Instant Reaction: Trump Delivers Joint Address To Congress

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President Donald Trump acknowledged there may be an “adjustment period” as his tariffs take effect, but defended his push to remake the US economy and declared “momentum is back” in a primetime speech to Congress on Tuesday night.

“Tariffs are about making America rich again and making America great again. And it’s happening, and it will happen rather quickly,” Trump said in the longest-ever presidential address to a joint session. “There’ll be a little disturbance, but we’re okay with that. It won’t be much.”

Trump’s address comes at a pivotal moment. Data shows new strains on the economy as factory activity stagnates, inflation simmers, consumer confidence ebbs, and stocks lag behind equity markets in other countries.

Stocks swung wildly Tuesday following Trump’s most recent tariff actions against the US’s largest trading partners, with the S&P 500 Index closing at its lowest level since before the president’s election last year. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick hinted the administration might announce a pathway for tariff relief for goods from Mexico and Canada — two of the countries hit — that are covered by a free trade agreement as soon as tomorrow.

For instant reaction and analysis to President Donald Trump's joint address to Congress, plus Michigan Democratic Senator Elissa Slotkin's speech in response, Bloomberg Balance of Power hosts Joe Mathieu and Kailey Leinz along with Bloomberg Surveillance cohost Annmarie Hordern speak with:

    • Bloomberg politics contributors Rick Davis and Jeanne Sheehan Zaino
    • US Secretary of Energy Chris Wright
    • US Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Scott Turner
    • Senator Adam Schiff of California

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Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:13.520 President Donald Trump speaking to a joint session of Congress 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:18.000 for almost exactly one hundred minutes, as seen and heard 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.480 live on Bloomberg Television and Radio. I'm Kaylee Lines alongside 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.360 Joe Matthew in Washington, where, of course we just heard 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.080 President Trump covering a lot of ground in the first 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.000 time he has given an address like this in the 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:32.640 House Chamber in five years. He is still standing at 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.280 the rostrum, Joe soaking it all in as we still 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.680 hear the applause from those who are gathered, and he 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:39.879 will begin making his way out of the chamber, certainly 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:44.000 expected to be greeting members of the body as he goes. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:45.800 It's like we saw on the way in the White House. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.400 Did schedule the President to be in the chamber at 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.919 about eleven twenty pm Eastern times, So he's got some 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.840 talking likely to do here as the Sergeant at Arms 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:58.240 of the US House, William McFarland, guides him out of 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.080 the rostrum. If you're with us on Bloomberg and on YouTube, 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:04.120 you see the glad handing already begin with members of 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.959 the military. Kaylee, When we consider the news that was 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.759 made tonight, and we can spend some time fact checking 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:11.600 some of the stuff that we heard from the president. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:15.759 Only a couple of real headlines that would be justified 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:17.920 for our audience here with some of the issues that 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.040 we were talking about. One of them, of course, tariffs 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.679 when it comes to Canada and Mexico. It appears that 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:27.400 the Commerce secretaries remarks Kaylee earlier were not accurate. These tariffs, 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:29.280 at least from what we heard from the President, will 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.240 not be rescinded tomorrow. And then the Chips Act a 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.840 redhead on the terminal. About halfway through the speech, We're 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.760 not going to give chip makers any money from the 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.240 Chips Act. He said, you should get rid of the 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.920 Chips Act, mister Speaker, you should use the money to 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:42.640 reduce the debt. 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:44.800 And of course that was not his only ask of 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.919 the Speaker or the other members of Congress who were gathered. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.520 He was pitching them on tax cuts that he would 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.360 like to see implemented or at least extended through legislation, 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.200 as well as funding for the border something he touched 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.680 on a lot both of those issues. Speaking to the 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.960 date with which he believes he was elected in November 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.280 for a focusing on the economy and on immigration. We 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.160 certainly heard a lot of that tonight as we see 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.480 the President shaking hands with members on the floor. If 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:15.320 you're with us on Bloomberg TV and on radio. Of course, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.079 we are expecting that this will last for some time 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:22.160 as we consider Joe and you mentioned the notion here 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.320 of all of the different things that we could talk 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.320 about that we heard from the President, many of us, 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.160 many of it, of course, things we've heard from him 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.520 repeatedly over the course of his six weeks in office 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:31.919 thus far. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:33.919 That's for sure quite the scrum there on the floor 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:35.600 of the House as he tries to make his way 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.960 through the lawmakers. And our signature panel is with us 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.160 right now. They were watching and listening along with you, 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.799 Bloomberg Politics contributors. Rick Davis, Partner at Stone Court Capital, 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:49.600 our republican strategist, alongside Democratic analyst Jeanie Schanzino, Senior Democracy 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:52.400 Fellow at the Center for the Study of the Presidency 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.000 in Congress. In hour and forty five minutes, Rick, how 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:56.360 did he do? 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:57.480 Yeah? 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.520 I think that you know, he made his case to 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:03.760 the America people that his administration's on track and that 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.600 he's accomplished more in a very short time that he's 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:10.320 been in office than any other presidency in history, including 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:14.000 I would say, the comparisons he was making to George Washington. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.240 So he went back to the founding of our nation 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.840 and grated himself successful. I do think it was a 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.600 chippy speech. I mean, he came in loaded for bear. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:26.440 Democrats also loaded for bear. Caused quite a ruckus at 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.120 the very beginning, something I've never seen the likes of 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.000 in this kind of a dignified procession. 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.480 And so it'll be interesting to see. 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:42.240 How much is reported on the inside the hall activity, protests, 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.840 things that were going on that I think took a 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.040 little bit from the chamber tonight. 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.520 But he got through it all, and I think, you 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:51.080 know he. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.440 Will look at this as a successful night in his administration. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.600 Well, Genie, what Rick, of course is alluding to is 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.920 just three minutes into the President's remarks, Congressman Al Green, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.280 the Democrat from Texas, yelling and raising his cane, saying 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.760 you have no mandate to cut medicaid. He was actually 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.839 escorted out of the chamber, removed from the chamber by 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.240 the sergeant at arms. That was not the only time 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.320 we saw Democrats interject there was also chance of lie 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.520 when the President was talking specifically about the efforts of 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.560 DOGE that they're finding hundreds of billions of dollars in fraud, 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.520 citing what he said are different age groups that are 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.599 receiving Social Security checks well into the hundreds. Obviously that 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.800 is not factually accurate. Those people may still be on 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.640 the rolls, but that doesn't mean that they're receiving benefits. 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.320 But what did you make of the response he was 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.640 able to elicit at times from the other side of 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:37.280 the aisle. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.440 Well, it is not what the Democratic leadership wanted, and 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.840 they were very very clear about that. And you know, 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.480 al Green, I think was the first, and then there 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.719 were many. We even saw Rashida to lead. She was 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.280 fact she was responding in real time with a whiteboard. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:58.640 I've ever seen anything like that. But the reality is 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.760 is that by the time this each ended, many Democrats 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:06.760 had already left the floor out of protest, you know, 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.559 and the President engaged with them. We heard him use 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.760 an unfortunate term to refer to the Senator from Massachusetts, 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:20.560 Elizabeth Warren. And so it was a very very contentious 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.159 speech and I think it speaks to how divided the 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.600 American public is, and that is something we have seen. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.039 Anybody who thought the president was going to come in 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:36.960 tonight and speak to all Americans was wrong. As Rick mentioned, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.719 he came in in. One of the first things he 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:43.880 said is he compared himself to our amazing founders and 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.520 said he is a better president than even George Washington. 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.280 And that of course elicited ron's and boos from Democrats. 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.480 So this is a president who is doubling down as 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.080 he always has on his base. And you know, even 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:03.320 the remarks he made to things like tariffs, telling farmers, 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:07.000 much to the dismay of even Republicans, that they would 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:11.039 have fun, you know as they battle with tariffs, which 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.520 will make it very very hard for them. Police officers, 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.480 you know he is going to you know, think about 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:22.719 and talk about supporting police officers. You heard Democrats yell back, 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:27.160 what about January sixth, because of course those police officers 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.200 did not feel that they were treated well. So you know, 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.880 it was a very contentious speech from start to finish. 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.960 There was even a Democrat who held up a speech 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.600 that said this is not normal that was ricked down 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.240 by a Republican well, and it was not normal. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.159 President Trump has made his way out of the House 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.560 Chamber now, and obviously he'll have a couple of folks 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.760 to talk to on his way out of the building, Kaylee, 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.200 he is scheduled to be there for a bit, and 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:51.760 they do have a bit to talk about. But Rick, 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.080 I wonder what will this be remembered for the way 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:58.039 it started, lawmakers actually being escorted from the room, the 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.960 chanting and so forth, or some the lines that Donald 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:01.960 Trump managed to land. 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.520 No, I think the circus nature of it will be 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:09.280 forgotten pretty quickly. Those things don't usually tend to lend 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:13.160 a lasting impression. Look, I think we learned something important tonight, 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:17.480 which was it sounds like the Ukraine relationship with the 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:21.080 United States has been mended, and that we're going to 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:25.080 start moving toward a more robust relationship with Ukraine again, 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:29.120 and that there are conversations that Trump's having with Putin 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.160 in the Russian side toward some kind of a ceasefire 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:32.920 or peace plan. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.400 So to me, that is a big moving part. 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.520 But I think anybody who says that Trump isn't serious 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:43.320 about keeping these tariffs on is missing the whole speech 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:44.920 tonight him. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:46.600 These were the soul of the. 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.600 Country, these tariffs, and he's been preaching these for a 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.760 long time. I think this is public policy is probably 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.880 going to be priced in after tonight in a much 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.400 longer term way than what it's been. 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.680 Yeah, he said with the tariffs there may be a 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.800 bit of an adjustment period for the farmers specifically, and 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.160 then later said that there will be a little disturbance. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:06.880 But we're okay with that. 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:07.840 I guess pain. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:09.000 We'll see how much. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:09.480 Pain there is. 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:11.560 Everybody really is okay with that. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.040 Rick Davis and Jeanie Shanzino, our signature panel will be 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:15.640 sticking with us. But right now we want to check 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.040 back in with Bloomberg's a Marie Hordern who was in 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.040 Statuary Hall at the Capitol, and Amrie. I would imagine 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.120 people are now flooding out of the chamber and heading your. 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:27.800 Way, absolutely flooding out of the chamber. Some Democratic senators 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.120 we did see flood out a little bit earlier, like 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.680 Senator Bernie Sanders, who left with there still being you know, 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.120 about thirty minutes ago, and there's still some time left 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.680 in this speech. I'd love to pick up on Rick's 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.120 point there though about tariffs, because there was a little 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:45.040 bit of nuance to what Trump said, Yes, one hundred percent. 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.080 Trump believes you tax us, we tax you. 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.360 He reiterated the timeline and when tariffs will be going on, 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:55.120 especially April second, when it comes to those reciprocal tariffs. 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.320 But we heard earlier today from Commerce Secretary Howard Latnik, 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.840 who I'll be speaking to tomorrow, and he really opened 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.840 the door for potentially some sort of deal maybe bringing 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:06.360 down the levee when. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:07.600 It comes to Canada and Mexico. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.920 And Trump said something tonight that I think is is being. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:11.560 Missed right now. 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.280 He said he spoke to the heads of three major 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.680 automakers today. We know that the automakers are the ones 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:21.320 that if there are USFCA compliant, they want to be 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.840 a carve out. So potentially there's room for tariffs maybe 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.760 to stay on. But maybe the word exemptions is going 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.640 to start to really percolate when it comes to how 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.640 this administration is going to be talking about trade. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.160 Bloomberg's and Marie Hord Duram live on Capitol Hill. We'll 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.920 be checking back with Anne Marie interesting Rick as we 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.360 fold the panel back in here. To think that the 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.960 Commerce Secretary stepped in front of the president today. Is 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:46.600 that what happened? 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:48.280 Yeah, Look, I mean he got a lot of attention 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.120 today with the press by making some comments that somehow 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.160 within the next twenty four hours there'd be something new 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:55.280 to report on tariffs. 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:56.199 And maybe that's true. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:56.439 Right. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.120 We don't take for granted the fact that Donald Trump 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.080 is the sole, you know, policy expert when it comes 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.040 to these tariffs, and he's going to make the decisions 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.320 on him. But look, I think we're really talking around 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.320 the edges. Tariffs are going to be a regime that 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:16.080 Donald Trump uses to punish countries that don't do his bidding, 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.439 to settle scores when it comes to trade, to equalize 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:25.600 these reciprocal tariffs in order to equalize it and lower 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:31.000 our trade deficits, and to take some pressure off American taxpayers. 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:34.520 Who he is intent on lowering the burden. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:40.200 Of taxes on them. So it is a comprehensive plan 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.040 that I think, you know, he reiterated today. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.640 And sure, these tariffs can go up and down. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.160 But there will be tariffs for the seeable future. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.560 Well, and obviously, to your point, Ricky sees this as 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.439 feeding into the overall revenue picture as he's pursuing tax 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.240 cuts he said in this address, and we've heard this 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.280 floated a few times now, Genie, this notion that we're 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.439 going to balance the federal budget. The plans that Congress 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.440 currently has laid out on spending in taxes do not. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.199 We should point out call for a balanced budget right 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:08.960 now that is not actually on the table. 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.839 That is not on the table. Of course, we know 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.200 Donald Trump added a lot to the debt in his 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.720 first term, and with all the promises he's making about 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.640 tax cuts, coupled with where we are at thirty six 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.160 trillion dollars in debt, it's you're hard to imagine that 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.319 they are going to get anywhere close. 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:32.240 To that special coverage on Bloomberg TV and radio. I'm 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.720 Joe Matthew in Washington. Want to get back to Capitol 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.199 Hill now where Bloomberg's and Marie Hordern is surrounded by 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.959 a sea of dignitaries and lawmakers who were at the 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:41.720 speech earlier. 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.880 And Marie, it's absolutely packed here, especially when it comes 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:51.160 to the president's cabinet. They're his secretaries, and specifically given 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.760 the fact that he made a lot of news this 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.640 evening when it comes to things like tariffs and energy, 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.040 that's why we're so lucky right now to be joined 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.679 by Energy Secretary Chris Wright, an individual. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.439 Who made the move from the business sector. 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:08.760 You're an engineer as well, spent your entire career and 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.199 energy and now you're going to be leading the president's policies. 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.560 I want to pick on one thing he said today. 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.920 The President keeps talking about raw minerals. 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.840 What in the United States do we have in terms 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:24.319 of rare earth or critical minerals that we can actually 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.600 start building and digging here? 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:31.280 Oh, we have tremendous mineral resources, or I should say 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.080 underground minerals. To make them resources, you've got to be 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.720 able to permit a mind and build the mind and 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.640 develop it. So the United States is historically a big 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:43.240 mining country, but in the last years it's become very 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.679 hard to permit new minds. But we have antimonia cre 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.800 a key defense metal in this country that's not being 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:53.679 mined today. We've got ability to expand our copper production, 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.960 a key medal for industrial growth. 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.160 There's been a copper mind on hold in Arizona. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.880 What are the play for that exactly? And we'll dig 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:03.920 into that one deeper. 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.720 But that looks like a high grade copper mind that 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.680 should move forward, the resolution of mind, I believe it's called. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.559 So we have a ton of resources, it's our country 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.040 has just become a place where it's hard to do 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.240 something and it's easy to stop something. 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.959 So part of our goal in the Trump administration is. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:24.000 To make it easier for businesses and entrepreneurs to develop 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.280 resources in the United States, create jobs here in the 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.480 United States, and therefore push prices down. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:30.120 How long do you think it's going to take. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.559 Mining has been historically very slow. 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.360 The United States was recently ranked the second slowest country 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.440 in the world to develop a mind. From finding a 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.640 resource to developing a mind has averaged over twenty years. 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.120 But there's projects further along that we want to nudge 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.360 over the line and get into production. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:53.280 Always I asked that question because the pendulum shifts so much, 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.320 so that if you're an investor, potentially, what happens in 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.599 four years if you put money into a project like 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.839 keys on pipeline and then it gets yanked with a 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.240 new administration. How are you going to give the business 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.160 community this confidence that they can invest and that investment 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:10.040 is here to stay. 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.360 That is a great question. Some of the things we 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.360 can do like an energy department. We just stopped permitting 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.000 new LNG export terminals in last administration. 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.320 We've immediately started that back. 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.200 But other things, to your point, things that we need 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.119 to change in law, are in statute. 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:27.600 They may take a little. 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:31.000 Longer to happen, but we want to make some permanent changes. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.840 So the United States is a desired place to invest 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.800 in again, as we have been historically. But I think 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.960 you've seen in this president's first forty five days announcements 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.920 of enormous size investments coming to this country. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:45.600 So I think the feel of a. 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.560 Different business climate, the feel of the return of common 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.760 sense is there. But we do have to put more 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.560 of this actually in the law so it's long lasting. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:54.800 We saw OPEC. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.680 Plus say they're going to add more barrel to the market. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.240 They've been on hiatus with this for about two years. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:03.360 At the same time, President Trump's Treasury secretary talks about 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.120 the United States adding three million more barrels. 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.320 What's the price that's acceptable for. 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.560 Consumers but also enough for drillers to want to make 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:12.920 sure that they're drilling again. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:17.240 So dependent upon costs, you know, historically maybe that spend 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:18.359 seventy to eighty. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:19.600 Dollars the last four years. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.800 But I think with Trump administration, it's going to become 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.200 easier and less risky to get permits. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.840 The cost to do business is going to go down. 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:32.640 So I think even with tariffs, I think so the 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.160 tariffs right now are on the margin to push investment 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.560 into the United States to make more materials and more 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.720 support in the United States. But I think you're going 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.600 to see break even costs become lower in the United States, 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.920 and we should see a drift downward in oil prices 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:48.480 as we've seen the last two months. 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.720 Do you have a price I can't predict the future. 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.320 I'd be an oil trader. But what we want is 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.760 lower prices. Lower prices for oil, lower prices for gasoline 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.960 and diesel, electricity and home heating, all of those we 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.680 want to increase supply and therefore drive down price. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.480 Energy Secretary Chris Right, thank you so much for your time. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.800 That was, of course the new Energy Secretary, Chris Right, 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.000 repeating what we hear a lot from this president. 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:14.280 Lower energy prices. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.680 Drill, Baby Drill got a big applause in the chamber 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.840 this evening. Bloomberg's Amory Hordar, and thank you so much. 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:22.440 We'll check back in with her in just a moment, 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.720 but we returned first to our signature panel in Bloomberg 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:28.080 Politics and tributors Rick Davis and Jeanie shan Zeno. Genie, 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.160 I want to get your reaction quickly while we can 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.160 to Senator Alyssa. Slotkin's response that we just heard Amory 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.680 was talking to the Energy secretary there about tariff. Senator 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:39.160 Slotkins says a trade war will hurt manufacturing in farmers. 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.960 If he's not careful, speaking of the president, he could 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.240 walk us right into a recession. Did she have the 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:46.080 right message? 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.240 I think she did. I mean, her broad message overall 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.040 on the economy and security was that there is a 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.480 right way to make change, and she said change is needed, 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.880 and there's a reckless way to do it. And she 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.920 said Donald Trump is veering on the reckless end of that. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.480 And she gave as an example, you know, Elon Musk 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.000 talking about the fact that social security is the greatest 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.320 Ponzi scheme. That was just a reminder to what she 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.000 says is the reckless way in which Trump, both on 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:19.119 the economy and on national security, is pursuing these policies. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.040 So it's a tough speech to give. But I thought 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.960 her tone, particularly in contrast to Donald Trump's. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:26.240 Was right on. 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.200 What did you think of this? A typically thankless job, 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.360 if not a humiliating one to deliver the party response. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:37.040 Democrats chose to make it clean, no kitchen tables, just 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.760 a bunch of American flags, play it straight to the camera. 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:41.200 Did she deliver the message? 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.200 Yeah, I think she delivered a Republican message. 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.000 I mean, like, which side is she on? I mean, 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.000 she's talking about Ron Reagan, she's talking about national debt. 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:53.680 She's I mean, like a very very centrist message for Democrats, 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.040 and a very very similar message you'd hear from a 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.960 mainstream Republican who would be giving a speech that after 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.720 a Democratic president would have come to the chamber. I mean, 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.359 I don't think she made any mistakes. There's a lot 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.160 that I think a lot of voters. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:10.960 Are going to like about that. But she is way 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:12.320 to the right of her party. 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.760 I mean, while she's giving that speech, you have Bernie 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.800 Sanders who decided to leave early so that he could 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:19.800 give his own. 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.320 Version of this speech. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.280 And I don't know what he said tonight because we 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:27.919 were listening to the sometimes Republican Alissa Slotkin. But like, 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.399 that's the problem with the Democratic Party is there's no 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.679 one party. There's the left represented by Bernie Sanders in 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.400 a moderate middle more represented by Lisa Slatkin. 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.560 But we're going to hear from a prominent Democrat right 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.399 now who might take issue with that characterization. Bloomberg's and 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.440 Marie hor Dern is joined now live from Capitol Hill 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.720 by California Senator Adam Schiff Hemory, Thanks. 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:50.080 So much, Joe. 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.399 Yeah, let's get the senator's take on what Rick was 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:54.600 just talking about. You're talking about the fact that you 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.960 have Sentaer slock In giving the response a little bit 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:02.040 more of a moderate Democrat. Same time, Bernie Sanders decided 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.320 to leave the speech to give his own speech. Is 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:08.040 the Democratic Party at this moment able to talk about 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:09.800 policy with one voice? 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.040 Well, I think we're quite united on the fact that 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.520 Donald Trump tonight gave Americans no reason to believe he 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:18.960 was going to do anything about the struggles they're facing, 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:21.920 nothing about bringing down the cost of goods. He spent 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.760 more time talking about Greenland and about the Panama Canal 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.560 than he did what he's doing to reduce prices, And 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.720 of course, in that department he's been an abject failure. 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.960 No wonder he wanted to avoid the subject, but you know, 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:38.400 keeping the focus on what he said what he didn't say. 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:45.200 So much firehood of falsehood about social security, so many 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:49.600 hypocritical claims supporting law enforcement and then pardoning the people 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:53.320 that beat police officers in this very space where we're standing. 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:57.919 There was a lot to analyze in the president's speech, 0:19:58.080 --> 0:19:59.840 and none of it particularly good. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.880 Is there something that you think you can work with 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:06.600 your Republican colleagues on the rest of the year. 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.879 Well, it really depends on whether they're willing to stand 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:11.679 up to this president. I would love to work with 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:15.879 my Republican colleagues on supporting Ukraine, something that the vast 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:20.120 majority of them believe that we shouldn't be essentially catering 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:23.000 to the Kremlin dictator. But you heard none of that 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.600 in the speech tonight. No willingness to stand up to Putin. 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:32.160 I would love to work on providing continued support for Ukraine. 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.399 I'd love to work with my Republican colleagues on bringing 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:37.600 down the cost of things. That is not the President's priority, though, 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.639 and at this point they are still in lockstep with 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.000 them as destructive as that march is. 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.480 Senator Adam Schiff, thank you so much for your time 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:46.000 this evening. 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:49.600 Thank you, Joe Kayley of course, the Senator from California. 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:49.960 Thanks. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:53.040 The party can unite on just making sure they're targeting 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.439 what they don't like the criticisms they see when it 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.760 comes to things like this evening, when you have Trump's 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:02.639 being on the chambers. 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:06.680 Floor, absolutely with Ukraine among the topics we heard the 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.040 President speaking about Anne Marie, Thank you so much. And 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.320 on the note of Ukraine, we turned back to Rick 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.960 Davis and Janie shaan Zeno. Rick, it is notable the 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.880 President once again was talking about the money the US 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.679 has spent toward Ukraine, actually inflating it. He says it's 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.240 three hundred and fifty billion dollars. The actual amount appropriated 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.600 by Congress is one hundred and eighty three billion dollars, 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.280 and all of that even went directly to Ukraine. But 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.280 when we consider that there were lawmakers, including the Speaker 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:33.200 of the House who was behind him for the duration 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:36.320 of this address, who were supportive of passing that a 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:38.920 do you sense here that there could be a US 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:41.400 shift back toward Ukraine given some of the other remarks 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:43.960 President Trump made about how he was happy to receive 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:45.520 that letter from Zelensky today. 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:46.040 Yeah. 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:47.720 Look, I mean, I think we're in a period of 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:51.480 time where the Republican Party is singularly defined by Donald Trump. 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:56.000 So if Donald Trump says that extra support to Ukraine 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:59.720 would help give him a card to play with Vladimir 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:01.680 Pus and to get him to the peace table, they'll 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:02.040 do that. 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:03.560 If he says cut. 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:07.480 Off aid like he did yesterday and suspend military assistance, 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.320 they're going to say, okay with us. So I think 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.800 what we saw tonight was a president completely in command 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.919 of his party. They stood up every time he finished 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.600 the sentence and applauded. This is a party that he 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:25.679 will dictate terms of their legislative agenda in the national agenda, 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:27.959 and they will pull that rope anywhere he tells him 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:30.760 to go. So I think, yes, I mean, I think 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:33.520 that as long as Donald Trump has it in his 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:37.000 mind that additional support to Ukraine strengthened his hands to 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.760 get peace. He made it totally clear he wants to 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:43.600 stop the bloodshed on the border between Ukraine and Russia, 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:47.720 and Ukraine will either benefit from that or pay a price. 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:48.520 Let's bring our. 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.480 Audience right back to Capitol Hill now Live. Bloomberg's a 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:54.720 Marie Hordern has another member of the Trump administration standing 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:55.280 by Enmory. 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:59.280 That's right, a new Secretary for Housing and Urban Development, 0:22:59.320 --> 0:22:59.880 Scott Turner. 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:01.959 Thank you so much for joining us this evening. 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.960 So the President outlined is agenda at his policies, but 0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:07.879 your brand new secretary, what are you hoping to achieve? 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.040 Well, you know, tonight was really a fantastic time and 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:15.080 a powerful time and President Trump outlining the American First agenda, 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:18.080 And as the Secretary of HUD, you know we also 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.640 have an American First agenda to serve the American people. 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:24.440 At HUD, we serve the most vulnerable citizens in our country. 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:27.000 And as far as priorities, you know, we have a 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:31.720 homeless housing affordability crisis in our country, and so we 0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:35.439 want to bring up the supply and decrease the costs 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:40.040 either by regulatory reform by public private partnerships. A couple 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:44.720 of weeks ago, we took down the affh Rule, which 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:47.679 was a really social engineering of neighborhoods, and so we 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:51.800 want to bring back local control, decrease the costs, working 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:56.560 with localities, bring federal costs down, and so homelessness in 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:58.959 our nation, you know, went up eighteen percent. 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.000 Doesn't so much of this to do with where mortgage 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.720 rates are right now, and that's pretty much out of 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:06.200 your control. Do you see the housing market being able 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.159 to move if mortgage rates are not coming down? 0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:11.679 Well, you know, since President Trump came in, you know, 0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:15.040 mortgage rates have been coming down every week, and that's 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:17.520 a big problem. You know, in America, people can't afford 0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:21.000 to buy houses because inflation is up, mortgage rates are up, 0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:23.000 the cost is up, and so we want to bring 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:26.480 the costs down and increase the supply. And so President 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.280 Trump on the first day side in executive order, you know, 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:32.800 to restore housing affordability and decrease the costs for every 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:34.000 American in our country. 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.280 We do know that the Biden administration had a goal 0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:40.760 of making sure individuals, especially in rural areas, we're able 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:44.159 to axit the access the internet through broadband. Now we're 0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:46.520 seeing a lot of reports that potentially they want to 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.840 do away with that. But have individuals access startlink. Do 0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:52.280 you think Elon must startlink should be used? 0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:54.400 I imagine this would come under your purview. 0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:58.399 Well, actually, you know, hud is housing and as you know, 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:02.560 when the hurricane hit North Carolina, Elon and Starling with 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:06.200 some of the first to restore their internet for people 0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:08.199 there at North Carolina. It really saved a lot of 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:11.879 people's lives and families. And so we are hopeful, you know, 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.440 that we can get more broadband and Starling out to 0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:17.520 our rural families. And yes, you know with housing, we 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.919 also need housing in rural areas, workforce and affordable housing. 0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:22.480 And so working. 0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:26.000 Together with the other agencies, with a Dolge Task Force, 0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.560 with the President and the White House, we will restore 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:32.080 and bringing housing to rural, urban and tribal communities in 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:32.680 our country. 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:34.720 Housing is it was a big it was a big 0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:37.359 issue for this election. Secretary, thank you so much for 0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:40.959 your time this evening. Of course, that was new Secretary 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.240 of Housing and Urban Development, Scott Turner there his key 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:49.200 focus as you might expect, housing, No. 0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.880 Surprise there Bloombergs and Marie Hordern and Statuary Hall. 0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:53.120 Thank you so much. 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.800 Rick Davis and Jeanie shanzin a our signature political panels 0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:57.760 still with us. Genie, we did hear a bit about 0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:00.800 mortgage rates from the President today. He suggested that he's 0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.840 going to bring them down or they will bring them down. 0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.720 That was one element of his economic messaging. But when 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:09.160 you think about the speech in totality, all one hundred 0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.320 minutes of it, was there enough of that in there 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.720 for the American voter, given what we've seen suggested in 0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:16.880 polling leading up to this, You. 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.840 Know, I don't think there was. I mean, I think 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:24.720 the President really missed an opportunity tonight, and that opportunity 0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:28.480 was to speak to the American public about what they 0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.919 are experiencing as they go to the grocery store. You know, 0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.920 this is a man who, what twenty four hours ago, 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:39.520 put in place enormous tariffs which will have impacts directly 0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.880 on the American public, and he didn't take the opportunity 0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:46.800 tonight to explain to them why they would be feeling 0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:49.480 this pain. In fact, he told farmers who are going 0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:52.280 to be feeling it to have some fun. And so 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.639 it is that kind of message that just falls flat. 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.359 And that's why as you juxtapose that to what the 0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.560 senator from Michigan was taught talking about, she is one 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:06.120 hundred percent right that there is a way to achieve change. 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.760 She won in the same state Donald Trump is there's 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:12.000 a way to do things responsibly, and there's a recklessness. 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.280 And he has been reckless with the economy so far, 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.479 and he's been reckless with security use. 0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:19.720 It's going to feel tomorrow, Rick, everyone has a chance 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:21.840 to sleep on it. We get a bunch of analysis, 0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.200 wake up to morning columns. Then we're going to look 0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.840 at futures when they open. Reflecting on what you said 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:31.520 earlier about the heart of this speech tonight being tariffs. 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:35.000 Yeah, anybody who was trading on the idea that Howard 0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.320 Lutnik was espousing earlier today that somehow these tariffs were 0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:40.880 going to be modified to a point where they didn't 0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.639 have a big impact, they're going to wake up with 0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:47.960 another sensibility. I think there's no daylight in this speech 0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:50.879 on what the Trump administration plans to do with the 0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:51.600 use of tariffs. 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:52.640 And I was surprised. 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:56.280 The one thing that I thought was something that the 0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.520 Trump administration could have bought into was the Chips Act. 0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:03.880 Idea that we've allocated billions of dollars to spur. 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.360 Chip development in the United States. 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:11.280 I thought was agenda item that Donald Trump would take 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.400 from the Biden administration and embrace. 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:15.640 But oh no, any monies that were not. 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.359 Spent up to this point in time on the Chips 0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:21.960 Act are going to be recaptured and used to reduce 0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:23.960 the debt at least, you know, based on what Donald 0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:28.040 Trump said tonight. So and at the same time announcing 0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:33.080 that TSMC just yesterday was going to build a massive 0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:36.480 commitment of tens of billions of dollars to build more 0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.480 facilities here in the United States. So look, I mean, 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:41.160 I think there are a lot of people in the 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.360 business community who will be looking with a fine tooth 0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.480 comb to figure out what the pathway is going to be. 0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.440 I think you're going to see pretty much what you 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.560 would have expected at the beginning of this administration. 0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.280 I will point out that the Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnik, 0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.400 just caught up with some reporters in Statuary Hall after 0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.360 leaving the Chamber. He reiterated that there will be an 0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.600 announcement on tariffs on Canada and Mexico tomorrow. 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.640 Jeanie, should we really expect this? It almost is tomorrow. 0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.360 In fact, it's twenty three minutes to midnight. 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.080 I am holding my breath. 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:10.360 I can't wait to find out. 0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:13.479 Because the speech we heard the President seemed to be 0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:17.400 doubling down on those tariffs. Could he change his mind? Certainly, 0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.640 and perhaps the Commerce Secretary knows what is coming, but 0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.680 it does not seem like what we heard from the 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:28.960 President tonight. He seems very invested in pursuing a policy 0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.160 of tariffs, and it is a long term commitment from 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:32.600 the president. 0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.960 You think we see a signing ceremony soon with President Zelenski. 0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.640 I do think it's possible. He sounded like it would be. 0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:41.760 Possible tonight from the rafters at one point. 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.680 Yeah, yeah, And of course you know that would be 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.920 welcome by all of us, and the President Zelenski sent 0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:52.200 a very conciliatory message today. The President reiterated that, So 0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:55.040 if that is doable and that is possible, that is 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.480 certainly welcome news. And I think that was the biggest 0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:00.680 news that was made tonight, in addition to that tariffs, 0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.840 was that we may see a deal with Zelenski. 0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:05.560 We have less than a minute left here, Rick, but 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.680 obviously we heard a lot from the President tonight about 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.320 what he's done in the last six weeks. 0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.360 Can he keep up this pace for. 0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.400 The next six weeks on tariff announcements or anything else? 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:18.080 Yeah, Look, I mean, obviously, hundreds of executive orders aren't 0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.200 going to be replicated in the course of you know, 0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:24.880 every six months. But the reality is that they are 0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:27.320 f to a fast pace, and I would imagine as 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.560 these cabinet secretaries dig into their agencies, they're going to 0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.600 find things that they're going to be reversing and engineering 0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.480 on their own. So yeah, I think this is going 0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:40.520 to be an administration. Whether it's sustainable over years, we'll see, 0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:42.320 but I think this is going to be here of 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:45.120 massive change in Washington, and it's going to go on 0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:46.400 for quite some time to come. 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.800 This has been a great conversation with our signature panel, 0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:52.240 and many thanks to Gidi, Shanzino and Rick Davis for 0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.080 being with us on a special edition of Balance of Power. 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.040 Many thanks to you as well, and get a jump 0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:01.040 on trading. Tomorrow morning, eight am Eastern Time, Bloomberg TV 0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.440 and Radio interviewing Commerce Secretary Lutnick and Marie will have 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:05.720 that conversation for us.

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