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Rule Your Pool is a podcast by Orenda Technologies. This show was created for pool owners, operators, and service pros who want the best water quality possible. If you want to know what's really going on with your swimming pool chemistry, this might be the podcast for you. Each week, we'll cover a new topic related to swimming pools, water chemistry, or indoor air quality. With our help, you'll be able to rule your pool without over-treating it with chemicals and wasting money.
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Published 2026-05-06

Is the LSI actually an "Index"?

11 min Chapters
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[00:00] - Intro

[01:44] - Wójtowicz Update to the LSI Formula

[04:21] - Dr. Langelier's Original Index Formula

[05:56] - What water wants vs. What air wants

[08:18] - Closing

 

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Published 2026-04-15

Water Chemistry vs. Natural Stone

13 min Chapters
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[00:00] - Intro

[01:00] - What is natural stone?

[02:42] - Calcite is a dense form of calcium carbonate

[06:24] - Aggressive water seeks calcium, even in natural stone

[08:04] - Other natural stones that contain calcium

[11:22] - Closing

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Published 2026-04-08

Reverse Osmosis (RO) Filtration (w/ Matt Mueller)

52 min Chapters
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[00:00] - Intro

[01:50] - Matt Mueller's Background

[08:49] - Issues that Led to Reverse Osmosis

[11:03] - Draining and Refilling Depends on Tap Water Chemistry

[12:33] - The RO Process

[17:17] - The RO Experience, from a Customer's Perspective

[21:34] - Is Dilution the Solution to Pollution?

[23:14] - Density Stratification

[29:36] - How Low Should You Go?

[34:32] - What is Osmosis?

[36:09] - Is it Drinking Water Safe?

[37:27] - Flow Rates

[39:00] - How Much Does RO Filtration Cost?

[41:19] - Biofouling

[46:06] - What Can Be Removed from Water?

[47:10] - Closing

 

 

 

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Published 2026-04-01

186. NEW COURSE! C4633: Advanced Inflatable Watershape Installation Workshop

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You asked, so we answered. 

Thanks to feedback from students, instructors and sponsors like you, we are pleased to announce a new advanced construction course, addressing an underserved segment of the swimming pool industry.

Construction 4633:
Advanced Inflatable Watershape Installation Workshop (8)

This eight (8) hour course packs in two days worth of information into one action-packed workshop.  You will learn the five fundamental steps to selecting and installing an inflatable watershape.

Learn how to select the right inflatable watershape for your clients to harmonize with the aesthetic of their home's architectural style and their landscape design. Apply our core design principles to WOW your clients and make their dream become reality.

 

What you will learn

Installation techniques and best practices

  • Leak prevention and repair (besides duct tape)
  • Ongoing maintenance, including:
    • Avoiding swimming with sharp objects
    • Maximum chemical levels to avoid a lawsuit
  • Crafting a limited lifetime warranty that absolves you of any and all responsibility for literally anything that can go wrong
  • Tips and techniques for effective photography of the completed project to add to your portfolio

 

Cost: $8,000

...or just 8 easy payments of $1000, if you want to be like that. And oh yeah...

Happy April Fools Day.

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Published 2026-03-25

Allergic to Chlorine? A Microbiology Lesson (w/ Roy Vore, Ph.D.)

57 min Chapters
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[00:00] - Intro

[01:10] - Degrees of Chlorine Exposure

[03:51] - Our Bodies Produce Chlorine

[08:16] - Drinking Water is Chlorinated

[10:27] - Combined Chlorine and other Disinfection Byproducts (DBPs)

[16:07] - Prolonged Exposure to Chloramines and Bacteria

[23:28] - Is Swimmer's Ear an RWI?

[27:03] - Disinfection Contact Times (CT) and Cleaning Agents

[28:13] - Organic and Inorganic Chloramines

[30:09] - Chemistry by Committee

[39:43] - Our Industry Lacks Academic Research

[42:20] - CMAHC

[44:21] - Back to Bather Comfort and Irritation

[47:55] - Signs of Trouble

[50:00] - Closing

 

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Published 2026-03-18

Personalized Pool Chemistry (w/ Keegan Rivera)

23 min Chapters
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[00:00] - Intro

[01:12] - Keegan's Background

[03:45] - Using Engineering to Simplify Pool Care Advice

[05:43] - The Reality of Algaecides

[07:07] - Access to Information has Increased

[08:55] - Personalized Calculations for YOUR Pool

[10:56] - Common Homeowner Questions

[12:31] - Take the Quiz, Order your Kit, and Customize it as Needed

[14:22] - PersonalizedPool.com, and the My Pool Plan app

[21:43] - This is innovative and the first of its kind

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Published 2026-03-11

AI: My Unsolicited Opinions

19 min Chapters
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[00:00] - Intro

[00:55] - I remember when AI came out

[03:03] - An uncertain future

[04:23] - AI recognizes AI

[06:24] - Truth and reality are blurred now

[07:26] - The Trades are the future

[09:07] - Humanity must prevail

[10:46] - Mass disruption

[12:05] - Automation is already here

[14:27] - Closing

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Published 2026-03-08

Understanding Adjusted Alkalinity

9 min Chapters
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00:00] - Intro

[00:36] - Adjusted Alkalinity on a Pool Store Printout

[01:34] - Adjusted Alkalinity = Carbonate Alkalinity

[03:10] - Cyanurate and Borate also contribute to Total Alkalinity

[04:42] - Increasing CYA increases TA. About 1/3 of CYA is Cyanurate Alkalinity

[06:14] - Is Adjusted Alkalinity the "Real" Alkalinity?

[07:37] - One Breath Summary

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Published 2026-02-25

Swim School Chemistry (w/ Olympian Davis Tarwater)

30 min Chapters
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00:00] - Intro

[02:20] - Davis Tarwater's background

[08:24] - Water quality challenges

[18:20] - Swimmer irritation

[24:31] - Embrace the pH rise and plan for it

[26:56] - Closing

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Published 2026-01-29

Dad Mode: Unlocked

35 min Chapters
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[00:00] - Intro

[01:43] - New Baby and 2026 Goals

[05:44] - Service 2211 has been recorded, and will soon be online

[07:48] - 2026: A Building Year for Watershape U

[09:01] - Watershape U = Education + Reinforcement and Networking

[12:10] - The new WU Service Track

[13:33] - Upcoming WU Classes at Shows

[20:20] - Closing

[21:27] - Service 2211: Essential Water Chemistry - Unit A, Part 1

[24:49] - Learning Outcomes and Introduction

[27:13] - A.1 Hydrolysis, Saturation and Solubility

[31:51] - A.2 Water Chemistry Ranges

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Published 2025-12-26

Winterizing Pools Against Crystals (w/ Rob Romano and Bill Drakeley)

74 min Chapters
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[00:00] - Intro

[00:33] - Pool industry lifers

[07:25] - How pools are winterized in the Northeast

[11:51] - How cold is too cold to plaster?

[16:50] - Calcium chloride in the plaster mix

[22:06] - Freeze damage protection

[27:40] - Dilution's impact on the LSI during the winter

[33:51] - Testing fill water, and smart winterizing

[36:10] - Company culture of learning

[45:21] - Scale vs. calcium crystals

[52:50] - Accountability

[1:00:40] - Water and air physics

[1:10:38] - Closing

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Published 2025-12-12

Reinforced PVC Membranes (w/ Tony Jordan and Jeremy Heersink)

34 min Chapters
Open

[00:00] - Preface - Education Vacation Recap

[03:10] - Actual Introduction

[09:13] - New WU Class - C3291: Reinforced PVC Membrane Workshop

[14:35] - PVC membranes in cold climates

[16:33] - Installation and costs

[30:46] - Closing

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Published 2025-11-26

Essential Pool Equipment Taught by the Masters (w/ Rocco Russo)

39 min Chapters
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[00:00] - Intro

[01:12] - Introducing Rocco Russo

[06:15] - AI Displacement vs. Tribal Knowledge

[08:49] - 2025 Trainer of the Year

[20:50] - What to expect from S1311: Essential Pool Equipment - The Core Four

[33:44] - Closing

 

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Published 2025-11-14

Tile Mastery (w/ Jimmy Reed)

25 min Chapters
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[00:00] - Introducing Jimmy Reed

[07:58] - Weeks of precise prep work before tile goes in

[12:12] - The challenge is the point.

[13:46] - The Art and Science of Tile Work

[15:23] - C2611: Essential Tile Workshop

[18:58] - Closing

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Published 2025-11-12

Hands-on Plastering Education (w/ Jon Temple)

36 min Chapters
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[00:00] - Intro

[01:32] - Introducing Tempool

[04:33] - Common denominator lately: Residue

[06:21] - Easily distorted mix ratios

[23:22] - Rock-to-Rock Pebble Finish Exposure

[24:54] - Standardizing Systems

[26:50] - Exposure problems and Hot starts

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Published 2025-10-29

Shotcrete Science (w/ Charles Hanskat, P.E.)

49 min Chapters
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[00:00] - Introducing Charles Hanskat, P.E.

[01:26] - Shotcrete History

[06:39] - Shotcrete depends on velocity for compaction

[09:44] - Wet mix vs. Dry mix. What's right for you?

[11:38] - Water, Cement, and Time

[15:39] - Slump

[17:58] - Compressive strength

[19:46] - Aggregates

[21:25] - Standards and Minimums

[24:36] - Shrinkage and Cracks

[32:10] - Ideal conditions and Curing

[39:21] - Weepers

[42:29] - WU and ASA Shotcrete Certifications

[46:15] - Closing

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Published 2025-10-01

Social Kick (w/ Bryan Lundquist)

44 min Chapters
Open

[00:00] - Introducing Bryan Lundquist

[02:15] - Swimming Talk

[15:48] - Cloudy water, from a swimmer's perspective

[20:53] - Changing expectations of water quality

[27:09] - ChloramineConsulting.com

[29:33] - Showering before swimming, and not peeing in the pool

[36:27] - Swimming in natural water (a lake)

[40:24] - Unqualified Pool Advice

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Published 2025-09-24

My statement of purpose.

25 min Chapters
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[00:00] - Intro

[00:58] - To pool professionals.

[05:41] - To you, the individual listener.

[08:47] - To the industry in general.

[11:28] - To homeowners.

[18:30] - To me.

[21:20] - Upcoming education events.

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Published 2025-04-02

Thank you.

22 min
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Thank you to all of you who have listened to this podcast over the years.  You are greatly appreciated, and I hope you found value in what you learned here. It has been an honor.

-- Eric 

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Published 2025-01-15

Los Angeles Wildfire Relief

24 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:07 - Close to home

05:37 - Worse smoke and ash than forest fires

11:37 - our condolences

14:00 - How we are going to help

21:39 - Closing

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Natural disasters like the wildfires in Los Angeles are painful reminders that no matter how much we think we have domesticated nature, nature is always more powerful than we are.

Our deepest condolences to all affected by these fires. These hit close to home, as so many of our customers and HASA employees have been evacuated, and many of whom have lost everything.  Our prayers are with you.

We are here to support you however we can, so please do not hesitate to call your local HASA rep if you need someone to talk to.

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Published 2025-01-01

Water's Story (w/ Jim Lauria and Terry Arko)

26 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:52 - Jim Lauria and Mazzei

07:53 - Leonardo da Vinci and water

11:46 - Podcast: Water We Talking About?

15:14 - The Blue Mind - Wallace J. Nichols

20:13 - Water must be coaxed.

23:10 - Closing

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Published 2024-12-18

Can a pool heater have both corrosion AND scale?

20 min
Open

00:00 - Introduction

01:18 - Non-LSI causes of corrosion 

03:34 - Scenario 1: Chasing pH and range chemistry

09:05 - Acid abuse vs. containing pH

10:15 - Pouring undiluted acid can scale heaters?

13:06 - Scenario 2: Stray current / electrochemical corrosion

15:51 - Closing

16:27 - Watershape University - Service 1211: Essential Water Chemistry Class

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Published 2024-12-11

Understanding Metal Corrosion

38 min
Open

00:00 - Reminder: Watershape University Service 1211: Essential Water Chemistry class (8-hour certification)

04:50 - What is corrosion?

09:23 - Moisture, Condensation, and Corrosion

14:39- Metallurgist's explanation of corrosion

16:43 - What types of metals corrode?

23:48 - Residential pool corrosion

25:17 - Bonding against stray current

30:05 - Black flakes in the pool

31:44 - How to fix and prevent corrosion

35:07 - Closing 

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Published 2024-11-27

The Three Constants

23 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:12 - New Watershape University Class: Service 1211 - Essential Water Chemistry

05:42 - One big question each year

08:59 - Constant 1: Water will always return to its natural state

09:44 - Constant 2: Henry's Law

10:37 - Constant 3: Gravity

12:49 - Example of all three constants in one pool

19:59 - The three constants are eternal

21:52 - Closing

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Published 2024-11-20

Scale and Scum Lines on Pool Furniture (w/ Mike Collins, TenJam)

23 min
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SUPPORT HURRICANE HELENE VICTIMS: https://www.wryker.com/collections/helene-disaster-relief .  Check out with promo code HELENE.  What you buy will be matched buy Wryker Supply. Enter your shipping address, but the promo code will ensure the products go on a pallet for delivery to Samaritan's Purse.

 

00:00 - Introduction

00:49 - What is TenJam?

04:08 - Water inside pool furniture

07:33 - Why scum lines and calcium scale forms on pool furniture

14:46 -Clean up and prevention 

21:41 - Closing

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Published 2024-11-06

Integration with PaythePoolman (w/ Teresa Berry)

27 min
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SUPPORT HURRICANE HELENE VICTIMS: https://www.wryker.com/collections/helene-disaster-relief .  Check out with promo code HELENE.  What you buy will be matched buy Wryker Supply. Enter your shipping address, but the promo code will ensure the products go on a pallet for delivery to Samaritan's Purse.

 

00:00 - Introduction

01:05 - Teresa Berry

05:29 - The origins of PaythePoolman

08:19 - Problems addressed

11:35 - What constants can you rely on?

25:05 - Closing

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Published 2024-10-23

The Undeniable Power of Water

19 min
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00:00 - Introduction

03:03 - Hurricane Helene

07:14 - How much rain and flooding?

09:06 - Gravity is a constant

12:44 - Pools are just domesticated water

15:21 - Don't fight water.

16:53 - Announcing WU 1211: Basic Water Chemistry

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Published 2024-10-16

Cyanuric Acid Testing and its Limitations (w/ Joe Sweazy)

23 min
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00:00 - Introduction

02:27 - Testing frequency

05:11 - Melamine reagent for CYA testing

08:32 - Diluting the sample

13:32 - More testing precision at low CYA levels

17:51 - The future of CYA testing

21:17 - Closing

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Published 2024-10-09

Calcium Phosphate Scale

22 min
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00:00 - Introduction

02:15 - Credit to whom it is owed

03:14 - What is calcium phosphate?

08:42 - Formula for calcium phosphate precipitation

14:34 - Lab results (thanks Que Hales!)

16:05 - How to identify and prevent calcium phosphate scale

19:43 - Closing 

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Published 2024-10-02

Measuring Chemicals: Volume vs. Weight

14 min
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00:00 - Introduction

02:29 - Three most profitable tools for pools

06:16 - Dry scoop vs. Liquid measuring cup

09:56 - Product percentages

12:59 - Closing

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Published 2024-09-11

Closing time, one last call for calcium

30 min
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00:00 - Introduction

05:09 - Previous winterization podcast episodes

06:22 - WHY do we winterize the Orenda way?

07:44 - Three winterization fundamentals

08:16 - Mechanical and physical closing processes

11:18 - Water quality over winter

14:14 - Closing kits

16:26 - Our recommended closing chemicals

18:24 - Water balance over winter

24:15 - Vinyl liner and fiberglass winter damage

25:35 - Pool cover types matter

27:13 - Closing

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Published 2024-09-04

Understanding non-chlorine shock (w/ Terry Arko)

17 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:08 - Non-chlorine alternatives

03:06 - Disinfection and sanitization (5 and 3-log reductions)

05:16 - Affinity

07:49 - Oxidation

09:21 - What is non-chlorine shock?

12:06 - Non-chlorine shock vs. combined chlorine?

16:01 - Closing

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Foam and Defoamers (w/ Terry Arko)

31 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:18 - Soap

06:02 - Water temperature, soft water, and foam

12:11 - Defoamer products

17:16 - Proactive foam management: enzymes and chitosan

24:14 - When to drain and refill a spa

27:24 - Closing

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AirBNB, VRBO, and other vacation rental pools and spas

17 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:27 - Unpredictable bather load? Get back to basics.

03:05 - Back to the Four Pillars

04:12 - Four Pillars Action Steps

08:31 - We don't know what happens in these pools

10:17 - Rapidly changing water temperature

14:49 - Pool/Spa Combos

16:22 - Closing

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Automatic pool covers and water chemistry

16 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:29 - Why pool covers change pool chemistry

03:09 - Rain and snow dilution

03:48 - Auto-covers and plaster issues

05:00 - Salt chlorine generators and covered pools

09:11 - Breathable pool covers?

10:08 - Trichlor feeders on pools with autocovers

12:55 - Creative ways to off-gas CO2 from a covered pool

14:43 - Closing

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Saharan dust blowing across the Atlantic Ocean

11 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:58 - Saharan dust research

02:07 - What is Saharan dust?

03:15 - Why Saharan dust is important to our global ecosystem

07:20 - How Saharan dust impacts swimming pools

08:23 - Saharan dust is similar to wildfires and Haboob dust storms

10:11 - Closing

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Mid-summer update 2024

7 min
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00:00 - Introduction

03:29 - LaMotte integration with 601 discs

04:41 - App login vs. Orenda Academy login

06:28 - Watershape University course

06:55 - Closing

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A Pulmonologist's Perspective on Indoor Air Quality, and Blood/Water Chemistry (w/ Mike Fields, MD)

47 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:01 - Why Dr. Fields contacted us

04:58 - Indoor pools and HVAC design

09:59 - What are weezing and asthma?

14:25 - Medications for breathing issues

20:22 - What is a pulmonologist?

22:37 - Explaining chloramines and the pool smell

32:13 - Contamination Sources

34:56 - Blood and water chemistry

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Sunlight, UV, clouds, and chlorine destruction

27 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:30 - Using chlorine vs. Losing chlorine

06:42 - UV degradation (photolysis) of chlorine

08:11 - Electromagnetic radiation and light from the Sun

11:10 - Low and medium pressure UV disinfection systems

14:32 - Fluence (focused intensity)

17:54 - How sunlight destroys chlorine

19:49 - Minimal CYA is necessary

23:59 - Summary

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The voice of Olympic Swimming (w/ Rowdy Gaines)

49 min
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00:00 - Introduction

02:06 - Rowdy Gaines, from swimming to broadcasting

04:56 - The evolution of competitive swimming

16:18 - 2024 Olympic Trials

22:37 - Water and air quality in pools

28:43 - Step Into Swim foundation

35:41 - Game: Unqualified Answers

45:57 - Closing

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Orenda App version 5.0, LaMotte SpinTouch integration and our new Chemical Calculator

34 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:23 - What's new in the Orenda App version 5.0?

05:43 - LaMotte SpinTouch integration

13:43 - The new Chemical Calculator

17:08 - Login is required for these new features

22:07 - Demonstrating the new Chemical Calculator

27:08 - The website Orenda Calculator™

30:35 - Closing

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Preventing Shoulder and Back Injuries (w/ Paul Cagle, MD)

31 min
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00:00 - Introduction

02:10 - Dr. Paul Cagle, shoulder surgeon

06:02 - Scenario: lifting heavy buckets in and out of a pickup truck bed

11:32 - Protecting your back muscles

17:27 - Preventative strengthening exercises

21:06 - Most common shoulder injuries that lead to surgery

25:47 - Brushing a pool safely

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Full Transparency - Changes are Coming

18 min
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00:00 - Introduction

02:20 - Updating bicarbonate's pKa from 6.14 to 6.27

08:24 - Orenda app integration with a test kit

08:51 - The new calculator

15:02 - Account login

16:37 - Closing

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Understanding Cyanurate Alkalinity

30 min
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00:00 - Introduction

05:50 - Does the Orenda Calculator™ adjust alkalinity for CYA?

09:44 - pH buffering system: acids and conjugate bases

12:49 - Hydrogens move around, but don't go away

16:01 - pKa values

19:05 - Cyanuric acid and Cyanurate ion

22:13 - More CYA increases buffering capacity

25:15 - Using chlorine vs. Losing chlorine

28:52 - Closing

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Understanding pH buffering systems and pKa values

25 min
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00:00 - Introduction

03:16 - pH buffering

04:43 - Bicarbonate, cyanurate and borate

06:41 - pH is based on H2O and hydrolysis

09:56 - Carbonate alkalinity means dissolved CO2 determines pH

11:51 - Bicarbonate converts into carbonate at 8.3 pH

13:22 - High TA, more buffering capacity, more acid demand

15:19 - Acids and conjugate bases

18:16 - pKa values and buffering strength

20:52 - What does pKa stand for?

23:05 - Closing

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Cicadas (and other small dead animals) in Swimming Pools

14 min
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00:00 - Introduction

02:25 - Cicada broods every 13 or 17 years

05:44 - What do cicadas do?

07:03 - Cicadas and swimming pools

08:56 - What do cicadas introduce into swimming pool water?

10:44 - How to get cicadas out of the pool

11:29 - Other small dead animals in pools

13:02 - Closing

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Tools for the Modern Pool Pro, with Skimmer + Orenda (w/ Niki Acosta and Jack Nelson)

31 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:06 - How did Niki and Jack get involved in Skimmer?

06:08 - What's new with Skimmer?

09:56 - State of Pool Service Report

12:38 - Skimmer's Orenda Calculator integration

18:03 - The modern pool pro

20:06 - How does Skimmer want their customers to use this?

22:22 - The LSI quantifies water balance

25:42 - Tracking, Trending, and Forecasting

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Scaling Up your Pool Business with PoolBrain + Orenda (w/ Adam Beech)

29 min
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00:00 - Introduction

02:06 - What is PoolBrain?

04:40 - The pains of running a large pool service business

06:48 - A lack of data

09:42 - The power of standardization and checklists

14:43 - Growing vs. Scaling

21:58 - PoolBrain + Orenda Calculator™ integration

25:55 - Closing

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Self-Serving Pseudo-Science (w/ Terry Arko)

51 min
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00:00 - Introduction

03:13 - Myth 1: ANSI-11 Standards NEVER allow water chemistry outside the ranges

05:12 - Myth 2: It's important to give water what it wants to "make water happy"

10:01 - Myth 3: The pH is constantly increasing outside of the acceptable range stated in Standard 11, and there are no options

14:40 - Myth 4: Water balance indexes indicate whether water is scaling or corrosive to surfaces and metals

20:12 - Myth 5: In a pool using chlorine and cyanuric acid, keeping the pH in the acceptable range is not important. Chlorine is controlled by the CYA.

29:03 - Myth 6: To control algae, it is important to maintain a certain ratio of CYA to free chlorine

33:54 - Myth 7: Chlorine lock

36:15 - Myth 8: Chlorine demand is caused by high phosphates and nitrates

37:45 - Myth 9: Using bleach in a pool does not raise pH

48:00 - Wrap up

 

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Understanding Oxidation-Reduction Potential (ORP)

20 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:00 - ORP is a water quality subject

02:39 - Chlorine oxidizes by stealing electrons

04:25 - Why is ORP used in swimming pools?

06:26 - Is ORP measured as conductivity?

07:21 - Factors that affect ORP - pH, CYA, water temperature

08:23 - pH and ORP

11:19 - ORP accuracy is based on fixed pH and chlorine levels

13:22 - Cyanuric acid and ORP

14:24 - Water temperature and ORP

16:20 - Ways to increase ORP

19:23 - Wrap up

 

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Chlorine's pH impact in swimming pools (w/ Terry Arko)

35 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:12 - Old habits and beliefs about chlorine and acid

07:04 - Liquid chlorine (sodium hypochlorite)

11:07 - Our bodies produce HOCl too

12:13 - HOCl will become HCl (aka muriatic acid)

16:00 - Cal hypo (calcium hypochlorite)

21:30 - Sodium Dichlor (dichloro-s-triazinetrione)

21:46 - Trichlor (tricoloro-s-triazinetrione)

26:36 - Saltwater chlorine generators (SWG)

30:43 - Chlorine gas (Cl2)

33:16 - Closing

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Is the Orenda Calculator™ true to the LSI formula? Or different?

25 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:35 - We have learned from past mistakes

04:40 - The history of the Orenda Calculator™ formula

05:51 - Dr. Langelier's original formula = pH - pHs

10:47 - Revisions to the LSI in 1942, 1964, 1965 and beyond

12:32 - Technology is not limited by reference charts

14:29 - The LSI charts today are based on the updates by John Wojtowicz

17:22 - Wojtowicz wrote about the pH Ceiling concept

19:19 - The most precise LSI calculator in the world

22:55 - Wrap up 

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From the booth at the 2024 Northeast Pool & Spa Show

39 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:16 - Christian Shirilla, River Pools

08:13 - Jarred's amnesia

08:44 - Terry Arko, HASA

14:42 - Jonathan Heller, MikvahTech

24:19 - Kevin Cooley, Goudy Pools

32:36 - Miguel Chavez, Orenda

38:27 - Closing

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Unnaturally Natural

12 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:35 - Water will naturally balance itself

03:34 - Problems above 8.3 pH

04:46 - Chlorine breaks away from CYA at a higher pH

06:24 - Unnaturally Natural

07:56 - Orenda's Four Pillars

09:59 - 2024 learning objectives

11:37 - Closing

 

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Chemical product percentages and molar weight ratios

33 min
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00:00 - Introduction

03:48 - Molecular weight

07:30 - Avogadro's Number - the mol

09:28 - Molar weights of pool chlorine products

11:11 - Trichlor percentages

14:52 - Dichlor percentages

17:14 - Calcium hypochlorite percentages

19:36 - Sodium hypochlorite (liquid bleach) percentages

23:03 - The Orenda Calculator™ does these equations for you

25:06 - Chlorine byproducts

27:21 - Wrap up

 

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Recap of the 2023 Int'l Pool and Spa Show

23 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:10 - Podcast growth

02:11 - Int'l Pool & Spa Show

05:13 - Watershape University Essential Plaster class (C3611)

09:26 - Pool Nation Awards / HASA Afterparty

14:06 - Honest education remains our top priority

18:06 - Closing out 2023

19:36 - Routing Softwares

21:18 - Closing

 

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Top Questions of 2023

39 min
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00:00 - Introduction

03:19 - Can't hold chlorine for a week?

09:05 - Can I maintain a pool at a higher pH?

12:38 - Where can I buy Orenda products?

15:34 - Calcium flakes in salt pools

18:53 - Why does pH keep climbing on a new plaster pool?

22:25 - Fiberglass chalking vs. scale

24:08 - Know your actual water chemistry before calling us

29:37 - Moving forward into 2024

32:04 - Grant's macho interruption

33:04 - Price increases. Are you accounting for them?

38:14 - Closing

 

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Alkalinity's complicated relationship with chlorine

19 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:59 - Relationship 1: High alkalinity can lead to chlorine loss via sunlight

03:41 - Coincidence vs. Cause

04:32 - pH, chlorine and CYA graph

07:36 - Chlorine leaves CYA when the pH gets high enough

09:11 - How alkalinity is involved

11:32 - Relationship 2: Chlorine can increase alkalinity

12:17 - Excess hydroxides in liquid chlorine and cal hypo accumulate

14:30 - Chemistry of chlorination

15:59 - Chlorine hydroxide byproducts

17:41 - Summary

 

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The man who rules his pool

30 min
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00:00 - 🎶 The man who rules his pool 

02:36 - How I ruled my pool this summer

03:43 - Spreadsheet documentation

04:42 - Pool Volume: approximately 24,000 gallons

06:05 - May 9-14: Green pool cleanup

07:57 - May 14: Balance the LSI

12:08 - Leaves, debris, vacuuming and dilution

13:45 - Weekly liquid chlorine and CV-600 enzymes

15:02 - Two major rain storms and mud slides

16:46 - Add it all up

17:59 - Alkalinity: maintained thanks to liquid chlorine?

21:47 - Other products used

24:24 - Summary

26:43 - Chlorination

 

 

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Commercial Swimming Pools (w/ Dennis Ingram)

20 min
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00:00 - Brief introduction

00:41 - CV-600's eye-opening results in commercial pools

03:34 - Filter purge

05:59 - Scale issues

07:19 - Phosphates

10:54 - UV

12:20 - LSI in commercial pools

14:36 - pH and alkalinity, overdosing acid feeders

19:24 - Closing

 

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Indoor Air Quality, and Remembering Derek Ingram (w/ Dennis Ingram)

36 min
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00:00 - Long introduction

02:23 - Remembering Derek Ingram

10:47 - Introducing Dennis Ingram

13:33 - Origins of the Paddock Evacuator

17:08 - Indoor pool chemistry

19:36 - Developing the Evacuator into the standard of care

23:53 - A paradigm shift in natatorium HVAC design

28:15 - Derek's legacy

 

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Chemical Conflicts | Specialty Chemicals

27 min
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00:00 - Long introduction and housekeeping

05:02 - What are specialty chemicals?

07:25 - Metal removers

10:17 - Citric acid (ascorbic or vitamin C)

12:09 - SC-1000 conflicts with chlorine initially

13:55 - Sequestering agents vs. phosphate removers

17:43 - Enzymes vs. polymers

18:44 - Enzymes vs. various products (hydrocarbons)

20:46 - Orenda's philosophy

23:23 - Closing

 

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Chemical Conflicts | Alternative Sanitizers (w/ Terry Arko)

12 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:01 - Biguanides

03:45 - Hydrogen Peroxide

05:37 - Bromine

07:06 - Secondary Systems

10:51 - Wrap up

 

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Chemical Conflicts | Algaecides (w/ Terry Arko)

22 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:03 - Types of algaecides

01:52 - Copper sulfate

04:54 - Quat and Polyquat (quaternary ammonia)

08:11 - Enzymes conflict with polyquat algaecide too

09:53 - Sodium bromide

13:35 - Mineral systems and ionized metals

16:09 - Ammonium sulfate and Dimethyl ammonium chloride

19:14 - Polymers

20:13 - Wrap up

 

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Chemical Conflicts | Chlorine

24 min
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00:00 - Introduction

04:54 - Rule 1: Never let chlorine touch any other chemical

07:16 - Rule 2: In commercial pools, pick ONE type of chlorine

09:11 - Rule 3: Keep acid stored with separate spill containment

11:44 - Rule 4: For residential pools, only one primary chlorine type, and possibly one secondary chlorine stored separately

12:36 - Trichlor feeders need to be installed correctly

15:15 - Rule 5: Saltwater pools can use a secondary chlorine shock (but not in-line)

17:10 - Rule 6: Create physical separation between chemicals in your vehicle

19:00 - Mistakes happen...even Eric is guilty

20:33 - Chlorine "conflicts" in water

22:41 - Summary

 

 

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Published 2023-08-16

Understanding Biofilms (w/ Darla Goeres, Ph.D.)

52 min
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00:00 - Introduction

04:07 - What is a biofilm?

07:36 - Biofilms encompass more than previously known

11:48 - Microbially-induced corrosion

17:14 - Are all biofilms bad?

20:26 - Biofilms are like Jell-o

24:32 - Biofilm ingredients and chlorine resistance

28:17 - Kill vs. Removal

32:23 - Prevention vs. Remediation

36:42 - How clean is clean?

40:01 - Log-reductions in disinfection

42:53 - How to remove and how to prevent biofilms in pools

48:15 - Where to learn more about biofilms

 

 

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Calcium and LSI in Fiberglass and Vinyl Pools (w/ Tyler Mills)

14 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:29 - pH rise should NOT be caused by cement finishes

05:08 - Is calcium needed in vinyl and fiberglass pools?

07:17 - Fiberglass gel coat degradation and chalking

09:25 - Vinyl liner fading

11:04 - LSI and calcium levels always matter, regardless of pool type

 

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Published 2023-07-26

Green and Yellow (Mustard) Algae (w/ Terry Arko)

31 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:53 - 30,000+ species of algae exist

07:45 - Planktonic and Filimentous algae types

09:48 - Organic slime protects algae

10:43 - Brushing helps prevent algae

13:44 - Why we advise against using algaecide products

14:48 - Why algae can have different colors

16:11 - How to treat a pool with algae

17:58 - How to prevent algae

21:11 - How much chlorine is needed with CYA?

27:17 - Conclusion. Thanks for listening!

 

 

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Published 2023-07-19

Black Algae

27 min
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02-54 - Black Algae is actually cyanobacteria

06:02 - To have black algae, it has to be transmitted from elsewhere

08:24 - Black algae is protected by a non-living organic shield

12:48 - Softening the shield

15:43 - Black algae removal procedure

17:18 - Cleaning up afterward

19:26 - No need to superchlorinate

22:30 - Killing the root of the bacteria

24:31 - How to prevent black algae

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Published 2023-07-04

Chelating vs. Sequestering, and Chlorinating after SC-1000

15 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:12 - Why SC-1000 reduces free chlorine

02:58 - How to use SC-1000 without zeroing out free chlorine

04:25 - How to chlorinate after SC-1000

05:29 - Sequestering vs. chelating

07:09 - The distinction between metals and minerals

08:06 - Phosphate-based sequestering agents

10:17 - Cold water temperature

11:33 - Use SC-1000 in the spring, not the fall

12:32 - Recap

13:42 - Closing, and new HASA Feedback email, feedback@hasa.com

 

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Published 2023-06-28

Understanding Calcium: the bedrock of water balance

29 min
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01:09 - Previous podcast episodes about calcium

03:08 - Calcium is the bedrock of water balance

05:02 - Quick LSI review

09:50 - Water will balance itself if it has to

11:12 - High alkalinity is more likely to cause scale than high calcium hardness

14:35 - Picking the right calcium hardness level

18:45 - Our thought process behind these numbers

22:46 - What is calcium hardness, specifically?

27:10 - Conclusion

 

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Published 2023-06-21

Understanding Bromine (w/ Terry Arko)

31 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:46 - Eric's nostalgia for the bromine smell, and collegiate swimming

04:02 - Halogens create salts

05:29 - Recharging bromide ions into HOBr

06:51 - Chlorine vs. Bromine

09:15 - Bromamines

10:55 - Back to the bromine cycle, it's a two-edged sword

11:44 - Enough sodium bromide can convert a chlorine pool into bromine

16:57 - 3 types of bromine products

21:39 - Trihalomethanes (THMs)

24:16 - Bromates

27:57 - Is bromine compatible with chlorine?

29:21 - Wrap up

 

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Published 2023-06-14

Chemical Forecasting (w/ Tyler Mills)

24 min
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01:38 - Does your local distributor stock ALL the products you need?

05:56 - Freight minimums and group purchasing

12:28 - How to forecast chemical usage

14:51 - Distributors can forecast better than any of us

17:09 - Seasonal demands

23:00 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2023-06-09

Minimalism: Addition by Subtraction

19 min
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02:00 - What is traditional pool care?

04:36 - Pool chemical conflicts

09:08 - Contrast that with Eric's pool on the Orenda program

14:34 - Simplify, and subtract things from the water

17:26 - Success is a choice

 

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Published 2023-06-02

The Return of the King (w/ Harold Evans)

32 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:59 - Harold's global voyage

04:34 - Why Harold decided it was time to sell Orenda

07:03 - New advisory role

08:16 - Why HASA?

10:30 - Why chlorine and acid prices were increased

12:50 - Quality Control

14:13 - Control the controllables

16:53 - Why the 4x1 returnable model makes sense

19:51 - Education will continue to expand

22:31 - New email address for complaints and feedback (coming soon)

25:35 - Want grace? Then give grace.

29:04 - Looking forward with gratitude

 

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Published 2023-05-25

Clean water with a slice of Humble Pie

25 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:39 - Fixer upper

03:23 - Why not just drain the pool and clean it out?

07:44 - Mistakes were made

09:46 - White bucket test...with a stupid, dangerous, distracted mistake

12:42 - Green pool cleanup process

16:06 - Churn it up, then shut it off and wait

16:23 - Quality water needs circulation and filtration

23:41 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2023-05-17

Top Ten things Kathryn has learned from Orenda

33 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:19 - Kathryn's background

03:48 - 10. Trade shows can be laid back

06:46 - 9. Paper still matters, but sharing digital marketing is effortless

10:22 - 8. Get training

11:52 - 7. Don't be a splash and dash pool pro

13:57 - 6. Measure your pool

15:37 - 5. Stop abusing trichlor tabs

18:59 - 4. Temperature matters

20:16 - 3. Obey physics, stop fighting them

20:53 - 2. Test and know your fill water

25:35 - 1. LSI first, range chemistry second

29:46 - Wrap up

 

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Published 2023-05-10

Breaking Bad Water

18 min
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00:00 - Introduction

02:05 - Bad water

03:20 - Can chlorine handle everything in a pool?

04:21 - Resetting water quality

06:28 - Green pool cleanups with algaecides

08:49 - Algaecides and their byproducts conflict with chlorine

12:25 - The Orenda green pool cleanup procedure

14:19 - Restoring water balance

15:34 - Cyanuric Acid is important for both water quality and water balance

16:41 - Orenda chemicals only break water quality

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Published 2023-05-04

Orenda App 4.0 - Updates, integrations, and the future

21 min
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00:00 - Introduction

02:48 - The evolution of our mobile app

04:36 - Cleaning up the code

06:17 - Cross-platform

07:40 - Bugs you have helped us find (and fix) so far

10:15 - Privacy, anonymous survey, and one infuriated app user

15:05 - Integrations with other software

19:34 - The Orenda app only exists because of people like you

 

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Published 2023-04-26

Team Orenda and our integration with HASA (w/Terry Arko)

31 min
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00:00 - Introduction

02:01 - Introducing Team Orenda

10:08 - Introducing Terry Arko, from HASA

13:35 - Terry's role at HASA

16:01 - Bob Lowry's Pool Chemistry Training Institute

17:08 - HASA and Orenda's education conflicts in some ways

22:58 - More in common than in conflict

26:56 - Wrap up. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2023-03-29

New company ownership, same tolerable podcast

41 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:50 - Orenda has been acquired by HASA

01:46 - Who we were, who we are, and who we hope to become

02:37 - How Orenda Started

07:04 - Some dude named Eric "decided" to join the company

13:20 - We still think and act like a family business

15:20 - Harold Evans, the "brilliant chemist"

18:41 - Eric the intern

22:00 - The pivot to education

25:50 - Why Orenda was acquired

29:52 - Why HASA?

32:00 - Breaking the news

33:27 - Building (and rebuilding) reputations

40:04 - Thank you to everyone who had a part in building Orenda

 

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Published 2023-03-22

Understanding Calcium Sulfate Scale Crystals

21 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:29 - How we first discovered crystals in pools

02:51 - What the definition of "scale"?

04:51 - onBalance already knew about calcium sulfate crystals

07:45 - What is calcium sulfate?

09:53 - Calcium sulfate precipitates at a lower pH

12:35 - Where do sulfates come from?

15:16 - How sulfates accumulate in pools

17:11 - How to prevent calcium sulfate scale crystals

19:31 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2023-03-15

How to Manage Pollen in Pools

20 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:47 - What is pollen?

03:44 - How does pollen spread?

06:21 - Pollen, tannins, and organic staining

07:25 - Spring pollen vs. Fall pollen

08:33 - How does pollen get in swimming pools?

09:10 - How to manage pollen in pools

11:20 - CV-600 and CE-Clarifier are great for managing pollen in water

13:06 - Are there phosphates in pollen?

15:23 - Summary

17:33 - Pollen season and bass fishing

18:49 - Wrap up. Thanks for listening!

 

 

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Published 2023-03-08

How to Contact Us at Orenda (the Right Way)

19 min
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01:33 - There are a finite number of hours in the workweek

03:10 - Phone help line and emails

07:18 - Voicemail

09:25 - Use our help center, ask.orendatech.com

10:36 - We are not legal expert witnesses, so please don't ask us to be

12:32 - Inbound contact requests

13:38 - If you do have to call us, please be direct

16:19 - Give us time to respond...and we will

16:46 - What a good phone call sounds like

18:22 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2023-02-08

What Water Wants

25 min
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00:00 - Introduction

02:11 - We are still relatively unknown, and so is our message

03:53 - We cannot teach water chemistry properly without first understanding water itself

05:08 - The equilibria of both water and air

07:37 - Traditional range chemistry

08:18 - Startup example - stop chasing pH

11:38 - Has range chemistry ever worked?

12:15 - Water doesn't have a voice....or does it?

14:19 - The truth is only the beginning

15:07 - LSI Balance requires CO2 balance with the air

19:35 - "It has always been done this way" doesn't mean it has ever been right

22:19 - Updating standards

23:38 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2023-01-27

Live from the NESPA Show in Atlantic City

11 min
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00:00 - Introduction, and introducing Shaun Mulhall, our Southeast regional manager

00:52 - Introducing Kathryn Varden, our Western regional manager

02:01 - Our top 5 topics on this podcast all have a common theme

05:49 - We got to teach two classes at the NESPA show, and 2 more in Spanish

07:21 - Jarred admits the podcast is actually worthwhile (but he still doesn't listen to it)

09:04 - Please give our podcast an honest rating on whatever platform you listen to it on.

10:36 - We have big plans for 2023

10:51 - Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2023-01-04

Stop Helicopter Parenting your Pool

14 min
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00:00 - Introduction

02:43 - What does "helicopter parenting" mean in regard to a swimming pool?

05:23 - Patience is a virtue in pool care

06:46 - Let physics do their thing

08:14 - Physical thresholds like pH ceiling take time

10:01 - One pool to focus on vs. many

11:27 - Make an informed plan to rule YOUR pool

12:23 - Closing. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-12-24

How to use the Orenda App

37 min
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00:00 - Introduction

01:22 - Exploring the main menu and features of the Orenda App

03:14 - Blogs, procedures and videos are all shareable on the app

03:50 - App settings allows you to select language, units of measurement, and toggle borate on/off

05:48 - How to use the Orenda Calculator

08:05 - Real-time LSI and color codes

08:28 - How the Orenda Calculator dials work

10:01 - How to get chemical doses

14:44 - Chlorine and phosphates are segmented below the LSI line because they do not impact LSI, but are used in the chemical dosing calculator

15:24 - Sharing results, and an example of a software bug

17:29 - Scenario 1: winterizing a pool

24:35 - Scenario 2: weekly pool service

28:20 - How to contain pH and maintain LSI balance all week (in other words, how to Rule Your Pool)

32:47 - Chlorine dosing

34:35 - Old habits die hard. Kill them anyway.

35:53 - Summary. Thanks for listening, thanks for using our app, and Merry Christmas!

 

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Published 2022-12-21

7/7 - What raises and lowers Phosphates?

14 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:59 - What are phosphates?

02:59 - Where do phosphates come from?

03:09 - Chemically raising phosphates

05:42 - Phosphates in drinking water

08:22 - Environmental factors that introduce phosphates

09:14 - What lowers phosphates in pools?

09:18 - Reverse Osmosis (RO) filtration

10:58 - Rain and snow dilution

11:31 - Phosphate remover products

13:11 - Summary

 

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Published 2022-12-14

6/7 - What raises and lowers Combined Chlorine?

16 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:35 - What is combined chlorine?

03:20 - What raises combined chlorine?

04:15 - Nitrogen sources in commercial pools

07:29 - Nitrogen sources in residential pools

08:34 - What lowers combined chlorine?

08:59 - Chemical ways to reduce combined chlorine

12:46 - Mechanical ways to reduce combined chlorine

15:03 - Summary - after nitrogen is oxidized...

 

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Published 2022-12-07

5/7 - What raises and lowers Total Dissolved Solids (TDS)?

9 min
Open

00:00 - Introduction to our new seven-part series

00:30 - What is TDS?

02:39 - Myths about TDS

04:32 - What raises TDS?

06:29 - What lowers TDS?

07:05 - Reverse Osmosis filtration

07:34 - Summary

 

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Published 2022-11-30

4/7 - What raises and lowers Cyanuric Acid (CYA)?

12 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:54 - What is Cyanuric Acid (CYA)?

03:33 - CYA controls the speed of chlorine

05:04 - Minimal CYA is our Fourth Pillar of proactive pool care

06:25 - What raises CYA?

08:18 - What lowers CYA?

11:05 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-11-23

3/7 - What raises and lowers Calcium Hardness?

11 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:47 - Happy Thanksgiving!

02:54 - What is calcium hardness?

03:50 - What raises calcium hardness?

06:49 - What lowers calcium hardness?

09:37 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-11-16

2/7 - What raises and lowers Total Alkalinity?

13 min
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00:00 - Introduction

00:35 - What is alkalinity?

02:45 - The purpose of alkalinity

03:42 - pH determines the types of alkalinity in your water

04:48 - What raises total alkalinity?

06:47 - Why alkalinity rises in pools with CO2 injectors

09:07 - What lowers total alkalinity?

11:58 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-11-09

1/7 - What raises and lowers pH?

16 min
Open

00:00 - Introduction

00:38 - Overview/recap of what pH is and what it means

02:30 - pH dogma in the swimming pool industry, debunked

05:24 - pH is about dissolved Carbon Dioxide (CO2)

06:37 - pH ceiling (when CO2 is equalized between water and air)

07:16 - What raises pH?

11:14 - What lowers pH?

13:48 - pH suppression

15:13 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-11-02

Intro - What Raises and Lowers specific chemistry factors? (7-part series)

3 min
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00:00 - Introduction to our new seven-part series

01:37 - We need to get back to the basics, thanks to the questions we are getting from you

02:38 - You are the reason we keep producing this podcast. Thank you for listening!

 

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Published 2022-10-26

Cold Water Startups

27 min
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00:00 - Intro

03:13 - The Orenda Startup™ is still about LSI in colder water. In fact, the LSI is probably even more important in colder water.

04:23 - Three main startup procedure differences to focus on when the water is cold (and getting colder)

05:22 - 1) More calcium hardness

08:34 - 2) When and where to add SC-1000

13:57 - 3) Let the cement dry for a few hours before turning the water on

17:49 - Postpone salt and acid treatments until spring

24:00 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-10-19

Podcasting with the Pool Chasers

34 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:21 - We met the Pool Chasers in their studio before COVID

02:20  - Podcasts are catching on, but Pool Chasers were one of the first

08:38 - Podcasting wasn't as accepted and understood 5 or 6 years ago. Now it's mainstream.

11:51 - There should be more podcasts, because it's a great medium for sharing information

16:10 - We don't talk about our products and that annoys Greg.

24:03 - If you want to be treated differently, act differently

27:20 - Podcasting is different from classes and trade show activities because it's not based on a finite window of time, and every week it can be new.

29:48 - Tyler thinks its cool that Orenda listened to them and took them seriously about podcasting. Because most people don't.

32:13 - We love hearing from our listeners on podcast@orendatech.com and ask.orendatech.com

32:51 - Summary.  Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-10-12

Swimming Pool Recovery After a Hurricane

19 min
Open

00:00 - Intro

03:08 - Let's start with pool damage, electrical and physical

05:26 - Electrical Hazards

06:31 - Contamination, physical and chemical

07:48 - Biohazards

09:20 - How to clean up a pool after a Hurricane

11:59 - Chemistry and chlorination after circulation is up and running

14:21 - Brief summary

16:44 - Drinking water contamination

17:42 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-10-05

Winter is Coming...Again (feat. Miguel Chavez)

32 min
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00:00 - Intro - We're doing it LIVE

01:54 - Orenda help line rings with people asking about winterization

03:19 - The type of safety cover affects water chemistry

05:20 - Winterization is like bear hibernation

06:21 - Sanitizing and Balance: two separate things

08:28 - Winterization kits miss the point

11:38 - Even sitting next to each other looking at the same laptop, Jarred is still somehow not looking at the show notes

14:24 - What is a winter watch program?

15:32 - Spring openings

19:54 - What are calcium crystals?

22:04 - Winter dust

23:22 - Swim Across America recap. Jarred survived...barely.

30:13 - Introducing our spanish podcast hosted by Miguel, Controlando la Piscina

30:56 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

 

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Published 2022-09-29

Here's to the Naysayers

41 min
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00:00 - Intro - Jarred is a Debbie Downer

02:23 - Jarred printed the show notes for this episode

03:17 - Criticism: Orenda downplays the importance of pH

07:09 - Criticism: Orenda advocates for alkalinity below 80 ppm, but that will destroy a pool

08:38 - Criticism: Orenda says 50 ppm CYA or less, but you can't hold chlorine for a week with such low levels

09:54 - Criticism: Phosphates don't matter, and Orenda just says they do to sell more PR-10,000

11:25 - Criticism: The Orenda Startup conflicts with other standard methods

13:38 - Criticism: The Orenda Startup doesn't work

14:40 - Criticism: Orenda's "education" is just propaganda for you to buy more products

17:23 - Criticism: Orenda likes calcium hardness too high

20:44 - Criticism: Orenda says calcium flakes from salt cells are calcium carbonate, but I was told they're calcium phosphate

22:32 - Criticism: Orenda was anti-borate, but now they've flip-flopped and are pro-borate?

24:17 - Criticism: The Rule Your Pool podcast is lame.  (We agree with this one).

25:07 - Criticism: The Orenda Calculator is inaccurate because it differs from other LSI calculators out there

26:29 - Criticism: SC-1000 is no better than other sequestering agents, plus it wipes out chlorine

28:19 - Criticism: Orenda is just another greedy chemical company

30:39 - Criticism: Orenda makes stuff up and calls it "research"

32:55 - Criticism: Orenda unfairly criticizes algaecides...they work so well

34:04 - Criticism: Enzymes don't "digest" because they aren't living

35:07 - Criticism: The LSI wasn't made for pools

36:34 - Criticism: Orenda says pH cannot be controlled...but my pool has a pH controller on it

39:49 - Closing.  Thanks for listening! 

 

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Published 2022-09-21

Good Enough is the Enemy of Great

29 min
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01:12 - People call us for advice, and most of them are wanting "the easy button"

04:54 - Old school thinking (good enough) prevents you from being great

06:45 - What is your added value to the pool owner?

11:04 - Traditional pool care

16:04 - Relying on chlorine to do too much

18:30 - Ways to add additional value

20:20 - Do not be fearful of educating customers if you're adding additional value

21:38 - Six bad habits to avoid

23:56 - Four Pillars (action steps)

27:16 - The Orenda Cult

28:32 - Thank you for listening!

 

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Published 2022-09-14

We Learned How to Plaster a Pool...

26 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:34 - Tempool plaster school

03:21 - We learned a LOT by physically plastering a pool

06:23 - Plasterers are artisans. There's both an art and a science to this trade

07:57 - We learned the entire process from waterproofing/prep, to plastering, to exposing

12:57 - Water to cement ratio. The mixer matters!

14:53 - The pro's at Tempool moved differently than us newbies

16:17 - Finishing steps - butter/cream removal

18:23 - Finishing steps - wet brushing/brooming, rinsing

21:05 - Exposure types: acid wash, advanced acid wash w/bicarb rinse, and Pool Wash™

22:50 - Passing the baton: shotcrete > prep crew > plaster crew > exposure crew > startup technician

24:25 - Watershape University class C3611, Essential Plaster Workshop, Nov. 12-13, 2022.

25:04 - Closing. Thanks for listening! We think we passed 50 listeners!

 

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Published 2022-09-07

Three Water Tests that are 100% Reliable, but not Precise

21 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:18 - Thermometers are reliable and accurate, but because they're not water tests, they're not included in our list of three tests in this episode.

04:19 - No test kit stays accurate and precise forever. All of them need to be maintained, used properly, calibrated and reagents need to be taken care of (and not expired).

05:13 - The White Bucket Test

07:43 - Our first white bucket test...green water out of the hose on a startup

10:23 - White bucket tests can be used to identify if there are metals in tap water too

13:47 - Melamine clouds with Cyanuric Acid (CYA)

15:20 - PR-10,000 clouds with phosphates of any kind (red cap test)

17:55 - Ruling out variables helps you narrow in on the cause of the problem

20:06 - Closing remarks. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-08-31

Plaster Finish Issues (w/ Bill Drakeley, Watershapes University)

23 min
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00:00 - Introduction with Bill Drakeley, Watershapes University

01:47 - Cement cracks

05:43 - Concrete issues cause plaster issues

07:55 - What are "structural cracks"?

08:48 - Calcium nodules

12:46 - Concrete core samples

15:45 - Lack of bonding / delamination

17:21 - Bill pounds on his desk when talking about concrete

21:13 - Start with the pool foundation when diagnosing plaster problems

21:58 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-08-24

Understanding Shotcrete (w/ Bill Drakeley, Watershapes University)

35 min
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00:00 - Introduction to Bill Drakeley

02:22 - Concrete 101: What happens when water mixes with dry cement?

04:02 - Concrete mix design (water:cement ratio)

05:18 - Compressive value (PSI)

07:49 - ACI and ASA minimum for pool concrete is 4000 PSI.

08:59 - How do you regulate PSI? Concrete mix design (water:cement ratio)

11:41 - Quality control

13:08 - Is waterproofing necessary when you have a proper, watertight concrete pool shell?

16:39 - Rapid-fire definitions

20:20 - Types of cracks

21:56 - Hydrating vs. Curing

29:15 - How to prep concrete before plaster

32:27 - Watertight vs. waterproof

33:42 - Summary: do your homework.  Thanks for listening!

 

 

 

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Published 2022-08-17

Cyanuric Acid (CYA) and Chlorine Strength

20 min
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00:00 - An extra-long intro, complete with Jarred's new microphone and some housekeeping topics.

01:24 - Housekeeping: We're teaching with Watershapes University. WU C3611, November 12 and 13 in Las Vegas: Essential Plaster Workshop. And we're participating in Swim Across America, September 24 in Dallas. You can contribute to our team at swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda.

03:38 - Check out the chlorine and CYA chart here: https://blog.orendatech.com/chlorine-ph-and-cya-relationships

04:55 - When you introduce CYA into the water, pH no longer controls the strength of chlorine (%HOCl)!!

08:23 - Chlorine strength is determined by the FC:CYA ratio. It's only a matter of time until health departments recognize this.

10:58 - At a high enough pH, OCl- will break away from CYA and can be destroyed by sunlight. Focus on your pH ceiling to avoid this fate.

13:50 - Simplifying the complex

15:36 - The Orenda program takes these overlapping factors into account, so you do not need to understand all of the chemistry. We've taken things into consideration for you. Just follow the plan and the chemistry will behave.

18:05 - Paradigm shifts are never comfortable

18:42 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-08-10

Pools Per Gallon | Chemical Efficiency

26 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:18 - Housekeeping: WU class 3611 at the Int'l Show, and swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda.

04:55 - The Orenda Philosophy

07:38 - Algaecides (except chlorine) leave behind long-term byproducts that will eventually conflict with chlorine

11:33 - Pools per gallon, starting with Orenda products

11:56 - CV-600/700 pools per gallon

15:45 - PR-10,000 pools per gallon

18:27 - CE-Clarifier pools per gallon

21:05 - SC-1000 pools per gallon

22:06 - Acid pools per gallon

24:47 - Changes to acid dosing in the 3.0 Orenda Calculator

26:04 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-08-03

Understanding Borates

18 min
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00:00 - Another long intro, reminding listeners about Swim Across America, and WU C3611 at the Int'l Pool & Spa show in Vegas this November.

03:34 - Orenda is neither pro-borate, nor anti-borate. We don't find them necessary, but we don't criticize those who use them responsibly either.

05:41 - Never exceed 50 ppm borate in your water, for toxicity reasons.

07:46 - What are borates?

08:49 - Bicarbonate/carbonate alkalinity and its pKa value of 6.14 pH.

09:52 - Boric acid/Borate and its pKa value of 9.2 pH.

11:22 - Borates buffer against the rise in pH by taking a hydroxyl ion (OH-). This is the opposite of what bicarbonate alkalinity does.

13:05 - Borate algaestat claims

13:52 - Borate water clarity claims

14:40 - Borate toxicity and availabiliy in California

15:40 - Use properly labeled products for their intended use

17:15 - Why borates are in the Orenda App? They impact the LSI.

18:10 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-07-27

Can't hold chlorine for a week?

32 min
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00:00 - An extra-long intro, complete with Jarred's new microphone and some housekeeping topics.

06:39 - There's a difference between using chlorine and losing chlorine.

09:01 - With CYA in the water, pH does not control chlorine strength, but at a high enough pH, OCl- breaks away from CYA and can be lost to sunlight.

11:42 - Chlorine demand is both the sanitizer demand and oxidant demand. Let's start with the sanitizer demand.

13:29 - Oxidant demand, starting with metals

15:35 - Nitrogen compounds

23:47 - Non-living organics

28:38 - Are you being proactive?

30:44 - Jarred's closing

 

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Published 2022-07-20

Why are LSI and chemical dosing results different in Orenda 3.0?

11 min
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00:00 - Intro

00:44 - Orenda 3.0 features new, improved formulas. Most of the update was about improving the formulas.

01:43 - The LSI reference chart is the basis for most LSI calculators.

02:52 - The old Orenda app extrapolated within the LSI dosing chart to be more accurate.

04:39 - The new Orenda calculator is more true to the Saturation Index, and that's why the LSI results will be slightly different than before. They are more precise now.

05:53 - Dosing calculator formula upgrades

07:20 - You can now select your preferred acid and chlorine types

08:26 - Dry chemicals are by weight, liquids are by volume. This is because dry chemicals of the same volume can have different weights.

09:40 - Use a graduated dry pool chemical scoop that shows you different lines for what one pound of each chemical is in volume.

09:59 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

 

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Published 2022-07-18

App Feedback and RIP Startup Barrel Platform

14 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:53 - Our annual meeting made light of some costly mistakes

02:13 - The two mistakes to explain are the premature Orenda 3.0 release and the Startup Barrel Platform

03:24 - Without customer feedback, we could not have found the bugs as quickly as we have. Your feedback is incredibly valuable!

07:13 - We are discontinuing the Startup Barrel Platform

07:27 - Giving credit where credit is due: Lupe, Dave, Dave, Molinari Pools, and PurAqua

10:16 - The platform became cost prohibitive, and even if we wanted to make more, we cannot reliably get the parts

12:27 - Too much of the platform was out of our control, and it is officially discontinued

12:57 - Summary. Thanks for listening, and thanks for your patience with Orenda and our mistakes.

 

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Published 2022-07-13

Orenda 3.0 | The new Orenda App Update

27 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:14 - Our audience is becoming massive

02:43 - We built this app as an investment in you. Paying it forward to help the industry and every pool owner

06:01 - We make our money on selling chemicals, but this calculator is for everyone, whether you buy our chemicals or not

06:36 - We insisted on this calculator being the most accurate pool calculator in the world

08:28 - Borate is now included in the LSI calculator

12:30 - New secondary readings

15:28 - The Mac-daddy of features: future alkalinity

17:29 - New toggles to select the type of chlorine(s) and acid you use

19:54 - Three versions of the app: Android, iOS and now the web calculator.

22:16 - The user survey when you first open the app is completely anonymous, and it helps us cater the app to our users.

26:16 - Summary...and Jarred's attempted coup-de-tat. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-07-06

ask.orendatech.com | The Orenda Help Center

9 min
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00:00 - Intro

00:36 - The URL is ask.orendatech.com

01:55 - We get a ton of phone calls, and most of them are questions we get every week.

02:35 - Don't see your question answered? Submit your question at the top of the web page.

04:04 - Jarred asks a question we actually haven't yet answered, and shows how to submit a question.

08:12 - The help center can be found from anywhere on our website, using a link in both the header menu and the footer of each page.

08:29 - Summary - thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-07-01

Different Types of Phosphates

13 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:42 - Orthophosphates (PO4) are the building block of phosphate compounds

03:58 - Inorganic phosphate types

05:07 - If PR-10,000 clouds, you are watching it remove phosphates from water

05:48 - Tests can be decieving, and inaccurate. And they only measure orthophosphates.

07:52 - When PR-10,000 reduces less than expected, it removed phosphates that did not show up on your test kit

08:54 - Try to avoid chemical conflicts 

10:21 - Phosphates in drinking water

11:59 - Jarred gets to do the outro. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-06-22

CYA, Water Temperature, and Chlorine Loss

15 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:03 - There's a difference between using chlorine and losing chlorine

02:11 - Chlorinate and cross your fingers

03:59 - Does warmer weather really mean you need more CYA to protect chlorine from more intense sunlight?

08:49 - CYA's other impacts

09:43 - High pH actually does increase chlorine loss, because OCl- dissociates from CYA in higher pH water

12:07 - Jarred did not read all five bullet points in our extensive show notes

13:53 - Low-energy Jarred summarizes for the fans

14:32 - Summary - Thanks for listening! And check out our brand new Help Center: ask.orendatech.com

 

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Published 2022-06-15

Why Orenda's Advice sometimes Conflicts with Industry Standards, Textbooks and Pool Stores

25 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:51 - Not all of our advice conflicts with industry standards and texbooks. We just don't believe in the dogma of range chemistry.

02:56 - What is range chemistry?

04:31 - Water never read the textbook. Just like Jarred.

07:07 - Why are people more concerned with scale than etching?

08:39 - Aggressive water looks good. Just like Jarred.

16:08 - Being blind to the LSI is expensive, and it means you're going to fight your water to conform to ranges it doesn't want to conform to.

19:09 - Chasing pH is not profitable, nor is it beneficial for the pool.

21:07 - Be proactive and Rule Your Pool. Regardless of what the pool store's software says, because it's based on range chemistry. You can be focused on the LSI, which reigns supreme.

23:22 - Jarred's summary: we teach this way because it helps you treat water the way water wants to be treated.

23:50 - Eric's summary: Prescription without diagnosis is called malpractice. (Jarred's summary was better).

 

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Published 2022-06-08

How to use SPA-500

7 min
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00:00 - Intro

00:52 - What is SPA-500?

02:50 - How to use SPA-500

04:41 - Recap

05:51 - Closing the shortest episode we've ever done. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-06-01

How to use CE-Clarifier

13 min
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00:00 - Intro

00:27 - What is a clarifier?

01:28 - What is chitosan?

04:38 - What does CE-Clarifier do?

06:08 - How to use CE-Clarifier

09:23 - Frequently asked questions

11:49 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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How to use CV-600 and CV-700 Enzymes

16 min
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00:00 - Intro

00:58 - What is an enzyme?

03:28 - Enzymes vs. sunscreen

05:54 - How to use CV-600 and CV-700

08:29 - Enzyme dosing

10:47 - Differences between CV-600 and CV-700

12:44 - FAQs

15:11 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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How to use SC-1000 Scale & Metal Control

21 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:56 - What is a sequestering agent?

05:55 - What is a chelating agent?

08:09 - How to use SC-1000

09:14 - We are not in the stain-removal business. But SC-1000 can help soften and remove scale.

12:49 - SC-1000 considerations to be aware of. First, water temperature matters.

14:27 - Second consideration: SC-1000 wipes out chlorine until it can do its job.

16:32 - SC-1000 is biodegradable, but that requires bacteria that cannot survive in a swimming pool. So it has staying power.

17:33 - Frequently asked questions about SC-1000

19:24 - Wrap up, summary, and thanks for listening!

 

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How to use PR-10,000 Phosphate Remover

16 min
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00:00 - Intro

00:58 - What is PR-10,000?

01:32 - What does PR-10,000 do in the water?

04:26 - Heavy doses of PR-10,000 are easier when using enzymes, because oils and organics can stick to the dust fallout and make it more difficult to clear the water.

05:31 - How to add PR-10,000

07:07 - Higher doses (special doses) of PR-10,000

10:45 - Frequently Asked Questions

14:57 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-05-04

How to do an Orenda Purge, and Why

23 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:23 - What is an Orenda purge? It is a deliberately strong initial dose of enzymes and phosphate remover (and sometimes chelant) to reset your water. It gives your water the most reduced chlorine demand possible.

03:58 - The entire purpose of an Orenda Purge is remove chlorine-resistant contaminants. 

07:45 - SC-1000 chelates metals and prevents oxidation and staining, but most pools do not need it every year. It will stay in for a very long time.

09:00 - PR-10,000 is a fast-acting, one-and-done product. It leaves behind no residual. And it works very well in tandem with enzymes.

10:42 - Every Orenda purge is based on CV-600 or CV-700 enzymes. Enzymes are the foundation of the purge.

12:51 - Oils and organics float, while dust falls. So if you are trying to clear the pool after using PR-10,000, use enzymes so that oils do not keep the dust suspended in the water.

17:01 - CV-600/700 and SC-1000 purge doses are the exact same amount: one quart per 10,000 gallons.

21:13 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-04-27

How to Adjust Alkalinity

26 min
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00:00 - Intro

00:58 - To reduce alkalinity, use acid. But there are a few types of acid. And what, exactly, does acid do? It converts alkalinity into carbonic acid (dissolved CO2).

04:17 - The amount of dissolved CO2 in your water determines the pH.

04:36 - Clarifying "carbonate alkalinity" vs. "total alkalinity". 

07:45 - The Orenda App adjusts alkalinity automatically for you when you update the CYA level.

08:45 - How to actually add acid to reduce alkalinity: do not column pour! Dilute dilute dilute.

13:55 - How to deal with tap water with high alkalinity (150+ ppm) or very high alkalinity (200+ ppm).

17:16 - Reduce alkalinity slowly. Do not remove more than 20 ppm at a time. Aim for 10-15 ppm of alkalinity reduction at a time. The more dilution, the better.

18:12 - To reduce risk of 'tanking the pH' while reducing alkalinity, aerate the water. And there are other ways of stirring up the water without circulating it through the system.

20:00 - How to raise alkalinty: Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) and Sodium carbonate (soda ash). Bicarb is more appropriate for raising alkalinity because it barely raises pH, whereas soda ash will raise the pH significantly for the same alkalinity addition.

23:49 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Swim Across America (w/ Rob Butcher)

40 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:23 -  Introducing Rob Butcher, the CEO of Swim Across America

02:02 - Who is Swim Across America? 2022 is the 35th anniversary of SAA.

05:52 - The boat for the original swim sank, and it's still on the bottom of the Long Island sound.

10:06 - Fighting cancer is personal to Rob.

12:32 - The first Intermission in RYP Podcast history. We hereby invite you to join our team.

16:26 - The energy of a SAA swim is incredible.

19:29 - When SAA makes a gift to a cancer institution or hospital, SAA has a scientific and medical board who helps decide where best to allocate those funds. In particular, patient research for experimental, cutting edge treatments.

29:39 - Olympic swimmers show up at almost every swim, and they volunteer their time to be there. In fact, they pay to swim and help raise money.

31:49 - We lost an employee last week, Kelly. We want to honor her and she is already sorely missed. She kept our business running and made sure we were able to ship on time, even during the supply chain chaos of COVID. By the time she found out she had cancer, it was too late. It had already spread everywhere.

 36:10 - SAA is directly in our industry. The pool industry is predicated on the fact that people need to learn how to swim. It's a life skill.

37:26 - Not many people in the industry were competitive swimmers. But you don't have to be a swimmer to be a part of this. You can volunteer, donate, and tell others about it. We'll swim on your behalf.

Join your own event, or join our team. It's 100% tax deductible. Thank you for listening!

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Published 2022-04-06

Spring Cleaning

30 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:01 - Two categories to talk about: year-round uncovered pools, and pools that were closed/covered/winterized.

09:57 - What should be done first? Remove debris.

13:32 - What sequence of operations should you follow? In what order?

17:35 - One-stop openings are more challenging, but still doable.

18:13 - Have mercy on your pool company. It's beyond hectic.

24:00 - SC-1000 throws a wrench in the opening process because it wipes out chlorine. When should you add it?

29:20 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-03-30

How to Implement the Orenda Program

48 min
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00:00 - Intro

03:12 - What is the Orenda Program? It's a philosophy, not a list of products.

04:45 - The history of Orenda

10:42 - It's never profitable to be reactive. Being proactive is much better.

12:42 - No chemical conflicts

21:05 - No long-term byproducts left behind

26:19 - What is an Orenda pool? What does that mean?

27:54 - Ten Steps to implement the Orenda Program

35:52 - Recap of steps 1-3: dilute as needed, establish higher calcium hardness and reduced total alkalinity levels.

36:19 - Steps 4-6: Purging with Orenda products

41:50 - Steps 7-10: Clean the pool, balance the LSI, chlorinate

46:30 - Jarred's summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-03-23

What Causes Calcium Hardness to Change?

12 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:29 - The amount of calcium carbonate is calcium hardness. How saturated that calcium carbonate is is measured using the LSI.

02:45 - If calcium rises, it's coming from somewhere. If calcium falls, it's going somewhere.

03:21 - What increases calcium hardness?

05:03 - What reduces calcium hardness?

07:02 - Evaporation and accumulation

08:53 - If the calcium seems to move much more than it should, it's probably a faulty test

10:16 - Two-breath recap. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-03-16

How Salt Chlorine Generators Actually Work

26 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:07 - Giving credit where credit is due

02:25 - Saltwater pools ARE chlorine pools

04:13 - Salt (NaCl) dissolves in water and the sodium (Na) separates from chloride (Cl-). That chloride is what the salt system converts into chlorine

04:43 - What a salt cell is and how it works

08:45 - Electrolysis converts 2Cl into Cl2, and Eric attempts to read through the three chemistry formulas in order...

13:51 - Because Hydrogen gas (H2) does not dissolve, it bubbles off and creates aeration, which leads carbon dioxide (CO2) to also leave, which raises the pH

17:00 - All of this chemistry depends on having enough conductivity in the water

17:49 - Two factors drive conductivity: water temperature and salinity

22:45 - Summary of the episode in just 3 breaths. Thanks for listening!

 

 

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Published 2022-03-02

Preparing for Spring Openings in 2022

19 min
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00:00 - Intro

00:59 - What is 2022 going to look like? What can we expect with the supply chain shortages?

05:10 - What can you do NOW to make openings smoother in a few weeks? 

08:57 - Most pools with mesh covers (or no covers) will have lower calcium and higher pH than they winterized with.

12:55 - A hard reset in the spring is a very good practice. What can you decide to remove from your water?

16:22 - We can start removing phosphates and non-living organics now. Addressing metals will have to wait until the water is warm enough. 

17:50 - A hard reset puts yourself and your customer in the most advantageous position going into the season.

18:36 - Summary - Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2022-02-23

The Power of Standardizing Pool Chemistry and Practices

52 min
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00:00 - Intro....by Jarred?

02:35 - What is a Standard Operating Procedure (SOP)?

07:34 - The root of the word "decide".

17:18 - When people do their own thing in a service business, they are incentivized to cover up their mistakes.

21:07 - Collective intelligence

24:00 - Step 1: Gain control of CYA levels.

27:20 - Step 2: Create an LSI floor (foundation) with calcium hardness, and a ceiling with total alkalinity.

34:23 - Step 3: Write down your clearly-defined SOP for chemistry and behaviors. Written down processes, such as using a measuring cup and diluting acid, using a thermometer when you test water, etc.

36:08 - Step 4: Purge and remove contaminants. Decide to remove non-living organics and phosphates from the water.

38:54 - Step 5: Track it. Without documentation, it makes it harder to notice deviations from the baseline.

41:46 - Benefits of standardization: Brand benefits

43:39 - Benefits of standardization: Personnel substitutions are easier

45:57 - Benefits of standardization: Problems will stand out sooner

47:17 - Benefits of standardization: Collective intelligence

47:58 - Benefits of standardization: Reduced employee turnover

48:52 - Benefits of standardization: Better forecasting, which in turn allows for bulk purchasing discounts

50:11 - Summary - Thank you for listening!

 

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Ways to Reduce Employee Turnover

26 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:43 - Swimming is an individual sport AND a team sport. Individual athletes racing the clock are part of a bigger team. This translates to pool companies as well.

04:02 - Let's focus on people. Not the job, not the skills, the people. People are always the most important aspect of a business.

04:32 - The benefits of a baseline, such as water chemistry minimums. Standards lead to collective intelligence, the team becomes more cohesive.

10:09 - Build a family and team atmosphere. Gather input from employees. They know things you do not.

10:45 - A reward system within the team, i.e. "Mojo" the monkey.

13:41 - Involve the homeowners in appreciation of your employees too. Example: Southwest Airlines 'kick-tails'

17:47 - With more profitability comes opportunities to clean up the brand. Better uniforms, cleaning the trucks, etc. Everyone wants to take pride in their work.

19:25 - Increasing the margin for error also helps keep employees. Example: customer adopted the Orenda program and noticed their employees were starting with some 'early wins' and getting compliments early on. More room for error means less frustration when learning.

23:24 - Training is available all over the place. Orenda has Orenda Academy, this podcast, over 100 blogs, videos and procedures too. But other companies do too. Manufacturers want to train your people.

24:15 - Summary: Let your team build a healthy culture, once you have established a baseline and a family/team atmosphere.

 

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Published 2022-01-19

Organic Staining and Tannins

22 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:44 - Drinks made from plants have natural color from Tannins. Wine, coffee, tea, etc.

06:10 - Nothing replaces the importance of physically cleaning organics out of the pool. Leaves, acorns and other droppings will overwhelm chlorine if you do not regularly remove them.

10:25 - Tannins can be soaked out of decaying organics. They either stain the surface or discolor the water, or both.

12:48 - If you don't clean off mesh covers, decaying organics will release tannins into the pool below the cover. It's not pretty.

14:20 - Cleaning up tannin stains and discoloration mostly involves chlorination. But is chlorination the most efficient way of handling tannins? Not in our opinion.

15:58 - CV-600 and CV-700 enzymes are awesome for handling tannins. Enzymes devour them.

19:05 - How can you identify if it's an organic or metal issue?  You can do the white bucket test. Scoop some water into the clean white bucket and add a bit of liquid chlorine.  If it clears up, it was either algae or tannins (organics). If the water gets darker, it's metals.

21:03 - Summary. Thanks for listening! If you have questions or requests: podcast@orendatech.com

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Published 2022-01-05

Uneven Carbonation & other Plaster Discoloration | Calcium Issues, pt. 5

31 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:49 - Most people mistake this problem for scale. But it's not scale.

05:05 - This is a chemistry issue, not specific to brand of finish or pigment. This is not a cement or pigment failure, it's a water chemistry problem that can be prevented.

06:01 - How this occurs during plaster application, exposure and startup.

15:36 - How this occurs months or years later,  from aggressive water over time.

21:04 - When we get calls about these issues, the answer is not always good news. We are not in the business of pointing fingers at who caused what.

25:45 - Two causes of etching: not diluting acid, and using trichlor feeders, especially on pools with auto covers.

28:35 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

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Published 2021-12-29

Calcite Crystals | Calcium Issues, pt. 4

37 min
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00:00 - Intro

04:18 - Calcite crystals are not the same thing as scale

10:49 - Jarred describes photos of crystals

14:18 - Jarred explains how to prevent crystals, and explains it better than Eric. Well done, Jarred.

25:16 - We know of 4 types of crystals. Each has a different difficulty of removal.

32:35 - Jarred summarizes, and summarizes better than Eric. Now you're just showing off, Jarred.

 

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Published 2021-12-22

Calcium Nodules | Calcium Issues, pt. 3

21 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:00 - Look up "nodule" on blog.orendatech.com, and you will find articles that show photos of calcium nodules. You can also do an online search of nodules and find plenty of information.

04:32 - This is the Orenda podcast, and we believe you should hear both opinions on nodules.  First, the NPC's position.

08:08 - Now, the onBalance position.

12:42 - Both sides acknowledge nodules are not scale. They are minerals from within (or behind) the plaster surface that come to the surface.

17:12 - Water chemistry itself cannot stop nodules once they've started. They are not chemistry problems, in our experience. They are a physical problem with structural weaknesses in cement.

20:12 - Summary - thanks for listening! If you have comments or requests for the show, our new email address is podcast@orendatech.com.  

 

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Published 2021-12-15

Carbonate Clouding and Dust | Calcium Issues, pt. 2

38 min
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00:00 - Intro

00:36 - Welcome to the team, Ryan Rickaby!

01:20 - Review of calcium hardness (amount of calcium carbonate) vs. LSI (saturation of calcium carbonate)

04:30 - Soda ash clouds the water instantly

12:10 - Sharing Eric's screen (alkalinity equilibrium), which can be found on the Orenda Blog, search for Alkalinity

14:21 - When the pH is high enough, carbonate ions (CO3- -) perfectly match with calcium ions (Ca++) to form calcium carbonate (CaCO3).

19:10 - If you put 11+ pH soda ash into the water, it will convert bicarbonate into carbonate, on top of the sodium carbonate you just added, which forces an LSI violation locally. So adding soda ash should be added slowly, and pre-dissolved.

19:56 - The cloud, it either gets filtered out, goes back into solution when the chemistry normalizes, or it precipitates out as dust.

20:27 - Plaster dust

26:52 - Carbonate clouding

30:12 - Winter dust

34:52 - Summary - Thanks for listening!

 

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What is Scale? | Calcium Issues, pt. 1

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00:00 - Intro

01:57 - Definition of scale: Scale is the hardened deposit of a calcium compound that has precipitated out of solution. 

02:30 - Analogy of sugar in a drink. This analogy explains the difference between the saturation of calcium carbonate (LSI), and the amount of calcium carbonate (calcium hardness). 

06:33 - Calcium carbonate (CaCO3) is the most common form of scale, by far. But there are other forms of scale: calcium silica, calcium sulfate, calcium phosphate, and probably some other obscure ones we have yet to encounter. They are more difficult to deal with.

12:35 - The same amount of 'sugar' (calcium carbonate) can be too much, too little, or just right, depending on other factors in the LSI. The key here is that scale falls out of solution when the water is oversaturated. Carbonate scale occurs over +0.30 LSI.

16:10 - When you see scale in your pool, it will always be in the hottest places first. In the case of carbonate scale, it will be in the highest-LSI areas first. Primarily a salt cell or heater. Flakes in salt cells occur because of a localized LSI violation in the salt cell.

22:08 - If scale is not on plastic fittings, the face of tile, lights, etc., it's not scale. It must have come from the cement, not the water.

25:46 - To chelate or sequester, the water needs to be warm enough (~65ºF or warmer), or else the chemicals will not activate. The warmer the water, the faster these chemicals work.

29:06 - How to remove scale

32:28 - Summary. Thanks for listening! Stay tuned for the next four episodes in this series of calcium issues.

 

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Published 2021-12-01

Draining and Diluting a Pool

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00:00 - Intro

01:42 - Dilution is not always the solution. But it can be the most practical answer to get certain chemistry levels reduced.

06:54 - Evaporation will not lead to dilution, because the dissolved solids stayed behind. Things will accumulate because tap water adds more dissolved solids to the water.

07:09 - Dilution is not so much about high Total Dissolved Solids (TDS), it's about what's in that TDS.  Specifically high cyanuric acid, and high calcium hardness.

09:55 - You don't have to dilute all at once, it can be done over several weeks or more. You can also let nature dilute it for you (rain and snow).

12:40 - If your chemistry is preventing you from maintaining LSI balance or having proper sanitation, draining and diluting might help you simplify your chemistry. Draining/diluting is much better than throwing a whole bunch of other chemicals in the water.

15:37 - Summary - Dilution is a good thing in many cases, but it's not always necessary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2021-11-17

Ways to suppress pH from naturally rising

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00:00 - Intro

02:01 - Recap of Henry's Law of differential pressures. Any gas dissolved in a liquid will equalize with that same gas above the liquid.

04:36 - If you exceed the pH ceiling, the atmosphere will literally push CO2 back into the water.

04:57 - Where does CO2 come from when adding acid? It converts bicarbonate into carbonic acid (dissolved CO2).

07:50 - We don't want bicarbonate ions to convert into carbonate ions (at 8.3 pH or higher) because carbonates are attracted to calcium ions, creating calcium carbonate.

12:12 - How can we stop the rise of pH? How can we suppress pH?

12:39 - Analogy of the beer: what can you do to stop the beer from going flat? Think of it that way. How can you stop (or slow) the loss of CO2?

16:36 - Three categories of ways to suppress pH: cover the pool, chemically suppress it (acid feeder, CO2 injector, trichlor chlorine), and have very low alkalinity or high CYA to lower the pH ceiling.

18:53 - Explanation of sense-and-dispense acid feeders, and the challenges with them (overfeeding acid).

23:36 - If you don't have any of those reasons listed, but your pH is still being suppressed, please contact us! Teach us so we can learn more about this topic.

26:25 - Conclusion. Thanks for listening!

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Water Chemistry Testing: 201

28 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:11 - Things can go wrong in water testing, so let's review the common mistakes and interferences.

05:07 - Reagent expiration dates mean nothing if the kit is not stored properly. All test kits have a finite shelf life.

09:10 - Bleaching reagents (very high chlorine) can distort other tests too.

15:08 - Cold water interferes with accuracy too. Warm the sample before testing.

18:48 - Mistakes are common when collecting a sample and taking it somewhere. Grab the sample from below the water surface, fill the clean bottle completely without a big pocket of air in it, and then take it directly to the pool store or lab. The longer you wait, the less accurate the test results.

23:29 - A few other items: lighting is important for color comparison tests, and if you notice something is way off, test again and examine your test kit for problems. Practice, practice, practice.

26:49 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Water Chemistry Testing: 101

29 min
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00:00 - Intro - Joe's back!

01:44 - Water chemistry testing is important because without it, managing swimming pools well becomes impossible.

05:55 - Water testing is not difficult, but it takes practice and some effort to get good at it. It helps to keep a log of your test results!

06:31 - How often should you test? It depends on the factor(s), but some should be every week, other should be once a month. Free chlorine may be a few times a week in some cases.

13:10 - If you track your results, managing your pool becomes easier because you will notice some trends and you can predict where your water will go.

15:36 - There's one more factor that isn't measured with a test kit that is very important: water temperature.

20:17 - There are many different ways to test the water. What type of kit is right for you?

24:00 - Take care of your test kit! Store it right, clean it, follow instructions, calibrate electronics (if applicable), and don't let reagents expire.

27:24 - Get good at testing if you're the one testing the water. It takes practice, but make the effort to be proficient in it. It's an important skill to have.

28:26 - Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2021-10-27

Introducing the Orenda Help Desk in Pool Service Software (PSS)

23 min
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00:00 - Intro

00:49 - Today's episode is about addressing problem pools in the most efficient way

02:02 - Introducing Gus Velez, founder of Pool Service Software

04:36 - PSS users are pool service professionals

07:35 - They had a few chemistry support tickets come in, and they are not chemistry experts. So they went out looking for a partner who can help their users with water chemistry. They found Orenda.

10:28 - When you call Orenda, it's most helpful if you give us the right info about the pool. Photos, chemistry history, age of the pool, etc.

13:47 - Users can just touch a button in PSS and it sends the pool's information–and the user's question–directly to Orenda.

16:32 - PSS also has a web-based dashboard, and business owners can also request Orenda support on behalf of their employees.

18:54 - This integration makes our job easier at Orenda, because we have the right information to answer questions faster.

20:59 - Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2021-10-20

PPM and PPB

14 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:59 - PPM = parts per million. It's the density of a given substance dissolved in water. It's the ratio of that substance compared to water. 1 PPM means the dissolved substance is one-millionth of the volume of water.

03:47 - PPM = mg/L. Converting from the metric system it makes sense.  1 cubic meter of water contains 1000 Liters. Each liter contains 1000 mL. Then we switch to solids, because we're talking about dissolved substances. 1 mL = 1000 mg.

07:00 - Brief overview of chemistry targets that use PPM 

10:16 - Phosphates are measured in PPB, not PPM. Parts per billion is one-thousandth of a PPM. 1000 ppb = 1 ppm.

11:56 - Conclusion. Thanks for listening!

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Published 2021-10-13

Concrete Pool Shell Problems | Weepers, Efflorescence, and Calcium Nodules

30 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:54 - Water chemistry did not cause these problems. These are structural issues.

03:54 - Three main problems: weepers, efflorescence, and calcium nodules.

04:09 - Weepers are active leaks in concrete, where water is flowing through concrete. Usually this is from behind the concrete shell due to groundwater pressure. But it can also be on a raised wall where the pool itself pushes through a weakness in concrete.

06:23 - Shotcrete is applied pneumatically, and the density of it is important. Minimum 4000 PSI.

08:07 - Concrete is not waterproof, it's porous.

10:02 - When water takes minerals with it to the other side, that's called efflorescence. Usually it's calcium, and forms calcium carbonate on the outside. It's often confused with scale.

12:57 - Calcium nodules are another form of efflorescence, but through pool plaster. They happen when moisture is trapped in or behind the cement. The disagreement in the industry is about how the moisture got there.

17:24 - In Eric's opinion, calcium nodules are either in the weakest places in plaster, or they're everywhere. It's almost always a waterproofing failure. Water pushes from the back side, in our experience.

21:03 - You can still have calcium nodules in perfectly LSI-balanced water, because nodules are really a form of efflorescence. 

24:16 - How do we prevent these problems? Prevention starts with proper shotcrete installation, and we strongly recommend waterproofing the concrete shell. At a minimum, the raised concrete parts.

26:09 - Proper waterproofing is strongly recommended by Orenda. And we know it's not always necessary with good shotcrete application, but why take the risk? Waterproofing is relatively inexpensive.

28:11 - If you have nodules from groundwater, but not active weepers, the best fix is still chipping out the plaster surface, waterproofing the pool shell, bond coating it, and re-plastering it.  It's expensive.

28:43 - Recap. Thanks for listening!

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Published 2021-10-06

Pool Covers and Winterization

27 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:35 - Jarred is wearing a Slytherin shirt. He's more of a Ravenclaw, TBH.

04:12 - Type of pool cover impacts your winterization chemistry (dilution, pH rise)

06:51 - Other types of pool covers that are not for winterizing: thermal and solar blankets. They are not safety covers and are not appropriate for winterization.

08:40 - Safety covers are designed to support a lot of weight to keep animals and people (and cars) out of pools.

10:54 - Mesh covers allow transfer of water and gas through it. This means dilution, and pH rise.

16:21 - Don't be afraid of high levels of calcium going into the winter (500+ ppm)

17:31 - Solid covers don't allow dilution and CO2 off-gassing

17:50 - Automatic covers can complicate things if your pool is heated a few times during the winter to swim, because the LSI goes from one extreme to the other. Surfaces can get destroyed because the water cannot correct itself.

22:08 - Solid safety covered pools do not need quite as much calcium as a mesh cover (400+ ppm), because it won't get diluted.

25:14 - Adjust chemicals at least a day before putting a solid cover on.  Let the pH naturally rise up before covering the pool.  If not, you need more alkalinity.

26:19 - Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2021-09-29

Closing your pool the Orenda way

20 min
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00:00 - Intro, reconnect with nature

04:48 - Water would naturally seek balance if you just shut your pool off. But that is not advised, because water would correct itself at the expense of your pool.

08:04 - Err to the high side of calcium hardness going into the winter.  LSI balance at the coldest temperature is the main priority.

08:23 - The second priority of winterizing is keeping the water clean. But winterization kits have nothing to do with LSI...they are mainly chlorine, algaecides and a sequestering agent. Do you really need them?

10:11 - You don't need to super shock going into the winter.  Just chlorinate a bit more than normal. As temps drop, less chlorine is needed.

10:38 - Sequestering agents and chelating agents (like our SC-1000) do not work in cold water. We don't include ours in our winterization protocol. You'd be better off adding it in the spring or during startup.

13:42 - The Orenda winterization kit does not exist.  Chlorinate normally, add some enzymes, then remove phosphates with PR-10,000 a few days before you close. You'll need to clean up the dust and clean the filter.

16:05 - Get a thermometer if you don't have one.

16:30 - Water is an incredibly powerful element in our world, so we should embrace its natural properties. If you don't get water what it needs (especially when cold), it will damage your pool in search of balance.

17:33 - Let your pH naturally rise. If you have a solid cover, give it a week for the pH to naturally rise before covering it. Don't close at 7.4-7.6 and immediately cover the pool, because CO2 won't escape.

19:27 - Thanks for listening!

 

 

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Published 2021-09-08

Wildfires and Swimming Pools

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00:00 - Intro

01:10 - Wildfires burn through forests and convert plant life into basic elements...primarily carbon, nitrogen and phosphorus.

02:15 - The closer you are to the fire, the more contamination will get in your water. If you can smell smoke, it's getting into your pool too.

03:45 - Prepare for the smoke, ash and debris when fires start. Be proactive.

03:59 - Rare instances: helicopters borrowing water from your pool, and fire extinguisher chemicals getting into your pool. Most likely this is a drain and refill.

05:47 - Nothing replaces physically cleaning out debris and cleaning the filter. Chemicals will not remove physical debris.

07:30 - Enzymes break down carbon non-living organics. Perfect for addressing carbon contaminants like smoke and ash.

08:51 - Phosphates should be removed too. Consider PR-10,000 or CV-700 enzyme + phosphate remover.

10:02 - Thanks for listening! Find more on our website blog or the 'articles' section of the Orenda App.

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Pool Party Chemistry

24 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:44 - Biggest difference between normal pool days and a pool party: bather load.

05:28 - Visit our Second Pillar of proactive pool care, about non-living organics.

08:21 - Holy trinity of pools: Circulation, Filtration, and Chemistry. All three suffer during a pool party.

13:08 - Prepare water and clean it up afterward. Homeowners have an advantage because they know when the party is going to happen, and they can prepare. Service professionals visit once a week, so they do not have that luxury.

17:27 - Best practices: handle the oxidant demand, communicate, and increase chlorine (not shocking, just raising it up to about 5 ppm). Also, clean strainer baskets and vacuum debris out of the pool ahead of time.

20:48 - Clean up the toys afterward so the pool can be vacuumed and cleaned faster after the party.

23:22 - Thanks for listening!

 

 

 

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Published 2021-09-01

Evaporation and Accumulation

19 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:21 - Evaporation is the process of liquid water converting into water vapor (gas). And this process takes energy (heat) to occur.

03:40 - Humidity in the air and the difference between air and water temperature (delta T) are the two main factors that determine evaporation rate.

05:03 - How evaporation affects water chemistry.  An average pool loses roughly its entire volume of pool water in a given year.

06:28 - Difference in temperature between water and air matters a lot. Cold air and warm water evaporates more. 

08:58 - Anything in tap water tends to accumulate over time (calcium, metals, etc.). Things not in tap water tend to stay consistent (CYA, salinity, etc.)

10:34 - https://blog.orendatech.com/evaporation-and-accumulation

11:27 - Evaporation scum/scale line on their tile, above the waterline. Not necessarily an LSI violation, because water leaves, so the saturation of CaCO3 goes up.

14:21 - Winterization involves draining water down, and the dilution throughout the winter drastically changes water chemistry.

16:52 - Analogy: glass of water. CH = 200 ppm.  Drink half, the CH does not change.  Let half evaporate, and the CH doubles.

18:19 - Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2021-08-25

Containing pH vs. Controlling pH

32 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:30 - Controlling pH is not possible. pH moves with anything that happens to the water. It's a reactionary chemistry.

04:07 - Many ways for you to balance the LSI. Use the Orenda App and find out what works for you. 

05:45 - Disclosure for commercial pool operators with pH limit of 7.8, and those with chemical automation/acid feeders.

10:26 - White rings around aggregate means the loss of calcium hydroxide (aggressive water stole calcium). From the ITZs.

12:33 - Example using the Orenda app. Let's do this together so you can see for yourself.

17:31 - What if we leverage Henry's Law, and use it to our advantage?

19:21 - Containing pH means never going RED on the LSI calculator, so the pH naturally rises to its ceiling (Henry's Law), and no further.

25:00 - Quick recap of why pH has to rise.  CO2 determines pH, and CO2 has to off-gas to equalize with CO2 above the water (Henry's Law). 

29:58 - Stop thinking of pH as something you can control. Focus on keeping the LSI balanced by containing pH.

31:00 - Recap. Focus on proper sanitization (FC:CYA) and your LSI. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2021-08-18

Calcium Flakes in Saltwater Pools

32 min
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00:00 - Intro

03:15 - Calcium flakes and other deposits in salt pools are very common. You're not alone if your pool has them.

05:00 - Our first question when someone calls about calcium flakes: "what is your alkalinity?"

10:33 - How salt cells work, from the inside out

12:16 - What does the salt cell do throughout the day? What to the percentages of output actually mean?

14:12 - Reversing polarity (changing direction of electricity) in between on/off cycles of salt cells. This fractures calcium carbonate into flakes, which blow into your pool.

14:53 - Most of the time, flakes are in your spa, or near your closest return to the equipment.

15:41 - Flakes tumble around in the pool and smooth out and look more like sno-kone ice.

21:31 - Solutions to this problem: balance your LSI, use SC-1000, and operate with lower alkalinity.

27:37 - Allow more circulation time. Most scale is formed right after circulation stops (warm, stagnant water with high pH).

30:08 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

28:21 - Thank you for listening!

 

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Published 2021-08-11

Combined Chlorine 201: How to reduce combined chlorine

27 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:15 - How do we get rid of combined chlorine? Do we just let chlorine do its thing?

02:49 - Two categories of how to reduce combined chlorine: chemically and physically.

03:30 - Two chemical options: breakpoint chlorination and supplementing chlorine with enzyme or a non-chlorine oxidizer shock. But enzymes and non-chlorine oxidizers do not directly reduce combined chlorine...only chlorine can.

15:06 - Physically removing combined chlorine is done with secondary systems.  Oxidizers and UV sanitizer.  Ozone and AOP are oxidizers that destroy both nitrogen compounds and formed chloramines. UV can only destroy formed chloramines.

23:43 - If you have a heavy bather load, a secondary system makes a lot of sense.

24:30 - Being proactive means finding the source of nitrogen and addressing that.  Check deck cleaners, any algaecide or other product containing ammonia (or ammonium) and keep them out of your pool.

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Published 2021-08-04

Combined Chlorine 101: What are chloramines?

30 min
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00:00 - Intro

00:59 - This will be complex chemistry, but very simplified.

02:07 - What is combined chlorine? What does chlorine "combine with"?

05:32 - Combined chlorine is an indicator of your chlorine falling behind, and the byproducts are the cause of bather discomfort, irritation and sickness.

06:00 - The pool industry uses the term "chloramines" generally to describe all of these combined chlorine byproducts.

12:06 - Chloramines, far more than pH, are behind bather discomfort, eye and throat irritation, etc.

16:12 - Even if you have a bromine pool, similar chemistry occurs (bromamines).

21:27 - There is no chemical way to get rid of nitrogen byproducts without chlorine combining there.  There isn't a natural enzyme or other chemical that can break down nitrogen compounds.

28:00 - Nitrogen in your water means your chlorine will be tied up dealing with it.

28:21 - Thank you for listening!

 

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Published 2021-07-28

Muriatic acid alternatives: Sulfuric Acid, Sodium Bisulfate and CO2

28 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:33 - We're in an muriatic acid shortage. Thanks, COVID.

02:21 - Two specialty acids: modified Muriatic Acids for less fuming: AcidBlue and AcidMagic. 

03:06 - Muriatic acid is a diluted form of Hydrochloric acid (HCl). It is 31.45% HCl or less.

04:14 - Sulfuric acid (H2SO4) is sold in 38.5% concentration. It is comparable in dosing to standard 31.45% HCl. It takes just 2% more sulfuric acid to equal muriatic by volume.

09:36 - Sodium bisulfate (NaHSO4) is sold in 93.2% concentration. It is also known as "dry acid", or in pool retail stores, "pH down" or "alkalinity down". It is safer to handle than liquid acid, but needs to be pre-dissolved before adding to the pool.

11:48 - Let's talk about sulfates (SO4--) or (SO3--).

12:05 - One gallon of 38.5% sulfuric acid leaves behind 47.1 ppm of sulfates in 10,000 gallons.

13:19 - One pound of 93.2% of sodium bisulfate leaves behind 9.6 ppm of sulfates in 10,000 gallons, plus salt.

14:58 - even in perfectly LSI-balanced water, if you have high enough sulfates, you can still have etching of cement. The sulfate ion (SO3--) can become the dominant ion and kicks carbonate off of calcium (Ca++) and create calcium sulfate.  Enough calcium sulfate can precipitate a sharp crystalline scale.

18:08 - The only way to reduce sulfates is to drain and dilute.  Unless you have Reverse Osmosis (R.O.) available. If you're going to use sulfuric or sodium bisulfate, you must regularly schedule dilutions to avoid sulfate problems.

19:53 - Sulfates and metals can combine to create that infamous 'rotten egg' smell. We think of it as sulfur, but it's usually iron sulfate or some variant.

21:08 - The third alternative for pH reduction is injecting carbon dioxide (CO2). It reduces pH but does not reduce alkalinity. In fact, alkalinity tends to rise due to excess lye from chlorine.

22:18 - Acid only introduces more CO2 (to reduce pH) is to burn through alkalinity and convert it into carbonic acid.  And Joe thought I was asking a trick question. There is no CO2 in acid.

24:39 - One pound of CO2 is equivalent to 32.8 fl.oz. of standard Muriatic Acid for pH correction.

27:08 - Summary

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Published 2021-07-21

Ways to optimize chlorine efficiency

24 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:57 - How to we make use of the limited chlorine we have?

03:33 - The chlorine shortage explained (by Joe, so it's better)

06:58 - Chlorinate at a time that direct sunlight does not hit the liquid chlorine. Either in shade or at night.

09:06 - Don't hoard liquid chlorine. It degrades over time, and don't be that person. Your peers and neighbors need chlorine too. 

10:22 - What else can be done? Secondary oxidation/sanitization can supplement chlorine.

12:34 - What about deliberately slowing down chlorine? (Intentionally raising CYA)

15:02 - If you raise CYA on purpose, you can do that, but you should remove phosphates and non-living organics to further optimize the slower chlorine that you have.

15:55 - Keep nitrogen compounds (like ammonia or urea) out of your pool. 

19:28 - If you're using algaecides, be aware of their byproducts. All of them have byproducts that will eventually conflict with chlorine and reduce it.

21:14 - Summary

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Published 2021-07-02

How to Use Less Acid: Stop Chasing pH

32 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:23 - Acid shortage.

03:18 - Why do we chase pH? Because the textbooks tell us to.

04:01 - Chlorine speed (%HOCl) and pH

06:18 - pH and bather comfort? Fake news.

07:03 - We have been conditioned to look to acid for help

09:31 - LSI first, range chemistry second.

10:24 - Containing pH instead of trying to control it

12:28 - Physics and pH rebound

13:42 - Equilibrium between water and air

15:09 - Henry's Law

18:26 - Carbonated beer

19:47 - pH ceiling

22:25 - Containing the natural pH rise

26:18 - Micro adjustments

28:09 - Chemical shortages are opportunities for positive change

30:18 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

 

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Published 2021-06-23

Minimalist Pool Care, with Harold Evans

43 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:20 - Orenda is more of a philosophy than a product line

04:12 - Chemical conflicts

14:43 - No long-term byproducts left behind (Papaw's Law)

19:29 - Minimalist pool care

31:40 - The love affair with chlorine and acid is a bad habit, and it has consequences

37:24 - A trusted source of information for all levels of pool owners/operators

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Published 2021-06-16

The Golden Rule, with Harold Evans

43 min
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00:00 - Intro

03:48 - Our strategy at Orenda: a minimalist approach, proactive pool chemistry

06:24 - What has changed in the pool industry culture?

09:00 - The aptitude in the industry has improved, and is essential for our future

09:47 - Old habits still dominate...but change is already occurring in a good direction 

14:03 - Cynicism in pool forums is hurtful to our industry

18:20 - Give the customer the service you would want if you were the customer

26:25 - Customers buy things online and ask service pros to install it

32:45 - Respect must flow both ways in a service relationship with a customer.

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Published 2021-06-09

How to Fix 3 Types of Green Pools

35 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:31 - Green water from calcium/alkalinity imbalance. Add calcium.

03:08 - Copper. Figure out where the copper is coming from (and stop it), then remove copper.

04:51 - SC-1000 is not a stain or metal remover. It is a chelating agent that needs to be used in conjunction with a citric/ascorbic acid and a metal filter/remover.

07:17 - Algae. Chlorine (HOCl) is the best algaecide. Orenda does NOT make any algaecides.

14:20 - Remove debris from a green pool, because piles underwater can protect algae from chlorine.

18:45 - Liquid chlorine is the preferred chlorine method for green pool cleanups.

19:46 - Reminder: never mix different types of chlorine!

23:25 - Green pool cleanup process (in order): remove debris. Netting, brushing, vacuuming. Super-chlorinate, add PR-10,000, then CV-600 or CV-700 enzymes.

26:21 - When do we add enzymes? Some add them same day, some add the next day. Both seem to work.

31:00 - Recap: first, figure out why your pool is green. It may not be algae.

33:23 - Thank you for listening!

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Published 2021-06-02

Why is My Pool Green?

28 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:43 - This pool wasn't an opaque green, it was translucent, tinging green.

02:09 - We know of at least three reasons pools turn green.

03:11 - We could safely rule out copper for this customer.

03:43 - Jarred is a popular guy (phone rings).

04:50 - The next day, the water was perfectly clear and blue, by increasing calcium relative to alkalinity.

05:48 - We don't know why, but if you have too little calcium hardness relative to alkalinity, the water can turn green (but clear).

06:18 - Dr. McNamara: Optimal ratio to inject CO2 is 4:1 (calcium to total alkalinity). If you're under 3:1, water can start to tinge green.

10:43 - The white bucket test (add chlorine to green water and observe color change)

18:08 - If you have algae taking over your pool, your algae is outpacing the killing rate of chlorine.

19:12 - Control what you can control. CYA and chlorine, phosphate levels (indirect relationship, but important). What really matters is your free chlorine and CYA.

24:00 - Wrapping up with two more topics:  CO2 feeders and Potassium Monopersulfate. Both can fuel algae growth.

27:21 - Summary: pool can turn green for three reasons: copper, calcium/alkalinity imbalance, algae.

27:55 - Thank you for listening!

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Published 2021-05-26

Pillar 4: Minimal Cyanuric Acid (CYA) | Orenda's Four Pillars

28 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:19 - What is CYA and why do we use it?

04:54 - Hot temperatures do NOT mean you need more CYA. Temp has nothing to do with sunlight protection and CYA. But chlorine does get used up faster because it works better.

10:52 - You do not need a lower pH to have strong chlorine (%HOCl) when you have CYA in your water.

12:00 - Percentages of HOCl without CYA are pH-dependent. With CYA, that no longer applies.

15:57 - Overstabilization = too much CYA relative to Chlorine

19:39 - Oversabilization is an accumulation problem, usually from stabilized chlorines Trichlor and Dichlor.

19:59 - One pound of trichlor in 10,000 gallons of water adds 6-6.5 ppm of CYA. It adds up quickly.

23:30 - How often should we be testing for CYA?

26:36 - Enroll in Orenda Academy™ for more information

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Published 2021-05-19

Pillar 3: Phosphate Removal | Orenda's Four Pillars

18 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:21 - Why do we need to remove phosphates? Do they really matter?

03:59 - What do phosphate test kits actually measure? 

04:40 - What are phosphates? And what variations of phosphates are there?

06:25 - Why are there phosphates in our drinking water? 

09:34 - Environment and bathers

11:03 - Most metal sequestering agents are phosphate-based

14:32  - Time your phosphate removal treatments appropriately

15:59 - You don't need a lot of phosphate remover. Or you could just throw a lot more chlorine at the problem if you ignore them.

16:18 - Growth/reproduction rate vs. killing rate of sanitizer(s)

16:46 - Phosphates will be within algae's cell walls. You may test low, but phosphates are present if you see algae.

19:09 - Thank you for listening!

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Published 2021-05-12

Pillar 2: Non-living Organics | Orenda's Four Pillars

19 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:54 - Chlorine's responsibilities

02:48 - More of an oxidant demand than a sanitizer demand

03:02 -  Three categories of oxidants: metals, nitrogen compounds, and non-living organics

03:19 -  What does oxidation mean?

05:11 - Nitrogen compounds: ammonia and urea, and combined chlorine

07:54 -The bulk of chlorine's responsibilities (over 90%) are non-living organics

10:23 - Secondary oxidizer systems (ozone, AOP, and hyper-dissolved oxygen)

11:21 - Our not-so-shameless plug: enzymes are used to supplement chlorine against non-living organics

13:49 - Enzymes are not required, but beneficial, especially with larger bather loads

14:26 - Wildfire smoke/ash puts organics, nitrogen and phosphates in your pool. That's a serious chlorine demand.

16:48 - Thank you for listening!

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Published 2021-05-05

Pillar 1: LSI Balance | Orenda's Four Pillars

27 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:32 - Origins of the Orenda App's LSI calculator

02:47 - Traditional "RANGE CHEMISTRY" vs. the LSI

04:31 -  Why pools in different areas may need different chemistry parameters to satisfy the LSI

05:03 -  What is the Langelier Saturation Index (LSI), and its six factors?

06:20 - What does the LSI actually tell us?

08:00 - Calcium hardness is NOT the leading factor that causes scale

16:18 - What does colder water temperature do?

16:54 - You can have ideal range chemistry and still be out of LSI balance

18:54 - Distinguishing between Carbonate Alkalinity and Total Alkalinity 

21:22 - The LSI reigns supreme, and LSI violations occur at a local level

23:45 - The action step for Pillar 1: Keep LSI balanced year-round

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Published 2021-04-15

4 Types of Chlorine | Trichlor and Dichlor

17 min
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00:47 - Where's Jarred? Oh yeah, we lost that recording... oops.

01:18 - "Stabilized" refers to two different things: sunlight protection for chlorine, and safer storage and handling.

03:10 - What are the dangers of having too much Cyanuric Acid (CYA)?

06:15 - Advantages of dichlor over trichlor?

07:49 - How much CYA does trichlor put into the water? Answer: 6 to 6.5 ppm per pound, per 10,000 gallons of water. Two 3" tabs = one pound of Trichlor.

09:23 - Do you even know how high your CYA is? If you're over 100 ppm, did you take the time to dilute the sample? And even if not, you should dilute your pool and lower your CYA regardless. It's already too high.

10:46 - Trichlor lowers (or suppresses) pH, and lowers alkalinity gradually. You need higher alkalinity in your pool to account for this.

12:25 - Never put trichlor in the skimmer!

 

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Published 2021-03-10

4 Types of Chlorine | Calcium Hypochlorite

32 min
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Of all types of chlorine, Calcium Hypochlorite (Cal Hypo) might be the strongest, but it is also the most volatile to handle. Even its fumes can rust just about anything in your garage or storage container. In this episode, Eric and Jarred discuss Cal Hypo and the strategies you may need to adopt to properly manage this powerful chemical. If you are having issues with cal hypo because of calcium drift up, high pH, or otherwise, our boys have your back. BE AWARE: Different types of chlorine are volatile if exposed to each other. They can cause fires and literally explode. Never store two different types of chlorine in the same enclosed area. Always handle with care and caution.
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Published 2021-02-24

4 Types of Chlorine | Liquid Chlorine/Sodium Hypochlorite

22 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:22 - Is bleach the same thing as chlorine?

04:04 - What is the pH of chlorine? And How does it affect the pool?

05:47 - What byproducts does bleach leave behind? Why does liquid chlorine increase TDS?

07:20 - What do you do differently in a liquid chlorine pool compared to a salt pool?

12:12 - How much CYA do you need in a liquid chlorine pool?

14:06 - Where should I keep my alkalinity when using liquid chlorine? Where should I keep my calcium?

19:06 - Final Tip: look out for TDS creeping up - liquid chlorine can leave behind more salt quicker than you'd think.

 

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Published 2021-02-10

4 Types of Chlorine | Saltwater Pools

22 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:50 - Salt pools are chlorine pools

03:06 - Chlorine handling disclaimer

04:25 - Salt chlorine generation byproducts

13:37 - How CYA affects saltwater pools

15:27 - Managing salt pools in the offseason

17:48 - Acid tip

18:22 - Final thoughts

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Published 2021-01-27

4 Types of Chlorine | Intro

10 min
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It's a short episode this week as we dive into a new topic: different kinds of chlorine. The next few episodes will focus on liquid chlorine, calcium hypochlorite, trichlor, and salt generated chlorine in that order. As a point of order, we should also tell you this: NEVER mix or store different kinds of chlorine together.
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Published 2020-12-23

Why Prices Are Going Up in 2021

34 min
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00:21 - Introduction

02:48 - How COVID affected the pool and spa industry

05:20 - How COVID affected the supply chain

10:11 - How COVID affects shipping

13:02 - What are pool service prices going to be in 2021

14:30 - Why are sanitizer prices going up?

18:43 - What are some alternatives to trichlor?

27:19 - Wrap up

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Rule Your Pool is a podcast by Orenda Technologies. This show was created for pool owners, operators, and service pros who want the best water quality possible. If you want to know what's really going on with your swimming pool chemistry, this might be the podcast for you. Each week, we'll cover a new topic related to swimming pools, water chemistry, or indoor air quality. With our help, you'll be able to rule your pool without over-treating it with chemicals and wasting money. 

 

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The Orenda Startup Procedure

50 min
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00:25 - How to do the Orenda Startup

03:28 - Day One

06:11 - Considerations if the water is trucked in

09:18 - How to balance the water chemistry for startup

12:24 - What to do if your alkalinity is low

13:22 - What to do when your alkalinity is higher than your calcium

16:52 - Why chelate calcium?

21:46 - How much water is flowing out of the barrel

24:15 - When is it appropriate to do a bicarb startup instead of calcium?

31:57 - Day Two

32:20 - Do I need to brush? (Yes.)

33:01 - adding enzymes

35:06 - the rest of the 30 days

42:21 - when can I add cyanuric acid and when can I add salt?

46:01 - Do I need the Orenda startup?

 

Rule Your Pool is a podcast by Orenda Technologies. This show was created for pool owners, operators, and service pros who want the best water quality possible. If you want to know what's really going on with your swimming pool chemistry, this might be the podcast for you. Each week, we'll cover a new topic related to swimming pools, water chemistry, or indoor air quality. With our help, you'll be able to rule your pool without over-treating it with chemicals and wasting money.

 

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Published 2020-11-25

Cement Cures Ugly | Orenda Startup Philosophy

35 min
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00:28 - Topic Introduction

02:33 - Setting Expectations of What A Startup Can and Can't Do

06:54 - What is Plaster Dust?

10:14 - Why You Always Need To Test The Tap Water

13:22 - Why are The First 30 Days So Important

17:42 - What Can't A Startup Fix?

20:55 - Why Are Hot Starts Bad?

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Published 2020-11-13

Winter Is Coming

30 min
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00:19 - Episode Takeaways

02:52 - How to Prepare Your Pool for The Winter

08:18 - Origin Story of the Orenda Winterization procedure.

11:50 - Considerations for Mesh Covers

17:32 - Considerations for Solid covers 

21:19 - Consequences for Bad Winterization

26:37 - How do you prevent a pool from turning brown and disgusting during the winter time?

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Published 2020-10-14

6 Bad Habits | Part 1

18 min
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02:16 - Bad Habit #6: Not Measuring Chemicals

06:05 - Bad Habit #5: Not Knowing The Volume of Your Pool

12:42 - Bad Habit #4: Not Checking the Pool's Temperature

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Published 2020-09-30

The LSI | Cyanuric Acid (CYA)

20 min
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01:09 Episode Takeaways

02:30 How CYA Affects the LSI

05:59 CYA and Alkalinity

09:20 Where Does CYA Come From

14:54 Why You Shouldn't Put Chlorine Tabs In A Skimmer

15:48 How Do You Reduce CYA?

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The LSI | Total Dissolved Solids

27 min
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01:03 Episode Takeaways

02:52 What does "Dissolved" mean anyway?

06:12 Mineral Systems: Just Sexy Metal?

06:44 There's a difference between being in solution and being in suspension

07:38 are phosphates part of TDS? 

09:36 TDS (total dissolved solids) Limits

12:01 What is "In Suspension"

14:19 Accumulation and Evaporation

16:25 TDS actually lowers the LSI 

22:02 TDS meters are not that expensive. (Total dissolved solid meter cost)

24:48 Wrap Up

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The LSI | Calcium Hardness

36 min
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01:01 - Episode Takeaways

03:12 - What does calcium hardness do for a pool?

05:58 - Calcium Hardness in Desert Climates

09:35 - Calcium Hardness Testing

13:56 - How Calcium Hardness Affects Scale

15:58 - How Much Calcium Does Calcium Hypochlorite Add?

18:07 - Advantages of High Calcium Hardness

20:35 - Calcite Crystals

24:43 - How To Lower Calcium Hardness

27:33 - How To Increase Calcium Hardness

33:54 - How Often Should You Test Calcium Hardness
 

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The LSI | Water Temperature

37 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:52 - Episode Takeaways 

06:45 - Demonstration of temperature's effect on the LSI using the Orenda App

11:16 - Why do pools get more damaged in the winter?

17:55 - How does water temperature affect the LSI?

21:08 - Temperature determines where scale forms

22:18 - Acid and trichlor damage

23:39 - Why do salt pools scale up so much?

27:39 - Why you need to dose  acid correctly.

29:50 - The Orenda Scale Removal Regimen

31:39 - Water temperature affects testing

 

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The Langelier Saturation Index (LSI)

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00:11 - Episode Takeaways

01:51 - Water Balance vs Sanitization

05:38 - What is the LSI

09:58 - The six factors of the LSI

11:56 - Water temperature: the most ignored factor?

15:17 - Total Dissolved Solids (TDS)  

18:20 - A (Very) Brief History of the LSI

 

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Understanding pH

37 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:22 - How Carbon Dioxide and pH are related

04:55 - What Causes a High pH in a Swimming Pool

05:06 - What is Henry's Law?

08:59 - What are the factors that make pH go down? 

10:10 - pH chart with common pool chemicals listed

15:48 - Controlling vs Containing pH

16:22 - Chart demonstrating CYA and pH relationship.

17:44 - pH and scale formation

18:42 - What makes pH go up?

23:18 - Henry's Law continued

27:24 - How to proactively manage pH

29:36 - Demonstration of proactive pH management using the Orenda App

 

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Understanding Alkalinity

33 min
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00:00 - Intro

02:27 - Alkalinity buffers against reduction in pH

05:27 - Where should my alkalinity be?

08:33 - How much acid does it take to bring a pool from 8.0 pH to 7.4 pH?

11:16 - What is Buffering Capacity?

14:40 - Sodium Carbonate (Soda Ash) vs Sodium Bicarbonate (Baking Soda)

19:03 - How to pH and Calcium interact?

19:52 - Hot Starts or Zero Alkalinity Startups

21:23 - Why testing your water is important

24:59 - The Orenda LSI Calculator

28:53 - How to run  a low alkalinity pool

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pH vs. Total Alkalinity, and Their Roles in Pool Chemistry

30 min
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00:00 - Intro

01:32 - What is pH?

02:30 - pH is an equilibrium

07-58 - Negative logarithm of Hydrogen

08:43 - Let's not try to control pH. Physics is going to raise the pH in swimming pools.

09:50 - Henry's Law of the Solubility of Gases

12:23 - Buy a pH probe to find out your exact pH.

12:37 - Your pH can raise from algae, vanishing edge pools, spas, spillover, or salt cell.

18:53 - Problems occur when pH lowers the LSI and water is starving for calcium

21:16 - What is Alkalinity?

27:38 - Adjusting alkalinity

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Introduction to Rule Your Pool Podcast by Orenda Technologies

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About Orenda Technologies  

Water is a precious resource, and we strive to make it clean and beautiful. Orenda has a philosophy of minimalism, and proactive pool care. Why be proactive? Because prevention is always easier than correction, and we want to help educate the pool industry and pool owners about it. The vast majority of pool issues are preventable, and that's why we published our Four Pillars of Proactive Pool Care.

For many years, Orenda was primarily a speciality chemical manufacturer, building a business on quality, professional-grade products and reputation. We have since evolved into an education company. We have invested heavily in building the pool industry's leading mobile app and dosing calculator, have a library of helpful videos, and a growing list of educational articles in our blog. In 2019 we released Orenda Academy, which is another free resource for anyone to learn more about pool management.

We want to deliver the best water quality possible, with the fewest chemicals. The Orenda line of professional grade, eco-friendly speciality pool chemicals help our customers get there. But our chemicals merely complement our program, which is a series of improved habits and behaviors to optimize water management.

Let’s stop guessing and “eyeballing it”, and instead dial in our behavior and habits. Orenda is here to help.

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