Revisiting ECW TV 1994 Shane Douglas Throws NWA Belt Down, Tommy Dreamer Caned 10 Times

The Welcome to the Dead Last Podcast, episode number twenty five. We are
back once again, and it is time to get extreme. Oh maybe not
until the end, but like we start as we get very eastern. Yeah.
I actually really like how they do this. It seems all of this
seems very very real. Yeah, and there are so many moments. I
didn't realize this was like three big moments pretty much in a row. Here.
I said, Wow, this is a packed episode of Eastern Championship Wrestling.
So we do or do not know that this is hardcore television? Yeah,
I don't know. I mean I think it is. I'm gonna say
it is. Well, you're a w W E fucking fucker, so you
wouldn't believe that. Excuse me, the New Generation wasn't cooking yet. Okay.
Four. Yes, Peacock says this is hardcore TV, but I don't.
It doesn't say that on the intro, and like none of the observer
stuff refers to it. Is that. It just says Easter w has TV
and it's called ECW. But well, this is NWA Eastern Championship Wrestling for
the time that we're watching it until the very end. Here August thirtieth,
nineteen ninety four. I would say that there was one like legendary moment in
time on this, but there's actually a few. Yeah, there's a couple.
There's a couple. But the one that probably most people are why we
picked this one is it's one of the legendary moments. Yes, but as
the official rebranding from a NWA ECW two Extreme Championship Wrestling. But before we
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on Maxine the movie, of course, not the wrestler or the other wrestler.
I think Maxine the wrestler. Yeah, there was a couple of those,
right, yeah, I guess so yeah, so yeah, James and
I went and saw Maxine the movie, the part three of the ex Pearl
trilogy, and it's definitely it's definitely gonna be more than a trilogy, right,
I don't know, it's definitely, I mean, like not anytime soon,
but I am sure eventually. Yeah, I mean they it's about spoiler
heavy. Oh yeah, yeah. If you haven't seen the movie, yeah,
you're you know, don't just skip this. So I went into it
thinking it was gonna be a horror movie, and I don't think is that.
I don't think a horror movie is what I watched the first two movies
I could say in my mind, I feel like there were horror movies,
right. Yeah, maybe Bro was more suspense than horror, but it was.
There was some bullshit, yeah, and Maxine James described it very well.
It was it was like a l A Noir cop thriller, l A
Noir. Fucking l A Noir. I don't see that of my fucking house
unless it's a fucking horror movie. Shammed and famned and shalammed by this fuck
movie. Man. Yeah, we were fired up, like we went and
like we went to the Almo draft House, which is awesome, and like
maybe I just went in with the wrong expectation. I think it was gonna
be more of a horror thing. And I think maybe I also kind of
got jumbled on the timeline stuff, and like what I guess in my mind,
I didn't realize that Pearl wasn't gonna really have any involvement in this movie
and it was gonna be all her. I thought maybe there would be something,
but like the Pearls story is just done so like this was all her.
And then Maxine really didn't have like she didn't talk a lot during the
movie, which I thought was weird. The whole tone of the movie is
weird. They're like they Tony, I don't know if you're gonna watch it
or not, so I'm sorry if I'm spoiling shit, right, But at
the fucking end of the movie, like the end of the fucking movie,
I don't care about anybody. I don't care about anybody here. Her dad
somehow has a cult of people that have sawed off shotguns and have never shot
them in their life. There's two cops. I don't I didn't like them
the whole movie, didn't care that they died. At the end, there's
cops watching over her saying, hey, drop that gun. Don't fucking do
anything with that gun. She blows her dad's head off, and then no,
it's cool, She's just gonna go keep making her movie. I was.
I didn't. I didn't enjoy my time. Really, I left disappointed.
Like the movie's like ninety minutes, I feel like, and I'd say
like an hour in maybe less. I was like, oh, this is
kind of I'm hoping this soul pick up here in the third act, and
the third act was like the worst part. I didn't enjoy most of this
movie. Man, Yeah, I just it was it was, I know,
the first two acts. I was like, Wow, this is like
pretty boring, Like I don't feel like anything's happening and I'm not compelled by
anything. It was nothing like one forever. My thought was, Wow,
this pacing is so boring. And I guess maybe my general idea is we
talked about a little bit that the crossing of the wires. In my brain,
yeah, Pearl stories over. It kind of lives through Maxine, if
you want to put it that way, And I think I think that Maxine's
a boring character. I think that, Yes, I think that Pearl kind
of held it together. And like the fact that they were kind of crossing
over between Me and Goth playing both characters was really interesting and made for a
compelling first two movies. I think they definitely probably stumbled into a very good
horror movie for the first one that they probably didn't mean to. It's that
way, yeah, And like it played on a lot of themes that I
thought were interesting about getting older and like things of that nature, and I
think like me and Gos's performances in the first two or like legendary performances.
Yeah, like those are like defining, you know, and like casting Jenne
or Tager right in the middle of her kind of blowing up as like a
scream queen. Like all the things kind of just came into play here.
That worked out very well. I guess, like I didn't hate it,
like it's the To me, it's the weakest of the three. If I
had to, like, I probably say one, two, three, I
like, because that's probably right. Yeah, I mean, the performances in
Pearl is like way better than X. But X is a movie I can
watch multiple times and likes as fun as shit. Yeah, to me personally,
a movie that can watch multiple times is better than a movie that I
really really enjoyed one time, which is why I love Adam Sanley movies.
I definitely need to watch. I definitely need to I probably should watch it
again just to be fair, But I don't know. I think I told
you that when we left, right, I was like, this is one
of those movies that right now we walk down, we're going, what the
fuck is this? And then like we'll see the director's commentary or something and
he'll explain what the fuck's going on, and you know what, this makes
a lot more sense. Sure, but yeah, that was my That was
our general thoughts on it. We didn't hate it or anything. I'm just
boring, Yeah, just boring. I didn't think I didn't think it was
anything to talk I had nothing to talk about when we left. Oh no,
we were like, I don't often do this, but I was like,
I gotta look to see what other people think of this, because I
feel like maybe I'm an asshole. But like I was like, yeah,
I was like, none of this felt good to me, just like that's
whatever. Questioning from that one, guy zero asks where can we watch DPW
play Killer Clowns? That's crazy quick play at four am and hope you get
up with Yeah, which happened. It did happen. Yeah, that was
pretty cool. Y. We were James and I were playing last night and
a dipper. We were in a lobby. We didn't we had no idea
and that we're sitting there and all of a sudden we hear here, you
know, said I didn't hear it at first? Yeah, yeah, And
he was like yeah, I just listened to episode and we played a bunch
of rounds with him. It was fun, it was it was cool.
But yeah, that's our, like that's our, like weird enough, as
funny as it sounds, and it is very fucking fun. That's our,
like relaxed game like that's our. So there's nothing to put up. Yeah,
that's also true that it's the runs over and there's no views on that
fucking game for sure. I mean, I still really enjoy the game,
and I hope maybe if they put out another map or something, it'll but
like it's it's dwindling. They were just sitting there kind of watching. It's
like the Interstellar movie. No, no, no, we've been here for
like all these that have died through the mirror. Man. Yeah, sucks
brutal because the dev's got to play their game. Hello, devs, you
gotta play the game, dude. The fucking being able to just quit whenever
you want and sucking up the lobbies is like it's unreal. That hasn't been
fixed yet. It's still not fucking fixed. Uh why don't they just put
in a bot that's dead if they dc, I don't know, yeah,
right, just it's yeah, it's Oh, it's so fucking annoying, Like
it's so grew up at like five am and like we're just going through lobbies
and like we're playing clowns and like, h killed somebody. Oh they're gone,
like legit, every lobby. There was one lobby I think that had
where James and I had like six kills each, and it was just I
got them. They left down and down and then they come back and then
new people would come in and then rinse rep. Yeah damn yeah, man,
it's fucking brutal. Sorry, I know that was a long wooded thing.
Just I love talking about color Clowns because I love the game. But
yeah, that's just our we're uplad doing bullshit. You should play it though,
play and save the game. Yeah, you can find us like yeaheah,
very easily. User name. She prints not all on my trickling until
I serve on her gumments. Asks very important n C. Question for James,
bo Jangles or smith Fields? Bo Jangles and Smithfields is legit right beside
each other where I live? I have you taken me to the smith Fields?
What is that? No, that's another Oh we've been to city barbecue.
We have been a city barbecue. I regret that was that was with
Yeah, that was with like Bu and Miyuki and they got forty dollars magagee.
Yeah. Man, come on, yeah, hey, I look at
your funny as. No, we haven't been a smith Fields. I can
take you there if you want to go. It depends. I'm honestly like
the easy way to dissect this is that nothing really hits as much as Bojangles
when I want bo Jangles. But if I went Smithfields, I could also
do city barbecue and I'd be just fine. So I'd probably have to go
with bo Jangles. But I will say this much, uh, vinegar based
barbecue ships on Texas Barbecue and all this ship we got. I was talking
to my chap the other day. I was like, I'm about to put
a bunch of barbecue in my suitcase and bring it and show you all what
the is going on bringing the Texas saw dry rope. Yeah, user name
number one B K. Westbrook and Andrew evertstand fuck you. I love that
fucking ship. W W did did Tony have anybody on his deck for the
Fourth of July? Uh? No, I actually didn't even go on my
deck. I went on my front lawn. Bro, what the hell?
I'm sorry about the neighbors and drinking beers talking to the neighbors. You didn't
bring them to the deck, bro, No, everybody's up front. So
we just went out front on the lawn. You know, canna be Are
you grilling? No? I didn't grill either. What the is happening to
you? Just on the front line? You know? You know what the
boys do? Shit? Yeah, James and I spent the fourth sitting on
his porch watching the street fireworks. That was awesome. They were putting running
as far away as possible from him. Dude, Tony, they had like
top tier grade fireworks. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was fucking
fun though. And yeah, cars driving out the street and almost gonna annihilate
it, dude, every time they're popping them off, like they kept getting
bigger. So I'm looking over a giant, like, where the fuck do
you buy commercial grade fireworks that shoot off a show? Are they legal?
There? Did you tell me? I don't know. I've never like whenever
I got fireworks. It was like we talked about the Roman candles and you
shoot him at your friend or whatever. Yeah, like I wasn't buying.
This is crazy. Yeah, I mean they're not legal in Pennsylvania, and
I'm maybe it's the same for you. James were like, it's not legal
there, but it's legal like like twenty men underway. Yeah, like and
you can bring them in and you can't buy them there, but you can
set them off there. I think is the rule year and so probably Oh
they did. I just see uh, North Carolina lot prohibits setting off any
fireworks that leave the ground. They were shooting these bitches off crazy. These
were dude. There was a wave of smoke. James had ash on his
guard. The next it was awesome. Yeah, yeah, what are the
cops could do today? Do ship? The cops will probably watching and oh
sweet, I'm gonna try buying. Yell James for worst trash can is get
an h A violation? Okay, I'm shooting room mechandles in your house.
Use her name, hayes me Goku the dick, the cock Johnson guy seems
pretty strong. I want to fight him someday. Asks, Uh, this
is probably a really obvious answer, but what do y'all mean when you start
yelling something sounding like he's ohezo when matches start going bad. And where does
the phrase come from, Tony, I'll let you answer, dude. That's
a local promoter r P. Jason Strife used to yell he's he's at the
boys when they were going too long in the matches from the balcony, just
yelling at the top of his lungs. He's, oh, he's he's that
as funny as ship. I wish we could do that. We've said too
many people know what that is now, so like, yeah, it was
back in the day. Man. He used to stand up there. It
was like, uh, like Duram Marmory, you tie balcony. He just
stand up there. He's yelling and over the crowd and ship. Yeah at
the boys. Nobody even looked up. Nobody cared. It was funny.
It was right next to the hard camp too, so I was like,
shut the fund. But he's the promoter. You know. It's just another
word for home, I guess writing krney. It's hulk Ogan speak. Brother,
Yeah, it's home and so go home and karney, which means wrapping
up goddamn yeah, which is which is awesome. Yeah for real, Yeah,
last question, here, give me your side, bread, dude asks
how did you guys all meet each other. I think we've probably briefly touched
on it, but I think we can go over it again. I don't
know if I remember how YouTube met Tubby, right, yes, right,
so like was friends with Tubby and then pull James video. Well, James
won the video contest, that's true. Yeah, And I think we were
a stream with Tubby one time, and then I think you got invited to
the stream or something. I think that's how it worked, right, Yeah,
that's right. It was a stream and then one of the for the
win. It was for the win, right, like one of the first
ones I think you did. Yeah, back in the day. Probably,
I don't know. So I I met Tony because Tony rated my stream one
time. Uh, and then we became friends after that and we played a
number. It was before that watched one of my videos of you. Yes,
I hated you in the back of the day. What was that,
I said, I was in the YouTube algorithm back of the day of my
video. I just want to play to you. But yeah, like obviously
I knew of you guys, but like, I didn't become friends with Tony
until after he rated me and then we played like a no Mercy ECW mode
together or some ship maybe do you remember that, like because I have like
a gift for some reason from the video that we did together, where like
it was like Saboo New Jack and it was like a no rope barbed wired.
I was like, oh, this is awesome. We also played,
didn't we play like w W UNO together? We played a lot of Tabletop
Simulator. I remember that in Tabletop Simulator. I think that's right. Yeah,
tabletop s was awesome. James, I fucking had still Rock and I'm
sure. And then I met James. When the fuck did I meet you?
I don't know. Yeah, just come on a stream like one time
when weird doing something. He was just like, uh, formed into best
friends out of nowhere. It was very quick because I you know what it
actually, I'd have been James, which is crazy. It might have been
uh Fortnite? Was it Fortnite? It might have been I think Chris,
and I think Chris may have been streaming it. And I don't know if
Brandon was there or Macho. I don't know if Macho came in later.
It might have been Chris and Brandon and you, and then I got invited
in and that's how like that was the first time we played anything together.
Became like boys after that. Yeah, sure, okay, but you and
Tony wore a new Legacy shirt to an event before we were even friends.
Yeah. I thought y'all's content was very funny and cool, and I was
like, I thought it was very nice. Me and Tony were like,
let's try to get him out here for those. Yeah. So it took
another six years after that he got the old leg the old news. Yeah
that was awesome. Yeah. I think after I saw that, I think
I bought your guys shirts and I would wear no work Yeah yeah, and
uh yeah, yeah, that's so that's how we all met. And look
at us now, that's fucking yeah, we're all as fun. How much
has changed? We just started doing more together and uh have we still play
games together? Yeah, that's true. It worked out pretty well. And
now we now we talk about wrestling and now now we're gonna talk about some
ec W because that is it for the Q and Announce time to talk about
e c W Eastern Championship Wrestling. Qua quaw no, no, we did
that. That was a game. W damn all right, let's get into
Eastern Championship Wrestling Television Regular Style on Philly Local Networks August thirtieth, nineteen ninety
four. They had just got into Florida, I believe to James, let's
go. Let's go as well. But before we get into that, let's
take a look at what was going on in the world of the n w
A and the e c W with the Wrestling Observer newsletters. So this sucks.
Oh yeah, TNA sucks. So this Observer portion is going to be
a double shot. We're going to do some at the top, oh my,
or review the show, and then we'll do some at the end because
there's some controversy coming out of this show. But this is all surrounding the
revive of the NWA, or so they thought, as well as what's going
on with ECW. So from The Observer August twenty second, nineteen ninety four,
the name National Wrestling Alliance, a decade after its fall from being the
most prominent and dominant wrestling organization in the world, is back alive and in
the middle of controversy. Well, the organization doesn't look live, but the
name is back. Meltzer says. The latest controversy around the NWA name in
the World Championship Belt stems from a tournament Todd Gordon of Eastern Championship Wrestling is
promoting on eight to twenty seven in Philadelphia at the ECW Arena. Gordon announced
on his seven to sixteen house show in Philadelphia that he would be promoting an
NWA World Heavyweight Tutal tournament, and originally announced it for Woodbridge, New Jersey,
but after much complaining from his loyal Philadelphia fans, switched it to the
Ecwurea, which I didn't realize it was already called that. I thought.
I didn't realize they said such a footprint there that it was the arena before
was Extreme Championship Wrestling. That feels weird. Yeah, I guess they already
had the mural off. That's what that was, right? Oh yeah,
I guess that's true. Yeah, that's fair. Is that right? That
was the the like the one people take pictures in front of. Yeah,
no, that's like a new thing, okay, which is also in the
men's bathroom. Oh okay, yeah, question, all right, that makes
sense. That just says However, the n w A at this point doesn't
approve of this. The last champion and the last controversy took place about one
year ago. At the time, the NWA champion, one of two so
called world title belts recognized by WW, was Rick Flair, who was scheduled
to lose the title to Rick Rude at the Beach Blast pay per view.
NWA bylaws stipulate that the title can only change hands when given approval from the
NWA Board of Governors. This is crazy which didn't want to go. Yeah,
the board the members of the board which didn't want to go along with
ww's wishes in approving the change. A court fight ensued prior to the Flair
Rude match. Yes, they took a finish of a wrestling match to court
and the NWA was asking in order to approve the switch to Rude, wanting
the right to bring Rud in on another member promoters show and lose the NWA
title belt to a wrestler of their choice. Since the member promoters wanted the
right to book Flair, who they perceived as a better draw as champion,
to work their cards under the NWA bylaws, so they took WCW to court
to try to fight them losing the title to Rick Rude. But if they
were going to give it to Rick Rude. They wanted to be able to
job out Rick Rud on another show to someone else that they wanted to have
the dope. Yeah, stuff stinks, MANUDG hit your marc asses out of
here. I don't give a ship. Wrestling is fake. I don't care
who wins the title, but the nw A get the fuck out of here.
If I was a judge, I was like, Wow, you want
to take the butt off Rick Flair? You fucking great? Did you just
spoil beach Blast? WHOA? What do you mean? You know? Who
wins? Ultimately, w c W prevailed in a court fight with the n
w A, so Rude didn't have to drop the title to a wrestler.
The n w A boards choosing the craziest shit I've ever heard. Go to
court and who's gonna win the match? Object, Sure he's gonna draw.
Uh. Todd Gordon, working with Crockett's blessing and in fact claiming that Jim
Crockett himself requested it. Who is of course on the nw A board,
UH, decided to run a tournament to create an nw A World Heavyweight Champion,
reviving the title once again. Gordon said he was under the impression it
was approval given by the board when Crockett made the suggestion to him. Others
claimed Gordon never sought out approval from the NWA board, which controls the title,
before making the announcement. Either way, NWA sources tell us as a
press time, Gordon doesn't have approval to create an NWA heavyweight champion. So
even if Gordon doesn't get approval, well, even if he doesn't get approval,
he said, he's still going to run the tournament and use the name
anyway. That's awesome. You know, it's really crazy. You know what's
really crazy is that, like all of this is happening in ninety four and
they're trying to do they're trying to set up the same system now like they
are, yeah in twenty twenty four. Well, and they tried it again
in like twenty ten, remember when like Cabana and like Adam Pierce. Yeah,
and the dude, what was that Bruce Thorpe or whatever, remember Test
said FUNWA Invaders of the Nujipid. Yeah, killer least that Conway big Daddy
Yum yummy dude, holy wow. Yeah, that was a great era on
you stream. Dude, Yeah, Bruce Tharp Dezukba has said vans in the
U stream chat. Yeah, that was a stream era fucking on apes.
Everything off. This horrible fucking shit from The Observer, August twenty ninth,
nineteen ninety four. The tournament to recreate an NWA World Heavyweight champions schedule for
a twenty seven in Philadelphia seems at press time to have been given official NWA
sanction. Well after a week of haggling back and forth, it appeared the
tournament would go on despite not being approved by the NWA Board, which holds
the decision making power for the dormant title and dormant organization. According to Todd
Gordon, he had reached an agreement with Dennis Carluzzo, who would appear at
his show, which, along with Jim Crockett, would give him the two
necessary votes out of the three board members to sanction the tournament to recreate the
championship. Dude, this is so fucking annoying. I don't know why Todd
Gordon gave this much of a shit about the NWA title just to rip these
guys. Yeah, I don't either, crazy, Yeah, he was locked
in the Carluzo who has yet They wanted to sit on these guys. Carloso,
who has been pushing get Smoky Mountain, Triple A and IWC to join
to make an internationally credible organization, was pushing for a different wrestler to win
the tournament. They wanted Chris Binoi to win the tournament other than who Todd
Gordon had picked, which Meltzer doesn't know here yet. As a Friday,
it appeared the sides had reached an impass largely over the issue who win the
tournament. In addition, there was an agreement, sorry a disagreement between Carluzzo
wanting promoters using the champion to give the champion a five hundred dollars per appearance
guarantee to give the title prestige and make sure larger groups wouldn't be able to
easily sign away the champion. Uh. He also wanted a contract giving all
member promoters rights to use the champion and making sure the board was legally protected
in the instance in the champion refused to lose the title when requested. This
is fucking unbelievable. All this bullshit for this dead ass title in ninety four,
dude, what the fuck? Reportedly, there was a verbal promise made
that they would be put into writing this week before the tournament that the eventual
winner would drop the title to Benoa, although Gordon's booker Paul Hayman reportedly told
Carluzzo they'd steal been Wah as they had Sabu and Terry Funk, whom Carlozzo
had been using and don't work dates in the area for him anymore. I
mean, like, wrestling politics are fucking so stupid. We found out more
and more as we've gotten more into wrestling, but this sounds like the biggest
absolute pain in the ass of all time. Their idea was to just like
rebrand the NBA with that title, Like just wherever the title was, that
was the NBA, Like that was the brand. I guess. So yeah,
Like they had a bunch of promotions that would work under the NWA,
like they wanted to try to do I guess territories again. They always are
trying to do the goddamn territory. Okay, stopes uh. So that is
it for this portion of the Observer. We'll have more at the back end
of this. Sure it goes well for the NDBA and everything is good at
the end of the night. Yeah, I mean like n w A for
fucking life, isn't that right? Wright? All right, let's get into
the opening here of Eastern Championship Wrestling's TV show. We got Doink the clown
versus nine to one one, dude, immediately right away, no opening,
nothing, just straight in the match. How is that? And Joey Styles
is like trying to stop people from flipping the channel because I guess what was
Doinka ratings? Killer? You see doinkit? The show is gonna be good.
D He says, don't don't adjust your television says this is e c
W and that clown is in the wrong place. Ring announcer Bob Artees introduces
the wildcard entry Doink on the crowd boost. So, yeah, this is
I guess two wildcard entrance into the n w A title tournament. But I
don't think they say that. They just say wildcard entry. Yeah, paul
E pig one right, that's right, do mention there's a tournament match.
I don't know if I knew what it was for, but it was a
tournament for something survival, yeah, death. Yeah, Paulie is with nine
one one and Doink is was he eating an apple or something? Yeah,
he's eating that orange Yeah, banana with skin, I'm sure, And Joey
Stoule says, oh, did he take a wrong turn on the Jersey Turnpike.
He makes a lot of Turnpike and ninety five references here. Yeah,
I guess that that's real big with the people in Florida least. This is
the real Dork the clown, real. This is Matt Bourne, real,
real Doink. I thought, you know, they've so many fake doinks.
This is a real one though they want you to be fake do more like
Dork the clown and ship it should have been Dork the clown. I'm as
I didn't say that on commentary. Actually yeah. Bob Bartees introduces mister Paully
Dangerously and Joe Style says that Paulie has dealt with enough clowns in his career.
Holy fuck you w c W and or not whatever we like w c
W. Bob Marties introduces nine one one and immediately Pauli signals for not he
like pantamimes nine one one doing the choke slam to Doink, as if nine
one one had any other plan to any other time other than the choke slam.
I imagine I like to imagine that his brain is like totally wired to
not do the choke slam until Paulie says, you gotta do the choke slam.
He says, ah forms in to the goosel he's about to put on
like a Masalata classic in his fucking brain, and then he says, choke
slam. Chokeslam. Oh my god, they hit the true potential of nine
to one one. Maybe that's what Big Vin has. They just say choke
slam. Uh so, yeah, he calls for nine one one to choke
slam doing immediately, Joe Style says, it seems like Paulie is going over
the game plan with nine one one, which is very simple, grab the
clown and choke slam him, which is then followed by the crowd channing gill
of the clown. Yeah ws. He says, ship, come on,
man, I mean hell no. This is not hell no. You got
to kill this clowner. Let's play to kill the clowns as humans kill the
clown and we very easily do yeah every time. And there's no don't be
afraid of clowns at all. There's no reason to be. So he runs
straight at nine on one and nine on one, choke slams them. How
the fuck did that happen? I like to think they called this match.
He said, what are we doing now? He said, joke slam?
He said, what is a joke slam? Is that it? And then
what? Oh? Slam? One more? Oh? Yeah, like probably
three of them and then I win? Okay, cool? I get paid
the same or yeah, yeah, you get paid more, paid more.
Yeah that's right. He does not pay it more, but not on one.
Goozle's doink off the canvas picks them up. Uh, and choke slams
his ass again, and Joe Style says, I'm supposed to be objective,
but this guy doesn't belong here. You want to be a clown? Take
ninety five back to Connecticut. That is a great line. That is unbelievable.
Yeah. So uh, he chokes slams and pins him. Polly grabs
the mic and he says, this ain't no freaking circus, this shit w
dude. They show that in like every East of documentary ever. Yeah,
I mean it's a pretty legendary line, especially if this is gonna be the
first episode where they become extreme. Yeah, yeah, that's I mean,
that was a statement. I didn't realize that that clip was from and it's
never that, it's just this is he. I said, Oh shit,
Okay, I mean crazy, crazy way to start a show, though.
Yeah, I mean it was cool. I liked it. Yeah, no,
I enjoyed it a lot. I love the idea of nine to one
one. I think that's a great gimmick. He is awesome. I yea
dude that everyone wants to see come out and choke slam somebody. He doesn't
have to do anything but that. That's awesome. It's like Dark City.
Yeah, it pretty much is. Yeah, it's pretty cool. And he
wins tournament matches, which is crazy. You'd think you would to even be
in sanctioned matches, but I guess he is. I mean giving him a
title might not be a horrible idea. I mean his match his matches are
probably the most like unpredictable ones. I mean they predict he's doing the chokeslam.
But the one time that he can't get it, oh shit, So
we get the Eastern Championship Wrestling intro. I don't know if I've ever seen
this. Yeah, I mean the text is crazy. This is a very
this is a very ninety four pro Graham. Was there anybody that stood out
to you in this intro? There was one guy he might have been the
sexiest man, dude, crazy fit and he is the sexiest man in the
world. I mean, like, you can't deny it's his name. There
was also mister fucking Hughes was in the intro. Yeah, what they call
him the roughneck or something. Yeah, someone he was like Shane Douglas manager
or not he was, Yeah, he was at some point and then I
think Shane Douglas said I fuck it. Yeah. So in between shots of
mister Hughes and the World's sexiest man, Jason, there's like Sabu jumping off
of shit and falling on his head. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I
mean like, yeah, that's kind of why I tuned in for. Let
me see this sexy as dude. The Taz mediac. There was a table
on somebody or something. I don't know it was Taz maniac man that is,
it was the Taz Vidia. Good for him to fucking get out of
that. Yeah. So we have the Joey Styles introduction here. Joey is
in front of a very nice nineties backdrop. Wow, it's like super not
the e CW one like this is just a plane backdrop, probably not in
someone's mom's fucking basement. This looked like if you were to go to onboarding
at work and you had to watch the video. Oh shit, yeah wow,
it'd be like, Hey, I'm Joey Styles. We're glad you're working
here at ECWLLC. I have to watch one of those every time I fly
somewhere. Yeah, exactly what it is. The backdrop was like school pictures
backup, you know, the little back Well. Joe also so proper and
nice. He looks like he's gonna go a school picture. He looks great,
he does nice teeth. Second sexiest man in the world. Well,
you know, he can't beat the best. So the crowd is chanting e
CW, and Joey keeps looking back and stopping talking. He'd look it back
and look it back, and Joey and yeah, that's right, because the
interest is that he's trying. He goes to say NWA and then he says
walk on the Eastern says ah, this whole situation will be self explanatory by
the end of the program. But this is ECW and tonight we crud a
new NWA World champion and yeah, and there's gonna be a Singapore cane match
tonight. Also, dude, Okay, I had no fucking idea that this
was on this episode. I thought this was just the Shane Douglas episode.
I didn't because that's that's a huge ECW moment. Yeah, it is huge
moment. Joey then smiles at the camera and it sticks on him for a
solid ten seconds. I think I got a screech out of him. You
said it over. It is so funny. I'm tweeting it right now.
It's very all. This is very early nineties, so it's it's kind of
cool to have a time capsule of like this era like this. So,
yeah, Joey is still not I get. I mean, Joey was always
a straightforward guy, but you can tell like he gets E CW I very
soon after this. Yeah, his commentary is still pretty much the same,
other than like the naming of the moves, which he kind of adopts later
on. Sure, but yeah, his his pre tape like early or is
definitely different. Yeah. Absolutely, So we got to a pre tape here
Sandman with Woman attacks Tommy Cairo and Missus Peaches with the Malaysian stick. Crazy.
Tommy Caro is gonna push bro. He was a Jersey legend, Tommy
Cairo, I'm pretty sure. Uh yes, So Tommy Cara got the ship
rocked like crazy by Sam here. Yeah, I mean he had a gun.
I mean once he doing Missus peachs alone. Uh so they said.
This is during the Michael Bay controversy where the Singapore caning thing was becoming a
thing, and uh Salmon and his seductive manager woman demolished Tommy Caro and Salmon's
estranged wife, missus Peaches with what you said, the brutal Malaysian stick.
So Samon earned a title match against then TV champion Mikey Whipreck. Mikey and
that match accidentally bumped into woman, which meant that it was time to beat
the fucking shit out of Mikey Whipwreck with a Malaysian stick. They fucking fucked
him up. Wrestlers tried to come make the save, but they kept getting
the rest is kicked until Tommy Dreamer in the Suspenders carry out. He's an
American man on ball, He's the He's the third sexiest man in the world.
Here is next to of course, Jason and Jersey does. Look,
I mean, he's got a good body on him here, right, I
mean, so yeah, Dreamer comes out to make the save. He gets
the better of the sad man woman Cane's Tommy in the back of the head
and then unbelievably whiffs and Kane's Salmon in the face. And then woman,
this is like the best slap I've ever seen in my life. She slaps
the shit out of Tommy and then she's not done, so she starts like
fucking paintbrushing back and forth, slaps. I was like, this is awesome.
Dreamer goes to punch her, but instead he grabs her and he makes
out with her. And that's a common theme with this fucking angle for some
reason that Dreamer just keeps making out with this girl. Well Samon's not happy
about that. He came Dreamer right in the back of the head and kills
him with that Malaysian stick. And then there's I don't I can't imagine this
is what it looked like on TV. But there's like a it's supposed to
be like a freeze frame of woman lighting Salmon's cigarette, but it kept jittering
between two frames. Woman tells Salmon that she wants Dreamer, and Simon says
dreamer. You want Dreamer for woman says, I want to just uh he's
got this fucking scenetes hanging out. Yeah, cut himself. So I was
like, cut way too fucked up the dude. I tried to cut a
shirt like a month ago like that, like cut the sleeves off. I
sucked it up. I was just like saying, was out. That happens
a lot to we try to you ever do like the cut the shirts and
then like it get caught on the door knob and it just rips the funk
out of it. Tony, I still don't know how to cut shirts like
that like I did. Yeah, then try to cut it like sky Hall
and then it looks crazy, you know, like all the way down it
does look like that. Yeah, because I thought it was cool, but
then it's all funked up. You know you want to shirt? You are?
I love you want to Wow, I'll get you Dreamer, give me
any show that's his pages, my wife? You know what, Tommy go?
You know what Dreamery? No d Q see what you want to get
Easter? Oh fuck? What damn? What is it? I nevint fuck
up a seed. That's a detail. That's crazy. D p w one
the my Dall's deadlock. Well it is live and different. I got my
ticket. So Salmon says, you see what I put him with? Tobby
Dreamer. She wants, she wants, and she wants you bloody beaten,
and I'm gonna light your butt up like a Christmas tree. But yeah,
but and then Salmon woman woman Woman lights Salmon's cigarette, and woman says one
lit, but deserves another for the worst kiss ever. Oh by the way,
uh so I watched the original version of this. Uh oh you watch
the recy dub Yeah, cocked out over here boys? Oh yeah, oh
yeah, let's go peacack you but watch see that what's gone? You know?
Why is that you want to watch the ws? Like two people just
say we're talking about Yeah, I don't even like said that video? Yeah
I don't. I love Rule by Lenny Kravitz was played in the background.
If you know that song, I love that song powers. Yeah, they
must have had like some extended version of that song. As Lenny Kravin is
going on tonight, I put who over Lenny Kravitz and missus paces. Yeah,
so that's all this chime in because I'm gonna miss that stuff. Oh
yeah, that was pretty awesome. You know the Lenny Cravis playing in the
back, it was, uh, you know, because there's a love that
Yeah, hell yeah. They had to be aboard to prove that no one
showed Lenny Kravit is that Lenny Kravitz. Yeah, it's a good song,
Polly. It actually keeps playing, I think Tony through the whole it does,
it does, and then they do the live event promotion where they like,
you know they're coming to Florida. If you knew that, if you
knew they were dates stuff, all the dates, like where are they going?
Bro, I don't know? Yeah, me neither, because I wasn't
reading them. I won't tell you. It played so it like the saxophones
on this part. Tony was awesome, go crazy way saxified. Just bomps
up. During the live events, Brobo walks in front of the green screen.
Hey what are we doing? Well, you're in Florida. Salmon finds
out the dates by watching the show. If you watch and put the green
screen, that's actually that would actually be awesome. Wow, yeah that's a
great gimmick. Actually, that is good. So we get a commercial for
Carver W Reid of course the U c W pawn shop. That's awesome.
In all the chaos and confusion with all you have put up with, in
one place you can always get help Carver W Reid W Man. It was
real crazy, like all the high prices of bills and taxes and all the
other ship that you killed. Well Dangle, Kevin ash and Chris Hanson are
coming and you do tax r Jordy George, you do text man. So
now it's time for Sam Man versus Tommy Dreamer and a Singapore caning match.
Yes, the loser. It's ten shots of the Singapore cane. Which is
this is like a big fucking moment, man, it is. This is
like, uh, Tommy Dreamer's career started pretty much started here, and uh
he got a thirty year plus career in this business simply because of this right
here, off this moment. Yeah, I mean that's probably true. So
Sam and versus Tommy Singapore caning match. Tommy HoTT starts here and hits a
spinning heel kick on the Sam Man because they've been going at it for a
minute now. Sure, A fan puts his chair up and Tommy smashes Salmon
into it. Then he swings a chair at the turbucle post and he misses.
He hits the turbacle post, but then he decides he's gonna use the
back of the chair and then hit Samon with Anyways, dude, he swung
it backwards, hit Salmon in the back of the head. I said,
I don't know if I've ever seen that, Tony, Oh my god,
I forgot he didn't see this part. I thought you. I thought of
you, and I saw this commercial. But is that bad? No?
No, you're that's that would be right. So you go to commercial.
Are you balding? Oh no, you want to look like Carlos Boozer on
the Bulls. We have a product for you, his dead hair. Plus,
I have never I this is a joke that I thought was like funny
until I realized it's a real thing. Wait, what real terror in a
can? So you spray it onto your hair like your balding spots, and
it like the technology like connects to your real hair. This is what they
tell you. The science is like. And so the spray connects to your
real hair strands and then makes more hair and it looks like hair on your
head, so he's got who do they say you would look like, Oh,
they didn't say that, but that's what I'm saying you Like Carlos was,
I was like, isn't he not legendarily? He looks great, I'll
send you a picture. Great, but yeah no, So like I have
I like this was a joke or whatever, and like you know, like
the hair hair hair hair and a can. Yeah, like seeing it and
like you had to buy it and it was like twenty dollars plus and people
thought it was it working. It's so crazy because it's like he has like
a bald spot on his crown and then he just black spray paints it.
He's like, fun, I have is to hair. Plus, I'm gonna
start doing this on my pubes. I guess I could do that too,
just the black spray. You should have used it on Hogan when he instead
of bring out a spray paint, can you bring out this gold for he
gets him a line up, they just give gold for really next to gold
over the hair. It all comes together. That's perfect. It's just right
in the middle of this. So this match here you get ten lashes or
whatever? Are you bolding you? Want you want to. I don't know
what it was awesome, Yeah, it was crazy cellar. Yeah, so
we got back to the match here, Tommy Dreamer hits a DDT, but
Samman pokes the eyes of the ref on the way down. Yeah okay,
so yeah he's in DDT position, Salmon flails his arms and the referee walks
into his fingers Styles himself in the eyes. Joey Styles says, the ref
didn't see the d DT. I'm sitting here wondering, like what was that
matter? So, uh, yeah, woman hits Tommy with the Singapore cane.
Uh and Saman hits a DDT to win the match. Fuck, everyone's
using a d DT, dude. I mean it's over, I guess or
not. Yeah, So all that mattered in this era of wrestling was what
was the finish? Like what actually happened to match itself never really mattered too
much. It was more so like the crowd just wanted to see what are
the repercussions of what we're doing in these sure yeah, which is yeah,
and it's it's the whole show. I mean, like even like you see
like the tournament matches that the show later on a little bit of it's just
what's the finish, what's happened? Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure and
which So it's a stark difference to uh even just a few years later.
What did you think of, like the rope color scheme here, it's like
yellow turnbuckles and then red, yellow, and blue ropes. I chalk it
up to this is what everything looked like in wrestling in the nineties. It
had to have been, right, This is like w CW style like branding
on everything like that old NWA look like this is just WA. Might be
a good shout because that's what they were, right, Yeah, like a
legit until it's weird thinking about it. But until like w c W Nitro,
like branding on the stuff was like we got the red, white and
blue colors and we got the wrestling boxing was like that too. Yeah yeah,
like Nitro, it's like the first one I can think of that like
really changed how everything looked when it came down to branding the wrestling stuff.
It was very cool too, dude. I didn't realize this until recently when
fucking Osprey tweeted about it that like wrestlers don't like all black ropes because they're
hard to fucking see I didn't realize that. Yeah, I guess maybe if
they're too dark. Sure, like if they just get lost, I guess
probably the lights too, you know. But like I was like, wow,
I never thought of that. Probably off the head, that was nuts.
Yeah, but uh, Todd Gordon, the commissioner, is here,
and uh he says, we're restarting the match because fucking you cheated, you
piece of shit. Fuck you dude. Okay. At first, they like
wrestlers were coming out to ringstid. I was like, wow, this is
pretty gnarly. They're having the wrestlers come out just because they want to watch
Tommy Drupi get caned. But they were actually arguing against it. I said,
oh, okay, that's that's the opposite today. Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, Todd Gordon said we could restort this match because woman interfered,
and Dreamer says, Todd, I signed the contract. This is ECW get
out before I cane. You'r ass. I'm taking the cane. I'm a
man, bro. He's gonna take it because he's a fucking man. He's
a man of his word. He don't give a ship. He lost,
So Dreamer he pulled down the suspender straps, which is also still a crazy
look. No one has ever adopted that badly enough. Yeah, it is
a crazy look. At the time, he looked like he should be serving
beers or something at like a pub, be in like bush gardens or something.
He's a Chippindale's dance. Yeah, he looks nuts man. So he
walks the ropes with his back to the Sandman and dude sannmn is winding up
crazy. He's about to hit an unbelievable home run left field cast. He's
fucking knock one out here. Well, woman gets on the mic and she
says, this can all end right here and all. She changes this a
lot, like she has a lot of different rules here throughout, but at
start here trying to bargain with this dude, and he's just like not listening
to it. It's funck That which not really the craziest thing she's asking for.
She didn't like ask him to jump off a ninety five. Yeah,
well, he's still got his respect, he's honor. Yeah, that's true.
That's true. She says, all you have to do is get on
your knees and bow to me, and you don't have to take these ten
wax and Dreamer says, fuck that, Sam Man, Yeah, please just
take me out, and Samman starts he fucking cracks him with one shot and
the crowd cheers like, yeah, that's awesome, it's awesome. Then woman
gets on the mic and says, Dreamer, you don't have to go through
this, Dreamer. All you gotta do is get on your knees and kiss
my feet. Hey yeah, not like this all string right here, dude,
it's actually pretty nuts. Get on your knees and kiss my veet.
I know many of men that would choose this option, but not not Tommy
Dreamer. No, because he's he's got too much pride. He's got too
much pride, and he's not a pervert. I guess I don't know.
Man kissing woman idiot. Yeah, Dreamer says, why don't you get down
on your knees and kiss my ass? And Sam says, well, you
can put my balls on a peter bread with some ha he that's a face
and uh Samon kinge's the ship out of him and the crowd goes, yeah,
that's that's cool. I like that, and woman says, come on,
big boy, is that all you can take? I can stop this
right now, and Dreamers yelling at Samon sand is that all you get?
And Samon fucking cracks him again, and the crowd is a little less excited
now they're like a ship balls on the bread Oh from this angle a face?
Hey, what know what are you talking about? I thought you're yeah,
I'm hungry the crowd. The crowd's not as into that third shot and
Dreamer pulls himself up. Woman still talking ship dude, dream Joey Styles is
begging Dreaming to stop, and he's No one's gonna call you a pretty boy,
You're a man. Just kiss her feet. Tommy Ship Salmon's now smoking
a cigarette and he fucking lights Streamer up with another. The crowd is now
awkwardly quiet, like through the rest of these shots, like he's getting hitten.
You can hear so much of the cane shot and Dreamer going ah and
the crowds just like he's kind of fucking sapore stick afraid awesome. Someone needs
to make that dude. Dreamer is bleeding. He's fucking bruised the ship.
Paul Hyman tells you the crowd was like going bananas for this whole segment.
By the way, this ship the crowd was like, hey, I guess
bananas in reverse. Yeah, sure, Nana got whatever. Woman says that
you can stop this or or I can make him hit you again. What's
it gonna be? And Dreamer fucking takes an He's give me another and same
and cracks him again. Todd Gordon's on the outside. Stop a woman says
he doesn't want to stop the commissioner, but all he's got to do is
get on his knees and beg, which is also different, kiss my ass,
kiss yours on my knees because you're ass. Stop oh man. Yeah.
So Dreamer takes the mic and he says, thank you, sir,
May I have another. That's the only one I've ever seen from the documentary
is that one shot. Thank you so much. I have another. Samon
fucking cracks him. This is I mean, this is fucking gnarly. Really.
The little part on the window, the little cover thing that's slash back,
that's what slashing his back. I think we're right nine now. He
hits that's right nine, and there's one left, and Salmon says down his
last year. Well you do it well, Dreamer yells at him, give
me your best shot. Salmon goes all the way across the ring and full
sprinted Dreamer and hits him his heart as he can with the game. That's
me and the games. When I get bored is swinging the thing. I'm
like, I'm gonna spread at him. Now I'm gonna run and yeah,
use the share and here comes the pain and you do it. They take
the big bump that back. I love that bump. Yeah, all the
weapon hits and here comes the pain. We're actually very satisfying. It's a
good game. It is a great game. Uh. So Dreamer pulls himself
up. He is fucked up, he's bleeding, he's bruised. The crowd
is quiet as ship, as awkward as fuck because everyone just saw dude get
his ass beat to death. Uh And Dreamer gets in sad Man's face and
they talk about this on the documentary Dude, duney, I feel like this
part here where he gets in his face and Saman's lip was quiver and he
was so intense. Oh my god, they talk about that. It was
just hot. Yeah, dude, I'm fucked was having a huge Yeah.
What he said is probably right, Dreamer says, is that how you I'm
still standing, what are you gonna do? I took your best shot,
and Joe Styles is flipping out, and Dreamers still standing, what guts by
Tommy Dreamer? What a man? Tommy Dreamer belongs and he's gonna be not
like fucking Dike. I fucking Dreamer turns his back to Samon to walk away,
and Samon fucking hits him. He just cracks it over his fucking head
and then he lights a cigarette and leaves, and Dreamer pulls himself up and
he's standing in the ring and the crowd fucking standing over for Dreamer and chatting
for Tommy, And like James said, this is a this is a turning
point in Dreamer's career for the rest of his fucking life. Yeah, that's
real. I mean crazy segment though, man, I mean, like that
is again, good on him for willing. I mean, I don't know
if he pitched it or whose idea was, like that is I mean,
this is a crazy segment for nineteen ninety four to think about it in the
content of that. God, Mike, you know this is on w c
W. I mean, like, what the fuck? Yeah, this is
this is awesome. I love this segment. This is tremendous. Yeah,
this is great. Yeah, no, I mean this is I mean,
this is what Paully was really really good at, I think is being able
to create these moments with these characters. And uh, he was really good
at like keeping the same This is the hardest part of wrestling. You can
you can bring in a hundred thousand guys, but being able to use the
same guys and still rotate them around to like do new ship is a very
special skill and I think that, uh not a lot of people have that.
You know, and dude, these are two prime examples of that.
These dudes are around for another fucking like seven years on the show. Yeah,
when you're over, you're over. So like, once you get someone
over, it's hard for them to not be over anymore. They have to
really dry, you have to really fuck something up. Yeah. Really.
You can bring the stars of n W a Eastern Championship Wrestling to your hometown
called the ECW Hotline. Oh shit, I think the Peacock too. You
can. You can raise money for your local charity by bringing in the superstars.
It shows Saboo running head first through a table. You can raise money
through a work at Jarney seven Star then w A, I guess, yeah,
I guess so I don't know what the fuck was going on there?
Yeah, that was crazy. Well I can bring in my birthday party.
No, you like, Let's say you want them to come in to Philadelphia's
I know they already in Philadelphia. But North Carolina. Let's say you want
okay ECW to come there. You can book them and they'll help raise money
for your charity. You used to put on your own ECW show. It's
paid four shows. Oh surety soon I want to bring a show to North
Carolina. Then I think we should do that. Ninety four, I think,
and it should be Ricky Morton and Robert Gibson against Saboo and a flaming
table. Let's see man. Jason Knight also, well, you know it's
not enough. Get the inside scoop of the e c W called one nine
hundred and eight eighty four for e c W, and see what your favorite
e c W superstar has to say. Hey, it's me umer eight dollars.
You could play the Pro Wrestling trivia game or win e c W tickets.
Just call I'd played the trivia game and just as I'm wrong. It
was the first e c W World's Heavyweight Champion. That would have been the
Rock. Sir, don't ever call this number four games, don't don't ever
call this again. I'll come back to tomorrow. All the answers are Tommy,
Kiro probably just say that you'll get myers for sure. Rock. So
Joey Styllace is here to introduce the phone because you just answered kid, stop
calling you, you man? Yeah, who was the first TV champion e
c W. This is me gave SALKI. Oh yeah, let me let
me think for something that was I see Wiener, I see Wiener. Don't
ever call here. Oh my fucking god. Yeah. The answer is I'm
gonna kill you. I got your number. I got your number. I
never know. My police works for Microsoft and you're you actually weren't tickets in
the East. Have me read a police show up and claim them. But
I'll kick the sh out of you. Come the guys giving out the programs
at the door. You're gonna die. So Joey Styles is here. He
introduces the franchise Shane Douglas Versus Two Cold Scorpio. This is for the n
W A Heavyweight Championship of the World. There was a tournament I'm gonna guess
this was all together. I think this was all one night. At least
it fell. It was a show. It was a show, yeh,
A tournament show. Yeah, yeah, that would explain why the finals went
that they did. I guess, yeah it went great. Yeah, well,
of course it was a legendary fucking thing and that everyone remembers the match.
Yeah. They recapped the n w A World Title tournament. The Tasmaniac
was facing Shane Douglas in the first round and Douglas rolled them up and hailed
the Tights for three. So that's hot, darnhat. Yeah, obviously we
saw Doink lose the nine, but they didn't recap that. The clown get
this guy off the show. Two Cold Scorpio face Benoir. They did a
top rope superplex and both of them brought their legs up to try to pin
one another. They locked their legs and kind of an inside this pin.
What a great finish, James, Yeah, I love it. The bell
rings and the crowd and then nobody knows who actually won. Joe Styles is
It's gotta be Benoir And that's what the n w A board was also same.
It was Scorpio like they they'd be round one and they would him the
win, the old fucking thing. But Scorpio wins. Uh, Shane Douglas
and faced Dean Malinko. I don't understand this tournament or oh you know what,
maybe it's just showing the stuff that too Cold and Shane were involved in.
It's gotta be yeah, that's yeah, that makes sense because they show
it goes right, because I was like, well, who the fuck did
Malinko beat to get to the second round. But I guess it doesn't matter
because Shane Douglas beats them with two pile drivers and then the crowd starts to
woo at Shane Douglas for some reason. I don't know why was Rick Blair
doing double pile driver cheese? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, no,
Shane Douglas and he always sayd Rick Flair. I think he was saying
Dick Flair and back then, Yeah, why I thought the crowd would be
like because the crowd likes Shine Douglas, I think, or maybe not.
I guess maybe they're he was cheating all these matches. Well that's a smart
crownd there in the Philadelphia. They're so smart. What about we'll find out
when the ratings come in. Yeah, let me see that. She and
then Scorpio faced nine to one one and somehow nine to one one didn't win
this, but uh, there's a reason for this. So nine one one
should fucking hear this. Ship boys, fucking choke slams do goal scorfy unbelievable.
I know, I can't believe that ship. Yeah, that's what I
think. So and then Donk comes out, doink the clown. You can't
say that. Just this guy out of here. Well he's here and henlown
Ittack's Bali and he's beating the ship out of Bali on the floor. Nine
to one one gets the acted. Uh and then nine to one one leaps
from the ring over the ropes to the floor. It was crazy war thing
I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, that's real. To the floor.
What the fuck? That's like a freak of fucking nature. I would
have him win the NWA World's Title tournament. Actually now, yeah, everyone
loves like no matches, just finishes, So like choke slam, choke slam,
choke slam, We're going all the way. Yeah, sick. So
he goes to the floor and then he double goozles doink against the apron like
Homer Simpsons time. That was awesome. Yeah, it was nuts. And
then Matt Bourne is here with how is this possible? Well, he's beating
the nine to one one to ship with a chair how Yeah, Matt Bourne
is doink, But who's doink? Oh my, it's that Shane Douglas is
under doink outfit and face paint just to distract nine to one one. So
two cold Scorpio can win because I guess nine one one was gonna choke.
The craziest tournament recap I've ever seen, by the way, fucking insane.
Yeah, a bunch of non finishes. This would go like a wet fart
nowadays, Oh my god, would be crucified. Yeah, this would be
terrible. The finals, yeah, I think that's what it was. Yeah.
So but like you as risky because then they like I think people were
booing, but I think they like Scorpio. So it's like, oh,
that's kind of a risky. They're just protecting nine to one one and making
Shane Douglas go to the finals. Let's dointrue doink in the final. Yeah,
that'd be crazy if he came out in that bakeup I put it on
the Scorpio won by a count out, by the way, not by Q
or DQ or anything like that. He won to buy a count out.
I guess things are starting to get extreme. Well, we're on our finals
here, the n w A World's Title Tournament finals, Shane Douglas the fucking
Franchise against two Cold Scorpio. So like, yeah, okay, question really
quick. So this tournament was obviously it was on a show on its own,
and they put it on this TV show, right, So did they
announce it was already Extreme Championship Wrestling And then that's probably why the rule changed
and why it wasn't an ODQ or why it was why he didn't get his
qualify. They might have already just been doing that. But I don't think
ECW or Eastern Gym like this version was already nbac W was already doing like
the rules like that before it was. But the yeah, I think the
name change legit happens, like I don't think the people in the crowd know
it changes until they watch this damn. Okay, yeah yeah yeah. Also
I'll just said not here on this tournament they had the tournament thing this show
also had where Cactus Shack and bikey Whiprick when the tag titles on this seriy
same shit right on this one show. This is a crazy ECW moments here,
but it didn't air on this one. It'll air next week on the
ECW hardcoret TIZ, which pretty cool. I mean, that's fucking that's a
big moment too, because that Mikey Angle is awesome. That's like one of
his like cactuses, big w. It's like a huge year for East.
Yeah. Right, everything's happening right now. Yeah wow? And nine one
one chokeslamming people. Awesome, that's pretty awesome. Well do you want to
get twenty years of science fiction television on one VHS? How do you fucking
know? How about instead of that, it says, when we give you
a twin pack to make that forty years of science fiction plus if you buy
it now, Johnny, you get the making of T two Judgment Day.
And guess what you can't even buy that you can right there at the VHS.
Can't even buy it, that's what it says, can't even buy it.
I mean, all right, that sounds like a great forty years of
that and then the T two whatever the fuck? How much making up t
too. If you order right now via money order will make it sixty years.
Yeah, just let us know. Wow. Well, okay, so
like any price on this what am I looking? Don't worry about it,
just blank check put in the mail. Now I got the place. I
got. The price here is nineteen ninety five. Shit cheaper than an ECW
pay per view. That's forty years. Man, he won sixty making a
blank check. You just let us know. That sounds like a good deal,
James, I might have to go for the blank check please. Yeah,
that's what I was thinking too, Jay. Make that out of Carver
w read Hawn shop right down the street. Just make it out the cash
dress. Also, I think there was the outtakes of Star Trek or so
was that Yeah, Star Trek was on there too, Yeah, outtakes.
It was outtakes. Yeah. You don't actually get any episodes or any movies
or anything. You just get some bullshit guy talking about it. You get
the making of and bloopers and yeah, Terminator two is awesome, though,
it was fucking awesome. Bloopers. Love. I'm a blooper guy. Love
all right, Somon, I'll send it. By Johnny Shane Douglas versus Duke
called Scorpio aw a World's heavyweight title match ending of the tournament. This has
gotta be great. I mean to be honest with you too. Two colds
in like athletic prime, Like he's fucking fantastic. Oh yeah, he has
so much more time left on his career too, where he does some some
fantastic work. I was excited to go into this sure, and like Scorpio,
it looked like they wanted to make him like a top guy. Yeah,
yeah, for sure. And we just talked about Raw ninety eight and
they were calling him underrated. Then he's in the job squad. He's one
of the most underrated guys in there. It's like he was awesome in ninety
four. What the fuck? Yeah, yeah, you're right. And then
I I didn't like this match. It was of its time. I think,
Yeah, I don't seem like yeah time. I feel like the first
four or six minutes or whatever, it was just like, yeah, we're
getting there. We gotta get expected well because I expected it to go like,
you know two technically, I mean imagine that we're gonna do some technical
shit. Imagine it was gonna take a minute to get there because it looked
like there was like a half hour left in the show. I said,
Wow, they're gonna they're gonna cook here at the end of this, and
then it then they didn't. He just didn't. The it goes to show
like it's you know, like like look back at Flair and Steamboat and the
work they did and ship like that, like that that was able to stand
the test time. You can watch that today and it looks like a match
from the day, Like that's just how they were and how you were just
telling me about just how ahead of the time they were, you know what
I mean. And that was in the that was in the eighties. I
think that was like eighties nine or something like that. So like they were,
they were doing matches. I swear to god, you can put that
on anything nowadays and be like, wow, this is a fantastic fucking match
because just yeah, this one, uh not so much. And I'm just
gonna chalk it up to they had two other matches and like they had forty
angles that Pauli was trying to do building to Shae adjustment was point like twenty
minutes ago. So well, I guess the match before this was that Cactus
Jack Mikey Whipprick. So the crowd is probably hot as fuck for that.
And then they died, like you know, Ship, they thrown himself twelve
to six on the floor. Yeah, you don't even doing the franchise like
you know what I mean? Yeah, come on? Uh so they start
off slow here on the mat. All the locker room is cleared out the
ringside to see who wins the n w A title here tonight. Okay,
so well maybe I was looking at it weird, but I don't know if
I've ever seen them do the wrestlers coming out to watch things like this,
because I'm used to them like coming out and like, you know, sitting
on like you know, leaning down on the apron. This was wrestlers.
It was like they're taking a tour of the ring that was doing a lap
and then leaving. What is going on? They just wanted to see I
met. Yeah, I was like that's weird at ship. So yeah,
franchise slap Scorpio on the corner, takes me to the other corner, does
it again. Scorpio fights back, takes over, punch the ship out of
them. Yeah, franchise loads them up on the top rope Scorpio. Scorpio
stuffs is superplex is a cross body for a two just basic baby face starter
stuff here of this era. Dude, This reverse lot of the camal clutch
was awesome. It was it was super athletic, like, this was like
just very well. Does Scorpio gets a chin lock, Douglas fights up belly
to back suplex. This of course gets him back up and Shane Douglas locks
in a camel clutch and Scorpio's way of getting out of this is to stand
up with him on his shoulders and hit an electric chair drop. It was
unbelievably impressive how he was able to pull that off. Strong as fuck.
Yeah, dude, going from your belly to standing up with this dude on
your shoulders. Shane Douglas isn't a small dude. No, Scorpio is also
just he looks great. He's such good shape. Yeah, Shane Douglas tries
to flare bag, but Scorpio hits a flying line in a slings shot splash,
which we actually saw on the WWF episode we watched it. Yeah,
you're right, he killed fucking Christian and Gilberg Dwayne Gill, du Wayne gil
Wayne gil Scorpio hits a Danielson dropkick from the top and they go to the
outside. Uh. Scorpio whips Douglas into the barricade and he topples over it
into the crowd, which looked good. Yeah, it looked awesome. They
could do some crowd brawl and come back out into the ringside area, and
Scorpio goes for a supplex on the floor, but Douglas ends up super plex
gut busting him on the barricade, uh, and then suplexes him into the
ring for a two count. That was Shane. Douglas goes for a jumping
crossbody out of the corner but misses, and then Scorpio hits a tombstone and
he goes up for the moon Salt and misses. I was very surprised at
the lack of reaction to the tombstone. Well, they've probably seen so much
tonight everything. What's the cats out of the what's the cat out of the
bag? You can't put it out of the bag, what's the cat in
the hat? You know? You just whatever? So yeah, tombstone goes
to the moon Salt misses, Douglas hits the belly to belly and he wins,
which makes Shane Douglas the new n w A World's Heavyweight Champion. Dude,
I was like, what the fuck are you kidding me? The match
is over, Like nothing happened. Yeah, Scorpio dropped some ship in the
end, but you know, there was nothing there to really sink your teeth
into, and that could have been a very easy call of like, hey,
look guys, there's like nothing, there's nothing you could do tonight.
That's gonna be like you know what I mean, there's no a C in
this fucking building, Like you know, we just did a title change.
There's nothing you could do, Like I don't know. Yeah, that's true,
that's true, and you just were in the clown pain. Just do
whatever. Yeah, you look ridiculous CALUSSI for me. So yeah, Shane
Douglas has announced is a new n w A World However we champion and this
cool Joey Styllasys Magnum t A may have never won the n w A title,
but the belly to belly suplex, the move that he taught Shane Douglas,
brought Shane that prestigious title. I was like, oh, that's pretty
fucking cool. Yeah, Shane has something to say about Magnum t A and
the NWA. Here in a minute, the crowd is channing. Flare is
dead, which is like, A that's awesome. That as cool as fuck.
Yeah, I love that Scorpio takes the mic. This is unforgotten parts
of this is aga here because yeah, I didn't know this is funny.
Uh. Scorpio says, Champ, you may be the franchise, but it
ain't gonna be no bitching and whining because you just happen to be a better
man tonight. But you are the NWA World Champion. And if I don't
say so myself, I will be on that ass for that belt the truth.
Uh. And he drops the mic and wraps him up. And that's
a. I thought that was the end of Scorpio for the night, but
it is not. But that's you know, for another moment here and Shane
Douglas takes the mic and says he will not be a champion. That hides
And I stand here before God and my father and Evan to night and I
said I would be world heavyweight champion. And in the tradition of of Luthez,
in the tradition of Jack Briscoe of the Briscoe Brothers, of Dorry Funk
junior of Terry Funk, the Man who will Never die, ah as the
real nature boy Buddy Rogers. Oh shit, from the Harley Races to the
Barry Windhams to the Rick Flairs. Guy man, I accept this heavyweight title.
Wait a second, Wait a second of Carrie Van Eric, of the
Fat Man himself, Dusty Roads. He looks up, this is it tonight,
Dad and Rick Steamboat and they get all guess my ass and he throws
the belt down. There's two there's two dudes in the front row that look
like Scorpio just got shot. They're runned by his head. No, and
I'm pretty sure Dennis Carluzzo and another n w A guy are on the front
row on the right side, but they never show them. Douglas says,
because I'm not the man who accepts a torch that was handed down to me
from an organization that died ri i p seven years ago. I'm the man
who ignites the new flame of the sport of professional wrestlings. And he reaches
over and from the at the timekeeper's table and oh, here are convenient they
have the E C. W before tonight, before God and my father.
As a witness, I declare myself the franchise as the new E c W
Heavyweight Champion of the World. The crowd's fucking fired up, and the fat
Man himself, Dusty Rose of the von Erics, all of them, including
the one that they don't really show in the movie, and that other guy
from the talk about Tomash Chats two thousand, Shade Douglas says, we have
set out to change the face of professional wrestling. So tonight let the new
era begin, the era of the sport of professional wrestling, the era of
the franchise, the era of the e c W. And there's a moment
and then the crowd all started chanting easy to me. I don't know if
it's the first time they chanted it, but it felt like it because it
was like Shane dunk Is like, oh, he's like looking around surprised at
the ECW chant And then a forgotten part of this that has never ever shown
ever in the history of them recapping this angle two Cold Scorpio is back in
the ring on the night that dude he's on the microphone and like, the
crowd goes silent. Please you can here like the almost like where like the
audio gurus, like you can see the people just no one's doing anything.
Joey Styles has to cover up. He's like, oh, the crowd is
so loud, we can't hear what two cold Scorpios so damn because like a
thirty second promo in response to this, and yeah, Joey says all that
it's deafening in here. We can't hear you cold anyway, dude, I
looked everywhere online for that and I could not find the average something your version
had, like the promos. I thought maybe he said something they had to
cover up, but no, it was just Poly saying that's our shitty promo.
I love NWA. I'm taking that bill. This is my you know,
don't you ever disrespect the issue? Dude. I love that they just
did that. That was like, that was crazy. Every day the foresight
of that was awesome, just like, yeah, we're just gonna leave the
video, but we'll just put the audio over. Who gives it? Why
not just cut Scorpio's port there they needed e c W is so loud,
crazy, so Joey Styles says. The nw A has been declared dead.
Long Live vc W fuck. And then Shane Douglas, I don't know if
you got this. He like points up to the air with one finger and
he starts like showing everyone the one finger and he starts yelling, yes,
that's that's me in the back, a live one. Uh So then we
go backstage and there's people trying to the show's not over. The people are
trying to interview Dennis Carluzzoo you want to play the trivia game? Or no,
after that, you want to play a game? You better not be
calling here again. I'll tell you that. All right, Oh, all
right, we got a question for you. Who is the current East of
You tag team champions? I see you? Weiener? Oh somebody I go
he must read for the active. So yeah, they're trying to interview Dennis
Carluzzo in the back, and Dennis Carluzzo says, I got nothing to say.
You have a statement from our spokesman. I'm on the way now to
have a conference call with Jim Crocker and Steve Akar. What happened to night
It is a disgrace. I'm disappointed it. Shane Douglas is the NWA champion.
He threw the belt down and he had no right to do that.
And remember one thing, ECW is an NWA member and they're under our jurisdiction.
Alls I can say Shane Douglas is the world champion, whether he les
it or not, and we're gonna have to take care of this problem with
the championship because we're gonna have to talk about the possibility of having both belts
stripped from him because he doesn't deserve to be a jimpion. He is fucked
up. This is like real, dude, he's scrambling to try and get
to the back to talk to the board member and like, what's crazy is
it's ninety four so you have to like you have to find the people or
call him on a payphone or some shit to figure shit out immediately. Yeah,
you're right, yeah, yeah, right now, don't don't call the
ship. But they do the most like insane editing here, the like,
okay, he stripped the champion. We're gonna figure the shit out. He's
a champion, and then they edit they cut right to Todd Gordon and dude,
just the craziest ship. What a fucking like, what a fuck you?
This is a big fuck awesome. So yeah, they interviewer asked him,
Hey, when do you expect this to get resolved? And Dennis Corlusa
said hopefully tonight, and then he leaves, and then we go to Joey
Styles backstage and Joey says, standing by right now east to be Commissioner Todd
Gordon, who's going to straighten out this entire situation and shock the world.
So it goes to Todd Gordon, who looks like, oddly enough, Tony
Kahan was very short, and Todd Gordon says, the representative is the hair,
plus he'd be Tony Khan. You're right, Holy fucking yeah, We're
gonna get you right, I promise, Todd says. The representative of the
NWA Border Directors took it upon himself to inform you that they have the power
to force NWA Eastern Championship Wrestling to not recognize the franchise Shane Douglas as the
world heavyweight Champion. Well as of noon today, I have folded NWA Eastern
Championship Wrestling and in its place will be ECW Extreme Championship Wrestling, and we
recognize Shane Douglas as our world champion, and we encourage any wrestler in the
world to come to the ECW to challenge for that belt, and this is
ECW Extreme Championship Wrestling, changing the face of wrestling. I said, Wow,
that is nuts. I can't imagine being the NWA dudes and seeing that
right after all this shit goes down. I don't even know what I would
do. I would send the quickest facts of all time. So hard they've
been so hard to put on this NWA tournament to relaunch the brand, and
then to said Doug Art said, yeah, fuck you, not only is
he our champion, but we're folding NW. Yeah shitty at belt. Yeah
man, I mean that's like what a fucking way to jump start the Extreme
Championship Wrestling shit though, Yeah yeah, I mean like that. I love
the way this went down in a way like everything like came across and it
just came across as very real and because I guess cool. Yeah yeah,
it made them seem like the rebels, but like you know, being the
rebel is about to be the coolest thing ever. Yeah, yeah, you're
right. The last thing they show on the show here. This is crazy
that this is like the end of this episode. I thought it'd just be
the Todd Gordon thing. But we go backstage and rock O Rock and Johnny
Grunge of the Public Enemy are creeping by a big ECW Eastern Championship Wrestling banner,
and Johnny Grunge then begins to spray paint over Eastern. He's like crosses
it out and it's very slowly. This takes forever. He writes extreme underneath
it. The whole time, rock A Rock is giving him shit about the
cops coming and Johnny Grune is telling him to shut up, and RockA Rocks
is going faster and Johnny Grunt said, don't rush me, and Johnny Grunch
finishes it. This is not bad for no college education, and rock A
Rock says, Johnny, if you think we were hardcore before they turned on
the camera, now we're gonna take it to the extreme. And then they
invent the shield fists, so yeah, take it to the extreme the first
time they ever I guess that was ever said. Is this promo here to
end this show? Which is crazy? Yeah, I mean, like like
everything kind of happening on this show is pretty nuts to look back on.
Yeah, like that, Like I again, like I definitely thought this was
just you know, the Shane Douglas episode. But the fucking Singapore caning thing
going into them being Extreme Championship Wrestling, and you know, fucking Cactus and
Mikey win the tag titles the week after this. This is a pretty monumental
shift in the company. Yeah, absolutely, I mean it changes the wrestling
forever. Yeah. Yeah. And like, how, like I was saying
earlier, how how lucky are they to have dudes that will die for this
shit already before it's Extreme Championship, before they're really shit, Like there's still
there's still an indy Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, that's true.
Yeah, like they're an indie with local TV. I mean, Paulie had
connections obviously, you know, they obviously had some shit with fucking Paulie working
for WCW, and they were trading dudes every time Paulie wanted to sue them
or whatever. That gag does come in. But because it was a name
Steve Austin and all that shit coming in. Yeah but yeah, yeah,
So, like it's how many pieces had to be in the right spot for
this to succeed is actually pretty impressive when you look back on it. Yeah,
that was a ballsy move too, for them to just do this and
ship yeah, because you know that it's the NBA took him with the court
over like who's going to be the champion? And well, Tony, I
guess we can talk a little more about what happened after this. Now some
observer stuff here from The Observer, September fifth, nineteen ninety four, Melta
writes, and what will go down is one of the more public double crosses
in a business known for lying in double. Todd Gordon's Eastern Championship Wrestling,
after holding the NWA tournament on eight twenty seven at the East of w Greena
And in Philadelphia, publicly trashed the belt and the promotion. On its television
show three nights later, announced it was quitting the fledging organization. Douglas did
the speech while a stunned Carluso looked on. Even after the double cross,
ew officials Pauly Dangerously in particular, tried to play Kate Carluzzo, telling him
it was only an angle to get heat on Douglas, but that turned out
to just be another in a string of lies when the reality was obvious on
television three nights later that it was a public statement which did get over with
the East b Core audience, which heavily booed Carluso from the moment he came
into the ring as NWA representative. Before going to the ring, Carluso had
Shane Douglas sign a contract as NWA Champion which stipulated that he agreed to drop
the title when it was requested by a majority vote of the NWA board via
either binfall or submission. The contract stipulated a five hundred dollars per appearance guarantee
for any title defense, plus air transportation n hotel whenever he's booked more than
two hundred miles from his hometown of Pittsburgh. The contract stipulated that any NWA
promoter's requesting dates on him must give him forty five days notice. If Douglas
doesn't abide by the contract, as he apparently won't be doing, then the
NWA can strip him of the title. There's no word on the reaction of
the rest of the NWA board, although Carluzzo himself wants to hold a tournament
to kremp beIN Wa the champion in November. From The Observer, September twelfth,
nineteen ninety four, the situation regarding Todd Gordon's NWA Heavyweight title tournament on
eight twenty seven in Philadelphia, only heated up this past week. As expected.
On a television show that aired eight thirty, East W changed his name
to Extreme Championship Wrestling and will recognize Shane Douglas as the EASTW World Heavyweight Champion
based on the double cross. The NWA whatever currently that entails, released a
statement saying they are declaring the tournament null and void in stripping Douglas not only
of the title, but of any recognition as a former NWA champion. I
don't know if that gets double retcond or not, because, like I think
Jeffrey, every instance still regards him as champion, like Wikipedia still shows it.
But I don't know how that end. That's fucking joy wow. They
did. On Sunday, both Douglas and booker Paul E Dangerously were scheduled to
appear both on John Aresi and Mike Taney's radio shows. On both shows,
Douglas stated at the idea to throw the NWA belt and proclaimed the belt as
a meaningful one came to him in the ring spontaneously that night and the idea
was his and his alone. He denied any premeditation on the part of him
or the promotion and what happened. Paul E, having no knowledge of what
Douglas had either said or was going to say, then came on one of
the radio shows and said the idea was planned well in advance and it was
a double cross. Okay, gotcha, bitch, gotcha, motherfucker, but
they had the reasons for doing it, and said he'd accept whatever heat came
down because of the decision. Dangerously then missed Tenay's show, calling just after
the show went off the air. One of the radio shows also booked Dennis
Carluzzo as a guest, who said both Douglas and Dangerously were love which,
by their own contradictions of the same story, it did come off that at
least one of them was Carluso, who said the NBA will hold a tournament
in November, wasn't booked on the Today Show, called the show as a
caller and pretty much said the same thing. Carluzzo's side of the story is
that when he was contacted about the tournament, since they needed either his or
Steve Rickard's approval, Gordon first told him, in order to get his approval,
he could pick the winner. Carlosos said he and Rickard decided on Chris
Benoi winning the tournament because they felt he was the biggest international star in the
field and because he worked all over the world, he could take the belt
all over the world and make it a meaningful world title. According to Carloso,
Gordon agreed to let Benoa win instead of Douglas, but then told him
the next day that they had promised it to Shane Douglas, but that if
he approved the tournament then in return Douglas who dropped the title to ben Wall
at the TV tapings the next afternoon. At that point, Carloso said he
knew as a double cross was coming, but he wanted to be a team
player. Bullsh and last thing here from The Observer, September nineteenth, nineteen
ninety four. It looks like the n WA title situation isn't going any more
smoothly. With ECW out of the picture, Dennis Carluzo and Jim Crockett's point
haven't been able to agree on a champion and appears Steve Rickard will appear will
have to be brought in as a deciding voter. Carluso has talked about running
the tournament November, but for now that isn't a sure thing. And just
so everyone knows, a tournament is held in November and then the NWA title
is then won by Chris Candido. Chris, they must have fucked up.
Chris Gandido beat Tracy Smothers in the finals. Dan Severn would then win the
title February of nineteen ninety five, and then Dan Severn would hold the title
until March fourteenth, nineteen ninety nine, where he'd lose it in Japan to
Ogawa. I don't know how the fuck he held it for four years or
they just weren't having him defended. Yeah, that's what I would imagine to
It was like a thousand day rain or something like that. Nuts, But
yeah, so that's uh, that is how this all shook out. ECW
fucking got him. Just ever have that belt on WF right? Yeah he
did. But yeah, man, I mean what a crazy, crazy situation.
The fact that they wanted Ben Wil to win the title and Ben Wall
loses in the first round is also pretty funny. Yeah uh, but yeah,
that is it. That is it for ECW Television soon to be Hard
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