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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we aim to be the Kalais Campbell of podcasts. I'm Greg Rosenthal, joined by Nick Shook, wrapping up the week fresh off the major news that Kaleis Campbell, at forty years old, as signing with the Ravens. And when I say I want to be like the Kalayis Campbell, don't you just want to be like the guy that the ball knowers respect and just keeps on going and some great team wants to sign you, it doesn't matter. Just keep keep motoring on. Kalais Campbell getting it done. NFL Daily guest by the way, a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Shook, Yeah, yeah, big big fan of Khalais Campbell. I think everybody's pretty much a big fan of Klais Campbell, former Walter Payton Man of the Year, A mountain of a man. And to answer your question, I would love to still be able to play football as I approached my fortieth birth Yeah, that'd be fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm older than Klais Campbell, so I'm not I'm saying more in podcast years, I would be older in this scenario. And you just keep getting the these contracts on and on because you're you're producing at a high level. Sometimes it's better to be the Kalayis Campbell maybe than the James Harden who you watched in person. You know, like the super duper star, but like there's a lot of pressure on that guy.

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Speaker 3: It's good to just be the Kalayis Campbell.

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Speaker 1: Team played different sports, very different and look big game James, He's made a lot of money over the years.

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Speaker 3: We're going to hit some news.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot since we taped our look at all the teams in the AFC and NFC post draft, and then for our segment today, we're going to talk about nine veterans who were helped by the draft, and then nine veterans who are hurt by the draft. Maybe a little competition, maybe they didn't get weapons around them.

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Speaker 3: So that's how we're going to wrap up the show.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Campbell was my first little item because it's the freshest as we're about to tape. Gives the Ravens a pretty strong front line. I mean, this group looks a lot better with Mattabueke, who were at this point cautiously assuming his back and Kalais Campbell than they did with him. And then you have Roderick Washington's a big time player, Travis Jones's got a big contract, and suddenly you feel good about that beef upfront. Maybe that makes up for Trey Hendrickson's not like the best run defender. But you also draft Zion Young like that's a bulky Ravens looking group.

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Speaker 2: This is a group that I think in their best years thrived off of depth, having options, having guys that are specialized pass rushers, you know, being able to rotate in and out, stay fresh, and maintain a consistent front. And they really lacked that last year and that was a big part. You know, we always talked about Atbka's injury, but it was more than just that. It was a lack of general depth and getting run right through. So they've done a good job of approaching this whole group this offseason by throwing a lot of resources at it. And I think Campbell is just a classic raven signing. We've talked about this many times, and they've done this many times over the years. They go get the veteran that is going to try and chase the ring and hop on board, except this is the second time he's doing it, coming back to do the.

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Speaker 4: Same thing they did from twenty twenty to twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: So Kevin Clark had a great tweet that noted in Campbell's draft class, you have Matt Ryan, who's now running an NFL team. You have Kevin O'Connell in that draft class who's been the head coach of a team for a while. You also have a head coach that's already been fired from that draft class, who was also the defensive rookie of the year.

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Speaker 3: Can you name him, Chookie?

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Speaker 1: Come on, two thousand and eight, defensive rookie of the year, already fired as a coach.

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Speaker 2: I would have to say, Okay, yeah, you got Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember think being defensive of the year, But yeah, am I crazy?

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm the one that's wrong. I mean, man, it does show you how long Campbell's been around. Darren McFadden fourth in that draft, Vernon Golson Golston number seven, le Otis mcklvin number eleven. So these are names that you just have not heard in a long time. I was right, he was defensive. He was back back in two thousand and eight. Like I said, We're gonna get to the big names later. Like Lamar Jackson is in our segment, a lot of the big time quarterbacks, Jordan Love like, we're going to get to all those names, but from now we're hitting the news, and I did want to talk bo Nix, who got another ankle surgery. What did you make of this coming out right around the time when they told us initially Nick that bo Nicks was going to be back on the field for OTAs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always concerning when guys undergo two operations in one offseason on an injury, because it suggests that something didn't go right the first time. It just it increases the odds that they're not going to get back either on time or at full strength, and that the recovery is going to take longer.

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Speaker 4: Just no matter of the injury.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a hundred like, I'm not fully concerned as it relates to the Broncos in their projection this year, just because it's not like he needs to get on the field and learn a new offense or get acclimated with a bunch of different guys. It's just that you worry about whether he's going to be able to take the field completely healthy and at the same level that he was at last year because I mean, let's face it, this is a quarterback who a lot of his game is about getting outside of the pocket and you know, extending plays and finding open players. I mean, that's when he's at his best, is out on the perimeter. That's when defined his rookie season under Sean Payton. So a little bit concerning, But it is also April thirtieth, so I get married.

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Speaker 1: But now we have the context of remember whether they went back and forth. Bo Nix was unhappy that Sean Payton put it out there that he might have kind of a recurring ankle issue that had needed surgery for a long while. And then I saw in the article on ESPN dot com about Boonix like how he's had multiple ankle surgeries going back to high school. He had won after and this was public after his rookie season in the NFL too, And then this back and forth with Sean Payton and the fact that they told us, hey, this is not going to be any big deal. He's going to be part of OTAs. He's ahead of schedule literally at the owners meeting. That I hate when they said ahead of schedule. And then he needs another surgery and then you know, I love Ian Rappaport, but he says, hey, this was not unexpected. Sometimes when you're getting an ankle surgery, this was this was unexpected.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's the nature of the surgery, because like, right, there's a cleanup, there's drainage and you can do that, or there's like a legit, you know, repair that needs to be done.

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Speaker 4: We need to know more about that.

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Speaker 1: So if they think he's going to be ready for training camp, although Ian even said if not the beginning of training camp, then soon thereafter. So I think it's a little concerning. Shout out to Ian Rappaport, who reports suggests reaching his own new deal, but that's not been reported anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Reports on his contract.

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Speaker 1: I think Front Office Sports had it. So we're gonna We're gonna get at them, not me. Since we last taped, the Titans have changed their organs organizational structure.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 1: This is a yearly occurrence. Titans fans get really annoyed when you bring this up. But Titans Football Operations, the head of football Operations, Chad Brinker leave the left the organization this week, and he had already been essentially demoted behind the GM Mike Borgonzi back in January, so that was the bigger change. But then he left and it really is something I'm going to go through the list. Are you ready for this? Since December of this is these are the changes at the very top of the Titans organization.

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Speaker 4: I was the firing of John Robinson, right Number one.

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Speaker 1: John Robinson fired after a power struggle out of with Mike Rabel.

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Speaker 3: Number two.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen months later, they fire Mike Rabel after a power struggle with the general manager Ran Carthon, who they had brought in soon after John Robinson got left go got let go. At that point they hired Brian Callahan as head coach and they elevated our guy Chad Brinker to running the football operations. That's only two years in about three months ago.

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Speaker 3: Then what is it?

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Speaker 1: One year after that, they fire Ran Carthon the GM after his own power struggle apparently with the head coach and or Brinker. Callahan then is involved with helping to select the new general manager a lot of safer Brian Callahan there, Brinker also involved. They bring in Mike Burganzi only eight months after he had say and bringing in the general manager. They fire Brian Callahan and then, as I mentioned in January, three months after that, Borganzi then gets put over Brinker. Four months after that he's gone, And multiple things can be true. This can be a smart move and let Borganzi run the show, and that that speaks to a dysfunctional organization that can't decide what to do.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, That's exactly what I want to say without sounding too harsh. I mean to kind of bring some logic to it. Brinker coming in as an AGM to Carthon, So it's a guy of a pass regime, right, Yeah, still there to make the decisions. Then you get the guy in place that you want. The reorganization which puts Borgonzi above him makes sense because that's the guy that you hired to really run the ship. It also makes sense that they part with Breaker, who was from a pass group. But like you said, dysfunction. This is a team that since the end of the Rabel and Robinson era, which is really the end of the Verbel era, given that Robinson was fired before, they have known nothing but change. I mean it's come down to even their uniforms. They made a massive uniform change and then five years later they're like, we don't like these We're going to go back to the Oilers colors now, Like there's no consistency in this franchise. And you hoped that last year's draft with cam Ward it really like kind of set the tone and put them on a new track. But then they fired their coach in the season. They're rolling with, you know, an interim coach the rest of the way. So they're still trying to figure out how to get on one track and maybe, just maybe this is the final step in that direction.

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Speaker 1: And to be clear, I get why this particular move happened, but the reality is this guy only was elevated two years ago. He was involved in helping to hire Borganzi only a year plus ago, and now he loses his job to Borganzi. And I had Titans fans coming at me being.

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Speaker 3: Like, this wasn't a power struggle.

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Speaker 1: He just wanted to get back to the football side of it all, and all that was like, well, you think he wanted to give up full football control to the guy that he hired. You think that what he was looking for was to get demoted and then have to leave.

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Speaker 3: This is not what he wanted.

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Speaker 1: They decided Borgonzi was the guy, and I think that makes sense based on everything we know compared to Chad Brinker. But it still is a franchise that since twenty twenty one with Rabel when they lost in the divisional round. They won twelve games that year, then they won seven, then they won six, then they won three, then they won three. So you don't get the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. But I do think this current group Borganzi and Robert Sala and the people that they've added the pieces, good things could be happening. Who knows, we might even get a super Bowl in Nashville. Some people are wondering with that new stadium, let's go to Cleveland where they're a little earlier, like in the rebuilding, I guess in Tennessee because they don't really have the franchise.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback, or do they.

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Speaker 1: Mary Kay Cabot reports that Deshaun Watson is the favorite to start because he looked better at Voluntary Veterans Mini camp before the guys even showed up. This was it's a while report to come out on April twenty ninth. What did you think?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sorry, I just I love the Or do they that was so good.

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Speaker 2: Look, anybody who is surprised by this hasn't been paying attention to or reading between the lines of what's been happening with the Browns, which if you haven't been, totally understand they're not atop the list of franchises that you need to track in twenty twenty six in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: But it really started.

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Speaker 2: I think I noticed a shift toward the Browns opening the door for Watson to make his way back in the lineup when Jimmy has them changed his tone. You know, this is the same person, the owner of the Browns, who said that the Watson deal was a huge swing and a miss a year prior, and he kind of like pivoted in that way to well, like it was a swing and a miss, but it doesn't have to be a swing and a miss. I can't remember exactly what the quote was, but it was like, I'm going to try and you know, do a little maybe damage control and say, hey, maybe we can still find something here. And they have to at least explore it because they paid them all this money, They've gotten nothing from him. They've tacked on void years with every restructure, and they have one year left in the existing deal and they have no better option, and if he's healthy, then at least give him a go. So it felt like from the moment that they started to change their tone publicly. I think this is at the owner's meetings or even before that. Yeah, that they were going to give this an opportunity. For it to come out now is hilarious because this is just seed planting, that's all this is, and all you think.

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Speaker 1: There's information coming from the organization, maybe even the head coach or the front office who knows who it is.

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Speaker 3: Yes, for Mary Kay to put that.

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Speaker 2: Out because because I look, I love Mary Kay, but this has got to be fed from the team because there's nothing that you would gain at this point in the off season that suggests that he is that far ahead of them.

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Speaker 1: It's also the voluntary mini camp. We've seen these sort of things. I know the media might be watching. How much can you really draw from from these practices exeforts in April that he suddenly first It seems it seems insane And I was laughing about it with a friend who shall not be named of, Like she put this out initially and it wasn't really getting much traction and then she quote tweeted it and said, related to my breaking news earlier, because it didn't really seem like breaking news, my breaking news earlier, that Watson has taken the first step.

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Speaker 3: I think the Browns should go ahead and.

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Speaker 1: Just declare that he's the starter going into you know, once they're like going into the off season. And then that started getting more news, the use of the word breaking news and more attention, and that speaks to what you're saying of like, man, this seems like a little plan that, hey, we're not getting enough traction on this prepping the pump for Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 3: As the starter news, Let's push that a little harder.

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Speaker 4: And it involves.

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Speaker 2: Lightning rod In shudor Sanders because he's on that depth chart and that's always going to drive internet traffic and discourse, right, So, I honestly think it's smart for the Browns to potentially declare that stance at this point in the off season, just so that they can avoid the you know, countless questions of who's leading in the quarterback competition today.

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Speaker 4: Is it going to work out?

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Speaker 2: No, probably not, But I think for them it's probably smartest for them to organize their depth chart publicly now.

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Speaker 1: So I just thought they would give up on the Deshaun Watson thing, and I was wrong. I did not think last year that he would have a realistic chance to play again because he's been so bad. And I've seen this idea that like, well, Watson's more experienced, Monken wants to work with it, Like, okay, maybe if he, if he's healthier and all this stuff, you could make this case he has more experience. But Ben Solak then reminded me in a tweet from ESPN that there have been nine hundreds in seven seasons of at least two hundred passing attempts this century. Deshaun Watson the last time we saw it, had the nine hundred and second of nine hundred and seven seasons in yards per drop back, one of the worst five seasons in yards per dropback that we've seen.

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Speaker 3: That's how bad he was.

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Speaker 1: Since that's happened, he's repaired his torn achilles twice.

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Speaker 4: It's like going to work. But this is where they are.

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Speaker 3: Why is it? Is he better?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 3: Sorry?

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Speaker 1: More from this space soon, hopefully not too soon, as he's Outshai here. The Texans got a three year contract reported as a fifty four million dollar extension.

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Speaker 3: But that's on.

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Speaker 1: Top of the year that was already there no guaranteed money reported. I like, isis he's I'll say here, I have a feeling this contract won't look as good when you see the actual money. But you probably got some guaranteed money over the next year or two. But when when the reporters don't mention the guaranteed money, that means it's usually not that good for them. Let's talk very quickly about the fifth year options that have been picked up around the league. Will McDonald, the edge rusher for the Jets, gets it picked up thirteen point seven million dollars for Will McDonald because what he was at the end of the first round, so it's not quite as much interesting because he's more of a third fourth rusher that locks him in That one was I think up in the air. Quintin Johnston gets it for seventeen million dollars. That's in twenty twenty seven. So what this does. It locks him in for two more years. Thoughts about Quinton Johnston little show of support there from the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, after his rookie year, if you would have asked me, is he going to get his fifth year option picked up? I would have said absolutely not, because he was just a disaster as a rookie. But he's really recovered in the last couple of years. He's got two straight seasons of seven hundred plus yards, eight touchdown catches in each of his last two seasons, ninety one targets, eighty four targets. He's a focal part of this offense. Fifty five catches, fifty one catches over his last two years. Consistency. It makes sense now, and especially as with this group. You have him, you have Lad McConkey, you have Trey Harris. You kind of think, okay, well maybe this is your three. This is how you're going to proceed. This seems like he's the leading member of this group. And yes, they want to be a run first team, but you obviously need to know secure your receiver. So I think he's earned this fifth year option and perhaps we see his first thousand yard season if they can actually protect Justin Herbert this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it would have been impacted by this or the draft itself, the plan was impacted by planning to pick this up, but yeah, they didn't get a weapon early in the draft. I think that makes it easier to make this decision. I think they want to run the offense more through McConkie. Seventeen million dollars though, is a lot, and he provides like a very specific and he has gotten a little better each year. Christian Gonzalez was a no brainer fifth year option picked up.

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Speaker 3: Same thing with Jamir Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: Both of those gentlemen will be looking for long term contracts before they even get to that fifth year option.

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Speaker 3: And then a couple of nos.

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Speaker 1: Miles Murphy, the first round pick of the Bengals from three years ago, got to know the edge numbers. Like for Miles Murphy, who was late in the round, wasn't that huge, but he's been pretty disappointing, even though he showed some signs of life late last year. So that was an interesting call from them. And then Jack Campbell, the linebacker of the Lions, got to know what did you make of Jack Campbell not getting his option picked up.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't entirely surprised because like he when you watch him, he's all right, he's okay, he's a Na Campbell fan. He's not a guy that you want to lock yourself into paying that fifth year option money. At linebacker, he's a guy that you want to extend at a lower rate over a couple of years.

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Speaker 4: If you think you're still on this plan.

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Speaker 1: That's it because the line backer group gets mixed in with the edges, like there are linebacker edges. So his number, it was kind of what happened. Who am I forgetting had a very similar circumstance where he gets to the market. It was Linderbomb is who I'm thinking about, because the centers get mixed in with the tackles, and the Ravens did not want to give Linderbaum like a twenty eight million dollars one year contract, thinking well, the center market's not even close to that.

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Speaker 3: In the end, he got that money from the raven They just.

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Speaker 2: They just didn't think that the Raiders were going to pay the tax that right range.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of the same idea where if Jack Campbell that sets like an average floor where he's suddenly the highest paid off ball linebacker in the league. Are close to it, so they they did quickly say, hey, we want to be in the Jack Campbell business long term. But you know, his yearly average is going to be lower than that. They didn't say that part, but that's what they're they're going to want. So I think he's gotten better every year, and I think they're happy with Jack Campbell. That's a tough position where he is really a better player now than he was as a rookie. All Right, it's time for the offseason ride along presented by Toyota. Some odds and ends around the league. Caden Proctor, the Dolphins number twelve overall pick. They announced he's going to play left guard. I just thought that was interesting. The Giants agreed to terms with one of your favorite players, former Browns, Shelby Harris, and I want that.

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Speaker 5: Known.

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Speaker 3: We haven't heard.

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Speaker 1: About Juwan Jennings signing yet with the Vikings. I expected that to happen, but that hasn't happened. But yes, I want that known. Shelby Harris with them, Darius Slayton their receiver who has a pretty good contract there. It's getting a little crowded in their receiver group. He had a core muscle surgery, which is a real deal. Surgery announced, so he might be questionable for the start of trading camp. The Vikings have started their GM search I thought that was interesting, and their current guy, Rob Brazinski is one of the candidates for it. Kind of a cap guy who's been there a long time, but they're going to look outside the building too. And then just some retirement news, happy trails to Justin Simmons. He really stands out to me, I mean shook as a West guy, one of Chris Wessey and our great friend's absolute favorites. Really saw something in him as like just a hunt and chase playmaking safety pretty early in his career. He ends up making four second team All Pros and so a great career out of the Bronco. You know, he had some time there with the Falcons, but really think about him as a Bronco. He retired as a Bronco, and yeah, one of Wes's absolute favorites and a great call by him very early on in his career.

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Speaker 3: Because a fun player to watch over the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very fun player to watch for my favorite players to watch. Kind of makes me think of like that group of safeties. I don't know if I would call it a generation, but the age group of safeties that also included like Jesse Bates, you know, somebody that was just a really fun guy to watch who at his peak was one of the best safeties in the NFL, A ballhawk.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Career interceptions total thirty two over nine seasons. That's very good for safety and somebody that put together quite a career. Happy trails on retirement. I wish I could have seen you play football last year. He did not play football last year, so unfortunately, sometimes the league retires you, and I think that was one of these cases.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough when you're that physical player. I think of his physicality to a great combination of playmaking and physicality, like it just goes quickly and these guys give up their bodies for the sport and it happens quickly. But an awesome player. And I don't think he's a Hall of Famer. I'm not going to make a case for him to be a Hall of Famer at all. And I hate starting with the negative. What I wanted to just point out, though, is for second team All pros which I think that's just about the best honor you can have is be part of the All Pro team. That is a better All Pro resume than a handful, maybe even more than a handful of people that have made the Hall of Fame. Justusin Simmons is not that level of pair, but that just shows you. I think he's better than people realize over his career.

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Speaker 2: Now, I had trying to remember who was the first team All Pro during those teams. I mean, I'm gonna look at it right now since we have the power of the internet at our disposal. Oh, Kevin, Kevin Byered, Kevin Byered in there. Yeah, make is in the mix at that time. I think Jordan Poyer, yeah, Derwin yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. It's a strong group. It's a strong group.

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Speaker 1: And that was the off season ride along presented by Toyota because when people are the destination, your ride is important. Learn more at Toyota dot com and find the vehicle that fits your people. I want to take a little break, but I am really excited. After the break, we are going to hit nine players. And these are veterans, guys who have been in the league, but they see what's going on with the draft. Helped a lot by the draft, and then we're going to talk about nine.

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Speaker 3: Players hurt by the draft.

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Speaker 1: Back in the minute, back on NFL Daily taping on a Thursday afternoon for Shook on the East Coast, and we.

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Speaker 3: Have our first first round rookie.

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Speaker 1: Contract signed as we're taking congratulations to Mackay Lemon eleven point five million dollars signing ones.

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Speaker 3: That's how you know the salary cap is going way up.

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Speaker 1: These rookie deals are actually finally back to what they were like before the CBA ruined the rookie deals for the rookies, they actually are like the numb they literally I think this is the year that now, like the number one overall pick makes more significantly than Matthew Stafford did back in twenty eleven before.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about like the Sam Bradford negotiations, Like yeah, and I actually I looked that up recently because I was trying to trace when exactly that changed for a piece over the last couple of months, and I got into the details and I was like, those are astronomical numbers for guys who are razy.

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Speaker 3: Do we still live like that crazy?

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Speaker 1: Because if you think about those players I just talked about back for like the eight draft, like Vernon Golston getting taken sixth overall, Brady Quinn was immediately in the top you know, fifteen edge rushers. It was very risky now the money money's higher now, but inflation, how they fit in with the rest of the structure is not the same.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, let's do the segment.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk and I've made a list nine players who were helped by the draft, nine players hurt by the draft, and we're going to count down from nine to one, and you let me know what you think, give some context. Did I have a player too high or too low? Maybe less about that, and just what you think about this player. I've got number nine guys helped by the draft. George Pickens. He just signed his franchise tag. So this is a way of sneaking some news into the segment.

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Speaker 3: See what I did there.

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Speaker 1: I just think if the draft fell a little differently, like if they had taken Mackay Lemon like I thought, or Jordan Tyson, if Jordan Tyson had fallen to them instead of Caleb Downs. I just think there's like a world where they draft him. I really thought that instead. Now Flournoy is your number three receiver, and maybe this tag conversation is different either way. The Cowboys have said they're not giving him a long term deal, So you know, who needs to have great stats? This season, George frickin' Pickens, like he does not need that target share to get messed up, and without them adding anything, it's pretty much him and CD just dominating. And he's going to need a big year because, like, if you think about who made himself more money based on what he would have gotten on the open market in twenty twenty five versus twenty twenty six, George Pickens might be number one on the list.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he can't.

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Speaker 1: He can't fall back to doing like eight hundred yards and have an up and down season. He needs to get all those targets. So I thought he was gonna indirectly helped by the draft.

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Speaker 2: And I think that he probably will, just because the basis of their offense. First off, it's one of my favorite one two punches at receiver in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: And nothing about this offense has really changed.

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Speaker 2: You still have Dak Prescott, you still have you know, your your head coach and Brian Schottenheimer, and you know what you're going to get, right, So it's just an idea of going out and replicating it. Now last year, some of these big games that he had refueled by the fact the ceedee Lamb, you know, was on the field, and then the others were the fact that he wasn't on the field, and yet he still found a way to produce. I thought this is an interesting situation going into the draft in which if they had selected somebody that they would then be positioned perfectly, well maybe not perfect because they have less leverage. But to trade him, it felt like this is a franchise tag that could end up being.

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Speaker 1: The possibly and that would have been good for him, I guess. So that goes against my point.

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Speaker 2: That he was I think it was going to be helped regardless. Actually, okay, I think he's in a good spot.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, And yeah, he had fourteen hundred yards last year.

00:26:30
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not saying he has to do that, but I just think he has to be happy, healthy, productive. Because of how it up and down his career has been. There is a world where this like doesn't go perfectly well, I think I think it has a chance to go better. Staying at receiver number seven and eight, these were just two young players, Keon Coleman and Jack Besh. Kean Coleman with the Bills, Jack Besh with the Raiders. Two second round picks who did not do much last year. Coleman in his second year besch you know, in his in his first Bill say they're you know, they were not interested. People called about Keon Coleman were not interested. They drafted Skyler Bell, but I think he's going to be more on the inside. The Raiders are just rolling with Jalen Naylor and Trey Tucker. There's not much there. So these are two guys who are frankly trying to make a career in the NFL. There's no one on the outside for Coleman either, and so I just thought, Okay, their teams are going to give them another chance here to be the guys that they.

00:27:22
Speaker 3: Drafted them to be.

00:27:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I really wanted the Bills a draft receiver in this first round. They were in a tough spot given where their pick was and the way that the draft unfolded. There was really nobody worth it at that spot, so it made sense why they traded back three times and ultimately out of the first round.

00:27:37
Speaker 4: Entirely. I know that they went and got.

00:27:39
Speaker 2: DJ Moore in the offseason and they believe that that's going to make them a better group. But I just fear that we're going to have in the same situation we were in with them last year, which is we get the playoffs and you're talking about Brandon Cooks being your best player and you wish that you had you know, Tyrrell Shavers or you know Gabe Davis and his brief you know, return before he was off the field again.

00:27:57
Speaker 4: So it does help Keon callm in.

00:28:00
Speaker 2: But it's above all, it's about Keon taking advantage of the opportunity in front of him, which he hasn't done over the first two seasons. And I am very tired of the posturing from the Bill's front off is that we believe in Kon.

00:28:13
Speaker 1: We're not taking your draft Eric, Eric Roberts. Of course, he's tracking the bills. Sound let's listen. This was actually before the draft.

00:28:22
Speaker 6: Because I believe in who Keon Coleman is. I believe in the people that we have in the building. And look, Keon. I've never questioned Kian's work ethic. I've never questioned his athletics, athleticism right, and I think when we surround himselves with the people, when he surrounds himself with the people that he needs down here, you know, in this building, that it's it's all going to come together. And I have no doubt in Keon Coleman.

00:28:44
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean Brandon Beans says basically the same stuff. He said it like twice now. I think he said it this week after the draft. Yeah, it's every.

00:28:55
Speaker 4: Once in a while.

00:28:55
Speaker 2: It gets to the point where you say it so often that I have a hard time believing because you're trying to you hard to convince me just just.

00:29:02
Speaker 1: Be a role player. He can happen almost twenty yards per catch as a rookie. He had five hundred and fifty six yards as a rookie. That's not nothing as a twenty one year old. He's only twenty three now. So they both have a chance. I mean, I have my doubts, but it was a good weekend for them. Lamar Jackson alluded to it earlier. I believe he had a good weekend in general. Because you take Venga Yuana in the first round, you take two receivers in the third and fourth, Jacobe Laane from usc I, Elijah Surat in the fourth. They had eight picks in the first five rounds total, took six of those were on offense. They got some linemen they got some tight ends for the first five were on offense, and so in general, I know these aren't super duper stars, but Yuani's going to help out that offensive line. I just thought the Ravens are prioritizing offense, not super duper firepower. But I think these guys can help him out this year.

00:29:56
Speaker 4: I agree.

00:29:57
Speaker 2: Yanni was my favorite, honestly offensive I'm in this draft just because I think he's going to be a people mover and a monster at guard. And so when he went landed with the Ravens, was like, that's the perfect fit. But the perfect fit for me I was hoping for in Day two was Jacoby Lane to the Ravens. And then they landed on it in the third round. And now I'm on record saying that, by the way, not here but elsewhere. And so when it actually drops.

00:30:18
Speaker 3: Got some haters. Jacobe Lane of just.

00:30:20
Speaker 4: I don't care. I don't care.

00:30:21
Speaker 2: I'm gonna trust my eyes and I think I'm gonna like his fit in that offense. So yeah, I think that it's a It was a big win for Lamar. It was a big win I think in the first seven picks for the Ravens, like all the way down to one seventy three. Josh Quavis, the tight end from Alabama. I just like the way that they approached this. I love Sarat the kid from Indiana. I think they're both going to fit in nicely in this offense. They're a lot deeper on that side of the ball now. So big, big victory of a weekend for the Ravens and for Lamar Jackson.

00:30:46
Speaker 1: And you do get a sense with the new head coach that Lamar. You know, he showed up when they started lifting weights right away, professionalism, like they're working on an extension. We actually have Eric DaCosta. This is from w b L talking about Lamar.

00:31:03
Speaker 5: As we've said, Lamar is his own agent. It's a personal relationship that we have with Lamar, and I think it's important that we probably keep those kind of discussions in house for the best of the team, for the best of the negotiations. But I am confident that Lamar will be here. I'm excited about it. I think he loves the team, he loves the city, he loves our fan base. And when I think of the Ravens, I think of Lamar Jackson being on field.

00:31:30
Speaker 1: It's tricky to negotiate directly with the player. The confidence and the positivity and saying that Lamar is going to be there in the offseason, it all speaks to me like they aren't too far away from working something out there on an extension which will help their cap situation.

00:31:44
Speaker 3: Let's go to two more receivers.

00:31:47
Speaker 1: Receivers, it's the easiest thing to just like, there's only so many targets to go around, and I thought two receivers that are entering their contract years. So I'm already starting to look at the twenty twenty seven free agents and rash Rice and Josh Downs are two interesting names on that. Josh Downs with the Colts or she Rice similar situations in that their teams didn't bring in guys to compete with them for snaps and then her targets, and you think about Downs.

00:32:15
Speaker 3: I know Tyler Warren is there, but Josh Downs was.

00:32:18
Speaker 1: Their leading receiver in twenty four and that was with Alec Pierce there, that was with Michael Pittman there. Pierce is coming off an injury, Pittman's gone Westbrook Aakinene is their number three, So I just think, you know, it's a nice spot for Downs to maybe produce. And then with Rashi Rice, we learned the league is not going to punish him for his latest infraction. He's had this suspension, and you just think about who. It's just the same guys. They're catching passes. It's Xavier Worthy, it's Kelsey. If I had to pick someone to be the volume receiver, do you do you disagree that ra she Rice is the most likely option.

00:32:54
Speaker 4: No, I don't disagree at all.

00:32:55
Speaker 2: It's he's clearly the most likely option unless Xavier Worthy can suddenly become like a vacuum for which don't.

00:33:00
Speaker 3: He's got to do it.

00:33:01
Speaker 1: Though, Like Rice is more of an idea than like when I looked at his production in the adah.

00:33:05
Speaker 2: Wow, it's really and he was healthy before he got hurt. He was still proving to be or at least trending toward being that guy. It's funny, though, because I agree with both these points. But it's hilarious that you can be helped by the draft just by your team not bringing in competition for you. Like I don't really like the Colt's receiver situation with Westbrook at Uene as the number three.

00:33:23
Speaker 4: No offense to him or anything.

00:33:24
Speaker 2: You do have Tyler Warren, Like you said, so it kind of you know, pads it out a little bit, but it's just hilarious how it's like, well, these guys they they won because they didn't get any new competition.

00:33:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm thinking about like Pickens and Downs and Rice specifically to like this. These are big years in their career, a contract when Downs is healthy and right. I don't think people realize what an an incredible receiver he is. I saw some guys compared to him in the draft, and you're like, like a plus Josh Downs. But it's guys getting taken in the third down like Josh Downs. You know, hold your tongue. His ceiling is very high of me. Some Josh Downs number three on my list. Again, it's a guy who benefited from from not anyone going near him. Jordan rodrieg Our friends said that the Jaguars were interested and potentially trading up for Jenarian Price.

00:34:13
Speaker 3: Specifically, the Seahawks take.

00:34:14
Speaker 1: Him in the first round and that leaves Baseil Tuton as the dude in Jacksonville. So this is kind of a fantasy take. But with Chris Rodriguez as the next guy, you know, Baseiel Tuton.

00:34:24
Speaker 3: It's Twoton time in Jacksonville.

00:34:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's suddenly very important to work Basil Tuton, as we covered on a previous show. Yeah, it's uh. I don't really like this running back room. But you know what, if he can, if he can be your traditional bell cow, then by all means, go for it.

00:34:37
Speaker 4: I'm just not super convident in it.

00:34:40
Speaker 1: I think he is really explosive and I don't know what it's going to look like, but he fits the profile possibly for me that just has like one incredible season where he gets taken in the fourth round of fantasy drafts and maybe never repeats that again, but ends up with.

00:34:54
Speaker 4: It, gets overdrafted for the next three years.

00:34:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets eighteen hundred yards from scrimmage because the situation is great. In the offense, it's great. So I'm high on him. My last two picks are quarterbacks. It's Tyler Shuck and Gino Smith. Let's start with Shuck first. I just think you look at what they did in the draft. You give them another guy in Jordan Dyson. You give him Oscar delp in the third round as a tight end. You got to guard there in the fourth round. They just needed some multiplicity in terms of their offense in general. And I think they did a nice job kind of helping out that room with Tyler Schuck.

00:35:34
Speaker 2: I think it was very clear where they felt they needed to direct their resources with their first four picks, three being on the offensive side of the ball. So yeah, I totally agree with Shuck, you know, getting helped by this Now we hope, big question mark, but the Saints have had an issue with keeping their top receivers on the field. Obviously, Chris Olave has had a hard time staying on the field. Tyson has an injury history. You hope that they're both in the field. If they're both in the field for the majority of the season, then yes, Tyler Schuck definitely got helped by this draft, but that still remains to be seen.

00:36:03
Speaker 1: And like a special teams guy Barry and Brown in the sixth round, but who knows. But then Bryce Lance was one of my favorite kind of fourth round receivers.

00:36:11
Speaker 3: Some upside there.

00:36:13
Speaker 1: Maybe I was subconsciously throwing the whole offseason in the mix here, because you bring in David Edwards at guard, you bring in ETN.

00:36:18
Speaker 3: I just think they've done a good job.

00:36:20
Speaker 1: We'll get to some teams that maybe haven't I think, focusing on helping out their young quarterback here and then Gino Smith the ultimate young quarterback that you want to build around with the New York Jets. I know it's a tough situation. Frank Reich, does he still have it?

00:36:36
Speaker 3: We'll see.

00:36:38
Speaker 1: But suddenly you're in a situation after adding Omar Cooper Junior and Kenyan Sadik that like, look, Ady Mitchell might be receiver like option number five behind Bryce, Bryce Hall rather and Garrett Wilson of course there too.

00:36:55
Speaker 3: That's like a pretty good group for general to throw too.

00:36:59
Speaker 2: It's funny because when you I'm not a fan of draft grades, Okay.

00:37:03
Speaker 7: Good offensive line too, good tackles, like, give me something, But when you like, look at the consensus opinion or the generally almost consensus opinion on this draft, the Jets land near the top for like everybody giving on a grades.

00:37:15
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Okay, I'm not being a hater because you got David Bailey, you like Sadik.

00:37:20
Speaker 4: I don't know if I.

00:37:21
Speaker 2: Necessarily agree with the overall grade, but I like the idea of Gino having more guys to throw to.

00:37:27
Speaker 1: What problem do you have Bailey with taking him over Reese was the only part I didn't really love.

00:37:33
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, but that was good. That was a given that was gonna happen.

00:37:36
Speaker 2: I just think that because they had three first round picks end up getting back in the first round to take Cooper, that that kind of inflates the grade.

00:37:42
Speaker 3: Overall and our little guy.

00:37:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the Ponds pick too. I'm not hating on the class itself. I'm just thinking like the grade might be a little high.

00:37:50
Speaker 4: But good for Gino. More people to throw to protect him now, please, I.

00:37:53
Speaker 1: Just remember the reason I put him number one overall is the news that Russell Wilson was meeting with the Jets to possibly be Gino's backup.

00:38:01
Speaker 4: Oh you are You are so spiteful, so petty?

00:38:05
Speaker 3: No, no, no.

00:38:06
Speaker 1: The reason the reason I put Geno one was the reporting immediately was the organization talked to Gino Smith early in the off season about what backups he would like behind him. They're asking Gino Smith has like personnel control on the Jets, that's how much they believe in him. I was like, why is this dudes getting out there? And he mentioned his great relationship with Russell Wilson from when they were together in Seattle.

00:38:34
Speaker 3: And so we got Geno Smith picking his own.

00:38:36
Speaker 2: Backups, Gino picking a backup who used to used to be a backup too.

00:38:42
Speaker 3: Even like the current.

00:38:43
Speaker 1: MVP, Matthew Stafford, he's not getting that kind of respect. Geno Smith getting all the respect. I'm tongue in cheek. I don't know if Geno's really has the final stay there, but it's hilarious to me that they asked, you know, about that desperation there. I think that coming out was like, hey, Gino is our starter. Worry Gina will be the starter. But still it's kind of funny. All right, nine guys hurt by the draft. I mentioned some young quarterbacks who maybe their teams could have done a little bit more.

00:39:09
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with Jaden Daniels at number.

00:39:11
Speaker 1: Nine, all these other ones where the entire focus is doing right by them, and we got a first time offensive coordinator and David Blau.

00:39:19
Speaker 3: I'm hoping for the best. But that's a question.

00:39:24
Speaker 1: You didn't get Jeremiah Love, you know, with the number seven overall pick, you didn't get Cardinal Tate. You added Antonio Williams from Clemson in the third round another slot receiver didn't really work Lay's mid round Slottish receivers with Luke McCaffrey or Jalen Lane so far. And so we're hitting year three for Jaydon Daniels and who is our wide receiver too?

00:39:47
Speaker 3: Exactly? Shook?

00:39:48
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I guess you want to say. It's definitely not trailing Burke. So I kind of like the upside there Doanmmy Brown. Maybe he's number two, I mean he's not.

00:39:56
Speaker 1: I mean, it might be Antonio Williams, their their rookie third round pick, but.

00:40:00
Speaker 2: They also didn't have a lot of picks though You're right, like they didn't help him out a lot, but they had a first round or they spent a third to fifth and two, sixth and a seventh, Like you're not going to get a big haul out of that.

00:40:09
Speaker 4: I guess they kind of, I.

00:40:09
Speaker 1: Guess, but maybe it's more of just a statement of the whole offseason.

00:40:13
Speaker 3: You get Chico Konco and you get sheet defense.

00:40:16
Speaker 4: Defense was their problem.

00:40:17
Speaker 1: I'm just like year three and we're rolling with with Jalen Lane or Antonio Williams as wide receiver too.

00:40:23
Speaker 3: It's not great, A good week for a bill. By the way, krossky.

00:40:26
Speaker 1: Merritt, no one coming in to uh compete with him and Rashad White, because I don't think Rashoda White can can hold on to that job all by himself. So number eight JK. Dobbins the running back for the Broncos. You drafted Jonah Coleman from Washington in the fourth round.

00:40:42
Speaker 3: You know Dobbins.

00:40:43
Speaker 1: I like Dobbins, but he was kind of a fallback plan and free agency they were they were trying to get Kenneth Walker, ETN. And they bring back Dobbins and then you draft maybe his immediate replacement there in the fourth round. There's a lot of expectations for a fourth round pick, but Jonah Coleman will be in the mix.

00:40:57
Speaker 4: I believe in a world in which JK.

00:40:59
Speaker 2: Dobbins never suffers multiple injuries and he's one of the better backs in the NFL. And I believe in that world as an alternate, like an alternate universe, just because you see it in glimpses. It's just never carried throughout an entire season. And I would love it if he's because when they had him in the backfield last year, they were a very good running team. Then they lost him and it was suddenly the RJ. Harvey Show and it just wasn't as good as it was before.

00:41:20
Speaker 4: No offense to r J. Harvey.

00:41:22
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a tough one with this offense and with Dobbins, but you need competition also, Sean Payton, will you please give Julia McLaughlin the ball just a little bit more, because like he just doesn't play long stretches and I think he can still help you out.

00:41:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got kind of boxed out.

00:41:41
Speaker 4: He might get boxed out again.

00:41:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Jonah Coleman, I think is a good player. Between those two they should be fine, but they're not gonna be big playmakers. Number seven, I just put Hollywood Brown here. Remember when the Eagles signed Hollywood Brown and he was like it was just DeVante Smith, Hollywood Brown and a bunch of you know, tumbleweeds. Now since then, they've they've brought in Dante Wicks, and they brought in MacKaye Lemon, and they brought in Eli Stowers and Dallas Goddard's back and so justice for Hollywood Brown is probably like, man, I thought I could have been wide receiver too. I'm like wide receiver four or five. Now, let's talk Malik Willis. I know they added a Caden Proctor offensive line in the first round, but he's more of like a run blocking guy. And they had a couple of third round receivers. I like taking a chance on Chris Bell from Louisville coming off a tourney. Acl might not be an immediate help. Caleb Douglass was a weird, surprising third onund pick. The reality is we're getting to the end of the offseason and if I had to guess who their wide receiver one is wide receiver one, I'd probably go Jalen Tolbert former Cowboy.

00:42:42
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is a two's on that team. Don't forget about too too. But yeah, this is a weird draft for a first draft for John Eric Sullivan with the Dolphins. I think they overdrafted a couple of pass catchers and Douglas and Will kach Marrick for the tight end from Ohio State, and.

00:43:00
Speaker 1: Oh good, good blocker. Kasmrick was kind of at the end of that run. Ali had him as his favorite blocker in the class.

00:43:05
Speaker 2: For what Yeah, but I mean, you must you must really be building around those pillars. You must really be building around given h hand three hundred carries in a season.

00:43:14
Speaker 3: I know. I just it's it's tough. It's not.

00:43:16
Speaker 1: It's a little less about the draft and more about the whole offseason that it's just gonna be tough out there for Malik Willis. How about your guy Jerry Judy watching the two receivers, Denzel Boston come in, Casey Concepcion, come in, my underdog for offensive Rookie of the Year. And then right after the draft Andrew Berry called Jerry Judy his bell cow wide receiver.

00:43:37
Speaker 4: You buy guy, No, I'm not buying that at all. Jerry juden't needs a fire lit under him. He had his moments, for sure.

00:43:46
Speaker 2: We think about that Denver game a couple of years ago, him and Jamis, but the consistency is not there, both in terms of production and hands, and he needs some competition. So he gets hurt by this because now he's actually got to go earn you know, his target chair. But I think ultimately you could help him out the long run.

00:44:02
Speaker 1: Just had an idea of a good offseason show, maybe a camp show players most likely to get traded in the neck, you know, before the deadline, it could either be in camp or the deadline.

00:44:13
Speaker 4: Jerryms who would to us?

00:44:17
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy's on that list? All right, I have pop quiz for you. This is it's unfair. Uh, give me the total number of offensive players This includes offensive lineman any position, not including undrafted free agents added by the Green Bay Packers organization in the entire offseason offensive players added. Now we can think of someone's that that are gone. Of course, Romeo Romeo Dobbs is gone. Do Tavian Wicks has gone. But total offensive players every position, running back, tight end, fullback, guard, tackle, all of them.

00:44:54
Speaker 3: Center. How many offensive players added this offseason?

00:44:57
Speaker 4: Four?

00:44:58
Speaker 2: Two.

00:45:00
Speaker 1: They added two players this offseason, Sky Moore, who you might not even count as a receiver, more of a returner.

00:45:07
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:45:08
Speaker 1: And then a fifth round pick by the name of Micah Morris, a guard that I'm not overly familiar with. Those are the two offensive players added to the entire rafter this offseason. So I say, Jordan Love has been hurt just out of general kind of malaise on the offensive side.

00:45:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt like there was maybe an addition by subtraction with getting rid of Wicks.

00:45:27
Speaker 4: At least if you read through the life.

00:45:28
Speaker 3: Yes, is another guy they lost, and.

00:45:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Elton Jenkins also left. He's been hurt a lot. Yeah, a lot of departures. Now you think about it. They need a kind of a reset of sorts within this team, just offensively, and I think they're trying to do that. But it doesn't help when you don't add a lot of talent in the offseason. Adding is not always a sign that you're going to be better, but when you don't, it can be concerning.

00:45:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a little bit of a tongue in cheek here, Like you're right. Continuity is great, and I get draft develop it's a young team, but I think you help your margin for error with better depth if you add more veterans along with the process, or invest a little earlier in the draft. I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers are a team that adds some veterans. And so this is a bit of an incomplete grade, but you know, they really haven't given him anything new. Number two and three on my list, I put Tyler Algier and Jacoby Brissett together because to me, these are familiar stories. Algiers like just signed two years, twelve and a half million, and he's like, oh, we're doing this again. I'm with a I thought I was gonna get to be kind of the guy or have have a nice resume builder for my next contract, and here I am with like the best freaking running back to enter the league since the last running back I shared the backfield with.

00:46:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's like a magnet for Oh, you have Algier on your roster, Go get the best running back in the class, who's, like you said, the best since the last one. But I would just like to point out those haters who said they signed Tyler Aljier, they're not going to draft Jeremiah Love. You were wrong, and now unfortunately Algie. I mean, Algier's never been a lead guy anyway. He's always been a change of pace, hard running running back that you throw in there.

00:47:14
Speaker 3: It would have been the lead guy in a committee. Here.

00:47:17
Speaker 1: The thing where people really got confused to me was like, well, you know they have James Connor and Trey Benson. They made James Connor take a big pay cut that they probably would have cut him.

00:47:28
Speaker 3: He's had serious injuries.

00:47:29
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been a great player, but he might not be on the roster at the start of the year, neither matred servant and then Jacoby Brissett I threw it here too, because you know, he wants more money at quarterback, and they don't even draft Ty Simpson.

00:47:43
Speaker 3: I mean they draft Carson Beck.

00:47:45
Speaker 1: You're that desperate for a young quarterback who kind of like in a perfect world, would be like a Jacoby Brissette type of player. And was a little under the radar with the twenty four Patriots that for all like the leadership they supposedly wanted out of Jacoby and and Okay, he's gonna mentor and Drake May will learn from him. The reports from the people who covered that team was actually Jacoby was kind of pissed that, like he lost the job to Drake May. Wasn't like maybe the greatest, Like he thought he had a real chance to be the guy before the drafted May and they just all went sideways. And now he's maybe in a similar ish situation.

00:48:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you want to talk about I don't know if I would say justsfunction, but a mishandling of the situation, or at least a way to upset Jacoby is by drafting Carson Back and then like speaking out loud publicly like, well, we'll see how much he can handle, because that's what Monty Austin Ford said, We'll see how much he can handle. We're not eliminating him from the competition. They could happen. So yeah, this has got a weird situation with them.

00:48:41
Speaker 3: Justice for Jacoby.

00:48:42
Speaker 1: I know, I'm probably the only person who cares about where Jacoby's at number one on the list was it was easy. It was Matthew Stafford. He I don't know if you saw the Lebron quote after the Lakers lost Game five to the Rockets and they asked him about some comments about you know, who's the better you know, one of the Rockets, I forget who was Jabari Smith?

00:49:04
Speaker 3: I think said we're the better team.

00:49:06
Speaker 1: They asked him about that quote, like what do you think about him saying we're the better team. He's like, I'm too old for this, Like I don't care about stuff like that. I bring that all up to say Matthew Stafford. I think when he saw when he got that call from Sean McVay that they're bringing in Ty Simpson, I think he thought, I'm too old for this. I'm the MVP. I gotta deal with this. I just I don't want to deal with it. If I'm Matthew Stafford.

00:49:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I understand it from his perspective. And also any competitor is going to be upset when you bring in, you know, your hopefully what they think is his long term replacement. I see both sides of this, where it's like, yeah, you have the whole you know, Rogers, you know, draft and love thing, where it's like, hey, why didn't we go get a weapon? I only have so many years left and you're using that to plan for the future without me. What the hell? I just want MVP. But I also see it from the RAMS perspective. But if we're talking strictly as guys who got hurt by the draft, Staffords Ego probably got hurt a little bit by the draft, A little bit.

00:50:03
Speaker 1: Just annoying, just something I just would find that annoying. We we gotta be so laser focused on going to win that ship that we probably should have had last year. It's a coin flip, but man, that one that one's stung. And instead of giving me mackay Lemon, we're counting on DeVante Adams staying healthy the whole year. We're counting on Pooka obviously keep his head on straight, because if not, it's you know, we could we could have used another receiver. I don't buy that argument of like, well, how you know you really think a rookie receiver is going to make the difference between winning the Super Bowl time. Yeah, maybe a lot of rookie receivers have contributed a lot. And I think they the Rams showed you what they felt about Adams when they were kind of dangling him in the trade, Like mm hmm, just saying annoying if I'm Matthew Stafford, not annoying to do a show here with Nick Shook. Look, it's been a great week. It feels like the week that started with the draft basically hasn't ended. So we are gonna take a nice little three day weekend here on NFL Daily. Let's hit that music and get out of here, and we will be back on Monday.

00:51:15
Speaker 3: It's been fun. Hope everyone can catch up.

00:51:18
Speaker 1: Thank you to Shook and good luck to your cavaliers this week, and.

00:51:22
Speaker 3: We're gonna be back on Monday.

00:51:24
Speaker 1: By the way, Seth Payne back on the show by popular demand, going over some early.

00:51:29
Speaker 3: Overs and unders. We will see them,