2026 Houseplant of the Year and Tips for Making Terrariums

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Houseplants have gained traction in recent years, and for good reason! Bringing nature inside can help boost moral and give us plant lovers something to appreciate during off seasons. Hear all about the 2026 houseplant of the year and how to create your own lively terrarium.
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<v Speaker 1>Hello, my friends, and welcome into another edition of The
<v Speaker 1>Gardening Simplified Show, broadcasting from West Michigan and proven winner's
<v Speaker 1>color Choice Shrubs. It's Stacy Hervella me Rick weisst and
<v Speaker 1>our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Okay, Stacey, today some
<v Speaker 1>tropical talk. Houseplant of the Year, terrarium talk. Let's get
<v Speaker 1>right to it. The envelope please for twenty twenty six
<v Speaker 1>Houseplant of the Year Endless Cascades, shining sea star, wax vine,
<v Speaker 1>Hoya carnosa.
<v Speaker 2>It's a houseful, but it's a little plants. It's a
<v Speaker 2>big name.
<v Speaker 1>Trusses of ovate green leaves with vibrant pink variegation claim
<v Speaker 1>to fame as the pink variegation and it does not
<v Speaker 1>fade as the leaves age. And I can tell you,
<v Speaker 1>Stacey that pre being a foliage plant buyer and working
<v Speaker 1>in the industry, there are many people out there who
<v Speaker 1>love hoyas. Hoyas are long lasting, dependable, and I found
<v Speaker 1>that there were a lot of people out there who
<v Speaker 1>collect hoyas.
<v Speaker 2>Oh for good reason. You know. I think hoyas were
<v Speaker 2>they were the original monstera. I think they were the
<v Speaker 2>original plant that kind of went viral on social media
<v Speaker 2>because when you see a hoya flower, you are just like,
<v Speaker 2>what is that? I need that in my life. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I really think there are few houseplants that have such
<v Speaker 2>interesting and unique and beautiful flowers if you can get
<v Speaker 2>them to flower, absolutely, because you know, your regular old
<v Speaker 2>standard hoya carnosa is not necessarily an easy plant to
<v Speaker 2>get flower to get flowers. If it's happy, it will
<v Speaker 2>flower freely. If it's not, it will never flower. And
<v Speaker 2>it's an okay looking plant, but not like an amazing
<v Speaker 2>looking plant. And that's where one like the shining Sea
<v Speaker 2>Star comes in, where if this thing never flowers, you
<v Speaker 2>don't even mind because the foliage is so fabulous exactly.
<v Speaker 1>Hoyos are. Hoyos are wax plants, beloved for their waxy
<v Speaker 1>star shaped, fragrant flowers that often drip nectar, attract moths
<v Speaker 1>in nature, grow as epiphytes on trees and almost act
<v Speaker 1>like a trailer but also a climber, so a very
<v Speaker 1>very forgiving and resilient plant. I guess that's how I'm in.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know it's interesting that you mentioned the
<v Speaker 2>moths because it is in the apostanacy family, and that
<v Speaker 2>is the same family as milkweed. Oh and if you
<v Speaker 2>look at a milkweed flower in a hoya flower, you
<v Speaker 2>will definitely see that star like resemblance between the two.
<v Speaker 1>I learned something new today. I never made that connection
<v Speaker 1>that is.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I like that. Yeah, hoyas, you know, And of course
<v Speaker 1>hoya is easy to print. Hoya is fun to say.
<v Speaker 2>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>And it's typical for at least for me, how we
<v Speaker 1>approach botanical names, because Stacey, I think in botany, what
<v Speaker 1>you do is you have a name of a plant,
<v Speaker 1>and then all you have to do to make it
<v Speaker 1>horticulturals just add an A on the end in A
<v Speaker 1>and I A.
<v Speaker 2>You know something in that range.
<v Speaker 1>Like if you got a bogoni, you just add an
<v Speaker 1>A on the end and you got a pogonia. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and now suddenly it's horticulture.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's exactly. That is pretty much exactly what Linee
<v Speaker 2>has did. So there you go.
<v Speaker 1>Well, long lived plants with good care, hoyas can live
<v Speaker 1>for many years, potentially decades, making them what we would
<v Speaker 1>call a long term house plant.
<v Speaker 2>Definitely. I mean they are very very long lived. And
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think it's also interesting that you mentioned
<v Speaker 2>that they can go up or down, because a lot
<v Speaker 2>of climbing plants will not hang down if they like,
<v Speaker 2>they'll always try to grow up and then we'll get
<v Speaker 2>all tangled and you know, make a mess. And Hoya
<v Speaker 2>is one of those that's like, I can come up,
<v Speaker 2>I can go down. Whatever you want me to do.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be cool.
<v Speaker 1>And if you are willing to hold off on the
<v Speaker 1>water a little bit, have a nice bright window, just
<v Speaker 1>like a plant like sand zavaria, Hoya may be the
<v Speaker 1>plant for you if you're one of these people who
<v Speaker 1>struggles with keeping houseplants alive. Now, I have some houseplant
<v Speaker 1>advice for you that I've garnered over the years, and
<v Speaker 1>that is, if you have a number of houseplants stacy
<v Speaker 1>from time to time, just eat a salad in front
<v Speaker 1>of them. They will recognize what could happen to them
<v Speaker 1>if they don't behave right.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, Hoya is probably toxic being in the apostle
<v Speaker 2>and acy, so you're definitely not gonna want to eat
<v Speaker 2>eat this one. But yeah, you're asserting your dominance over
<v Speaker 2>your houseplants by eating a salad in front of them.
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Well, a lot of houseplant lovers out there, So
<v Speaker 1>let me give you a houseplant lover. Limb a rick
<v Speaker 1>can't keep up with laundry, dishes and bills, and the
<v Speaker 1>weather outside gives me chills. But my priorities are straight,
<v Speaker 1>my chores, I abdicate. It's my houseplants that give me thrills.
<v Speaker 1>To keep my fern's healthy fit, I'm there for them.
<v Speaker 1>Lickety split aphids on my fycus give me a cute
<v Speaker 1>gas stritis. I put that in there just because it rhymes.
<v Speaker 1>My plants and I are close knit. To my frondie friends,
<v Speaker 1>I say, ll see what I did yep, thank you
<v Speaker 1>to my frondie friends. I say, l as I pour
<v Speaker 1>a glass of fine merlow. We laugh, We talk around
<v Speaker 1>the clock, even dance the fan dang goal. All a stretch,
<v Speaker 1>but trying to express how some people just simply love houseplants.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know, I was there until I had my
<v Speaker 2>own outdoor garden. I find out for gardens much easier
<v Speaker 2>to take than house was. I still have my share
<v Speaker 2>of houseplants, but they're all suculents because I'm not good
<v Speaker 2>at watering, so and hoyas have like pretty average water needs.
<v Speaker 2>They're a little bit forgiving. But of course if you
<v Speaker 2>want them to look their best, and certainly if you
<v Speaker 2>want them to flower, you cannot be an uneven water
<v Speaker 2>like I am, and.
<v Speaker 1>Make sure you use soil that's well drained, a good
<v Speaker 1>quality houseplant soil. On as with any other plant, whether
<v Speaker 1>it's a hanging basket or a container, make sure you
<v Speaker 1>have good drainage holes. As long as we're on the
<v Speaker 1>topic of houseplants, I wanted to mention today Stacey, that again,
<v Speaker 1>throughout the years, I've worked with many tropical plants and
<v Speaker 1>two favorites for me for outdoors and indoors. One is
<v Speaker 1>Phoenix robellini, the pygmy date palm. They don't get too
<v Speaker 1>big and they're showstoppers in the landscape, especially if you
<v Speaker 1>have a pool area, want to put it out on
<v Speaker 1>the deck, and of course you can bring it inside
<v Speaker 1>in winter. The the other one is ad Nitia palm
<v Speaker 1>or it's commonly called the Manila palm or Christmas palm
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, there's a time of year in the northern
<v Speaker 1>Hemisphere when the fruits ripen from green to red. But
<v Speaker 1>this is a palm that is very much enjoyed by
<v Speaker 1>restaurants or bars outdoor decks really gives you that tropical feel.
<v Speaker 1>So for me, as long as we're talking about house plants,
<v Speaker 1>I did want to mention two palms, Phoenix ROBERLINI and Adnitia,
<v Speaker 1>two favorites of mine.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know I have a story about Phoenix ROBLINII.
<v Speaker 1>Oh I want to hear.
<v Speaker 2>Yes. So, when I was in horticulture school, you know,
<v Speaker 2>we did rounds, like you would rotate through all the
<v Speaker 2>different stations at the New York Botanical Garden, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>the tree rotation and the conservatory rotation. And so my
<v Speaker 2>good friend Nancy was on the conservatory rotation, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>she she had to at the end of the day,
<v Speaker 2>she had left. And so I said to the other
<v Speaker 2>person in the conservative conservatory rotation, what happened to Nancy?
<v Speaker 2>She goes, Oh, she got her ear pierced by Phoenix ROBLINEAI.
<v Speaker 2>So it's a it has big thorns. And what had
<v Speaker 2>happened is it had gone into her ear lob. She
<v Speaker 2>was working underneath the plant and it had like almost
<v Speaker 2>like pierced her ear. But the way that she said it,
<v Speaker 2>I was like, is Phoenix ROBELINII like a body artist? Like,
<v Speaker 2>is this like a like a tattoo, like the way,
<v Speaker 2>like just the inflection that she used made it sound
<v Speaker 2>like it was like someone's name, and I was just
<v Speaker 2>legitimately so confused for a few months. Nancy, who is okay,
<v Speaker 2>Everything was okay. But so when I hear Phoenix ROBILINII,
<v Speaker 2>I just think of someone who is like a you know,
<v Speaker 2>piercing artist or something like that. Tattoo artist.
<v Speaker 1>You know, I would make a great name if you
<v Speaker 1>were an actor, a music artist or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>It could be one of your aliases.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like that. I'm sticking with fil dirt. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm sticking.
<v Speaker 2>Well, you never know when you might need another one
<v Speaker 2>because people know fil dirt, so.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my, well, I tell you what loads of you know.
<v Speaker 1>You're right about that though, because again in the garden
<v Speaker 1>center industry, we would unload truckloads of these plants coming
<v Speaker 1>up from southern Florida, and many times they're bagged in
<v Speaker 1>paper bags for protection. And if you pull these plants,
<v Speaker 1>the sleeves off these plants, or some of the employees
<v Speaker 1>would bend over to care for one of these plants,
<v Speaker 1>a dressina, a palm, any of these types of plants.
<v Speaker 1>I've seen people get poked in the eye and it's
<v Speaker 1>a scary and not good thing.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, you do have to be careful, so
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily a great choice if you have kids or
<v Speaker 2>pets in the house, but if you do not. These
<v Speaker 2>are two palms that you can actually grow indoors, but
<v Speaker 2>of course they have there has to be something wrongs.
<v Speaker 1>Well growing plants indoors. In segment four, we're going to
<v Speaker 1>talk about pers and looking forward to this. Love terrariums
<v Speaker 1>if you need to interact with plants during the winter
<v Speaker 1>when you can't be outside. Terrariums have a great history,
<v Speaker 1>they're not that difficult to grow, and loads of fun.
<v Speaker 1>And we'll devote segment four to terrariums. Coming up next
<v Speaker 1>Plants on Trial. We'll see what Stacy has on her
<v Speaker 1>mind today. That's coming up next here on the Gardening Simplified.
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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show where you're talking
<v Speaker 2>about the houseplants of the year, which is endless cascades,
<v Speaker 2>shining seastar, hoya or wax flower if you prefer. I
<v Speaker 2>feel like this is one of those, you know, occasions
<v Speaker 2>where it's just better to say hoya than wax Flower's
<v Speaker 2>wax flower. People call myrtle wax flower, and that's not related.
<v Speaker 1>Have you heard the term porcelain flower? People porcelain flower.
<v Speaker 2>I'm probably not the best person to ask about common names,
<v Speaker 2>but that makes sense because it does kind of look
<v Speaker 2>like porcelain. And you know, like we were saying, this
<v Speaker 2>is a hoya that is primarily grown for its foliage
<v Speaker 2>and it's pink. There are other pink hoyas out there,
<v Speaker 2>but this is a superior selection that maintains its pink,
<v Speaker 2>whereas other ones, you know, it may kind of emerge
<v Speaker 2>pink and then it will just go variegated or go green.
<v Speaker 2>As that leaf matures on shining seastar, it really maintains
<v Speaker 2>that bright pink color. So if you love hoyas and
<v Speaker 2>you can't get them to flower, you still have something
<v Speaker 2>really interesting to look at. And as with all of
<v Speaker 2>the plants of the year, whether annuals of the year,
<v Speaker 2>shrubs of the year, or perennials of the year, you
<v Speaker 2>can count on sea these in greater numbers at the
<v Speaker 2>Garden Center, which is a great thing for people who
<v Speaker 2>are like, hey, this plant sounds pretty interesting, so now
<v Speaker 2>it would be a great time to look for it
<v Speaker 2>if you are looking to add something to your houseplant
<v Speaker 2>collection to get you through these dreary days of winter.
<v Speaker 2>And aren't we all now. One of the things that
<v Speaker 2>was getting oh yeah, oh yeah, I like it. I
<v Speaker 2>like it. So one of the things that is really
<v Speaker 2>helping me get through these dreary days of winter. As
<v Speaker 2>we talked about the various plants of the year, was
<v Speaker 2>thinking about the companion plants. And that's kind of how
<v Speaker 2>I framed all of the plants of the year up
<v Speaker 2>until now, because you know, it makes sense for shrub's,
<v Speaker 2>perennials and annuals, you know, thinking about what would this
<v Speaker 2>plant pair nicely with in terms of color, size, shape,
<v Speaker 2>all of that. Really enjoy doing that. But then we
<v Speaker 2>come to house plan of the year, not really a
<v Speaker 2>companion plant kind of plants, right because This is not
<v Speaker 2>a hardy plant, is tropical. It cannot see the cold.
<v Speaker 2>It can't even look at the cold. Like, if you
<v Speaker 2>go and buy this thing in these extremely cold days
<v Speaker 2>that we're having here in Michigan and through much of
<v Speaker 2>the country, do not try to carry this even into
<v Speaker 2>your house without a bag. It would not be good.
<v Speaker 2>I would say that for any indoor plants that you're buying,
<v Speaker 2>So companion plants out of the question. So I got
<v Speaker 2>to thinking, do we have a shrub in the proven
<v Speaker 2>Winner's color Choice line with a similar kind of foliage?
<v Speaker 2>And it's going to come as no surprise to you,
<v Speaker 2>as it comes as no surprise to me or Rick
<v Speaker 2>or Adriana. That indeed we do, and that is today's
<v Speaker 2>plant on trial. Sergeant Pepper Dogwood.
<v Speaker 1>Love that plan.
<v Speaker 2>It is so cool, and this is its first year
<v Speaker 2>on the market, So twenty twenty six is really the
<v Speaker 2>first season this plant is going to be out there
<v Speaker 2>in the marketplace. Now, dogwoods can mean a lot of
<v Speaker 2>different things to different people, because there's dogwood trees and
<v Speaker 2>this kind of dogwood and that kind of dogwood. So
<v Speaker 2>this is a cornice alba, which is the European dogwood
<v Speaker 2>or the white dogwood. So it's very much like our
<v Speaker 2>standard red twig dogwood that is native Cornice stolenifera, but
<v Speaker 2>it's native to Europe, so it has a different species
<v Speaker 2>and that is Cornics alba. But otherwise it's pretty similar
<v Speaker 2>in its overall shape and size and the way that
<v Speaker 2>it grows, with one major difference, and that is that
<v Speaker 2>it has variegated foliage. Now it's not just any regular
<v Speaker 2>variegated foliage yet most people you hear variegated foliage, you
<v Speaker 2>think of kind of like a green center and a
<v Speaker 2>white edge, or a green edge and a white center,
<v Speaker 2>something you know, pretty standard like that. And this is
<v Speaker 2>that it starts it has a white edge and a
<v Speaker 2>green center. But in spring, when it emerges, it is
<v Speaker 2>flushed pink, not unlike the shining Sea starvoyage. Very similar. Now,
<v Speaker 2>as soon as it starts getting warmer and the days
<v Speaker 2>are getting longer, that pink is going to fade and
<v Speaker 2>you're going to have, you know, kind of a standard
<v Speaker 2>variegated green and white dogwood for the rest of the season,
<v Speaker 2>which is really nice. I have seen very gated dogwoods
<v Speaker 2>like this used to excellent effect, especially in perennial gardens.
<v Speaker 2>Shrub borders anything like that, because they really do add
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of light and movement and interest. Now
<v Speaker 2>it's looking perfectly swell all season long, but then we
<v Speaker 2>come to late summer, late August, early fall, the nights
<v Speaker 2>are now getting longer and a little bit cooler, and
<v Speaker 2>that is bringing that pink coloration roaring back, and so
<v Speaker 2>September October until you get those really hard for us
<v Speaker 2>that cause it to defoliate, it's just getting pinker and
<v Speaker 2>pinker and pinker until it's a very very deep pink
<v Speaker 2>and that's kind of like an overlay over the green
<v Speaker 2>and white variation. So it's a pretty unique look. We
<v Speaker 2>have them here in our trial gardens, and I think
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about them on at least one of our
<v Speaker 2>garden too.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you introduced me to the plant, and I'm like, wow, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's stunning.
<v Speaker 2>It is really really cool and just a very different
<v Speaker 2>look for this plant. It does come to us from Europe,
<v Speaker 2>not surprised, I think, since it is the European native
<v Speaker 2>species and it is a huge hit over there where
<v Speaker 2>it's sold under the name Miracle because of this really
<v Speaker 2>unique coloration. And we're really excited to be able to
<v Speaker 2>bring it to North America because it is so well
<v Speaker 2>suited to so many conditions here.
<v Speaker 1>Sure.
<v Speaker 2>Now, unfortunately for all of our hot climate viewers, we
<v Speaker 2>love you, we appreciate you, but this is not a
<v Speaker 2>plant for you. I'm afraid it is only heat tolerant
<v Speaker 2>through USDA Zone seven, and that's not uncommon for these
<v Speaker 2>shrubby dogwoods to just not have that level of heat tolerance,
<v Speaker 2>although the treat dogwoods do tend to be far more
<v Speaker 2>heat tolerant, so you're not completely devoid of a dogwood.
<v Speaker 2>Now it's hardy down to USDA Zone three. So cold
<v Speaker 2>climate gardeners, you've got it made with this one. And
<v Speaker 2>that matters because, very much like our standard native red
<v Speaker 2>twig dogwood, this also gets red twigs in winter, so
<v Speaker 2>it's got a lot going for it. You really get
<v Speaker 2>all of that great season you know, year round, really
<v Speaker 2>interest for this plant, and you get that same durability
<v Speaker 2>that people expect from red twig dogwood.
<v Speaker 1>I'd classify it as a plant that's easy to grow
<v Speaker 1>and Stacy, what I love about this. I've always said
<v Speaker 1>pink is a color that plays well in the landscape.
<v Speaker 1>So if we're talking about combinations, you know, pink does
<v Speaker 1>great with orange, red, burgundy, green, whatever it may be.
<v Speaker 1>So this plant I think would find a home in
<v Speaker 1>your landscape.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, And it would be a great pairing for
<v Speaker 2>any of those darker foliaged perennials. Yes, you know, black purple.
<v Speaker 2>We've talked a lot about that, I think so far
<v Speaker 2>this month, about how sometimes those can just kind of
<v Speaker 2>blend in with the soil, and when you have something
<v Speaker 2>like this, it's really popping and contrasting with that color,
<v Speaker 2>and it's really just again a great companion plant for
<v Speaker 2>whatever in the garden. I do love them. With perennial gardens.
<v Speaker 2>You'll see them incorporated a lot as kind of a
<v Speaker 2>structural or specimen type element in a perennial garden. It's
<v Speaker 2>just a great choice to grow well if you want
<v Speaker 2>that ultimate red twig color. This is a plant that
<v Speaker 2>you are going to have to trim every winter or
<v Speaker 2>every late late winter early spring, because as those stems
<v Speaker 2>start to get older, really over like three years old,
<v Speaker 2>it starts to develop a barkie, quirky kind of growth
<v Speaker 2>on the outside, so you need to keep the growth
<v Speaker 2>juvenile or younger. So basically what that means is you
<v Speaker 2>can just go through and take out the oldest third
<v Speaker 2>of stems every couple of years wherever is not colorful anymore.
<v Speaker 2>Or some people like to grow it by pollarting it
<v Speaker 2>and taking it all the way down to the ground.
<v Speaker 2>Both of those are perfectly valid ways to manage it,
<v Speaker 2>although of course you're not going to want to pullart
<v Speaker 2>it until it's well established at least three years in
<v Speaker 2>the ground so it has the root system to come back.
<v Speaker 2>And anyway, when you have a new plant like that,
<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna have to worry about it developing that
<v Speaker 2>quirky growth on the red stems for a couple of
<v Speaker 2>years and just.
<v Speaker 1>Like Arctic fire, pruning those brands, choose using them in
<v Speaker 1>your Christmas deth.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's a win wind because especially if you're
<v Speaker 2>pruning in early winter and you don't you know, there's
<v Speaker 2>no plant health related reason why you can't prune it
<v Speaker 2>in early winter and use those stems for decre indoors
<v Speaker 2>or out. But yeah, so it's a it's a win
<v Speaker 2>win in that regard. Now, this is a plant that
<v Speaker 2>if you wanted to install many of them or do
<v Speaker 2>it as a hedge, it's going to be a personal
<v Speaker 2>taste thing because it is variegated, and that can be
<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of variegation. Now in our garden, I
<v Speaker 2>think we have a hedge of maybe four or five
<v Speaker 2>plants that looks quite good. I do like it. It's surrounded
<v Speaker 2>by a lot of other plants, so it kind of
<v Speaker 2>helps to blend it in. But yeah, a really unique plant,
<v Speaker 2>great looking. It is on the little the larger size.
<v Speaker 2>It's about four to six feet tall. It can be
<v Speaker 2>managed shorter through pruning. If you do want to do that.
<v Speaker 2>You know, you can kind of trim it, and we do.
<v Speaker 2>The ones in our trial garden are trimmed slightly into
<v Speaker 2>a rounded shape. But again, because of it's a dogwood,
<v Speaker 2>it has all of this versatility in its care and
<v Speaker 2>how you grow it and how you use it and
<v Speaker 2>how it performs. I mean just really, like you said,
<v Speaker 2>one of the easiest to grow plants. And I love
<v Speaker 2>how this plant, Sergeant Pepper dogwood kind of puts a
<v Speaker 2>twist on such a classic plant and gives you a
<v Speaker 2>lot more interest during the growing season as compared to
<v Speaker 2>a regular one, which just of course has plain green foliage.
<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that it comes to us from Europe.
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the notes here.
<v Speaker 2>Netherlands, the Netherlands.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, my heritage, so that's pretty cool. And sold
<v Speaker 1>as Miracle.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and so in the EU it is sold as Miracle.
<v Speaker 2>So if we have anybody joining us from abroad and
<v Speaker 2>you want this plant, you can get it. Just look
<v Speaker 2>for Miracle. For those of us in the US and Canada,
<v Speaker 2>it is going to be sold as Sergeant Pepper Dogwood
<v Speaker 2>and you will find it for the first time ever
<v Speaker 2>in North America in your garden center this season. Be
<v Speaker 2>sure to put it on your planting list if you
<v Speaker 2>are interested. If you want to see what it looks like,
<v Speaker 2>join up us on YouTube. Adriana puts all sorts of
<v Speaker 2>great photos in there. Of course, you can find it
<v Speaker 2>at proven Winter's Color Choice dot Com. Lots of ways
<v Speaker 2>to learn more about Startet Pepper Dogwood and of course
<v Speaker 2>Shining c Star Oia, the twenty twenty six Houseplant of
<v Speaker 2>the Year. We're gonna take a little break. When we
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<v Speaker 2>back to the Gardening Simplify Show, where we are definitely
<v Speaker 2>reaching the season of gardening questions. Not quite the fever
<v Speaker 2>pitch of spring, right, but getting there we are because
<v Speaker 2>you know, people start thinking again. Their dreamings are no
<v Speaker 2>longer just on the holidays and what they're going to
<v Speaker 2>make and who they're going to invite to whatever. So yeah,
<v Speaker 2>lots of stuff going on. So if you want to
<v Speaker 2>reach out to us with any of your gardening questions, quandaries,
<v Speaker 2>conundrums or celebrations, you can do that at Gardening Simplified
<v Speaker 2>on air dot com. We would love to hear from you.
<v Speaker 2>And speaking of hearing from people here, you got some
<v Speaker 2>cool stuff cooking up in the next couple weeks.
<v Speaker 1>Got some fun dates coming up. I just want to
<v Speaker 1>mention to people who may be in the area in
<v Speaker 1>West Michigan or the Chicago area. On January thirty one,
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing a comedy show at the Beardsley Theater. Would
<v Speaker 1>love to have you come out. We'll pass along the
<v Speaker 1>link for tickets. And then March fourteen, I'm going to
<v Speaker 1>be at plat Hill Nursery in Chicago, actually in the
<v Speaker 1>suburbs of Chicago, Carpentersville, Platt Hill Nursery. It's about thirty
<v Speaker 1>miles west of the Lake Shore or the Chicago Botanic
<v Speaker 1>Garden and gonna meet and greet with people there. So
<v Speaker 1>that's March fourteen, Plat Hill Nursery in Carpentersville, Illinois.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, we should mention about your comedy show
<v Speaker 2>at the Beardsley Theater and Muskegan. Not that this comes
<v Speaker 2>as any surprise to our listeners, but it should be mentioned.
<v Speaker 2>It is clean comedy, It is clean. This is a
<v Speaker 2>family friendly show, so it's not like he has a
<v Speaker 2>late night date night kind of situation. You can bring
<v Speaker 2>the whole family and it's for a great cause. So
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be and there's two shows.
<v Speaker 1>Two shows. We'll throw some gardening humor in there too.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, if you can't stay up late like some people,
<v Speaker 2>including myself, you can go to the early show. If
<v Speaker 2>you're night out, you can go to me. So win win,
<v Speaker 2>It's great all around. Now let's get back to the
<v Speaker 2>mail bag. Okay, and I you know, I have this
<v Speaker 2>first question I thought very appropriate for today's topic.
<v Speaker 1>Niki asks. My question is regarding myself facing sunroom. I
<v Speaker 1>have some houseplants out there, but they've shown signs of
<v Speaker 1>getting too much sun leaf scorch. All of those plants
<v Speaker 1>have otherwise been happy in my home, just not that spot.
<v Speaker 1>I'm finding this a tricky place for plant selection because
<v Speaker 1>it's technically indoors, yet it seems to be too much
<v Speaker 1>sun for most houseplants. I'm wondering what plants you might recommend.
<v Speaker 1>I dream of a sunroom filled with beautiful greenery.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to first of all say that NICKI
<v Speaker 2>does not mention in what season she is seeing this damage,
<v Speaker 2>but I would put out there that there is a
<v Speaker 2>possibility it's actually cold damage, because you know, a lot
<v Speaker 2>of times, like unless you have a really nice, newer
<v Speaker 2>built conservatory, they can be a little bit leaky on
<v Speaker 2>the cold air. And a lot of tropical plants are
<v Speaker 2>extremely sensitive to even a little bit of cold, you know,
<v Speaker 2>so you know, if you're seeing this in summer, then yes,
<v Speaker 2>obviously it's not cold, it's leaf scorch or possibly heat.
<v Speaker 2>But if you're seeing this in winter and you're finding
<v Speaker 2>the plants are doing okay indoors, I would at least
<v Speaker 2>entertain the possibility that it could be related to the
<v Speaker 2>sun room being a little bit colder than you might expect,
<v Speaker 2>especially in winter when you're not getting very much sun,
<v Speaker 2>So that's a possibility. I would also say, if you
<v Speaker 2>do believe it is too much sun you can get
<v Speaker 2>you can look these up online. An old fashioned greenhouse shade,
<v Speaker 2>so they're kind of like a roll of slats, of
<v Speaker 2>wooden slats, and you can just roll them up and
<v Speaker 2>down and that helps to provide some shade as well.
<v Speaker 2>Fairly inexpensive, I would imagine, but if you're in a
<v Speaker 2>can't beat them, join them, I would think this sounds
<v Speaker 2>like a perfect scenario for citrus.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, citrus would be great. By the way, old fashioned
<v Speaker 1>glass greenhouses, they'd spray them with a whiting material. Also,
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, but you're probably not going to want to
<v Speaker 1>do that.
<v Speaker 2>Now, it's not necessarily the most attractive thing for your home.
<v Speaker 1>But citrus is a great choice. And you know, for me,
<v Speaker 1>most houseplants like bright indirect light, so if they're you know,
<v Speaker 1>that's how they suggest you grow your orchids, for example.
<v Speaker 1>So for me, I would suggest to nikky jade plant
<v Speaker 1>Croton's would be a good choice. Palms, bird of Paradise
<v Speaker 1>is a great choice. One of my favorite houseplants is
<v Speaker 1>ponytail palm, and that thing is tough and that would
<v Speaker 1>be able to handle the direct light, string of pearls,
<v Speaker 1>any of your dressinas, banana sandsavaria aloes. So there are
<v Speaker 1>some houseplants that can handle more intense light.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, for sure. I think that all those great
<v Speaker 2>again palms and crotons are great because crotons really need
<v Speaker 2>a lot of bright sun and all yet all of
<v Speaker 2>that wacky color that they have, you know, always I
<v Speaker 2>think a good solution too, if you can in this
<v Speaker 2>scenario is go visit a local public garden that has
<v Speaker 2>a conservatory and observe really what is going on, because
<v Speaker 2>they are the ones who are really going to be
<v Speaker 2>maximizing the various light exposures of the conservatory, and I
<v Speaker 2>think you can learn a lot, you know, by seeing
<v Speaker 2>what is thriving in those areas versus you know, just
<v Speaker 2>kind of guessing at it. But definitely consider the fact
<v Speaker 2>that it could be cold. I think citrus, you know,
<v Speaker 2>obviously it's not a cold tolerant plant, but any of
<v Speaker 2>those Mediterranean kind of plants, they can usually take some coolness.
<v Speaker 2>And really the best temperature for citrus in winter is like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, fifty. It doesn't want to be as warm
<v Speaker 2>as the house. And I'm pretty sure you can't give
<v Speaker 2>a citrus plant too much light, so you also can't
<v Speaker 2>give it too much fertilizer, So bear that in mind
<v Speaker 2>if they start looking poorly. So I hope that helps you, Nikki,
<v Speaker 2>and good luck, very very good problem to have. How
<v Speaker 2>to fill a sunroom, you bet you.
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I'd suggest clusia also, which is known
<v Speaker 1>as autograph plant. Jenny Asks. Two years ago, I planted
<v Speaker 1>a new garden that is adjacent to a ligne of
<v Speaker 1>mature trees. There is significant root competition in the area,
<v Speaker 1>so I began with quartz sized shrubs trees that perform
<v Speaker 1>well in other parts of my yard, little quickfire hydrangeas
<v Speaker 1>fluffy arbor vities, lemony lace, elderberry, fothergilla, etc. I ran
<v Speaker 1>drip irrigation to each plant. Everything is healthy, but growth
<v Speaker 1>has been extremely slow when compared to the same varieties
<v Speaker 1>of shrubs in other areas of my yard. So the
<v Speaker 1>question when gardening in an area with extreme root competition,
<v Speaker 1>do you recommend fertilizing more regularly during the growing season
<v Speaker 1>to make up for the nutrient loss. I typically only
<v Speaker 1>fertilized my shrubs and trees once in the spring with
<v Speaker 1>an organic product.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so definitely a common problem trying to plant around
<v Speaker 2>trees and tree roots making it difficult. I think you
<v Speaker 2>did the right things starting with small plants, yes, so
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to dig huge holes in and around
<v Speaker 2>all of those. But I would also say that the
<v Speaker 2>quart sized shrub that Jenny's referencing here, these are something
<v Speaker 2>that you get via mail order and in the ground.
<v Speaker 2>They are pretty slow to get established. They're quite small,
<v Speaker 2>so it takes them a while. These court sized shrubs
<v Speaker 2>that you buy from e commerce websites are the same
<v Speaker 2>plants that we are selling here at Proven Winners Color
<v Speaker 2>Choice shrubs to growers to pot up and grow under
<v Speaker 2>more sort of strict conditions to produce a crop more
<v Speaker 2>in agricultural rather than a horticultural kind of condition, So
<v Speaker 2>they grow very fast in that environment. But outside, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>they have a lot more to deal with, so I'm
<v Speaker 2>not surprised that it's taking them longer. I would say
<v Speaker 2>you can certainly fertilize that will help them grow more.
<v Speaker 2>And the interesting thing, the reason that I wanted to
<v Speaker 2>bring this up is because you don't necessarily have to
<v Speaker 2>worry that the fertilizing that you are giving these plants
<v Speaker 2>that the tree will compete with them. It really depends
<v Speaker 2>on where they are within the tree canopy. But when
<v Speaker 2>you fertilize a tree, you don't fertilize up under the canopy.
<v Speaker 2>You fertilize it the drip line on the outer edges
<v Speaker 2>of the tree. So if these are planted within the
<v Speaker 2>drip line, you don't need to worry that you're actually
<v Speaker 2>fertilizing the tree and not your shrub. I think that
<v Speaker 2>like basically all of the nutrients will end up going
<v Speaker 2>to the shrubs and they should be able to take
<v Speaker 2>advantage of that and start growing a little bit more greatly.
<v Speaker 2>But I mean it's it's still a tough condition for
<v Speaker 2>roots to grow in when there's already a bunch of
<v Speaker 2>roots there, and tree roots, you know, are even though
<v Speaker 2>shrubs are woody plants, they don't get the big, you know,
<v Speaker 2>honkin' woody roots that trees gets the honk and roots
<v Speaker 2>they don't get them. So they definitely need a lot
<v Speaker 2>more time to get established and be able to effectively
<v Speaker 2>try to compete against the tree. So a little bit
<v Speaker 2>more time, a little bit more TLC. I would definitely
<v Speaker 2>keep that drip irrigation going for the tree. And yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, within the next couple of years
<v Speaker 2>you should start seeing those tiny plants really coming into
<v Speaker 2>their own. Well, those were some great questions. I hope
<v Speaker 2>we gave you some good, useful advice that you can
<v Speaker 2>use or maybe our audience could use as well. We're
<v Speaker 2>going to take a little break. When we come back,
<v Speaker 2>we are talking about terrariums, a subject we are both
<v Speaker 2>passionate about, so please stay tuned. Thanks for listening to
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. We'll dive right
<v Speaker 1>into it. Terrariums fascinating. I suggest you look up the
<v Speaker 1>history of terrariums. I won't dwell on that today, but
<v Speaker 1>it's fascinating when you look at doctor Nathaniel Bagshawe Ward
<v Speaker 1>and how he played a significant horticultural role in globalization.
<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say that based on a horticultural accident,
<v Speaker 1>that he had a fern plant that grew in a jar,
<v Speaker 1>and thus terrariums came along. It wasn't a do it
<v Speaker 1>yourself hobby project in the nineteenth century. As a matter
<v Speaker 1>of fact, mister Ward developed something that was known as
<v Speaker 1>a Wardian case, and it's essentially how they were able
<v Speaker 1>to move plants or cuttings of plants across the ocean.
<v Speaker 1>Plants that would normally die en route, Stacey, they could
<v Speaker 1>put them in the these terrarium like cases and transfer
<v Speaker 1>plants to a new continent.
<v Speaker 2>Right, made a huge difference.
<v Speaker 1>And look where we are now exactly exactly now. Of course,
<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna grow a terrarium, Stacey, it's probably needless
<v Speaker 1>to say that it's important to select the appropriate plants,
<v Speaker 1>and for closed terrariums, you're gonna want plants that can
<v Speaker 1>handle high humidity, do not get too large. So we're
<v Speaker 1>talking about plants like Fittonia, which is nerve plant, ferns,
<v Speaker 1>maybe a button fern moss of course, cushion moss or
<v Speaker 1>sheet moss. It provides the forest floor in a terrarium, Peppermias,
<v Speaker 1>creeping figs. Those are plant the types of plants that
<v Speaker 1>we would put in a closed terrarium. In an open
<v Speaker 1>terrarium or a low humidity terrarium, obviously, there are many
<v Speaker 1>different types of containers we could use and they're stacey.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna use succulents like Echavaria, etchavaria, jade plants, Howorthia, cacti,
<v Speaker 1>and even maybe some talanzia, some air plants. So there's
<v Speaker 1>a lot of variety to use. If you decide that
<v Speaker 1>terrariums are something you want to take a.
<v Speaker 2>Shot at, right and you know, if you are going
<v Speaker 2>to have more of the desert style terrarium, obviously it's
<v Speaker 2>going to need a lot less water. But interestingly, if
<v Speaker 2>you have a close terrarium, they typically don't need very
<v Speaker 2>much water either, because they start to respire. The plants
<v Speaker 2>are transpiring water and they kind of become a self
<v Speaker 2>sustaining ecosystem. And I think that's really what the appeal
<v Speaker 2>of a terrarium is that you've created this little world, yes,
<v Speaker 2>and it's contained and it's yours, and you watch it grow.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I think every time that I've had a terrarium,
<v Speaker 2>it's just been a source of fascination for myself as
<v Speaker 2>well as anyone who's seen it. And I do think
<v Speaker 2>this stems from growing up in then nineteen seventies. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>and my mom had a big old bottle terrarium in
<v Speaker 2>our living room, you know, like one of those floor
<v Speaker 2>bottles is like this tall. And you know, I honestly
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if she planted it, or she bought
<v Speaker 2>it or someone gave it to her, or what the
<v Speaker 2>situation was. But back then, and I still have some
<v Speaker 2>seventies house pump books because I love those seventies houseplant books.
<v Speaker 2>They're so great.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 2>They would show these instructions of planting these bottle terrariums,
<v Speaker 2>and you would roll up little plants in a strip
<v Speaker 2>of newspaper and slowly lower it down through the neck
<v Speaker 2>of the bottle, and they made these long handled tools. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>mostly nowadays teriums are a little bit more simple, a.
<v Speaker 1>Little more simple, But back then, yes, like people would
<v Speaker 1>give up on fish, you know, maybe too expensive and
<v Speaker 1>convert it into a terrarium. Similar how to how people
<v Speaker 1>will give up on a pool outside and convert it
<v Speaker 1>into a garden or a pond. But you're you're right
<v Speaker 1>about that. And I was there in the seventies as
<v Speaker 1>a young man in the garden center industry, and we
<v Speaker 1>had glass and glass containers everywhere, every imaginable shape size,
<v Speaker 1>Like you mentioned, the tools, the soils in order to
<v Speaker 1>grow terrariums. There truly was a terrarium craze, along with
<v Speaker 1>the shag carpeting, the wood paneling and the macrom plant hangers.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it all goes together.
<v Speaker 1>Now. Of course, the foundation is super important, and usually
<v Speaker 1>we'll add some pebbles for the base layer to improve
<v Speaker 1>or encourage drainage. And yet you made a very important
<v Speaker 1>point and the key point here, Stacey, and that is
<v Speaker 1>you called it a self sustaining ecosystem something like that.
<v Speaker 1>So you're not going to be in there watering much.
<v Speaker 2>No, you don't usually need to.
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, so the pebbles at the base. Sometimes charcoal is used.
<v Speaker 1>You can purchase to put a thin layer of charcoal
<v Speaker 1>to absorb excess moisture, reduce bacteria and odors. And I
<v Speaker 1>always liked selling in the garden center. I always found
<v Speaker 1>them fun to use too. Is I called them lekka
<v Speaker 1>l eca. It's an acronym for clay pebbles or lightweight
<v Speaker 1>expanded clay aggregate. And you can buy these in small bags,
<v Speaker 1>and boyd does that really help and aid in growing
<v Speaker 1>a terrarium.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it helps to absorb any like nasty smells in
<v Speaker 2>the water. And I think we should mention that when
<v Speaker 2>Rick mentions charcoal as the base layer in a terrarium,
<v Speaker 2>it is not barbecue.
<v Speaker 1>Charcoal things free.
<v Speaker 2>It is not. It is a special horticultural charcoal that
<v Speaker 2>you can get at garden centers. And you know, it
<v Speaker 2>really makes a good thing to add at the bottom
<v Speaker 2>of any houseplant. You don't just have to use it
<v Speaker 2>for terrariums, although that is probably its most popular use.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean, I've made dozens of terrariums over
<v Speaker 2>my time and always put a layer of charcoal in
<v Speaker 2>the bottom and it works great.
<v Speaker 1>Now. My question for you, Stacy would be with your
<v Speaker 1>experience in growing terrariums. One of the fun things out
<v Speaker 1>in the outdoor landscape for me is hard scaping, you know, pergolas,
<v Speaker 1>stone paths, that type of thing. That's the fun thing
<v Speaker 1>about terrariums is that that piece, the resistant so to speak,
<v Speaker 1>the mushroom or some kind of character or something you
<v Speaker 1>can put in the terrarium. Did you do that?
<v Speaker 2>I have never done that. No. No, For me, it's
<v Speaker 2>really been about the plants, okay. And you know that's
<v Speaker 2>because you know, most a lot of these tropical plants
<v Speaker 2>you can only grow in term. They really benefit from
<v Speaker 2>that extra humidity. And you know, I've never done that,
<v Speaker 2>but I would be interested in the future in doing
<v Speaker 2>a vivarium, like with rainforest frogs. So a vivarium is
<v Speaker 2>like a terrarium, but it has a living thing in it.
<v Speaker 2>So you know, like rainforest frogs surrounded by like tropical plants. Wow,
<v Speaker 2>you need really high humidity and light for all of that.
<v Speaker 2>But like that would be like a dream for me.
<v Speaker 1>And the frogs.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you just feed them like crickets or you can
<v Speaker 2>you know, other like insects, you just put it in
<v Speaker 2>there and they pounce on them. And I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>those frogs are so cool. I've seen them like it
<v Speaker 2>that I believe the Atlanta Botanical Garden has a really
<v Speaker 2>cool exhibit of them, and I just fell completely in love.
<v Speaker 1>Wow. So there's a hobby that's ribbiting.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I'm sure it would be. I haven't tried
<v Speaker 2>it yet, but yes, I would definitely be interested. But
<v Speaker 2>you do have to kind of invest. It's not this
<v Speaker 2>one is not usually going to be like your standard like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>I got an old ten gallon fish tank in the basement.
<v Speaker 2>You need more specialty equipment for to make sure that
<v Speaker 2>the frogs are happy and healthy, and of course you
<v Speaker 2>need to pick plants that are you know, good for
<v Speaker 2>them to be around. But then you create this whole
<v Speaker 2>little world for your froggy friends. I love it.
<v Speaker 1>You know, in northern regions we struggle indoors with static
<v Speaker 1>electricity and the furnaces running and it's so dry and
<v Speaker 1>the air gets dry indoors. There's something about a terrarium
<v Speaker 1>and that environment, that self sustaining environment, having the ability
<v Speaker 1>to cap it off from now and then venting it
<v Speaker 1>for some air keeping the terrarium clean. But that humidity
<v Speaker 1>that the terrarium allows those plants is received well by
<v Speaker 1>tropical plants that you try to grow in a terrarium
<v Speaker 1>because our household air can get pretty.
<v Speaker 2>Dry, oh for sure. So it really opens up so
<v Speaker 2>many possibilities. In fact, when I was in horticulture school,
<v Speaker 2>we did an experiment of propagating ferns okay in a terrarium.
<v Speaker 2>So you had to sterilize the growing media, and then
<v Speaker 2>you took the ferns you know, with spores on the
<v Speaker 2>leaf surface, and you just shook them over it and
<v Speaker 2>you capped it. And that really became a cell sustaining
<v Speaker 2>ecosystem because as the ferns grew, they just kept sporulating.
<v Speaker 2>And next thing you know, I have this like you know,
<v Speaker 2>mason jar sitting on its side and it's just completely
<v Speaker 2>full of like tiny baby ferns. Wow, people loved it.
<v Speaker 2>I had it on my desk at my old job
<v Speaker 2>and everybody asked, Spot, what is that? That is so cool?
<v Speaker 2>How can I do that like that? So there's so
<v Speaker 2>many opportunities in so many different ways to think about it.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, if you browse used bookstores or go to
<v Speaker 2>estate sales. If you find any seventies houseplant book, you
<v Speaker 2>are going to get so much terrarium inspiration. I mean
<v Speaker 2>it was like a way of life back then. Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 2>And people are into them now, like people do like
<v Speaker 2>them and people talk about them on you know, Instagram
<v Speaker 2>and so forth. But it's nothing like it was in
<v Speaker 2>the seventies for.
<v Speaker 1>Our listeners and viewers. You know, I mentioned fittonia, ferns, moss, peppermia,
<v Speaker 1>creeping fig But would you say ferns were your primary
<v Speaker 1>go to plant for your terrarium?
<v Speaker 2>You you know, you really, I don't want to say
<v Speaker 2>you can't, but it's very difficult to try to grow
<v Speaker 2>ferns outside of that high humidity environment. Either they are
<v Speaker 2>going to do bad and or they're going to be
<v Speaker 2>shedding leaves all over everywhere and making the biggest clean
<v Speaker 2>up chour for you. So better to just put um
<v Speaker 2>in a terrarium. And it's a self sustaining situation because
<v Speaker 2>the foliage drops, decomposes, you don't have to worry about it.
<v Speaker 2>So that's just a tiny taste of what's possible with terrariums.
<v Speaker 2>I hope if you're inspired, you will do a deeper
<v Speaker 2>dive and hey, maybe give it a whirl right now
<v Speaker 2>it's cold. What better thing to do than to spend
<v Speaker 2>an afternoon creating a terrarium with your vestie.
<v Speaker 1>And gardening humor is ideal because we're among friends.
<v Speaker 2>Right exactly. So thank you so much, thank you, thank
<v Speaker 2>you so much, Adriana, and thanks so much to all
<v Speaker 2>of you. We hope you have a wonderful and warm
<v Speaker 2>week ahead.

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