Hour 2 – Callers Have Questions, Mike Greenberg

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It's our two on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan Nuts Dan Patrick Show, and Mike Greenberg will stop by. Greeney will stop buying. About twenty minutes from now. Got baseball this afternoon and tonight. Checking the weather forecast in Detroit. They had their game delayed yesterday, but it looks like clear sailing in Detroit. Also Chicago, also New York and Los Angeles. So it's three oh eight, five oh eight, seven oh eight, nine oh eight Eastern time, your playoff baseball. Aaron Judge carries the Yankees to a nine to six win as they stave off elimination. The Mariners are up to one in their series against the Tigers. Bengals acquired Joe Flacco from the Browns. Still not sure why the Browns would help out the Bengals in that situation, because they did help out the Bengals, because you know, what are the other Bengal options that they would have, Maybe Russell Wilson, maybe a big swing for Kirk Cousins. Joe Flacco is an upgrade, not a big upgrade at this stage of his career, but still if you got a guy. If you protect him, have him in the pocket, and you have receivers, then Cincinnati certainly becomes more threatening, but they have to be more threatening than they have been. Eight seven to seven three DP show operator Tyler sitting by. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock. That is our streaming partner, and from the crew that brought you the Office, comes a new comedy of underdogs with major issues. The paper streaming now only on Peacock. We will upgrade and update our poll questions and Jimmy Rollins former MVP is Jimmy Rollins borderline Hall of Famer. I didn't really look at his numbers, and then Todd said, Jimmy Rollins's going to join us. I knew he won an MVP and a three time All Star. Don't know what else he has as far as credentials, Yeah, PAULI.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got that three time All Star, one MVP, he never finished top five, another MVP, a bunch of goal gloves, very good playoff numbers. It feels like unlikely.

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Speaker 2: It was very good. Yeah, Okay, there was a time before he was the guy. Short period of time, well one year he asked the guy how many career hits and fifty five. Okay, all right, I'd say you got somebody's attention. I would think, I don't know what's the best he's finished. Is he still on the ballot, the Hall of Fame ballot? Be curious about that. While you look at that seat, would you give me the poll results from the first hour and our poll question for hour two?

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Speaker 4: Most BCW in sports? Well or just baseball? Judge Otani, Riley Raley other Right now, Otani has about forty six percent of that vote. Raleigh and Judge are splitting about twenty five percent.

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Speaker 2: And that's a bathroom can wait?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's bathroom can wait. We also have this one from Marvin after Joe the Joe Flacco trade, What should the realistic expectations of the Bengals be? That's a division title, wild card, AFC Championship game or no playoffs?

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Speaker 2: Right now? No playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Has seventy three percent of that phone.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm gonna look at the glass half full with Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paulin twenty twenty five Hall of Fame voting, Jimmy Rollins got seventy one votes. That's eighteen percent. He needs to be on seventy five percent of the ballots to get in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have to have a certain number of votes to stay on the ballot. Yes, is he staying on the ballot checking, because that will be the key? Okay, all right, we'll get to some phone calls here. Mentioned the baseball last night, cal Raley homeward with the MS over the Tigers and Aaron j pretty impressive so far in that series and hit a bomb. And this is what it sounded like last night.

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Speaker 5: There's the Pits high flight ball deep left field, down the left field line.

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Speaker 6: It is off the fair pole.

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Speaker 1: Hey now, hey, now.

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Speaker 7: Hey, now overever this game is fined, it's six sex.

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Speaker 2: Okay, some enthusiasm from our favorite Yankee broadcaster, Dave Simms.

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Speaker 6: Playing to the craft.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's playing to his crowd, his fans.

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Speaker 6: Yankee fans are tuning in.

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Speaker 5: They want to hear the excitement of the big home run.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Christ and Syracuse, Hi, Chris, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 8: Hey? Thanks Dan?

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Speaker 9: Hey, I wanted to mention a couple of things off of quarterbacks making tackles. Yesterday, Paul mentioned that Cam Newton's career was really affected by a tackle that he made where he got injured. And I found that interesting that and that won Super Bowl. That balls on the ground and he wanted to have nothing to do with it. And I know it's somewhat reactionary, but I think qbs really need to pick their spots when they tackled like Dak in the opening of this year against Philadelphia made that great diving tackle that saved a touchdown and that was a close game at the time, and if CD had made a couple of those plays at the end of the game, that could have been the difference between winning and losing.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm okay. If you're going to make a swipe tackle at somebody's foot like Dak did, I just don't want you being like Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck became a linebacker every time, and he admitted that he'd throw an interception, he'd be so angry that he wanted to make that tackle. You can't. And Mahomes was trying to make, you know, kind of a swipe tackle, and he did alter the defender, you know a little bit, but you go low in that situation. But uh, you know, I have no problem if my quarterback is I'm going to stay out of the out of the fray, because the thing that I'm worried about is not the tackle you're going to make, it's every one of those defenders who get a free shot at you because now you're not a quarterback, You're just a regular player, and that's when you get blasted. Let's see Row in Missouri? Hi Row, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 10: Hey Dan? Dan Ass? How are you? I'm first time caller. I'm really excited, longtime listener, four ten hundred and five pounds. My question is, what do you think Jerry Jones fine is going to be? You know, that's what he's going to get, right.

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Speaker 2: Uh? Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars?

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Speaker 10: Okay, I missed that. I'm sorry. And then I had one other question, not a question, but a comment.

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Speaker 2: You know, you were talking.

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Speaker 10: About the fist pumps. You go in for the fist pump, the handshake. I'm a little girl, a little young woman whatever, and I always go in for the hard handshake.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Well I'll read that Row when I see you, and I go, okay, I'm supposed to give you a firm handshake. Thank you, Roe. I appreciate that. Yeah, Jared Jones two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Jonathan Gannon got one hundred thousand dollars for his altercation on the sidelines Grant in Oregon. Hey Grant, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 11: Hey morning man, first time caller six' one two fifteen. Hey, I just wanted to talk a little bit more about that Jonathan Gannon situation. Obviously, I don't think it's right for him to ever put his hands on any sort of a player, but I think it does reflect a little bit of the emotion in the business stress it's put on, especially an NFL head coach, where those situations like that matter, and his coaching life in the NFL and that kind of game determines whether or not he continues as a head coach.

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Speaker 6: In the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. You know, I've seen some of the great coaches in history. I mean whaty Hayes at the end of his career was trying to take on a defender who was at Charlie Bowman the interception Clemson in a bowl game. Lou Holtz has gone on to the field, Bill Cower's gone. I mean, these coaches they preach, you know, having some kind of decorum, you know, keep your cool, you know, don't. Bob Knight would do that all the time. And he was the worst offender with it, you know. And I have no problem with the NFL or the Cardinals finding him one hundred thousand dollars. I mean, he knew he did something wrong. That's why he the day before apologized because it didn't look good. Yes time.

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Speaker 5: Now, is that supposed to be some kind of teaching moment?

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Speaker 6: I know, you lose.

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Speaker 5: You can't analyze it too much in the moment you have your emotions or in the back of your mind like that. That kind of plant's going to get me fired. I got my family here, and people do stupid things like that. You know how much of that sometimes You never know in the back recesses of your mind. If the season's not going well and it's more selfish, it's only not a teaching moment to get in someone's face like that and touch them. Well, they are less likely to do it because you put your hands on them.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that you're that Certainly he wasn't a teaching moment for him. I mean it can be, but you know, you have to have your act together. And plus he's coaching for the Cardinals. He might not be coaching for the Cardinals next year, and every one of these games they have that game, there's no way they can lose that game until they found a way to lose that game. And he's probably fed up with it and he knows he's coaching for his job. Yeah, Paul, I disagree a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a I liked Jonathan Gannon going over to yell at his player. This guy purposely dropped the ball before the goal line. If he doesn't get physical, I'm fine with Jonathan Gannon airing him out in person, right there on the sidelines and from everybody, right up to the point where he put his hands on him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Having been a person who's been yelled at, I mean it's embarrassing because everybody's watching. I was sent to the showers in the first half of a basketball game when I was in high school because we were killing King's Mill, killing him and my dad had traveled all night next day to get to the game, and all of a sudden, the coach says, Hey, I'm going to put in this second string, and I think I said why, and then my coach told me to shower, So I had to walk. I had to walk of shame in the first half. So I made it seem like my contact lens came out and that I was just going. And then I'm down in the locker room at halftime and I'm thinking, God, this is embarrassing. And so I had to eat it because I talked back to my coach and I he didn't yell at me or you know, he embarrassed me. But it taught me a lesson. I mean, it was a great moment of learning, even though I didn't learn anything until later when I analyzed it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulin, so you guys were up big, You were a starter and he just was rotating in the backups because it was a blowout and you want him more at the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And he was very judicial when it came to giving playing time, and and uh, you know, I'm I'm there, I'm killing King's mill their arrival, I'm want to put up some big numbers. My dad flown cross country and I get there, I think he sits down and we have a time out and I end up getting pulled for the game. Yes time.

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Speaker 5: Why is saying why that disrespectful? Is that just a different era that you know some people can't relate to today's kids.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's how.

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Speaker 1: Dare you demand an explanation for me?

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Speaker 5: The coaches to well you, this is the decision.

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Speaker 6: You don't ask why.

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Speaker 2: I never, I never ever would speak to my coaches. That was the only time. But it was like in the moment, I'm going why, like why aren't we supposed to be in there and dominating? And but you know our coach was saying, I want to play the other guys. I was just being selfish.

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Speaker 12: Yes, Marvin, that's the same generation who answers because I said, so that's that generation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, my generation. And I've used that before with my kids. Well why and you know you didn't go to school, you didn't study because I said, so, that's it. Let's see Tommy in the outer Banks. I Tommy, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 13: Dan and the dants. Thank you so much for taking our call. I don't know how much you're you feel you're appreciated. I know you put a lot of work into what you do, a lot of show prep, a lot of meetings, all hours of the day, and people only here just a few hours of what you do. But I know that a lot more goes into it, and you've made my wife so much happier with what you're doing. She's doing endometrial and servical cancer and going through radiation and chemo, and she really can't speak on the phone, but wanted me to call in regards to I guess you were talking about DraftKings and the offensive Rookie of the Year as an issue. We're both Jack fans. Hopefully you'll lean that way. Do you have any opinions on defensive Rookie of the year and defensive player of the year.

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Speaker 2: Well, Tommy, my best to your wife. I'm glad that if we can put a smile on her face. Abdul Carter is the defensive rookie of the Year right now, and Jahad Campbell is second, and so I think Abdul Carter by default. I don't know if anybody's really distinguished themselves, but Abdul Carter and you play for the Giants. Giants have a Thursday night game against the Eagles, so you get a standalone game against that Eagle the weapons that they have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, PAULI, Yeah, Abdul Carter, like you said, it's kind of default. He's playing a lot not a lot of other rookies making any defensive impact yet.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know about defensive Player of the Year. I don't. I haven't really explored that, but I don't. I haven't seen any odds for that. We'll see if the DraftKings has that. Dustin in South Ben, Hi, Dustin, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 14: Hello?

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Speaker 13: Je, Just a couple of snack suggestions. Where you guys are in town? Yesterday's in Granger and i'd also tell you Testin's over in lafort All about twenty minutes from the stadium.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you, Dustin. Getting some nice suggestions from the fans from South Ben. We'll be out there next Thursday and Friday. Let's take a break. Mike Greenberg has a book, new book, and we'll talk to him. Been a while since we've chatted with Greeney. Also in an hour from now, Jimmy rawlins. He's doing baseball for TBS, the former Philly great as the Phillies trying to stave off getting eliminated, getting swept and boy, you can point fingers at the top of the lineup. They Trey Turner, Bryce Harper, Schwarber. I think they have three hits and three for twenty one maybe something like that. But give credit to the Dodgers starting pitching. It's been great. Well take a break. Greeney joins us next year Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 6: This, Well, I'll tell you all about the book in the second But first and foremost, it is always a thrill and an honor for me to be on here with you and the guy. So hello to everybody and second, I need you to settle a bet for me. Were you at the Nate Bargatsey concert at Madison Square Garden two weeks ago? Yes, okay, I thought so. So I was sitting there and someone walked by and I said, I'm ninety nine percent sure that's Dan Patrick, and Stay said go find you know, go say hello, and I said I will, and I got up and I couldn't find you. You had walked in and you kind of walked, you made like a turn, you went around a curve. I don't know where you went, and then I couldn't find you. And the people I was with said, that wasn't Dan Patrick. And you don't know Dan If you went over to talk to Dan Patrick, you wouldn't even know who you were. And I said, I guarantee you Dan Patrick would know who I was.

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Speaker 16: I'm going to find him.

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Speaker 6: And I spent I was distracted through the entire Jimmy Fallon portion of the evening trying to find you, and I never did again. So I am now confirming on the record that was indeed you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was. I went with my family, had a great time, and his dad was great up there. Jimmy Fallon was great up there, and I had not seen Nate. I'd seen his stand up on Netflix. And my daughter's the one who said, Dad, you'll love him because it's just everyday situations that he's talking about that we can all relate to. But he does it in a, you know, an impressive way. And I met him backstage afterwards. And you see Chris Rock there, Well, that's testament to how good you are that Chris is coming out to watch you perform.

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Speaker 16: So Jimmy Fallon is opening for you.

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Speaker 6: You know that you know something. And we saw him. We had friends who had had been turned on to him, and so we went to see him at Radio City maybe a year and a half so ago before he blew up so big that he's now hosting the Emmys and all of that. And it sort of led to an interesting debate, which is can you laugh too loudly at a comedy show?

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Speaker 16: My wife yelled at me.

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Speaker 6: Here's another of those that I was laughing too loudly, and I said, you know, honey, I really think the comedian probably likes it when you laugh loudly. Sort of the idea of the entire exercise. So I got, I got, I got chastened for laughing too much at the Nate Bargatsy concert.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure Nate would be fine, although there are times when you can hear a stand up act and you can hear a laughter that might be annoying. Yes, like there's now I don't know if if it was high I don't know how your laugh is, but if it's high pitched or something, then he probably would have singled you out and made fun of you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I was not close enough to the stage at Radio City that he would have he would have heard it.

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Speaker 16: She was convinced I was drowning him out for the people around us.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, I'm glad that we that. Thank you for taking care of that for me. How's everything else going?

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Speaker 2: Everything spectacular? So you dive into this topic not an easy topic to kind of Well, it's not one topic, it's a variety of them. But when did you decide that, all right, America needs this?

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Speaker 6: So I had this idea. It's the third book that we've done Hambo and I. So if you know Himbo, his research is ridiculous, like he is whatever the geniuses are at NASA that like put are eventually going to put a man on Jupiter. That's what Himbo is to sports research, and during COVID I had this idea. It just came up from an idle conversation we were having with someone you'll remember, Pete mcconvill from ESPN, who's one of the few people who has been around as long as you and I, and about which players own each individual numbers, like the uniform numbers like twenty three clearly belongs to Michael Jordan and ninety nine belongs to Wayne Gretzky, But how about all these other numbers? Who owns them? And I thought that might make an interesting book. So we did a book called Got Your Number, in which we assigned that who owns every number from one to one hundred, and candidly, it sold better than the publisher expected it to, so they said, come up with another idea. So then I figured, I've been doing sports talk for thirty years, so we came up with the book. The second one was called Got Your Answers, in which we picked the one hundred best sports debate topics and sort of using his research, answered them, and that also did well. So we had another idea. Heimbo said, let's do the Mount Rushmore's you and I have both done, and so as every sports fan, and frankly, it goes beyond sports. Wat's the mount Rushmore of this? What's the mount Rushmore of rock guitarists? What's the mount rush More of stand up comedians? The mount Rushmore of this or that or the other. So we decided, using his research, to come up with the mount Rushmore of every team in the fourth sports, as you just said, the NFL, the NBA, the NHL, and Major League Baseball, And so we chose those and then it was my job to write it. The way we do the books is he does the research and then I do the writing. I sat down to write it and I realized, we don't really have a construct for how we're going to lay them out. So do we just do them by sport? Do we do them alphabetically? Neither of None of the ideas I had seemed interesting. So we said, well, hell with it. Let's just rank all of the teams from the best one to the bottom one. So the best one is the Yankees, and some of the teams that have just come into existence are down at the bottom. And using winning percentage and championships and all sorts of other things. So the book sort of has two separate areas for debate, which is, did you agree with the people that we chose to be the Mount Rushmoores of literally every team?

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Speaker 16: And then do you agree with the way that we ranked them?

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Speaker 6: And whether you agree or disagree. Hopefully it'll be fun to read. And what I like the most about it because I Dan grew up reading a ton of sports history books.

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Speaker 16: I read a lot about sports history.

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Speaker 6: And I feel like that's sort of a lost art, if indeed that is an art.

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Speaker 16: Not enough of that going on.

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Speaker 6: So there's a ton of sports history and it there's a ton. With his research, there's a ton.

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Speaker 2: You will learn a.

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Speaker 6: Ton about athletes you may not know a whole lot about because some of them are contemporary, but some of them are played decades and in some cases even a century ago. So hopefully, whether you agree or disagree, you'll learn some stuff about some of the great athletes of all time.

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Speaker 2: What's the sports debate that leaves you frustrated?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean the contemporary ones, like the what my mind goes to when you ask me that question, are what are the go tos that those of us who did sports talk that depended on phone calls, which is what I used to do before I came to ESPN. I started out and you were working your way up, like as a TV guy CNN and ESPN and Sports Center and everything.

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Speaker 16: I came a different route.

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Speaker 6: I came from sort of the traditional you call this number right now, and let's have this argument. So I go back to the ones that were just like on a slow day, you just throw this question out and they would do your show for you. So the big one in the nineties was does Pete belonging in the Hall of Fame or not? So I don't know if it frustrates me, but it's it's a question that people are so divided on the people on either side of it feel so strongly and passionately about their respective sides.

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Speaker 16: And this of course was long before Pete died.

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Speaker 6: So that it was a really good, fun, easy debate to throw out there. The Michael versus Lebron thing, now, I guess is sort of this generation's debate. And I can tell you that, like, my son is a crazy basketball fan, grew up playing nothing but basketball.

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Speaker 16: He's twenty two and he never stops.

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Speaker 6: Telling me that Lebron is the greatest player of all time, and you know it makes me crazy, but you just had to have seen it.

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Speaker 16: I'm I will forever be a Michael guy. I remember sitting with.

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Speaker 6: You in the bowels of the old Chicago Stadium when I was covering those Bulls teams because I worked locally in Chicago and you would be in town to cover the finals. And you'll remember hanging out with like Terry Bores and Jesse Rodgers, all those guys you used to hang out with, and those were my friend and so you were there and I was like, wow, Dan Patrick is here, and.

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Speaker 16: I would just sit at the table and listen.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, the point is I always tell younger people, if you didn't watch Michael Jordan play, then I can understand why you don't know the answer to this question. But maybe the best way I can explain it is if there was one game of basketball being played and my life depended upon the outcome, I would pick Michael Jordan first, and then I would make whatever plans you want to make for the extended future, because he was going.

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Speaker 16: To find a way to win better than anyone else would.

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Speaker 6: So anyway, those are the two that jump to my mind when you ask the question. I don't know if it's exactly what you meant, but that's sort of where my head went.

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Speaker 2: But do you provide information? Does Heimbo provide information so you can win your sports debates?

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Speaker 6: One hundred percent? That's the idea here is that our debates, particularly in the second book and in this one as well, every argument we make is based on all of this data. I mean, in this day and age, there is so much data and information that's available inside and outside of sports that we're not really debating. We're telling you the data says these four people are the best, or the data says this guy was the best at this or that. Now, as you and I both know, no matter how weld you, I think younger people have a greater appreciation of data now than people our age. But at the same time, no one, I don't think anyone thinks that the numbers tell the entire story. You know, there's a science to it, and that's really what is provided in the book. Hopefully the writing adds a little bit of the art to it, because in the judgment of anything, there's both of those. But yes, every single argument that we make in all three of the books, and especially this one, because we're literally talking about four people from one hundred and twenty four different teams. Every single one of them is based, for the most part on the research that Hembo does, which on some level is almost indisputable.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Mike Greenberg, as a new book out it's called Got Your Legends, ranking America's sports franchises and their most iconic figures. Give me the team that was the toughest to come up with, it's Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 6: Well, the toughest and easiest at the same time probably was the top team, which is the Yankees. Which is to say, when you do the Mount Rushmore of the Yankees, the people you're leaving off, if you pick the top four people that you're leaving off, they would probably be better than the Mount Rushmore of almost any other team in sports. So for I'll just tell you that four people not on the Yankees Mount Rushmore are the only player ever unanimously elected to the Hall of Fame, which is Mariano Rivera, the face of the sport for two decades, which is Derek Jeter, the player who won the most World Series of any in history, which is Yogi Bearra and the most infamous, notorious, significant important owner in sports for a generation, which is George Steinbrenner. So that's Forsome would probably be as almost as good as just about once you get past like the you know, the Lakers and a few of the others, that would probably be better than the Mount Rushmore of any other team. But the Yankees had Babe Ruth, Louke Garrig, Joe Demangio, and Mickey Mantle and then so there's just no in my opinion, there's no debating those. So that was it was both. It was painful to leave the people off that we left off, but it was easy to choose. I'll tell you what was hard because we did include some announcers like Vince Scully is on the Dodgers Mount Rushmore, Bob Euker is on the Milwaukee Brewers Mount Rushmore. But we decided in all cases we would break a tie in the favor of players. There were managers, there were coaches, there are executives. But in all cases, if oh, the light just went out of my office because I didn't move hold on a second, let me sorry, I didn't know.

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Speaker 15: That would happen.

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Speaker 2: Hold On one. Tres Are tough there at the mother Ship alight, just.

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Speaker 6: Yes, if they think they think the office is empty. Sorry about that, leaving like Jack Buck off of the Saint Louis. I've had a lot of people from Saint Louis that are that we left Jack Buck off of the Cardinals list and some of the other announcers that if we were going to include any announces, we should have gone all the way and put on those like Ernie Harwell isn't on the Tiger's list, and Jack Buck isn't on the Cardinals list, and there are a few others.

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Speaker 16: And again, that was.

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Speaker 6: Really and we write about it. I mean, I write chapters on every one of these, so their names are mentioned in all of them. But those were tough decisions to make. I'll tell you another one. I have some Green Bay Packer fans, like people who really know the history of that franchise that are upset that we didn't include Curly Lambeau. And we do write a lot about him. Obviously his name is on the stadium, but we I mean, you had to put Lombardi on the list, and then we put the three quarterbacks. It just seems you've got Bart Starr, you got Brett Fave. You got Aaron Rodgers all the MVPs that they won. Stars still has the best postseason winning record of any quarterback in history and is the only quarterback in the modern era to win three straight championships. People think it's never been done, but that's wrong. They just didn't call it the super Bowl when he won the first of those three. But he won three in a row. It felt like those three had to be on. But there are a lot of people who think if you don't include Curly Lambeau, you're making a mistake. So we've had a lot of pushback. You know, they're really passionate. Fans of different places will have pretty strong opinions.

00:30:19
Speaker 2: I know that you're a pronounced Jets fan, but oh god, now I don't have any allegiance anymore. When I got to Sports Center, I shed my allegiance to anything with the Bengals or the Reds. I just it was easier for me to do it that way. But you go to work on that Monday, after a Sunday with the Jets or after I mean, there's sports depression, but you still have to do your job like there's no loss that affects me. With the Reds or the Bengals, the teams that I grew up rooting for, where I go into that next day. But do you just absorb it like you are you conditioned? You just go, Okay, this is what it means to be a Jets fan.

00:31:01
Speaker 6: At this point, I think my sports soul is calloused enough to sort of absorb that, the depression that is being a Jet fan. It's interesting because I host two different shows, and this has always been my philosophy, Dan, and I'm not sure how you see it, but when you're hosting a show like Sports Center, as you did for all those years as well as anyone ever did, or in my case, when I host the Sunday Morning Countdown show or when I host the NFL Draft, those are shows people are not watching because I'm on them.

00:31:31
Speaker 16: They're watching them because they're fans of the sport.

00:31:33
Speaker 6: When I was hosting the NBA, they're watching because they're fans of the sport. No one but my mother is watching because they want to hear what I have to say. And so in those cases, I don't bring my fandom to that conversation at all. I don't treat the Jets or any other team that I pay attention to any differently than I do any other team on talk shows that are my own shows. So when we were doing Mike and Mike, or now when I do get up, I figure the reason people are watching is because of your personality. It is because of who you are. They're tuning in to hear what you have to say about things, and in those like that's how I got to this. I didn't play, you know, I didn't. I was I'm not a former athlete. I'm just a fan. I'm just a kid who grew up loving sports in the nineteen seventies, and those are my teams. So I've never made any secret.

00:32:16
Speaker 16: I don't know if I've ever.

00:32:17
Speaker 6: Told you this, but the way that started was your friend and mine, Robin Roberts on the Old on a Saturday morning sports center. Right before Robin left to do GMA, I was hosting a Saturday morning sports center with her, and the Jets were playing a playoff game that night. And this was before there was Mike and Mike. This was before any of that, and I had never acknowledged what team I rooted for. I would have thought that that would be totally forgotten, that I would you know, Norby would call me in and fire me if that came up on the air. In my own little private way, I wore a green tie that day. That's it said nothing of it, just as wearing a green tie. And then in one of those.

00:32:55
Speaker 16: Little moments that you have for chit chat on.

00:32:57
Speaker 6: Sports Center, you know where they would be like that little interaction and Robin says, greeny, I see that green tie. Obviously got that on for the big Jets game tonight, and I thought, oh my god, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me. Here I am. I'm anchoring ESPN News five days a week. They put me on Sports Center like once a month. I'm getting this chance, and now I'm getting, you.

00:33:17
Speaker 16: Know, outed as a fan of a team.

00:33:19
Speaker 6: This is going to be the worst.

00:33:19
Speaker 16: Thing that ever happened to me.

00:33:21
Speaker 6: And obviously nothing terrible happened. And then it wasn't until we started doing Mike and Mike that I thought, well, what am I going to sit here talking about? You know, like, what is the We can't just sit here and analyze a in a dry way. All the x's and o's of all these games. People want to hear what your passion is. So we talked about that, and there's no question I talk about the Jets differently than I do other bad teams in the sport. It's just the way it's going to be.

00:33:48
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, Fritzy, who you know well, wants to try out as an announcer for Get Up and he has a get Up tease that he would like to read for you. So, Todd, Todd, you ready.

00:34:00
Speaker 6: Let's do it? Okay, good morning.

00:34:04
Speaker 5: You thought the Yankees were done, but who are we to judge? The captain spread some Tuesday night fever as the Bronx bombers are staying alive. It took a while to get things racing in the Motor city and then Seattle slew.

00:34:14
Speaker 6: Did lebron make the wrong decision? Again?

00:34:17
Speaker 5: Wait until you, Henna see the reaction would be a sobering end for the Cubs with old Milwaukee brotherly glove. Can the Fills catch up with those artful Dodgers? An angry bird is fined in Arizona? And are you fine with Jerry's bird flip explanation? If a drops on the ice and no one saw it, did it really happen?

00:34:34
Speaker 12: Yes?

00:34:34
Speaker 5: The NHL is underway, and he got reciped from the Dog pat in Cleveland by Cincinnati.

00:34:39
Speaker 6: We'll tell you why. It's not whack though. For the Bengals to buy into Flacco, it's time to get up. That is very well done, Fritzy. You only missed one thing. Somehow, some way. You have to get the Cowboys in. I mean you can't. We can't possibly do it.

00:34:54
Speaker 2: It's true, you can't. Well no, we had Jerry's Jerry flipping off the crowd, so we did squeeze in. Cowboy didn't get Dack in, but you got you got Jerry and oh.

00:35:03
Speaker 6: I, miss I must have been laughing over that one. That's extraordinarily well done. I will steal most of those puns from you. I particularly like Seattle slew. That one goes for those who remember. That's a very well played one.

00:35:16
Speaker 2: Thanks h Greenee, good to talk to you. Good luck with the book, and thanks for joining us.

00:35:21
Speaker 6: Great to see you call. It is a delight to be on. Great to see you Dan and everybody.

00:35:25
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you Greenie. The book is called Get Got Your Legends, ranking America's sports franchises their most iconic figures. He's Mike Greenberg. All right, Tod, there you go. You keep talking your way back to Yeah. Once this show's over, you'll be like, hey, Greenee, remember me? Are you texting Greenee right now? Great appearance.

00:35:47
Speaker 6: As soon as you go to break.

00:35:50
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break. We're back after this.

00:35:52
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00:36:04
Speaker 2: Some A caller asked the defensive player of the year according to DraftKings right now, Aiden Hutchinson is your favorite, followed by Micah Parsons, Miles Garrett, Nick, Benito, the Broncos. Heck, yeah, he's one of those guys that you don't know him, but then you watch the game and you're like, why don't I know this guy?

00:36:24
Speaker 6: Who's that number?

00:36:25
Speaker 5: Fifteen? Breaking through?

00:36:26
Speaker 2: Yeah? Thank you?

00:36:27
Speaker 8: Tod.

00:36:27
Speaker 2: Will Anderson is also in there, Jared Verse, TJ. Watt, and Fred Warner. Fred Warner Corey in Kansas City, Hi, Corey, what's on your mind today?

00:36:39
Speaker 14: Hey, good morning, mister Patrick. Always a pleasure to speak with you. A six foot three tall piece of white chocolate Marvin by the way, you have a standing honorary invite the persons of Heights Barbecue anyways. Hey, by the way, guys, just for the record, remember presidents of Temporary but wooching this rapper anyways, I just wanted to say I'm a dedicated podcast listener, some a little bit behind on some of these topics. Have a TV show recommendation, and then also a shout out to the weirdest interview you ever had. TV show recommendation is the rehearsal starring Nathan Fielder kind of reminds me of you, guys. You're not really sure what's scripted and what's not, and it's also kind of like the unlike anything you've really ever seen before. And then for your interview debo, Samuel from being the first guest to ever answer a question by drinking water to Marvin doing his best Chris Farley impression.

00:37:31
Speaker 13: God, that was a show.

00:37:33
Speaker 2: Thank you, Corey. That was at the super Bowl. I knew it wasn't gonna go well. I knew it was going to go well. Deebo Samuel shows up during commercial break, I walk up, say hello, and really very little acknowledgment, and I thought, Okay, you know, maybe it's going to warm him up a little bit here. And then I realized now that was about as good as it was going to get. And then, but I had promised Marvin I was gonna let him ask a question. I didn't go to him like, I give up. Marvin's a Niner fan, and I said, you know, go ahead and ask Debo a question. And I think you asked a question, Marvin.

00:38:14
Speaker 12: I did not have a question at all, because in my head, if Deebo doesn't want to answer Dan Patrick's questions, what makes you thinks he wants to answer my questions. So you were like, hey, Marvin's a nineer fan, He's got a question.

00:38:27
Speaker 6: I was like, no, I don't.

00:38:30
Speaker 2: He. I don't think Deebo knew who I was. I think he was just there. It was a paid, you know, gig that they have at the super Bowl. But I don't think he was interested in, you know, engaging. Yeah, Paul, it was outdoors.

00:38:43
Speaker 3: It was in Scottsdale, and it was cool in the morning, but it wasn't cold.

00:38:47
Speaker 2: Oh it was cold when you showed up.

00:38:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, you walk up to Deebo and you are Deebo Dan Patrick. His response was whose idea? Was it to have the show outside and that's it. That's the longest sentence he had.

00:39:00
Speaker 5: Yuh yes, How would you compare that experience to your Willie Maze interview in Scottsdale and the amount of eye contact that was going on in body language.

00:39:09
Speaker 2: That was such a long time ago, and you know Willie. I hated. I hated asking if Willie would talk about Barry Bonds. I hated that because he was putt in a tough situation and he even said, you know, I got to talk about that leap, you know, steroid stuff. He was not saying that about Barry. But yeah, that that was one that I I don't know, I'd like to have that one back and not ask him because it just I've felt like, I don't know, I was picking on somebody a lot older in a situation where they didn't want to talk about Barry. So but I was such a Hank Aaron fan that you know, I had to, you know, take that and put it to the side. My jobs to ask questions. But that one now was uncomfortable. I felt bad. Let's see Austin, Austin in California. I don't know if I got that right.

00:40:11
Speaker 8: Yeah, Hi, Dan, can you hear me?

00:40:12
Speaker 2: Yes?

00:40:14
Speaker 8: Yeah, Hi, Yeah, Austin and California. I called a couple of weeks ago, one of a few Bengals fans there in California. You know, I was listening to your Thanks for taking my call. I was listening to your interview with Mike really really nicely done. A fan of Mike as well, and you talked about how you grew up a Bengals red stand but you kind of dropped all of your fandom when you joined Sports Center. And I know you've talked about this several times on your show in the past, but I just I don't know, like deep down, is it always still in you? Like, for example, if the Bengals were in the Super Bowl and they played another team and everything being objective and there's no real underdog story, it's too even teams. Do you not deep down route for the team that you grew up rooting for or how do you how have you taken that out of your conscience?

00:40:57
Speaker 2: Now I would root for the fan base in cincinnat but I don't have any loyalty to the Bengals or the Reds. I want a good story, but you America doesn't need to hear how much I love a team or don't love a team. I just didn't want to put that biased in And look, it's worked for Chris Berman, it's worked for other people, Stuart Scott with Greeney. I just that was the path that I chose. Difficult at the time, but I'm glad I did it that way. Final hour on this Wednesday, Jimmy Rollins will stop by. We'll talk some baseball with him after this