"There I was..." An Aviation Podcast

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There I was…, presented by the AOPA Air Safety Institute, invites you into the cockpit with pilots across the aviation community. We fly with them as they encounter unpredictable scenarios and we learn from the knowledge and skills they utilize to fly safely out of them. This podcast honors the tradition and heritage in aviation to leverage “hangar flying” as an avenue to pass along knowledge and experience.
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Published 2026-02-18

Episode 92: Icing in a Sling

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Newly minted instrument pilot Chris Yalanis launches on a long IFR trip in his Sling TSi. ATC issues a clearance that doesn’t match his plan, and a routine climb turns tense when he begins to pick up ice.

Published 2025-12-16

Episode 90: Exhaust Valve

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Flight test engineer Joey Brown recounts a New Year’s Eve flight in his Cessna 150 with his wife, when their trip is interrupted by violent engine vibration and power loss.

Published 2025-11-18

Episode 89: Gear-Up Landing

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Tony Williams and Ben Taylor prepare to ferry a Cessna 401 that’s been resurrected after almost 25 years in storage. Despite meticulous planning, high-speed taxi tests, and pattern work, a loud bang on downwind reveals a left-gear failure. With support from ATC, the pilots plan a deliberate gear-up landing on a foamed runway.

Published 2025-09-16

Episode 87: Safety Pilot

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Bob Thomason recounts a tense IMC approach as safety pilot for a friend facing a cancer diagnosis. When his friend panics and fights the autopilot, Bob must intervene to stabilize the aircraft.

Published 2025-01-14

Episode 79: Lost Comms

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As a newly minted private pilot, Sara Gagné takes her mother on a sunset flight around the Hawaiian island of Oahu. Not expecting any adverse issues during her very first flight with a passenger, Sara finds herself unable to establish radio communication.

NOTE: We realized we omitted a key detail in this episode. When the guest discusses the remedy of shining a phone flashlight against the radio panel to make the display brighter, she is most likely referring to the panel having a faulty light sensor. Some avionics have an auto-dimming feature that uses a light sensor, which adjusts the brightness of the display to coincide with the ambient light level.

We apologize for any confusion this may have caused.

Published 2024-12-17

Episode 78: "What's That Sound?"

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Peter Danzig hears a disturbing banging sound while flying his Bonanza A36 near Paso Robles, CA, and decides to make a precautionary landing at a small private airport. After landing, he must contend with less than ideal conditions in which to depart again.

Published 2024-11-26

Episode 77: Cow Pasture Landing

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While flying in his Piper Saratoga over the Mark Twain National Forest en route to Northeast Arkansas, Brent Reddick notices a subtle but disturbing drop in RPM, followed by a complete engine failure.

Published 2024-10-22

Episode 76: Eerie Encounter

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GA pilot Claudia Gibson recalls a flight on a late October night in Indiana, during her student pilot days. While on an extensive night training flight with multiple stops, Claudia and her instructor have an eerie encounter in the form of an unwanted guest on the runway.

Published 2024-09-17

Episode 75: Landing Gear Failure

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While shooting an IFR practice approach in his Twin Comanche, retired Air Canada pilot Marc Arsenault loses electrical power to his landing gear system. After realizing that a manual gear extension will not work, Marc must resort to creative thinking – and the help of a Swiss Army knife – to get the gear down.

Published 2024-07-15

Episode 73: Icing in an RV

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Climbing through 6,000 feet after departing Burke Lakefront Airport in Cleveland, pilot and aircraft builder Steve Gross encounters severe icing in his RV-9. With his indicated airspeed falling to 60 knots and his climb rate dropping to zero, Steve must take quick action.

Published 2024-06-19

Episode 72: Laser Strike

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GA pilot Jonathan Fay experiences a laser strike while in the traffic pattern for a night landing. He tells the story of what happened, and how he was able to track down the perpetrator afterward.

Published 2024-05-14

Episode 71: Engine Failure at Night

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On a night flight to Grand Strand Airport in Myrtle Beach, SC, pilot Greg Duckworth experiences an engine failure in his Rutan Long-EZ. With a sea of city lights below, Greg must resort to quick thinking and help from ATC to find a place to land.

Published 2024-04-16

Episode 70: Ferry Flight

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AOPA Western Pacific Regional Manager Jared Yoshiki recounts the story of purchasing his first airplane - a Cherokee 180. While ferrying it from Indiana to his home airport in California, things went awry.

Published 2024-03-11

Episode 69: Unexpected Fuel Consumption

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CFI Bill Tomkovic takes a Cessna 172 flight for the purpose of breaking in a new engine. In an effort to complete the break-in faster, Bill opts to fly longer than he originally intended. Unfortunately, the airplane’s fuel consumption is higher than he expects.

Published 2024-02-20

Episode 68: Engine Failure in the Pattern

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Student pilot Bradley Riedle was performing touch and goes with his instructor when they experienced an engine failure in their Cherokee 140. Bradley discusses the aftermath of the event, including a hard landing that resulted in aircraft damage and a back injury, as well as some unexpected anxiety during his first flight after the accident.

Published 2024-01-16

Episode 67: Stabilator Malfunction

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Retired airline captain and designated pilot examiner John Blum tells the story of giving a multiengine checkride in a Piper Seneca, when a loud bang from the tail section of the aircraft derailed the flight.

Published 2023-12-12

Episode 66: Trouble at Mile Hi - Part 2

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In part 2 of this 2-part episode, we hear the continuation of a story from a backcountry pilot who was involved in an aircraft accident at Mile Hi airstrip in Idaho. The pilot explains the aftermath of the accident in dealing with the NTSB, the FAA, and his insurance company.

Published 2023-05-15

Episode 60: Eric Hinson

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Eric Hinson, CEO of SIMCOM and former Navy pilot, experienced an engine failure immediately after takeoff in his Bonanza A36, while departing Orlando Sanford International Airport.

Published 2023-04-12

Episode 59: Chris Yates and Taylor Hash

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When Taylor Hash, a 21-year-old student pilot flying solo, lost her nosewheel on takeoff in a Diamond DA20, an experienced pilot, Chris Yates, witnessed the event and got on the radio to coach Taylor through a safe landing.

Published 2023-03-13

Episode 58: Ben Zwebner

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737 First Officer Ben Zwebner tells the story of a tense flight early in his aviation career, while he was working as a flight instructor out of Montgomery County Airpark in Maryland. While flying a photographer over Washington, D.C. in the Flight Restricted Zone (FRZ), Ben experienced an electrical fire in the cockpit of his Cessna 182.

Published 2023-02-12

Episode 57: Kerry McCauley - Part 2

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This episode features part two of our interview with ferry pilot Kerry McCauley. In this story, Kerry flies across Africa near the equator at night, facing thunderstorms, no navaids, and dead-reckoning his way across political boundaries.

Published 2023-01-04

Episode 55: Bruce Landsberg

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NTSB Vice Chairman (and former senior leader of the AOPA Air Safety Institute) Bruce Landsberg comments on the 2019 Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crash findings by Ethiopian authorities who downplayed training and other human factors.

Published 2022-10-17

Episode 52: Derick Jones

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New Hampshire-based pilot Derick Jones was flying his Cessna 172 to Lawrence Municipal Airport in Massachusetts, in IMC conditions, when he experienced a complete electrical failure.

Published 2022-09-12

Episode 51: Devin Miller

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GA pilot Devin Miller, first featured on the podcast in 2019, joins us again to talk about a more recent incident – an engine failure while flying a PA-34 Seneca III.

Published 2022-08-15

Episode 50: Cody Goodan

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Regional airline pilot Cody Goodan tells the story of an incident he experienced shortly after earning his private pilot’s license as a senior in high school. During a series of touch-and-go’s in a Cessna 172 carrying 3 friends, the combination of weight and density altitude resulted in disaster.

Published 2022-07-11

Episode 49: Michael Koury

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Michael Koury tells the story of flying his Cherokee 160, VFR from Sun Valley Airport in Arizona to St. George Regional Airport in Utah. With only 15 miles remaining in his trip, Michael suddenly found himself in blizzard conditions and zero visibility.

On a November afternoon, pilots Paul Loewenstein and Larry Suter, both members of the Northern California Soaring Association at Byron Airport, took off just a short time apart from each other in separate gliders. While both heading toward nearby Mt. Diablo, the two gliders experienced a mid-air collision.

Published 2022-05-11

Episode 47: Trevor Peterson

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During a training flight from Camarillo to John Wayne Airport in southern California, CFI Trevor Peterson and his student found themselves dealing with a rough running engine and loss of oil pressure in their 172.

Published 2022-04-12

Episode 46: Andrew Edgerton

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As part of the AOPA Air Safety Institute’s 2022 campaign to eliminate VFR into IMC accidents, this episode features a discussion with helicopter pilot Andrew Edgerton, who inadvertently found himself in instrument conditions while flying an R44 Raven II from Quebec City to Baie-Comeau in Canada.

Published 2022-03-16

Episode 45: Drew Ryan and Potomac TRACON

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GA pilot Drew Ryan, along with brothers Eric and David Lomascolo (both air traffic controllers from Potomac TRACON), join us to recount the story of Drew’s flight in a snowstorm while flying from Albany, NY, to Manassas, VA, and the brothers’ help to bring him to safety.

Published 2022-02-15

Episode 44: Brian Lenzmeier

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Having purchased a Cirrus SR22 just a couple of days prior, pilot Brian Lenzmeier departed on a flight from Addison to Waco, TX with an instructor pilot on board. What followed was an engine and avionics failure that resulted in a CAPS (Cirrus Airframe Parachute System) pull over the busy Dallas area.

Published 2022-01-19

Episode 43: Russ Jeter

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Living with the consequences of an aircraft accident is hard. Living with the loss of a son is excruciating. In this episode we take a sobering look at one pilot's personal tragedy, the devastation it wrought, and the lessons all of us can take from it.

Warning: This episode involves a fatality. Listener discretion is advised.

You can find a video version of this story on the Air Safety Institute's YouTube channel.

In this episode, we talk to pilots Lynn McNorton and Genesah Duffy, who had a chance encounter in Tampa Bay just south of Peter O. Knight Airport. After experiencing engine trouble in his Mooney M20M, McNorton was forced to ditch the airplane in the bay just short of Runway 4. Duffy was nearby in an Icon A5 and was able to land in the water to render assistance.

Published 2021-11-30

Episode 41: Dario Costa

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In this special edition of “There I was…”, host Richard McSpadden and AOPA’s Cayla McLeod interview Red Bull Air Race competitor Dario Costa, who debriefs his 44-second flight inside two Turkish highway tunnels, and the painstaking planning and preparation that got him safely through.
Published 2021-08-20

Episode 37: Brian Lloyd

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In the summer of 2017, aviator Brian Lloyd began a solo round-the-world flight in his Mooney to commemorate Amelia Earhart’s famous equatorial route 80 years prior. While on a flight leg from New Zealand to American Samoa, Brian experienced an engine failure over the Pacific Ocean.
Published 2021-06-15

Episode 35: John Lancaster

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Former Washington Post reporter John Lancaster shares the story of flying across the U.S. in his Flight Design CTLSi light-sport aircraft, for a book he is writing about the 1919 Transcontinental Air Race. While tracing the route flown by pilots in the Air Race 100 years ago, John faced challenges with weather, congested airspace, mountainous terrain, and more. Look for the release of John's book in the next year or two! Note: This interview was recorded in August 2019.
Published 2021-05-25

Episode 34: Craig Beles and Truman O'Brien

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On an IFR flight from Bend, Oregon to Vashon Island, WA, Craig Beles and his friend and CFI Truman O’Brien experienced an engine failure in their PA-28 Cherokee 140. Over vast wilderness with no ideal landing options, the pair are forced to put the aircraft down in the treetops near Mt. St. Helens.
Published 2021-02-17

Episode 30: Terry Pretzloff

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GA pilot and Cirrus Training Center Instructor Terry Pretzloff tells us about a flight from Chicago Midway to Rochester, Minnesota in a Cirrus SR22. Despite thorough preflight planning, Terry encountered hazardous icing conditions worse than forecast, and he shares with us how he took action to get on the ground safely.
Published 2021-01-20

Episode 29: Dennis Martin

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Helicopter pilot Dennis Martin joins us to talk about an incident he had after departing the AOPA Fly-In at Carbondale, IL in 2018. While flying his Enstrom 480B from Carbondale to Chicago Executive Airport, Dennis experienced deteriorating weather conditions and found himself in half-mile visibility.
Published 2020-12-15

Episode 28: Doug Stewart

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Master Certified Flight Instructor, DPE and general aviation icon Doug Stewart joins us to talk about an incident he had in a 1974 Cessna Cardinal at a small New Hampshire airport. While departing the 1,900 foot strip, Doug experienced a loss of power following takeoff, with trees at the end of the runway quickly approaching.
Published 2020-11-03

Episode 27: Todd Clark

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In this episode we talk to Todd Clark, a 700-hour pilot based in beautiful Kalispell, MT. Todd experienced a gear-up landing in his Mooney M20J, and he joins us to talk about the day’s events that led up to the incident.
Published 2020-10-07

Episode 26: Mirek Fatyga

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Join us as we talk to Mirek Fatyga, a commercial-rated pilot based in Phoenix, AZ. Mirek tells the story of piloting a Tecnam light sport aircraft at night, when he flew through a tree while on approach to land at an airport near Richmond, VA.
Published 2020-09-10

Episode 25: Loren Kopseng

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In this episode, we chat with longtime GA pilot Loren Kopseng. Loren experienced an alarming bird strike at night while flying his Aviat Husky out of North Dakota, and he joins us to tell the story. To see photos from Loren's incident, click here.
Published 2020-08-25

Episode 24: Jon Gandy

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If you've called AOPA’s Pilot Information Center, you’ll recognize this episode's guest: pilot and AOPA employee Jon Gandy. As an Aviation Technical Specialist from the PIC, Jon brings a wealth of knowledge, and shares a story in which he experienced a partial engine failure in a PA-31 Piper Navajo, which created a distraction and caused an inadvertent gear-up landing.
Published 2020-07-28

Episode 23: Robert Clark

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VFR into IMC continues to be a leading cause of fatal accidents in general aviation. In this episode, we talk to a pilot who was fortunate enough to escape from this highly dangerous scenario. Robert Clark recounts the story of flying his Dyke Delta aircraft through unexpected instrument conditions - at night, during an electrical failure.
Published 2020-06-18

Episode 22: Mark Murphy

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Over the past 33 years of flying - including aerobatics in the P-51 Mustang, T-6 Texan, Japanese Zero, and F4U Corsair - pilot Mark Murphy has accumulated his share of stories. He joins us to talk about one such story - an unexpected flat spin in a Christen Eagle.
Published 2020-05-21

Episode 21: Thomas Middleditch

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Join us for a special episode as we chat with actor, comedian, screenwriter and general aviation pilot Thomas Middleditch about his flying adventures, including a time where a trip to Monument Valley (UT25) didn’t go as planned. To see the video version of this podcast, click here.
Published 2020-03-19

Episode 19: Jeff King

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GA pilot Jeff King shares the story of a 2009 incident in which he experienced an engine failure in his Cherokee Six, and made a forced landing in a nearby Walmart parking lot. To see video and photos from Jeff's incident, click here.
Published 2020-02-19

Episode 18: Chuck Cook

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In this episode, we hear an incredible survival story from Chuck Cook, T-28 warbird pilot. In the summer of 2018, shortly after a warning light in the cockpit caused him to separate from a formation flight and head back to his home airport, Chuck experienced thick billowing smoke and a fire in the cockpit of his T-28. Chuck crash-landed the airplane near the runway threshold and managed to escape from the burning wreckage with his life. Warning: This episode contains graphic descriptions of burn injuries. Listener discretion is advised.
Published 2020-02-12

Episode 17: Greg Soter

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Join us as we talk to Greg Soter, a long-time GA pilot based in Utah. In 2013, Greg was flying a Cessna 172 for a company testing radar gear, when the equipment caught fire in the backseat and forced Greg to make an emergency landing off-airport.
Published 2019-12-16

Episode 15: Julie Clark

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In this episode, we talk to aerobatic airshow performer and Living Legends of Aviation member Julie Clark. Against the backdrop of a distinguished career and her retirement in 2019, Julie shares some interesting experiences and lessons she’s learned over more than 40 years as a solo aerobatic pilot.
Published 2019-11-21

Episode 14: Devin Miller

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Join us as we chat with Devin Miller, GA pilot and creator behind the Youtube channel, Family Pilot. Devin shares the story of a recent flight with his wife and children in a Piper Arrow, in which his throttle cable breaks and leaves the engine stuck at full throttle. To see Devin’s Youtube video of the incident, click here.
Published 2019-10-17

Episode 13: Dan Bass

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In this episode, we talk to Minnesota-based pilot Dan Bass. While flying his Mooney on a return trip from Ontario, Dan experienced carbon monoxide poisoning and lost consciousness while airborne. Hear Dan’s incredible story of survival as he wakes up in a snow-covered field in the bitter February cold. To see photos from Dan's incident, click here.
Published 2019-08-23

Episode 12: Air Trek

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In this episode, we talk with Florida-based air ambulance service Air Trek. On a routine transport flight from Naples to Niagara Falls, Captain Bruce Monnier and co-captain Gerald Downs experienced a dual engine flameout in their Cessna Citation II. Strangely, that wasn’t the only jet in Air Trek’s fleet to experience an emergency that day. Join us as we talk to the pilots and hear how they worked together to land safely – and uncover the cause of the incident.
Join us on an adventure in the Caribbean as we talk to Ed Regensburg, Cirrus SR22 pilot, and Lt. Jillian Harner, commander of a US Coast Guard HC-144. Flying home after a trip to St. Croix, Ed was piloting a Cirrus SR22 with his friend, Dan Tucker, when a drop in oil pressure and subsequent engine failure forced them to pull the plane’s parachute and land in the Atlantic Ocean. Meanwhile, a Coast Guard HC-144, led by Lt. Jillian Harner, heard the distress call and began the search and rescue mission. To see video and photos from this story, click here.
Published 2019-04-24

Episode 10: Jim Johnson

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25-year GA pilot Jim Johnson shares the story of a hot Sunday afternoon in Alabama when he set out to practice approaches in his Cessna 177RG, and experienced an engine failure just after takeoff. To see photos from Jim’s incident, click here.
Published 2019-02-01

Episode 9: Steve Guetter

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In this episode, we hear a story from Steve Guetter, president of the Minnesota Seaplane Pilots Association. Steve experienced a complete electrical failure while flying at night in his 1958 J model Bonanza. Listen in as Steve recounts the event and explains the actions he took to land safely.
Published 2018-08-20

Episode 8: Aaron Tippin

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Country music star Aaron Tippin has been a pilot since he was 16, just like his dad, and he’s keeping that tradition alive through his two sons, both of whom soloed more than one airplane on their 16th birthday. In this episode, Aaron describes the dynamic of being a father & CFI, as well as the joys and challenges that come with getting your kids ready to solo a Stearman, T-6, and J-3 Cub all on the same day.
Published 2018-05-22

Episode 7: Mark Levy

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In this episode, British warbird pilot Mark Levy stops by Richard’s hangar to discuss an engine failure he experienced in a P-51 Mustang during the annual airshow at Duxford, England, in 2017. Levy recorded the entire event with a pair of point-of-view video cameras, and he shared his analysis, along with the video, with the Air Safety Institute. For a condensed video clip of the engine failure, click here - https://youtu.be/jnODYKx5ics For the full video including analysis and breakdown of the event, click here - https://youtu.be/BBpqvPujZgM This podcast episode is an audio version of the full analysis video.
Published 2018-04-18

Episode 6: Michael Goulian

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Airshow performer and aerobatic pilot Michael Goulian shares some interesting situations he’s encountered over a lifelong career of flying, and provides a few safety lessons along the way. Listen in as we chat with one of North America’s most recognized aviation professionals.
Published 2018-01-23

Episode 5: Mark Baker

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In this episode, we sit down with AOPA President & CEO, Mark Baker. Mark is an accomplished aviator with almost four decades of flying experience, and he has flown and owned over 100 airplanes throughout the years. Mark shares some of the challenging situations he’s experienced, and he also gives practical advice on how to transition between different airplanes successfully.
Published 2017-12-13

Episode 4: Kenny G

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World-famous saxophonist Kenny G has been entertaining audiences for decades with his music – and he’s also a very accomplished pilot. As the owner of a de Havilland DHC-2 Beaver since 1995, Kenny has flown all over the country in his airplane, and in the process he’s accumulated a few stories! Listen in as he shares some interesting experiences.
Published 2017-11-02

Episode 3: Sean D. Tucker

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Renowned aerobatic pilot and airshow performer Sean D. Tucker recalls a life-threatening emergency he faced in 2006, when he lost elevator control in his airplane and was forced to bail out. Listen to Sean’s harrowing tale as he recounts the steps he took to survive.
Published 2017-08-01

Episode 2: Lee Lauderback

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In this episode, we talk to Lee Lauderback - owner, founder, chief instructor and demo pilot for Stallion 51 (a P-51 operation in Orlando), and former chief pilot for Arnold Palmer. Lee recalls a landing gear emergency in a TF-51 Mustang. Tune in to hear how Lee evaluates the situation and takes action.
Published 2017-05-24

Episode 1: Patty Wagstaff

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U.S. National Aerobatic Champion Patty Wagstaff recounts a Cessna 185 flight in southwest Alaska, where she loses her bearings and encounters IMC. Learn how Patty keeps her cool under pressure and climbs through ice to get her and her passenger safely to their destination.