2024-12-30- KSR - Hour 2

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Speaker 1: What I'm back. I remember two Kentucky Sports Radio A five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. The text machine is seven seven two seven seven four five two five four. We are back at it here on Kentucky Sports Radio. It is the thirtieth getting ready for New Year's Eve. Kentucky plays tomorrow against Brown. Brown is maybe the best team from the IVY League. Played Kansas just a little bit earlier a few days ago. It was competitive for a little while, but then Kansas ended up winning, I think by thirty or something like that. So uh I thenk Kentucky plays Florida Saturday, huge first start to the SEC season. Before we get to I have, I want you to choose Drew between three stories. But before we do that, couple updates on the UK football roster brought Vander griff Is retiring from football. I think I said a couple month and a half ago that I thought this would happen. You know, he didn't put out a statement by it, but I think beyond that he was moving on with his life. But from what I've heard, you know, maybe wasn't totally in love with continuing to play football. But then also that injury in Tennessee kind of freaked him out. If you remember he got he was basically dazed and had to walk off the field, and I think, you know, kind of had a thought of is this worth it to feel like I feel right now, and decided not to keep playing football. You don't see that a lot. You see it some in the NFL, you don't see it a lot in college. But were you at all surprised by the news.

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Speaker 2: I was a little surprised. You got a guy. There was a five star quarterback. His dad was a very successful high school coach in Georgia. He's been around football his whole life, still had a year to go. It just shows you how bad he's feeling. And to make that decision as a college kid that still had a year left where I'm sure he could go out and make more money, find a spot somewhere. Even though it didn't go well Kentucky, I just I really feel it bad for that had to end that way. And I hope it's nothing sour towards UK letting him down, because that offensive line and that offense did let him down. Nothing was the way anyone wanted it to be a year ago. And I just hate that his career ended that way. It was cool for him to come here for a year. I didn't really get to know him, but I hate I hate that it goes out like that.

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Speaker 3: Same I was kind of surprised, but I hate that ended this way. And he was beat up and banged up pretty much most of the entire season. Can't believe he was even able to play a couple of games after that Tennessee game because he was that was a serious injury, and with all the CT issues now going on with football, I can see why maybe once to take a step back.

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Speaker 1: I had somebody tell me that the concussion he got after the Tennessee game was a lot more serious than people realized. That.

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Speaker 4: There was like a real freak out moment by him through it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, I've never had a concussion like that, but when you have brain things, it can freak you out.

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Speaker 4: Like it's not a it's not an easy thing to describe.

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Speaker 1: And you know, people who have concussions say every one of them affects people differently, and it may just not have been what he wanted to do. I would say this to fans. I mean, you know, I think it's easy it's easy to make jokes to sort of say, hey, you know Kentucky football.

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Speaker 4: That's what leads to blah blah.

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Speaker 1: But this is like kind of a serious thing, and I think people would be well not to kid about at least this, because I think this was a I think this was a tough thing for the kid, and you know, when I started hearing it, I think there was a reason why he didn't want to make a big to do about it. Now, hardly Gilmore ends up transferring. He was a receiver that we all thought would have a lot of prominence next year. You know, I want to be careful throwing kids under the bus, but let's just say I think there may have been some trouble there, that it may have been a had to go more than more than well, I just think that it may have been a had to go situation.

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Speaker 3: Well that at least maybe explained it, because I was shocked when I saw that that he was gonna you know, the fans reportal this late in the game, and especially a guy that was kind of penciled in is going to be a starter. Yeah, so now you're saying that maybe it makes a little more sense.

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Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I think maybe it was. Yeah, that's the best way I can put it. I had to go situation, nothing like crazy serious, but serious enough that needed to find another place.

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Speaker 2: Still a tough loss for that offense whatever is going on internally though, I mean that's a piece was high on everyone's whistless to come back. He only had about six catches last year, but people got to know it. Kid was seventeen years old. He's supposed to be a senior in high school. He had some huge years in South Florida and reclassified in a very talent rich area where he put up huge numbers. He was going to be a big piece, could have even been the number one option next year in the passing game. And to lose him on the final day, that's a big hit to the roster.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I hate the fact that I lose my punt that I always would like to make.

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Speaker 4: You know, he hardly whatever. I got way too much joy.

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Speaker 1: I felt like there was a lot of areas for me to explore that pun, and now it's gone forever.

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Speaker 2: You hardly got to make it.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: See, that's the kind of stuff we could have done.

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Speaker 1: We could have made people roll their eyes for the next two years, Drew, and now we don't get to do it.

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Speaker 2: That's the biggest loss in all Maybe I wonder if he even considered that when he went to the portal.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, which one of these three? I'm gonna let you all play pick the next story we talk about. All right, I'm gonna give you three choices. Number one, cal Perry and Oakland play tonight. Number two Leonard Hamilton has been sued by six of his former players, and number three Koala Bears and Chlamydia.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I did wow? Which one we could turn there? I didn't know we were taking. Well in that case, I have a vote. I think we go and get number three out of the way.

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Speaker 4: You want to know about the Koalis.

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Speaker 2: I can't give one hundred percent to my CALIPERI discussion with that mystery in the back of my mind because I don't know what that is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what about you, Ryan.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt what I'm picking. I'm picking the Kuala Bears. It wasn't even a consideration.

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Speaker 1: Rick, I like, when you get involved, would you rather hear about uk or excuse me, cal Perry and Oakland, would you rather hear about FSU suing or would you rather hear about the Koala bears and the chlamydia? Well, I'm with Ryan and Drew, so I just learned this, uh yesterday. See a lot of you all follow American news sources. You're missing where the real news is, which is on the BBC. The BBC gives you world news. And think about how big the world is. There's a lot more stuff going on than what's just going on in the United States.

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Speaker 4: And here's what I didn't know. Do you like Koala bears?

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Speaker 2: Who doesn't?

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Speaker 3: Everybody likes a cute little Kuala bears?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what you like? You're a little girl. I don't want to say this story in front of you now. I feel bad. How old are you, London eight?

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Speaker 4: I really don't want to tell you about the chlamydia and the.

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Speaker 2: Court plays Oakland.

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Speaker 4: You know what?

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Speaker 1: The real world's gonna hit you, London, and it's hitting Koala bears right now. So Koala bears are in Australia. They're cute, they're cuddly, although I think they also can kill you. But they're they're they're they're like this nice thing when you think of Australia, you think of koala bears, but they're an endangered species. You might have known that there aren't there aren't a lot of them. Well, scientists are worried that by next year they might be gone, like extinct across the board because of an outbreak of chlamydia. Chlamydia has taken over the koala world. And again I don't want to go. Don't give me that look, London, I'm sorry. I didn't do it, like I didn't give them chlamydia. They just have it and I'm sorry about that.

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Speaker 4: But but they.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, it's like the flu just somewhere Australia and in the Australian media is all and unfortunately it's not only killing them, it's also making them to where they can't have other koalas. And they are very concerned. They said if this continues that by twenty thirty there might not be any qualas and they're trying to figure out what to do. They cannot stop the spread of chlamydia with koalas in Australia. Does that make you sad? It makes me very sad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, because I'm saying here thinking, how are you even gonna try to treat that? You can't give them all a pill coming in the doctors also give them all pill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not gonna come in the doctor's office. Probably they wouldn't. I don't think they would even know the concept of what a doctor is.

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Speaker 2: They're not coming to the ved to get a checked out out.

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Speaker 1: They don't they And plus their health insurance isn't good. It's not you know, it's socialist care there. They're not able to get the latest treatment. Do you see? This is the kind of story I didn't need. It's not even in American news right like, it's on the front page of the BBC right now, front page. But have you heard one thing about it?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm thinking about our friend Max here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when we were.

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Speaker 2: In one of those random cities, he and I got drinks at a Christmas bar and it came with two little stuff qualas. I took mine home. It's sitting on my desk as a reminder of our trip. And now you're telling me that little thing could have some Australian flu on it and it could be the end of qualas forever.

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Speaker 1: Yes, here's the headline, chlamydia could make Koalas extinct. Scientists race to make a vaccine to save them in time.

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Speaker 3: How they're gonna deliver the vaccine, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You can't. I mean, well, they can.

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Speaker 3: Put it in their food, put food down.

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Speaker 1: No, you just hit it. You just take the quality.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna get all the qualas.

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Speaker 4: You could like use a dart to put them asleep.

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Speaker 1: Use a dark I mean not a throat like shoot at dart. When you act like this is crazy. You don't put them asleep and then you inject them with the vaccine and then you get away.

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Speaker 2: So we need like a robin hood going all over Australia shooting this vaccines.

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Speaker 1: And tigers and like they'll do it with koalas if they have to get the chlymytee out. Number one.

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Speaker 2: We need to calm down, maybe separate, spend some time alone, absolutely read a book. Gotta get out in front of it. That is crazy though.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's this, here's the keyword. Chlamydia has shot up tremendously exponentially in the Kuala community. Estimates vary, but as few as fifty thousand of the animals are left, and now they now think forty five to forty eight thousand may be infected.

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Speaker 3: See that's what I'm saying. That's a lot. I mean they gonna get the vaccine to forty five thousand Koala.

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Speaker 1: Bears carefully herd immunity, right, just a couple of them, that's right, wear a mask A five nine, two, eight zero, twenty two to eighty seven. One person writes Matt who will be Kentucky's second half of the season most improved player on the basketball team? So not best. Who's gonna be most improved here in the second half of the season.

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Speaker 3: I'll go first. I'm I think it's Andrew Carr. I think he's had a couple of good games, but really overall has not played the way I think we all thought he was going to. So I'm looking for a big sec run from Andrew Carr.

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Speaker 2: I like that pick. He's another one. Even though he shot at poorly in New York, I would like to see him shoot more threes. Sometimes when he's open, he hesitates a little bit. He bricked a few of these.

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Speaker 1: That's your pick as well.

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Speaker 2: No, I like Ron's pick, though it's hard to put him his most improved. But I think there's another gear in Jackson Robinson. So I'll put him in this category. That's you know, always been pretty solid and consistent. I don't know that he has a lot of improving to do, Butler's been great. I think Robinson might have another gear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there is an extra gear and I think there has to be an extra gear for Jackson Robinson. Like, I think he's been He's been good, right, but has he been You know what's interesting about this Kentucky team. Do we have any guy that would be top three team All SEC? Yet? Probably not.

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Speaker 2: Butler will earn some recognition maybe Butler, oh way, if he continues.

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Speaker 1: But Jackson Robinson's gotta be an All SEC contender, maybe not first team, but if he's not an All SEC second or third team contender, we're not gonna be good enough to do anything. So that, to me is what I'm wanting to see, is that he has got to he's got to be a little better. We saw it against Gonzaga, right, he was really really good against Gonzaga. We got to see that Jackson Robinson ryan more consistently.

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Speaker 3: And I think we we we said that after Kazaga game, like he moved to point guard and got the Bonnie's hand and like almost a light bulb went off he started. He just we just saw him be more aggressive offensively. He has to do that. He has to become more aggressive offensively.

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Speaker 2: And just this is statistically his three point percentage is way down than it was from a year ago. He can shoot the ball better than he has so far. His points are down really across the board. I think his stats compared to coming off the bench a year ago or down, whereas minutes are up at Kentucky and his rolls bigger.

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Speaker 4: Or Twitter Club Blue Nil.

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Speaker 1: Just hit the link and register and you could win tickets to UK Florida. That's a pretty good deal.

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Speaker 3: There'll be a hot ticket to get. I think by the time we tip that game off, that's gonna be a hard ticket to get.

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Speaker 4: You think, even with an eleven am start.

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Speaker 3: Just because it's first SEC game in Florida's they're still all think still undefeated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna be and they're gonna be undefeated. Niggain.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the SEC's cooled off just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Old. Miss lost by like fifteen to Memphis, which is a little bit of a surprise. I think Missouri's lost a game, Texas has lost a game. But still, I mean they go in with one of the best, maybe the best record for a conference going into conference play ever, but maybe cooled off just a little bit in the last week or two of the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but just look at Kentucky's schedule. I means starting conference play, which will be the toughest it's probably ever been. You're starting that game at home on a Saturday against Florida, which is ranked sixth or seventh in the country. You got two top ten teams to kick it off. And it's almost here in front of us. So the record might not be what we used to seeing, but I'm looking forward to it only time.

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Speaker 4: By the way, these two teams play all year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're gonna play them in that first game, you will not play them again, and depending on what happens, that could be a tie breaker. Yeah, later in the year, coming down to this very very first game.

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Speaker 2: Can I give a tweet of the day before the break?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Since we lose our hardly gilmore pun, I have to compliment a pun from the internet. Okay, it says koala, do have insurance, but it barely covers anything.

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Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take it. I mean I on Twitter x whatever we call ultim like that. The tweety of the day. Eight I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. Rick, I had somebody tell me they've called four times and you haven't answered. Are you looking at the phone lines? Yes? I am very quiet. What would you say back to this person?

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Speaker 3: I answer, everything comes through here, all right?

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Speaker 4: So Rick says, eat it.

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Speaker 1: Person on the phone, he would have answered, We'll take a break right back. Let's scare this on welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio eight. I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven text machine seven seven two seven seven four five two five four h one person on the text machine rights these kualas, they'll be able to get through it, and they can get through it together. That's right, Andy. I remember we used to say that that was one of those one of those things that'll be something we'll tell our kids one day. Yeah, we used to all sit around at five o'clock and watch the governor talk. People will say that that'll sound like something from like the nineteen twenties when when we stopped what we were doing, and we all stuff what we were doing, and we got around the old radio and listened to Andy Basher talk and tells how many people had died, Like that will sound like something from the you know, plague in the fifteen hundred.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the entire state stop what you were doing and listen to Andy talk about who just passed away.

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Speaker 1: And every state had their own guy doing yeah, like it was like fifty different states of such conversation.

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Speaker 2: And in our state. The interpreter of Virginia was more more famous.

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Speaker 3: She was, she got very famous.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you? Can I ask you a question. What's your name, Quinton? Where are you from Lawrenceburg? And and who's this with you? Quinton? This is Julie. You brought her here right like she doesn't listen to the show, right, I can you know, I can tell I can. I can like see these things so perfectly because Quinton, like you're looking and you look happy, and she's staring off into the distance like my boyfriend owes me for this. We're going to go to We're going to bed back and beyond and living when this is over, and he's just gonna have to do it, like I can. I can see it. So just so you know, Quentin, well, thank you very much for coming. I appreciate it because you know, I can, I can see that. It's one of those things you see a lot at this show, having Cole Bearder in the show. That's right, I have a little bit of that's good. Leonard Hamilton has been sued by six of his players, including Cameron Fletcher, for offering them two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to come and play in Nil and they are and they never got the money.

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Speaker 2: It's very ugly too. I read the story. He kept assuring them it's coming from his business partners. They continue to play, but it got so bad that before they played Duke, they walked out on practice and threatened to not play the game. He talked to him into showing up for the game. But that's that's how bad it got at Florist State and none of those guys are there, and now it's head to course.

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Speaker 1: All of them laughed. By the way, this happens all lot more than people know.

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Speaker 4: This is happening all over the country.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's happened to Kentucky, but I do think there have been times that like payments were due and it was the last minute trying to find somebody to do it. You know, this is part of a world where you don't you know, this is why we gotta have Congress pass something, because they got to have it to where there's written contracts. I mean there was this year where now written contracts are legal, but the NCAA had a situation where written contracts were not even legal. You couldn't even have a written contract, which just led to the And I think this happened in a ton of places. Ryan, It's just this is now leading to a lawsuit.

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Speaker 3: So do the players You think they have a good you know, it's just nothing in writing, just word of mouth, and they have proof.

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Speaker 1: That Leonard Hamilton and they apparently they say there are text messages. If they have proof that Leonard Hamilton said I will get you this money if you come, then yes, I think they would have. You know, as you know, if you take my contracts class at Georgetown School, you need offer acceptance, you know, in consideration, they would have all those I think they would get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it wasn't. It was really affecting the kids beyond basketball. I was reading like they couldn't pay rent, you know, at the end of the season. You're coming up when their taxes were due, and they're telling Leonard Hamilton, like, we owe people money and you owe it to us to give it to them, and you're really hanging us out to dry here.

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Speaker 1: And the story was really clear of the problem because Leonard Hamilton promised this money before he raised it, and then the team started out not very good.

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Speaker 4: They were like five and five, and.

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Speaker 1: He went to these boosters and said, give me some money to pay these dudes that are five and five, and the boosters are like I'm not paying this team stinks. We're five and five, So like it is one of those things that you know, he wrote a check. What's the phrase, his his something wrote a check. Here, be careful. I'm sorry that his his brain couldn't pay. And that's what ended up happening.

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Speaker 3: You make me wonder, Yeah, who his business partners were. They've promised this money.

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Speaker 1: And they don't have them. These coaches promise them without raising it and then just assume they'll raise it. That's what happened, yeap.

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Speaker 4: That happens at every single school.

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Speaker 2: And it was two hundred fifty thousand to six players. That's one point for you Gonna go find one point five million on the fly for a team that's five and four.

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Speaker 4: Year, five and five, that's gonna be hard to do. Who's up next?

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Speaker 1: David is up next? David? Go ahead, David.

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Speaker 5: Hey Man, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 4: Happy new Year to you, David.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I just want to say, even though I'm a little bit concerned about the team, I'm I'm still I'm still not worried about them. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: But that's okay. You're worried about the team, but you're not worried about him. That doesn't make sense, but I'll take it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what I mean is, I'm I really do think that those shocks will go in eventually. That's that's why I believe.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hope. I mean, they went in for the first half of the year the threes, they didn't go in for the second half of the year. You just just got to hope our team is more like the first half than they were the second half.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm uh and I've been looking back to we had a lot of memorable New Year New game from George to Tubby's to Tubby's on a Jersey ceremony.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like the Louisville games. And I appreciate the call, David. We we played Louisville on New Year's Eve a few times. The Tubby game was was on New Year's Eve, but it was on a Saturday, so that was kind of more normal. It's just rare to see a Tuesday two o'clock game.

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Speaker 2: Should I dress up, don't need to wear my tucks, my formal clothes.

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Speaker 1: It'll be done by It'll be done in time. I'm I'm I'm leaving after the game. I'm going to see the hurricanes that night in Columbus. A little New Year's Eve. Hi, so I have a better pun than the one you got.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: This one this is from not that guy seventeen seventy six. Chlamydia doesn't meet the kualifications for insurance covering. Very good.

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Speaker 2: That's coach tweet of today.

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Speaker 1: That's that one's better. I'm just sorry it is, say five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. We'll take a break. We're here chaos, maarn grill.

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Speaker 4: Let's Kentucky Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Tukey Sports Radio eight five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. Text machine is seven seven two seven seventy four five two five four.

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Speaker 4: We got all the crew here getting ready for.

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Speaker 1: A big couple days of sports with the playoff in the Kentucky Brown Game. Now tomorrow games at two o'clock. Here's the way it'll go. This rest we will be here at ten. You're welcome to come in and watch it. The restaurant will still open at eleven.

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Speaker 4: Pre game.

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Speaker 1: All that you can come do, you know, do your thing with the pre game. Then we will actually our morning show becomes the pregame show, so we will actually go from ten to twelve thirty tomorrow instead of ten to twelve, and then the game stuff will come on right after that.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to it, Gonna turn the page on another year and hopefully get a good, convincing win before the schedule gets very hard. Even though Brown's a good team. Before Kansas they had won six in a row. It's their best start in twenty years. I'm hoping we'll get one last good fun game. We'd have to sweat out and rep art thefore. It gets kind kind of difficult moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so come on out and see us. We'll be We will be here until you know, from ten, but remember like it won't we won't actually physically open until eleven, but you'll be welcome to come in here and hear us until we start if you get here early enough.

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Speaker 4: Our Draft Kings.

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Speaker 1: Let's do our picks.

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Speaker 4: Go to DraftKings dot com.

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Speaker 1: I've had a pretty terrible few weeks for a few days here, so I need to turn it around. Go to DraftKings. Use a promo cod KSR bet five, get one fifty. Let's do the playoff games. Are you ready? Let's do it. Penn State Boise State is tomorrow night. Penn State's an eleven point favorite. This is technically the Fiesta Bowl. Let's have a party. What do you got I'm gonna go Pinch State.

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Speaker 3: I just think that even though their fan base wasn't as excited for their home game last week, I still think Penn State's a better team.

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Speaker 2: I'm going upset. I just really hate James Franklin love when he loses these games. So I'll take.

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Speaker 1: Bois Boise, by the way, he's gonna have a much bigger crowd. The tickets for this game are actually kind of expensive because they expect so many Boise fans to make the trip. I mean, if you're a Boisse fan, this is probably the biggest game you've had since the last time you played in the Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma that one year. Uh.

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Speaker 2: So, they're wearing the they've I think they have two or three big Fiesta Bowl wins. They're wearing the same jerseys they warn all the other Maybe the running back will prepare.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Bence State wins the game, but Boise uh covers the amount. Let's go to the next with Texas and Arizona. State in the peach b Old, Texas is a thirteen point favorite.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of points. I probably will take Texas, but Arizona may cover well, So pick one. I'm gonna go Texas Texas.

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Speaker 2: Arizona State covers the spread but loses.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna say. I think this. I like this one a lot. I like Arizona State covering Texas. Texas has struggled sometimes to score the points they need. I'm gonna take Arizona State. They put up points against everybody the Rose Bowl. This is a pretty good Rose Bowl because it's traditional opponents in this Ohio.

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Speaker 4: State and Oregon.

00:25:33
Speaker 1: As of right now, Oregon Ohio State's a two and a half point favorite through I love Oregon in this. Don't you from.

00:25:39
Speaker 2: Going to Ohio State?

00:25:40
Speaker 1: Oh wow?

00:25:41
Speaker 2: I just I don't think Oregon can completely run the table. I'm They've got to slip up somewhere. These teams have already played. I'll take the Buckets.

00:25:49
Speaker 3: I'm going buck Geys. Also, they showed me something in their first round game. I thought they might come out a little flat after losing to Michigan, but they came out a little chip on their shoulders.

00:25:56
Speaker 1: So a shame. How wrong you guys have to be on this one Oregon. They're I ain't out on the West coast. That's where all those people live. Oregon. Stress time I checked is right next to Los Angeles.

00:26:06
Speaker 2: Last time you checked was just a few weeks ago.

00:26:08
Speaker 1: I know, and I was there. I believe it's still there unless something's happened since then. So giving me organ.

00:26:14
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the karaoke bar and Pendleton though that woman with the oxygen, she was probably still in there drinking whisky. I just don't know if any ready.

00:26:21
Speaker 1: All right. Finally, at night, the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans, the Catholics will go down there, try to stay as sober as possible to play against Georgia. Georgia is a one and a half point favorite.

00:26:34
Speaker 2: Notre Dame wins. Carson Beck's out. I think that's a difference maker.

00:26:38
Speaker 1: You don't like the what's his other guy's name?

00:26:39
Speaker 2: Rocco Roco media eight coming in at quarterback.

00:26:43
Speaker 1: What's his name? He's got some kind of crazy game.

00:26:45
Speaker 2: It's it's like, uh God, I just watched him.

00:26:49
Speaker 3: I just went blank.

00:26:51
Speaker 2: Gunner gunner stocked, gunner stocked.

00:26:53
Speaker 1: Here we go. That's same as Rocco. Basically, I'm taking Georgia.

00:26:58
Speaker 2: You still got you got notre dame, another name, Georgia.

00:27:01
Speaker 1: I like Gunner in Rocco.

00:27:02
Speaker 3: I'm still going with Georgia. Yeah, even though the backup quarterback Gunner to the to the to the final.

00:27:08
Speaker 1: Yes, Gunner Rocco. You know all gonna go help who's up next? Is up there? Roy? Go ahead? Roy?

00:27:20
Speaker 7: Hey, good morning, guys, Good morning, Good morning, guys.

00:27:25
Speaker 1: Still good morning. Go ahead.

00:27:26
Speaker 7: See if y'all have the same observation. Yeah, thank you. Uh, I will see if you have the same observation. Now Dad. During the Mark Stutes era, you know, I'm a realist. You know, year after year, we're not gonna compete for an SEC championship. But in the games that we've been competitive in, it seems like we have these undisciplined mistakes, like in the Florida game where we didn't cover the guy on the play, and we always have like a rough in the passer or it just seemed like it's just undisciplined penalties and things like that that keeps us from getting over the top of the heel as a you know, as a program, it just seems like it just we are just jin but one penalty or sell. They play four or five games a season, and that's just an observation I've had.

00:28:13
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, it's certainly been true the last it's certainly been true the last couple of years.

00:28:17
Speaker 4: I appreciate the call.

00:28:18
Speaker 1: Discipline has been a major problem with the program, less off the field, but actually more on the field. They've just constantly had terrible penalties, false starts, holds in the worst time, and then the worst is the sort of you know, dead ball personal pals. We've had a ton of them. I think there's there's no doubt that's been an issue for the last few years. Yep.

00:28:45
Speaker 2: It seems to happen in these games against uh, you know, Vandy SAKA games. You go in one to win and then early on you see something stupid. I don't think they track this stat but Kentucky had to have led the league and smacking players in the back of the head this season with a lot of the time is in retaliation the other team set them up, I think in Texas with Harriston some others. But how many times do we get flagged for punching back at someone you just got to know better in those spots.

00:29:12
Speaker 3: And you know, I kept thinking over the years, as we'll get cleaned up, straightened out.

00:29:16
Speaker 1: It just hasn't been.

00:29:18
Speaker 3: It is like the color set of continuing issues.

00:29:20
Speaker 1: It has been. There has been a cultural and discipline issue with the football program for two or three years. I think they have finally accepted it probably took them half a year to a year too long to accept it, but they did, you know they I think a lot of the major participants in it are gone, but at the same time, the people that allowed it to happen are still there, and so they're gonna have to have a change of attitude in order for it to stop. And I think anybody that tries to deny that is just is just deluding themselves. That has been an issue for at least the last two years as well.

00:29:57
Speaker 2: I think they have such a difficult offseason when it comes to discipline. I mean, you don't just go hit a button on the wall, where like, okay, I'm disciplined. Now, that's something that's over time. You have situations come up and then till you handle it, then the next one comes up. How you handle it. You don't just flip a switch and say, okay, we have discipline. Now that's something you have to get.

00:30:14
Speaker 1: And it's hard to sit there if like I, if Drew is my coach or my boss or my whatever, and he has allowed me to have certain behavior for a long time, just to all of a sudden switch it and say now you can't do it.

00:30:29
Speaker 4: Like that's a hard ending to pull off.

00:30:32
Speaker 1: It's all because I'm just gonna be like, you let me do this yesterday, and now I can't. I think that makes it very hard.

00:30:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if the players are in the wrong, if they've been doing it in norm of them, you tell them to stop, they're gonna be thinking, wait a minute, what's going on? You know, it's gonna just strain their relationship. I would think, Yeah, who's up next?

00:30:48
Speaker 1: Ohio boy? Is up there? Ohio boy? How are you doing well? Thinks? Uh? Just one question.

00:30:56
Speaker 8: It's been two hundred and sixty five days. This is John Cayler Perry left. When do you think will be the first KSR show that doesn't talk about him? I'll hang up and listen.

00:31:06
Speaker 4: First of all, hang on, stay on the phone just a second.

00:31:08
Speaker 1: What's your name again?

00:31:09
Speaker 4: Sir?

00:31:09
Speaker 8: Okay?

00:31:10
Speaker 1: Sure, Ohio boy.

00:31:12
Speaker 4: And and who are you a fan of.

00:31:15
Speaker 8: I'm Kentucky guy.

00:31:16
Speaker 6: I'm from Murray.

00:31:17
Speaker 1: No, I didn't ask you if you were a Kentucky guy. I said, who are you a fan of.

00:31:23
Speaker 8: Kentucky? I just said that.

00:31:24
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're a Kentucky fan. So you're clearly this is a call. You're trying to troll, am I correct? No, I'm not. I'm just now you are you are? I mean, it's not you're not having You're not hang on, you're not having a serious one.

00:31:38
Speaker 4: You're not having a serious question.

00:31:40
Speaker 1: No, you're not. Days it has and we've had many shows where his name hasn't come up. Yes, we have, yes, one that's not. Do you let me ask you a question. Do you listen to every show? Do you listen to every show? Yes?

00:31:56
Speaker 8: I'm usually a podcast listener, but.

00:31:58
Speaker 1: You listen to every So you're telling me if I can find multiple shows where we haven't said it, you'll be wrong. Yes, Okay, we'll be able to find that. As far as the Brett Bigger question, though, I am totally fine if we bring up cal every show. He is part of the story of this season, and I appreciate the call. He is part of the story of the season. He's a part of the story of the program. And a big reason people are so happy about Pope is because of what came before it. If it would had not, I think if if Cal had left here on the biggest of higes, it would.

00:32:34
Speaker 4: Have been harder for Pope.

00:32:36
Speaker 1: Part of the reason people have been so embraceive of Pope, embracing Pope is because of what had happened with Cal. So I don't apologize for when we talk about Cal. The other reality is it's like candy. People know they shouldn't eat it, but they like it. All you have to do is look, when we talk about Cal, it gets more response because people.

00:32:58
Speaker 4: Have emotional reaction to it. That's what people care about.

00:33:04
Speaker 1: So it's not on us, it's that it's it's it's Cal is like candy.

00:33:09
Speaker 4: People care, whether they should or not.

00:33:13
Speaker 2: And of all days to say, don't talk about Cal. I don't know if he knows what's on ESPN two at eight o'clock tonight, but Cal plays Oakland, which is a headline story. We would mention that anyway.

00:33:23
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's eleven and we hadn't talked about it, but you're actually thank you you brought it up, so let's talk about it. Cal Perry plays Oakland tonight. That that is highly ironic.

00:33:37
Speaker 2: Are we supposed to ignore that he's playing Oakland?

00:33:39
Speaker 1: I mean that is highly ironic. They literally play tonight. That was the best festo of idiocy I've ever seen. Where they do play tonight.

00:33:49
Speaker 2: Nationally televised, nationally televised.

00:33:51
Speaker 1: How do you feel about it? I are you rooting for Oakland?

00:33:55
Speaker 3: Yes, I am rooting for Oakland. I think Cal's crazy to even schedule this game.

00:34:00
Speaker 1: Do you think he did that?

00:34:01
Speaker 3: I don't know why he scheduled Oakland because knowing what just happened.

00:34:05
Speaker 1: But Cal, but what why would you do that?

00:34:08
Speaker 3: I think because he wants to like throw it in our face, like, look.

00:34:11
Speaker 1: That's not but that's not He wants to throw in our face that he lost to Oakland.

00:34:16
Speaker 2: That's not my face.

00:34:17
Speaker 3: He's gonna beat him and you know, pounding his chest.

00:34:20
Speaker 1: And if he's pounding his chest over beating Oakland, and he's more cook than I thought he was.

00:34:25
Speaker 2: They're a nineteen point favorite. Oakland's for it.

00:34:27
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, if he brags about beating Oakland, then he needs to go ahead and give it up.

00:34:33
Speaker 2: That's what I when this game was first announced, I thought, why would you even put yourself in that circumstance. If you lose, now that is hilarious. But if you if you win, you just have more people bringing up that you lost to them. Here ago, what year did we lose to Robert Morris? Was that twenty thirteen?

00:34:50
Speaker 1: So no, that was we lost the year before cal right or no, no, you're right, we lost.

00:34:56
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you look at a Notre Dame and Billy was before col.

00:35:00
Speaker 1: We lost to Robert Morris? Would you have wanted to see us that next.

00:35:03
Speaker 2: Year play Robert Moore? Actually didn't we they did? They did, Maybe this is a cat.

00:35:07
Speaker 1: They didn't the next year though they did. Again they did. They did a few years like okay, I didn't mind it a few years later actually, but would you have wanted to play Robert.

00:35:16
Speaker 4: Morris the next year?

00:35:18
Speaker 1: Then beat them?

00:35:20
Speaker 2: But the difference, But the difference that is you're giving your fans all right, we're gonna bring him in a rupt This isn't even the same school like he just it's a hymn versus Oakland's not.

00:35:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I thought that.

00:35:31
Speaker 1: But honestly, if you bring him in the next year and beat him, you're kind of like Indiana celebrating the buzzer beater with Watford. You're celebrating the game that didn't matter. We lost in the game that mattered. So if Arkansas beats them by thirty to night, they beat them, but Cal, you lost when it mattered. This game doesn't.

00:35:50
Speaker 2: Matter, and Oakland's rosters completely different. These Oakland guys aren't gonna know anything about Kentucky and cow All those guys are gone. They're they're not good, they're four.

00:35:58
Speaker 1: And nine s.

00:36:01
Speaker 2: If they were to win, I think it's unnecessary pressure booking this game.

00:36:05
Speaker 3: We would probably talk about it tomorrow on KSR if they win.

00:36:07
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll talk about it either way. I just I am amazed he scheduled this game. Yeah, I'm amazed.

00:36:14
Speaker 2: We're talking about what the caller just the way it was, like.

00:36:16
Speaker 3: Drew said, I think it was. That's just cal Cal just wants to prove to himself I can beat these guys, And I'm gonna.

00:36:21
Speaker 1: Do you think he has to prove to himself he can beat Oakland.

00:36:24
Speaker 2: I know what it is. Chin just logged back in and sees there's Oakland on this schedule. He's just now getting to the tape. He's gonna be ready for Golky tonight.

00:36:34
Speaker 1: I saw Golki by the way, he's averaging like ten a game in the Gili is he yeah.

00:36:38
Speaker 2: Goky should go to that game tonight. It's a court.

00:36:40
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00:37:24
Speaker 1: We did play Bobby Moe Robert Morris the next year, so he must have some kind of fetish he knows.

00:37:30
Speaker 4: Like we didn't play Saint Peter's, did we the next year?

00:37:34
Speaker 1: No?

00:37:34
Speaker 3: No, don't remember that one.

00:37:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is odd to want to play that again. Maybe he's got some internal thing where he's got to cleanse himself from the bad loss by by beating them the following.

00:37:44
Speaker 1: Do you think, I mean, do you think in our minds? Do you think they'll ever be a day that you'll hear the name Robert Morris, Saint Peter's or Oakland and not think about losing.

00:37:56
Speaker 2: No?

00:37:56
Speaker 3: No, no, if you're a Kentucky fan, I still feel the same thing about Gardner Webb.

00:38:02
Speaker 1: Yep, exactly, VM. What about you know there's a generation older than me, maybe you, well you're a little young for this too. Probably people sixty and over they feel still still feel that way about Middle Tennessee State. Yeah, because they lost to them in the tournament one of those years. In the seventies.

00:38:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, lost to Marquette was in in the eighties.

00:38:27
Speaker 1: I lost to Marquette a lot. But Mark Hatte, I.

00:38:30
Speaker 4: Don't consider like this, h. I mean those schools like to me.

00:38:36
Speaker 1: To me, Saint Peter's is not a college except for the fact that they beat us.

00:38:42
Speaker 3: I had never heard of them until we drew him in the tournament, right, Like I mean Saint Peter from the Bible. But like in terms of like Robert Morris, I know that someone from like the Revolutionary War, but I don't know what he does. Well, he died, sure, knew nothing about their basketball and he's not still here.

00:39:02
Speaker 4: But like, what was what was his role in our founding father?

00:39:06
Speaker 1: Oh?

00:39:06
Speaker 2: Well, where do you want to start? He had the hat, you know, the hat that's kind of boxy.

00:39:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, I'm sure one of our founding fathers. But what did he do well, he was a.

00:39:15
Speaker 2: Big part of the foundation. Well good, I don't know what he did.

00:39:19
Speaker 1: Uh.

00:39:20
Speaker 2: To your point about the word association, though I grew up most of my life going to Evansville, Indiana, when I hear Evansville now, I oddly think of the basketball, not twenty years of memories of the actual city of the affair.

00:39:33
Speaker 1: Though, I'm like that about a lot of colleges. I mean, when I think of Weaber State, I think of Harold the Show, Arsenal and beating North Carolina. When I think of Valparaiso as a place, I mean, everybody's gonna think of Bryce Drew uh in that. When I think of like Cleveland State, I think of them beating Indiana in the tournament. Yeah. I think there's some colleges that that's how you stay with him forever.

00:39:58
Speaker 3: I would say, I have mercer. I think I'm their big Yeah.

00:40:02
Speaker 4: That's right in the tournament. So who's up next?

00:40:04
Speaker 1: Leahy the duke at the tournament as well? Go ahead? John is up next, John, Go ahead John.

00:40:13
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, thanks Matt, Drew, Ryan and all take my call. I'll get off speaker phone. So I was kind of mismerized by the last call talking about the whole previous coach and our new coach. I think that's just part for the course for you guys. I think he has to be talked about. But my point for Colin was this. Ryan was talking about how hard the tickets will be to get for the Florida game coming up and I have a Christmas story real quick.

00:40:47
Speaker 1: Well I had like twenty seconds, So you go, because we're about to end the show, but go ahead.

00:40:52
Speaker 6: I got you. So I got My wife knows I love watches, so instead of getting me a watch, he had a watch box with tickets to the Florida UK game for Saturday.

00:41:01
Speaker 1: Well that's awesome. What's a heck of a gift. I appreciate the call. It is going to be Saturday for the Florida game is going to be great, and it needs to be because I actually think that I was looking at the schedule a couple of days ago. I think it is one of the two or three most important games on the schedule, and it happens to start us off right off the bat. Tomorrow. We are here at ten, Ryan will go till twelve thirty. The game against Brown is at two, almost ready for the new year.

00:41:30
Speaker 3: The Brown Bears coming in to upper ended them.

00:41:32
Speaker 1: Is that their name?

00:41:33
Speaker 2: The Brown Bears?

00:41:34
Speaker 4: To Brown Bears, I had no idea.

00:41:36
Speaker 1: Thank you all very much for being here, Thank you for being here London, and thanks for dragging her as well. I know she didn't she didn't love it. We'll take it. We'll see you later. This has mid KSR