The Drop

Meg and Thomas sit down with Sharon Lokedi at Under Armour's HQ to talk about her recent Boston win, borrowing someone's watch, enjoying downtime and extra sleep, and a whole lot more.

Some amazing things went down at Cocodona, so we cover those from the road runners perspective, before diving into a wide ranging conversation regarding Sara Hall's new book (as well as other books), roasts of comedians and runners, and getting pepper sprayed in the face in Deep Ellum. Plus, more details on Summer GRIT and our contest to join us at Western States with Hoka.

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Believe in the Run and Hoka are bringing one lucky fan to join us at Western States! Stay with us in Olympic Valley as we host shakeout runs, tackle the High Camp challenge, run the legendary beer mile, and soak in every moment at the Escarpment and finish line of the most iconic 100-mile race in the world. Apply HERE to join us in June: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfRssHXBjPhvjNqV7achcoJkPwWTBIcKB7C5HJqKlz4NqpiGg/viewform

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LMNT

Summer hydration has never been better, because Lemonade Ice Tea is finally here! Crisp and refreshing, it delivers 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium, plus– 50 mg of caffeine, just enough for that extra boost. And if you're an insider, you can get the limited-edition Pink Lemonade. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

PILLAR

If you’re training hard, traveling to races, or just stacking miles week after week, you know how easy it is for your immune system to take a hit. That’s why we’ve been reaching for PILLAR Ultra Immune C. It contains a high dosage of Vitamin C (about 16-17 oranges worth in one scoop), which helps fight off illness and protects your body from the stress of intense training. Head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

Description: The trio talks about Cocodona. This time, it is after Alex has finished the race in under 100 hours! She gives us insight on her adventure as she is still processing the whole experience.Guest: Adam Copeland is the founder of Tantrums, a pack company that disrupted our favorite gear lists list year. While their flagship design, the Crest 6, still holds as one of the highest performing packs, there are new products on the horizon.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS:Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here:https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-dirt-division-x-soar

It's been an unruly ride, but it's time to say bon voyage to Spirit Airlines. While we're mourning that, we still found time to run in the Brooks Hyperion Max 4 and Ghost Max 4. Still, not nearly enough miles as our trail reviewer Alex, who is currently at mile 211 at the Cocodona 250 (at the time we're writing this). We talk about all that and more in this week's edition of The Drop.

Join us at Western States, apply HERE: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfRssHXBjPhvjNqV7achcoJkPwWTBIcKB7C5HJqKlz4NqpiGg/viewform

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LMNT: Summer hydration has never been better, because Lemonade Ice Tea is finally here! Crisp and refreshing, it delivers 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium, plus– 50 mg of caffeine, just enough for that extra boost. And if you're an insider, you can get the limited-edition Pink Lemonade. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

PILLAR: Recently, we’ve been taking PILLAR Triple Magnesium, and it’s been a game-changer for our sleep and recovery. WE take it about 30 minutes before bed each night which gives us great sleep and helps us recover better so we're ready to train again tomorrow.If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

SWIFTWICK: You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com

Description: Alex took on the challenge of Cocodona 250. Yes, a 250 mile race across the Arizona desert. She talks with Taylor and Reese who have some concerns and questions on motivation, tactics, and gear.

Guest: Brandon Crouche is the Product Merchandiser for Salomon North American. Taylor and Brandon talk about his career at Salomon, the development of the GRVL product, and how it all fits into the broader scope of Salomon as a brand.

SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS:
Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here:https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-dirt-division-x-soar

Thomas sits down with Dave Hashim, professional photographer, runner, and friend of the podcast. To see Dave's work, you can find him on Instagram at @dhash.

On Sunday, the sport of running and the art of marathoning was forever changed as Sebastian Sawe ran the first-ever official sub-2-hour marathon. He wasn't the only one to do it, of course, and they both ran in the Adidas Adizero Adios Pro Evo 3, the lightest race day shoe ever at 99 grams. We give our thoughts on the race and the past and future of footwear, as well as plenty of other running (and non-running discussion).

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SWIFTWICK: You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com

LMNT: Don't miss out on the sparkling goodness of LMNT, now delivered in a 12 oz slim can with four refreshing flavors: Pineapple Salt, Black Cherry Salt, Lemonade Salt, and Orange Salt. These tasty treats deliver 500 mg sodium, 100 mg potassium, and 30 mg magnesium. And don't forget to mark your calendar for the all-new Lemonade Iced Tea coming on May 6! Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

PILLAR: Collagen Repair is designed to support tendons, ligaments, and connective tissue - the stuff that takes a beating when you’re running day after day. PILLAR Collagen Repair is a smart addition to your routine, ensuring you stay healthy when you're working your hardest. If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or ⁠TheFeed.com/pillar⁠ and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

Alex and Taylor girll Reese after her first 100k finish! Reese just ran the Canyons 100k by UTMB, one of the most competitive races in North America. They talk travel, race strategies, and of course gear.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS:Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here:https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-dirt-division-x-soar

One if by land, two if by sea, twenty-six-point-two if by running from Hopkinton to Boston. We had a full weekend of activities from our Mount to Coast movie night to the Boston 5K to the New Balance Team Relay to the massive Adidas x Heartbreak Hill shakeout run. Also, a race on Monday as Meg went hard on the hills for the 130th edition of the Boston Marathon. We recap it all in this episode, so thank you to everyone who showed up and made it such a memorable weekend.

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SWIFTWICK
You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com

LMNT
Don't miss out on the sparkling goodness of LMNT, now delivered in a 12 oz slim can with four refreshing flavors: Pineapple Salt, Black Cherry Salt, Lemonade Salt, and Orange Salt. These tasty treats deliver 500 mg sodium, 100 mg potassium, and 30 mg magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

PILLAR
If you’re training hard, traveling to races, or just stacking miles week after week, you know how easy it is for your immune system to take a hit. That’s why we’ve been reaching for PILLAR Ultra Immune C. It contains a high dosage of Vitamin C (about 16-17 oranges worth in one scoop), which helps fight off illness and protects your body from the stress of intense training. Head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

Alex, Reese, and Taylor sit down for a multi-session chat about heat. It effects us all differently and there are ways to combat it and prepare your body for the demands of running when it's hot.

Guest: Andrew Bumbalough is the Product Line Manager for Nike ACG. He sets a few things straight for the sub-brand and talks about their current and future investment into the trail running and outdoor space.

SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS:
Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here:https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-dirt-division-x-soar

Thomas and Meg sit down to talk to Andy Murray, who has just a few accolades: three Grand Slam titles, two Olympic singles gold medals, and world no. 1 in 2016. Need we say more? In addition to his illustrious career, Andy is an ambassador and investor in Hylo.

Learn more about the brand by visiting https://hyloathletics.com/

The 130th edition of the Boston Marathon is upon us and it's shaping up to be a picture perfect day for racing. But before that, we have plenty of activities, so join us for a weekend of fun, whether you're racing or not. We cover all that before diving into the Marathon Des Sables across the Sahara Desert, as Desert Des Linden goes on another side quest and takes third place OA. If you're running on Monday, good luck and don't forget to take your LMNT!

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SWIFTWICK
In 2025 we launched a vintage collection in celebration of the Boston Marathon with Cole Townsend of Running Supply that sold out in minutes. For this year's race, we've teamed up again for something new. Meet our limited edition, vintage-inspired drop: a T-shirt and sock collection designed to carry you through the streets of Boston. Available now: https://swiftwick.com/collections/boston-marathon-2026

PLUS...

If you'll be in Boston during race week, you’ll be able to shop the collection (along with a new Boston-exclusive drop) at Rec Room in collaboration with Running Supply, located at 334 Newbury St. Stop by the marathon boutique, where you’ll also find brands like SOAR, Currently, Pruzan, Bonzer, Like the Wind, Alex Zono, and Raide.

LMNT
Did you know? LMNT Sparkling comes in a 12 oz slim can with four refreshing flavors: Pineapple Salt, Black Cherry Salt, Lemonade Salt, and Orange Salt, and they’re now available online! These tasty slim cans deliver 500 mg sodium, 100 mg potassium, and 30 mg magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

PILLAR
Recently, we’ve been taking PILLAR Triple Magnesium, and it’s been a game-changer for our sleep and recovery. WE take it about 30 minutes before bed each night which gives us great sleep and helps us recover better so we're ready to train again tomorrow.

If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

Taylor, Alex, and Renee (Midwest reviewer) discuss two of the biggest spring trail events in the US and the brands that support them. Renee was at Lake Sonoma with Adidas Terrex while Taylor was further north at Gorge Waterfalls with Nike ACG.

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Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here: https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-dirt-division-x-soar

This episode is brought to you by sharks in hurricanes and mythical creatures like Artemis from Always Sunny, Kegasus, and He-man, plus a full preview of all our Boston events. We also talk about the overhaul of the marathon at World Athletics Championships, the new Andy Murray sponsorship with Hylo, and the current life status of Perez Hilton (since that's what everyone was wondering).

Check out all our events at Boston Marathon Weekend:

Mount to Coast Meetup: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/behind-the-mount-to-coast-bitr-h1-film-qa-community-night-tickets-1986765072815

New Balance Relay: https://www.ticketsignup.io/TicketEvent/NewBalanceMarathonRelay26

Adidas Shakeout Run: https://heartbreak.run/blogs/heartbeat/adidas-boston-2026-shakeout

SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS

SWIFTWICK

In 2025 we launched a vintage collection in celebration of the Boston Marathon with Cole Townsend of Running Supply that sold out in minutes. For this year's race, we've teamed up again for something new. Meet our limited edition, vintage-inspired drop: a T-shirt and sock collection designed to carry you through the streets of Boston. Available now: https://swiftwick.com/collections/boston-marathon-2026

PLUS...

If you'll be in Boston during race week, you’ll be able to shop the collection (along with a new Boston-exclusive drop) at Rec Room in collaboration with Running Supply, located at 334 Newbury St. Stop by the marathon boutique, where you’ll also find brands like SOAR, Currently, Pruzan, Bonzer, Like the Wind, Alex Zono, and Raide.

Stay tuned on @swiftwicksocks IG for more details coming in the coming weeks.

LMNT

Did you know? LMNT Sparkling comes in a 12 oz slim can with four refreshing flavors: Pineapple Salt, Black Cherry Salt, Lemonade Salt, and Orange Salt, and they’re now available online! These tasty slim cans deliver 500 mg sodium, 100 mg potassium, and 30 mg magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

PILLAR

PILLAR Collagen Repair is designed to support tendons, ligaments, and connective tissue - the stuff that takes a beating when you’re running day after day. It’s super easy it is to use. We mix it into our coffee or a smoothie, usually before a run, and it’s become part of our routine.

It’s not about quick fixes. It’s about supporting your body long-term so you can keep training, racing, and enjoying the process without constantly battling little aches and pains. If you’re thinking about durability as much as improving times, PILLAR Collagen Repair is a smart addition to your routine.

If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

Alex, Taylor, and Reese reconnect after a few weeks of travel. They chat about their most recent adventures and what they are looking forward to this spring, including races for each of them.Guest: Floris Gierman is the cofounder of Path Projects, a running brand focused on high-quality function. Hear about his most recent adventure with the Believe in the Run crew in the Canyon, past life in the skateboard industry, and how he has developed a career in the running space.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS:Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here:https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-dirt-division-x-soar

This week, Thomas sits down with Charlotte Heidmann, the absolute boss of the Adizero line over at Adidas. If you’ve been mind-blown by the Evo Pro 1, Prime X, or the runaway hit Evo SL over the last few years, this episode is a goldmine. We dive deep into the pressure of shaking up the super-shoe industry, how the innovation team operates, and what it’s like to receive unfiltered feedback from pinnacle athletes like Benson Kipruto and Tigist Assefa.Then, we pivot to an incredibly relatable runner’s journey: Charlotte taking on her very first marathon in Tokyo. She shares the inside scoop on her training plan, the intense emotional relief of crossing the finish line in a stellar 3:36:48, and why she chose to race in a colorway that wasn't exactly her favorite.

This week, Thomas and Karl drop into the Grand Canyon with Mount to Coast to celebrate the massive release of the BITR x Mount to Coast H1 collab shoe. To properly break in the new drop, the guys tackle a brutal ultra down in the canyon alongside an absolute powerhouse crew featuring American marathon legend Ryan Hall and Path Projects founder Floris Gierman. Joined by Doug, Lin, Spencer, Matt, and Taylor, it's a wild adventure of heavy vert, epic miles, and plenty of on-the-run shoe talk. Spoiler alert: they survived to tell the tale.

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PILLAR

If you’re training hard, traveling to races, or just stacking miles week after week, you know how easy it is for your immune system to take a hit. That’s why we’ve been reaching for PILLAR Ultra Immune C. It contains a high dosage of Vitamin C (about 16-17 oranges worth in one scoop), which helps fight off illness and protects your body from the stress of intense training. Head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

LMNT

Did you know? LMNT Sparkling comes in a 12 oz slim can with four refreshing flavors: Pineapple Salt, Black Cherry Salt, Lemonade Salt, and Orange Salt, and they’re now available online! These tasty slim cans deliver 500 mg sodium, 100 mg potassium, and 30 mg magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

The Grand Canyon is known as one of the Seven Wonders of the World. We visited and can confirm that this is truly a special place. Hear from Dirt Division reviewers Matt and Taylor about their day in the canyon celebrating the launch of the Mount to Coast BITR H1. They chat about the experience, gear, and people that made the adventure.

This week, we dive into the fascinating trend of Gen Z ditching alcohol and break down the big sponsor news of Clayton Young's move to Brooks. On the running front, it was a massive week for American records: Emma Grace Hurley officially beat Deena Kastor's 21-year-old 8K mark. Later in the show, we get into some shoe talk with the Mount to Coast C1 and 361 Miro Nude 2.

SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSSOAR

Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here: https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-drop

LMNT

Did you know? LMNT Sparkling comes in a 12 oz slim can with four refreshing flavors: Pineapple Salt, Black Cherry Salt, Lemonade Salt, and Orange Salt, and they’re now available online! These tasty slim cans deliver 500 mg sodium, 100 mg potassium, and 30 mg magnesium. ​Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Taylor is fresh off the plane from San Francisco where he spent the weekend with the Salomon crew at the Big Alta. Alex and Taylor mull over the weekend and determine whether this is an event to check out in future years. Then, they have a quick chat about a shoe that has been a staple in Taylor's return to running over the last three months, the Salomon Aero Glide 4 GRVL.

Guest: Grayson Murphy is a world champion trail runner who is also competing at the highest level on the roads. Taylor and Grayson discuss her exciting new chapters with Salomon and as a mom in her third trimester of pregnancy.

SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS

LMNT: Slim cans are our life, right now. It contains half of the original LMNT recipe with 500mg of sodium and adds some bubbles to the mix. If you prefer the original packets, we do too. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/dirtdivision

Thomas interviews Jeff Metzdorff of Mill City Running.

This week, Thomas sits down with Karl, our Media Coordinator, to talk through his origin story.

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SOAR

Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here: https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-drop

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com

The crew is back to their normal shenani’s and reminisced on the olden days. They discuss some of the trends that were popular when they started running.Guest: Kevin Benes is the founder and owner of Running Wild Events in Estes Park, Co. He and Taylor talk about his history in running, his array of quirky events, why running is currently sitting in the back seat, and some of his favorite trail shoes of all time.

Meg is back from Los Angeles where she wrapped up the grand finale of the ASICS LA 100, a 16-week journey that culminated with one hundred women running the LA Marathon on International Women's Day. It was quite the weekend, to say the least. We also cover some thoughts on the Adidas Hyperboost Edge, a controversial design but with an undeniably great feeling underfoot.

Also– Monday is the official pre-sale date of the Mount to Coast H1 BITR! Pick it up here: https://mounttocoast.com/products/bitr-h1

SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS

SOAR

Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here: https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-drop

LMNT

Did you know? LMNT Sparkling comes in a 12 oz slim can with four refreshing flavors: Pineapple Salt, Black Cherry Salt, Lemonade Salt, and Orange Salt, and they’re now available online! These tasty slim cans deliver 500 mg sodium, 100 mg potassium, and 30 mg magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Reese, Alex, and Taylor talk about a hodgepodge of topics ranging from their current training, wearing headphones, and running with underwear. They eventually get around to initial thoughts about Arc'teryx race shoe, the Sylan 2.

Guest: Dylan Bowman is, perhaps, trail running's Ambassador Supreme. His life and business revolve around the sport he loves. He is also stepping into a new season as an athlete who gets to choose his training, races, and gear. Dylan and Taylor chat about all of this and more.

SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS

LMNT

Slim cans are our life, right now. It contains half of the original LMNT recipe with 500 mg of sodium and adds some bubbles to the mix. If you prefer the original packets, we do too. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: https://drinklmnt.com/dirtdivision

Thomas and Karl are back from South Korea, where they got an up-close look at the all-new On Lightspray factory, full of droids producing a whole army's worth of running footwear. They cover the entire trip while Robbe defends Spirit Airlines to the death and Meg gives a preview of her upcoming weekend with ASICS and the Los Angeles Marathon 100 Women Challenge. Thomas also drops the deets on the upcoming Mount to Coast BITR H1 release.

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SOAR

Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here: https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-drop

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com

INDEX

6:12 - USATF Half Marathon Champs Women Debacle

17:36 - Busan

21:52 - Shakeout run first

30:08 - On Factory (just follow the convo and plug in b-roll)

53:00 - Tokyo Marathon

1:04:55 - Spirit Airlines

1:13:00 - Nate Bargatze

1:15:55 - Meg’s LA Marathon 100 Women Challenge

1:25:35 - Newport News Marathon

1:26:25 - BITR x MTC H1 Presale

The Dirt Division has reviewers around the country. This week we chat about the “art” of reviewing. Hear about our approach to building a profile and our opinions about each shoe we review.Guest: Max King has had a long illustrative career in trail running, and it continues with the support of Kailas Fuga. Most recently he took on the challenge of the Barkley Marathons.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!LMNTSlim cans are our life, right now. It contains half of the original LMNT recipe with 500mg of sodium and adds some bubbles to the mix. If you prefer the original packets, we do too. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/dirtdivision

Thomas interviews Olivier Bernhard and Caspar Coppetti, On Co-Founders, and Scott Maguire, On's Chief Innovation Officer, on the floor of On's new Lightspray factory in South Korea. Topics include the conception of the factory, the new Lightspray Cloudmonster 3 Hyper, and how innovation in automation is driving the brand forward.

Thomas and Karl are checking out the all-new On Lightspray factory in South Korea, so we test a new and incredibly confusing format with Wide Foot Jarrett and Normal Foot Jared. We still manage to keep it unhinged, covering everything from jogging strollers to peptide stacking and a converation about cotton and sweat.

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SOAR

Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Enter the giveaway here: https://www.soarrunning.com/blogs/news/the-drop

PILLAR

If you’re training hard, traveling to races, or just stacking miles week after week, you know how easy it is for your immune system to take a hit. That’s why we’ve been reaching for PILLAR Ultra Immune C. It contains a high dosage of Vitamin C (about 16-17 oranges worth in one scoop), which helps fight off illness and protects your body from the stress of intense training. Head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

LMNT

Marathon racing seaon is here, which means you need your LMNT, featuring 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. We use it before, during, and after all our races and you should oto. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

This week, the crew talks about the flip side of the coin - reasons why you SHOULD run ultras. Then, they talk shop about the Hoka Speedgoat 7 as it compares to the beloved Speedgoat 4 Evo.

Guest: Taylor chats with Teva Beureau of Adventure athlete, Erin Ton. Her life is all about adventure. She has the most FKT's of any woman in the world and has recently recorded the fastest time on one of the world's Seven Summits.

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LMNT
The Lemonade Salt has returned for good, so make sure you grab the greatest flavor on the planet for all your trail running needs. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/dirtdivision

Thomas and Robbe sit down with Hylo CEO Jacob Green and Chief Product Officer Jorma Seabourne to share the story of how Hylo came to life, where the brand is headed next, and what truly sets their product apart — all with a healthy dose of classic British humour along the way. Tune in for an honest, behind-the-scenes conversation you won’t want to miss.

Check out Hylo: https://hyloathletics.com/

Thomas and Karl return from their addended trip to the Adidas HQ in Germany where they delved into the footwear archives. We wrap up our final two days in London. We wonder about witches and whey. All of us may be suffering from jet lag, so bear with us.

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SOAR’s 1 Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Get your gear at: www.soarrunning.com

PILLAR

Recently, we’ve been taking PILLAR Triple Magnesium, and it’s been a game-changer for our sleep and recovery. WE take it about 30 minutes before bed each night which gives us great sleep and helps us recover better so we're ready to train again tomorrow. If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases!

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com

Alex brought a juicy topic to the group this week. They went round robin on reasons NOT to run an ultra. Then, they chat about some of their initial thoughts on the Nike ACG Ultrafly.

Guest: Terignota is a trail running apparel brand that has blown up over the past year. Found, Alex King, and Taylor chat about the quick trajectory, what makes Terignota special in a saturated space, and more.

Andy Baddeley is a father, an Olympian, a co-founder of the Running Channel, and the previous parkrun world record holder. Thomas and Andy talk about what it was like competing compared to now, the team at The Running Channel, and many other topics in this episode of The Drop.

Check out The Running Channel here:

⁠https://therunningchannel.com/

The gang is across the pond on today's episode. In store: Hylo, Delta One mishaps, English breakfast, and really terrible impressions. From West Ham to Platform 9 3/4, this one has it all, folks.

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LMNT

It's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

SOAR
SOAR’s 1 Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a full refund. No questions asked. Ship worldwide, with all orders delivered direct-to-the-customer without any additional duties or taxes – no post-checkout surprises. Orders over $180 ship FREE. Get your gear at: www.soarrunning.com

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Collagen Repair is a smart addition to your routine, ensuring you stay healthy when you're working your hardest. If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or ⁠TheFeed.com/pillar⁠ and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

Taylor, Alex, and Reese jump right in this week with topics ranging from personal philosophies on eating food off of the ground to personal stitches. They also chat about the Adidas Terrex Agravic TT as well as sacrifices they are willing to make for races depending on duration and terrain.GUEST: Nike ACG’s poster child, Christian Allen, joins Taylor to talk about his versatility as an athlete, faith, and his big goals in 2026.

Nick Harris-Fry from The Run Testers joins Thomas for this episode of the Drop to talk all things running shoes, YouTube, The Run Testers, and for the first time ever, we do a live review of the Hoka Cielo X1 3.0.

The team went down to Florida and brought the coldest temperatures in a hundred years along with them for The Donna Marathon Weekend. We recap our races and the Winter GRIT party and our time at Waffle House, among many other things. Thanks to everyone that came out, we had an amazing time despite the unseasonable temps.

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We had the best time ever at The Donna Marathon Weekend and the Four Points is just steps away from the start and finish line, literally the closest we've ever been to a race. With oceanside rooms in a quiet setting, it's the best place to get a good night's rest before a race. It's a bonus that they just remodeled and their happy hour is top notch. Reserve your room here: https://www.marriott.com/en-us/hotels/jaxbf-four-points-jacksonville-beachfront/overview/

SOAR

If you don't know, Soar makes some of the best running apparel in the world. Like, the whole world. They take design and performance seriously, utilizing cutting edge fabrics that exceed the highest standards for running gear. We love all their winter apparel and their warm weather singlets are unbeatable. Check out their X-Race collections, which are perfect for al the upcoming spring marathons:

Men’s XRace collections

https://www.soarrunning.com/collections/x-race

Women’s XRace collections

https://www.soarrunning.com/collections/womens-x-race

PILLAR

Collagen Repair is designed to support tendons, ligaments, and connective tissue - the stuff that takes a beating when you’re running day after day. PILLAR Collagen Repair is a smart addition to your routine, ensuring you stay healthy when you're working your hardest. If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com

This week, the Trail Trio discusses considerations for choosing race day footwear - which proves to be much more difficult to come to a consensus than one would think.

Guest: Cade Michael is an up and coming trail runner who has taken some big swings this past year! He’s looking to improve on those results and continue to establish himself as one of the USA’s top prospective athletes in 2026.

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Marathon racing season is here, which means you need your LMNT, featuring 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. We use it before, during, and after all our races and you should to. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: DrinkLMNT.com/dirtdivision​  

Nikhil Jain is the Director of Footwear Product Line Management at Brooks Running. Thomas and Meg had the opportunity to talk all things Glycerin Flex with him at The Running Event.

We're bringing the listeners into the mix as we answer a handful of questions, including our picks for best and worst marathon medals. We also recap our snow day(s) here in Baltimore and Alex Honnold doing weird things on tall buildings before covering the just-released Hoka Cielo X1 3.0, a lighter and even more energetic race-day shoe.

Shop the Gorewear sale and save another 15% off by using code BITR15: https://alnk.to/e7anCxh (affiliate link)

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If you’re training hard, traveling to races, or just stacking miles week after week, you know how easy it is for your immune system to take a hit. That’s why we’ve been reaching for PILLAR Ultra Immune C. It contains a high dosage of Vitamin C (about 16-17 oranges worth in one scoop), which helps fight off illness and protects your body from the stress of intense training. Head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

LMNT
It's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Taylor and Reese prepare themselves for gross winter weather to hit by trading thoughts about the treadmill. Likewise, they chat about the upcoming Merrell Agility Peak 6.

Guest: Cole Zucker is the founder of Kila, an insole company that's built on the premise of run performance. Taylor and Cole talk about Cole's background in the lighting industry and how his experiences helped launch Kila.

Meg is back from the Move Her Mind Summit (and podium finish at the Rose Bowl Half), so we get a recap of all of that. Meanwhile, Thomas took some R&R in Charleston while Robbe got into some weird Baltimore stuff as usual. We also cover jumping beans, chicken pox, dark web stuff, and more, including the Adidas Prime X Evo and Adidas Evolution.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!PILLARRecently, we’ve been taking PILLAR Triple Magnesium, and it’s been a game-changer for our sleep and recovery. WE take it about 30 minutes before bed each night which gives us great sleep and helps us recover better so we're ready to train again tomorrow. If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases!SWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com

Reese is on assignment in Arizona to check out the course for her upcoming race, Black Canyon 100k. She gives the details on her trip, her training, and even a GOAT sighting on the trail. Taylor and Reese then try to sort out the whole "gravel running" conversation and talk about if it's a worthy category to get excited about.Guest: Teva athlete Michael Wardian returns to the show to catch up with Taylor. They mull over a bunch of topics ranging from his busier-than-ever schedule, Burrito League, sandals, and his upcoming world record attempt of 7x50k in 7 days on 7 continents.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!LMNTThe Lemonade Salt has returned for good, so make sure you grab the greatest flavor on the planet for all your trail running needs. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/dirtdivision

The first rule about The Drop is that you don't talk about The Drop. Mostly because your friends will think less of you. On this episode, we give a hagiography of Brad Pitt, Robbe tries to trap a mouse, and we cover all the exciting stuff that happened at the Houston Marathon last weekend. We almost lost one of our listeners, but luckily a doctor was on hand to bring him back to us. Thankful for that and for you if you're still reading this. Eventually we get around to the Mizuno Neo Zen 2, a fine update to an already great shoe. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!PILLARIf you’re training hard, traveling to races, or just stacking miles week after week, you know how easy it is for your immune system to take a hit. That’s why we’ve been reaching for PILLAR Ultra Immune C. It contains a high dosage of Vitamin C (about 16-17 oranges worth in one scoop), which helps fight off illness and protects your body from the stress of intense training. Head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.LMNTIt's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Alex returns this month with a genuine question about selecting your crew for ultras. The trio also chat about the hot topic of January, The Burrito League, and the newest comission in the Speedland lineup, the GS:BLK.

Guest: Chris Myers is a Brooks and Runderwear athlete who has mixed up with the best of the best on the trails. He and Taylor talk a little bit about but even more on other topics like his underwear preferences, the Brooks Cascadia Elite, and his views on personal growth in the sport. Chris also gives some top-notch crewing tips and discloses his focuses for 2026.

Yowana Wamala is the founder and CEO of Supwell.

Find him on Youtube here: https://youtube.com/@supwell?si=SHRm0oeTUDQxVw7z

It's been a few weeks since we've been in studio, so there's been plenty of stuff brewing that we needed to get out. We focus on the trivial, from the lack of cigs in Stranger Things to Maduro's Nike fit to Sage Canaday's beef with unnamed hybrid athlete Truett Hanes. Also, we talk about the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 4, which has taken a big leap forward from the previous version.

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PILLAR

If you’re training hard, traveling to races, or just stacking miles week after week, you know how easy it is for your immune system to take a hit. That’s why we’ve been reaching for PILLAR Ultra Immune C. It contains a high dosage of Vitamin C (about 16-17 oranges worth in one scoop), which helps fight off illness and protects your body from the stress of intense training. Head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com

The duet is back together after an extended year end vacation. They chat about a range of topics from their holiday’s, gas stations, to their post-mortal preferences. Of course, they talk about trail running a with the upcoming Scott Kinabalu Trail and what they look forward to in 2026.Guest: 7Mesh is a high-performance clothing brand that started the way many high-quality brands begin. TJ and Ian, cofounders of 7Mesh, saw a hole in the market for performance tuned all-conditions cycling gear. Their experience and expertise (former Arc’teryx CEO and designer) in the industry helped them create some of the most thoughtful gear that extends to all outdoor endeavors. Listen to how they started 7Mesh, science/thoughts behind their gear, and what’s to come in future seasons.

SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!LMNTThe Lemonade Salt has returned for good, so make sure you grab the greatest flavor on the planet for all your trail running needs. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: DrinkLMNT.com/dirtdivision

In Part 2 of our Holiday Series, we’re recapping the year that was. We kick things off in Miami with HOKA, then roll through an action-packed spring—Kenya, Boston, London, the Move Her Mind Event Series, Western States, #Breaking4 in Paris, welcoming Taylor Boding officially to the team, Worlds in Tokyo, Thomas’ trip to China, Chicago, NYC, and so much more.Thank you all for supporting us every step of the way this year. We’re excited for what’s ahead in 2026.

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SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. They also make for great presents, so treat yourself or someone else today: https://swiftwick.com

LMNT

It's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

I mean, it's Molly freakin' Seidel, Olympic bronze medalist and all-around great person who is now a certified trail runner with a whole slate of off-road adventures lined up in 2026. We talk about that, but we also dive into mysterious vortexes, magic minerals, and her favorite shoes right now.

Follow Molly on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bygolly.molly/

We’ve got a lot to unpack as we close out 2025, starting with a deep dive into Meg’s experience at The Marathon Project—from travel chaos to racing in the Nike Proto. We also break down our favorite shoes, gear, and brands of the year, plus share some listener and viewer stats to round things out.

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MAURTEN

Meg's raced The Marathon Project last week and you know she relied on Maurten for race day. Stock up your own stocking and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. They also make for great Christmas presents, so treat yourself or someone else today: https://swiftwick.com

LMNT

It's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Reese and Taylor take the time to reflect on a big 2025. First they chat about the new Adidas Terrex Agravic Speed Ultra 2 and then dive into the deep end of 2025 where they talk about everything from the idea of time itself to skin care routines.

As CEO of The Atlantic, father of three boys, and age group record holder for the 50K, Nick Thompson has a lot on his plate. That includes writing a new book, The Running Ground, one of our most favorite running books in recent memory. Part memoir and part love letter to the sport, it explores the ups and downs of life and the thread of running through it all. Robbe talks to him about all of that and more in this episode of The Drop.

Pick up The Running Ground: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/678434/the-running-ground-by-nicholas-thompson/

Happy E420 from the team! While we didn't ingest anyting to celebrate, we did go stream of consciousness on this episode. From Jimmy Eat World to the Army/Navy game to Meg's pre-race sickness, Baltimore had a lot going on this weekend. Speaking of races, Meg is headed out to Arizona to run the Marathon Project in a very special prototype. We also talk about The Running Ground, overzealous soccer parents, Taylor Swift's generosity, and Kim Conley's incredible comeback at the 2012 Olympic Trials. Finally, we end up covering the Puma Magmax Nitro 2, a great max cushion trainer that can kind of do anything.

Pick up The Running Ground by Nicholas Thompson: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/678434/the-running-ground-by-nicholas-thompson/

Watch Kim Conley's comeback at the 2012 Olympic Trials: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqdxuWmdsYI

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MAURTEN

Meg's heading off to The Marathon Project in a week and you know she'll be stocking up on Maurten for race day. Stock up your own stocking and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. They also make for great Christmas presents, so treat yourself or someone else today: https://swiftwick.com

LMNT

It's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Taylor, Reese, and Alex (long time BITR contributer) chat about running during winter. Love it or hate it, we all still need to move in the colder months of the year. What adjustments do you make to still get out? Topics of travel, nutrition, gear, training approaches, and more are all packed into this episode.

Guest: Sophia Laukli is a multi-sport pro for Maurten and Salomon. She has cross country skied her whole life and still does so at an elite level. Trail running is a more recent endeavor in which she quickly rose to being one of the top runners in the world! Taylor and Sophia chat about her history with sport, living in Oslo, as well as the ups and downs of being a world-class athlete for two sports year round.

Thomas and Robbe sat down with Kiprun's CMO Julien Vancauwenberghe and Product Lead Pierre-Emmanuel Gaillard to chat about their entrance into the US next year, including what shoes you'll be able to purchase in April.

We went deep into the heart of Texas with nearly 6,000 other runners as we took over San Antonio for the The Running Event 2025. Over the course of three days, we lined up over 40 meetings to gather all the intel we could about running shoes, apparel, gear, and nutrition. This is our report of that event, as well as a full recap of our experience at the Rainforest Cafe. It's a long one, but well worth it.

Limited spots remain for Winter GRIT! Get in today: https://www.believeintherun.com/grit

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MAURTEN
Meg's heading off to The Marathon Project in a week and you know she'll be stocking up on Maurten for race day. Stock up your own stocking and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

SWIFTWICK
You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wear them pretty much every day, whether it's the Flite XT crew or the low cut no-show. They also make for great Christmas presents, so treat yourself or someone else today: https://swiftwick.com

LMNT
It's winter, but we're still training and sweating. Which means we still need our LMNT, with 1,000 mg of sodium and key electrolytes. If you haven't had their hot flavors yet, you need to get in on it, because they make the perfect winter treat. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

The Dirt Division met up with the Baltimore Crew down in San Antonio to check out all that's to come in 2026. Listen to their observations of trends, what they are excited about, and the inevitable stories that come out of such a weekend.Guest: Anna Gibson is one of the best that the US has to offer. The US Olympic Trials qualifier on the track just just wrapped up an epic year of trail with world-class results at Golden Trail Final and World Mountain Running Championships. Taylor and Anna chat about her relationship with sport, Grand Canyon rafting, coffee, and much more.

Andy Wacker is a professional runner from Boulder, Colorado who run roads, track, trails at an elite level. He also wears many other hats in the running world including directing an elite trail running development team. Taylor and Andy talk about all of that and more.

Follow Andy on Instagram: @wackera

We’re headed off to TRE, but first we recap our Thanksgiving weekends including turkey trots and family fun. Eventually, we talk about our experience in the Brooks Glycerin Flex, a daily trainer with an ultra flexible midsole.

Glycerin Flex: https://www.brooksrunning.com/en_us/glycerin-flex.html

Register for Winter GRIT: https://www.believeintherun.com/grit

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We crushed nearly a dozen Maurtens each for the JFK 50 Mile race, finishing strong without bonking. Stock up for your own fall races and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wore them for the JFK 50 Mile race and finished with ZERO blisters, so we're not sure how else we can convince you to buy a pair. Get your pair today: https://swiftwick.com

LMNT

Guess what? Yes, we used LMNT before and during the JFK 50 Mile race. Robbe downed 4 packets during the actual race and got through with zero cramps or headaches. With 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes, LMNT helps restore balance to your life after any hard effort. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

If you're anything like Taylor and Reese, you're hard to buy gifts for. They are here helping us all out whether you're a trail runner or getting something for a trail runner. We have reviewed a lot of gift-worthy gear this year. Here are some of our favorites in all price categories.

Guest: Dan Green has had a major year of trail running with a race calendar and results that any trail runner would dream of! The Maurten/ Salomon pro talks about how he got into running in the first place, his rise to an elite level, and whether he even considers himself as a professional.

Robbe talks with Andy Wynne, founder of Nuyarn, leading the way in Merino technology. It's a deep dive into one of our favorite materials on earth.

Learn more about Nuyarn: https://nuyarn.com/

Check out our guide to running in Merino: https://believeintherun.com/gear-reviews/merino-wool-guide-for-winter-running/

Thomas and Robbe recap all the ups and downs of their traverse through the JFK 50 Mile race, which turned out to be much better than their initial test run of the trail portion. Also, Winter GRIT registration opens at 9 a.m. TODAY (November 28), so make sure you get in on it before it sells out! Plus, we just announced our first ever shoe collab with Mount to Coast, which comes out in Spring 2026. Register for Winter GRIT: https://www.believeintherun.com/grit

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MAURTEN

We crushed nearly a dozen Maurtens each for the JFK 50 Mile race, finishing strong without bonking.

Stock up for your own fall races and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wore them for the JFK 50 Mile race and finished with ZERO blisters, so we're not sure how else we can convince you to buy a pair.

Get your pair today: https://swiftwick.com

LMNT

Guess what? Yes, we used LMNT before and during the JFK 50 Mile race. Robbe downed 4 packets during the actual race and got through with zero cramps or headaches. With 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes, LMNT helps restore balance to your life after any hard effort.

Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Reese gives the full recap on an epic day at the historic JFK 50 miler with the Believe in the Run Crew.

Guest: Tim Tollefson is on the Drop for the second time. This time, he's wearing his race director's hat. Taylor and Tim talk about the challenges and privileges of hosting an event like Mammoth Trailfest.

Robbe talks with Michael Doughty, founder of Hylo Athletics, about his vision for the brand, his life as a premier league footballer, and much more.

Check out Hylo Athletics: https://us.hyloathletics.com/Follow Hylo Athletics on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hyloathletics

Matcha is in, pumpkin spice is out, and we're your performative podcast to get you through your long run. We cover the whole spectrum of what goes on in our cranial cavities, from bib banditing to buying mountains in Maine. We also talk about the Brooks Glycerin Max 2, which seems to be quite different from v1.

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MAURTEN

The top two men and top three women at the New York City Marathon used Maurten to fuel their race efforts, including all three women finishing under the previous course record. We also used Maurten for our entire race, finishing strong without bonking. Stock up for your own fall races and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We'll be wearing them for all the JFK 50 Mile race next weekend, knowing that they'll keep us comfortable and blister free the whole time. Get your pair today: https://swiftwick.com/products/chicago

LMNT

We used LMNT before and during the New York City Marathon to keep our salt and electrolyte levels topped off, and we'll be using them all day at JFK. With 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes, LMNT helps restore balance to your life after any hard effort. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX0:00 - Intro1:02 - Matcha Tea / PSL (Pumpkin Spice Latte) 5:13 - Final Reflections on JFK 5013:20 - Des Linden's "The Next Chapter" 16:13 - NYC Marathon and Influencers / Bib Banditing 33:25 - "Official Unofficial Time" / Additional Run and Shoe Talk49:54 - Camp David / Maine Mountains / Karl Is A Big Presidents' Guy57:04 - Brooks Glycerin Max 2 / More Shoe Talk / Closing Thoughts

Reese and Taylor start by talking about training and Taylor's trip to the NYC marathon. Then, they chat about all things JFK. Not only is the race unique, it's a sentimental homecoming for Reese.Guest: Epic Bill earned his name after heartbreak. His sucessful video store business collapsed which led him to approach new challenges the only way he knew how - show up and suffer. He has become known as the man who will not quit whether that means taking on the hardest endurance spectacles across the globe or daily training. Taylor and Bill talk about what led him to endurance feats and highlight his new documentary "Epic Bill."

Check out Epic Bill's documentary: https://www.epicbillfilm.com/

Trail Run Adventures provides some of the most incredible all-inclusive and guided trail running excursions in some of the most epic places around the globe. Use code BELIEVE100 to save $100 when you sign up for a Trail Run Adventures experience: https://www.trailrunadventures.com/

Robbe chats with Cole Townsend of Running Supply about his love of run culture, his favorite brands right now, and what's trending. They also discuss the state of running and the final boss question: has run culture peaked?

Subscribe to the Running Supply Substack: https://runningsupply.substack.com/

Hit scan on your car radio and tune in to this week's episode of The Drop, where Thomas and Robbe recap their adventurous 14-mile trail run as part of their JFK 50 Mile preview. Suffice it say, these city boys are ready to go for next weekend, whether that's true or not. We also talk about the R.A.D UFO, a running shoe that kind of came out of nowhere and stole our hearts.

Check out R.A.D: https://rad-global.com/collections/r-a-d-ufo

Check out Atwill: https://runatwill.com/

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MAURTEN

The top two men and top three women at the New York City Marathon used Maurten to fuel their race efforts, including all three women finishing under the previous course record. We also used Maurten for our entire race, finishing strong without bonking. Stock up for your own fall races and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

LMNT

We used LMNT before and during the New York City Marathon to keep our salt and electrolyte levels topped off, and we'll be using them all day at JFK. With 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes, LMNT helps restore balance to your life after any hard effort. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX

0:00 - Intro

1:25 - NYC Bartenders / Gimmicky Music / Seek+Scan Car Radios

12:25 - Thomas and Robbe's JFK Preview Run / JFK Course Overview

54:26 - Gear Talk for JFK / Day Raves

1:03:04 - R.A.D UFO / RIP Gorewear + Deckers X Lab / Closing Thoughts

1:26:38 - JFK Preview Run Featurette

Are 200's the new 100s? Reese and Taylor talk about the growing trend of going farther. Why is it a thing? We're still perplexed, and curious, about the challenge.

Guest: Taylor catches Parley Hannan, Hylo Athletics' first signed athlete, fresh off the plane. They discuss her running trajectory from not even running until college to setting NCAA records to OTQ’s and The Speed Project. They also chat her recent DNF at the Mammoth 200 and the reality that mental health plays a major role in our lives as people and runners.

Felix Cartal is a platinum- and gold-certified DJ and producer based out of Vancouver, Canada, Last month, he ran a 10K every day for 30 days leading up to the release of his newest album "i, sabotage." We talk with him about running, coming up as a DJ, working with artists like Tegan and Sara, what he listens to on his runs, and a bunch of other random stuff. Great guy, great music, great conversation.

Follow Felix on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/felixcartal/

Stream his new album on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/3IjeoYQfPmuESwlMVAIbwc?si=Ulo31s8zRlib2oSiB9BTZQ

Another year, another trip through the five boroughs. We recap our experience during the New York City Marathon weekend, including an epic shakeout run with New Balance, the united front of our 4-hour pace group, and the full rundown of race day as we covered 26.2 from Staten Island to Central Park. Wide Foot Jarrett fills in for Thomas.
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The top two men and top three women at the New York City Marathon used Maurten to fuel their race efforts, including all three women finishing under the previous course record. We also used Maurten for our entire race, finishing strong without bonking. Stock up for your own fall races and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN
LMNT
We used LMNT before and during the New York City Marathon to keep our salt and electrolyte levels topped off. With 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes, LMNT helps restore balance to your life after any hard effort. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Trail running is, perhaps, the worst at using acronyms. UTMB, GTWS, FKT. What does it all mean and how can you get experience some of the best of our sport? Reese and Taylor talk about some of the main trail running series and how you can potential join in on the fun.
Guest: Taylor Stack is a rookie professional trail runner for Brooks. While this is his first year as a pro, he has had performances that put him in the most elite conversations within our sport. Taylor and Taylor chat about his running background and how he quickly rose to the top in the Golden Trail Series.

Fresh off his American record-breaking finish at the Chicago Marathon, Maurten athlete Conner Mantz joins us for a special edition of The Drop. We talk about fueling and training and get the behind the scenes story of his finish at the Olympic Trials. Also, his great grandfather flew with Amelia Earhart across the Pacific, so that's cool. Thankfully, he picked the right ocean.

Conner fuels with Maurten for all his races, so you should too. Their proprietary formula encapsulates carbs to bypass the gut and minimize indigestion. Stock up for your own fall marathon training and save 15% off your order by using code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

It's marathon week (again) and we're already in the Big Apple as we prepare for a full weekend of activities. But first, we discuss our current training, updates to Robbe's injury, a little pre-Christmas gift giving courtesy of Thomas, and a movie review of Weapons. If you're in New York this weekend, we hope to see you there, and if you're running– have an incredible time running through the greatest city on earth!

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Molly Seidel will be fueling with Maurten as she takes on the the New York City Marathon on Sunday, and we will be too (though much farther behind her). Stock up for your own fall marathon training and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We'll be wearing them for all our marathons this fall, knowing that they'll keep us comfortable and blister free. Get your pair today: https://swiftwick.com/products/chicago

LMNT

Racing season is upon us which means you need all the salt you can get to keep you from bonking. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX

0:00 - Intro (ft. Clayton Young)

4:27 - Marine Corps Marathon / Final NYC Schedule

10:00 - Updates on Robbe’s Running

28:43 - A Gift from Thomas to Robbe

32:36 - Mount To Coast X BITR Run / 6 7 Meme / Odds for Lottery

45:38 - Diplo Run Club / Sports Betting Craze

55:26 - Javelina Jundred / Movie Talk / Roller Coasters

1:13:24 - GPS Watches / Nipple Tape and Race Day Masochism

1:18:31 - New Balance Goodie Bag / Closing Remarks

Taylor and Reese of Believe in the Run's Dirt Division chat about injuries that plague us and some treatments that could help runners. They also chat about the gravel category of trail running shoes. Is it a legit thing? Craft and many other brands seem to think so. They dive a further into the Craft Nordlite Ultra Pro and Nordlite Ultra 2.
Guest: Emkay Sullivan is a trail runner for Craft. She has the unique experience of finding elite level success on the track, roads, and trail. Taylor and Emkay chat about all that as well as the rise of short course trail running that her podcast with Dani Moreno (The Sub Hub) highlights.

Thomas chats with Mikey Kratzer, a run culture enthusiast and New Balance partner, about life, running, and his philosophy on all things.

Follow Mikey on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikey_kratzer_/

INDEX

0:00 - Intro

0:26 - BITR Intro Video Contest

1:44 - Robbe's Injury / Karaoke after BRF / Meta Oakley Shields

16:57 - NYC Marathon 4-Hour Pace Group / 100 Women Los Angeles Marathon Program

26:22 - BITR x NYC Marathon Plans / MTV Shutting Down / Sirius XM

34:42 - Baltimore Running Festival / Cape Town Marathon Cancellation

1:13:27 - Shoe Talk / Fantasy Football / Closing Thoughts

Taylor and Reese of Believe in the Run's Dirt Division are here for Episode 1 of the Dirt Division podcast. They talk about their most recent adventures at Western States and UTMB, with a few side tangents thrown in.

Taylor chats with Lea Mulligan, pro runner for La Sportiva, who recently finished top-10 overall at the Leadville 100.

Follow Lea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leamulligan/

Read our reviews of La Sportiva shoes: https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/type/trail/?shoe_brand=972

Our Chicago weekend was full of fun and friends and family, from our epic shakeout run with New Balance to Thomas's finish at the Chicago Marathon. We had an incredible time meeting so many of you, cheering you on during the race, witnessing Conner Mantz break the American record, and taking in the sights and sounds of the city. Not sure how we feel about Chicago Italian beef though. We'll just stick with the dogs.

Running NYC Marathon? Join the very unnoficial 4-hour pace group: https://forms.gle/XdGYJAQaipeoB6NNA

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Conner Mantz just destroyed the American men's marathon record using this stuff and Thomas finished strong at Chicago fueling with Maurten the whole way. We use Maurten gels for all our races and you should too. Stock up for your fall marathon training and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

SWIFTWICK
You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We'll be wearing them for all our marathons this fall, knowing that they'll keep us comfortable and blister free. Get your pair today: https://swiftwick.com/products/chicago

LMNT
The Lemonade Salt has returned for good, so make sure you grab the greatest flavor on the planet for all your fall marathon needs. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX

0:00 - Intro

0:52 - Day 1 - Travel / Expo

28:00 - Day 2 - Shakeout Run / Live Panel

48:15 - Day 3 - Race Day

Thomas chats with Chris Marroquin, Director of Player Rehabilitation for the Baltimore Ravens about what it's like to work with professional athletes, staying healthy while playing sports, his background as a physical therapist, his running journey, and much more.

Well folks, were so busy climbing the mountain that we forgot we made it to episode 400. So while we didn't bust out the balloons, we almost broke out a Ouija board and said Bloody Mary three times just to see what would happen. We also mansplain Taylor Swift's artistic direction before deep dishing on Chicago Marathon weekend and Thomas's fueling plan for the race. If you are in Chicago, come out to our shakeout run on Saturday morning, hope to see you there!

All the details for the Chicago Shakeout Run: https://believeintherun.com/event/chicago-marathon/2025-10-11/1/

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LMNT

The Lemonade Salt has returned for good, so make sure you grab the greatest flavor on the planet for all your fall marathon needs. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX0:00 - Intro7:08 - Pistachio Tides / Fall Race Talk / Getting Weezered12:40 - The Life of a Showgirl / Radiohead / BITR Intro Video Contest22:34 - Chicago Weekend Plans (Final Itinerary)27:17 - Swiftwick X BITR Limited Edition Sock / Swiftwick X Greg Itahara Chicago Sock29:11 - Thomas's Chicago Race Shoes + Plan / Race Nutrition40:53 - Xenon Gas / Run Journals53:38 - Robbe's Running / Half Tight Recommendations1:01:13 - Bloody Mary / Ouija Boards / AI + Celebrities' Heights1:13:56 - Spooky Season / Depressing World Stuff / Closing Thoughts

Taylor packed his bags and headed out to the Mammoth Trailfest in Mammoth Lake, California (sponsored by Craft) for the weekend. Get his recap of one of the most fun events in trail running today.Read his recap: https://believeintherun.com/mammoth-trailfest/

Big things are coming as we head to Chicago next weekend, so we got you covered on that end. We also discuss Meg's infatuation with baby quails, running etiquette on multiple flybys, our training for the New York Marathon and JFK 50 Mile, and our somewhat delayed reactions to the Berlin Marathon. Finally, we cover the Hoka Mach X 3, which sees an improved upper over last year's version.

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MAURTEN

Get 15% off by using code Believe15!* We use Maurten gels for all our races and some of the most elite athletes in the world rely on their bicarb system for optimizing their fuel strategies on race day. Stock up for your fall marathon training and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. Speaking of race day, they just delivered a limited-edition "Dig Deeper" pizza sock designed by artist Greg Itahara in celebration of the Chicago Marathon. They're going fast so make sure you pick them up before they're pepperoni: https://swiftwick.com/products/chicago

LMNT

The Lemonade Salt has returned for good, so make sure you grab the greatest flavor on the planet for all your fall marathon needs. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX

0:00 Intro

8:01 BITR x New Balance Chicago Weekend Itinerary

15:03 Tilly Norwood: AI Actress and the Downfall of Humanity

20:57 Meta Oakley Glasses / Harry Styles and the Berlin Marathon / Molly Seidel's End with Puma

30:53 JFK 50 Miler / Baltimore Running Festival Half-Marathon

49:36 Baby Quails, OnlyFans, and Holiday Dinners

59:44 Fun Dip, Pixie Sticks, Football

1:05:18 Hoka Mach X 3

1:17:36 Runners' Etiquette on the Flyby Wave / Old School Pizza Hut

Taylor chats with Mary Denholm, a pro ultrarunner and Craft athlete.

Follow Mary on Instagram: @eatrunandbemary

The gang came back to Baltimore while Thomas went to China. From Guangzhou to Hong Kong, we dive deep into all his culinary and running adventures, including a behind the scenes visit to a manufacturing facility for Mount to Coast and many other brands. We also do shots of Kweichoi Moutai out of respect.

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Get 15% off by using code Believe15!*

We use Maurten gels for all our races and some of the most elite athletes in the world rely on their bicarb system for optimizing their fuel strategies on race day.

Stock up for your fall marathon training and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://www.maurten.com/?utm_source=referral&utm_campaign=bitr_podcast&utm_medium=partnerships&utm_content=believeintherun

*Valid for all products except Bicarb

Cannot be combined with other promotions

One-time use per customer

Valid through 31 Dec 2025

LMNT

The Lemonade Salt has returned for good, so make sure you grab the greatest flavor on the planet for all your fall marathon needs. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX:

0:00 - Intro

4:33 - Thomas's China Recap / Arrival

29:12 - Mount-To-Coast HQ

34:42 - Chinese Cuisine

36:55 - "The Midsole Factory" / MTC Lab

53:52 - Shenzen Adventures

1:10:46 - Bullet Train to Hong Kong / Dim Sum and Eric Andre

1:20:21 - Taoist Temple / Mountain Hiking

1:31:40 - Mount-To-Coast Group Run

1:34:32 - Shanghai / Chinese EV's

1:58:43 - Wrap-Up / Berlin Marathon / BITR Chicago Marathon Plans

Taylor chats with Adidas Terrex Athlete Eli Hemming.

Follow Eli on Instagram: @eli_hemming

We traveled a day ahead and a week in time to experience the 2025 World Athletics Championship in Tokyo. From the 100 meter finals to the world record in the pole vault to the men's and women's marathons on a hot and humid morning, we witnessed greatness across the board. We did our best to assimilate and only made a few blunders along the way (that we're aware of, anyway). We may not have come back with any Labubus, but we brought home plenty of amazing memories. Thanks to Asics and thanks to Tokyo for being so awesome, we won't forget it anytime soon.

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MAURTEN

Get 15% off by using code Believe15!* We use Maurten gels for all our races and some of the most elite athletes in the world rely on their bicarb system for optimizing their fuel strategies on race day. Stock up for your fall marathon training and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://www.maurten.com/?utm_source=referral&utm_campaign=bitr_podcast&utm_medium=partnerships&utm_content=believeintherun

SWIFTWICK

The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick is made right here in the USA, which means no price increases on account of tariffs. We're always running in their socks and you should be too. The Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15.

Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

LMNT

The Lemonade Salt has returned for good, so make sure you grab the greatest flavor on the planet for all your fall marathon needs. You'll be getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

*Valid for all products except Bicarb Cannot be combined with other promotions One-time use per customer Valid through 31 Dec 2025

INDEX

0:00 - Intro

4:12 - Travel to Japan

12:57 - Citius Mag Group Run

21:22 - Quest for Labubu

25:45 - Robot Sushi

30:17 - Boat Dinner, Karaoke, and Snails

38:24 - Day 1 (For Us) of Athletics

43:43 - Robbe Reunites With Old ""Friend""

49:36 - Final 'Move Her Mind' Stop, Fancy Dinner, Day 2 (For Us) of Athletics

56:42 - Women's Marathon / Karl and Robbe's Side Quest in Shinjuku

1:23:57 - Day 3 (For Us) of Athletics / Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce's Final Race

1:25:03 - Men's Marathon / Clayton Young Falling

1:31:01 - Sumo Wrestling

1:39:53 - Final Evening / Mondo's World Record / Japanese McDonald's

Taylor interviews Kyle Siegel, founder of Raide - a performance based apparel and equipment company focused in the trail space.

Check out their products and learn more about the company here: https://raideresearch.com/

Stuck with cacti and debating the merits of art school and She's All That, that's where we're at. We make sure you're covered with all the unnecessary info before diving into the Nike Vomero Premium, the third release in the Vomero line for 2025, featuring a 55 mm (!) stack height for the dual-Air Zoom midsole.

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MAURTEN

Get 15% off by using code Believe15!* We use Maurten gels for all our races and some of the most elite athletes in the world rely on their bicarb system for optimizing their fuel strategies on race day. Stock up for your fall marathon training and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://www.maurten.com/?utm_source=referral&utm_campaign=bitr_podcast&utm_medium=partnerships&utm_content=believeintherun

LA SPORTIVA

Looking for a new training partner? Meet the La Sportiva Prodigio Max—built for ultra-distance comfort, with nitrogen-infused XFlow Endurance foam and a wide, stable platform to keep you moving mile after mile. Shop the La Sportiva Prodigio Max here: https://rei.pxf.io/K0LmKa

* Valid for all products except Bicarb

Cannot be combined with other promotions

One-time use per customer

Valid through 31 Dec 2025

Robbe sits down for a chat with Mario Fraioli, running coach and author of The Morning Shakeout newsletter on Substack, to talk about daily journaling, how running changes as we get older, showing up when you don't feel like it, music, culture, and much more.

Subscribe to The Morning Shakeout: https://substack.com/@mariofraioli

Check out his website: https://mariofraioli.com/

Thomas and Karl are back in the U S of A where the salt mounds of South Baltimore are a close second to the snowy peaks of Mont Blanc. We hear all about their remaining adventures, including a seasick paragliding adventure and watching the finish of the greatest trail race on the planet. We also cover some of the Adidas Chasing 100 event and the wonderful world of piglet racing.

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Get 20% off for one week only by using code Believe20! We use Maurten gels for all our races and some of the most elite athletes in the world rely on their bicarb system for optimizing their fuel strategies on race day. Stock up for your fall marathon training and save 20% off your order by using this link: https://www.maurten.com/?utm_source=referral&utm_campaign=bitr_podcast&utm_medium=partnerships&utm_content=believeintherun

LA SPORTIVA

Looking for a new training partner? Meet the La Sportiva Prodigio Max—built for ultra-distance comfort, with nitrogen-infused XFlow Endurance foam and a wide, stable platform to keep you moving mile after mile. Shop the La Sportiva Prodigio Max here: https://rei.pxf.io/K0LmKa

LMNT

BIG NEWS: Lemonade Salt is here to stay! Our favorite flavor of the summer is back and ready to give you 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

SWIFTWICK

The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick is made right here in the USA, which means no price increases on account of tariffs. They're rolling out a lifestyle collection in the coming months, but for now, grab a pair of Flite XT or any other amazing styles. We're always running in their socks and you should be too. The Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15.

Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

INDEX

0:00 - Intro

1:57 - UTMB / Chamonix Recap

29:39 - Maryland State Fair / Piglet Races / Motion Sickness

35:10 - UTMB / Chamonix Recap (cont.)

1;01:43 - ACG / Satisfy Popups

1:03:41 - Adidas Chasing 100 / Evo Prime X

1:12:31 - Hoka Mafate 5

1:16:56 - Move Her Mind Event Series (Oklahoma) / Charles St. 12 Miler

Thomas chat with Tatum Brandt, founder and creative director of Brandt Creative Co., a design studio specializing in branding and web development for fitness, wellness, and sports businesses.

The Dirt Division is in Chamonix for UTMB, so the crew is coming to you live from their little chalet. The gang recaps their time so far, including the ETC race which Thomas and Karl participated in. Taylor also recaps his experience racing Leadville 100.

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LMNT

We're in the full swing of marathon training, so get your 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

LA SPORTIVA

The Prodigio Pro is for speed. The Prodigio Max- It's for the long haul. With XFlow Endurance dual-foam cushioning, a wide forefoot, and a stability wrapping system, the La Sportiva Prodigio Max is built for hours—not just segments. Go farther. Feel better. Finish stronger. Find it at your local run shop or nearest REI.

INDEX

0:00 - Intro

1:35 - Chamonix So Far / ETC Race

49:38 - Taylor’s Recap of Leadville 100

Taylor sits down with Abby Hall, Adidas Terrex Athlete, straight off her win at Western States.

Grab a cod fillet bar, it's time to get some gainz. This week on The Drop, we recap Robbe's breathing struggles at the Leadville 100 as he helped crew Taylor, leader of the Dirt Division. We also recap Meg's latest Move Her Mind stop, before discussing The New York Times article every long distance runner is talking about. Eventually, we discuss a trio of shoes: the featherweight Asics Metaspeed Ray, the Under Armour Velociti Elite 3, and the Norda 001A.

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LMNT

We're in the full swing of marathon training, so get your 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

SWIFTWICK

The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick is made right here in the USA, which means no price increases on account of tariffs. We're always running in their socks and you should be too. The Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15.

Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

INDEX

0:00 - Intro

4:35 - Leadville 100 Recap

48:34 - Move Her Mind Event Series (Decatur, GA)

58:48 - David Protein Bars and...Cod Fillets?

1:04:55 - Marathoning and Colon Cancer / Ozempic Blindness / Marathon Project

1:26:07 - Asics Metaspeed Ray / Under Armour Velociti Elite 3 / Norda 001A

We sat down with Ben Rosario to talk all things The Marathon Project—but first, we trace his journey through the sport. From his early running days to launching Big River Running Co. in college, moving to Flagstaff to found NAZ Elite, Ben’s path has been a fun journey to follow. Now, he’s reviving The Marathon Project in a bold, reimagined way, and Meg will be one of the 1000 amateurs toeing the line of the Gold Wave. If you’re interested in running The Marathon Project, you can get more information and apply here: https://www.themarathonproject.com/

Robbe is currently losing his lungs in Colorado as he gets ready to help Taylor run the Leadville 100, but we got this podcast recorded before he self-destructed. I mean, we kind of self-destructed by diving into things we know nothing about, like carnival games at the doctor's office, WNBA, and declaring the day after the Super Bowl an official federal holiday. Enjoy your day off, you're welcome. Oh yeah, we also talk about two shoes that dropped out of nowhere, the all-new Asics Sonicblast and Megablast.

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LA SPORTIVA

Possibly the best trail shoe of 2025, the La Sportiva Prodigio Pro is crafted for ultrarunners, trail addicts, or anyone chasing their next big effort. With XFlow Speed, a dual-super critical nitrogen-infused EVA and TPU midsole technology, AND an ultralight Power Wire mesh upper - it’s responsive, durable, and ready for any terrain. Go farther, go faster! Shop the La Sportiva Prodigio Pro: https://rei.pxf.io/gOXQy0

LMNT

Thomas is mixing and matching flavors, Robbe is tapped into the Mango Chili, but whatever you go with, just know you're getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX

0:00 - Intro

4:48 - Getting Weighed at the Doctor's Office

8:18 - Asics Metaspeed Ray + Balloons

17:38 - WNBA

21:39 - Move Her Mind Event Series (Louisville, KY)

35:02 - Fall Marathons, Weekend Trail Races, La Sportiva Prodigio Pro

48:03 - Robbe and Taylor at Leadville 100 / Reese at TransRockies

53:30 - $10 on a Starbucks Gift Card and a Dream

55:33 - Super Bowl Sunday Scheduling Suggestions

57:28 - Muppets and Other Assorted Haunting '80s Characters

1:03:12 - Tracksmith Trail Collection

1:15:04 - Our Beloved Running Staples

1:22:35 - Asics Sonicblast + Megablast, Miscellaneous End-of-Episode Talk

Fresh off his win in the 1500 at Hayward Field for the US Champs, Under Armour elite Jonah Koech joins us in studio to talk about that race, the upcoming World Championships in Tokyo, and his mindset during running. Also, he's lived in Baltimore for three years and hasn't had crabs or gone to an Orioles game so we need to fix that ASAP.

Watch his race: https://youtu.be/dWnr_7vdQVk?si=nbI36ADoNehCScmu

From swim stories to ostrich racing to figure out if we're Team Shelby, the stars aligned this week to bring you the best running content second to the National Championships. We also recap Summer GRIT and this past weekend's ice cream party before diving in the New Balance Fresh Foam More v6 and a little bit of Puma Velocity Nitro 4.
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LMNT
Thomas is mixing and matching flavors, Robbe is tapped into the Mango Chili, but whatever you go with, just know you're getting 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes that will restore balance to your life after any hard effort. You'll also get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop
SWIFTWICK
The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick is made right here in the USA, which means no price increases on account of tariffs. We're always running in their socks and you should be too. The Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15.
Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe
INDEX
0:00 - Intro
1:30 - Meg's D.C. Trip, Airport Sushi, KOC Supreme Convention
12:42 - Model Planes, Ultra Gliders, Swim Stories
21:50 - Taylor in Town, GRIT Party Weekend, Ostrich Racing
46:02 - Summer GRIT Results Breakdown
53:44 - London Marathon and Guinness World Records, Lightning Strikes
58:49 - USATF National Championships, TSA's Policy on Greek Yogurt
1:09:37 - Shelby Houlihan
1:15:03 - New Balance Fresh Foam X More V6, Miscellaneous Shoe Talk

Taylor sits down with Josh Rosenthal, founder of Borderlands, a trail runner's hub that centers on community. We talk about his small-town roots, entrepreneurial spirit, and how running has hooked him like nothing else. Listen to his story and everything he's involved with in the trail running space.
Check out Borderlands: https://www.instagram.com/runborderlands/

We were all surprised to learn that Monterey Jack cheese came from Monterey, but we weren't surprised by Meg churning out some fast miles at the Wharf to Wharf 6-miler in Santa Cruz. We recap her West Coast journey as well as Thomas and Robbe's trip to Brooklyn (just a couple days after the launch of the On Cloudsurfer Max). Also, Summer GRIT just wrapped up and we had some incredibly performances to highlight (including one woman who has racked up 160,000 feet of elevation gain in one month). Lastly, we highlight the Nike Structure 26 and Norda 008, two shoes that have carried us through the past couple weeks.

INDEX

0:00 - Intro

6:30 - Move Her Mind Event Series (Monterey) / Wharf-to-Wharf 10K Race

24:50 - Robbe in Florida

29:41 - On x BITR Brooklyn Event

43:52 - New Balance x BITR x Coffee & Chill Brooklyn Event

1:05:20 - Norda 008

1:10:00 - Nike Structure 26

1:21:40 - Summer GRIT Leaderboards

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LAGOON PILLOWS
We use Lagoon to get our best sleep and you should too. Featuring super soft covers, Certi-Pur foam and customizable features, they'll help you find the best pillow for your sleeping style. Plus, they're owned by runners. Visit them and use the discount code BELIEVE for 15% off your first order: http://lagoonsleep.com/believe
LMNT
You already know that LMNT has been getting us through Summer GRIT thanks to its blend of electrolytes and 1000 mg of sodium. It's a summer running necessity, and since you're a listener of The Drop, you get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Running is firing on all cylinders right now, which means that run culture is a multi-facted ecosystem revolving around branding, fashion, and personal style. Today on the podcast, Robbe chats with our run culture editor Alfredo Mejia, who joins him from Berlin to talk about the most exciting stuff happening in run culture, including everything he saw at Paris Fashion Week last month.
Make sure you read all of Alfredo's stories at believeintherun.com, and follow him on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alfredo.mejiaa/

Robbe is manifesting true Florida Man energy this week so Karl takes his place in front of the camera. Topics this episode include our fall race plans, beer floats, the final TransRockies Run, and more Summer GRIT updates. We also take a look at the Puma Velocity Nitro 4, the new lightweight daily trainer from Puma that is pretty versatile by all accounts.

Join the boys this Sunday, July 27 in Brooklyn for "Coffee & Chill" and sample a pair of the New Balance Rebel v5.

RSVP here: https://bit.ly/4o0Yop3

INDEX

0:00 - Intro

4:44 - Tour De France / Maryland Cycling Classic

8:39 - Mushroom the Dog / Karl's Chances of Getting a Dog

11:51 - Fall Race Plans / Running Talk

24:09 - Ruth Chepng'etich Doping Controversy

29:15 - Summer GRIT Weekly Updates

31:29 - Savory Ice Cream and Other Weird Snacks

35:46 - James Gunn's "Superman" / Entertainment Talk

42:26 - "Coffee & Chill" Brooklyn Event with New Balance

49:18 - ETC Race at UTMB / The Final TransRockies Run

1:00:29 - Puma Velocity Nitro 4 / End-of-episode Nonsense

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SWIFTWICK

The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick is made right here in the USA, which means no price increases on account of tariffs. We're always running in their socks and you should be too. The Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15.

Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

LMNT

You already know that LMNT has been getting us through Summer GRIT thanks to its blend of electrolytes and 1000 mg of sodium. It's a summer running necessity, and since you're a listener of The Drop, you get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

From Swiss underdogs to global heatseeker, On has won softly over the past decade with its unique approach to footwear design and performance. This week, Robbe chats with Ed Coyon, Global Head of Product for the brand, to talk about On's approach to running, design, production, and the all-new Cloudsurfer Max.
The On Cloudsurfer Max is available now for $180: https://www.on.com/

Throw on your sweaty headphones and tune in for this week's episode of The Drop, featuring an elevator pitch for America's hottest new airline: Weight & See. We also hear about Thomas's trip to the Bahamas and Meg's behind-the-scenes look at the Brooks HQ out in Seattle. Then there's Robbe, who was just sifting through trash in Baltimore. Finally, we cover the Adidas Adizero Prime X 3 Strung, a super trainer sporting a 50 mm stack height in the heel.

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LAGOON PILLOWS
We use Lagoon to get our best sleep and you should too. Featuring super soft covers, Certi-Pur foam and customizable features, they'll help you find the best pillow for your sleeping style. Plus, they're owned by runners.

Visit them and use the discount code BELIEVE for 15% off your first order: http://lagoonsleep.com/believe

LMNT
You already know that LMNT has been getting us through Summer GRIT thanks to its blend of electrolytes and 1000 mg of sodium. It's a summer running necessity, and since you're a listener of The Drop, you get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX
0:00 - Intro
3:10 - Lagoon Pillows, Carpeted Bathrooms, Antenna Headphones
11:42 - Meg's Seattle Trip / Brooks HQ
30:13 - Thomas's Bahamas Trip
46:03 - "Weight & See": The Premier Airline from BITR
52:37 - Robbe's GRIT Treasure Hunting
59:04 - Adidas Adizero Prime X 3 Strung
1:06:28 - Summer GRIT Leaderboards

This was a bucket list one, for sure. Thomas and Robbe's souls meet body as they chat with Ben Gibbard of Death Cab For Cutie and The Postal Service, as well as an ultrarunner and Speedland athlete. We dive into his recent finish at the Western States Endurance Run, what he listens to when he runs (Turnstile), as well as the release of his upcoming signature Speedland shoe, the GS:TMT.
Pre-order the Speedland GS:TMT: https://www.runspeedland.com/products/gs-tmt-copy
Listen to Death Cab For Cutie: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0YrtvWJMgSdVrk3SfNjTbx

We're in the swing of Summer GRIT, big things happened at the Prefontaine Classic, and we try and figure out if cloud seeding meatballs can solve world hunger. If so, why aren't we doing that? Also, Meg heads to Seattle where she's going to dig into some mysteries outside of running. Finally, we talk about both the Skechers Aero Tempo and Satisfy TheRocker, two shoes on vastly different sides of the running spectrum.

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LMNT

You already know that LMNT has been getting us through Summer GRIT thanks to its blend of electrolytes and 1000 mg of sodium. It's a summer running necessity, and since you're a listener of The Drop, you get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

SWIFTWICK

The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick is made right here in the USA, which means no price increases on account of tariffs. We're always running in their socks and you should be too. The Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15. Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

INDEX
0:00 - Intro
6:13 - Summer GRIT Week 1, Car Batteries, Customer Service
23:57 - Mont Blanc Virtual Run-through / Western States 2025 Video
28:33 - The 50th PreFontaine Classic / Nike Negativity
35:41 - Robbe's Barefoot Race / George the Pup
40:21 - Mr. Tasty Takes Over Baltimore
42:35 - BITR Summer Events / Leadville 100 / More Western States Talk
52:32 - Meg's Investigation into Portland Serial Killers
58:48 - More Running Talk
1:05:12 - Skechers Aero Tempo
1:15:22 - SATISFY The Rocker

It's another episode with Taylor, head of the Dirt Division, and this time he goes deep with ultrarunner Seth Ruhling. As part of The North Face team, Seth took on Western States and pulled in a 6th-place finish. This interview took place before the race, so we talk about Seth's upbringing, his training, and obviously his favorite shoes for taking on long challenges.

Merry GRIT-MAS to all who celebrate, it's been good to get some miles with all of you this week. And what a week it was, as Thomas and Taylor and the Dirt Division headed to Western States, while Meg said oui to Paris for the Nike Breaking4 Project. History was made and we were honored to witness it. Watch the Breaking4 recap on our YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/bivyb7HoeRwSUPPORT OUR SPONSORSLMNT

You already know that LMNT has been getting us through Summer GRIT thanks to its blend of electrolytes and 1000 mg of sodium.

It's a summer running necessity, and since you're a listener of The Drop, you get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase:

http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX

0:00 - Summer GRIT / Pre-recap nonsense

18:36 - Nike Breaking4 Recap

50:44 - Western States Recap

Thomas chats with Adam Gamble, founder of Nowhere Somewhere, a start-up run apparel brand featuring a range of t-shirts, hats, hoodies, and other apparel.

Check out Nowhere Somewhere: https://www.nowheresomewhere.run/

We recorded this on Monday, but right now Meg is in Paris reliving the excitement of seeing Nike's Breaking4 project with Faith Kipyegon. Thomas and Karl are at Western States, while Robbe is home with George, making margaritas with LMNT mango chili rims. We also recap our fun weekend with Mount to Coast and then talk about Meg's experience in the Brooks Hyperion Elite 5.

Check out all our Western States events: https://www.instagram.com/p/DLPvXYpslu0

Here's the study on hair and wind drag: https://www.theengineer.co.uk/content/news/study-shows-hairstyle-and-clothing-could-cost-athletes-medals/

SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS

SWIFTWICK

The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick is made right here in the USA, which means no price increases on account of tariffs. We're always running in their socks and you should be too. The Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15. Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

LMNT

NEW FLAVOR ALERT! Squeeze the most out of summer with LMNT’s new limited-time Lemonade Salt — salty, tart, and refreshing, it brings you the best of summer wherever you are. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

LAGOON PILLOWS

We use Lagoon to get our best sleep (like we will at the Western States Sleep Station sponsored by Lagoon) and you should too. Featuring super soft covers, Certi-Pur foam and customizable features, they'll help you find the best pillow for your sleeping style. Visit them and use the discount code BELIEVE for 15% off your first order: http://lagoonsleep.com/believe

INDEX

00:00 Intro

01:00 Sorry forgot to index this week

52:30 Brooks Hyperion Elite 5

Thomas sits down with Andrew Dutton, better known online as @ad___sneaks. Dutton is a middle-school teacher in Lehi, Utah, who has earned a devoted following on Instagram through his passion for sneaker photography. Dutton began snapping sneakers during the pandemic and has since evolved into a recognized visual storyteller.

All Thomas wants is a techno song with Gregorian chants, but instead we get Sabrina Carpenter. All Robbe wants is an ultramarathon with tranquilizer darts and Mario Kart red shells, but instead we have the Western States 100. All Meg wants is for all of this nonsense to end. Anyway, we talk about all of that, as well as an in-podcast Between 2 Shoes where we compare the Brooks Hyperion Max 3 and Mizuno Neo Vista 2.

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LMNT

NEW FLAVOR ALERT! Squeeze the most out of summer with LMNT’s new limited-time Lemonade Salt — salty, tart, and refreshing, it brings you the best of summer wherever you are. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

LAGOON PILLOWS

We use Lagoon to get our best sleep (like we will at the Western States Sleep Station sponsored by Lagoon) and you should too. Featuring super soft covers, Certi-Pur foam and customizable features, they'll help you find the best pillow for your sleeping style. Visit them and use the discount code BELIEVE for 15% off your first order: http://lagoonsleep.com/believe

PILLAR

Ensuring NN Running athletes continue to take podiums and claim records, PILLAR Performance gets them to start lines in the best condition possible. Recovery is crucial to managing training loads, and adequately preparing for race day. This is why PILLAR's Triple Magnesium provides a high dosage of Magnesium Bisglycinate to boost the recovery score on your wearable.

Enter code BITR on The Feed to receive 15% off your first order, and track the difference yourself: https://thefeed.com/products/pillar-performance

INDEX

0:00 - Intro

13:14 - Fathers' Day Running

18:24 - Local Baltimore Discussions

33:13 - Move Her Mind Event Series / Nike Breaking 4

38:38 - The Return of the Hot Tub Boiz / Gondola Culture

51:26 - Music Talk

54:01 - Back to Western States

56:33 - Best Shoes to Escape Human Hunters

1:02:19 - Altra's New Campaign

1:10:34 - Running Shoe Lingo

1:12:50 - Between 2 Shoes: Brooks Hyperion Max 3 vs. Mizuno Neo Vista 2

Dirt Division leader Taylor, and longtime BITR contributor, Alex, sit down with Adidas Terrex athlete, Dani Moreno. Dani comes by way of Mammoth Lakes, California but grew up in LA where life was much different. They talk about Dani's history with sport, her adventurous hiatus from running, and her aspirations as she comes back from injury which includes trail racing at the highest level of our sport and that hard fought OTQ.

Follow Dani on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dan_yell_a/

Let us all hold hands and gather in a circle as offer up a sacrifice to AI – but before we do, please turn your attention to The Drop, where everything is real and nothing is plagiarized, as evidenced by our conversations on shoes bought on the dark web, trying to figure out Mastercard naming strategies, and the real life questions that come with acquiring a pet dog. Plus, you'll get some authentic shoe talk when we dive into the one-two punch of the Asics Metaspeed Sky and Edge Tokyo.

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SWIFTWICK
The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick is made right here in the USA, which means no price increases on account of tariffs. We're always running in their socks and you should be too. The Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15.

Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

LMNT
NEW FLAVOR ALERT! Squeeze the most out of summer with LMNT’s new limited-time Lemonade Salt — salty, tart, and refreshing, it brings you the best of summer wherever you are.

Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX
0:00 - Intro
1:37 - Global Running Day
6:20 - Mount To Coast x Oberhills
10:39 - The Dark Web
15:44 - Move Her Mind Event Series NYC / Mastercard Mini 10K
31:18 - Futuristic Hotels
33:27 - The Church of AI
42:00 - Running talk
52:50 - George the Dog
1:00:26 - Saying Goodbye to Atreyu Running
1:16:40 - Asics Metaspeed Edge Tokyo

Thomas traveled up the Spotify Studio in NYC where he sat down with Brendan Dunne from Complex. They chat about running culture, the crossover between performance and lifestyle shoes and dive into Brendan’s personal running.

Follow Brendan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brendandunne/?hl=en

Read his stories on Complex: https://www.complex.com/author/brendan-dunne

We've returned from our separate corners of the country and assemble to recap our individual weeks, including time spent in Colorado, Thomas's journey to the Spotify studios in NYC, and Meg's Minnesota sojourn. Plus, we talk about the Mount to Coast T1 and the very good update in the Mizuno Neo Vista 2.

Shop The Meg High Pony Hat ➡ https://shop.believeintherun.com/products/the-meg-fractel-x-believe-edition

Shop the Robbe Raccoon Legionnaire ➡ https://shop.believeintherun.com/products/fractel-x-believe-robbe-raccoon-signature-legionnaire

JOIN US ON THE RUN!

Saturday, June 21 @ 8:00 a.m.

Mount to Coast X BITR Trail Run - June 21, 8am

Location: Patapsco State Park, Soapstone Trail Head (park at Southwest Park and Ride, 1171 S. Rolling Road, Catonsville, MD)

Join us and Mount to Coast for the release of the all-new T1 trail shoe. We'll have 3 and 6.66 mile options followed by burgers from Kooper's food truck and apres run beverages. We'll also have multiple giveaways of Mount to Coast trail shoes!

Cost: FREE

RSVP here: https://mailchi.mp/believeintherun/mounttocoast

SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!

SWIFTWICK

The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick is made right here in the USA, which means no price increases on account of tariffs. We're always running in their socks and you should be too. The Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15. Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

PILLAR

Ensuring NN Running athletes continue to take podiums and claim records, PILLAR Performance gets them to start lines in the best condition possible. Recovery is crucial to managing training loads, and adequately preparing for race day. This is why PILLAR's Triple Magnesium provides a high dosage of Magnesium Bisglycinate to boost the recovery score on your wearable. Enter code BITR on The Feed to receive 15% off your first order, and track the difference yourself: https://thefeed.com/products/pillar-performance

LMNT

NEW FLAVOR ALERT! Squeeze the most out of summer with LMNT’s new limited-time Lemonade Salt — salty, tart, and refreshing, it brings you the best of summer wherever you are. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX

0:00 - Intro

2:02 - Robbe in Colorado / The REI Situation

17:09 - Celebrity Talk

24:34 - France Banning Outdoor Smoking

27:12 - Move Her Mind Event Series Minneapolis

34:04 - Fractal Collab Hat

37:33 - Thomas's NYC Trip

58:01 - Shoe/apparel talk

1:06:16 - Scott Jurek and David Blaine In The Same Room

1:13:31 - Mizuno Neo Vista 2

1:19:50 - Believe Run Club Presents: Slow Roast Sunday

1:21:07 - Grand Slam Track Philadelphia / Enhanced Games

If you're listening to this episode, you know that running changes lives. If it's changed anyone's life, it's certainly done so for Terence Gerchberg, who used running to help dig him out of a deep pit of gambling addiction. Eventually, it brought him to where he is today as CEO of Back On My Feet, an organization that works with people experiencing homelessness or addiction, empowering them to achieve economic independence through running and community. We talk about his life from past until present (including his experience on the Amazing Race), how running has transformed his life, and how he's using it to change others.
Learn more about Back On My Feet: https://backonmyfeet.org/

Fresh off Memorial Day weekend and all of its misadventures, we accept the impossible mission of talking about running during a running podcast. But first – Summer GRIT is almost sold out, so get in if you still can. We also recap our past week of running, which included lost keys and trail runs in the Mount to Coast T1. Eventually, we talk about the Skechers Aero Spark, a really great trainer coming in at a $130 price point. This message will self destruct in five seconds.

INDEX:

0:00 Intro

4:14 - Pickleball 

6:18 - Memorial Day Weekend

26:50 - Mount-To-Coast T1 

32:18 - Summer GRIT / Ice Cream Talk

43:49 - GRIT Gamblin'

52:15 - Robbe’s Pup

54:35 - Mission: Impossible / Tom Cruise 

1:01:46 - Bolder Boulder 

1:02:40 - Skechers Aero Spark

JOIN US ON THE RUN!
Wednesday, June 4 @ 6:30 p.m.
Global Run Day Crew Challenge w/ BITR, Charm City Run, and Brooks
Location: Patterson Park at Eastern & Linwood Ave., Baltimore, MD
Bring your crew, run some miles, get some Goodr sunglasses, and have a blast!
Cost: FREE
Register here: https://runsignup.com/Race/MD/Baltimore/GlobalRunningDayChallengePattersonPark

Saturday, June 21 @ 8:00 a.m.
Mount to Coast X BITR Trail Run - June 21, 8am
Location: Patapsco State Park, Soapstone Trail Head (park at Southwest Park and Ride, 1171 S. Rolling Road)
Join us and Mount to Coast for the release of the all-new T1 trail shoe. We'll have 3 and 6.66 mile options followed by burgers from Kooper's food truck and apres run beverages. We'll also have multiple giveaways of Mount to Coast trail shoes!
Cost: FREE
RSVP here: https://mailchi.mp/believeintherun/mounttocoast

SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!

LMNT

NEW FLAVOR ALERT! Squeeze the most out of summer with LMNT’s new limited-time Lemonade Salt — salty, tart, and refreshing, it brings you the best of summer wherever you are. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

SWIFTWICK
The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick is made right here in the USA, which means no price increases on account of tariffs. We're always running in their socks and you should be too. The Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15. Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

LAGOON PILLOWS
We use Lagoon to get our best sleep and you should too. Featuring super soft covers, Certi-Pur foam and customizable features, they'll help you find the best pillow for your sleeping style. Visit them at http://lagoonsleep.com/believe and use the discount code BELIEVE for 15% off your first order.

Thomas chats with Zach Litoff, a San Francisco based artist and designer with a love of athletics who as done work for clients like Hoka, Nike, Endorphins Running, and more.
Follow Zach on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/litoffstudios

We know everyone was concerned, but yes, we did in fact live through the 2025 Baltimore Tornado (though sadly many of the trees in our favorite little park did not). In other news, Summer GRIT registration opens on Monday at 9 a.m. ET! You know the drill, so make sure you get in before it sells out. We also try and figure out how a brand new pair of Jordans are the same price as an entry level running shoe. Speaking of running shoes, we also go more in-depth on the New Balance FuelCell Rebel v5.

Learn more and register for Summer GRIT: https://believeintherun.com/grit

SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!

LMNT

NEW FLAVOR ALERT! Squeeze the most out of summer with LMNT’s new limited-time Lemonade Salt — salty, tart, and refreshing, it brings you the best of summer wherever you are.

Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

SWIFTWICK

The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick is made right here in the USA, which means no price increases on account of tariffs. We're always running in their socks and you should be too. The Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15.

Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

PILLAR

Ensuring NN Running athletes continue to take podiums and claim records, PILLAR Performance gets them to start lines in the best condition possible. Recovery is crucial to managing training loads, and adequately preparing for race day. This is why PILLAR's Triple Magnesium provides a high dosage of Magnesium Bisglycinate to boost the recovery score on your wearable.

Enter code BITR on The Feed to receive 15% off your first order, and track the difference yourself:

https://thefeed.com/products/pillar-performance

LAGOON PILLOWS

We use Lagoon to get our best sleep and you should too. Featuring super soft covers, Certi-Pur foam and customizable features, they'll help you find the best pillow for your sleeping style. Visit them at http://lagoonsleep.com/believe and use the discount code BELIEVE for 15% off your first order.

INDEX

00:00 INTRO

00:48 - Summer GRIT and Upcoming Events

12:20 - Public Etiquette

18:43 - Brooklyn Half

20:16 - Traction on the Adidas Pro Evo 2

25:31 - Running Shoe Talk

34:18 - Toe Talk

37:28 - Tornado in Baltimore

44:54 - Country Music

48:21 - Move Her Mind Event Series

1:02:17 - Zyn City

1:07:18 - More Running and Shoe Talk

1:13:45 - New Balance Rebel V5

1:30:41 - Miscellaneous Nonsense

Thomas sits town with Taesun Kim, footwear designer at Puma, to chat all about running shoes and his background.

Baltimore is on the rebound and we're doing our best to keep the ball bouncing. Speaking of bouncing, we pinball around from organ donation to Skechers stock, to Meg's very desirable Beanie Babies collection. We also talk about the Brooks Ghost Max 3 and Brooks Ghost 17, since this is a shoe review channel, after all.
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LA SPORTIVA
Introducing the Prodigio Pro Running Shoe from La Sportiva—crafted for ultrarunners, trail addicts, or anyone chasing their next big effort. With XFlow Speed, a dual-super critical nitrogen-infused EVA and TPU midsole technology, AND an ultralight Power Wire mesh upper - it’s responsive, durable, and ready for any terrain. Go farther, go faster! Get our full thoughts on one of the best trail shoes of 2025 and pick it up at the link in the review: https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/la-sportiva-prodigio-pro-review/
Shop the La Sportiva Prodigio Pro: https://alnk.to/6mRuqAT
SWIFTWICK
The best running socks in the game, we're always running in the Flite XT and you should be too. The Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15. Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe
LMNT
NEW FLAVOR ALERT! Just in time for summer, LMNT just dropped an all-new Lemonade Salt flavor and it may be their best one yet. We've been crushing it after every run to restore our salt and electrolyte supplies. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

PILLAR

Ensuring NN Running athletes continue to take podiums and claim records, PILLAR Performance gets them to start lines in the best condition possible. Recovery is crucial to managing training loads, and adequately preparing for race day. This is why PILLAR's Triple Magnesium provides a high dosage of Magnesium Bisglycinate to boost the recovery score on your wearable. Enter code BITR on The Feed to receive 15% off your first order, and track the difference yourself: ⁠https://thefeed.com/products/pillar-performance
INDEX
00:00 - Intro
4:47 - Meg's trip to NYC with Superfeet / Move Her Mind Ridgefield
13:32 - Move Her Mind Event Series (Meg’s media, )
15:06 - Organ donation
21:50 - Asics Metaspeed Tokyo Edge/Sky
27:55 - Thomas’s weekend trail race
34:17 - Robbe’s weekend in PA
47:25 - Training talk
59:20 - 5 Hour Energies and B-Vitamins
1:03:00 - Skechers Stock and hurricane cash machines
1:07:35 - Princess Diana Beanie Babies
1:17:20 - Shoe talk (Brooks Ghost Max 3, Brook Ghost 17)
1:28:02 - Turnstile's Hometown Gig

Bimma Williams is a Collab Marketing Educator recognized by HYPEBEAST as The Voice of Collabs. With over a decade of experience, he has helped brands like Nike, Yeezy, adidas, and Saucony generate $1.5 billion+ in revenue through strategic collaborations.

His insights have been featured in Forbes, Complex, Business Insider, HYPEBEAST, UPROXX, and VIBE. His viral Instagram series, Collab Lab, has reached 15 million views in 12 months, breaking down what makes brand partnerships successful.

Follow Bimma on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bimmawilliams

Back to Baltimore, which means more running and more package thieves coming after the summer 2025 Saucony collection. We recap our saga of tracking down shoes, while running in some sizzling heaters for the summer, including the Brooks Hyperion Max 3, Nike Streakfly 2, and Adidas Adios Pro Evo 2. Karl also wraps up his London experience.

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LA SPORTIVA

Introducing the Prodigio Pro running shoe from La Sportiva—crafted for ultrarunners, trail addicts, or anyone chasing their next big effort. With XFlow Speed, a dual-super critical nitrogen-infused EVA and TPU midsole technology, AND an ultralight Power Wire mesh upper - it’s responsive, durable, and ready for any terrain. Go farther, go faster!

Get our full thoughts on one of the best trail shoes of 2025: https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/la-sportiva-prodigio-pro-review/

Shop the La Sportiva Prodigio Pro: https://alnk.to/6mRuqAT

SWIFTWICK
The best running socks in the game, we're always running in the Flite XT and you should be too. The Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15.

Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

LMNT
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INDEX

00:00 - Intro

1:55 - Shoe theft

20:08 - Old school tech talk

28:48 - Epic Water Filters

43:00 - Shoe talk

1:01:00 - Karl’s London Trip

1:09:00 - TV's and Movies, Max Discovery

1:20:00 - Protein chips and Snow Cones

Robbe chats with Henry Abbott, basketball expert and former ESPN journalist, about his new book "Ballistic: The New Science of Injury-Free Athletic Performance," which explores groundbreaking new approaches to athletic training, injury prevention, and enhancing performance using “ballistic” movements. The book reveals a surprising takeaway: The explosive moves and ground impacts we often avoid in everyday workouts might provide the secret to an injury-free athletic life. As you can imagine, we talk about injury, prevention, and what it looks like to reimagine how we assess injury.

Pick up "Ballistic: The New Science of Injury-Free Athletic Performance": https://www.amazon.com/Ballistic-Science-Injury-Free-Athletic-Performance/dp/1324050136

Subscribe to Henry's True Hoop Substack: https://www.truehoop.com/

(Sorry about Robbe's audio on this one, lost the original and had to use the backup.)

Spring marathon season comes to a close, as Thomas and Meaghan run the London Marathon and barely make it back across the Atlantic alive as you'll see in this episode. It's been a real limp to the finish, but we're back and we're ready to relax ...oh wait, Meg heads out on the Move Her Mind tour with ASICS next week and Summer GRIT registration is just around the corner (Memorial Day). Anyway, buckle up and strap on the oxygen mask, you're gonna need it.

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Thomas met Toby Tanser while on his recent trip to Kenya and immediately knew he had to have him on the podcast. Shoe4Africa originated 30 years ago from Toby's vision of harnessing the power of sports to create positive change for African children. Initially focused on collecting and distributing athletic shoes to aspiring young runners in Kenya their efforts expanded to address broader issues, including healthcare and education. Currently operating with only one paid staff member, Shoe4Africa has built East and Central Africa’s first public children’s hospital, which has treated over 1.2 million children. Beyond healthcare, they’ve established six free-to-attend schools, a Boys and Girls Club, and generated hundreds of jobs, all while distributing over 6 million meals to those in need.Learn more about Shoe4Africa: https://shoe4africa.org/Follow Shoe4Africa on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shoe4africa/

We've returned from the Super Bowl of running – the 129th Boston Marathon – but first, we made a couple detours to the emergency room and the Cheesecake Factory. for a dose of pain pills and fine dining, respectively. Then it was a slew of events, including an incredible opening night with Adidas, running the B.A.A. 5K, a fun and festive marathon track relay with New Balance, the always epic shakeout with Asics, then front row seats to the best World Major of them all. Thanks to everyone who came out to one or more of the events or said hello at some point during the weekend. And congrats to Crossing-The Finish Karl, Lo, Aubrey, and all the other 28,000+ finishers of the Boston Marathon. It was an amazing sight to see.

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We sat down with Charlotte and Ben from the Adidas team while in Boston for marathon weekend to chat all about the new Boston 13. We had a few audio issues but we hope you enjoy this fun chat!

A few days out from Boston and one week out from London, so of course the taper crazies are coming on strong, as well as a well-timed viral infection. Meg lays low while Thomas and Robbe take the reins in recounting a trip abroad, the comeback of the receding hairline (thanks White Lotus), the joys of driving a manual car, and more. We also cover the Puma Fast-R 3, the first shoe since the Nike Vaporfly to show independent lab studies of 3% performance gains when compared against competitors. Wild times.

Come see us at the New Balance Relay in Boston, hang out, grab a sweet custom t-shirt. Details here, it's free and no RSVP necessary: https://believeintherun.com/event/team-marathon-relay-at-the-track-at-new-balance/

Don't miss the always epic Asics Boston shakeout run on Sunday morning in Boston! First 500 to show up will get a custom corduroy cap. Details here, no RSVP necessary: https://believeintherun.com/event/asics-boston-marathon-shakeout-run-2025/

WAHOO FITNESS

Discover the KICKR RUN, a groundbreaking reimagination of the treadmill from Wahoo. Its innovative RunFree mode lets you run naturally—automatically adjusting to your pace without having to press a button. Plus, effortlessly sync with training devices to optimize your indoor workouts and achieve your goals. Learn more: https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/?rfsn=8167444.8594e18

SWIFTWICK

The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick just launched their new spring collection this week, and Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15. Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

LMNT

It’s warming up, which means you’re sweating more, which means you need more salt. Like, a lot more. Luckily, LMNT has 1000 mg of the stuff, as well as potassium and magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

MICHAEL BONSBY HVAC

We talk a lot about performance and recovery—but let’s be real, if your home’s not comfortable, neither is your training. That’s why we teamed up with Michael Bonsby HVAC, a local Maryland legend and part of the Zephyr Home Services crew. They helped us out big time, and now they’re offering Believe in the Run listeners $50 off any service or new install. Spring is almost here, so get ready to elevate your cool down after this summer’s hottest runs. They’ve got you covered, so book your service now at www.michaelbonsbyhvac.com.

We sit down with Dr. Desmond Wilson, Eternal's Chief Medical Officer. He's a doctor, avid trail runner and talks to us about aging as an athlete. Eternal is new healthcare service tailored to performance for athletes, which just launched in San Francisco and New York. Eternal provides a proactive, science-backed approach to help athletes better understand their changing bodies, optimize peak performance, and continue excelling as they age.

The boys are back in town, except now Robbe has ventured off to Spain. But that's okay, as Karl joins Thomas and Meg in front of the camera this week to recap their adventure in Kenya with Kiprun to unveil their new race shoe, the KD900X LAB - a 5K/10K racer which seems pretty promising. Plus, Meg recaps her time in D.C. for the start of the Asics Move Her Mind Event Series as well as racing the Cherry Blossom 10 Miler. This episode is a pretty long one, so hopefully you're running enough miles out there to cover the entire thing.

WAHOO FITNESS

Discover the KICKR RUN, a groundbreaking reimagination of the treadmill from Wahoo. Its innovative RunFree mode lets you run naturally—automatically adjusting to your pace without having to press a button. Plus, effortlessly sync with training devices to optimize your indoor workouts and achieve your goals.

Learn more: https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/?rfsn=8167444.8594e18

SWIFTWICK

The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick just launched their new spring collection this week, and Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15. Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

LMNT

It’s warming up, which means you’re sweating more, which means you need more salt. Like, a lot more. Luckily, LMNT has 1000 mg of the stuff, as well as potassium and magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

MICHAEL BONSBY HVAC

We talk a lot about performance and recovery—but let’s be real, if your home’s not comfortable, neither is your training. That’s why we teamed up with Michael Bonsby HVAC, a local Maryland legend and part of the Zephyr Home Services crew. They helped us out big time, and now they’re offering Believe in the Run listeners $50 off any service or new install. Spring is almost here, so get ready to elevate your cool down after this summer’s hottest runs. They’ve got you covered, so book your service now at www.michaelbonsbyhvac.com.

We got Erin Azar back on the show, even though she’s officially too cool for us. This time, she’s talking casual convos with NFL players, her marathon training for London (using the Galloway method), and her very chill philosophy on doing less. Erin is down-to-earth and effortlessly funny and we hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did.

Thomas and Karl are off galavanting in Kenya, so we recorded this on a Friday, which is always questionable. We cover the usual nonsense, talk about the Nike Vaporfly, and petition some brand, somewhere, to take us up on our offer to have a real life unicorn in Boston. Robbe also gives us his review of the King of Moab, a trail running documentary that– spoiler alert– is pretty great. There’s also a lot of shoe talk at the end, so go listen wherever you enjoy your favorite podcasts.

SAYSKYExperience the premium quality and unique design of the SAYSKY collection. Check it out now at saysky.com and use code DROP15 to save. WAHOO FITNESS Discover the KICKR RUN, a groundbreaking reimagination of the treadmill from Wahoo. Its innovative RunFree mode lets you run naturally—automatically adjusting to your pace without having to press a button. Plus, effortlessly sync with training devices to optimize your indoor workouts and achieve your goals. Learn more: https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/?rfsn=8167444.8594e18 LMNTIt’s warming up, which means you’re sweating more, which means you need more salt. Like, a lot more. Luckily, LMNT has 1000 mg of the stuff, as well as potassium and magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedropMICHAEL BONSBY HVAC We talk a lot about performance and recovery—but let’s be real, if your home’s not comfortable, neither is your training. That’s why we teamed up with Michael Bonsby HVAC, a local Maryland legend and part of the Zephyr Home Services crew. They helped us out big time, and now they’re offering Believe in the Run listeners $50 off any service or new install. Spring is almost here, so get ready to elevate your cool down after this summer’s hottest runs. They’ve got you covered, so book your service now at www.michaelbonsbyhvac.com.

Thomas spoke with Kyle Awtry, founder of Sauri Running—a niche running brand based out of LA. 

If you've ever looked a Canadian goose in the eye, well, you know you've seen pure evil. Today on the podcast, we talk about encounters with geese, jury duty in Baltimore, shark cages, and Karl's latest emo hit titled "Heartbreak Hill." We also talk about a few other shoes, including more experiences in the Tracksmith Eliot Racer and the Veja Condor 3 Advanced.

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Discover the KICKR RUN, a groundbreaking reimagination of the treadmill from Wahoo. Its innovative RunFree mode lets you run naturally—automatically adjusting to your pace without having to press a button. Plus, effortlessly sync with training devices to optimize your indoor workouts and achieve your goals. Learn more: https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/?rfsn=8167444.8594e18

SWIFTWICK

The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick just launched their new spring collection this week, and Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15. Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

LMNT

It’s warming up, which means you’re sweating more, which means you need more salt. Like, a lot more. Luckily, LMNT has 1000 mg of the stuff, as well as potassium and magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

MICHAEL BONSBY HVAC

We talk a lot about performance and recovery—but let’s be real, if your home’s not comfortable, neither is your training. That’s why we teamed up with Michael Bonsby HVAC, a local Maryland legend and part of the Zephyr Home Services crew. They helped us out big time, and now they’re offering Believe in the Run listeners $50 off any service or new install. Spring is almost here, so get ready to elevate your cool down after this summer’s hottest runs. They’ve got you covered, so book your service now at www.michaelbonsbyhvac.com.

INDEX

3:05 - Favorite Seasons / Second Summer

5:28 - TV talk

13:00 - Boston Marathon course / Getting your heart actually broken at Heartbreak Hill

20:51 - Dolphins and sharks

27:00 - Evil Geese

31:20 - Robbe's Jury Duty experience

38:37 - Nepo Babies

42:15 - The Speed Project / Barkley Marathon / HAT 50K

1:07:06 - Weightlifting talk

1:09:00 - Shoe talk

1:16:00 - Tracksmith Signs Steph Bruce / Puma "Got High" ad

1:22:34 - Veja Condor 3 Advanced

One of the most fascinating athletes in the marathon scene right now, CJ Albertson is doing it his way and succeeding at every step of the way. From racking up ultra high mileage weeks to dropping it down to almost nothing in between cycles, to juggling running and a full-time job as a professor, coach and dad, all while managing to come out with top-10 finishes at the Olympic Trials, NYC Marathon, Boston Marathon, Chicago Marathon, and CIM. And that was just in 2024. This was such a great look inside the training and accomplishments of one of the best American marathoners right now.

Follow CJ on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cjalbertson/

Check out our Brooks running reviews: https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/type/road/?shoe_brand=971

Spring means one thing– the reemergence of snot slugs on the faces of marathoners. Just like this podcast, running ain't pretty, but we're good about putting lipstick on a pig, so we try to do it here by throwing in some talk about the LA Marathon and NYC Half Marathon. Also, let's say it for the record: don't take NSAIDs before or during a race. But DO take Zbiotics* afterwards.

*Does not consitute as medical advice, consult your doctor before and after listening to The Drop or celebrating St. Paddy's with Karl

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We’ve got a new series on YouTube that follows Thomas’ training to London using the Wahoo Kickr Run Treadmill. Follow along every Frida, and watch episode 2 ⁠here⁠. You can learn more about the runner-focused treadmill (including seamless elevation and pace changes) and purchase one ⁠here⁠.

LMNT

It’s warming up, which means you’re sweating more, which means you need more salt. Like, a lot more. Luckily, LMNT has 1000 mg of the stuff, as well as potassium and magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX

00:00 - Intro

5:08 - Streaking, Movie Talk, Looney Tunes

15:23 - NYC Half Marathon

20:48 - LA Marathon 2025

28:03 - ZBiotics

31:42 - Advil + Influencer Campaign

45:10 - Training Talk

1:08:47 - Gym Talk

1:12:28 - Shoe Talk (Diadora Atomo Star)

In-studio guests are always the best, and since Speedland is always doing their best to be the best, it only made sense that they'd come to Baltimore to hang out. Robbe talks with founders Dave Dombrow and Kevin Fallon about upcoming 2025 models, including the RX:FPY, the brand's first-ever road shoe (now available for pre-order). This is a great episode for all you industry folks and shoe nerds, to see what goes into getting a small footwear brand off the ground.
Check out Speedland: https://www.runspeedland.com/
Follow Speedland on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runspeedland/

Southwest is basically Spirit Plus now, which makes this podcast Spirit Minus, but don’t worry– we’ll never charge you for all that baggage you’re carrying around. Zero guarantees this plane stays on course, because right after liftoff we veer right into King Richard III, Baltimore ice cream trucks, and our favorite variations of the Mandela Effect. Also, a couple of us signed up for the JFK 50 Miler, for better or for worse. Finally, we talk about the Tracksmith Eliot Racer, a surprisingly capable race day shoe with a super bouncy, dual layer ATPU and PEBAX midsole.

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Experience the premium quality and unique design of the PUMA x SAYSKY collection. Check it out now at saysky.com and use code DROP15 to save.

SWIFTWICK
The best running socks in the game, Swiftwick just launched their new spring collection this week, and Drop listeners can get 15% off their first purchase with code BELIEVE15. Shop here: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

WAHOO FITNESS

We’ve got a new series on YouTube that follows Thomas’ training to London using the Wahoo Kickr Run Treadmill. Follow along every Frida, and watch episode 2 here. You can learn more about the runner-focused treadmill (including seamless elevation and pace changes) and purchase one here.

LMNT
It’s warming up, which means you’re sweating more, which means you need more salt. Like, a lot more. Luckily, LMNT has 1000 mg of the stuff, as well as potassium and magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX
00:00 - Intro
4:11 - Richard III found under parking lot
18:43 - Baltimore Ice Cream Trucks
21:28 - Southwest Airlines newest baggage policy
27:41 - Nerds Gummy Clusters
30:58 - JFK 50 Miler
42:58 - Training Talks / Wahoo Kickr RUN
56:21 - The Mandela Effect
1:00:46 - Horror Movies
1:02:47 - Puma x Saysky
1:06:47 - Canadian Bacon vs. Bacon
1:12:00 - Shoe talk (Tracksmith Eliot Racer)

A good collab is a great thing, and the all-new Puma x Saysky footwear and apparel collection hits all the right spots. We head up to Puma HQ in Boston to check out the collection and sit down for a podcast discussion with Saysky founder Lars C. Pedersen, as well as Puma designers and product line managers. Get the background on how it all came together, what went into the designs, and how much teamwork it takes to get a collaboration off the ground and into your hands.
The Puma x Saysky collection features three key footwear silhouettes (ForeveRun Nitro 2, Deviate Nitro 3 and Deviate Nitro Elite 3), as well as a full range of men's and women's apparel. It launches globally on March 13 at 11:00 AM CET, and will be available to purchase on PUMA.com, SAYSKY.com, in PUMA Flagship stores and in select retailers across the globe.

It's a sign of the times that we ended up talking about the Tokyo Marathon, but first– we cover all the food topics we can with cockroach milk, Wendy's Thin Mint Frostys, Hop Water, and maybe some watermelon sugar (sounds like a great flavor of LMNT). Then we tie it all together with the Puma ForeverRun Nitro 2, a very comfortable and bouncy stability shoe, with just the right amount of support.

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We've made a huge mistake and gave Karl a dedicated microphone. Robbe's taken aback by his golden voice, but the show goes on with a recap of our visit to Puma headquarters, overview on the Hoka Clifton 10, first thoughts on the Norda 005, and Thomas's recap of a raucous weekend with Taylor, head of the BITR Dirt Division.

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INDEX

00:00 Intro

1:08 - Garfield & Friends

3:57 - Lagoon Pillows

6:00 - Boston Puma Trip

6:58 - Cheesecake Factory gift card

46:34 - Tattoos

49:49 - A Weekend in Baltimore with Taylor

1:07:30 - Shoe talk

So many things happening in running right now, and not enough time to talk about them all. So we'll make sure to cover the rest. From Barcelona to BU to Blue from Old School, we keep you on the front lines of all the things you need to know, including Severance recaps and Starbucks rebrands. We also talk about the Diadora Gara Carbon 2, which we're pretty sure is just the Diadora Gara Carbon 1, but hey– it's still a great shoe.
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Enter to win https://www.soarrunning.com/en-us/blogs/news/believe-in-the-run-x-soar
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Some of our favorite episodes are the conversations with the people behind the shoes. Richard Kuchinsky is a running shoe designer and founder of the Directive Collective Design Studios. He's worked with a number of brands over the years, seeking to combine aesthetics with performance in the best way possible. Hope you enjoy this conversation with Thomas about shoe design, trends, and everything behind what you wear on your feet.
Follow Richard: https://www.instagram.com/rkuchinsky/
Follow Directive Collective: https://www.instagram.com/directivecollective/

Always fun when you have to re-record an entire episode. That's what we had to do this week (after recording one of our best episodes over). We tried to replicate it the best we could by recapping the Super Bowl and the Millrose Games, marveling at Skechers audacity and insistence on ripping off On, and reminsicing about smoky dive bars and 8-bit video games. We also talk about the On Cloudsurfer 2, a daily trainer and first shoe of the On "SOFT WINS" campaign.
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We've partnered with SOAR to offer one lucky listener a SOAR Race Vest and Marathon Shorts to update their racing wardrobe. Simply sign up to receive SOAR email offers and news and one runner will be chosen at random and notified after 28/02/2025.Enter to winhttps://www.soarrunning.com/en-us/blogs/news/believe-in-the-run-x-soar
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Live from the beautiful and warm waters of Miami, Florida, the Believe in the Run duo of Thomas and Meaghan chat with Val Weilert (Senior Designer Manager of Performance Road Footwear) and Rebekah Broh (Senior Director of Product) of Hoka about all things Bondi 9 and Cielo X1 2.0. Get a look behind the scenes of what goes into footwear design and development at Hoka.

Read the review of the Hoka Cielo X1 2.0 ➡ https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/hoka-cielo-x1-2-0-review/

Read the review of the Hoka Bondi 9 ➡ https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/hoka-bondi-9-review/

On this episode of The Drop, we recap our time running the Miami Half Marathon in the Hoka Cielo X1 2.0 and our group run that we hosted from a yacht. It was hot, it was fun, we want to go back.

If you're in Florida, check out Simmi's Bakehouse! ➡ https://simmisbakehouse.com/

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SOARWe've partnered with SOAR to offer one lucky listener a SOAR Race Vest and Marathon Shorts to update their racing wardrobe. Simply sign up to receive SOAR email offers and news and one runner will be chosen at random and notified after 28/02/2025.Enter to win https://www.soarrunning.com/en-us/blogs/news/believe-in-the-run-x-soar

There's a hole in this ship and the only that can fix it Billy Mays (RIP) and flex tape. Even then, probably not. This week on The Drop, we surprisingly do talk a good bit about running, including the strength of our trail team, Paris Fashion Week, whether or not we know what intervals and repeats mean. We also discuss the totally wild and renewed version of the Hoka Cielo X1 2.0.

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Completing 100 Ironman-length triathlons in 100 days seems like hell, but James Lawrence set out to do it. And he did it. Hear about his journey and read all about it in his new book, "Iron Hope."

Our brains are mostly frozen, which is how we went a whole podcast forgetting to give our respect to Conner Mantz at the Houston Marathon. But we do manage to talk about running shoes, including the Brooks Glycerin 22, while mixing in a whole bunch of other interests, including our favorite TV shows of all-time.
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Keira D’Amato is back on the podcast (previously on Ep11, 100 and 292) for another fun conversation and a big announcement! Keira has always worn several hats (pro-athlete, realtor, oreo-reviewer, mom, to name a few) but she’s on the show to add yet another one: author. In her new book, Don’t Call it a Comeback, Keira relives her unusual, challenging, hilarious, un-filtered, fun, inspiring running journey and brings us all along for the ride.

Go ahead and pre-order this one: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/dont-call-it-9781250344946/

Last weekend was a blast running with the GRIT gang here in Baltimore, so in this week's episode of The Drop, we recap that. Meg was having the worst run ever in Charleston, so she dives into that, as well as how she got to see the Bob Dylan movie six months in advance. We also cover the return of Shelby Houlihan and the state of Strava before getting into all the details of the Hoka Bondi 9.

We'll going to Miami! Come join us for a shakeout run and hang out with us on a freakin' yacht, where you can demo the Bondi 9 and snag some free swag, including a pair of Goodr sunglasses. RSVP here:

Read the review of the Hoka Bondi 9: https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/hoka-bondi-9-review/

INDEX

00:00 Intro

03:15 GRIT Party Recap

12:14 Meg in Charleston

21:16 What about Bobs?

28:12 Shelby is back

42:00 Sträva sniping

51:05 Winter Gear

55:37 Weightlifting report

1:05:50 Hoka Bondi 9

Kicking the new year off right with trying to figure out if pigeons are halal, the legacy of the Donner Party, hologram bracelets and very non-Eastern philosophies, Winter GRIT updates, and Meg's new foray into sourdough bread baking. Also, we talk about the Anta C202 5 GT, which sounds like a droid name, and more thoughts on the Asics Gel-Nimbus 27. We'll also be in Miami at the end of the month, so maybe we'll see you there. INDEX 00:00 Intro 04:17 Asics Gel-Nimbus 27 06:42 GRIT Update 09:27 Halal Pigeons 24:13 Holograms 33:30 ChatGPT 47:56 Xmas Presents 1:00:00 Sourdough 1:02:38 Anta C202 5 GT 1:15:27 Miami

Running is great, but what about runnning a running specialty store? That's what Victor Diaz does as owner and operator of Renegade Running in Oakland, California, an independent run store featuring a curated collection of the best footwear and apparel in the industry. Thomas talks with Victor about business, run culture, and much more.

Check out Renegade Running: https://renegade-running.com/

Follow Renegade Running on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renegade_running

In our final installment of the team's origin stories, we visit the life and times of Meaghan Murray. If it's not already obvious, Meg is the glue that holds this house of cards together, and you'll see why after listening to this episode. From growing up in Maryland to going to school in Charleston to finally getting into running and absolutely crushing it with dedication and consistency, she finally gets a chance to tell her story with only minor interruptions from the peanut gallery. Hope you enjoy and thanks for all your kind thoughts and words on our origin stories over the last few weeks.

We made it to the end of another year and we couldn't have done it without you. We recap the highs and lows (mostly highs) while diving into some shoe and gear talk, including the Brooks Hyperion Elite PB 4, a race day shoe that finally shows what Brooks is capable of. We're taking off next week for the first time ever, thanks so much for sticking with us, we hope you have a wonderful holiday season a happy new year.

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We go straight to the source for this week's origin story. Thomas Neuberger is the founder of Believe in the Run and this is his life story. From the streets of San Francisco to the subways of New York City to the city of Baltimore, we cover it all in great detail. Thanks for allowing us to do what we do and for sticking along for the ride. Follow Thomas on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tfneuberger/

It's the most wonderful time of the year, when the Believe in the Run team wears their favorite Christmas sweaters and gathers around an invisible fire for an hour-long bedtime story. Hopefully Santa will come and deliver the Mizuno Neo Zen to all the good boys and girls because it's a pretty fantastic shoe. SHOP THE STUFF WE TALK ABOUT

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Feels weird to write this about myself, but Robbe is co-host of The Drop running podcast, director of website affairs, editor in chief of Believe in the Run, father of raccoons, urban redneck, hot and cold runner, music maker and dreamer of dreams. This is his story, his history, from beginning to end (with honestly, a lot left out). It's been a wild ride, and thanks to all of you for coming along– it's been the honor of a lifetime to know you and I forever indebted to all of you for allowing me to do this with my life.

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It's beginning to feel a lot like Nimbmas around here, with the upcoming release of this Asics Gel-Nimbus 27. But first, we give you all the details on our week of Christmas movies and recommendations, Robbe's personal Baltimore crime report, earthworm calling, and also thoughts on the afterlife. Quite a range of nonsense.

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Get to know the head of trail running here at Believe in the Run, Taylor Bodin. A Minnesota native, Taylor joins the ranks of legends like Courtney Dauwalter and Scott Jurek who have left the land of a thousand lakes for the mountains of 14,000 feet. Over the past five years, Taylor has reviewed hundreds of trail running shoes, and will be lined up for even more as he joins the team full time in 2025.

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This week, we recap our Turkey Trots and turkey naps, give you our favorite Christmas rom-coms, and finally get into the Saucony Endorphin Elite 2, one of our most favorite Saucony shoes ever.

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Coming at you live from the floor of The Running Event (hence the audio) from inside the Satisfy booth, Thomas and Robbe chat with ultrarunning legend and Possessed Magazine cover boy Scott Jurek about growing up in Minnesota, fishing, transitioning into different stages of running and life, and how to not break your ankles while running on the pile of rocks known as the Pennsylvania section of the Appalachian Trail. We also somehow forgot to ask him about @yaboyscottjurek (not his account), which was our only regret.

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We have endured the long odyssey known as The Running Event, and have returned to you with treasures galore, i.e. information on what's hot and what's not for 2025. It was a nonstop ride with over 25 meetings in 48 hours to see what's coming, and we try to give you our best analysis, in between getting sidetracked. Also, Meg may have been trafficked without knowing it. Guess we'll find out when the court docs are unsealed!
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Thomas and Meg talk to Claire Wood, VP of Prodouct Creation at SOREL and long-time industry person about running, trends, and a whole bunch more.

Meg is out, Karl is in, for this episode of The Drop, which means it's just chaos without our guardrails in place. From our thoughts on homesteading and van life to mid-run conversations with strangers to the horror cinema classic Tales From the Hood, we cover all the unimportant things in live before finally getting around to the On Cloudboom LS and Nike Pegasus Premium.
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INDEX
00:00 Intro
00:30 Sorry, Meg
1:17:12 On Cloudboom LS
1:21:46 Nike Pegasus Premium

Good socks mean good running, and we've always been a huge fan of Swiftwick for our feet. This week, we have an in-studio interview with new CEO Mark Chou about all things running and running a business and what's new for his made-in-the-U.S.A. apparel brand.
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We'll be real– we don't even remember what happened during this train wreck of an episode that involved a debate on the consistency of ice rinks, reaching the end of the Instagram algorithm, the ongoing beef of Puma vs. Brooks, chicken soup for the soul, and terrible investing advice. Believe it or not, we eventually get around to the Nike Zoom Fly 6 and Asics Novablast 5.
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Read "Go Ahead, Dogpile on Matt Choi": https://believeintherun.com/go-ahead-dogpile-on-matt-choi/
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INDEX
00:00 Intro
00:30 A string of random stuff
55:56 Asics Novablast 5
1:03:08 Nike Zoom Fly 6
1:19:00 Winter GRIT Info

A wild and wonderful songwriter from the great state of West Virginia, Charles Wesley Godwin is also a passionate runner who incorporates it into his life both on and off the road. In this episode, Robbe chats with him about music, touring, Venus fly traps, baseball, The Avett Brothers, and being a Mountaineer. This was just a really great conversation that probably could've gone on for hours; if you're a fan of music, running, and/or life, you're going to enjoy this one.
Join his Strava Club: https://www.strava.com/clubs/CharlesWesleyG

Follow Charles on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/charleswgodwin/

Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2ErsJAz6qJ5cqjoVAvfvaC

Check out his tour dates: https://www.charleswgodwin.com/

We took the train to New York City and Meg and Karl ran a race with 50,000 friends. Needless to say, it was a pretty fun weekend and we got to share it with a whole bunch of you. Here's our recap, with plenty of side tangents along the way. And yes, we talk about Matt Choi (but recorded this episode before he gave his apology). Can't think of anything more dramatic that happened this past week...

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As headwear designer for Montreal-based Ciele Athletics, Julie St-Louis is responsible for making you look and feel great for training and race day. She's behind some of the iconic styles from Ciele, with plenty more in store. We get her behind-the-scenes look at the apparel industry and her processes and inspirations for creating utilitarian apparel designs.
Check out Ciele: https://cieleathletics.com/

We're in that floating period of fall marathons where some of us are tapering while others are taking a running sabbatical. No worries, we find a way to fill the space with Lego talk and Ryan's post-Amsterdam Marathon race report in addition to a myriad of other topics that has Meg descending into madness. But at least her Ultra Human Air ring can tell her whether she's losing her mind or staying healthy and sane.

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We love music and we love ultrarunning and this episode is a perfect intersection of those two things. From touring with Katy Perry and playing for Kelly Clarkson to starring on this season of The Voice, Kyle Whalum, Brad Sample, and Caleb Gilbreath are friends, professional musicians, and self-proclaimed running nerds who set out to train for, and complete the Pinhoti 100 ultramarathon on top of their already chaotic lives as they struggle to balance family life with the chaos of the music industry. Rhythm in the Darkness is a documentary about all of that and more, and so is today's conversation. It's a fun one for sure, so make sure you check out the documentary and the corresponding album at the links below.
Watch Rhythm in the Darkness on YouTube: https://youtu.be/5pTUp-Pz05wListen to DFL Music's "Rhythm in the Darkness" EP: https://open.spotify.com/album/4YHJe49STFwNqLway8BA3P

We wanted to make sure we covered everything you needed to know about running this week, and that means considering what archaeologists will think of our 10-foot-tall skeleton decorations when they're unearthed 5,000 years from now. We also get a recap of the Baltimore Running Festival from the overall winner, Under Armour athlete Willy Fink, who ran the fastest course time since 2012. Enjoy the tricks, hopefully they're a treat. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT Our go-to supplement for before, during, and after the Chicago Marathon, there is just nothing out there that packs the sodium and electrolytes like LMNT (and it tastes great, too). Pick up your LMNT and get a free sample pack with your order here ➡ ⁠http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop⁠ CHERIBUNDI Cherbundi’s tart cherry juice helps reduce inflammation, improve sleep, and aid in faster recovery. And now it comes in gummy form, offering the same benefits but perfect for snacking on the go. Use code THEDROP at checkout for 20% off your first purchase of gummies (limit 1 per customer). Shop here: https://cheribundi.com/collections/shop/products/pure-gummies

Live from Chicago, Thomas and Meg have a rooftop chat with Paul Zielenski, Senior Product Manager for Global Performance at New Balance. We talk about all things NB, from product development to FuelCell to the all-new 1080v14.

Look, everything in Chicago was great, especially the Chicago Marathon and the big group of running raccoons wearing Believe singlets as they chased down their goals over 26.2 miles. The epic shakeout run was also pretty rad. But we're just saying that maybe deep dish isn't for us and that tavern pizza is mid. The dogs ruled, though. Unsurprisingly, we manage to talk mostly not about the marathon, but eventually we get around to it.

Thanks to MarathonFoto and New Balance and Endorphins Running and Fleet Feet for a special weekend, let's run it back again.

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No matter what his Wikipedia entry says, everyone in the world knows that Kilian Jornet is the greatest. We were so lucky to interview this legend about all his life's adventures, including his most recent feat with the Alpine Connections, in which he traversed all 82 peaks of 4,000 meters or more in the Alps, doing it in 19 days while covering over 220,000 feet in elevation gain. We talk about that endeavor, growing up in the mountains, raising kids to be independent, and so much more. Thanks to Coros for this opportunity and to Kilian for sharing his story.

Learn more about the Alpine Connections project: https://coros.com/stories/more-than-splits/c/alpine-connections

Chicago is here and Berlin toenails are gone, dragon skulls are real, and we wax nostalgic about fishbones in beer and Mayor McCheese and also tarantula smuggling. Just another week for the gang of The Drop. We also cover the upcoming Mizuno Rebellion Pro Beta. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT Our go-to supplement for before, during, and after the Berlin Marathon, there is just nothing out there that packs the sodium and electrolytes like LMNT (and it tastes great, too). Pick up your LMNT and get a free sample pack with your order here ➡ ⁠http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop⁠ CHERIBUNDI Cherbundi’s tart cherry juice helps reduce inflammation, improve sleep, and aid in faster recovery. And now it comes in gummy form, offering the same benefits but perfect for snacking on the go. Use code THEDROP at checkout for 20% off your first purchase of gummies (limit 1 per customer). Shop here: https://cheribundi.com/collections/shop/products/pure-gummies

It's actually unreal that we're giving the head of the #widefootfam the space to speak his mind for episode 300, but sometimes the planets align for the most average people. Just kidding, we love Jarrett and know how much all the wide foot runners out there love him too. We dig into his running story, which mostly involves his love of donuts and Costco, which we all can appreciate.

Follow Jarrett on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jarrettweisberg/

They say to give gold on the 50th anniversary, but we decided to get it instead. This is our recap of the 50th Berlin Marathon, a weekend filled with everything that makes running golden: community events, shoe releases, friends gained along the way, hardships and victories. We came away with a deeper appreciation and respect and gratitude for all it is we get to do, none of which would be possible without all of you. Thank you Berlin, and thank you believers. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!

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With some great updates to the Hyperion line and the release of the Brooks Glycerin Max, we think it's safe to say that Brooks is back. Today's guest, Carson Caprara, had a big hand in that as he oversaw the efforts in footwear over the past couple years, and the fruits of that labor are starting to pay off. None of us hold anything back as we talk about the state of Brooks, navigating the pandemic, revving up on innovation, and what the future holds for the #1 brand in running. Just another great episode for all the industry-curious listeners out there.

Sport psychology coach Emily Saul takes us through a pre-marathon meditation, just in time for all our fall marathons. Listen the night before to relax and get in the right mindset.

Follow Emily on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emilysaulboston/?hl=en

The Berlin Marathon is just a couple days, and technically we're already there, but we're still back in Baltimore for this episode of the podcast. We keep it weird with our running updates and our discussion on Thomas and Robbe's shared fear of ears, while throwing in some industry talk on account of Nike's shakeup in leadership. We also give some initial thoughts on the Adidas Adios Pro 4.

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Thomas and Robbe sit down and chat with Patrick Nava, Global Vice President of Product Management Running at Adidas, about all things running at Adidas, including everything that went into the development of the all-new Adios Pro 4 and the Evo Pro 1. Another good one for all the shoe geeks out there.

This week on the podcast, shoe reviewer Alex joins us to talk about his trip to Austria and the Adidas Terrex Infinite Trails 46K race. Then we dive into our own running, along with spectating cross-country, a deep-dive on soft pretzels, how to make a special Dr. Pepper beverage, and the adventures of Robbe’s 20-miler. Finally, we discuss the Brooks Glycerin Max, which is probably our favorite shoe from Brooks, ever.

BERLIN MARATHON GROUP RUN W/ ADIDAS

We finally have some Berlin details, so listen up! Save the date for Friday, 9/27 at 8 a.m. Meet us at the adidas Berlin Sport Base for a shakeout run and so much more. T-shirt giveaway (seriously it's a good one) to the first 150 runners who show up. We will run a 5K distance (with adidas product testing of course), followed by food and music and guest appearances. It's going to be huge, you DO NOT WANT TO MISS IT.

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On this special in-studio episode of The Drop, Thomas and Meg chat with Paul Lang, ASICS global senior product manager. Go behind the scenes of what it's like to work for one of the biggest brands in running, how development and supply chains work, and what it's like figuring out consumer wants and buyer demands. Definitely a good one for all the industry nerds out there.

In this episode, we recap our weekend performances at the Charles Street 12-Miler, our de facto tune-up race for Berlin. Meg crushed it, Robbe barely made it, Karl also showed up big, and Thomas– well, he's back, folks (mostly). We also talk about some new Diadora gear and the Fila Float Maxxi 2 Pro, a Brazilian model that's kinda hot... for a shoe.

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Keira's back! Our favorite pro athlete/Oreo reviewer/costume expert extraordinaire is back to chat all things running, training, and moving to Utah. This, after her recent win at the U.S. 20K Championships. Just a legend doing legendary things.

Follow Keira on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keiradamato/

We figured this week is as good as any to give you our favorite max cushion shoes of the year, but before we do, we talk about the curse on Thomas and how to break it, Keira D'Amato's 20K championship win, UTMB, and seriously– people need to recognize the greatness of the Paralympics.

Looking to run sub-4 at the Chicago Marathon? Run with Robbe and you'll have a 50/50 chance. Fill out this form and we'll put you on the list (please only fill out if you're actually running the race): https://forms.gle/vXRtBQ3edezFEEGu5

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INDEX
00:00 Intro
04:16 The Thomas Tragedy
14:00 Curses
22:40 Meg & Robbe's running
33:33 Paralympics
37:58 Keira D'Amato
58:02 Best Max Cushion Shoes
1:14:42 Tip Culture

You run a race, you finish, and then it's a memory. If it's a goal race, you probably want to remember that memory, and that's where MarathonFoto comes in. So much goes into getting you those photos, so we dive in and ask Brad and Conor how the race day orchestration works. By the end of this convo you'll have a much deeper appreciation for everything that goes into getting you that photo finish. Looking to run sub-4 at the Chicago Marathon? Run with Robbe and you'll have a 50/50 chance. Fill out this form and we'll put you on the list (please only fill out if you're actually running the race): https://forms.gle/vXRtBQ3edezFEEGu5

It's a whole lot of supernova talk on today's episode, with both the Adidas Supernova Prima and the Oasis reunion and what goes on when you're stuck in space for eight months. We also get Thomas's take on Alien: Romulus, and Robbe goes full Encyclopedia Brown in solving The Case of the North Carolina License. Enjoy!

Looking to run sub-4 at the Chicago Marathon? Run with Robbe and you'll have a 50/50 chance. Fill out this form and we'll put you on the list (please only fill out if you're actually running the race): https://forms.gle/vXRtBQ3edezFEEGu5

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INDEX
00:00 Intro and Oasis Reunion
13:24 Wahoo Kicker
25:16 Finding stuff
33:12 Kids XC
39:30 Meg's mileage
50:35 Chicago Marathon
1:07:16 Aliens Romulus review
1:14:34 Rhino pills
1:19:15 Ghost cereal
1:22:18 Adidas Supernova Prima

Anna is a legendary ultrarunner and two-time winner of the Hardrock 100. Thomas had a great conversation with her about running and life.

Follow Anna on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/annafrosty

Things don't stop around here, as we're in the throes of fall marathon training. Meg goes full emo and bleeds herself dry for the long run (thanks to some hardcore chafing), Robbe heads for the hills of Pennsylvania to take down some carny clowns, and Thomas goes full voodoo doll with his dry needling regimen. And then there's the Puma MagMax, a shoe that belongs in Mad Max (and we're okay with that).
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We've interviewed transcontinental runners like the legendary Mike Wardian, but this is a first. Cameron Balser is an ultrarunner and Mount to Coast athlete who recently finished a nearly year-long journey running the perimeter of the United States, averaging nearly 40 miles a day over that time, entirely self-supported. We talk about the challenges he faced, the people he met along the way, and his pair of Mount to Coast R1 that he wore for his last leg, racking up 1,100 miles with plenty of life still left.
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Dreams do come true, folks. The team headed to Paris last week, so we decided to check out some of the local events, like the Olympic Games. There was dancing and cheering and food and drinks. Group runs galore, where Robbe wore his Legionnaire to the Louvre, a modern art masterpiece if there ever was one. It was truly an amazing experience and we're glad we got to see a bunch of you in the process. Not, it's time to get ready for Berlin and Chicago. We'll sleep when we're dead.
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This is a super special episode of The Drop, as Thomas and Meaghan interview the dynamic duo of Deena and Andrew Kastor. Deena won bronze in the marathon distance at the 2004 Olympic Games and held the American women's record in the distance from 2006 to 2022. Andrew is the head coach of the Mammoth Track Club and also coaches Meg and Thomas! We talk about everything from training to nutrition to marriage and have a lot of fun in the process.

We may never achieve the same level of fame as the Star Wars kid, but we're doing our best. If you like mindless entertainment, then you'll enjoy this episode as we cover Thomas's latest Instagram purchase for Meg, right before recapping some of our favorite Olympic moments. Then we dive into the Brooks Ghost Max 2.
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Professional skier Drew Petersen had everything he could want in life, but inside, he was falling apart. He finally found help and turned his life around and has committed himself to helping others do the same. This was a really great talk about mental health, the struggles that many of us deal with, and the light that comes when we realize we're not alone and asking for help is not a weakness. Along the way, Drew found ultrarunning and he will be running his hometown race– the Leadville 100– this August, while releasing his documentary Feel it All at the sound of the starting gun.
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Summer GRIT has officially come to a close, so we highlight some of the top performances from this year's participants. We also talk about our own summer running, which we're kind of over with at this point. Also, a hotel that recreates sound machine environments should probably be a thing if someone wants to do that. We also talk about the New Balance SC Trainer v3, a plated super trainer that is both similar and different to the versions before.

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This week Thomas talks with Ted Metellus, NYRR's Senior Vice President of Events and Race Director of the TCS New York City Marathon.

The Olympics start tonight and we're ready for all the action (especially since we'll be there in a week and a half). But first, we discuss all the important things– drinking hotel tap water, conjuring up Bloody Mary, and gambling in Niagara Falls. Also, our thoughts on the Nike Pegasus Plus.

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11:02 Hotel sink water

30:05 Our fall marathon

53:24 Paris plans

1:00:00 GRIT Update

1:08:21 Nike Pegasus Plus

A walking encyclopedia of run knowledge, Joe Rubio is the co-founder of Running Warehouse, our go-to place for all things running shoes and gear. We were out in California recently and stopped by their warehouse for a rare, in-studio interview. We cover a wide range of topics, from youth run culture to running shoe history to hot takes on various running shoe brands. Such a good time, hope you enjoy. Shop at Running Warehouse for all your shoe needs ➡ https://bit.ly/RUNNING-WAREHOUSE

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We're halfway through GRIT and things seem to be getting hotter, including our takes on some things running and everything else. Speaking of hot, we test out some hot sauces on this week's episode of the shoe, and also reveal the location of the world's best urinal. After all that, we'll give our thoughts on the Hoka Mach X 2.

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00:01 - Intro

05:37 - SLO Recap

24:48 - Waterfall urinal

37:14 - Dirt circus

54:07 - Hot sauce flavor test

1:04:14 - Hoka Mach X 2

On this episode of The Drop, we talk with sport psychologist Emily Saul about a wide range of subjects, from race day mental prep to overcoming obstacles we put on ourselves.

Follow Emily on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emilysaulboston/

We're back with the randomness, from shark attacks to Goodwill drops to Travis Barker and more. We also recap week one of Summer GRIT before diving into two new shoes, the New Balance More v5 and the Topo Athletic Specter 2.

The Adidas Ultraboost is a legend, and legends never die. The newest edition is coming soon, and Thomas and Robbe talk with Simon Lockett about the newest updates, what it's like to manage such an important model, and how to market a shoe to different regions of the world.

We're all back together! The gang recaps their time at Western States and the incredible Summer GRIT kickoff party.

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Live from Western States, Thomas chats with Tim Tollefson of Freetrail, ultrarunner and legend in both the road running and trail space. We talk about the race, reflecting on struggles and challenges and opportunities, and the state of running in general. Subscribe to The Drop weekly email💧 ➡ http://bit.ly/THEDROP Listen to The Drop weekly podcast, wherever you get your podcasts, or here ➡ https://bit.ly/THE-DROP-PODCAST

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Unsurprisingly, it's been a whirlwind of a week as half the team heads out to the Broken Arrow Sky Race in Olympic Valley, while Meg went for it at the Women's Classic 5K here in Baltimore. Also, the Asics Superblast 2 came in for testing, so we give our first thoughts on what may be the most anticipated shoe of 2024.

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INDEX

00:00 Intro

05:12 Broken Arrow Sky Race Recap

52:58 Meg's 5K Recap

1:04:47 Trials Talk

1:10:11 Asics Superblast 2

One of our most requested guests is finally here. Meet the man who kickstarted the hybrid athlete movement and also ran a blistering 2:39 at CIM this past December– Nick Bare. We talk about growing up in Pennsylvania, race day excuses, going all-in on your vision, his roots and journey as a hybrid athlete, parenthood, and more.

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Nothing gets you into summer shape like running in the swampy soup of Florida. Robbe tries not to die while Thomas and Meaghan recap the first Move Your Mind stop on the Asics tour in New York City. We also talk about our experiences in the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3, a carbon-plated race day shoe found on the feet of some of the top runners at the Olympic Marathon Trials. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!

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INDEX 00:00 Intro 52:00 Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3

Thomas chats with Moe Lauchert, a photographer who worked on projects with Norda, Satsify, and Lululemon. Follow Moe on Instagram: @mlauchert

There's been a lot of running going on around here, from Global Running Day to run retreats to prepping for Broken Arrow with Salomon (where you all should hang out with us). We talk everything from CBN to fireworks to sprint car racing, so there's something weird for everyone. We also cover the surprisingly great Adidas Adizero SL 2 and a super secret and special Hoka trail shoe that we'll be wearing for our Western States watching. We're at Broken Arrow with Salomon in ONE WEEK! Don't miss out on the action, here are the details, these events are FREE for everyone: Thursday, June 20 4pm-6pm | Salomon Trail Shoe Demo & Shakeout Run Salomon/KT Sundeck Vendor Village Friday, June 21 5pm-6pm | Salomon Trail Shoe Demo & Shakeout Run + FREE BUCKET HAT GIVEAWAY Salomon/KT Sundeck Vendor Village Sunday, June 23 7am-8:30am | Salomon Trail Shoe Demo & Believe in the Run Golden Trail Series Cheer Squad with @tfneuberger & @normcorerunner SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!

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Becs Gentry is a peloton instructor, 2:32 marathoner, a mom, and an all-around amazing human. We first spoke with Becs on her podcast, Set the Pace, and immediately knew we wanted to hear more. Originally from London, Becs now lives in New York City teaching tread, strength and rowing classes. In this episode, we chat all about growing up in the UK, her time with Nike, running in the Olympic Marathon Trials and how she ended up at Peloton.

We shed our shells in this episode and go really deep into nut talk (don't ask) and why there needs to be a roast of runners. We also cover some key Strava stats that show the running surge in real numbers, recap Meg's win at the Baltimore 10 Miler, and finally get around to talking about the Asics Magic Speed 4. Snag the Robbe Raccoon Signature Legionnaire: https://shop.believeintherun.com/ Check out KapiK1 Coffee: https://kapik1.us/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Cheribundi Tart Cherries are the most antioxidant rich superfruit & also the only superfruit to contain a natural melatonin. Experience the benefits of tart cherry juice and save 20% with code THEDROP ➡ https://cheribundi.com/ LMNT The best hydration supplement out there. Now with all-new sparkling cans! Our listeners can get a free LMNT sample pack with the purchase of any order. Pick it up here ➡ ⁠http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop⁠ Salomon Golden Trail Series Learn more about the Golden Trail Series powered by Salomon and register for Broken Arrow so you can hang out with us ➡ https://www.goldentrailseries.com/

Keeping cool is key in the summer months and your running hat has a lot to do with it. Robbe talks to Matt Niutta, founder of Fractel, an Australian-based headwear brand looking to make the best products for runners. One of those products is the Fractel x BITR Robbe Raccoon Signature Legionnaire (available now!). This is more of a fireside chat than a business talk, mostly because Robbe is primarily concerned with the state of Australian wildlife, so stick around for that sort of stuff.
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The gang tries to acclimate to rising temps which can only mean one thing - it's Legion season and Robbe has a custom Fractel hat coming out on Monday. We also get a little deep and discuss our 'whys' of running, but the tangents are as weird as always. Finally, we chat about the new On Cloudrunner 2, which may or may not be your best stability option.

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After a late start to running, Los Angeles math teacher Bobby Imamura became hooked on marathons, just like the rest of us. But at one point, he wasn't sure why. Until he started running with ALS (formerly known as Lou Gherig's disease) athletes, and seeing their goals become his own. Along the way, with the support of Tata Consultancy Services, they nearly broke the world record for running a marathon with a wheelchair while making an impact on all those around him. In April, Bobby finished the London Marathon for his sixth and final star of the Abbott World Marathon Majors.
Watch Bobby's documentary on YouTube: https://youtu.be/JwaFDStDb0I

We're back from NYC after a weekend of running with New Balance at the Brooklyn Half. Don't worry, there's still a bunch of random talk and even a bit of trail racing. We also announce the opening of Summer GRIT registration!

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Thomas chats with Ted Metellus (TCS New York City Marathon race director), Andrea Haus (Mill City Running), and Tyler Swartz (Endorphins Running) for a discussion about gear, run club culture, and the infamous "P" word - pace.

This episode was recorded live at Smack Mellon with New Balance during the RBC Brooklyn Half weekend.

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We went mining on Threads to get some topics for this week's podcast and they hit hard on everything from running trends to race questions to... just kidding, it all went off the rails. Desert island foods, apple hype (the fruit, not the company), AI stand-ins, and more. Oh yeah, also the Nike Pegasus 41 is here.

INDEX

00:00 Intro

00:55 Desert island foods

09:26 Threads questions

23:20 Running trends

36:35 Max cushion backlash

44:20 Finding hatchets

47:15 Nike Pegasus 41

1:05:00 More coffee talk

1:07:20 Apples

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We've been running in Denmark-based Saysky for some time now, and their apparel and approach to the sport is top notch. In this episode, we talk to their founder about how he got started, his vision for the brand, and what running culture means to him.

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We're back in the regular swing of things, which means more random talk about our everyday lives, which actually includes running. Speaking of running, we're giving away two free guaranteed entries into the 2024 Berlin Marathon, thanks to our friends at Near Earth! They make the best running socks on earth, and now they're giving you an entry to one of the best races on the planet as well. We also cover the all-new Mizuno Neo Vista, which may end up being one of our favorite shoes so far this year.

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INDEX 00:00 Intro 13:50 Games and stuff 17:29 Jawz the Revenge 32:50 Met gala 41:50 Netflix & shows 47:54 Trigger warnings 54:02 Mizuno Neo Vista

Photographer first, small business owner second, Christian Brecheis founded Near Earth socks in the middle of the pandemic. Engineered in Germany and made in Europe with premium knits using 100% renewable energy, the socks are designed for the optimal running performance. We get an inside look at what it takes to do that and hear about his business and running journey along the way. Check out Near Earth: https://nearearth.run/en-us

Follow Christian on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christianbrecheis/

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We're finally back home in the good ol' U.S. of A, but our journey to Europe was worth it. The team recounts their days in Italy at the Diadora event before giving a full recap of a few days spent at Adidas HQ in Germany for the fourth annual "Road to Records" event. It was a long and winding road, but the future of running is bright and we were glad to witness it firsthand.

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Completing a circuit of all the Domino's Pizza in Eugene during one run may be her coolest feat, but Emily Halnon also holds the overall FKT on the 460-mile Oregon section of the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) which is certainly the most impressive. Her upcoming book, "To The Gorge," explores that week-long journey and her reflections on the death of her mother after a battle with uterine cancer. Learn more about Emily and pre-order her book here: https://www.emilyhalnon.com/

We made it to Italy but our luggage didn't, so we were missing some podcast mics for this episode. Nevertheless, we worked with what we had. Live from a hotel room in Venice, the gang recaps their journey and first day in the city, as they headed over to check out the newest technology and product from Diadora as they unveiled it all at Venice’s famed Arsenale, with an emphasis on Italian craftsmanship and the cultural influence of Venice on sports and footwear. We also got a glimpse into our latest Olympic innovations and a chance to talk to leadership about the future of the brand. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Lagoon Pillows Get the best night of sleep with Lagoon Pillows. We do. You can save 15% off your first order with code BELIEVE. ➡ ⁠⁠lagoonsleep.com/believe⁠⁠ Salomon Golden Trail Series Learn more about the Golden Trail Series powered by Salomon and register for Broken Arrow so you can hang out with us ➡ https://www.goldentrailseries.com/ LMNT Our listeners can get a free LMNT sample pack with the purchase of any order. Pick it up here ➡ ⁠http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop⁠ Saysky Running Check out the all-new Flow Collection and save on your next order by using code DROP15 at checkout ➡ ⁠⁠https://saysky.com/⁠

Our favorite PT is back for round two! In this episode, we cover a bunch of the PT questions you had last time but we didn't get to answer, as well as some new ones, including Achilles injuries, plantar fasciitis, strengthening the pelvic floor, and more. Dr. Annie Neurohr is a lifelong runner and physical therapist at Sinai Running Rehabilitation Program here in Baltimore.
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We almost split this into two podcasts, but instead, you get the whole rundown in one shot (for better or for worse). We went up to Boston, we had an absolute blast with our New Balance group run and meet and greet on Friday, and Saturday our mind-blowing Asics run and cap giveaway on Sunday, and of course– the crown jewel of running, the 128th Boston Marathon, thanks to Adidas. There were moments of pure joy and others of slight regret. It all came together for an unforgettable weekend that we'd do a hundred times over if we could. Thank you to everyone showed up and said hello during the race, and who made this weekend a true success. You are the reason we do this and can keep doing this, and you're more of an inspiration than you know.

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Few brands truly embrace the idea of sustainability, but Veja practices what they preach from beginning to end. Jean Pourrat is the sports manager for the French brand and worked on the development of the all-new Condor 3. We go into all the details of Veja, their mission, and how they made a shoe that seamlessly blends performance and style.

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The people wanted more Costco content via Wide Foot Jarrett and they're getting it in this episode of The Drop. So grab a dollar dog and settle in for a wild ride as we recap the Cherry Blossom 10 Mile race, give our first thoughts on the Hoka Skyward X, get hyped for Boston, and go completely sideways with everything else.
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One of our first podcast guests ever is back on The Drop after almost four years away. Lindsay is an Asics pro athlete and elite women's marathoner who recently finished 8th at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. We get an inside look at her training, running high mileage, and what it's like living in Australia. Side note: she's also very good at trivia.

It's taper time for Boston and the gang is barely holding on. Illness, dislocated shoulders, and panic attacks- we can barely fit it all in. Special guest Jarrett joins us this week to talk about his apple cider basicness and getting shamed by Patient First doctors, Thomas needs to the hype of Chipotle to come back, and Meg tries her best to keep Dune out of the conversation. We also have special guest check-ins thanks to our friend Lin who stopped by HQ. Last but not least, we talk about the On Cloudmonster Hyper.

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INDEX

00:00 Intro

11:30 Robbe's running

19:27 Panic attacks

27:23 Thomas training

43:48 Meg's training

45:50 Cider and stuff

50:33 The Future

53:11 Jarrett gets shamed

1:03:15 Boston Events

1:09:11 Counting marathons

1:15:08 On Cloudmonster Hyper

1:15:20 But first, Chipotle

1:22:18 On Cloudmonster Hyper Cont.

On this episode, we sit down with 2:39 marathoner, running coach and host of the wildly popular Strength Running Podcast, Jason Fitzgerald. We chat about his entrance into running, becoming a coach and some of the best strength training tips for runners.
Follow Jason on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonfitz1/

We go Maryland muddin' as Robbe recaps the HAT 50K this past weekend (no ankles were harmed!). Then, we talk about Thomas and Meg's training while diving into the Diadora Frequenza, Dune spoilers, and the Barkley Marathons.

INDEX
00:00 Intro
07:42 Robbe's 50K recap
48:10 Thomas training
50:48 Diadora Frequenza
54:38 Thomas pt. 2
59:33 Barkley Marathons
1:04:15 Boston Events & Polls
1:06:10 Smashing cars
1:09:32 Horror movies
1:11:54 Dune analysis

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This episode is sponsored by LMNT. We use it to rehydrate after all our hard efforts and it is hands down the best hydration and recovery mix out there. With hot weather around the corner, nothing beats the salty-yet-refreshing taste of Raspberry Salt, Watermelon Salt, or Citrus Lime.
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ROBBE'S 50K Gear List
Gorewear Concurve Jacket: https://bit.ly/3xcNjeH
Janji Rainrunner Jacket: https://bit.ly/3PHwyhQ
Patagonia Slope Trail Runner Vest: https://bit.ly/3wJ0Kmo
Topo Athletic MTN Racer 3: https://bit.ly/3TYCsOs
Nike Ultrafly: https://bit.ly/3IUPZjy
Satisfy Cloud Merino LS: https://bit.ly/49eYO2j
Swiftwick Elite XT Merino Sock: https://alnk.to/cHMotSA
Paka Performance 3/4 Crew Sock: https://alnk.to/8iTrXwv
Ultimate Direction Flip Glove: https://alnk.to/g3aN8dT
Coros Apex 2 Pro: https://alnk.to/apSxK8J

It's looking like an infirmary at the BITR offices, with popped shoulders and illness and stress fractures. We'll be okay. Tune in to hear about Meg's journey to the West Coast to celebrate the 40th anniversary of Joan Benoit-Samuelson's 1984 Olympic gold with Nike. Then stick around for a recount of Thomas and Robbe's long run adventures from this past weekend. We also cover two brand-new shoes: the TYR Valkyrie Elite Carbon and Mount to Coast R1. Susan's Cookies: https://www.instagram.com/sjmeier2/ Our Favorite Water Bottles Hydrapak Skyflask 500ml: https://bit.ly/3P56n4k Nathan Speeddraw: https://bit.ly/493T7nG

INDEX

00:00 Intro

07:29 Meg's West Coast Trip

22:12 Shirt nostalgia

29:07 Long Run Adventures

57:24 Favorite water bottles

1:05:35 Poll results

1:12:40 Meg's Instagram Stuff

1:17:05 TYR Valkyrie Elite Carbon

1:20:32 Mount to Coast R1

From living on a submarine in the Navy to running ultras across the Atacama in Chile, Rob Perez has been to all ends of the extremes. We talk about his journey as a runner, run culture in D.C. and beyond, and what it's like as a content creator in 2024.
Follow Rob on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/r.oh.bee/

Thomas and Meaghan test the legs out at the Annapolis Half Marathon, Robbe finds a money trap in Florida, and we need all of you to write you local congressperson and get the laws on raccoon ownership changed. We also discuss the newly unveiled 2024 Boston Marathon medal.

Learn more about the Golden Trail Series powered by Salomon: https://www.goldentrailseries.com/ This is episode is sponsored by LMNT. We use it to rehydrate after all our hard efforts and it is hands down the best hydration and recovery mix out there. With hot weather around the corner, nothing beats the salty-yet-refreshing taste of Raspberry Salt, Watermelon Salt, or Citrus Lime. Our listeners can get a free LMNT sample pack with the purchase of any order. Pick it up here ➡ http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX 00:01 Intro 01:00 St. Paddy's Day 12:00 Yuki world record 24:45 Raccoon ownership 31:50 Florida adventures 45:09 Annapols Half Recap 1:03:51 Boston Marathon medal 1:12:00 Shoe choices 1:21:06 Hangover cure

Another legend from Chicago, Eric Floberg is a videographer, photographer, YouTuber, and Instagram creator producing some of the highest quality run content out there. He's also on a journey to drop his marathon time from 4:00 to 2:35. We had a great conversation about all things running and life.
Follow Eric on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@flobergruns
Follow Eric on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/floberg.runs/

In this episode of The Drop, we talk about how it all began for all three of us, but before that we get a crystal clear perspective on some running gold. We also talk about Meg's past life as a baller flying on private planes, before talking about the Hylo Athletics Impact, a shoe designed with utmost sustainability in mind. Learn more about the Golden Trail Series powered by Salomon: https://www.goldentrailseries.com/ This is episode is sponsored by LMNT. We use it to rehydrate after all our hard efforts and it is hands down the best hydration and recovery mix out there. With hot weather around the corner, nothing beats the salty-yet-refreshing taste of Raspberry Salt, Watermelon Salt, or Citrus Lime. Our listeners can get a free LMNT sample pack with the purchase of any order. Pick it up here ➡ http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop INDEX 00:01 Intro 08:05 Ember Gift 12:30 Private jets 16:12 Happy birthday 18:48 Thomas origin story 23:00 Robbe origin story 28:18 Meg's origin story 53:29 Feathers shout-out 1:03:48 Nature probz 1:09:45 Hylo Athletics Impact

If you listen to the podcast, you already know. We were going hard in the paint for the Kevin Salvano during the Olympic Marathon Trials and while it may not have been his day, he went full send and that's all that matters. Find out how he got to the Trials in the first place and what it's like to "quit running" and then run a 2:16 for your first marathon.

Meg and Thomas return from Charleston and Thomas comes back with an accent that linguistically lands somewhere between Colonel Sanders and eastern European. We also get into some edge-of-the-seat commentary on produce storage, Godzilla, and running updates as we train for Boston. We also give our thoughts on the Asics Metaspeed Sky Paris and Edge Paris, which are the best race day shoes Asics has ever put out. Here's the chicken/fox/corn riddle: https://www.mathsisfun.com/chicken_crossing_solution.html Learn more about the Golden Trail Series powered by Salomon: https://www.goldentrailseries.com/ This is episode is sponsored by LMNT. We use it to rehydrate after all our hard efforts and it is hands down the best hydration and recovery mix out there. With hot weather around the corner, nothing beats the salty-yet-refreshing taste of Raspberry Salt, Watermelon Salt, or Citrus Lime. Our listeners can get a free LMNT sample pack with the purchase of any order. Pick it up here ➡ http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop INDEX 00:01 Intro 2:13 South Carolina 06:34 Godzilla 14:07 Thomas running 20:00 Beyonce 24:04 Rose city 39:00 Robbe running 53:06 Asics Metaspeed Sky/Edge Paris 1:07:10 Jawzrsize update

Repping that northern attitude out in the wilds of New Hampshire, Ben True is a decorated runner across various distances who took 7th place in the 2021 New York City Marathon in his first race at that distance. He currently runs Northwood Athletics, a grassroots effor to grow the next national running hub for all distances, all surfaces, and all abilities. We had a great conversation about his career, training solo, and why the East Coast has our hearts on lock.
Learn more about Northwoods: https://www.northwoodsathletics.com/
Follow Ben on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/benjtrue/

We go where other podcasts don't dare to go. Mainly because other podcasters aren't finding copius amounts of watter bottles filled with urine on their runs and talking about it. We also talk about our running, our fears, our favorite shows right now, and the Hoka Mach 6 - a lightweight, fun, and more durable trainer that Hoka fans will/should/probably love. Learn more about the Golden Trail Series powered by Salomon: https://www.goldentrailseries.com/ This is episode is sponsored by LMNT. We use it to rehydrate after all our hard efforts and it is hands down the best hydration and recovery mix out there. We're super excited about the new LMNT Chocolate Medley, featuring Chocolate Mint, Chocolate Chai, and Chocolate Raspberry, designed to be enjoyed hot or swirled into your favorite recipes.

Gary is a Welsh trail/mountain runner who has been a leading coach for athletes for over 10 years now. Gary loves to train hard, but also loves to have fun in the process, all while creating content for social media to share with others.

Follow Gary on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/garyhouse_/

We hit the trails for some fun this past weekend, then felt like Travis Kelce knocked the hat off our heads as we were heading to 4th period Math. Cause he would do that. We also discuss our favorite cheaters in running this week (including Robbe), and eventually talk about the On Cloudmonster 2. Learn more about the Golden Trail Series powered by Salomon: https://www.goldentrailseries.com/ This is episode is sponsored by LMNT. We use it to rehydrate after all our hard efforts and it is hands down the best hydration and recovery mix out there. We're super excited about the new LMNT Chocolate Medley, featuring Chocolate Mint, Chocolate Chai, and Chocolate Raspberry, designed to be enjoyed hot or swirled into your favorite recipes. Our listeners can get a free LMNT sample pack with the purchase of any order. Pick it up here ➡ http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop INDEX 2:30 Coffee talk 8:22 Trail running 21:05 Super Bowl recap 35:33 Taylor Swift update 43:05 USB ports 50:01 Winter GRIT Recap 55:05 Cheaters 1:13:30 On Cloudmonster 2

If you want to hear about animal attacks, skydiving, and basejumping, boy, do we have a podcast for you. Steff Gardner is the marketing manager for Salomon North America, but she's also a seasoned trail runner, skydiver, basejumper, and a whole bunch of other things. This, despite growing up in the great indoors. We have a really fun conversation about all those things, and also about Salomon trail running and the "all are welcome" Golden Trail Series (which we'll be at in June!).
Learn more about the Golden Trail Series: https://www.goldentrailseries.com/
Follow Steff on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crashboombang/

Well, it was magic down in Orlando. Over the course of three days, we packed it in. From shake out runs to podcasts to random encounters with many of you on the streets, we had an absolute blast. Of course, it was all capped off with a race to remember on Saturday morning, where we finally got to see who will be representing the United States in Paris this summer. Thanks to Hoka and Citius Mag for partnering with us throughout the week, Justin Hall (@justin_yall) and Chase Fleming (@chaseflemingphoto) for capturing photos, and thanks to all of you for coming out and supporting us and the running community. Now let's to go France. 

Watch the YouTube video recap: https://youtu.be/CGyoCHEfRko
Read the Hoka Cielo X1 review: https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/hoka-cielo-x1-review/

This is episode is sponsored by LMNT. We use it to rehydrate after all our hard efforts and it is hands down the best hydration and recovery mix out there. We're super excited about the new LMNT Chocolate Medley, featuring Chocolate Mint, Chocolate Chai, and Chocolate Raspberry, designed to be enjoyed hot or swirled into your favorite recipes.
Our listeners can get a free LMNT sample pack with the purchase of any order. Pick it up here ➡ http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

We're working on a Hoka ska band and are stuck between SKAZ Elite, The Mighty Mighty Cliftones, Reel Big Bondis, or Hoka Mach Sax. You'll get it after you watch the interview. Live from the Hoka Fly Lab at the Olympic Marathon Trials in Orlando, Robbe and Meaghan chat with the Hoka team about how they got here and where things are going, specifically with the Hoka Cielo X1. First up, we talk with Bekah Broe, Director of Product, Performance Footwear, before jumping into all things Cielo X1 with the designer of the shoe, Val Weilert, Senior Design Manager for Hoka.

Read our review of the Hoka Cielo X1: https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/hoka-cielo-x1-review/

It's Olympic Trials week for the marathon and we're heading to Orlando (we're actually already there). But don't worry, we still found time to get weird for y'all. The big news this week is the release of the Hoka Cielo X1, a carbon-plated super shoe with a full Peba midsole and aggressive rocker geometry. It may be the most fun shoe we've ever worn. Before that, we talk about our favorite dark horse to win the Trials, our weekend at the Winter GRIT party, skinless dogs, and staring at ourselves in the mirrors to try and discover what we're made of. If that sounds bizarre to you, you're not wrong. This is episode is sponsored by LMNT. We use it to rehydrate after all our hard efforts and it is hands down the best hydration and recovery mix out there. We're super excited about the new LMNT Chocolate Medley, featuring Chocolate Mint, Chocolate Chai, and Chocolate Raspberry, designed to be enjoyed hot or swirled into your favorite recipes. Our listeners can get a free LMNT sample pack with the purchase of any order. Pick it up here ➡ http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

We love our content creator friends from across the pond, and Aubrey Mvula (@aubreyrunning on YouTube) is no exception. We talk about how he got started in running and into shoe reviews, how he just ran a new 10K PR, some of his favorite shoes to run in right now, and the balance of maintaining relationships with brands while still giving honest reviews. 
Check out Aubrey's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AubreyRunning

Meg may or may not have set up a campsite in Harbor East in the hopes of catching a Taylor Swift sighting as she comes into town to see her Travvy lose to Lamar and the rest of the Ravens. We also cover our own running (the road to Boston begins now, or something), Thomas listening to the sounds of the Rainforest Cafe through a sleep mask, and whether or not we could survive an Andes plane crash (we couldn't). We also talk about the Diadora Gara Carbon, a surprisingly great carbon-plated race day shoe coming at the end of February.

This is episode is sponsored by LMNT. We use it to rehydrate after all our hard efforts and it is hands down the best hydration and recovery mix out there. We're super excited about the new LMNT Chocolate Medley, featuring Chocolate Mint, Chocolate Chai, and Chocolate Raspberry, designed to be enjoyed hot or swirled into your favorite recipes.

Our listeners can get a free LMNT sample pack with the purchase of any order. Pick it up here ➡ http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

We are getting PUMPED for Marathon Trials Weekend and if you’re going to be in Orlando, we want to hang! Here’s where you can find us:

THURSDAY, FEB 1: Join us at 6:30 PM at the Orlando Track Shack and be the first group of runners in the world to demo HOKA's latest racing product. Fun miles and good times guaranteed. We'll also be giving a way a bunch of Goodr sunglasses.

Register here: https://events.hoka.com/shakeattheshackwithhokaxtracks

FRIDAY, FEB 2: We’re joining Citius Mag crew for a jog at 5 PM from the CITIUS Cafe (presented by HOKA) followed by a final marathon prediction show and some hangs. Get there at 4:30 if you want to demo the new prototype shoe. Get a beer on the house and some Jeni's ice cream for dessert.

Register here: https://events.hoka.com/hokaxcitiuscafeshakeoutrun

SATURDAY, FEB 3: We’ll be cheering our faces off at the HOKA FLY ZONE as we get to watch America's most exciting marathon of the year. (Location TBD, somewhere near the start/finish).
All events are FREE!

INDEX

00:00 LMNT

01:30 Intro

06:40 Olympic Trials

13:52 Taylor in Baltimore

16:07 Winter GRIT

33:15 Poll Questions

38:40 Boston Marathon

50:15 Thomas Instagram Buy

57:11 What's in the box?

1:03:21 Society of the Snow

1:10:12 Diadora Gara Carbon

1:18:27 Nick Bare

Well, this is probably part one of many to come because we only scratched the surface of all your listener questions (thanks for sending them in). Dr. Annie Neurohr is a lifelong runner and physical therapist at Sinai Running Rehabilitation Program here in Baltimore. She's singlehandedly responsible for saving Robbe's running career after a years-long bout of hamstring tendinopathy and has helped scores of other injured runners get back on track again. We talk about a wide range of topics in this episode, from pre- and post-workout routines to IT Band Syndrome to shin splints and so much more. 
Follow Dr. Neurohr on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pace_doctor/

In what may be the first official "Thomas Instagram Buys" segment, we cover some key jaw workouts while Meg tries not to laugh for five minutes straight. We also talk about doing a six-star finishing medal for visiting all remaining locations of the Rainforest Cafe, and believe it or not, recap the results of the Houston Marathon. Eventually, we talk about the Adidas Takumi Sen 10. Get all the details and RSVP for the Winter GRIT party: https://mailchi.mp/believeintherun/wintergritparty2024 Pick up the Carhartt Waterproof Mittens that Robbe was talking about: https://amzn.to/3vAMsU2 This is episode is sponsored by LMNT. We use it to rehydrate after all our hard efforts and it is hands down the best hydration and recovery mix out there. We're super excited about the new LMNT Chocolate Medley, featuring Chocolate Mint, Chocolate Chai, and Chocolate Raspberry, designed to be enjoyed hot or swirled into your favorite recipes. Our listeners can get a free LMNT sample pack with the purchase of any order. Pick it up here ➡ http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX

00:00 Intro

01:30 Iguanas & Rainforest Cafe

10:44 Houston Recap

26:08 Snowflakes

38:47 Winter gear

47:57 TrainingPeaks

51:20 Meg's Spring Race

57:38 Jawzrsize

1:12:24 Adidas Takumi Sen 10

After suffering a traumatic brain injury at the age of 10, Nathan Riech suffered coordination impairments on the right side of his body. Limiting his performance against able-bodied athletes, the injury fell under the guidelines for the T38 division of the Paralympics, in which Riech has become a 2x world champion. 

This episode is packed down and out with a wide array of information ranging from invaluable to "udderly" useless. Robbe recaps his 50K in the Brooks Caldera 7, Meg is CIM famous, and Thomas is singlehandedly keeping Instagram ads alive. We also find out what a MAMIL is, before diving into the New Balance Rebel v4.

RSVP for the Winter GRIT Party here

This is episode is sponsored by LMNT. We use it to rehydrate after all our hard efforts and it is hands down the best hydration and recovery mix out there. We're super excited about the new LMNT Chocolate Medley, featuring Chocolate Mint, Chocolate Chai, and Chocolate Raspberry, designed to be enjoyed hot or swirled into your favorite recipes.

Our listeners can get a free LMNT sample pack with the purchase of any order. Pick it up here ➡ http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

If you don't know Alex, you should. As a big guy runner, he's normalizing running for everyone and doing it in an authentic way through his TikTok videos and Instagram reels. We brought him into the studio to talk about... honestly– everything under the sun. This is the longest guest episode we've ever recorded and it probably could've kept going if we all didn't need a bathroom break. 
Follow Alex on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/herm.runs/
Follow Alex on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hermruns

What a year it's been, and what a year it will be. On this episode of The Drop, we recap 2023 before talking about more important stuff like ventriloquism, sex robots, botulism, and runner road rage. Also, we talk about the Asice Gel-Nimbus 26, another solid daily trainer for 2024. This is episode is sponsored by LMNT. We use it to rehydrate after all our hard efforts and it is hands down the best hydration and recovery mix out there. We're super excited about the new LMNT Chocolate Medley, featuring Chocolate Mint, Chocolate Chai, and Chocolate Raspberry, designed to be enjoyed hot or swirled into your favorite recipes. Our listeners can get a free LMNT sample pack with the purchase of any order. Pick it up here ➡ http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

A veteran voice in running journalism, Brian Metzler is an expert on all things running, especially shoes and gear. As a longtime writer for the top publications in the industry and current executive editor of Outside Run, he's seen trends come and go and has personally run through them all. In this episode, we talk about all of that and more, while trying to predict what the future holds for run footwear.
Follow Brian on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/brian___metzler/

We're in the Bermuda Triangle of our run seasons. Meg's disoriented with no race goals on the horizon. Gravity may be on strike. Bodies and iPhones are breaking down left and right. Somewhere in there, Christmas happened. And we also ran in the Reebok Floatzig and were surprised at how much we enjoyed it. 

Sure, talking about running to anyone who will listen is great, but it's even better to show it off with your apparel. Sarah Clancy is the founder of Sarah Marie Running Co. and Sarah Marie Design Studio, specializing in running goods and apparel with specialty designs and slogans. Borne two years ago, her small business has taken off, but hasn't been without its rollercoaster ride of struggles and victories. This is a great episode for all those entrepreneurs out there, hope you enjoy it.

Follow Sarah Marie Running Co. on Instagram
Check out Sara Marie's website: https://sarahmarie.run/

It's the most wonderful time of the year to talk about gift giving, Thomas childhood trauma and Robbe almost getting catfished with fish. There's also some skullduggery in the office fantasy football competition. Plus, we reminisce about our first running shoes, early aughts television, and run down a few different shoes, including the Puma Fast-R Nitro Elite 2, Reebok Floatzig, and Asics GEL-NYC. Merry Christmas to all!

Lagoon Pillows is how we get our good sleep and we're happy to have them sponsor the podcast. Right now you can save 15% off your first order with code BELIEVE. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe

Starting a company managing influencers and runners while trying to be one yourself is quite the juggling act. On this episode, we talk about how Erin juggles both of those things, how deals and contracts work, and how she started running, including her involvement with Green Point Runners, supported by Brooklyn-based Bandit Running.

Follow Erin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/erin.k.bailey
Check out Momentum Management: https://momentummanagement.co/

Thank you for letting us be ourselves. Few people have repped Baltimore better than Daniel Fang, drummer for hardcore band Turnstile (and many others). Even with their massive rise over the past year, including a summer tour with Blink-182 and three Grammy nominations (losing to Brandi Carlile for best rock song is an absolute travesty), he remains the chillest and nicest guy you could hope to meet. It was an honor to have him into the studio to talk about art, inspiration, living a straight edge lifestyle while on tour, and his newfound love of running. Show a bit of TLC.

Listen to Turnstile on Spotify
Follow Turnstile on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/turnstileluvconnection/
Follow Daniel on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielfang/

Fresh off an absolutely bonkers week at The Running Event 2023, Thomas and Robbe recap what's hot and what's not for 2024 in the running shoe world. Meaghan is in California where she ran a certain race in Sacramento in a certain shoe that starts with Alpha ends with Fly 3, which we will talk about all of that on the next episode of The Drop. There's a lot to cover in this episode, and Robbe's concerned that Thomas has never dipped french fries in a Wendy's Frosty.

Lagoon Pillows is how we get our good sleep. Right now you can save 15% off your first order with code BELIEVE. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe 

Frank Sanchez is Chief Physician Associate-Cardiothoracic Surgery at University of Miami Transplant for Heart and Lung adult and pediatrics. With 25 years of experience, he has had the pleasure of taking care of the Miami football team at one point and currently is the Medical Director for LifeTime Fitness running and endurance events including Miami Marathon and Half. He is also a 7x Ironman finisher and 16x marathon finisher as well as a USA Triathlon coach and XC coach. We answer listener questions that hopefully help with your training and race day performance.

Karissa Schweizer is an American middle- and long-distance runner, Olympian and World Record holder in the women's 4x1500 meters relay. She competed in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics in the 5000 meters and 10,000 meters events finishing 11th and 12th, respectively. In 2020, she set the indoor 3000 meters American Record with a time of 8:25.70.

The team gears up for some Turkey Trots and The Running Event, discusses the new Andre 3000 album, and gives you their thoughts about running in the cold. We also discuss some of the mishaps at the Philadelphia Half Marathon. No new shoe this week, but we'll be back with tons of shoe craziness from the Running Event next week.

Lagoon Pillows is how we get our good sleep. Right now you can save $50 on a Performance Pack or $75 on the Peak Sleep Set. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe

If you know us, you know him. Tommie Runz is a runner and founder of the PR Project and The Run Eat Sleep Show. His running journey began in 2018 after choosing a life of sobriety in 2017, in addition to practicing veganism. He's also a frequent co-host of the Relay podcast, where he discusses running and life with other members of the collective.

Follow Tommie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tommie_runz
Learn more about him: https://www.tommierunz.com/

Some of us went on a bougie vacation to the islands last week, others ran 90 miles (you can probably guess which ones). Thomas makes us jealous with his tales of the Caribbean life, Robbe gets out his pent-up frustrations on the ubiquity of Taylor Swift in all aspects of life, and Meg just wants to listen to country music in peace. We also talk about the On Cloudeclipse, a shoe in which Meg has already logged 100 miles.

Lagoon Pillows is how we get our good sleep. Right now you can save $50 on a Performance Pack or $75 on the Peak Sleep Set. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe

Learn more about Winter GRIT: Space Odyssey ➡ https://www.believeintherun.com/grit

Pick up the Nathan Speeddraw, the only good handheld water bottle ➡ https://bit.ly/SHOP-NATHAN-SPEEDDRAW

No introduction needed, Kofuzi is a now-legend in the shoe reviewer space and our favorite YouTuber out there. Outside of shoe reviews, he's also one of our favorite people to hang out with because he's 100% always down for a good time. Which is what we do on this episode of The Drop. Check out Kofuzi's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@kofuzi

Is the New York City Marathon weekend a national holiday? At this point, it should be. Our last stop on the train to NYC took us right into the heart of marathon weekend, where we met and hung out with so many of you. From the expo to the shake out run with New Balance to the marathon itself, we're not sure anything can top what just went down. Hear all about our full in-depth recap of the weekend and the race itself, and forgive us if we get a little lost along the way.

Special thanks to New Balance and New York Road Runners, and of course, to all of you. We really have a special community of runners and couldn't do it it without your support.

Lagoon Pillows is how we get our good sleep. Right now you can save $50 on a Performance Pack or $75 on the Peak Sleep Set. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe

From South Africa to Arkansas to Colorado, Dom Scott has literally chased her running dream the whole way around the world. From going to boarding school as a teen to training with Emma Bates on Team Boss to finishing with a 2:27 at last month's Chicago Marathon, she's had quite the journey. We talk about all of that and more in this conversation.

Follow Dom on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/domscottrunsa/

Carmen Sandiego taught us nothing about geography and it shows (sorry, Europe). But it's the calm before the storm as we embrace the empire state of mind in our lead-up to this weekend's New York City Marathon. We also go deeper personally than we ever have, thanks to Robbe's mid-podcast confessional. Of course, we also talk about the Asics Novablast 4, one of the most-anticipated running shoes of 2023.

From hunting in the backcountry to running ultras, Cam Hanes knows the importance of endurance when it comes to challenging endeavors. He's the author of several books, frequent guest on the Joe Rogan Experience, host of the Keep Hammering Collective podcast, and now– a Speedland athlete In this espisode, we talk about the mindset it takes to dig deep (and our mutual admiration for Sally McRae and Courtney Dauwalter), whether greatness is innate or learned, and his all-new Speedland trail shoe model– the GS:PGH.

Check out the all-new GS:PGH from Speedland: https://www.runspeedland.com/

Follow Cam Hanes on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes/

Check out Cam's website & Keep Hammering Collective podcast: https://cameronhanes.com/

In Baltimore, snitches get stitches and/or dead robots on their doorsteps. Robbe comes home to find a frightful surprise, Meg & Thomas review BS High, and we also go where the sidewalk ends. Plus, we talk about our favorite super trainers of 2023. SAVE THE DATE: Our New Balance x BITR NYC Marathon shake out run is on Saturday, November 4, starting and ending at LAVAN Midtown (641 W 42nd St). Starts at 10 a.m., givewaways include custom hats and sling bags to the first few hundred people. Don't forget to check out this week's sponsors! Kodiak Peak Oatmeal is legit awesome, we've been using it to refuel after our morning runs. Made with 100% whole grain oats and 20g of protein per packet. Save 20% of your Peak Oatmeal bundle by shopping here: https://kodiakcakes.com/BIR Lagoon Pillows is how we get our good sleep. Right now you can save $50 on a Performance Pack or $75 on the Peak Sleep Set. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe

As runners, we obviously love data. But what about as parents? Emily Oster is a parent, professor, New York Times bestselling author, runner, and data-driven economist focused on helping other parents navigate life. And she's a fan of The Drop! We had a lot of fun talking to her about her approach to data-driven parenting, running, and life. Follow Emily on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/profemilyoster/ Listen to ParentData with Emily Oster: https://pod.link/1633515294 Check out Emily's books: https://emilyoster.net/writing/

If you ever marry someone who always wears a green ribbon on their neck– DON'T ASK THEM TO REMOVE IT. Aside from that advice, we recap the Baltimore Running Festival and Thomas's experience running in the Adios Evo 1 on a rainy day and Robbe's experience in the Nike Vaporfly 3. We're also in love with e-bikes now and we don't know how to make it stop (the love, not the bike).

By the way, SAVE THE DATE: We'll be doing a New Balance x BITR NYC Marathon shakeout run on Saturday, November 4, starting and ending at LAVAN Midtown (641 W 42nd St). Starts at 10 a.m., givewaways include custom hats and sling bags to the first few hundred people.

RSVP HERE: https://mailchi.mp/believeintherun/nyc-shakeout

Easy 3-mile route with special guests Kofuzi, Matt Choi, Charlie Watson (aka @therunnerbeans), Tommie Runz & the PR Project, Carleth Keys, Alex Hermanson (@herm.runs) and more!

Get Meg's Kodiak Oatmeal Cookies Recipe: https://believeintherun.com/kodiak-peak-oatmeal-cookie-recipe-simple-snack-for-runners/

Don't forget to check out this week's sponsors!

Kodiak Peak Oatmeal is legit awesome, we've been using it to refuel after our morning runs. Made with 100% whole grain oats and 20g of protein per packet. Save 20% of your Peak Oatmeal bundle by shopping here: https://kodiakcakes.com/BIR

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Emma Bates ran the Chicago Marathon, and Meg ran the Chicago Marathon, so that seemed like a pretty good reason to have martinis in our hotel room together while recapping the race. Obviously, it was a pretty good time. There's a lot of talk about goats, like, the actual animal. And alpacas. It's basically an advertisement for FarmersOnly.

This is it, the recap you've all been waiting for (or not). We went to Chicago, we ate some pizza, ate some ramen, drank some dranks, got up early, stayed up late, hung with friends (like you and Emma Bates), and somewhere in between, Meg ran a marathon. And she got a PR. We also held the world record-breaking Nike Alphafly 3 and give you our thoughts about that. Buckle up, it's a wild ride! Don't forget to eat your oatmeal! Kodiak Peak Oatmeal is legit awesome, we've been using it to refuel after our morning runs. Made with 100% whole grain oats and 20g of protein per packet. Save 20% of your Peak Oatmeal bundle by shopping here: https://kodiakcakes.com/BIR You can drop the CBD gummies, because Lagoon Pillows is how to get your best sleep. Right now you can save $50 on a Performance Pack or $75 on the Peak Sleep Set. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe

Is Erika Kemp the future face of distance running in America? After posting the fastest American debut ever in the marathon at Boston earlier this year (and becoming the fastest American-born Black marathoner ever in the process), she may be on her way. We talk to the Brooks athlete on her success and the future of her running career.

It's spooky season around here, which means we're getting creepy with weird ghost talk. But we also manage to talk about Meg's lead-up to the Chicago Marathon and her inexperience with the value menu at Burger King. Then there's the whole discussion about inflation affecting tips for strippers, because that's the perfect lead-in to the $160 Nike Vomero 17, which is about the going price for a premium daily trainer these days.
Kodiak Peak Oatmeal is legit awesome, we've been using it to refuel after our morning runs. Made with 100% whole grain oats and 20g of protein per packet. Save 20% of your Peak Oatmeal bundle by shopping here: https://kodiakcakes.com/BIR
Lagoon Pillows is how we get our good sleep. Right now you can save $50 on a Performance Pack or $75 on the Peak Sleep Set. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe

At a time when every shoe was over 10 mm in drop, Brian Beckstead and Golden Harper came along and took an idea from zero to, well... zero drop. Since then, Altra has become a staple brand in the running, walking, and hiking scenes, known for its footshape shoes and focus on a natural running lifestyle. However, everything has changed with the all-new 4 mm drop AltraFWD Experience. Does it matter? We ask Brian about that, the history and future of the brand, and what it's like to fly fish in South America. Check out Altra: https://www.altrarunning.com/ Read the review of the AltraFWD Experience ➡ https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/altrafwd-experience-review/

First things first, let's talk about Kipchoge's dual snot rivers that rivaled the outflow of the Tigris and Euphrates. Then we'll talk about his win in Berlin and Assefa's dismantling of the women's world record. From there, we get into how horrible our faces look after a run, whether or not we're just perpetually injured but used to it, and wonder if Baltimore rats are getting into Meg's collagen stash. Lastly, we touch on the AltraFWD Experience, a 4 mm drop shoe that's... a shoe. If this episode doesn't help you nail your peak long run for this fall marathon cycle, then you may as well just quit running.

We love having friends on the podcast, especially if they're fellow shoe nerds like us. Emily is one of the few/only women shoe reviewers on YouTube, and also has the most creative channel name (@runlikeheller). Oh, and she's also on the #traintonyc team, so we're lucky we get to hang out with her a few times on our journey to running the New York City Marathon with New Balance.

We talk about how she got into running and reviewing, what life is like on Long Island, and which shoes she's loving right now.

Check out Run Like Heller on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RunLikeHeller
Follow Emily on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runlikeheller

Sorry to those who aren't baseball fans, but the Orioles made the playoffs, so we take some time to acknowledge the only real birds that exist in the world. Then we get into the usual randomness and try and figure out if Thomas got placebo drunk at a Guns 'n' Roses concert in 1992. Also, Meg has a minor setback three weeks out from Chicago. In shoe talk, we discuss the $500 Adidas Adizero Adios Pro Evo 1 and, on the opposite side of the spectrum, the $120 carbon-plated Atreyu Race Model.
Get our thoughts on the Adidas Evo 1: https://believeintherun.com/adidas-adizero-adios-pro-evo-1/
Read our review of the Atreyu Race Model: https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/atreyu-race-model-review/

He won the 5th Avenue Mile two weeks after he took down Jakob Ingebrigtsen on the sport's biggest stage, outkicking him en route to a world title in the 1500m. And now he's a guest on the greatest podcast in history of the universe. So yeah, you could say it's been a whirlwind of a month for Brooks elite Josh Kerr. We had a lot of fun talking to him about running, winning, and eating to much fast food in America. Follow Josh on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshhkerr

The gang took the actual train to NYC to run the New Balance and New York Road Runners 5th Avenue Mile. We talk about the worst seat on a train, Thomas's race day regrets, and Robbe making questionable decisions about stuff found on the ground (again). We also cover the legendary life of Mike the Headless Chicken, which is marginally more entertaining than our conversation about the New Balance 1080v13, which features some major upgrades.

From shooting Satisfy and Norda to growing up in SoCal, Thomas talks with Adam Talan (aka The Dirty Boy) about all things art and creativity. Follow The Dirty Boy on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedirtyboy/

It's not an illusion: Salomon has a legit race day shoe in the S/Lab Phantasm 2. But before we talk about that, we must discuss Meg's 100-mile training week, the merits of banana splits, and the reality of reviewing shoes and how brands perceive us. The Salomon S/Lab Phantasm 2 releases on October 1 for $275.
Get all the details and RSVP for 5th Avenue Mile shakeout run in New York City on Saturday, September 9: https://mailchi.mp/believeintherun.com/5thaveshakeout
This episode is sponsored by Electrolit, a scientifically formulated hydration beverage that replenishes the body during physical activity, intense heat, and other outdoor warm-weather activities. It's legit, we drink it, you should check them out.
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What's going on behind the scenes of the Adidas Adizero podium push over the last few years? That's what we ask Robbie Paterson, Senior Manager of Footwear Development in the Adizero Elite Racing line. We get all the details on how they almost had a 50 mm race shoe until World Athletics laid down the law, how much testing and development goes into an Adizero shoe, and everything that went into the Adidas Adizero Prime X 2 Strung.

We get to talking about the Adidas Prime X Strung 2 (eventually), but first, there's bigger fish to fry, like calling out runners running stop signs (even though we do it all the time), Thomas's flirtation with a stress fracture, high fructose frozen popsicle fun, and whether or not metal detecting is cool or ever has been. Real important stuff for runners. Get all the details and RSVP for 5th Avenue Mile shakeout run in New York City on Saturday, September 9: https://mailchi.mp/believeintherun.com/5thaveshakeout This episode is sponsored by Electrolit, a scientifically formulated hydration beverage that replenishes the body during physical activity, intense heat, and other outdoor warm-weather activities. It's legit, we drink it, you should check them out. Learn more: Website: https://www.instagram.com/electrolit/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/electrolit/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/electrolitusa

If you follow track, the man needs no introduction. Chris Chavez is the founder of Citius Mag, a media brand dedicated to all things track and field. We talk about his role at Citius, the world of track and field, and what's it's like behind the scenes of running.
Follow Citius Mag on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/citiusmag/
Follow Chris on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chris_j_chavez/

We did the Cape Cod kwassa kwassa, running the Falmouth Road Race with Asics this past weekend. We recap all that, including Meg's completion of the Kofuzi Truly Challenge (and her amazing performance on race day). Robbe also scavenges someone's breakfast in the airport and you get to find out if we're gonna be cremated when we die, because why not. Oh, and we talk about the Puma Magnify Nitro 2, a max cushion trainer that we've been enjoying this week.

This episode is sponsored by Electrolit, a scientifically formulated hydration beverage that replenishes the body during physical activity, intense heat, and other outdoor warm-weather activities. It's legit, we drink it, you should check them out.

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We wish we knew her in our wilder days, but we know her now. Morgan Wade is a country music artist who also happens to love weightlifting, running, and ultrarunning. We talk about what it's like to be the Travis Barker lookalike of country music (she has a solid collection of tattoos), a woman in the industry, growing up in a small town, running trails, and more. This was a really fun conversation about running and life.

Download or stream her newest album "Psychopath," on August 25.

Listen to her debut album "Reckless," featuring her hit song "Wilder Days," wherever you get your music.

Follow Morgan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/morganwademusic/

Blink and it's 182. I guess this is growing up, but we're still kids at heart when it comes to discussing airplane etiquette, STD billboards in Baltimore, waterbeds for the rich and poor, and the all-new Brooks Ghost Max. This episode is sponsored by Electrolit, a scientifically formulated hydration beverage that replenishes the body during physical activity, intense heat, and other outdoor warm-weather activities. It's legit, we drink it, you should check them out. Learn more: Website: https://electrolit.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/electrolit/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/electrolitusa

Shoes and running apparel are cool, but they're a lot cooler when Greg Itahara gets his hands on them. Greg is a visual storyteller, an artist who has excelled at creating beautiful and unique designs that oftentimes find themselves on one-off shoes, including the hand-painted Asics Gel-Kayano 30 that he presented to Kayano-San himself at our office here in Baltimore. We were honored to have him in our studio to talk about art, storytelling, creativity, and more. Follow Greg on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itahara_art/

Things go sideways real quick this week as we try to test the limits of our listeners' attention spans. Thomas and Robbe discuss toothpaste squeezing methods, Thomas gets Robbe to try a drunken cookie recipe, Meg is handed a get out of jail free coin, and we also respond to the torrent of comments on our Dr. Phil Maffetone episode. One more stop on our Summer Hydration Tour! 8/19 - Boston - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #7 RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-7-boston/

We probably should have had him on a long time ago, but better late than never. Dr. Phil Maffetone is a coach, author, innovator, and founder of the 180 Formula and the MAF test for heart rate training. He's basically the godfather of the field, which has seen a huge surge in followers over the last decade. He's also been an advisor to music legends like Rick Rubin, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Johnny Cash, and James Taylor.

In this episode, we talk about heart rate training and its benefits, as well as his new research into music and its affect on the mind and training. This is a long one, but it was a lot of fun and super interesting!

Learn more about Dr. Maffetone's work: https://philmaffetone.com/

Meg forgets what week/month it is, Thomas may turn any day now (we're keeping him in a cage to be safe), Robbe catches crabs in a good way. We also recap Summer GRIT and Meg's time in Nashville, and take a quick look at the all-new collab between Puma and Ciele.
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8/10 - Atlanta - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #6
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8/19 - Boston - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #7
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Look, we had to know what they were all about, so we went straight to the source. Brett Fraser is the Chief Athletes Officer for the Enhanced Games, a sporting event without drug testing, billed as "an alternative to the corrupt Olympic Games."
This is an open conversation about the persistence of drugs in sport, the idea of "scientifically-enhanced" athletes, and whether or not that's a good thing or a bad thing for sport overall. There are definitely two sides to this issue and both have certain merits, whether you agree or not. Either way, we're interested to see how it plays out over the next year and a half.
Learn more about the Enhanced Games: https://enhanced.org/

This week, Thomas and Meg survive an animal attack (barely), Robbe narrowly avoids an animal attack, oh and also we had an amazing time at the Summer GRIT Party and Asics/Skratch Summer Hydration Tour stop #4. All that and a whole lot more in this episode, including an overview of the Salomon DRX Bliss.

Learn more and register for the Under Armour Sunset Tour: https://bit.ly/UA-SUNSET-TOUR

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7/29 - Nashville - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #5
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8/10 - Atlanta - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #6
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8/19 - Boston - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #7
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We didn't know this before we started, but apparently we just talked to the only person to podium at Marathon de Sables, UTMB, and Western States, where he just won a few weeks ago with the 4th-fastest time ever. And to think that it all started with a bet.
Tom Evans is an Adidas Terrex athlete and no doubt, one of the best ultrarunners in the world right now, throwing down incredible performances on some of the toughest courses in the game. We talk about how he got into running, why he drinks Red Bull before, during, and after his races, and how he's loving the new carbon-plated trail racing shoe coming from Adidas.
Follow Tom on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tomevansultra/
Shop Adidas Terrex: https://bit.ly/SHOP-ADIDAS-TERREX

Meg's really living up to the tour vibes as we find out when she recaps this weekend's Summer Hydration Tour visits in Austin and Miami. Robbe finds out what happens one week after you have a tick in your arm. Thomas has his own medical anomalies. And we talk about the Nike Ultrafly, which is probably one of the best Nike road shoes... but maybe not at $250.

Learn more about the Under Armour Sunset Tour: https://believeintherun.com/under-armour-sunset-tour/

Donate to Pat Blair's charity, Adventures For The Cure: https://adventuresforthecure.com/campaigns#2023-07%20AFC%20Summer%20Running%20Challenge

As a runner growing up in Portland, Ore., Ben Andrews was set to live the ultimate dream when he landed a spot on the University of Oregon track and field team. And then it all fell apart.

Andrews is a motivational speaker, realtor, and author of "The Long Run," a book about overcoming adversity and seeing your dreams through until the end. We talk about his life, his book, what running has meant to him, and how to get the most out of all of it.

Learn more about Ben and pick up The Long Run: https://www.benandrews.com/the-long-run.html

Thomas and Robbe recap last weekend's trip to Oakland with Renegade Running and Norda, giving you all the behind-the-scenes commentary on 48 hours of life in the bay city. From pest control to redwood trees to sketchy bus rides up a mountain, it was an action-packed weekend. We also recap week 2 of Summer GRIT, and cover what we liked and didn't like about the Norda 002.

Learn more and register for the Under Armour Sunset Tour: https://bit.ly/UA-SUNSET-TOUR
RSVP for our upcoming events! 7/8 - Oakland - Norda 002 Launch w/ Renegade Running (& Live Podcast) RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/norda-launch/ 7/14 - Austin - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #1 RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-1/ 7/17 - Miami - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #2 RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-2-miami/

On this special bonus episode of The Drop, Thomas and Robbe team up for a live audience podcast with Norda founders Nick and Willa Martire. Live from Renegade Running in Oakland, California. We talk about what it takes to start a shoe company (a lot), how their shoe is different from other models in the trail space, and how they navigated through certain obstacles on the way to where they are now. We also take some audience questions, which was a lot of fun.
The Norda 002 is a lightweight performance trail shoe featuring a ripstop-style Dyneema upper, Vibram midsole and Vibram Litebase with Megagrip outsole. Available now.
Shop Norda 002: https://nordarun.com/
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Alison took the unconventional route to running, having started at the age of 30. She has completed 7 full marathons, and a handful of half marathons, 10ks, and 5ks. Her love for the sport has quickly transcended into wanting to give others the same sense of accomplishment she felt after completing her first race. She is the leader of R.I.OT. Squad run club, and an SCI Physical Therapist Assistant, as well as a run coach.

Follow Alison on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alioop_0_o_runs/

Everyone's back in house and we're ready to recap some wild times, including Meg's trip to the New Balance Research Lab, Thomas going full Punisher on some shirts (they're sold out, btw), Robbe handling snakes and finding a visitor on his arm mid podcast. We also talk about the Saucony Kinvara Pro, one of the more confusing shoes we've run in recently. RSVP for our upcoming events! 7/14 - Austin - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #1 // RSVP here

7/17 - Miami - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #2 // RSVP here

7/20 - Summer GRIT Party/Summer Hydration Tour Stop #3 (open to all) - Ciele hats to first 150 RSVPs, free beer, Asics try-ons, and much more // RSVP here

7/22 - Oklahoma City - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #4 // RSVP here

7/29 - Nashville - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #5 // RSVP here

8/10 - Atlanta - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #6 // RSVP here

8/19 - Boston - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #7 // RSVP here

It's hard enough to run a 5:25 mile, but what about doing it nine months pregnant? Makenna Myler is a professional runner for Asics who qualified for the Olympic Trials in the 10k in 2021 and finished 14th less than a year after giving birth to her daughter. She's been running PRs ever since and in this episode we talk about what that looks like.

Follow Makenna on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/benzmakenz/

Meg's in Boston at the New Balance Research Lab with the Train to NYC team, but no worries, the podcast must go on. Thomas and Robbe manage to not burn headquarters down, though next week may be a different story when we go full Joe Dirt on our stash of 4th of July fireworks. Also, we talk about the On Cloudboom Echo 3, a $290 race day shoe that may or may not live up to the price tag. Also– Summer GRIT starts on Saturday! Kind of crept up on us, so not sure we even mentioned it, but we're ready to roll. RSVP for our upcoming events! 7/8 - Oakland - Norda 002 Launch w/ Renegade Running (& Live Podcast) RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/norda-launch/ 7/14 - Austin - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #1 RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-1/ 7/17 - Miami - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #2 RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-2-miami/

Listen up all you fans of GBBS- when you see those beautiful and intricate illustrations of the food they're about to make and bake on the show, Tom Hovey is the one behind it. He's also a dedicated runner and all-around great guy. This was a fun conversation and pairs perfectly with a buttercream cake frosting. Fire up the oven and listen in.

Tom's art: https://www.instagram.com/tomhoveyart/
Tom's running: https://www.instagram.com/tomhovey_runs/

Robbe's on vacation in Florida but we still make it work. We talk all things running, including the harsh realities of nature, fishing, facelifts, and we even manage to work in some thoughts on the Skechers Max Road 6.

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6/27 - Boston - Believe in the Run x New Balance SC Trainer v2 Group Run
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/believe-in-the-run-x-new-balance-sc-trainer-v2-group-run/

7/8 - Oakland - Norda 002 Launch w/ Renegade Running (& Live Podcast)
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/norda-launch/

7/14 - Austin - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #1
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7/17 - Miami - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #2
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Delano Johnson is unique in the world of runners in that he's a 6'5", 250-pound Canadian football defensive end (currently a free agent). A current Baltimore-area resident, Lo played college football at Bowie State University and has played professionally for the Houston Texans, Toronto Argonauts, Portland Thunder/Steel and Hamilton Tiger-Cats. He's also a member of our Train to NYC 2 team with New Balance and we couldn't be more excited to have him along on this journey. Follow Lo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/so_thankful10

After a tame time in Boulder, we're back in the wild, folks. That means we talk about everything from Meg's new gambling addiction (jk... maybe) to rat trapping in Baltimore to why it's absolutely criminal that Matthew Lillard wasn't nominated for an Oscar for his flawless portrayal of Shaggy in Scooby Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed. Think about it though: he really was robbed. Oh, we also talk about the Adidas Boston 12 and why it's finally come around to the greatness it once was.

Passionate about showing that everyone can be a runner, Martinus Evans weighed 380 pounds when he decided to run a marathon in response to an orthopedic specialist who called him "fat." Since then, he's lost over 80 pounds, started a run club with over 10,000 members worldwide, coached others, and written a book (available now). And his journey's just getting started.

Slow AF Run Club: The Ultimate Guide for Anyone Who Wants to Run to is available now Follow Martinus on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/300poundsandrunning

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We tried to talk as little about running as possible, but it turns out that Emma Bates is a pretty good runner (2nd at Chicago, 5th at Boston), so it kind of snuck in at times. We did talk about life during breaks between marathon blocks, living in Colorado, martini preferences, and more.

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Ever wonder who's behind the direction of a brand's running shoes? Like, at New Balance? Here's your guy, Paul Zielinski, Sr. Global Product Manager of Running at New Balance. We talk about running London and Boston and his career before diving into the behind-the-scenes business on the SC Trainer v2, Propel v3, and More Trail v3.

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I guess this is growing up... or not. Let's be real, we've never done that nor do we have any intention of doing so. On this episode of The Drop, we talk about Thomas and Robbe's Memorial Day date to Camden Yards, seeing Blink-182 in Baltimore, Meg crushing her workouts, and more. We also talk about the New Balance SC Trainer v2, which is different, but still pretty great. And another very special guest check-in!

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This spring, Ben Johnson (aka @benjohnson763) ran four marathons in four weeks: Boston, London, Eugene, and Wobegon, averaging a 2:49 pace. He only started running 5 years ago and has since lost a ton of weight and paced Meaghan to some of her personal bests along the way. He's also the true embodiment of Midwest nice and we're lucky to call him a friend. Hear about where he's at with his running, what it was like to run all those races, and what his goals are for 2023 and beyond.

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The team trained up to New York City to run the Brooklyn Half Marathon down to Coney Island as the first stop on our Train To NYC 2. We recap the race weekend, Thomas's experience with Dave's Hot Chicken, Jarrett's excellent race day, Meg's very solid progression run, and more. We also give our first thoughts on the New Balance SC Trainer v2.

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Florida man does 7 marathons in 7 days on 7 continents. David Kilgore did just that as part of his job as a sponsored Red Bull athlete. Oh, he's also the Global Head of Sports Innovation for On. And he's a professional trail runner who lives in New York City, which totally makes sense. All that to say– we had a great time talking to this amazing athlete about all his wild adventures.

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From Jesus lizards to birthday presents to announcing summer GRIT, we recap the past week of running and not running and everything in between. We also have a legend checking in this go around, so don't miss that. We also figure out if the Nobull Runner+ is a real running shoe (it is, mostly).

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Thomas and Meg sit down and chat with Ali Feller, host of the number one running podcast in America (every once in awhile we get there too) and probably also the nicest person in America. She's also a race announcer, recently handling finish line duties at the Boston Marathon. She's also a marathoner. And a mom. And a wife. She's pretty much a transformer but not in disguise. And she just ran a 3:41 marathon PR in Eugene! Hope you enjoy this talk as much as we did.

Things get regional on this episode of the drop as we discuss coke and pop, tennis shoes and sneakers, and also try to figure out Formula One. We also talk about our experience with Gnarly Hydrate margaritas and how Meg may have a new career in betting since her family won't support her. Drop your FanDuel referral link in the comments. Oh, we also talk about the Asics Magic Speed 3, a tempo trainer that seems like a sizable improvement over last year.

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Logging thousands of miles a year means we could always use strength and conditioning advice. Applying it is a whole different thing, but at least we'll have the knowledge. To get that knowledge, we talked to Jess Movold, a licensed strength and running coach for Runner’s World+ members. Just ran a lifetime PR in Boston, 3:12, and her first postpartum marathon. She currently lives in Austin, TX with her husband and son Battle, which is probably the coolest name a human could ask for. She’s also a new member of the Train to NYC!

Well, the whole gang hit the trails last week and it was part awesome, part humbling. Thomas and Jarrett went on a bro-date to the monster truck rally and came away with some revelations. Robbe navigates his running or lack thereof, as well as human waste issues that aren't his. Meg reports back on her first week of being coached by Andrew Kastor. And we also talk about the New Balance More Trail v3.

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We talked about her entry into running (her first marathon was London in 2012, where she ran for MIND in memory of her university housemate, Vic, who sadly took his own life after battling depression). Thoughts on being considered an influencer. How she’s a Six Star finisher. Her fertility journey -- she just had a child via surrogacy. And her next goal of hitting a BQ at the Valencia Marathon.