Post-Draft Questions for EVERY AFC Team
Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Jourdan Rodrigue and Patrick Claybon to take a look at the state of the AFC now that the dust has settled on the NFL Draft. The crew starts with a breakdown of the AFC North followed by the AFC West, AFC South and AFC East.
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2026-04-29
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00:00:04 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we have successfully waited to sign all our players past the deadline for the compensatory pick formula. That was way too many words. But it's complicated. NFL rules are complicated, and this show is going to be complicated. I'm here in the Chris Westling podcast studio with Jordan Rodriege and Patrick Claybond, and it's complicated because we're hitting every single team in the AFC and recapping their draft and what it all means. 00:00:29 Speaker 2: I already got that complicated. 00:00:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only complicated if we forget somebody. 00:00:34 Speaker 1: We won't forget everyone. We're gonna hit every who is the team we forgot the Saint we will not also safe the tea he forgot. This is going to be all about the AFC. And yeah, I've said a lot already about the draft we did. We did Day one, Day two, we did some winners and losers. But this is more how these players, now that we've seen the depth charts, fit into the context of the team, what it all means. And I haven't heard a lot of your two thoughts, Patrick, how are you feeling, by the way after your knee surgery? 00:01:06 Speaker 4: And now, oh, we're back. I can't believe I put it off for as long as I did. Okay, and for everyone, modern medicines come a long way. 00:01:12 Speaker 1: Watching on YouTube, we appreciate you, like go ahead and subscribe so that you can see Patrick's cool new red shirt. 00:01:20 Speaker 2: It's orange, but Greg. 00:01:22 Speaker 1: I'm colorblind. Let's start in the AFC. We're gonna put three minutes on the clock for each and every team. We're going to talk about their draft and maybe ask a question moving forward about this team. You're up with the Ravens. 00:01:38 Speaker 4: Patrick, Okay, I saw the scenario where there was a bane fall, and I'm thinking the whole time for months that this was going to be a possibility. 00:01:46 Speaker 3: But now you know Vega. 00:01:48 Speaker 4: Is there the best interior offensive lineman the draft? There is clearly a need. Now there's no project, no discussion about moving somebody that plays guard to tackle the You neglect it was in previous years to the extent that John Simpson is having to come back. 00:02:03 Speaker 3: Now you're drafting a guard in the first round. But you're not gonna ding somebody. 00:02:07 Speaker 4: Because improvement is about self evaluation, and when you solve a problem of your own creation, you're still solving a problem. Nice, I am the ted Hurst guy. I wish you know, I all love you know, to to Lane and everything he can do at wide. 00:02:24 Speaker 1: Receiver to Kobe Lane usc third round, Yeah. 00:02:26 Speaker 4: They get him a couple of picks before the Bucks get Ted Hurst, who I love. But you know, in terms of what they want at receiver because you saw it in Surrat as well as somebody who can make plays with the balls in the air, they get a couple of guys a couple of shots at the dartboard on that, and so if it could work out, I just think coming back the question a lot of it because you know with Declan Doyle, hey it's Lamar, you snap the ball to him, you block it up. 00:02:55 Speaker 3: They're going to score points. This defense. Does jesse mentor plus the return of Mattabek simply solve the issues for the Baltimore Ravens defense. 00:03:04 Speaker 1: Hmmm, he gets a big one. 00:03:06 Speaker 3: You know. 00:03:06 Speaker 1: They they take an edge in Zion Young in the second round, who had divergent opinions. Some people really liked him, some people think it's just more of just an edge setter. He's very much of which they needed a Ravens type. But the cut like can the combination of Mike Green and Zion Young really make up for you know, not getting Crosby. I know you have Hendrickson, but that's that's not a great spot over there. But you're right, they didn't add a ton. I think they left a lot of like questions moving forward, and I think they might be a team that is pretty active in this post compensatory pick Formula World signing guys because they don't really have a center and tight ends pretty thin after Mark Andrews, so those are two positions. 00:03:46 Speaker 5: I worry there was some conversation before the draft about magayone being able to move inside even further. I know we don't want to, like Offen switch from position to position, but there was some chatter pre draft about the potential that he could play centers. He has the football IQ certainly as the size and the ability, and is great on the ground. 00:04:06 Speaker 2: I think it's interesting. 00:04:07 Speaker 5: What I really liked that they did was that they didn't I know this sounds a little bit Galaxy brain, but that they didn't just say, Okay, jesse Mentor we're going to go full on at the players that you think you need to kind of make this scheme come to life now. They're probably going to sort that out as they go over the next couple of weeks and months and really understand who does fit and who doesn't with what he's got right now and what he's going to do in terms of his scheme. 00:04:31 Speaker 2: I like that they address the fact that they need. 00:04:33 Speaker 5: To maximize Lamar Jackson and his potential with offensive linemen and receivers, combinations of receivers, specifically giving jef to this offense and dimension. 00:04:44 Speaker 2: To this offense. 00:04:46 Speaker 1: I love that shout out at the end. Diego Pavia was going to be a tryout player. Vanderbilt quarterback has been signed officially to a three year contract. So congratulations. Oh that the honky means it's over. It's not him and you were Greg. 00:05:02 Speaker 2: Didn't get the hint or he yeah, he took it as an invitation. 00:05:06 Speaker 1: They could be an Djoko team, by the way, I'm thinking about teams wording. 00:05:10 Speaker 2: Oh, I'd like that. 00:05:11 Speaker 1: I am up with the Cincinnati Bengals. You know, you trade the tenth pick for Dexter Lawrence in a in a class without a lot of defensive tackles. That makes you better right away. Then they take some real size outliers. They drafted a bunch of skinny guys Cassius Howell, who who's a baller off the edge, And you think about their line now with Miles Murphy might not pick up the fifth year option with him. They bring in Jonathan Allen, you have boy Mafe. You hope Shamar Stewart develops. It's like a skinny group. They also took a tall, skinny cornerback in the third round to Carrio. Who am I think you have? Sacario Davis right to Cario Davis, Cao, great movie. Yeah, My question is did they do enough? It's very similar to your Ravens question did they do enough on defense? Because it is an entirely looking, different looking defense than it was a year ago. 00:06:04 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:06:04 Speaker 5: I'm looking a little bit more closely at what they decided to do post Dexter Lawrence acquisition, because what they clearly thought was, Okay, this player is an anchor for us, and we're going to build other pieces or other complimentary skill sets around him. And I think they really it seems it appears that they really did try to do that. Cash is Howl I think is a good fit, you know, kind of springing loose a little bit off of what Dexter Lawrence can do. And it's a great question because we don't know, we don't know what the fight and al Goldens are going to do right especially, I'm concerned still about inside linebacker. 00:06:36 Speaker 2: I'm concerned about, you know, safety. I just think we need to see that. 00:06:40 Speaker 5: They've gotten some size and speeds they can at least like lift the floor of what this defense. 00:06:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, they have questions that nickelback right now. It's a guy Jalen Davis probably who played a lot last year. Kyle Dugger was brought in with Jordan Battle at safety. Howel is a guy I really like, gives them a different vibe. But linebacker, to me, is a huge concern they have. They have to sign some some veteran will be signed that linebacker right now. It's Barrett Carter and Demetrius Knight. But they attacked it. We wanted them to attack the defense, and they attacked the hell out of it and more or less ignored the offense until some middle round offensive lineman. 00:07:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, you just have to, you know, have to reevaluate that that pick as Dexter Lawrence was taken with that particular pick, and it's a you know, in terms of what he does a deviation away from anybody else in the league. 00:07:29 Speaker 3: And so yeah, it's different. 00:07:32 Speaker 1: It so that has to be started, which is probably unlikely over Miles Murphy or samar Stewart. They would have four new starters on the defensive line with Mafey, Lawrence and Allen and uh. 00:07:42 Speaker 2: I think there's a chance that he starts. 00:07:44 Speaker 1: I think there's a chance that he's the best player of the group. I don't think they'll pick up that fifth year option on Miles Murphy. And for what it's worth, the Draftnicks all love Connor lou who is a fourth round center that that might have a chance to start. But they're basically saying, like Joe, you got this on offense and just kind of running back the same group it is. 00:08:04 Speaker 5: I mean, it's not like the worst theory in the world, as long factoring in as long as the defense does improve, you know, this this offense was was far from the problem. And yeah, the depth along the offensive line is always going. 00:08:16 Speaker 2: To be important. 00:08:21 Speaker 1: That the timers so quick. 00:08:22 Speaker 2: It just kind of like, I like this better than the buzzer to write with you. 00:08:26 Speaker 1: I asked Eric to get creative with a new solution. He did it. The Browns are up, Barry right up, Eric, good for you, man of the draft. 00:08:35 Speaker 5: Yeah, it seemed like the Browns could do no wrong. They read and navigated the draft well. Their picks made sense, and several including the receivers which I'll get to in a minute, are downright exciting to pair together and add again layers in dimension and like real cool play design opportunity to this offense. And they even got the camera angles correct in the draft room because Jimmy Haslin was not looming over the top of the head coach and the GM instead he stayed just out of frame. This is the second we don't know yet they have to play, but it could be the second consecutive really solid draft by the Browns in consecutive years. And if you can do that, you can really turn the trajectory of your franchise around. 00:09:15 Speaker 2: So that's my question. 00:09:17 Speaker 5: Have they done enough inclusive to we are not really sure yet at quarterback to potentially alter the course of this franchise right now? 00:09:25 Speaker 1: I think they have to. I think you have to have expectations. It's a year freaking seven of Andrew Berry. Like, yeah, Like I think it is okay to have expectations. You went from three wins to five wins. I mean, how many different like how long of rebuilds can you get? And if this is as good a classes as a lot of people think it is, and I think it's a good one. 00:09:45 Speaker 2: I think it's a great class. 00:09:46 Speaker 1: You got two fanos. By the way, his brother signed as an undrafted free agent tackle Spencer Fia. 00:09:53 Speaker 3: That's fun. 00:09:54 Speaker 1: I think it's okay to have expectations. The quarterback is a major concern obviously, but beyond that, like I think you want to see them be much more competitive in like win seven or eight games or something like that. I think it's okay to like expect more in this long of a rebuild. 00:10:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is as you you build and you grow off of the things that you've you've done previously. Last year's class was great, and you know too, I think maybe we're projecting a little bit, you know, just based on the sheer quantity of picks right and the quality of last year's draft. 00:10:27 Speaker 3: Well, it's like, oh they can they can duplicate that. 00:10:29 Speaker 1: In Concepcion was like my favorite player, so that's obviously going to be right. 00:10:32 Speaker 5: I like him in pairing with Denzel Boston too, because it to me, it's like I'm not looking at just one of those players in a vacuum. 00:10:40 Speaker 2: I'm looking at three players. 00:10:41 Speaker 5: The combination of Casey conceptsion, the combination of him with Denzel Boston and with Harold Fannin. Like, I think that is so fun for Todd Mounkin to kind of just really try to create with and try to set everything up. They're they're setting everything up to leave no doubt about the quarterback eventually when they have to make that decision, and you can go the. 00:11:02 Speaker 4: Easy Monkin to Zay Flowers to Casey conception on comp in terms of his utilization, and you can kind of picture like this. You know, it's it's hard to picture Raven's offense. Of course, you know the BIG's part of it, but you know, this is a twenty twenty four team lighting up the field. But they can be serviceable at the very least regardless of which second year quarterback or whoever it's gonna end up playing. 00:11:26 Speaker 1: And I like they went so heavy offense, Like Fano gets a lot of attention obviously is probably the left tackle, but they also took a third round developmental tackle. 00:11:33 Speaker 2: They finally drafted Linement. 00:11:35 Speaker 1: And then the guard, and so you add four guys in free agency and trades three more there double up at wide receiver. It's a k to be exciting, Kay to have expectations. Patrick, you're up with the Steelers. 00:11:47 Speaker 3: So the Steelers draft looked pretty good. 00:11:49 Speaker 4: The glaring aspect of it is you're on the phone with the players if you want to draft, and Howie Roseman is doing it again and winds up taking him, and so that clouds I think the overall vision of what was a pretty solid Steelers draft with that embarrassing moment. I think Jeremy Bernard is a solid player who can make plays. Now that the Steelers have had to trade for Michael Pittman, Junr and DK Metcalf and they draft Bernard. Addressing receiver reminded me of those days where it's like, oh, the Steelers know how to draft wide receivers. Well, now that the best one that they've drafted, that Antonio Brown is playing for the Dallas Cowboys, They're back to taking quality at that position. I think any Hatcher again in a great spot of need on the offensive line in the middle of what was a kind of a run on tackles can help things. But my question is if Mike McCarthy is an upgrade over the FedEx air shout out to the United States Postal Service, where does that upgrade come in terms? Well, I just think Greg, you know, in terms of providing a service. Okay, people the United States of America mentioned FedEx. I would like to mention what is. 00:12:53 Speaker 1: The McCarthy FedEx connection. 00:12:54 Speaker 2: No, no, it's keep up. It was Arthur Smith. 00:12:57 Speaker 3: Arthur Smith. So now Mike McCarthy is orchestrating his offense. 00:13:01 Speaker 4: Mirke McCarthy a child of the people of Pittsburgh, not the AI Mark McCarthy that the Tom posted, but not a you know, a child of nepotism. So if he's there, where does the upgrade come from in terms of of ofolfense that was already severely constricted towards Alana Scrimmage. And a bonus question, what's more likely week nine Will Howard or week nine Aaron Rodgers? 00:13:25 Speaker 1: Oh wow, well you let's put a bit in Rogers for a second. The upgrades wide receiver you mentioned Metcalf, Pittman, Bernard, Like none of those team guys were on the team, you know, eighteen months ago and only one of them was on it last year, So that's the upgrade. And yeah, the play calling, I think the attention to detail. Rogers. Some news came out Monday that the Steelers, at the deadline for this compensatory pick formula, gave him the very rare tender of rite of first refusal, which would indicate just in case, they have his exclusive rights to sign him if he's unsigned going into training camp, and that he would count for the compensatory pick formula and he would like sign this one year, fifteen million dollar offer, which you would only do that if you thought there's a chance that he would entertain playing with another team. So he's making us think about it. 00:14:15 Speaker 2: At this they literally put a pin in Aaron Rodgers. 00:14:18 Speaker 5: Yeah, like this is basically keeping him in place as long as they can under certain terms that you just described. 00:14:25 Speaker 2: It's interesting to me. 00:14:26 Speaker 5: They also picked up Drew Aller out of Penn State, so that they've got Will Howard and Drew Aller kind of having like a you know. 00:14:33 Speaker 2: A mid off for backup quarterback or potentially starter. 00:14:37 Speaker 5: That's where though, Patrick, to your question, the McCarthy question is is huge because he was known back before he kind of became you know, Mike McCarthy, the retre head coach kind of guy like as a quarterback developer. 00:14:50 Speaker 2: He has worked really well with quarterbacks over his history. So I'm excited to see this. 00:14:57 Speaker 1: I answered, this is now. I think it's still Rogers. He's not gonna fake me out. This is the question was Howard or Rodgers? Oh, Rogers, what about Aler? I mean, they just drafted a guy in the third round. I don't think Drew Awler's got it, but they just drafted a guy in the third round. Wasting just throwing picks out Willy Nilly. Well makes you wonder a little bit that they're a little worried about Rogers and McCarthy wanted a guy to play with that wasn't well Howard. Kind of interesting. I don't know about their draft. There were another possible in Joku team. I am up with the Broncos only one pick in the top one hundred of the draft. Of course, they went and got Jalen Wattle Tyler Onetam in the third who fits kind of their rotational defensive lineman. Guy Jonah Coleman is a running back we talked about at length on the show that I really liked coming into the draft as kind of Kyron Williams type could lead the team and carries, and so even the day three picks that the draft Knicks loved him for value. So good draft. Not a ton of you know picks at the top. The only thing is if you look at their all, you know, like they're twenty all twenty two on our lads, it's the exact same starting group except for Jalen Waddle, so you could. And there's some great teams I've noticed this year, especially a lot of continuity around the NFL. Right now, does that worry you a little bit? To be the team that's just we're bringing everyone back and not much is changing. Patrick's given me the crazy eyes. 00:16:24 Speaker 3: No, no, it doesn't work. The quarterback got hurt. They had to play Jarrett Stidham. 00:16:29 Speaker 4: Jarrett played arguably the worst game I've ever seen in the postseason SAMs Brian Hoyer and I may have to go back and watch those. 00:16:36 Speaker 3: Brian hoydle. 00:16:36 Speaker 1: The weather was tough. I mean, Drake May honestly wasn't that much better. 00:16:39 Speaker 3: The weather wasn't as tough as Jared. 00:16:41 Speaker 4: I say that that's crazy, but yeah, you add in a in a place where it can expand the offense, you get your quarterback back. What were the glaring holes with the Denver Broncos They. 00:16:54 Speaker 3: Needed to do that. 00:16:55 Speaker 1: I'm not not worried, but it's the theory of like when you win the Super Bowl and you just run it back. That almost never, But they didn't win the Super Bowl, right, So that's what I mean. It's the same logic that you always need to be changed in your team or else it gets a little who's the position that. 00:17:08 Speaker 2: They did change their team? 00:17:09 Speaker 5: They literally get the quarterback that they should have had the whole time back, and also improvement at receiver and a different type of player receiver too. I feel like to me, the reason I don't necessarily worry about the Denver Broncos here in sort of quote unquote running it back, is because of their offensive line. If that position is stable, it's a much better likelihood of making another push the way that they did if you have that position intact and stable. And conversely on the defensive line as well. They did miss Jonathan Franklin Myers, but also they clearly were okay with letting him walk and not extending him and that defense in general, keeping staff continuity. You know, I think that all of this, I just trust him. I just trust that the end. And it's interesting because they approached this draft similar to free agency. They didn't make moves, many moves in free agency till all of a sudden they made one major one right this draft here, they didn't make any major decisions in this draft, and certainly their picks didn't start until the third round. Similar kind of approach where they're like, we like the guys we have, we do still need to build depth for the future. 00:18:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, I in the end might like the answer to my own question is like, I'm not that worried. I do think it's. 00:18:17 Speaker 2: Okay, But at me in the first half, I'm not gonna lie. 00:18:19 Speaker 1: In general, I can see this with a lot of teams that hasn't always worked because the team you had the year before is in the same And I think Sean Payton was getting at that a little bit when talking about like we got a little lucky how many close wins we had, But you mentioned it. They've prepared well, for instance, for a guy like Jonathan Franklin Myers to leave a lot of depth everywhere on both lines, although their line stunk in the AFC Championship. To be fair, that was maybe their biggest concern. Jordan, Chiefs, you're up. 00:18:45 Speaker 5: The Chiefs went really defense focus, which I like they needed to because they needed to lean on one of the best cornerback identifiers and talent developers in the NFL in one Steve Spagnolo. These two corners, Mansur Delaine and Jayden Cannon, they have just spags wridden, like he must be beaming from ear to ear right now thinking about what he can do with these players. And I like the Chiefs draft overall because they traded up to get Manser Delaine, which you can debate the merits of trading up a trading back. It sounds like two teams were gonna potentially pick him if he fell to them, and he was the player that they id'd as the guy that they wanted to get after their secondary basically went to the La Rams last this past offseason. 00:19:26 Speaker 2: So I really like that. 00:19:27 Speaker 5: My big question about the Chiefs still, it's usually the question I have about the Chiefs is did they do enough at receiver? And then I look at the running backs that they drafted. Emmitt Johnson out of Nebraska and then they brought in ken Walker obviously in the off season, and to me, that speaks to potentially Andy Reid counting them in the passing game because of what we knew ken Walker can do with the ball in his hands. Emmitt Johnson similarly so was lotted through the pre draft process for his hands and his ability there. So I do think that that maybe he's counting that because otherwise they're still a little bit questionable or too thinner receiver. 00:20:00 Speaker 1: One thing you said before the draft, which is so dead on, which is the teams tell us how they think about their own team in the draft, and I think they the Chiefs told us that they're good at receiver and they're good on the offensive line, and a lot of people thought those are two positions they would address. I think we're sheee Rice learning that he's not going to face any more further punishment from the NFL inform that like that they can expect him week one. I think their pass rush guys that they drafted are going to be absolutely crucial to this season. Ar Mason Thomas early second round pick the stands for nothing, right, It's about as important an early second round pick because they just need juice. And Peter Woods, who's a late first round pick up defensive tackle. Again, they need juice, and those are two guys that they're hoping add a little juice to their defense. It's been about three years since they've had that a great draft when they had McDuffie. They could really use for this. 00:20:47 Speaker 3: To be like that. 00:20:48 Speaker 4: And that's why having the ammunition that they had for the first time in forever to come up and get Delaying to kind of solve to pick out the spot of well, what is the most difficult for us to add young talent here and relative to what's available, And so they're able to go up and do that with Delane and then kind of filter in guys like Peter Woods on the interior defensive line. 00:21:11 Speaker 3: It's gonna take Tom. 00:21:13 Speaker 4: It's probably not gonna be like one of those situations where, oh, incident impact with Peter Woods. But you don't necessarily need that instant impact. 00:21:21 Speaker 5: You need occupy at least one extra per one person, so that Chris Jones. 00:21:25 Speaker 1: Has if you don't not if you don't get instant impact though, like you need Armison Thomas to do it or Ashton Jelotti from last year, like their pass rush was an abomination last year. They need Chris Jones to be like a little better than he was last year too, so and. 00:21:41 Speaker 4: That's why you draft on the traits of a guy like Peter Woods, where it's like, Okay, maybe your hands aren't where they're going to be in year three, but big fast guy, run hard. 00:21:50 Speaker 1: Also, Patrick Mahomes justin fields, Garrett Nussmeyer, that's a weird quub room. 00:21:56 Speaker 2: I love it, Patrick, and I. 00:21:58 Speaker 5: Are really respecting the honking. I just want to throw that out in the universe. 00:22:01 Speaker 1: Okay, that's my last honk of the day. Patrick, you're up with the Chargers, all right. 00:22:05 Speaker 4: So the Chargers take Mesadora after three tackles go in the previous five picks. They eventually come back and get Jake Slaughter out of Florida, the center, the speedster Brennan Thompson out of Mississippi State for Mike mac to scheme up. 00:22:18 Speaker 3: So that's fun. 00:22:19 Speaker 4: They come back and go the other direction immeasurables to get the largest player in the draft in Travis Burke, Logan Taylor the guard and another guard Alex at two oh six. So late in the draft they go quantity on the offensive line, but the quantity pick that they had early on goes to an edge that would have to either supplant a Hall of Famer or a guy who had thirteen sacks last year. Did the OA departure actually put the Chargers in a position of need to take a Keeam Mesador in the first round of the twenty twenty six draft. 00:22:49 Speaker 5: I think yes, because they were rushing three a lot and so and it was super productive for them when they were doing that last season, and so I do think that this was something they considered to be their their need and also offensive line depth. They got killed for, uh, and they had a position catastrophe at both tackle spots obviously, but even before that, they just got totally killed by for not having enough like developmental depth on the interior offensive line. And now they do sounds like Jay Slaughter, which is a badass name by the way, could play center or guard as well. So I know, again we don't want to move people around too much, but it is something where they This was like kind of a. 00:23:29 Speaker 2: Self aware draft by the Chargers. 00:23:31 Speaker 5: Of my opinion, I always appreciate when teams draft with some self awareness, and it was like very like Harbag gets his guys and Mike Mack gets his guys, and like it was a very identity kind of draft as well. 00:23:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, like they just went volume on the offensive line hoping that they can develop some of these later guys. It's a risk. Jake Slaughterer was a lot of people's number one center in the class. You would have to imagine they are going to move him to guard as a rookie and cross train him because they signed Tyler Biatis, who's never played a different position. I think long term though, having a guy that can play center Beiaddish might be a one two year guy. You have him on a rookie contract. It all makes sense. Like the entire offensive line is going to be different than it was a year ago now when after Joel got hurt. Obviously the two tackles got hurt, but all five starters will be different than the five starters that were playing in the playoffs. 00:24:22 Speaker 5: I'm trying to just find out if the Chargers offensive lineman collectively, if their group of last names is more of like a detective a detective show. 00:24:32 Speaker 1: Title Slaughter, Bey, Oddish, Strange, Joe Ault, or if it's. 00:24:37 Speaker 2: A series of Pokemon. You know, strange, be oddish slaughter. 00:24:41 Speaker 3: I could see it strange and slaughter itself. 00:24:44 Speaker 2: Is that's sick. 00:24:46 Speaker 1: They need your guy from a year ago, Trey Harris, to kind of step up at receiver. They didn't go receiver, but I think the guys they drafted last year could step up. And to answer your message or question, yeah, I think the answer is yes. They and also Cleo Max very year year he thought about retirement, so I think they think of that position as three starters and they got one. 00:25:05 Speaker 5: Yeah, and again it was highly productive for them last year, so I can see the at least the process behind Matt. 00:25:14 Speaker 1: I'm up next. It's the Raiders. I love that John Spytech is back to be in everyone's favorite. They're so deep at at edge. Our buddy Drew Christensen before we take forties and free agents, the Raider phrase like did they even need Keron Crawford in the third round, Like we got too many pass rushers? I mean talking about the Raiders having too many pass rushers. I thought that was a good pick. There was a big gap maybe between him and who was coming next. Trade and Stukes in the second round can play safety for you. They added four players in the secondary between rounds two and five, so I think they told us a little bit. What they thought about their roster was that the defense, especially the secondary, actually still needed more work. On offense after windows, I mean, they had a million picks, Trey Zun's an offensive linemen in round three and Mike Washington kind of a big play running back in round four. My question is, are they setting up Fernando Mendoza for success. The number one wide receiver right now on the roster is probably Jalen Naylor. It's the tight end, sure, but I'm saying wide receiver. 00:26:22 Speaker 2: Well yeah. 00:26:23 Speaker 5: And I know they got banged for not like focusing more high round pick attention on that they needed more dimension in my opinion, and I say that, you know, not to sound like a broken record. A lot of teams, I think suffer from this where they get too many guys that are the same guys or they kind of go and fall into these patterns your habits. Malik Benson, I know he's a six round pick, super late pick up, but he's a burner like, he's fast, fast, he can get behind a defense, So we'll see if that works out. I like that they address the quarterback development plan in free agency. I think that's where you do it. If you are going to spend that type of of draft capital the number one overall pick on a quarterback, you need to set up infrastructure for him around him. The Linderbaum signing and then bringing Kirk Cousins to sort of help in that bridge. Like, I just think that they've already done their quarterback development plan and now it's about, okay, we really need to figure out there's the rest of the roster exists. 00:27:21 Speaker 1: Also on a minute, and I'm sure there was a scenario where they take a receiver earlier, but yeah, that guy didn't fault to them. They didn't want Denzel Boston. I thought there were so many like Ted Hurst and Chris, but there were so many of these third round dart throws. I wouldn't they had so many picks. I would have thought they would have done a receiver a little earlier. But now, yeah, or Sarrat give Sarat to his old Collins qbman Doza. 00:27:41 Speaker 4: But I think we could take away from that, you know, their comfort with regards to what they did do in the plan, which calls twenty twenty five into question. Once again, like, what exactly was that, because you clearly are looking into this Kirk Cousin this thing, and I don't. 00:28:01 Speaker 3: Think it's going to be Kirk Cousins all season. 00:28:02 Speaker 4: I think eventually the number one overall pick is going to have to play because playing is how you improve. And I don't know how much watching is going to do for Fernando Mendozan. And to be honest, I think good. You know, if he goes out there, you know has the slings of an arrows of outraigeous fortune. You know, thanks scoring, and. 00:28:21 Speaker 1: They got Trebod McCoy and the fourth. It's a good offseason for Rob Leonard and for the ninety nine percent of the people out there listening who don't know who Rob Leonard is. That's the defensive coordinator of the Las Vegas. Don't think that many people are familiar. But man, they loaded up some picks for Rob Leonard. Once again, I did go over the honking limit, but let's take a break so we don't honk anymore. We will be back with the AFC South. On the other side, we're moving really well. Back on NFL Daily. I just shook it up and randomized how these divisions would go AFC South. I feel like has to wait till the end a lot of the times we're going second with AFC South and one of the premier teams in the NFL, the Houston Texans. 00:29:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, do you guys ever feel like Texans GM Nick Cassario is one of those sort of like mild mannered guys who walks around the office and like his fleece quarter zip best and then in his non work hours he's in a fight club because I feel like he and Dimiko Ryans just keep finding absolute ass kickers to add to this defense. And if there's one thing I'm starting to really really trust, it's that they will find guys who can not only at times contribute immediately, but will just continue to make this an absolute defensive factory. This time it's Caaden McDonald, the defensive tackle out of Ohio State, who's going to contribute right away, should give their run game in immediate. Boost also really loved that moment for him when he did get drafted, because he was super emotional about it and they didn't have much else to do on defense in terms of starters. That was a need for them sort of a quiet one after free agency and they didn't. They needed some safety depth as well, and so they always are looking for those guys and also linebackers as well, so they paid attention to those spots in the draft. I also liked that they continued to address their offensive line, like this was a team that maneuvered its offensive line quite a bit in the off season some departures and also a couple of additions, but also needed to get younger at certain positions too. Kaylin Rutledge, it was a popular pick for them. So I really like this draft, and my biggest question is what can this offense itself specifically look like in year two under Nick Kayley. I don't have any remaining questions about this defense right now and probably in the future, but I do have questions about year two of this system. How will they add in help for CJ. Stroud and who will ce J Stroud even be? 00:31:03 Speaker 1: That's I'm not worried about c J. Stroud, but it is obviously a big question for them for him to regain the sizzle I think he had as a rookie, because it's not It's less about the disastrous playoff game and more about the uneven regular seasons. That he's had the last two seasons where I think they haven't been as bad as people think, but also they haven't been as as consistent. The weirdest rumor the you know, report throughout this whole thing was that Nico Collins was potentially available. They have a lot to sort out Patrick. That's what worries me with Kaylee, who didn't seem like he sorted out. Yeah, you have all these offensive linemen, but you have a million to sort out. And then after Nico Collins, you kind of have a weird receiver group to fill out where it's like, we don't know what the roles are. 00:31:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't know what the roles are, but we know that there's talent there yep, in terms of like top to bottom, and well, you consider a team that was so gifted, so explosive, so good on defense, and it's like, we just got to fix the offense. 00:31:54 Speaker 3: And you look positioned by position. 00:31:56 Speaker 4: You're like, wait, okay, so they got those two rookies from Ihowa, still pretty good wide receiver plus one of the betters wide receivers in the game tight end at least have one get We'll see turn of Tank Dell. So It's like position wise, I want to look at this heavily defensive draft and be like, ah, wow, why aren't they addressing the need? It's it's got like Keilan Rutlich, Nick Kayley, c J. 00:32:19 Speaker 3: Stroup. They got to figure it out. 00:32:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, and don't forget they addressed already. David Montgomery is on the team with Woody Marx now, and so I really like this build. They just have to do something with it at this point. 00:32:30 Speaker 3: Welcome with a stick. 00:32:31 Speaker 1: The Colts build has been fascinating to me over the last handful year, especially this offseason. This is your team, Patrick, Yes. 00:32:40 Speaker 4: The Colts get one of the better, uh interior linebackers in terms of the draft where they're able to kind of build on the need there the questions kind of go out to edge where it's you know, a lot of it was related to what players were actually available when they did make the picks, but in terms of you know, filling out this this need, where's that necessarily coming from? And then also with the trade request and I'm blanking on one of the better corners. 00:33:13 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner No, Kenny Moore. 00:33:14 Speaker 3: Yes, Kenny Moore? 00:33:15 Speaker 4: Who's again you know it is Age thirty season, you do get sauce, but you have, in my opinion, a need at cornerback where there's still spots on this team that are massive areas of need that haven't necessarily been addressed. And my question with the twenty twenty six Indianapolis Colts, obviously the status of Dimes and his availability coming back from the Achilles, is there are there enough pieces to facilitate a successful Dime season even after Yes. 00:33:48 Speaker 1: To me, they're the biggest, one of the biggest boomer bus teams, Like if everything goes right, I think it's just barely yes, although they could use another wide receiver. Alex Pearce is coming off of surgery and their third receiver right now is westbrook a keen. People love Dion Burks, who was a seventh round pick. You can't even expect that guy to make the team, but Daniel Jeremiah loved him. I'll like, people love Deon Brooks, so maybe he could help. But they're really trying to thread a very short needle, whereas like some of these teams that are good, like the Rams, obviously we'll get to like where you can't see starters out of the class. The Colts didn't have a first round pick, and they're definitely starting c J. Allen and they're almost certainly starting AJ Halsey, their third round pick who people loved, and some of their later guys. Also, I think we're gonna have a chance to play right away, so high risk, I think approach. 00:34:36 Speaker 5: C J. Allen picked a team match, one of my favorite ones in this entire draft because he immediately you know, they they started ways with Sire Franklin and it was probably time at that point and they needed to get a Day one starter Captain Green dot material in that building to shore up the center of their defense that had a lot of issues last year. And so I like, you know, you've talked about a lot about statements of tent Greg, this was one of them for them. No first round pick, so you're not going to probably draft an edge rusher. You're not going to reach on one in the second round. So you're going to go take other areas of your defense in the second and third round that are super super important to that group, and that's c J. Allen and then AJ Halsey at safety. Like you mentioned, I think that they really I like this draft class, and I think I think it works based on where they're at. I also don't think they necessarily added like a premier receiver with a high pick because they also. 00:35:29 Speaker 2: Have Tyler Warren. 00:35:30 Speaker 5: Then they've sort of declared him as one of those mismatch receivers. So they're building out these layers, but you're probably looking at him as like a volume one or two and receiver three essentially. 00:35:41 Speaker 4: And they go volume at edge of five and six with gums and curve. But it's you hope one of those guys. 00:35:48 Speaker 1: They have to they started to do. I like that, my guy James dj Allen getting the first round treatment. Whenever you're the second round pick, but they didn't have the first round or you get the first round treatment, and he deserved it. One of my favorites also did not have a first round pick because of the Travis Hunter trade. They angered a lot of the draft knicks because they went so far off the consensus board with a lot of their picks. The thing that got a little lost in the shuffle afterwards was how James Gladstone talked about it, and he said, we continue to just place a higher priority on the intangible elements of the So when people I think almost unfairly, Like, hey, you think you're smarter than the rest of the NFL. When he's saying that we're focusing on intangibles, I do think he's telling you, yeah, like we're trying to look at things differently. We'll see if they're right. The only problem with like taking you know, bor Kercher in the second round, which people were shocked about the tight end and it started this tight end run is like if all these tight ends and Marlon Klein was another crazy one with the Texans, if all these tight ends were worthy of second round picks, Like why why didn't these tight ends in free agency get paid more? Like Kate Atten's a twenty million dollars player. If you're taking Burke Corkster in the second round, they. 00:37:01 Speaker 5: Didn't get paid more because they were coming in the draft, right, Like it helped. 00:37:05 Speaker 2: These are teams capitalizing on a surplus. 00:37:08 Speaker 1: Right, And I think the argument would be, like, we'll see they're projecting a lot in an older player who's not necessarily gonna be like a big blocker. But Albert Regis, Jalen Husky, Wesley Williams, all these guys that they were taking like a risk on do you believe that there is a way Jordan to find intangibly rich players better than other teams, and that I. 00:37:33 Speaker 5: Guess we'll see, you know. I mean, I've done a lot of work on scouting and process and all that type of thing. I think a lot of teams think they are they have a good process of doing that, but you just don't know, right, Like I guess we'll have to see, he. 00:37:46 Speaker 1: Said, Like that's kind of their focus and to the point where they will ignore I think some of the other more traditional stuff like combine numbers. 00:37:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will tell you. 00:37:54 Speaker 5: I will tell you too, just knowing that building. They're not ignoring the consensus board, like they probably have a bigger built out consensus board, like they're using like our friend Aarifassant, Like they are using these things, but they are aware of them. But they're choosing to go in a different direction. And that is really I don't want to say strange, but it's intriguing to me, Like I'm curious to know more about why they did that. 00:38:16 Speaker 3: I love it. 00:38:17 Speaker 1: But they also didn't get almost any production out of their rookie class last year, so they need that class to step up, and they need these guys to play, because then if you go a couple of years like that, then it gets really worried. 00:38:26 Speaker 4: And I think eventually you will need to tell people what aspects you are using to evaluate these guys. 00:38:30 Speaker 2: Because I would like to know. 00:38:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, because saying intangibles it doesn't mean anything, like what is it? 00:38:36 Speaker 1: Well, Casario talks a lot about he wants captains, he wants guys who are married with like kids, he wants responsible, like young men. 00:38:43 Speaker 2: He wants them to join his fight club. 00:38:44 Speaker 1: Right, I don't know. I don't think that's what the Jaguars are doing, but that's what Casario talks. 00:38:48 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the marriage with kiss things is preposterous. Yeah, it's incalculably vapid. But the whole intangibles thing that yeah, like James, let us know what the thing is because saying intangibles like you couldn't evaluate based. 00:39:04 Speaker 1: On chads proprietary information because they're intangible. 00:39:07 Speaker 2: I got to find out, how can we evaluate on something it's intangible? 00:39:09 Speaker 1: Wait did you say incurably vapid? What did you say? 00:39:13 Speaker 3: Incalculably that incalculably vapid. 00:39:16 Speaker 2: That's a winner. 00:39:17 Speaker 1: That is what the Tennessee Titans will hope not to be this year. Basically, do not be the incalculabily, I can't say that word. Vapid team. Amazing. 00:39:25 Speaker 2: You gave it a creditab bulletin. 00:39:27 Speaker 3: Thank you. 00:39:28 Speaker 2: Yes, I have the Tennessee Titans. Excuse me. 00:39:31 Speaker 5: Not even halfway through last season, we at this desk were all collectively carrying our hair out about all of the drops and inconsistency that cam Ward had along his skill. Excuse me, a receiver during his rookie season. Now he's got a new best friend. Yes, Arnel Tate, who the text? Excuse me. The Titans really surprised everybody by drafting him at number four, but it was pretty clear with all the hype around them potentially picking Jeremiah Love that they were going to go offense, and I really liked what they started doing in this draft because they they had some fun with pairing I think players their head coaches were going to like now they have two head coaches in the building or former head coaches, one currently the head coach and Robert Sali, and they also have Brian Dables, so it really felt. 00:40:12 Speaker 1: Like assistant GM Brian Dabele, He's doing great. 00:40:16 Speaker 5: It really felt it really feels like they're kind of getting they each got like their guy guys because later in the first round, Keldric Falk really does feel like a Robert Sala player who traits that he would like to develop in, a player who he can really kind of see a vision four. So I like the intentionality that they went through. I like in the off season that they rebuilt their defensive line. It looks completely different now with Fulk and then also Jonathan Franklin Myers being there next to Jeffrey Simmons. My big question that remains, like what does success actually look like for the Tennessee Titans this season. 00:40:50 Speaker 1: Kim word playing more consistently and having a productive offense. I obviously you don't want Salad defense to fall like to be terrible, but they don't even matter that much to me. They could be anywhere from like twenty fourth to tenth. It's not going to change. 00:41:06 Speaker 2: How like a right Sala you know. 00:41:08 Speaker 1: And Dabel, Like think how different this entire roster would be if Dabel wasn't there. He has so many ex giants. But yeah, if if this works out and Tate is only the second number one over or third number one overall, pick to have a receiver drafted the very year after good history here Joe Burrow got Jamar Chase the next year, and David Carr got Andrey Johnson the next year. So let's hope. Let's hope it works like that. 00:41:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, if he's chaserre that absolutely works out. I think success for the Titans looks like road wins in like two of three in Indianapolis, in Houston, Jaxsonville. They get those. They get two out of three of those wins against pretty good teams, all playoff contenders, where you can say, all right, they've arrived, they are within the division, they're having success. If they get that, I think we can project long term success. 00:42:03 Speaker 1: They kind of reminding me a little bit of the Saints last year or a lot of that division that, like, the jump from three wins to six or seven is actually one of the easiest jumps you can possibly make in the NFL. That's success just getting to like not great but okay, but especially on offense. Well, all I care. 00:42:21 Speaker 5: About improving on offense and showing you're building an environment for your future franchise. Quarterback is going to be the end all, be all goal here, and it has to be and so that's why I like about what they did in free agency. Combined with picking Carnal Tape, you're just giving the quarterback more tools. 00:42:36 Speaker 1: I love that Tape pick the more the more I sat with it, and I'm surprised some people don't. They're dumb. The Bills, they're up. Patrick Clayband is going to talk about them. 00:42:46 Speaker 4: Yes, And the Buffalo Bills are able to use their draft capital to address multiple spots where you get TJ. Parker out of Clemson and you're like, wait this, this feels like I'm a Dermot pick in terms of the type of player there, but they address needs. They address needs in the secondary as well. In the Buffalo Bills also get a wide receiver in terms of what they can do in this draft where. 00:43:16 Speaker 3: They've got a. 00:43:20 Speaker 4: Unit a group of guys who haven't necessarily had success where they bring in the veteran edge rusher, so they address needs there. In terms of trying to stay healthy, I think Brandon Bean would like to get into the postseason where they say, Okay, these are the guys we can count on and rely on to play and rush the passer. It's just a typical question of was enough done right. I don't see the vision on defense, I do worry about it. They've added people this year. 00:43:50 Speaker 1: I don't know if I necessarily see them as like Jim Leonard people that was, you know, that was how they talked about really taking this group over, like we have a vision for the whole team. I don't know if I see it yet. On defense, we'll see. 00:44:04 Speaker 5: I expand on that please, because Alie was like pretty fired up on the Winners and Losers podcast that you guys did recently, and I thought it was super interesting because when you look at this draft on paper, it does look like they've addressed their defense. Yet when you go, you know, pop the hood a little bit, and Ollie was was pretty solid talking about this. He says that these are not scheme fits to what he knows that Jim Leonard. 00:44:27 Speaker 3: Well, does Jim Leonard want to Jim Jim Leonard's scheme? 00:44:30 Speaker 1: Really, we think it's gonna be more of you know, the vance Joseph guys in multiple positions, a lot of posts that move, a lot of like versatility, and that's not necessarily what they've focused on this offseason. And it is interesting to see we're taping this in the studio. We got the nice graphics up if you're checking it out on YouTube, and it says how the Bills eliminated by the Broncos and Jim Leonard's team last year. It just makes me think, Man, that's another Super Bowl appearance they really should have had. They should have won that freaking game. They were, they're playing well, they would have beat the Patriots. I think they probably would have lost in the end. But yeah, that's that's like two Super Bowls they were robbed by. Sorry, that's just a distraction from the larger point. Skyler Bell could be like a future Khalil Shakir, Yeah, partner where he does some similar things and Josh Allen likes to use him. 00:45:12 Speaker 5: Yeah, I like his upside in terms of just like you want to talk about versatility. I do think that he's a versatile player. He's kind of like toolsy, he's physical like all of that. But I also think I'm hired patrick to answer your initial question, did they do enough on offense? I'm just I'm higher, I think than most on the DJ Moore edition. I think he plus the tight ends. You know, Brandon Bean alluded to this, and I know he says it every year, but he alludes to this a little bit more greg with us in our very brief interview we did with him at the combine, actually committing to getting a little bit heavier in terms of personnel, not using the extra tackle, doing more things with the tight ends. And I think that this, you know, getting their guys healthy will be important. But I like DJ Morre's fit with that type of. 00:45:56 Speaker 1: Plan their roster, even though I think it's got some problems. I'd even's it's not as bad as I thought once it went through. It still still Super Bowl contender. The Dolphins are not maybe the worst roster in the NFL. 00:46:09 Speaker 2: I love this draft right now. I love what they're doing, I. 00:46:14 Speaker 1: Think with it. When you have so many picks, you're gonna have ones that are popular. Chris Johnson, the cornerback at the end of the first round, was great. Jacob Rodriguez was an interesting pick that they chose him kind of over c. J. Allen and some of the other inside linebackers, but he sets a tone. Chris Bell is a third round pick with a really high upside from Louisville. But Caleb Douglass was a guy that people were stunned went that early. We'll see. I mean their number one receiver right now potentially is Greg Dulcic. Third tight end. I mean they have no I can't remember a worse wide receiver edge, you know, combination. Their top edge is Chop Robinson, who hasn't been able to stay on the field. So they didn't really get to address those positions with anything. Sure, Like I like the draft, fine, but do you think this is the worst roster in the NFL? 00:47:03 Speaker 3: Patrick? 00:47:04 Speaker 1: So I settled on after going through thirty two hour lads groups, No. 00:47:09 Speaker 3: I don't. 00:47:09 Speaker 4: I would give the edge to a different team if the Arizona Cardinals have to play Gardnerment. 00:47:17 Speaker 2: Finally came back around. 00:47:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, the airs that Cardinals have an awesome offense other than quarterback. Actually, I've kind of settled in on that, like that's that's another conversation. 00:47:26 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:47:26 Speaker 4: No, I mean it's Jacobe dependent to me there. But yeah, I wouldn't say it's the worst roster in the NFL. But I mean it's it's in the discussion. 00:47:38 Speaker 1: It's what rebuilds look like. Though I'm not killing them for that. I think some of these picks will work out, some of them, don't you said, you really loved it. What made you love this? 00:47:44 Speaker 5: I loved it because they followed exactly what this build is supposed to be. They they have established who there now John eRx Sullivan is calling them pillars. Previously they've been known as weight bearing walls. He's established who they are and then picked in volume on the other side of that movement in free agency, and I think that that's important because a lot of these guys are going to play right away and they're gonna they're gonna have to see kind of what they can be and what they can contribute. And I think if they get you know, if they even hit on forty uh contributors, key role players in this class, that is a successful draft. And I like that they had they picked third, They had thirteen picks, the most of any team. And I appreciate picking in volume when you are going through a rebuild a decimation of their defense, that's that significant. And I absolutely think that, you know, a guy like Chris Johnson is a cornerstone type of guy who you can build around. I appreciated this draft because it to me, it's really part to hole sets. It really is in sync with their overall play, not a sprint rebuild, just a it's a sprint. I maintain that Caden Proctor's got to work out. You passed on Caleb Downs. I do think them and the Giants, I'm going to keep an eye on those two for passing on Caleb Downs. Talk to me twenty twenty seven right after, you know, as twenty twenty seven, like halfway through the season. Get to me at the midway point, because these are the exact same things that people were saying about the forty nine ers, the Bucks, the Rams like. 00:49:13 Speaker 1: But those teams were previously good and had like great. 00:49:16 Speaker 5: Players, all teams that decimated their roster and then overhauled it in rapid fashion by taking on a lot of dead money and then picked in volume. 00:49:23 Speaker 2: On the other side, I. 00:49:25 Speaker 1: Think, yes, they were coming from a position where they didn't have like the longest playoff drought, you know, winning, you know, in terms of getting a win in the NFL. That's the problem they're building really from this start. You got the Patriots who felt like they were in a similar position last year and then ended up in the Super Bowl. 00:49:41 Speaker 5: What do you think I appreciated again, like I just mentioned with Miami, I appreciate when a team has a lot of draft picks and then things kind of make sense with their decision making. Caleb Blomo might have given us the best intro video of the ever of the entire draft, and one of the best I've ever seen. I liked that they went that direction with their first round pick, and then they grabbed another tackle later on in Demetrius crown Over, also a great name. I like that they hit the other side of the line of scrimmage. Is it Yakis if Yakis who is a fast and aggressive pass rusher, he fits kind of in with what they need to really desperately add on that side of the ball. They had a tight end need as well. They went with one with their third pick, Eli Raridan out of Notre Dame. He's more of a blocking tight end. But it really balanced as well if teams are wanting to put multiple tight ends on the field at once, which they are really fits in again, piece piece of a larger puzzle. You could see the strategy and first, first and foremost, and most importantly, it began with continuing to add to their offensive line, continuing to add to their pass rush. Those are going to be needs for them. I would say again in the coming year as well. They just were decimated. They just needed so much help. But I think this is a really really great addition to what they built last year along those lines. 00:50:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yakis is kind of, you know, a rugged like power player, Like that's their type and they needed to get younger. It was an old, pretty slow defense, still pretty slow at linebacker. Will be interesting if Lomo, you know, possibly it plays left tackle for them, like if they do consider playing Will Campbell inside. But it gives them some flexibility. I think that's part of the advantage of that pick. 00:51:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they have the options, right and once you you know, it's it's better to have the options than to than to not. And it's you know, not to say you're forced into a situation where a guy you took in the top five to play tackle, it has to play tackle. But they would be able to move off of that. I think, like when we consider all of the other things that they've done this all season, including the one thing that has yet to be done that we're all projecting that they're going to do a J. Brown, Yeah, it's it's hard to evaluate everything. Yeah, until that thing actually happens, let's predict what they give up for them. Anyone have any thoughts. 00:51:52 Speaker 2: A first and a second? 00:51:54 Speaker 1: Whoa, that would be a problem. 00:51:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, Howie Roseman next to you? 00:52:00 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty eight? 00:52:01 Speaker 3: First of a fifth? 00:52:02 Speaker 1: I think like first in Kishon Booty, how about that? But at first is is rich? It might be a couple of years out. There was one report like that. It could be a twenty eight for me. 00:52:11 Speaker 5: I don't know why the Eagles would want a receiver back in the equation after doing what they've done to their receiver's room over. 00:52:17 Speaker 1: This a different style than the types of guys that they have. I guess Tours kind of plays a Kishon Booty role, but maybe more just like why not? But yeah, I mean I would that that probably isn't really changing the equation too much. Kish On booty. It's a nice little throwing, nice little booty. 00:52:33 Speaker 2: As a Patriots fan, what did you think about their draft? 00:52:36 Speaker 1: It's fine, it's fine. I don't have I don't have hot takes. That was mine. 00:52:41 Speaker 3: I liked. 00:52:42 Speaker 2: I liked the uh big question about them? 00:52:44 Speaker 5: Was it like on paper and especially factoring in the potential of this tray of the s aj Brown trade. Like on paper they look like they got better. They're also gonna have a tougher schedule this year, So what will this team actually be. 00:52:56 Speaker 1: I worry that they're giving up future picks for to to get lower in general for a team that I think was a little slow. But I like aj Brown. Obviously you're up with the Jets. Is this the last team in the AFC? 00:53:07 Speaker 4: Well, and that's the thing about the Patriots schedule getting tougher. The Jets got better. Not only do they get the court you know the parallels Dan Campbell in the turnaround with Aaron Glenn. There they get Aiden Hutchinson. Well, here's David Bailey. They get Sam Laporta, Well, here comes Kenyon Sadik. They get a couple of national champions and Omar Cooper Indiangelo Ponds on both sides of the ball. There where you see the vision for the way that this is going to work in this edition of the Aaron Glynn era. But the question comes back to a couple of guys that have seen and played and done a lot of football, and Frank Reich and Gino Smith. Is that the recipe for success still like even after this draft, which I do feel great about in the year of our lower twenty twenty six. 00:53:56 Speaker 1: I'm more worried about Reich in a weird way because they've been and Gino. We kind of know who he's gonna be. Let's say, in a better situation, he's gonna be like a high level backup bridge starter type ish. But can Frank Reich provide that we'll see sidiq? I think there's questions of like, how do you see using him? You know, Mason Taylor is gonna probably have to bulk up and be a little bit more of that y tight end and do the blocking while Sidik is running up the scene. 00:54:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could totally see that. You know what was funny? 00:54:26 Speaker 5: It was like the Jets were almost like listening to all the conversations of people's favorite players in this draft, because it's Kenyon Sidik, who is a lot of people's favorite player, It's Omar Cooper Junior, he's a lot of people's favorite player, D'Angelo Ponds, which was really a nice moment when Pons, who got the Aaron Glenn comp goes to Aaron Glenn and Aaron Glenn watching him like, you know, like a proud dad watching him on the screen. 00:54:50 Speaker 2: It's I really it's hard to fault this draft. It's also hard to say, okay, the Jets. 00:54:57 Speaker 1: The Jets right right, Like on paper, there roster looks okay. Now they have eight new starters on defense. I think it's a big test. Can Aaron Glenn actually coached defense well in this modern NFL. He's kind of using some of the old Parcels stuff. It didn't work great at the end of the Detroit run. He has a lot of new players, including the number two overall pick in the draft and Pond, so I think he's got to make it work. I think Darren Muzi, though, has set himself up well it's hope season. The fact they have three first round picks next year. I think he's kind of insulated himself from. 00:55:29 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's built. He's built himself a castle. 00:55:32 Speaker 1: That any changes that go on. Do you think Aaron Glenn can get it done with all these new guys in free agency in the draft? 00:55:37 Speaker 3: I hope he gets a chance. 00:55:40 Speaker 4: To say Aaron Muzy's job with hypothetical picks, I would like I would like Aaron Glenn. 00:55:46 Speaker 1: And he had to lose Quinn Williams and Sas Gardner to get it. But That is a difference I think between let's say the Dolphins rebuild and the Jets rebuild is that the Jets are really selling hope with these three picks next year. 00:55:56 Speaker 4: And that's the advantage in the GM coach dichotomy is it's easier for the GM to sell the future than the because the coach asice that there and answer questions every time. After Sauce Gardner and you know, Quentin and Williams were making place for other teams. 00:56:10 Speaker 5: Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if they are better than expected on defense this year. The safety that they nicked up the corners. I really it's good on paper. 00:56:19 Speaker 1: I mean, I like their line. I think it was a great week for Gino Geno nation. We are so back. We thought it was over. But I'm a Jets fan at least for twenty twenty six. We did it around the AFC, we did it all week, all thirty two teams. I think we've accomplished a lot. And I appreciate your friendship and most importantly, what you contribute to NFL daily friendship is comes and goes. This show's foreverage. 00:56:50 Speaker 2: Yes, in reverse order, that's your hierarchy. 00:56:53 Speaker 3: No, it's not. 00:56:55 Speaker 1: We will be back one more time this week, myself and Nick Shook talking about some of the veterans that were impacted by the draft. And then I think that finally wraps up our twenty twenty six draft coverage and the off season really starts. To see that
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