on, You're like, yes, because that's like the biggest.

00:49:21
Speaker 2: Nervous thing is when you have it was absolutely terrified. Yeah.

00:49:23
Speaker 1: We had Travis Kelcey on last week and he was talking about when he started his podcast, how Andy Reidward feel and then Andy Read went on he felt a whole lot better and that literally was a massive like win for us when you came on. Obviously you boost the numbers. I hate giving you flowers.

00:49:39
Speaker 2: I know.

00:49:44
Speaker 8: Time.

00:49:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did say you would cut off your dick for a Super Bowl. Now, if we're going in order, that year we went to the AFC Championship between the Baltimore Ravens game and the Chiefs game. They asked you about cutting your dick off and you said no, And so do you feel like.

00:50:02
Speaker 2: The Super Bowl ad or whatever? I don't know it was applied. I was excited. I got caught up in the moment of the pod, and I was, like I said, I was just trying to give you guys some clicks. You did, Hey, you really did? That was nice.

00:50:17
Speaker 1: I want to say, like because Jalen came on after him, right, I remember I believe he did.

00:50:22
Speaker 2: But then just say the bar was set. Yeah, and I'm okay a little bit. But how did you.

00:50:29
Speaker 3: Feel when we had started the podcast at first, because it was fairly newer, especially for players doing it then because you guys would just pay Taylor a boatload of money appreciate that.

00:50:40
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we just said just can we not do it during the season or whatever it was. I don't know, we just have a sit down conversation about it.

00:50:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it was because the del anyone popped off and that was like an IV story that he told and it's like, oh, tights tall room IV whatever, And so you had to make an example about like, hey, guys, they can take anything that you say and make it into.

00:51:02
Speaker 2: A report, right, And it's just this is a long conversation and wherever it goes from here, But the point was that the players is it gets going to get spliced up and it's gonna get cut and edited by these these guys, and you know, who knows what's gonna come out.

00:51:20
Speaker 3: You know you wanted to say something I did.

00:51:24
Speaker 1: I want to say slap dicks, but you you didn't think. You know, you didn't have much of a thought on at all. You didn't really care. No, I didn't care.

00:51:34
Speaker 2: No. I mean I was like, I thought it was going to fall flat on its face. But I you know, I didn't care. I really had no idea. I mean I was like, see this ghost, but I didn't care. I don't think I had like a I mean, it gave me like it was like free ammunition. I could just give you guys ship that was yeah. I was yeah.

00:51:55
Speaker 1: The first year of every team meeting, I was like, man, I hope something doesn't come out with the pod. I was just praying about it. Then you you took your time if it was.

00:52:05
Speaker 2: I didn't want to like wear it out. I wanted to make sure that's worth it.

00:52:09
Speaker 3: The second time around. I feel like I was more nervous about it for the second stan.

00:52:13
Speaker 2: Because you had been you had been going heavy on social and then it was like the Raiders flicks and I came back. I got you pretty good at that time, you're talking about your little presentation presentation. But you watch me.

00:52:27
Speaker 1: Let's not get a twisted now. You watched, you watched all the content. No, no, you would come in the next day. Hey will, how was the Wendy's Burg.

00:52:35
Speaker 2: I have people that do that for me? No, there's no here we go. You know how much how many people we have on staff that do that rape.

00:52:45
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm going to say, office, Hang on, I got this, I got I got this. Okay, So the first year, I guess he's in charge because I.

00:52:55
Speaker 2: Haven't really won the power struggle. I know, I haven't realized example giving it back to him. I'm just know, Well, make sure the boy is right, and you're right, You're right, you're right. Hey ten keys, you saw in the group's hat.

00:53:10
Speaker 1: Don't let him get But we were.

00:53:15
Speaker 3: We were about to play Washington and Lafleur like had me in a meeting when they were breaking down, like what the defense is doing because Manusky.

00:53:22
Speaker 2: Was still the d C.

00:53:23
Speaker 3: YadA YadA, YadA, and Raves was in the meeting and uh, We're like sitting there. Blame was next to me, Raves on my left, and there were I won't say any names with Raves showing me.

00:53:34
Speaker 2: Like a couple of head like a couple of stories. Look at this motherfucker.

00:53:37
Speaker 3: You know this ship is so you know either this ain't true or you know it ain't going down like that. And he's like, he shows me his phone and I see that my man's on Instagram. So from that moment, I always knew like of Raves, he's a he's a Tier three man.

00:53:49
Speaker 2: He's a little closet. He likes the content you surf the web, and that's okay. I don't like the content, but I like to know what's going on.

00:53:58
Speaker 1: And you also like little bit of a different story than you were just saying, because you sued to have people for it.

00:54:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, real world experience, fucking heart and soul into that story. At least I gotta give him a little credit, Like it not the first blog I wrote. You take a screenshot, can't wait to read more from the shitter I did. I meant, I just like to have some ammunition any.

00:54:19
Speaker 3: Of my tweets if I get out of line a little bit with Twitter, or I get too much on the more like the moral like, oh what are you the fucking yeah? The moral police? Now you said something. I remember it was something about like.

00:54:30
Speaker 2: Telling about the Darren Bates thing your mindset after Oh that was? That was?

00:54:34
Speaker 3: That was more so that was like a different example, And I was fucking terrified for my life because I had taken the video of dB in the locker room.

00:54:43
Speaker 2: We had the linebacker room. Like if you were injured and you were like.

00:54:46
Speaker 1: Doing walk through but not practicing, you kind of know what you're trying to do as a player. It's like I see you trying to take these walk through the rest, but you're not actually trying to fucking get in there practice, So you would essentially I bought this neck break of Amazon that you'd have to wear around if you just to walk through and not to practice.

00:55:01
Speaker 2: And so when dB.

00:55:02
Speaker 3: Had his yellow jersey on for a walk through that when he came back in the locker room, I like threw it down, like, hey, you gotta put this on, and I was like filming in the locker room. Rave hits me up like maybe nine o'clock at night. It was a little bit later. I'm sitting theren and watching before bed. Yeah, and he's like, uh, he sent me, he sent me the link. And then he goes. You think this was smart putting out essentially like you know, something injury related on the internet media.

00:55:30
Speaker 1: Rules guidelines, not rules sideline. I might have asked something back, just feel it out. But just like my heart's beating right now. My heart was pounding out of my fucking chest.

00:55:39
Speaker 3: Dude, yea, like god damn it, Like he's going to you know, I'm gonna be example tomorrow.

00:55:45
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's actually, you know, in like mad or not like that, because that's the whole like in like that Taylor was doing that because our dynamic was always we were always boys outside of the season, and anytime I'm your player in the season can play at different It's just like there's like if we had that breakfast, remember that breakfast at the Renaissance.

00:56:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got me the conerental. Yeah you bought that conin rentals for me. Yeah I had some cheerio, yeah, fresh fruit. I remember that.

00:56:17
Speaker 2: He took me around town the City's this is like he's trying to court you to co f agency visit, free agency visit.

00:56:24
Speaker 3: He's court me around like you know, the president the playoffs. It's it's popping off on Broadway like it goes down here, he's.

00:56:29
Speaker 2: Thirty, he's hitting the continental fifteen minute recruiting spiel. You do the same thing for DeAndre Hopkins. He still hurts just as much. But yeah, there was always that dynamic.

00:56:45
Speaker 3: So when he sent me that textas, I don't hear a lot out of him unless there's just something funny that very wants to come over and like say that in his mind, he's telling me as a joke. But in my mind, I'm thinking, like I got to make sure I'm a player in front of him versus the person he's Probably he thinks that I could be like behind the phone or something like that. So he come up and like tell me a joke, and I'm then I realized, like I'm like, you know, I laugh or whatever. I'm just thinking, man, this motherfucker plays an insane level of mental warfare with me. Yes, So then when he texted me, I don't know if he like thought it was funny or he thought like no, I'm actually pissed off. But I know you guys, like I know, you know, you just didn't know. So I was terrified to go to the meeting the next day and he did.

00:57:23
Speaker 2: I mean, of course, I see things that you guys put out there, and then I think when there's really good ones and they're really funny ones, then I'll take the Twitter once every six months to Yeah, you do gracess with your press, throw one back across. Yeah, I feel like your Twitter just exists the body of miror Well, it's it.

00:57:39
Speaker 3: We've been getting your followers up, though I don't because at first you had it. You had the Daddy's giving you clicks. I'm giving your views. Don't use my name for pogre tag me and all this shit. I'm like, stop tagging me. But now that it's off the tip, now it's shifted to.

00:57:56
Speaker 2: Where it's like or will we got him.

00:58:01
Speaker 3: We got to get the name down where we can shout him out and help get you know, our favorite head coach ups and followers.

00:58:06
Speaker 1: We're helping the Titans. We're helping the Titans from a distance. But DeAndre Hopkins not official, but he's coming.

00:58:15
Speaker 2: I would imagine that as soon as he signs, it'll be official.

00:58:20
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, yeah, he's coming. It's officially official.

00:58:23
Speaker 2: Unofficially, unofficially, I think we've agreed to terms in principle. Was there we talked about in the bus.

00:58:32
Speaker 1: Was there a fear because of how Julio Jones worked out getting a guy like DeAndre? Different players, oposly, different people, different mindsets.

00:58:39
Speaker 2: Again, anytime in free agency, no, I think, you know, yeah, you have to have some working knowledge of the player there they are as a person, who they are in the building, whether one of your coaches coached him, whether you knew him, because just for the reasons that we talked about with the culture and what's it going to be like and what the expectations are. You know, sometimes free agency is great. Sometimes you know it's not. So there's always things that you'd know you have to be careful of, you know that, just spend a lot of time with these guys before you draft them, whether it's combine zoom, spend a day with them here in town where you bring them in or you go work them out on their campus, and you just don't have that sometimes in free agency unless you've been with them. So we've got some coaches on staff that have been with with hop me included, so we obviously feel good about it. Yeah, he's obviously a stud player.

00:59:42
Speaker 3: But was there any like hesitation given some of the high profile free agents you've signed in the past that didn't necessarily work out, then do you have to basically do you recruit yourself from that thinking so that way you can probably.

00:59:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean, I don't think whatever happened in the past with another player is going to apply to this particular player. And things come up, well we'll have to you know, work through them. But I mean, we wouldn't have signed him or wanted to sign them if it were confident that, you know, he'd help us.

01:00:10
Speaker 1: Did you talk to him about blocking? We've seen the Houston tape I can see in the team meeting.

01:00:18
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I mean I think that what are we doing here again? You get what you get what you emphasize, and I think that, you know, I'm confident that he'll do what we ask him to do, and certainly that's that's not going to be his number one job, is the is the block. It's not gonna be Trailing's number one job. It's not going to be Kyle's number one job. So you know, we have to do a better job. Coach, speaking to death, but you know, we got to protect the quarterback so that we can you know, throw the ball efficiently. You don't have to throw it fifty times to win, but you got to throw it efficient. Yeah, a lot of noise and the times are in a rebuild year. I don't ever think that in this league. I don't never going to believe that. I think that our guys will prepare, our guys will fight, and guys will I think we've got a chance to beat anybody. How do you feel like this roster is different this year than has been? Like, you know, well, I mean we had to move on from veterans. I mean you get to a point where that's what happens in this league, you know, whether it's me getting traded to Kansas City, you know, going into my thirteenth year, or having to move on from from some players or making decisions. I mean, that's how this thing goes, and everybody's aware of it. So I think that's the first thing, you know. I mean, we've got some veteran players that I've been with for you know, the five years that I've been here that that we had to move on from, and other players as well. So I think that's probably the biggest you know, it will be the biggest difference. But every years, there's always change every year.

01:01:55
Speaker 1: When you were. Uh, when the whole A. J. Brown thing was going down, he was in contract negotiations. You had a press compensate. As long as I'm the head coach, Adrian bow will be on this team. And then all of a sudden he's obviously on the Eagles. What was that?

01:02:10
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, obviously, as the head coach, you you want every player that you think can help you win on the team. And certainly had a great relationship and still have a relationship with AJ. Yeah, but then sometimes in the business of professional sports, you know, things things go a different direction. And that's it's where they went, happy for AJ, happy for his family, and uh, you know, we got compensated, and now we'll have to keep going it without him, just like we tried last year.

01:02:44
Speaker 3: What's the warroom like in a situation like that when that night is unfolding and happening.

01:02:50
Speaker 2: Obviously they haves in there.

01:02:51
Speaker 3: They got they try and capture reactions, But what's it like like in that kind of situation.

01:02:58
Speaker 2: You want to put to my son that or something? All right, ten the night is yeah, I should have brought my Nie leaves that the uh new like the monarchs, man, you gotta be ready to go at any moment. You got some wide feet, brother, yeah, some pizza feet. So uh. But a lot of those conversations go on. Some of those go on before, Like you're on the clock, right, So we traded whenever we traded this year, and you know you kind of have conversations and you know that's those don't just happen in the in the twelve minutes or ten minutes that you're on the clock. A lot of those times it's you know, talked about before and you know ultimately once they were on the clock, you know they they they made the deal. What's the do you have any more on?

01:03:50
Speaker 1: I want to like, I want you to take me in that war, like what was it? Back and forth? You remember like their first off or who called who?

01:03:59
Speaker 2: Uh? I would say that everybody calls everybody in this league. Two weeks leading up to the draft. Yeah, I promise you coaches will talk coach starts at the combine. I think gms will start calling each other so to say like somebody called somebody. I don't ever buy that because they all you know, are talking about Hey, you know you're willing to move up, you're willing to move back? And then you just start trying to you know, figure out where things may go or players or draft picks, and then you know, there's conversations all the way up to the draft, and then it's ultimately it's you know, if we like the deal, we'll call you when we're on the clock.

01:04:42
Speaker 1: If h does it usually happen where if the Titans are on the clock, are you guys more likely to receive calls or send out calls?

01:04:51
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's hard to send out calls when you're on the clock because then you're probably you know what I mean. Then then you're pretty much I don't know what kind of value you're going to get. You just do if you look and see what's on the board and see, you know what somebody is wanting to come up and give you for a pick, all right? You know what I mean. It's like if we're sitting there at you know, fifty seven or whatever, and somebody has a player, you know, they'll call a couple out, like, hey, if our guys there, would you guys be willing to move back? Sure? You know, And then if they don't call, you assume that you're you're they're the player that they wanted. Got picked, you know, and then it's like, well, who are you taking, Well, we're not, you know, maybe we want the same guy. Yeah, you play that game. So that's kind of how it works. You know, in those later rounds when.

01:05:40
Speaker 1: You were leading up to the game against the Eagles, obviously you probably had a big emphasis on they have a great receiving corpse.

01:05:46
Speaker 2: They have a great offense across the board.

01:05:49
Speaker 1: When you get in the game and you see Aj doing what AJ's doing, is there a part of you that's like make good for him?

01:05:57
Speaker 2: Maybe not that, Maybe not right then and there. Yeah, fuck now, you know what I mean. But because I try to look, Yeah, I mean I try to look back and see, you know, that game was a one score game and we jump off sides in the red zone and we get pushed back and we don't you know, finish the drive off, and then it just kind of snowballed from there. You know, quarterback got hit and you know, fumbled, and you know, we couldn't do anything to stop them on big plays. And but I don't know, if I looked at it right then and there, I wouldn't say I'm I'm happy for Aj, but not certainly that day they called it back not that, and then he did another one. Yeah.

01:06:42
Speaker 1: I mean I'm sitting there like, holy shit, dude, this guy's just on a on a mission, you know how AJ is He only needs like some I'm going to say something a little off, let alone getting traded to be like all right, I'm about to go crazy on these guys.

01:06:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would imagine that, knowing that maybe there was you know, motivation. Again, it's negotiations and pro sports, like you've been through it, it's sometimes they they go in different directions.

01:07:14
Speaker 3: After that game, the transition starts to happen for John gets fired. You guys bringing Ran, Can you talk about that transition as the tides were moving on from a GM that had been here with you the whole time to finding somebody else.

01:07:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was a great process. I mean it was an inclusive process. Brought in a lot of great candidates. I interviewed some some people in house that had been here, and then you know, ultimately went with Ran and Uh. I thought Amy made an amazing decision and been awesome to work with. Brought in some great guys, brought in Chad Brinker and Anthony Robinson, you know, so continue to communicate, continue to talk. Uh. Work through the spring, you know, I thought it was the spring was really good. I thought we got a lot of stuff done. I thought, you know, our ability to work through the draft was really good. So just looking forward to see where we go here in training camp? Was it weird moving on from a GM in the middle of the season. I mean, we all work for somebody, you know what I mean, And so it's like I've got to I support this organization. I support Amy. John hired me, you know what I mean. He was partly responsible. Ultimately Amy had that final decision. But John was a general manager when I got the job here, so a ton of respect for him and a job that he did, you know, and I think we all wish, we you know, wouldn't happen. But you know that's again, we're in professional sports and we know what we signed up for.

01:08:48
Speaker 1: When you're looking at a situation during the season, after the when din't.

01:08:52
Speaker 2: You guys get so serious and all this ship? Well, we had fun, We've been having fun, but that's more fun.

01:08:57
Speaker 3: Would we be able to have more fun if you fucking come on once? Are but you hold this hostage every now and then to come on here.

01:09:02
Speaker 1: By the way, for those of you listening, this is the only individual it's ever asked for money to come on this podcast. But what kind of money that I asked for? You wanted us to donate for charity? Charity and the boys and the boys showed up.

01:09:13
Speaker 2: Yeah it turned into that. But yeah, you from a great school of fucking negotiating. I know, yes, I know, I'm here, are I You are here, guys step out there. But you're talking about this attire too? Which question for you? Like the man, just like you're a cartoon. If you will see you like this, you just show up on the bus for you. I love it. We can co Jersey bring bring showing your gift. You're ten.

01:09:41
Speaker 1: Joey and the Boys Joey Jerome. Jerome stowed that on today, So I wish you to put year for the last name.

01:09:50
Speaker 2: I thought you'd want. You know, they probably recognized you. They probably recognized Compton more than they do your face.

01:09:57
Speaker 8: So but anyway, to answer your question, we get coached very baoning like you knows situation.

01:10:10
Speaker 2: Yeah we can, we can. You want to talk about that. We get to have fun. It's next on your list. No, usually, we got to make sure we prove, we got to make sure we get the p f T the ESPN's like they're fucking Mike Rayville and busting with the boys. He talked about this. Yeah, we have enough to do. We have job, have a job to do. Green Bay game.

01:10:32
Speaker 1: Obviously, after the green Bay game with Todd downing, that happened. I'm not gonna ask about that because we know the like the chronicle of Todd and how everything happened. But what was your process because obviously Todd was let go, Like when all that is happening, where does your mind go as far as like figuring out because some people are saying, hey, you gotta fire this guy right now. Obviously it happened after the season, like from inside the walls of the other.

01:10:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that those things are two separate situations. Taler. I meant we we all needed to be better on offense, You know what I mean. We we all did, our players and our coaches, starting with me, needed to be better on offense. Then again, the next the next situation that you're referring to is we're all responsible at some point for our choices, our decisions and when things that we do. So I think those are two separate things. I didn't feel like the right thing to do was was to make a move, you know, at that point in time in the season, and uh, you know when when the season ended, I felt like, you know, we needed to have some change in leadership on offense, and and that's what we did.

01:11:43
Speaker 1: That was I think that's enough serious stuff. If you were to coach, for no, that's okay.

01:11:46
Speaker 2: But I mean we all do. I mean every day it happens. You know, we try to talk about the decisions that we make, the people surround ourselves with, and and what the habits that were create. And so the trifecta, the trifecta. What was the fun question you're about to ask? Do you remember the trifecta? No? Did you? Did you sit in our meetings? Rabe?

01:12:11
Speaker 3: Again, we can go back in our text messages. The very first time I impersonated you, you texted that night. Like after that, you forgot everything else I've said. At least I know you're paying attention. Even last year I came in.

01:12:23
Speaker 1: It was tough because they they I thought you would be a little come, a little stronger.

01:12:30
Speaker 2: What do you mean I thought you had a little bit more. I thought I had Jeff Simmons shirt like that ship was funny. It was funny. It was funny. But I don't I think he left a little bit out there on the field, left the little meat on the bone. I think, So, what do you think I mean? Give me, give me an honest evaluation. Me personally, it was hard to top year one. Yes it was. And last year it looked to me like you were just laying up too much, like you weren't like going for the fucking green. Well, in my defense, hold on, let me let me all.

01:13:03
Speaker 1: Do I think Will being in the training camp the whole time the first time he did it, he knows all the repetitive things you've been saying. This time he's kind of buffed into a situation and getting some tape and he's like, do I fall back on the same stuff because he knows, like, hey, rape is a little bit different.

01:13:19
Speaker 2: He handle stuff a little bit differently. So I'm sure new guys stretches having to feed me like I'm like, hey, what are some and all that.

01:13:29
Speaker 1: I thought it was really good, and especially the new guys that didn't see the first time.

01:13:33
Speaker 2: I thought I thought he really loved it good. I don't know if it was really good, right.

01:13:38
Speaker 1: It's one of those things your best players to play their best, you know what.

01:13:41
Speaker 2: I think pops it off ripping a jewel. Mm hmm, not doing that? Why not? We stopped? We went, we we stopped. Yeah, he say, any stuff, and your hand's been shaking the whole time you've been in here. I know you have this question shot.

01:13:59
Speaker 3: But we were like I came in the building versus like, hey, do you want to be coach Rabel again?

01:14:04
Speaker 2: Like coming to training camp? You have it?

01:14:05
Speaker 1: Hold on back up even more than that, Like a week and a half before that, I went into Rave's office and I was like, hey, we should get will when he comes in expecting no and gets yes. So you said I'll think about it. That you gave me the whole I'll think about it. When I say i'll think about it, it walked away like kind of like you show me to the door, I'll think about it. Yeah, shoot me at the door. And apparently he calls you, like right after that, he's like it kind of has a low voice talking to.

01:14:30
Speaker 2: I didn't want to tell him. I wanted to say no, but then tell you just set it up.

01:14:34
Speaker 1: So before the Rookie show, I'm like standing out there with Stretch, Like Stretch stands out there and waits for everybody to get in, and so it's just like get inside and like usually we kind of hang out for a couple of minutes and he's like go and I'm like, why is this man pushing me so much? And I literally had no idea that I got fired up when he walked in. I got fired walk in with the this like hey, that's my boy.

01:14:54
Speaker 2: Look it stoked out there.

01:14:55
Speaker 1: He's like, this is the games, the rook Games, telling you about the rookies like a bad It was an all right show.

01:15:02
Speaker 2: There's a couple of good skits in there.

01:15:04
Speaker 1: They did a bad busting with the boys, and they did a couple of things where I was like, yeah, that's funny.

01:15:09
Speaker 2: I guess right. But then you came you low key.

01:15:12
Speaker 1: Saved the show. So was it the best you've ever done? I agree with you know, but you did save the show.

01:15:17
Speaker 2: It it was that bad of a show. Yeah, I mean it was fun to do.

01:15:22
Speaker 3: I was nervous to do because I'm like, hey, Stretch, you understand, like I need actual material for me in that.

01:15:26
Speaker 2: New team meeting room, sick. It's amazing.

01:15:29
Speaker 3: And then we're back like putting it all together, like going through film clips and everything else, like you could, you could storyline it this way. That way we're making up, you know. I was like, hey, let me get an I love Jeff Simmons shirt to wear in there. We haven't We're about to go out, like hey, Ray, that was the one thing I wanted to clear with him. I was like, can I can I get one of your jewels? Like can I hit a jewel? When I get out there?

01:15:49
Speaker 2: He's like no, why not? Because I didn't have him in there.

01:15:53
Speaker 3: And she's like Jen saying it too, like why not? Why won't you let me know? And he was like I let you in the building, Like what you got?

01:16:00
Speaker 1: No?

01:16:01
Speaker 2: All right man whatever.

01:16:02
Speaker 1: That was a fun time. Dude, had a little lunch after, but broke a little brad.

01:16:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are trying to talk me out of the first time around, the very first one we did in training camp because that's.

01:16:11
Speaker 2: Time around crush. I still laugh at that ship.

01:16:14
Speaker 3: Because that one was like, uh, I still laugh braved it and like nobody kind of knew and I had a couple of vets. We were like, hey, you sure you want to do this? This is you know, if you're making fun of the head coach. I'm thinking, yeah, I guess you're right.

01:16:23
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm going off of, which when I say last year was good, I'm going off of that ship, which I still laugh at that.

01:16:31
Speaker 2: The first time you did it, bro, I don't even know.

01:16:34
Speaker 1: People are still laughing into your next bit and it's like right down, he's going again. Everybody's still laughing from the first joke, but you can't hear the beginning of the next one, and it's like everybody quite down.

01:16:45
Speaker 2: He's keep going.

01:16:46
Speaker 1: Did you laugh during the show in the corner laughing my as Yeah, I didn't see him. I know you came down and you said something like six am will or something like that.

01:16:55
Speaker 2: You hit him with the little down there laughing in the corner.

01:16:58
Speaker 1: It was funny the old tape to JPP just to bottom me one more time.

01:17:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I wished, dude.

01:17:06
Speaker 1: No, he hit me with the cool and it hit me another way, sun me. That was when I got the vrabel we're paying you for this. I thought, Oh, I'm on patch on the back you ship in my hand. Yeah, that was like, those are the things that you're like, man, that camp. But these poor boys, these rookies have no idea when you go out to camp. Those bad plays, when they go up.

01:17:29
Speaker 2: It's gonna be good. Puts you in a fucking blender. It's terrible. Feelings are just reminders. I tell you what. Those are teaching moments. You know how the ego is in the NFL. Here's the here's the moment. Here's a funny teaching moment I look back on. There was an undrafted free agent.

01:17:45
Speaker 3: Maybe it was maybe an ACC school, I don't know, but it seemed like he got paid a little bit of a signing bonus.

01:17:52
Speaker 2: I believe he was on D line at the time. I know this story, and Brave, you know you're in there.

01:17:56
Speaker 3: You're hitting the tape post practice, and everybody's assholes a little tighter, like, man, am I about to make this fucking tape?

01:18:01
Speaker 2: Like you always hate it because you're watching tape.

01:18:04
Speaker 3: We're in the a c. It's easy, like you just you're the you're at your most vulnerable. And this poor soul like either didn't get his hands inside or something he had been.

01:18:13
Speaker 2: He had put a few you got the ship knocked out of them. He stacked a few bad reps or practices together.

01:18:20
Speaker 3: And Rabe's like, you need to go home, back to the hotel tonight and ask yourself if you even want to fucking play this game.

01:18:27
Speaker 2: What it was? I mean, at least at least remember Dickerson as much as you hated him, because he fought every place, but he fought off the field, right, But he fought you. Yeah, and he and he wanted to be there, and he acted like whether he he fought you and the guy he wanted to fight Taylor, he got into it after it, and I was like, Okay, at least we can work with something. At least we can coach that. You know what I'm saying. There's like a passion, there's a fire whatever. That's all we're looking for. And what did you do? What did you do? Were you drafted? No? Right? So how did you act your first couple of years to try to make it.

01:19:04
Speaker 1: Looking grit and spit exact prison rules? Dude, you find the biggest guy and fight them right away.

01:19:08
Speaker 3: Well no, no, I'm not picking on I'm not trying to pick a fight with Trent Williams.

01:19:13
Speaker 2: Well, no, but but yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, hard like that's what you have to do. But this what's funny.

01:19:20
Speaker 3: And you're just like the poor soul like is brave if he gets you for some reps in a road to where he can put a many highlight of you up.

01:19:26
Speaker 2: Low light, yeah, low light of you up. You make it sound like they're all naked. They're not all remember remembers the loss of ray. Take it easy, take it easy, I know, but you're paying this picture just like braves. Listen, you put the highlights up. You say, hey, we like this this guy. That's good technique. So and so that when you ran over, when you ran off the ball and you were strong with your backside hand, I put it on there. No, and I was very grateful for that. Yeah, but you worked at a line of scrimmage, I put that on there. Yeah.

01:19:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is such a dumb rule. By the way I say that, Now, why are we running to the line of scrimmage.

01:20:02
Speaker 2: Because we wanted tempo? Yeah it's temple, but you can look at everybody else that one game I said, we're gonna fucking speed break seventy times in a row. Yeah, and now we're like seventy I'm like, yeah, we're gonna start conditioning right now. We didn't, but we didn't.

01:20:16
Speaker 1: Obviously we didn't do a speed break seventy times. But it's a change the pace.

01:20:19
Speaker 2: You want.

01:20:20
Speaker 1: Let the boys walk up to the line. It's a waste of energy. You see teams that have won the Super Bowl. Every other team doesn't do they they walk up to the line, they get set because receivers got to run out every team. We got time to get up there, and then you do a speed break.

01:20:32
Speaker 2: It's difference between walking, sauntering and and brisk walking to the line. You're not asking yeah, but you're not asking for this walk either.

01:20:43
Speaker 1: Walk You want to sauntered when I first got here, like you wanted everybody, everybody, And then while you're still getting set, we're snapping the fucking ball the mounta. He takes his time with those wreck and heat get I was getting ready to throw my heat exactly.

01:20:57
Speaker 2: But when we had the penalty, Yeah, lost my ship Jets game, no question. God damn.

01:21:02
Speaker 1: That was when I was like, fuck and I have nothing to stand a leg on. Kisses me off because we called Uh.

01:21:08
Speaker 2: He's fishing around in his stands. Well, I don't really stop moving in my stands at all. Remember when you go, remember where you go? Get him? And then Sarah came over and then said, Taylor, if you keep moving your hand and he jumps, I'm gonna get you and I.

01:21:24
Speaker 1: But I've never I never called him, I know, and you did say, hey, you just keep doing what you want.

01:21:28
Speaker 2: But if you get called, that's on you, and then you're done, right, and then you're done.

01:21:32
Speaker 1: But there was never a talk about jogging up to the line. There was nothing that was non negotiable.

01:21:37
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, you get into how Dember he did pay attention, even though it didn't seem like he was the non negotiables. He knows of those, I'm secretly coachable. I know that, not secretly. You come on, well, you're right, Well, I'm doing God's work right.

01:21:50
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01:21:58
Speaker 2: That's late. Brother didn't start, that's starting when I sat down. We're going to time and a half. Boy, you better. But then we had to run with the mic issue.

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Speaker 2: Duke Cannon work Harder, smell better. Get back to this episode. You didn't come to Beer Olympics. Yeah, he hit me to minutes an emergency meeting that was called order directors at Richland Country Club. He was golfing, dude, I know, and you know what's so wild? We went a lot longer than I thought I was. After I finished and I saw it was still going on, I'm like, holy shit, can I even think about going showing up? Like if you would have about.

01:24:37
Speaker 1: A drink, no chance, dude, we would have been You'd have been like I've never heard it was again, carnage.

01:24:43
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we were black. It was wild.

01:24:45
Speaker 1: And the rookies were in a blender too when they knew you were coming, were they oh yeah? Well I'd be like, hey, I like, what up? And I was like, I know, if we we'll talk to you guys. He's gonna come. It's okay to have a drink in front of your coach. I'm going to go to This is the NFL. It's all good pro football, pro football, as long as you guys show up. And yes, if you have a bad practice, he'll probably bring up you drinking at beer Olympics.

01:25:05
Speaker 2: But you're gonna be all right, no doubt.

01:25:08
Speaker 1: And as I'm like walking away and one of them, I'm not gonna say their names, Like I don't even know if I'm gonna drink today, I'm gonna I'm gonna wait till he leaves, and.

01:25:14
Speaker 2: Then mental warfare it is, you have to have it.

01:25:20
Speaker 1: Do we have any finishing thoughts on jogging up to the line, How we can just kind of shut that down. I'm not talking for me, I'm talking. I'm talking for Ruse.

01:25:26
Speaker 2: I'm talking for the nice thing is about them, they don't. Yeah, I'm the voice, I'm their voice. Well it's it's an old voice. There's no more voice. Yeah, it's it's an old voice.

01:25:41
Speaker 3: Did you ever last year think about like, let's let's run it back with.

01:25:48
Speaker 1: Me?

01:25:49
Speaker 2: No?

01:25:50
Speaker 1: You you started to drop some games.

01:25:55
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, what where's the juice that we we were thinking about? Like just a little pick me up, like post Thanksgiving, get get it back up and get you know, it went through your mind having some joke. It always goes through my mind those long November days gets dark early yellow juice in the building.

01:26:15
Speaker 3: You're you know, depending on your mood, you could be PMS in a little bit more than this.

01:26:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just what I sa. It just didn't work out. Yeah, it didn't work out. Yeah, I had to win.

01:26:27
Speaker 1: My options are training at right now boost same spot offs training at when you texted, hey, are you ready to go overhead?

01:26:33
Speaker 2: Or if you had one too many rabbis that's uh just a good crew out there, isn't there? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you talking about Titans guys.

01:26:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, just I'm there guy, Good morning. I don't see anybody who get there early. Yeah, I'm talking wake up at five thirty. You know the deal six am. So that way you get back to the do the dad thing, putting that work in still work? Oh yeah, doing them half gasters or what are you doing? You need me to hit a punt stuff for you? We could do a little workout right off side. Yeah, can need to keep my base a little wider.

01:27:01
Speaker 2: I know. That's what you always coach. You get turned, get turned sideways, like you always talked about the punch.

01:27:10
Speaker 3: I from my skill set felt like I was always better absorbing because like you always made fun of me on my t Rex arms.

01:27:22
Speaker 2: I disagree, like you never want to like absorb when you have to go cover, you know what I mean? Like Taylor if he's playing left tackle, Like, okay, you can give a little ground and you can sink sink. But Taylor doesn't have to shed and go forty five fifty yards now with stony. I just got a hammer leg. I feel you. I'm just saying, like, not everybody's built with arms like that.

01:27:46
Speaker 1: You have, right, but you could still. I mean, baby, baits punched. You got enough tape on me.

01:27:52
Speaker 2: I had. I had four to one game New York seventeen and oh seventeen to nothing. What are you talking about. I'm saying I've never given up a never giving up a block. No, I wasn't saying that you gave up a block. You're like, hey, dB, he he shocks and he does. I was like, okay, you got table somebody who absorbs too, right, But I'm talking about like the coverage. I'm trying to get you out there faster, dbs faster than you. You don got to play to your skill set, brother, I'm trying to flow. I'm trying to let somebody go down there, up and then overlap. Yeah, they they what does it? Shoot the ball? They pull their trigger, they miss it, stops their feet. I got a little bit more to work with. Come in here and clean them up. Yeah, get that tackle, get the statue. So do you really have nine? What's your four to one case is they say nine? It's nine? Yeah, why did you have like a peace squad year or what did you have? Two? It's only nine. You had a peace squad year and then squad year.

01:28:44
Speaker 1: It turns into a credited year after you getsted, so the peace squad does count. Now, after you.

01:28:49
Speaker 3: Get vested, they roll it back and then count the practice squad year.

01:28:53
Speaker 1: So are you counting the practice squad year the time? I'm gonna let you in a little inside ball here. This is not a road you want to go down with Will. Will and I got to do an argument about this. I was like, so it's really eight, right, That's where I'm at right now? Did I agree with you already?

01:29:08
Speaker 2: Match about this relationship with Fuddy? Why do you think eight? Oh?

01:29:13
Speaker 1: Fuck your because it's you gotta go out on the field for I did three game on Sunday.

01:29:20
Speaker 2: Three games.

01:29:21
Speaker 1: I went out on Sunday, one tackle statue, one game that was a thirteen back game.

01:29:26
Speaker 3: You need three games? So you think you need to play three games to be considered. Oh, you play in the NFL for a year. Yes, I think you're wrong. I a wee can agree to disagree. I mean I know what my pension says. It's nine years. You were in the PA, you get the rules, so it's nine years. Because your ego wants to tell me it's only eight. I would argue that a practice squad year is even harder.

01:29:47
Speaker 2: To doing my ego. But like, if I played one year and was one game and I was healthy, I wouldn't be like, I wouldn't count that as a year. Why not? Proud doesn't. No, it's like playing one whole golf and be like, yeah, golf today, logging off.

01:30:02
Speaker 1: The course, that's that's golfing. There's eighteen holes, there's seventeen games. They're gonna played one game and then leave and say I played.

01:30:11
Speaker 2: If you're now, I don't, you'll have to help me out with your Your boys just chirped you. They laughed when I said, if you like playing one home walking off, enjoy this. They enjoy this.

01:30:18
Speaker 3: But I'll say, in the golfing world, if you go throughout the entire year of tournaments or whatever, and one guy who's an amateur gets to play in one pro golf am tournament, they are now considered a pro golfer.

01:30:28
Speaker 2: For that year. No, I don't think they are are you a pro golfer? Fuck? No, you know what I mean? Like you're losing me here. I don't know where your argument is.

01:30:38
Speaker 1: All yours thought you got hurt. Like if you got hurt, all yours is you were able body. Here's yours, you were able to body. No, I don't think that's right. That's your argument, no saying.

01:30:48
Speaker 2: My argument is if I was healthy and only played one game of a season, I wouldn't in my mind mind count that as a season. I would count that as one game. You playing the NFL this year year? Did you play? Yeah, there you go.

01:31:06
Speaker 3: Ray, Did you play in the NFL this year and you played one game and you got a tackle on kickoff?

01:31:11
Speaker 2: I would say kind of. But I was on a practice squad and I got caught up one game. But I mean I really wouldn't like want to like promote that. And I said, brother, don't worry about that. She you got that one. Got that bell, discourage yourself, that Burt Bell into your session plan. Yeah, they'd be proud of it. I don't think I could. I don't think I would say, you're we're looking for year nine. I gotta get a new jersey. No, we don't have to. That's I tell you what we could do. I didn't. They changed me to a deal, they proact. They they went back in retro fit that uh that practice squad thing that wasn't always like that. Are you talking about how they rolled us in? Yeah? Yeah, I don't think that was ever like that.

01:31:53
Speaker 3: I want to say Lorenzo, Lorenzo Alexander was he was somebody that was a fan here for something like that because he had two ex what you're the only count one of them?

01:32:02
Speaker 2: But uh no, that's awesome. I mean for guys that didn't. Once you become vested, they go back and count that year for your pension. Yeah, so nine years looking for ten years we had you do you want to work out? Ten? We had ten? You want to work out? What do you mean, like, do like a workout? You know what I mean? Like we can set up a workout. You're saying, Titans bring me in for a workout or yeah you know, I mean I could go, like, you know, work out a boost, Watch you a boost, See what it looks like in the morning.

01:32:32
Speaker 3: Can we record it and be like this is rave given? Will Compton a private workout for your for the potential of your ten.

01:32:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can put it on the internet extra twenty five, maybe thirty forty whatever. Now it's like out of nowhere for the kids.

01:32:45
Speaker 3: Man, we can we could probably do the kid on that because I think are fine for ten minutes latest twenty five.

01:32:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. It'll be tough to tell you. Why guys that I first late they got a warning letter. You got a mulligan that's a breakfast ball, didn't show up to beer Olympics. That strike one two in community? Did I not community? But still warning? You're still at the warning letter communicated, but after the communicated it was not after Look you know what we got receipts. I'll check it right now.

01:33:13
Speaker 1: If if I get this, if I get this text after twelve, we gotta have a conversation.

01:33:19
Speaker 2: Well, let's go back to this try out real quick. That's right. No, you no, you signed me. You don't have to do here's how we could do. You know, you just sign me no, because I don't think that those legs will make it through the workout. Probably right, you are probably correct. What do you think about these legs? Like you've been working some squads? Hey, that's a good compliment. Appreciate that been grinding. Okay, noticed you work out with anybody or just by yourself, by myself? Do you think you get enough out of it? Are your self motivated enough to to really push yourself like you need to like you did back in Nebraska? Cornhusker Candy, Those are different cornhust Candy.

01:34:03
Speaker 1: Even eleven fifty seven got a call into an emergency meeting at the golf course. So I texted before noon that I'm still going to come into correct now even fifteen Now you know how I feel when dudes text me that three minutes before the team meeting, and you'd probably still send him a letter of But as ahead man, you still got to make a decision.

01:34:23
Speaker 2: We're making the decision, like we don't like.

01:34:25
Speaker 1: To wait outside for him minutes away from me, not three minutes, so you'd have been late regardless.

01:34:31
Speaker 2: I wasn't coming from home, Richland is I was iron home. I know tea time was noon? What do you think about uh one day contract for who? And then what would you do after the one day was over? Like have a formal announcement or yeah, like press conference at the Titans facility?

01:34:55
Speaker 3: You there, are you talking about BEHALFTI a player, I was potential Ring of Honor candidate.

01:34:59
Speaker 2: But somebody who wants to step down. He doesn't like the spotlight. Like fourteen games for us? Crazy how much of an impact I've man now in the community. That's probably why you guys signed the boss. You see free agents that that did pan out because there are examples. Yeah, I'll get back to you. I mean, I think that that's a good idea. We could certainly try to raise money for charity and try to have a one day contract doing Taylor. You're like a little combo platter.

01:35:24
Speaker 1: I'd like to have my own I think Taylor deserves his own moment.

01:35:29
Speaker 2: You speaking for Taylor, you speak for yourself. You're right, You're right. I think I deserve my own moment. Okay, I disagree. Why is that.

01:35:40
Speaker 3: Because you got to, like what, catch seventeen touchdowns and have sacks and shit in the league that they're.

01:35:45
Speaker 2: Like four as much impact as you could possibly make in fourteen games? You did, but you need more than fourteen games to.

01:35:54
Speaker 3: Have a number one. Fourteen games is not that's not You're just saying that I am just more than fourteen However many was it I don't know, maybe in the twenties.

01:36:02
Speaker 2: Do you think it's twenty I don't know. Well, I mean I was you didn't cut me in the first year, Okay, Well, I was just being funny when I said fourteen, they're about to find out.

01:36:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand your humor. I get that you was. You know what, here we go. There's twelve games, twelve and twelve, twenty four, all right, twenty four, Hey, that's worth it. Put twelve together that twenty year Hell yeah, thank you. You thought you had me cutting on the pea squad for a while. Something happened and somebody got hurt and I had to all of a sudden, like do one walk through for Lamar Jackson in that offense. He ended up playing jay On breaks his fucking elbow in the game, But you ended up playing the Bronco game too. But he came in in the Ravens. Dude, you remember that run game? Yeah, Polers, quarterback nuts, just find a guy with the ball.

01:36:59
Speaker 2: That's got to be a hard thing to do, but he did. I give him. I will give you credit now that you told me that jay On snapped his elbow and was like, will where's his helmet. Ray was like Ray was everything he could do, just not give me on the field.

01:37:13
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus God, your locker room guy, guy, Yeah, your place is necessarily on the field.

01:37:19
Speaker 2: It's in the locker room. Out you're a morale guy. Look a gesture. What if we let you do like a bus, like a remote bus and doing it from the locker room. What I do a bust and from the locker room. That's a great idea. But no, I was thinking about inviting you to the office and doing it in the office.

01:37:36
Speaker 1: We would have absolutely done it, but as you told, oh, yeah, access is retired, meet you.

01:37:43
Speaker 2: Let us in security.

01:37:44
Speaker 1: My code will not work anymore comptent and Lawan will be here.

01:37:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was figured I wanted to come see the new digs. Uh, you know, speaking of one day? One day? One day? You excited to speak for me someday where where we're speaking whatever, when I do whenever, when I eventually retire. You haven't no what I'm available. I'm sorry. We talked about the niece. We know where knees are at. Yes, anything you asked me, I'll talk to you. Yeah, I want you to. We're gonna have a party. I want you to. We're gonna have it. We're gonna have a party. We're gonna get Hammred in the fifty ar line of the Nissan Stadium. I sent you my my press release the one time, the one night, and you're like, oh, I don't get a press release.

01:38:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you did say some really cool things about Ben. I kind of did get salty.

01:38:32
Speaker 2: I was in my own emotions about my press release back with some heat, and I love that we're talking about this. Sometimes I feel a little awkward in that chat.

01:38:42
Speaker 1: It's like you'll have me, it's like a buffer, a talk, and I'll just kind of sit there and watch the show, like get the popcorn.

01:38:48
Speaker 2: Out, I don't. I always something like and then I'm thinking the British Bulldogs and I'm like, just the one guy and it's like tag team.

01:38:54
Speaker 3: We're sitting next to each other, right, you don't you do a great job with him.

01:38:59
Speaker 2: You do a good job of the fer You just you do a good job of like you have your own.

01:39:05
Speaker 3: Listen here in town. He took me in during the free agency part of the first year. But yes, I do have my own place now.

01:39:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulation. I have a family. I knew that they all just stayed with I'll just stay at the little one residence. That would be tight. I would enjoy that like beer Olympics every day.

01:39:24
Speaker 1: Man, well, we didn't miss out on a hell of a deal. I could tell it was awesome. What was I talking about the Uh? You're probably talking about some of the group chat.

01:39:31
Speaker 2: No.

01:39:31
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you do a good job of If Will and I start coming at you, you'll go at do a good job of just putting a dead stop on it, which Will and I will then text each other.

01:39:40
Speaker 2: Just one on one about it, I bet. But it's like enough's enough. If I'm going in on one guy, I don't need the other guy. Like I can sight team, but I don't feel like in that situation a teamwork. Really, it's supposed to be like I'm looking for you to enjoy my joke on Will, just like in the event that you would make a joke about Will, I would enjoy it. As the other person you're looking for the three of us four, you're just looking like a little little pat on the back, as opposed to like, I can.

01:40:10
Speaker 3: Respect that braves coming off house. We gotta do something, He's reason, Yeah, I can.

01:40:15
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01:40:19
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01:40:25
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Speaker 2: By body Armor now on Amazon. Back to the episode. Uh, then we got going on a tour. Where are you going to Oakland? Figure it out? By Zick is the homie? You're you're the homie. Where else you're going? You're going to slide in the old Patriots when.

01:42:17
Speaker 1: You guys are in New England. Bill Ward answers, yeah, I guess jan Will Bill do.

01:42:22
Speaker 2: An interview with us? No? Then, like, no chance at all? You think none? Who do you think we would better shot at? Nick Saban or Bill Belichick? Saban? What Saban? You know? Why? Recruiting good? He's right? What do you? What do you think? Like? What is Bill Belichick in your phone? Under? Bill? Daddy is a dad? It's Bill, just Bill, just Bill? Is that the one nickname you hate the most? Bill? Or rabes the nickname mine? Daddy? Baby Belichick? I had never even heard that. Oh, ray, you've heard that. No, I haven't Patriots or Patriots of the South. Yeah you guys Belichick. No, No, that's not a thing. I probably pulled the video up. Yeah, I don't. I don't hear baby Belichick much.

01:43:19
Speaker 1: That wasn't a play on me, Yeah, yeah, not me throwing that at you.

01:43:23
Speaker 2: I feel good though.

01:43:23
Speaker 1: In nineteen playing the Patriots and kind of using rules to your advantage had to be a nice fuck You felt great?

01:43:30
Speaker 2: Whatever we can win big game.

01:43:31
Speaker 1: You're talking about like on special teams at the punt they do, the delayed game, the off sides they and you know, Raves over there chewing on his gum, probably a nicotine gum, fucking looking at Bill's.

01:43:43
Speaker 2: Losing his mind.

01:43:44
Speaker 1: You had to be Yeah, you had to be fucking stoked on that.

01:43:48
Speaker 2: Did that fire you up? Yeah, that was a fire stretchers. Stretchers having a good time and they uh in the in the headset, Yeah, stretchers. That were you getting fired like I was getting fired. Out go on a road and be a big underdog. Dude. You're like, listen, hey, ask us the real mentor. This is a mentor.

01:44:05
Speaker 1: I guy you played for and then worked under and all that. He's known as one of the greatest chests of all time. And you beat him in his own game.

01:44:12
Speaker 2: When we talked, when we talked about going up there, I said, they have lost two games in January and like the last fifteen fucking years. So it was a big deal, you know. I mean, to be able to help the team win a damn game. We've always put the Patriots, well, win a damn game. And also, like you know, Patriots have always done ship going back there. I mean he spent eight years there, you know what I mean. It's like finding the finding the little details in the rules, right, I mean, it was of course it was a big deal. I mean, was Tyler who was able to come Carter was up there, you know what I mean? It was cool fucking that come fine, you know what we want?

01:44:46
Speaker 3: I went the ravee on the sidelines, sitting on the bench, and I look at him like, man, like you want the.

01:44:50
Speaker 1: Raven the sidelines? That's mouth into the dB. I don't even know who the fuck you are.

01:44:54
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh, but you know, talking shit with the boys whatever, Like I just.

01:44:58
Speaker 2: Did it feel good? I didn't know what that one guy was. Oh yeah, that's fair. Yeah.

01:45:02
Speaker 1: I don't know who it was either, but he was talking ship to braves and he just mustache. That's who we want a chirp. He tripped the wrong dude, the wrong one. He didn't come correct.

01:45:13
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't even know who you are.

01:45:15
Speaker 1: I did not know you were miked up one day when we're playing Houston, doing fucking two minutes over and over again all the.

01:45:20
Speaker 2: Half, and what do you want to do? Score?

01:45:24
Speaker 1: Yeah?

01:45:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know how that fucking sounds. I want to go up to him.

01:45:27
Speaker 1: You've seen the clip. I'm like, hey, what's our what are we thinking about this next two minute? We are we like playing regular I'm thinking, are we playing regular ball?

01:45:34
Speaker 2: Are we doing two minutes?

01:45:35
Speaker 1: Because it's only a one score game now and there's plenty Look, yeah I am, and you just go we score and I'm thinking, I'm that's a body.

01:45:46
Speaker 2: I think. I think no one will ever hear that. And the next week it's good. I was like, God damn it. Stretch gets okay all though, so Stretch, How valuable is Stretch? Talk about the fucking flowers? You want to get him on the bus. He won't, he has, he wouldn't, he wouldn't over the bones are buried.

01:46:06
Speaker 1: There's no question. There's no question. He fucking does sit out there right outside your office. He's got no windows, nothing fucking hangs out in there.

01:46:14
Speaker 2: No.

01:46:15
Speaker 1: I would love, I love just watch games, just walk down. It stretches the situational master.

01:46:22
Speaker 2: He is really really good man. Him and I watch a lot of tape together, watch a lot of games. He goes through, helps me put their Friday tape together and things in gym. You miss it, don't you. I missed the Fridays every night. I might send them to you guys. I don't miss that. I don't miss up those faces, like the just fucking yeah. I don't miss that two for one specially yeah, the two yeah, the two for one plate a dish. He didn't like that. I don't miss it.

01:46:49
Speaker 1: Just depends on the day. It just depends on what you're tired, No, if you're pmsing or not.

01:46:55
Speaker 3: No, it was always bet you'll be in on Friday, and then you'll realize like you might come in our Saturday.

01:46:59
Speaker 2: And it's like, hey, right, I mean the way wanted. He didn't get that. Yeah, Thursday night it.

01:47:05
Speaker 1: Was yeah, but I gotta tell him, like, they can't fuck up on Friday, you know what I mean, Your Friday got fucked up so much, right, But I tried to tell him that that they couldn't.

01:47:14
Speaker 2: And there's like somebody's gonna more than got fuck up everybody else's Friday, but nobody's gonna fuck up yours. Right.

01:47:21
Speaker 1: I've changed you have you have, which is kind of what we went to in twenty eighteen. Changed twenty eighteen it was like what braves are we getting today? Because there'd be happy braves every day. Yeah, but at twenty eighteen we weren't that. Yeah, I would say you were all kind of feeling each other out, no question, kind of like that right here, jogging up to the line which I'm willing to go back and talk about if you want.

01:47:41
Speaker 2: No, I'm not willing to have that conversation, It's okay, what did you ultimately do? I went to the fucking line. Was tired of getting yelled at. I'll tell you what.

01:47:49
Speaker 1: I will say this mostly Keith fucking running back all the time that ship would make me so mad. And then another thing, the jogging up to the line in pre pre practice, before the warm up in the walkthrough, I don't got everything's full speed to the ball snapped. It's we don't even warm yet, operation operation operations. We're walking through and I've already done a whole Indie.

01:48:11
Speaker 2: Drill, the full the full stuff. Carter over there, dude wants to rip around.

01:48:16
Speaker 1: The full speed to the ball is snap was designed for your brain so that mentally you were operating at full speed, but when the ball was snap, it was just a light jog.

01:48:29
Speaker 2: And also when.

01:48:32
Speaker 3: People would wear tennis shoes are too much comfortable stuff out on the field full speed until the snap, because it's like then he can say, hey, why don't you work?

01:48:42
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not I'm not talking about that. I'm not talking about like a Saturday walk through. No, he's I'm talking about Wednesday, got you gotcha? It's human outside. And then I've already done an indie and a half plus, we'll walk through going over protection. Then we are new and reviews to keep a calling. Then we go to that and we're like we're jogging.

01:49:02
Speaker 2: A football player complaining, and then.

01:49:04
Speaker 1: Keith goes, all right, that's all right. Keith goes, hey, it is a jog through. But I'll let you guys know, like we have to go just a little bit faster than d line, which you know.

01:49:13
Speaker 2: That's gonna harder than the guy across from me.

01:49:18
Speaker 1: You got to think to yourself, how do they not remember remember Tart's rookie year, couldn't run a play.

01:49:23
Speaker 2: It was a fight every play. Him and Levin.

01:49:25
Speaker 1: I'm like, something's got to give here, guys literally just trying to help each other out. Jog through, stay on side, stay off the ground, and know where you guys are going to. And then ultimately it's just like, how do we fight in a fucking jog? Just go stretch And then we got to go to meetings after and Keith pulls up the jog through, which is fine because we're going over if there's MS or something, but he's talking about how our effort is bad and the jog dude, I'm thinking, what are we talking about here?

01:49:53
Speaker 2: No, I mean I get that, you know. I mean there's certain things where it's like the reason for the jog through was for us to steal reps. Yeah, steal reps and not having to go full speed or live and then ultimately during practice those same plays are going to repeat and you maybe have a chance to fix it or know what's coming or storm alert, ye, the storm winning out, just yell storm alert.

01:50:22
Speaker 1: And then if you're wrong, I said it, movement storm Ali c y at there. Oh yeah, I'm talking games movement because Ben obviously me, Ben me, Roger and Ben would be very will be very talkative, and Ben be like, you know, Nate, he didn't say a fucking word. David Lee wouldn't say word. Nick didn't say anything. It's like, guys, you guys, just be loud. All yeah to do is be loud. Then I think you're doing something on the.

01:50:49
Speaker 2: Jog to the line. I will say, like if you're a defender and you're don't please don't, well it is true and you're a little bit imidation and you see a run to the line of scrimmage, you know, thank you. Depending on the type of team you are. Yeah, coaches kid, Jim Ratt, You're fucking right, Hell yeah, I get that. In the fourth then Cole, what's it called when we fast break? Think about? Think about?

01:51:19
Speaker 3: And obviously the Titans have been good since then too, But when you guys went had the run to the AFC Championship, you're the way the run game is clicking. Or the Ravens that one year when we ended up beating them in the fourth and a jir Derek's breaking all these tackles at the end and you're showing the highlights and then the next week.

01:51:37
Speaker 2: It is like, h Yo, the boys fucking juicy out there.

01:51:41
Speaker 3: Your guys say, yeah, when you guys went nine to seven, you're going into each playoff game once you beat New England. That was kind of the one like as a fan perspective, you're kind of like if they beat them, when you guys beat them, it's like, Yo, they're gonna fucking beat Baltimore, just because a lot of that juice and momentum.

01:51:57
Speaker 2: Like that was a bloodbath too.

01:52:00
Speaker 1: It was an absolute have you line the offensive line and the AFC Championship run? I mean, have you seen better ball? As a Unison. I love watching that line of scrimmage move the same plays over and over again. Zora left. Yeah, just fucking run and I had to hit high tire like six times, you know.

01:52:27
Speaker 2: And then what was it there? What was Brave saying it was a hyenas?

01:52:31
Speaker 1: Yeah?

01:52:33
Speaker 2: Social media dude like put on something about that being the lion or whatever. Taylor called me.

01:52:38
Speaker 1: Brady posted something right that that morning. Yeah, the hyenas and all that, So go ahead.

01:52:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, Taylor facetiming right after the meeting. I guess you did the hyena thing or something. It was just just I don't know, talking about how just juicy it was on. It was a nice fucking.

01:52:56
Speaker 2: That clip.

01:52:57
Speaker 1: Was awesome that that Brady put out and I hit the boys up. I was like, you need the flip this. If we win, you got to flip this, and it was el.

01:53:08
Speaker 2: What else do we have? What a guys? And I got one.

01:53:11
Speaker 1: If you take the Titans out of it, if you're going to coach one NFL team, what team would.

01:53:17
Speaker 2: You want that to be doing that? What do you mean thirty one other teams at one job. I can only coach one team at a time, man, But you know you play Tennessee. I want to I would literally obviously want to see this thing through.

01:53:38
Speaker 4: Man, I.

01:53:40
Speaker 2: We'll get a new stadium. I mean, come on, dude, that thing is going to be sick. So that that that's my goal, you know, I mean, especially in a career where there's a lot of movement, and uh, you know, I'm proud that we've had some guys here that have raised their family. You look at some of these coaches that are, you know, been with us for six years some of them that that's a long time. In a long time, and in any profession, especially coaching. So that's what I'm worried about. Not where the hell else would I want to coach? What about college? We do that? Fuck that, you would never do that because you know everyone says no, like, man, that is ridiculous what they're giving these guys to come before they're even on campus, and like the recruiting year round and the transfer portal and if this guy doesn't start, he's leaving.

01:54:39
Speaker 1: And like, that's a lot a lot because there were a whole bunch of soft, hasn't it. I don't know if it's gotten soft, but it's certainly you got to it. There's a lot of managing, oh hanging Ashlim.

01:54:54
Speaker 2: There's a lot of just uh stuff that you have to deal with outside of football. Yeah, I mean this guy, big nil guy, big take money, no questions. Those guys are driving. If you would have gave me money in college, I would be literally be dead. I really believe. I mean, I mean him too. How was it? How is the nil at Michigan? They're doing a good job? Yeah, I mean we're you know, is it?

01:55:20
Speaker 1: I have no idea what they're paying players, but we see how they're doing right now, we see any I tell you what doing good job. I mean they get that win in Columbus this past year is ye in a row right against a state?

01:55:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, big year Us in three years, big year. We trying to put something on it. We will. What else you got for me? Who are? Give me the three helpest players you've ever played with as a player, played with Brian Waters the last couple of years of my career. See more, Rodney Harrison and so only gave me three? Right, give me give me a couple more. It seems like you're I mean Joel Steed was a nose guard for Pittsburgh. Levon Kirkland uh DERMONDI Dustin was probably low key one of the best players I ever played with. I didn't know anything about nash football. He's got I mean he would reach man reach three techniques. He was a center. I couldn't. It was amazing you can move like that. He could fly. I mean talk about helmet speed. I mean I saw Ted Johnson break a guy's helmet three four defense just you lined up over the guard at like four yards and was like straight ahead, no fair dodging. Jamie Nails, like three hundred and fifty pounds guard for the Dolphins had hit him in his helmet, broke like a big shell. I was like, holy shit, thank God, that wasn't me.

01:57:10
Speaker 3: Uh Seymour Harrison. Are there any stories that you're thinking about, like when you say their names.

01:57:18
Speaker 2: So we signed Rodney kind of like maybe right at the beginning of training camp or something. Chargers had kind of cut him and so it was like one of those early like full padded practices and Kevin Falk ran an angle route or something I don't know, and Rodney like hit the shit out like he hit him. It wasn't like a thought, it was like he hit him. He fell right. He didn't go low or rite. He didn't like leave his feet or hit him in the head or anything. And uh, everybody's like ooh the fans all and Steve Neil, the former wrestler, was like left guard. He runs out. He's telling Rodney, He's like, you can't hit him like that. Dy's like, shit, fuck you got whoever I want? Oh, Coach comes out. Dante comes out and he's like, man, you can't hit him like that. He goes, shut up, I'll beat your ass too, old man. Me and Bruski looked at each other like, holy shit, we got one savage Jesus and we laugh about it now. But like that's how Rodney was, like. He didn't think he did anything wrong. It was covin falk. He didn't like take a cheap shot on him, like he just hit him. Me and brew were like, we got one. You guys had a fucking squad.

01:58:32
Speaker 1: Yeah.

01:58:33
Speaker 3: Any I mean, are there any any Were there any early Brady stories that people might not know about.

01:58:40
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's plenty of early Brady stories people don't know about. What's one they're not gonna oh they're not They're not school for myself. There you God yeah, the smartest from the rafters. Rip it Jap says, who is the smartest player you've ever coached? My vote probably Ben Jones, Max Buller from Michigan State. You had him at Houston. Yeah, really that was out of nowhere. I did not expect just because I remember he didn't take a rep and he could play like seven positions, didn't take a practice. Rap. He was nice. He was nice at Michigan State, but he was just uh, he he could play Mike play will I mean he played like literally every position possible and then take one rep during the week. We just wrap everybody else.

01:59:33
Speaker 3: Ben think then, I mean, Ben's mean just a coach, front office guy him and he's like he's like the bridge.

01:59:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question. Yeah. I was doing a hell of a job for us. Is Luke Soccer. Yeah I heard he's with you. Yeah he said he picked it up. Yeah, what's it like, man, what's it like? He's like different. Yeah, but he's done a great job as he transitioning quickly from a player to coach and he's into it. And you know, is there full time now or is he still be with us drought the season? So yeah, is that something where he goes for like, ah, like O t AS or a few weeks, you can just offer it. He was gonna do the O t as the off season and whatever nine week program and crushed it and offered him a season long opportunity. Would you hire Taylor? No? I wouldn't be good at a coach. I would not do well. Yeah.

02:00:29
Speaker 1: I wear the hell out of the fit. What about just brought to like a console. What if I just come in talk about man reaches? No, why don't we just maybe zoom? Come on, you just walk around walk He's gonna walk around the building.

02:00:42
Speaker 2: I just want to walk around, get my jos the zoom week. Yeah, COVID.

02:00:50
Speaker 1: Tuesday night game against the Buffalo Bills. We did not practice for what eight days the steers. Yeah, so literally like three days of preparation for and then we the shit out of that we did. Was there a piece of you that's like, hey, we don't even need to practice anymore?

02:01:04
Speaker 2: No, not Rabe, All of us. All of us were like we why do we even need to practice? Yeah? Whatever, Like forty minutes reintroduced ourselves and said hey, and then we're like we gotta get out of here. We all thought.

02:01:17
Speaker 1: We all thought we're gonna get blown the fuck out destroyed. Yes, I we got there's no chance we're gonna win. And obviously you're doing a good job. You like boys, doesn't matter any given Sunday.

02:01:28
Speaker 2: Type of speech. You did a good Looms going off, Who gives a.

02:01:31
Speaker 1: Fuck, we'll play them anywhere, We'll play them in the parking lot type talk, and we go in the locker room, were like, we're probably gonna get blown the fuck out and we beat the shit out of them.

02:01:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, you basically just have like the fucking mentality, like we all know the asterisk that comes with if you lose, So it's like there's nothing to lose, right, Yeah, It's like when you're playing it, it's just a downpour and on defense you're kind of like just taking shots because you realize you're just gonna be in there, like, Yo, it's wet as fuck, we're gonna be slipping.

02:01:56
Speaker 2: And it was some turnovers early and next thing you know, they're running out the clock and and and Willie Cees making tackles at the end of the game. Okay, I see what you were you know that what what what was that? Was that?

02:02:15
Speaker 3: A jab dude, fucking we know your humor. Brother, I respect it, I respect your game, don't get it twisted. But uh remember what I remember watching your tongue with me? Brother, we can wrestle.

02:02:28
Speaker 2: We don't have to step out anywhere. We can do that ship right in here. Grabbing that knee a little too much. You've been grabbing that a little too much. I'm letting you know. Will will bodyback you. There ain't a fucking change. I will beat Will's he's he's thinking about it around. I'm not thinking about it. You'd have to get a one tun before I had. I got my wherewithal with me, I think you take ravees note wrestling. If you beat my you come down, we'll fight. And then if you fight, we fight. You can go and do your podcast right in my office. How many at the facility? Yeah? Where else? I saw him game for me? What are the boundaries? What do you mean? Like there's rules? I didn't know if you wanted a head gear no, or gloves or something. You gotta wear mouth beeves. You gotta protect this ship, their things like a sharp dude, Let's hit the twist. But hey, no, when he when he said, got some tackles. At the end of the game when Has came up and it's like, hey, you're gonna go in, I was like, Has, I don't fucking want to go in right now. I'm fucking I'm stiff as a board, dude, it's over, like we want I want to go in there and have some fucking garbage time. But that's just a little side story. And the type of guy you had that year.

02:03:37
Speaker 1: We know, loker room guy. Your place wasn't on the field, your place was in that No. Sometime they're dapping dudes up having good conversations.

02:03:46
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02:05:06
Speaker 2: Right? What's what's the question of today?

02:05:07
Speaker 1: Willy?

02:05:08
Speaker 2: Are you still willing to cut your dick off?

02:05:11
Speaker 1: Or Nope? You guys heard it here first Titans. I'm not going to make the playoffs this year.

02:05:17
Speaker 2: Because I realized marriage is a little better at the Pete. No, it wasn't. The marriage is right. The people been married years, I know, and that just means like you'll figure it out once you guys have been married twenty years. No, that puts you on the map. Dude like that. I would probably I'd cut that finger off. Show them the finger. I'd cut that one off. The wind. Can you lift that thing up all the way down to the knuckle, Yeah, just the part that doesn't bend, just a straight part. I mean, if you can bend, if you can bend the top, yeah.

02:05:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're not cutting your dick off anymore, your own over that I've grown up. Would you get a tax Would you get a tattoo? Yes, saying I love busting with the boys on your low back.

02:06:07
Speaker 2: Oh I like that.

02:06:08
Speaker 1: Uh No for a super Bowl or Super Bowl raves and have to win a super Bowl to like. I would get it in front of the like the boys, like a picture of the team.

02:06:20
Speaker 2: You know, we get raised.

02:06:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've done a lot for you, We've done a lot of your programs. I would get a tattoo I get a tattoo, we design it. Sure, we can design the tattoo within reason.

02:06:43
Speaker 2: I get three choices done, and it's got to be like actually tighten Yeah, absolutely, big mitts. Those are easy mits, Dude, I'm handling that easy. Are you guess? I'm a fighting like fighting fighting. I think that's what he is.

02:07:01
Speaker 3: You know, the whole Ohio brainer kicks in. It just goes into animal mode. It's fire or flight. We know what he's thinking. Yeah, you gotta let it calm down.

02:07:08
Speaker 2: But make no mistake, if we go to the ground, you're gonna be in trouble because you're a wrestler. Yeah, and you're you are old not Yeah, I got no interest in wrestling. Did you wrestle on What's up on? Dan Campbell? In a fight? I mean sure, I think I could beat anybody in a fight, except for like Jeff Simmons had to bring them up. I had to bring them up. No, I mean we battled on the field. Christ who got the better of who on the field? Mm, I don't. I don't remember. Like, if you don't remember, it's probably him. No, I don't. I would doubt that. I mean, did he play all with the Lions or was he with the Dolphins at all? Dallas? I know I played against him once when he was in Detroit, and probably that year against the Giant. We used to scrimmage the Giants every year. He fights in training camp every year back in the day. That's another thing too, you're mixing it up, huh. There were yeah, I mean there the Patriots and the Giants used to practice every preseason.

02:08:40
Speaker 3: You seem like the type that would want to like you're wanting to mix up to happen. You were like that when we did with Washington and Houston. So the first time I was a rookie and.

02:08:52
Speaker 2: Got drafted by the Steelers and it was like hotter in Hell and it's humid down in the valley Latroe, Pennsylvania. And mind you with so many like veteran players on the Steelers, like I'm just trying to figure this out and I'm getting tired, and it's tight end to me. He was start wrestling. I throw them down like whatever. Dumb players were punching each other with a helmet on, you know. I mean it's just like not really doing much. But anyways, so like you always come out thinking that you want, you know, like I want the training camp, but really it just lost because you're so exhausted. The coach is like, no, stay in there, like you're not coming out and go in the next play and you like can't even move. So meanwhile, I've been there for like four months after I got drafted, and Greg Lloyd hasn't said a word to me since the day I got drafted. It hasn't literally avoided like eye contact with them because it's just like, oh shit, that's what. So I'm sitting in my locker and let my head's down. I'm exhausted, and I see this like shadow come over me. He's like, yeah, next time, what you want to do is you want to take your hand and you want to go up on it. Met.

02:09:55
Speaker 1: The first time he talks to me is after I got a fight, Like I had to prove myself to him so that he was I was worthy enough to talk to him, Like Greg, like, you haven't said I've been scared it after you for four months and I finally get into a fight. I said, if I'd known that, I'd have been fighting somebody in April.

02:10:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, just so that you talked to me, Helmet, But was like that was his like, you know, okay, this guy is like worthy of me talking to him, and then we end up being boys, earn your stripes. I guess my favorite would beat Dan Campbell in a fight. That's what I heard. I mean, I mean, I'm taking I'm taking Braves, I'm taking Bready Dan Campbell's. I would hope I'd be like, yo, i' danny, I'm taking you. You did bring up Jeff Simmons, Is that your favorite player of all time? No, it's not my favorite player of all times. He's out there, no where am I at on that lift right outside of top three, you and Taylor are tied. I think that.

02:10:54
Speaker 1: I legit thought I wouldn't even be a top ten. So I'm stoked on that. So FO know, I just sit outside of So I'm back when I thought it outside the top three. Yeah, just like you said you were going on tour and you're going to two places. Well we're going to fall tow or two and there's five stops.

02:11:11
Speaker 2: Because we're on vacation too. VAK Yeah Italy really yeah? Nice? Have you been? Nope, go to Destin, Florida. It's got in Italy. But I said thirty eight at Nashville Beach. Baby, the whole town goes down there. Taylor, you gotta place down there at thirty eight? Will you staying at I.

02:11:32
Speaker 1: Went there for the first time for the fourth Oh well, it was cool. It was hot, a lot of rules and I don't like, but it was beautiful and I really enjoyed.

02:11:41
Speaker 2: You. Are you really going to Italy? Yeah? Nice? There be going two weeks? Yeah, sweet with us, So it'll be fun. It'll be us through out there. What are you going for two weeks? You're traveling around? What? Yeah? We're going to lie like four or five different different parts. And this is about as far as I get because I don't really our trainer stuck there. I guess they shut the airport down Friday. Really one big mic, Mikey, big mic, they shut the airport down. I guess. I don't know. That's wild. Stay out there, I told me this morning. I appreciate it. Guys, thanks for coming on. It was a pleasure. Thank you. You are the man. You guys aren't going anywhere in my life. You guys are Hey, you're you're the guys are stuck with me the painting of the negative, Like you're the man. But I appreciate what you guys have done, and uh, I think probably the most important thing is that you treat my kids well. The boys, Uh, they love you, and uh I appreciate that because I know it's like people always like, oh, yeah, he's with Tyler Player. I'm like, I wouldn't want my son to Player.

02:12:49
Speaker 1: I know when you guys were in the locker room, like, I didn't want, Like, that's not fair enough, Tyler, and people don't understand that.

02:12:56
Speaker 2: And it's like, dude, there's got to be a video, like, I get it. You want to tell my kids. I'm sure my kids think I'm an asshole sometimes too, you know what I mean. But that was the whole reason I was like, no, like being in locker room too, Like you build camaraderie off right, and I don't want like that'd be different. So it was like, but I do appreciate how you guys should treat them. Yeah, Carter gave me a right home one night after after your comedy show. Oh yeah yeah, the comedy show. Yeah he Carter, I really appreciate you get me right home, man, this is awesome. I was like, let your dad know you talk. That was a wild night. That was a fun night. He said.

02:13:33
Speaker 3: It was awesome as far as like the back and forth with Carter and then we can we can get off. But it jogged my memory of we hit the Ravens game happened. Then I get to play the next week in the Colts Trip Fall, have a couple of bad plays that first series, end up getting benched that game to the next day, Carter is in my d MS buying our Black Friday thing to where I send a vis video to where we do our video sending. Yeah, He's like, hey, I want you to say it this way, and I'm literally my head's already in the blender because I'm just pissed that. You know, that's how the situation went for me and my trip. You do all these things and you're just playing all these plays on your head, and I'm thinking, there, there's no way in hell I want to send rabel h Black Friday video.

02:14:18
Speaker 2: Do you remember that? You remember? I know you remember that. I remember I remember to pay for stuff you don't have. I don't do that. Don't do that. You hit us. You'll be like hey, and it's always no, no, I know that was just that order being fucking carter and my money.

02:14:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, spending your money and be like, hey, you have to make this video for your dad. I'm just thinking your dad just fucking what? It was, destroyed me for not understanding Ultra on the fucking goal line. It was just down my throat about it. I was like, he just berated me, and you want me to send him a video. I was like, I'm sure he doesn't want to se me right now?

02:14:59
Speaker 1: What you give up a touchdown or something? Coverage where you the defense came up? Were you the forced guy? I can't even remember.

02:15:07
Speaker 2: I think so. I think so. It was something up the middle. You you were just mad that they scored, all right, because if you're the game I'm talking about like my backup over the carter, Like in my head, is this kid setting me up?

02:15:21
Speaker 1: Yeah?

02:15:22
Speaker 3: Because I'm like, yo, I tripped on the tight end. I fucking don't see something. I fuck up the Ultra for brabes and you want me to send him a video being like, hey, thank you for buying gear on Black Friday.

02:15:35
Speaker 2: It was I remember that too, because you called me and you're like, hey, I'm starting.

02:15:40
Speaker 1: I was fired up and I legit watched that first series I was like, oh no, no, I mean it had to be the same way for me in the Cardinals game. Yeah, I had a it wasn't that bad that it was bad. His game wasn't that bad. Was that the worst game you've ever seen a player play.

02:16:00
Speaker 2: Live? Yeah?

02:16:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you legit think that was shocked at all that whole game. Dude, you literally called me in your office. He called me and he's like, hey, come to my office. I'm thinking I might actually get cut. I have no idea driving. And you were really nice. You were like, hey, I want you to know, like you didn't lose that game. You did not lose this long season. Brother, We're gonna need to get back. Yeah, that was probably the worst.

02:16:23
Speaker 2: I think.

02:16:23
Speaker 1: I was talking to Uh, I saw a tailor and Mike about all the way back from Kittlefest, and I was like, that was the worst day of my life.

02:16:29
Speaker 2: I think there's no question that that was. Like it was like tough for the rest of the Oh, I bet I remember, uh, who was it? Who was the OC? Was it Todd? Todd was the OC?

02:16:41
Speaker 1: And he's like, first play running behind you, like he just there was a couple of plays into high a couple of screens. I had a couple of like plays. I was like a lead blocker, and I remember calling you going to get my IV. I'm like, hey, this this game plan. I got like a lot in it, and I'm still gonna it. Was like the most confident I've ever gone into a game of my entire life. And then after this second years like, oh wow, dude, there's nothing worse sitting in the third quarter just getting your ship pushed in, just hoping that.

02:17:07
Speaker 2: The game ends.

02:17:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, like hopefully you know, there's a lightning and they're just hey, we'll just end it now. You're just like, oh my god, there's really nothing you can do. You look up at Ruse and uh Corey and they're just looking at you back, and you're like they can't say nothing. That was nothing to say. That was rough, but that was really nice of you. I do appreciate that. The conversation we have, well, I appreciate it. I'm happy for you guys. You guys kick ass man. You guys are doing great.

02:17:33
Speaker 2: I'll get you during the bye week. Huh. As a repayment for not making the Beer Olympics and then being late, I have uh yeah, sure, we'll make it work. I fucking love that rapes. That was a that was a from the hip too. That was thanks for coming on you. Oh yeah.

02:17:50
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