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ACC Network analyst Carlos Boozer discusses what it is like raising his two sons at Duke, and he looks back on Prince renting out his house. Baseball Hall of Famer John Smoltz describes how international baseball is gaining real momentum and praises Paul Skenes for his work ethic. Basketball Hall of Famer Reggie Miller looks back on March Madness heartbreak and dismisses criticism of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. 

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Carlos Boozer acc Network basketball analyst and he joins us on behalf of DraftKings, one of the most exciting places for March Madness. DraftKings has products available for fans nationwide. DraftKings, Sports Book, Predictions, Daily Fantasy Sports. How often does this story about Prince renting your home come up?

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Speaker 3: Dan? How you doing, man? Good morning? It comes up. It comes up often for those that know the story. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The one thing that stands out because when you told us the story that you rented your house in LA to Prince and then you came back. How long did he rent that house for?

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Speaker 3: He rented it for a year. Okay, he rented it for a year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you come back after a year.

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Speaker 3: No, So he rented it for me for a year.

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Speaker 4: I had tore my hamstring and you saw when I was playing for the Jazz, came to La to get physical there and I popped in on I called him a couple of times, hadn't heard from him, popped up at the house and this is my first big purchase. By the way, I'm a young twenty one year old guy. Brought this huge house in bel Air, trying to show off what you know, what do you go for it? And then read it out the prince because I'm not going to be there for eight months, going to be in Utah anyway.

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Speaker 3: And I get there and everything is purple.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: My wife at the time had decorated the house beautifully, Italian rugs and all this fancy stuff that I have no idea what it is. And then I come in and he basically turned all the rugs purple and black. He had his picture everywhere in the house. One of the cool things that he did that my kids actually liked is he turned my weight room into like a nightclub. He had a DJ booth and like a disco ball. My kids kind of thought that was kind of cool. But other than that, I was. I was livid. But he ended up changing it all back before he moved out.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't ask for any He's not saying if he can have permission to do any of this stuff.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he was basically playing ninety five random months and he's prince, so you know, he gets he gets grace when he's prince. When most of the most of us we was born to his music, and then he was on tour doing his three one two one album, so he was kind of hard to reach, but did not ask for permission, but he did change it back and I appreciate it that.

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Speaker 2: But did he leave you anything? You got a memorabilia from Prince?

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Speaker 4: I did get a sign photo that him and I took when he signed the Least Agreement when we met.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, you need a guitar or something like that.

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Speaker 3: That's what I should have got.

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Speaker 2: He read, absolutely, Well, thank you for sharing again, because it feels like whenever that story kind of surfaces once a year and like poor Carlos, he got to tell that story again and again and again. You were there with so Lebron's rookie year in Cleveland. That was your second year. So that that's the only year you played with Lebron, right correct?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay, we also shared some Olympics and All Star Games together.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But that he makes his debut in Sacramento, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? What do you remember right against the Kings who were voted.

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Speaker 2: What do you remember about that night? The hype around Lebron making his debut?

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Speaker 3: That was nuts, man, Because I was there in Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: The year before we got Lebron and they weren't that excited to habits and said there was probably probably it seemed like there was three hundred Hammerman at the baseline if you go back to that film and watched the warm ups, like, we had a hard time warming up because that arena, the Arc arena was kind of tight on the baselines, and so we had so much media trying to get every move that he made, every warm up dunk that he was doing between the legs and all these windmills and different things, and it was difficult just to warm up. But I'll tell you during the game, he was outstanding man. He played terrific. Obviously, we lost to a much better team, an older veteran group with Chris Weber and Soyakovic and Vivak and those guys Mike Bibbie.

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Speaker 3: They were loaded. But he put on the show man.

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Speaker 4: He had a hell of a game for his first game in the NBA as a true eighteen year old, and obviously, you guys know the rest is history. Became one of the best players we've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: But if I would have told you that night, that guy is still going to be playing and might be playing when your sons go into the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way I would have believed that.

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Speaker 4: The fact that he's still playing and I retired in twenty seventeen and started my career before him is remarkable. Like his genes and his work ethic and I taste care of his body is a testament to his greatness. It's it's impressive that literally, if he decides to come back next year, he'll be playing with one of my sons.

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Speaker 3: That's incredible.

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Speaker 2: When did your sons get their first recruiting letters?

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Speaker 3: I would say about eighth grade, seventh, eighth grade.

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Speaker 4: They were like thirteen, twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old and started getting some notoriety nationwide.

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Speaker 2: And how did you and their mom deal with that getting recruited that early?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we're excited, obviously.

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Speaker 4: You get excited when you you realize your kids following their passion and they're and they're getting recognized by some of the best coaches in the country. Very excited for the possibility of what their future might look like.

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Speaker 2: But the recruiting of you as opposed to your sons, no, I.

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Speaker 3: Stay out of it.

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Speaker 4: I told I told the boys, and I told their mom I was like, I don't want colleges recruiting.

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Speaker 3: Dad.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to be the one that's going to be there at six am for workouts. I'm not going to be there at two in the morning getting ready for you know, crashing for an exam.

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Speaker 3: They have to recruit the boys, and the boys.

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Speaker 4: Have to make that decision for themselves to see if they want to go to that school, if they liked that coach, they like the team, and how their make their makeup it is, do they have a chance to win a championship, all those kind of things.

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Speaker 3: So I didn't go to any of the recruiting visits.

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Speaker 4: I just I got all the notes from from from the boys when they got back, got the notes from Mom when they got back, and literally let the boys make their own decision. And they also, you know, to be quite frank, they could have chose a path of going their individual ways if they wanted to, you know, if it was best for Kayden to go somewhere else, if it was best for Cam to go to a different place, we would have welcomed that as well. But they made the choice together to stay together because it was going to be the last time that they got to choose to play together. Obviously the NBA. You never know what's going to happen down the road. You know, God willing they get to play together in the NBA, but you know, thinking that this year could be the last year that they actually play together, or something that we all had in mind.

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Speaker 2: When did Cameron get better than you?

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Speaker 3: That's a good question.

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Speaker 4: I would probably say right around like sixteen seventeen. I stopped playing playing the kids one on one. I wanted to retire undefeated. I got that goal in mind. But you know, as a dad, think about this though. As a dad, your dad is the only person that wants their sons to be better than them. Every other man wants to be better than the next man. So I'm proud of my kids for being better than me and having more skills and being able to do more with that basketball than I could.

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Speaker 2: He's Carlos Boozer, ACC Network basketball analyst joining us on behalf of DraftKings. How are you as an analyst with the ACC Games? How are you as an analyst with Duke Games?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Very different.

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Speaker 4: It's It's difficult for me because I'm such a dad and I'm obviously always coaching and trying to figure out ways to get my kids better and get them prepared for what lies ahead. So but you know, as an analyst you try to be you know, unbiased, and look, come on, man, you know I got Duke blood running through my body. I'm rooting for Duke like crazy. This is my this is my most exciting time of the year. Also, want to tell the listeners out there, go to DraftKings they're putting together.

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Speaker 3: There's super apps.

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Speaker 4: You can go to one location and have all your fun there and be responsible out there. Don't go crazy, but enjoy responsible at DraftKings. For me, I would say it's harder being a dad watching being a player because you have all this anxiety. You want to get out there and jump in and play with your kids and have them do what you see from the sideline. As a player, you actually get to go get a rebound and go shut the screen and go make a basket.

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Speaker 3: But I'm proud of my kids no matter what though.

00:08:17
Speaker 2: What was your favorite Mike Shryshevsky story.

00:08:21
Speaker 3: Man, There's so many. I mean, I remember we lost the game.

00:08:26
Speaker 4: And he felt like we didn't attack that game, that we were too passive and on our heels and we had a game coming up. And the next game, we go in the locker room and there's a white piece of paper that's covered the locker room, all over the place, white pieces of paper everywhere. We can't even sit down at our lockers. On the paper is in small black letters is the word attack. And then they have we have a big you know TV in the room. They're playing that Braveheart scene. I think it's Mel Gibson. It's like riding on the horse and he's getting the guys ready to go in battle. And then Coach K comes somersaulting in and it's like less attack, like screaming it like that. Now, mind you, let me set the stage. This is Coach K. He's won championships, he's been Coach of the Year, he's one of the most decorated coaches of all time. He's got two hip replacement surgeries, and he treated he treated every day like he had something to prove to our group. I'm seventeen, eighteen years old, I'm a teenager, and seeing the legend that he is do that for us to get us motivated, was like, man, if we don't attack this game, then what the hell are we doing.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Coach K did a summersault in the locker room.

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Speaker 4: Summer summer assault with two hip replacements. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Is there a video of this?

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Speaker 4: I don't Maybe I don't know. I didn't have a video while I was I was in the moment. But maybe, Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: I remember when I went to a game, Latner and Hurley were there, and I went to a game and then somebody said, if you get a chance to go to practice, because you're going to change your opinion of coach K. And I go, what do you mean? I go, if you see him in practice and he is a different like he was, I don't want to say maniacal, but man was he on fire and he demanded he demanded greatness. And it was one of those where you go, Wow, they're they're not lying like he is, and he's going after Laton or he's going after Hurtling. He didn't, It didn't matter. He's gonna He's gonna take you to task there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Coach K.

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Speaker 4: One of the one of his brilliant abilities is to be able to get the most out of his players, right Like he's able to get thats like I was from Juno, Alaska, Shane Battier's from the Michigan Jay willis from Jersey, down the Bust from Oregon. You know, just just talk about us four. All of us are the player of the year in our state or Gatorway Player of the Year, where mcnow's all Americans. He's able to bring us together and strip us of our individual ego to build us up to have one collective ego where we need the guy next to us. And that's a rare talent to have, especially going from an era where there's guys that are staying in college for three or four years, like late nor Grant and like we did, and then moving into the one and done era that happened for so long and still having the success that he had.

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Speaker 3: It's an incredible ability.

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Speaker 4: And it takes a guy who's had star players like he's coaching us the same way he coached that group and they went back to back championships and went the four final fours, and he's coaching every player that's come through. Duke has left a better player after playing for coach guy.

00:11:35
Speaker 2: You grew up on a military base in Alaska.

00:11:38
Speaker 3: My dad was in the military.

00:11:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, what do you think of the cold weather?

00:11:46
Speaker 4: I'm used to it. I love Juno man. I opened my eyes a different way of life. I snowboard, I go fishing, I go camping and hiking.

00:11:52
Speaker 2: And but what about finding competition in Juneo, Alaska.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean early on it was a lot of competition when I was young, but as I got older, it was tough. And so travel ball, you know, playing on the on the circuit, you know, down and down in California and New York and you know, says for they had more competition for me.

00:12:10
Speaker 3: Ended up being the right route for me.

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Speaker 4: I played for Ebo Darren Matsa Boras Travel team and I'm got a chance to play I guess the best player in the country.

00:12:18
Speaker 2: Well, good luck with the ACC network and of course joining us on behalf of DraftKings, one of the most exciting places to experience March madness. You get the Draft Kings sportsbook. A proud sponsor of this program Predictions Daily Fantasy Sports. Thanks again, Carlos, we appreciate it. Great to see you.

00:12:36
Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Dan, Great to see you too.

00:12:37
Speaker 2: That's Carlos Boozer.

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00:13:22
Speaker 2: John Smoltz on the call with Joe Davis last night World Baseball Classic the semifinals Venezuela against Italy, Team USA playing for the title tonight on Fox at eight eastern against Venezuela. You know, the atmosphere is what surprised me probably the most.

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Speaker 5: John.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I said, what's the one thing that you were surprised at so far with the Classic?

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Speaker 5: Is what? Yeah? I would say, first of all, the star factor of the amount of players that have bought in and play, especially with Temsa, that's probably the most we've ever had. You know, a lot of guys want to dip their toe in. You got to be all in or not. And that is what I've always seen from the countries that have gathered their stars, because that is the most important thing that to them. The intensity and the passion has gotten more and more and the loudness. Of course, the where we are in Miami helps because a lot of the people live here that represent those countries. So that to me has been single handedly very very obvious and very apparent who they're rooting for and how many people's out. It outweighs the American fans, that's for sure.

00:14:34
Speaker 2: How do you build a team like this not sure who's going to play. Maybe the countries it's a little bit easier for them to build their team, But for Team USA, how do they go about, you know, putting the roster together? In future World Baseball Classics.

00:14:48
Speaker 5: It starts a year in advance. That's the hard part. There's all kinds of restraints and handcuffs. I don't know why you'd want to be a manager. First and foremost, there's absolutely no upside unless you want to manage in the big lea, and it starts with a star player buying in. I think the more these tournaments have been played, you can dislike a lot of things that come along with it, and I do, But from a tournament standpoint, you don't have the freedom to do whatever you want, so you've got to take what you get. So if you get a star like Aaron Judge who's bought in and he starts talking to players and Bryce Harper, that's how it works. And look what Schemes has done at his age. The stock has gone through the roof. I just can't even imagine. You know, when it starts happening like that and you get pictures to buy in, then all of a sudden you get to showcase what you have, and then the US pressure to win it gets better because they're more equipped to win it with the players they have.

00:15:43
Speaker 2: You kind of sounded ominous with Paul's schemes, where the way he throws, how he throws, you know that it's kind of inevitable. It feels like that he's gonna break down at some point. Is that summarizing what your thoughts are with him?

00:16:00
Speaker 5: No? I mean that's the summarization of what we now come to get used to. Nobody's escaped it. He might be an outlier. Shoot, he carries a tank on his back when he's warming up a lot of things. I like that he does because he's so big and he has such great opportunity to dominate a baseball game. But what I'm more impressed is the mentality of what he's doing and how he's doing it that in and out of himself can get you away from the epidemic of injuries that we're seeing in pitchers. Because he's different, he's unique, he's six, five, sixty six whatever. I don't think buying into the narrative that it's going to happen now. We as broadcasters and former players, we report that this is happening at an alarming rate and it's not connected to the World Baseball Classic. I know that's what a lot of people want to say. It's like, well, why would I want to put my player through a World Baseball Classic when the injury rates are what they are. The reason is because we've never even addressed it. So if you don't address it, and I've been banging that drum for years, I'm glad to see players come into this event and say I'm in. I want to play for my country. I'm gonna pitch the way I possibly can to be the best that I can and deal with the mental toughness that you got to have because there's all kinds of noise, Dan, you can buy into a million of theories if you'll let yourself. And I think when I've seen this Team USA, they're not doing it and they know they have a mission. They know they need to win because they're expected to.

00:17:25
Speaker 2: He's John Spoltz to be on the call with Joe Davis tonight. It'll be on Fox Team USA playing for the title against Venezuela.

00:17:32
Speaker 5: Hew threatening is Venezuela. Well, they've got a lot of star part of themselves, but they also have a ton of emotion. You can play in a tournament like this with that kind of emotion because it's condensed. You can't do it in the rever season. You'd be wiped out. And so their ability and their belief look to try and do something they've never done. And in this tournament history it's been kind of dominated by Japan. The US has a chance to get their second. But what it would mean for the country of Venezuela and everything that had gone through and all the people that live here. You can't help but be infectious about how they are just gravitated towards that emotion. This look I had about ten twelve years ago, I probably would be bothered by this. Winning of World Baseball Classic is more important than winning a World Series. I get it now, though. I get it for the country. I get it for the players to come from that country totally understand why their passion and the importance of this weighs a little bit higher than an ultimate goal in Major League Baseball winning a World Series.

00:18:33
Speaker 2: How do you make this bigger?

00:18:36
Speaker 5: I think you make it bigger when you do it in the middle of the season, shut it down for a week. I really, I've been saying that for years. I think it's the perfect spot to showcase the international talent. You'd have everybody wearing that uniform. They'd be in mid season form. There'd be no restrictions. You truly get to see the goliath going against the goliath without them coming out and throwing a million arms. I don't know that we'll ever get there. I hope we do. Hockey did it last year. I didn't miss one second of it. I was glued to It is the most incredible event that I've ever watched. When you see what those players were doing for that country, and it was much more condensed. We could do the same thing. That's how you make it better. You can allow what this tournament has done, has accomplished its goals. In Italy, baseball is going to be thought of differently there. You've got all other countries that are bringing baseball in the forefront when other sports were really kind of marquee and king that has worked. Is it the perfect timing? No, his spring training and all these clubs think about managing Team USA. You got thirty bosses. You got thirty bosses telling you what their players can and can't do. It's a very difficult situation. But given the circumstances, this has been an epic year. It's probably the best tournament we've seen in a long time.

00:19:54
Speaker 2: Have you talked to the commissioner about this idea?

00:19:57
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, many years, many times. Absolutely. I just think it's a no brainer. But we got the Olympics, We've got other things that are that are probably getting away right now. But the international flavor in our game is so good. Even if you just did an international World versus USA, you can't come up with a roster that wouldn't be epic either way. And people, look, I think our All Star game is still the best all Star game of any sport. It's the only one worth watching. We play it closer to the regular season and everyone's still trying to figure out how to spruce it up. Well, this is how you win.

00:20:33
Speaker 2: That would be great, though, Just do like the NBA did with the USA versus the World.

00:20:39
Speaker 5: Yep, and you could do two games the wrong if you shut the game down for a week and give everybody the break they need. Is the seasons long? Could you could do so many things to promote within that week and own that week, not to mention, and I told you this before, in the weekend of that week off, have the Hall of Fame so that everybody can be aware of the present and be connected.

00:21:01
Speaker 2: Did you fill out your bracket yet?

00:21:04
Speaker 5: Not yet? I don't even know.

00:21:05
Speaker 2: I didn't even know today was St. Patti's Day.

00:21:09
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't even know. I've been on a two week road trip and I haven't even looked at one thing. I do know that the bracket that my team I root for is in the hardest bracket. Go figure. But that's just the way it is.

00:21:23
Speaker 2: But you have supreme confidence in Tom mzeld in Michigan state supreme confidence.

00:21:28
Speaker 5: I only wish I could go to Buffalo and watch it in person, but I can't get there.

00:21:33
Speaker 2: Have fun tonight, John, we'll do.

00:21:35
Speaker 5: It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:21:37
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00:21:50
Speaker 2: That's bringing Reggie Miller. Reggie on the call for the Warriors Nicks on Sunday tonight. He's got cabs at the Bucks eight Eastern on NBC and Peacock. What do you remember about your March Madness experience.

00:22:04
Speaker 7: I think my senior year going against in the first round Dan Marlen. I believe it was Central Michigan, beating them and then thinking that we were gonna have a clear cut sweet sixteen berth because we played good old best name Finnis Dimbo in Wyoming, thinking Okay, we're gonna run through them, and then we were gonna get the matchup that everyone wanted to see because we never played one another. It was a great anthony and you and LV and those high octane running rebels. That was the matchup. We overlooked Finnis, he cooked us, he cooked me, and we lost the Finnis dimbo in one and the Cowboys. That's probably what I remember most of my senior year.

00:22:56
Speaker 2: But how does that work? Explain that experience that here's Finnish den who wasn't a good NBA player. You became a Hall of famer, but on that day he was a Hall of Fame player against you guys.

00:23:08
Speaker 7: And that's the beauty of March madness when it doesn't matter what seede you are. Remember you're playing on neutral sites, you're not playing at home, and everyone is somewhat equal because of these neutral sites. And we overlooked Wyoming and this was a blockbuster game for them, and the Finnis Dembo punched his ticket to the NBA from that game. And it was a disappointing loss for my ruins.

00:23:40
Speaker 2: How long does it take to get over a loss? Well, that was your last game, it was.

00:23:45
Speaker 7: I fouled out, I didn't play great. It's difficult, but you dust yourself off and move on. But it's one of those losses that you hope you grow from and sometimes when you have losses like that, that's your best teacher.

00:24:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you learn from it and you move on. Better team in your opinion, more talented Running Rebels or the Fab five?

00:24:14
Speaker 7: Wow, very similar in terms of how they approached the game. Now are we talking about the one U and L the team that went undefeated and won the championship versus Duke Because that team was unbelievable with Grandmama, Stacy Hogben, Greg Anthony, I mean, they were loaded. But in terms of culture, right, I mean you've got to think of the Fab five. I know they didn't win a championship, but they changed the landscape and how he thought with Juwan Howard, Chris Webber, my Boy, Jalen Rose. So culture wise, I'll go with the Fab five. But I mean you got to remember those Running Rebels teams.

00:24:58
Speaker 3: They didn't win a.

00:24:58
Speaker 2: Championship, Okay, but more talented. If I go starting five Fab five against the starting five at UNLV.

00:25:07
Speaker 7: I would probably more talented would be the Fab five.

00:25:11
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I would say the same thing. I mean, Larry was great, I thought Stacey was gonna be even better.

00:25:19
Speaker 7: He was good. He was good, but because of his length, you thought at six eighty six nine, yeah, seven foot two wingspan, But he was good.

00:25:30
Speaker 5: In the NBA.

00:25:31
Speaker 7: He wasn't great, he was he was good. Greg Anthony had a good NBA career. But let's face it, those that Fab five team. Jalen Rose was great. We know about Seweb. Juwan Howard had a long NBA career now coaching, So yeah, I think career wise, you go with the Fab five.

00:25:52
Speaker 2: Talking to Reggi Miller, the Hall of Famer, you know, I don't go out of my way to talk about the Lakers, but and they do something, and they're winning, and they're you know, a game and a half up on Houston. So now you know, if they get into the top four, now you know, maybe maybe there can be a magical run here. But I don't know what's different in the last you know, two weeks or so, they won six in a row, and we've seen Lebron almost embrace that third wheel of you know, I'm going to defer, I'm going to pass, I'm going to let these two guys. Is it that simple? Because they still have to play defense.

00:26:32
Speaker 7: It's that simple, and you're right. At the end of the day, the defense will either do them in or that'll be the defining moment for them. And I think they're starting to understand how the roles will be situated because Lebron was out for those few games, that's when they started this win streak, and between Austin Reeves and Luca, they were carrying them offensively. Let's give Marcus Smart a lot of credit. He's not getting enough. People aren't talking about what he's doing at both ends of the floor. Defensively, he's been unbelievable for them. And on top of that because of all the double teaming on Luca and when Reeves drives and penetrates him knocking down big time three point shots. You know when he was with Boston and when he was winning defensive player, He's he almost is reverting back to that Marcus Smart. So I think guys are starting to understand they're getting something out of deandury Ayton in the middle, something that we hadn't seen all season. So guys are starting to figure it out. But at the end of the day, Theodore the Lakers are going to be judged by their defense and last night how they played defensively in that when on the road in Houston in a huge game with you know, there's only a half game a game separating them. I know they play again on Wednesday, which will be another big time game. But the Lakers are starting to There's always expectations with the Lakers, just like with Boston, there's always going to be expectations to win. And we dissect every single thing they do. Because one has eighteen championships, the other one at seventeen. That just comes with the territory off playing with one of these blue blood NBA franchises.

00:28:26
Speaker 2: The SGA foul baiting. You know, some players have brought this up as a player who did this and you know openly admits that he did it. What does the NBA do about the way SGA plays, if anything.

00:28:42
Speaker 7: I don't get it. I don't understand what foul beating is. We didn't say this about MJ, and MJ went to the line ten plus times. James Harden was in that same category, went to the line ten plus times. Yan is is he? I don't understand this. Play the game and you try to take advantage of whatever rules or how they're calling the game. Games changed from night to night. I know there's a general consensus of how you're supposed to play, but you have different officials each and every game. He is not what you call it rage baiting and great foubating balbating every single night. What he's attacking the defense are some calls questionable, absolutely, But I just don't get it why he gets called out all the time. Last night, Jalen Brown's been, you know, calling this out all the time. He shot twenty one for you girls last night.

00:29:43
Speaker 2: Well maybe he's learning from SGA.

00:29:45
Speaker 7: How debate then, thank you, Learn and adapt, Learn and adapt, that's what you've got to do.

00:29:54
Speaker 3: Okay.

00:29:55
Speaker 2: I brought this up and I got some criticism that I thought that maybe SGA is kind of a younger DeMar DeRozan. Now Demarta Rosen has almost twenty seven thousand points. Yeah, not exciting, Yeah, methodical, consistent gonna get you twenty at least, which is what SGA gives you and future Hall of Famer. Yes, yes, Now, we don't talk about anything else with SGA except for his scoring. Nobody brings up passing, nobody brings up defense, Nobody brings up any of that. It's just he is a bucket. He is going to score on anybody. And I thought Demartin Rosen has been doing this. Now he hasn't done it for great teams. Maybe not that you know, anywhere near the level of SGA is an MVP. But is that a fair offensive comparison between Demarta Rosen and SGA.

00:30:51
Speaker 7: It's fair, But I will say this, He's just not a bucket SGA. He's been top five in steals, so he does play defense. He is a two way player, okay, and he leads his team and assists, so he does distribute the rock. But why is he getting all this hate to me?

00:31:12
Speaker 2: Well, that's not a hate, that's not hate. I'm just saying we always look at a comp. I don't know who the comp is for SGA. We do that for all of these players. Now, certain players there isn't a comp like Joker, there is no compr Yiannis, there is no comp.

00:31:27
Speaker 7: Well, if Damar de Rosen is the comp to SGA, and I'll just ask you this, if you flip flop them and you put Damar on that OKAC team, do they win a chip? Are they fifty four wins? Right now? If you just flip them right now. Are even making a younger Damark because Damar is a little bit older. Are they still winning the chip with Damar and his SJAA and his Sacramento better.

00:31:56
Speaker 2: Well, they would be better, but they're not winning anything. But if Damar was in OKAC, I think that Okac team is that good that he wouldn't be You know. Another thing is Sga is a great closer. I mean, we haven't seen DeMar Deruzen in games where you go oh.

00:32:12
Speaker 7: De Maros is a great closer too, but.

00:32:14
Speaker 2: He just hadn't He hadn't played in big games where we noticed it. With Sga, we did see it, So maybe it is a it's men as a compliment, but it's just because they're mid range. They can get to the hoop. Nothing fancy, just it's kind of like.

00:32:28
Speaker 7: They just they just go about their business and both our bucket gears. Don't get me wrong. People need to understand. Remember Demarga Rosen when he was in Toronto. When he was in Toronto, he was a straight bucket gear and again the whole trade for Kawhi and they would he he just hasn't been on the national stage long enough for people to understand that. But remember twenty seven thousand points in the NBA. Yeah, I know you all need to remember that, all right?

00:32:59
Speaker 2: Who surpassed at a Bio? Yeah, Bam? Out of Bio's eighty three points, who can?

00:33:05
Speaker 5: Yes?

00:33:06
Speaker 2: How many players do you think could get eighty four points or more?

00:33:10
Speaker 7: I think Luca could, I believe ant Man could. I believe a Jason Tatum could. But things will have to fall into place. And again, I know you and I were probably gonna go there on this conversation with Bam. I talked about this Sunday night about Spolstra and Bam. The criticism kind of taken for how they got to the eighty three. You're a shooter, you were a scorer, Theodore, and I want Paully as I'm talking to look this up. If you got thirty one at the end of one, if you got forty three at halftime, I believe he had seventy early in the fourth, Am, I correct on.

00:34:00
Speaker 2: That Wally in sixty four after three.

00:34:04
Speaker 7: Yet sixty four after three seventy with l like nine or ten minutes left in the fourth, are you kidding me? You have to at least attempt to go for it by any means necessary.

00:34:20
Speaker 2: Well, at that point, you can't accidentally get sixty four. You can't do it in a gimmicky way. Right he didn't do that, and that.

00:34:29
Speaker 7: He didn't There was no gimmicks to the sixty four. So now from sixty four to eighty three, that's where he gets a little murky or muddy.

00:34:39
Speaker 5: But I do not care.

00:34:40
Speaker 7: I know in the fourth he was only like one of six from the field, and most of those points came from the free throw line.

00:34:45
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, I have no problem with you know, the Wizards are the ones who should be embarrassed.

00:34:51
Speaker 3: Thank you, not bad.

00:34:52
Speaker 2: I'm out of bio.

00:34:54
Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you.

00:34:55
Speaker 2: Okay, Now I did ask him this. I said, did you think about stopping eighty one because your idol Kobe had eighty one? He said no, no, because Kobe would want me to k for now it was reversed Kobe's blowing by eighty one.

00:35:13
Speaker 7: And people think, you know, when I said that that I was hating on Cold. I would never hate on Kobe and his accomplishment. It uplifts that performance to me. It uplifts what Kobe did him getting eighty three. I mean, that's unbelievable for them to be one two. We're not gonna look at Kobe's eighty one and forget about it. It was two totally different games. Kobe needed every one of those eighty one. Yeah, in that performance versus Toronto Vams was a little different. But in five, ten, fifteen, are we even gonna be talking about that. We're just gonna look at the stat sheet and say, oh my god, damn that a Bio had eighty three kudos.

00:36:00
Speaker 2: I know, come on, but as he said, he goes, look, I didn't fit the agenda because I said, why does it feel like you have to apologize for getting eighty three? And he said, because you don't expect me to get those numbers, and therefore people have a problem with it, like he had to do it in a gimmicky way.

00:36:17
Speaker 7: Right, and that's why you should almost reverse that. We should be celebrating him, like, oh my god, a guy that never ever gets the shine. It's been a great defensive player, a great team guy, reboundered defender, has a lot of gold at the Olympics for our nation. We should be celebrating Bam like this is great. I don't care how you got it. Bam, congratulations, because you'll probably never ever have. His career high was what forty one time once? Yeah, so why can't we celebrate. I don't care how he got it.

00:36:50
Speaker 2: He got it, okay, but we'lebrate that too. I always thought if you were going to beat Kobe's you had to be able to shoot the three. You had to be ball dominant, you had to be able to create your shot, and the game had to be close, had to be competitive. And so I see Luca as a guy who could go for that.

00:37:12
Speaker 3: I can't.

00:37:13
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he's got the talent to do it.

00:37:15
Speaker 7: Aunt like Tatum shoots enough threes.

00:37:19
Speaker 2: Like, but you have to want to do that. You have to have a coach who lets you do that. You don't go out on the floor and go I'm putting up seventy tonight. You just get into a rhythm where you go, all right, I got a good game going.

00:37:33
Speaker 7: Look and also too, and I saw this. You know, Kobe at one time had a sixty point through three and was up big and he shut out, sat out. Yeah, play Thompson had the same thing. He has sixty through three and was sat out. I think a young Stephan Curry a twenty eight year old Stephan Curry, not thirty eight. I think a twenty eight year old Stephan Curry in today's game, the way everyone's you know, how he the way he approached the game, could get eighty four.

00:38:09
Speaker 3: It's just crazy.

00:38:10
Speaker 7: It is crazy. It's crazy.

00:38:12
Speaker 2: But you look at the point totals. Reg teams get one thirty and lose.

00:38:17
Speaker 7: Do you remember in the nineties and early two thousands coach is saying, we can't give up thirty point quarters. Thirty point quarters, that's you got four minutes left in the first.

00:38:28
Speaker 2: That's what standard practice. Now standard now, well, for a while was first team to one hundred, our first team to ninety.

00:38:36
Speaker 7: Lawler's law, right, let's do one hundred.

00:38:38
Speaker 2: That was that was banned.

00:38:40
Speaker 7: Now it's nothing.

00:38:42
Speaker 2: It's a nightly Basis Caves and the Bucks eight Eastern on NBC and Peacock. Thank you, Reggie. Good luck to your UCLA Bruins in the tournament's men's and women.

00:38:55
Speaker 7: For the Bruins men's and women's, let's do it.

00:39:01
Speaker 2: That's Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer

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