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Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That's true for a traffic stop, and it's true if you want to participate in whatever's left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it's that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week's most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it's Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we've got you covered.
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Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That's true for a traffic stop, and it's true if you want to participate in whatever's left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it's that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week's most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it's Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we've got you covered.
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Well, it's finally happened. A federal judge has finally ruled that we are not being invaded by Venezuela and so the president can't just shout "ALIEN ENEMIES ACT" as an excuse to kidnap people and send them to a torture gulag in El Salvador. And it was a Trump appointee who did it! Also, Mike Lindell is somehow still here.

Links:

Conservative Judge Saves VOA, Savages SCOTUS

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/conservative-judge-saves-voa-savages

J.A.V. v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69862833/jav-v-trump

'Historical loss': Alleged gang leader evades US justice with deportation to El Salvador

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/24/politics/ms-13-leader-deported-el-salvador-boasberg-order/index.html

Madawhi v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69888582/mahdawi-v-trump/

Eric Coomer: Pawn Plant or Perp?

https://www.scribd.com/document/511804143/1-5019632676605264266

Dominion v. Lindell DC Docket (Judge Nichols)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/

Coomer v. Lindell Colorado Docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cod.215068/

Redline of "draft" versus final opposition filed in Colorado

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cod.215068/gov.uscourts.cod.215068.311.2_1.pdf

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Well, it's finally happened. A federal judge has finally ruled that we are not being invaded by Venezuela and so the president can't just shout "ALIEN ENEMIES ACT" as an excuse to kidnap people and send them to a torture gulag in El Salvador. And it was a Trump appointee who did it! Also, Mike Lindell is somehow still here.

Links:

Conservative Judge Saves VOA, Savages SCOTUS

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/conservative-judge-saves-voa-savages

J.A.V. v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69862833/jav-v-trump

'Historical loss': Alleged gang leader evades US justice with deportation to El Salvador

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/24/politics/ms-13-leader-deported-el-salvador-boasberg-order/index.html

Madawhi v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69888582/mahdawi-v-trump/

Eric Coomer: Pawn Plant or Perp?

https://www.scribd.com/document/511804143/1-5019632676605264266

Dominion v. Lindell DC Docket (Judge Nichols)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/

Coomer v. Lindell Colorado Docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cod.215068/

Redline of "draft" versus final opposition filed in Colorado

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cod.215068/gov.uscourts.cod.215068.311.2_1.pdf

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Judges across the country are calling BS on the Trump administration's lies in court. But the government has come up with a genius plan to impress the judiciary by perpwalking a Wisconsin judge out of her own courthouse. If that doesn't work, they'll try contaminated milk.

Links:

STRENGTHENING AND UNLEASHING AMERICA'S LAW ENFORCEMENT TO PURSUE CRIMINALS AND PROTECT INNOCENT CITIZENS

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/strengthening-and-unleashing-americas-law-enforcement-to-pursue-criminals-and-protect-innocent-citizens/

State of NY v. Department of Education [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69944116/state-of-new-york-v-department-of-education/

American Bar Association v. DOJ [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69934429/american-bar-association-v-us-department-of-justice/

NTEU v. Vought [DDC docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69624423/national-treasury-employees-union-v-vought/?

NTEU v. Vought [DC Cir docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69821739/national-treasury-employees-union-v-russell-vought/

Trump Administration Previews Genius New Legal Strategy

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/trump-admin-previes-genius-new-legal

US v. Dugan docket (E.D. Wisc.)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69943130/united-states-v-dugan/

Russell W. Currier and John A. Widness, A Brief History of Milk Hygiene and Its Impact on Infant Mortality from 1875 to 1925 and Implications for Today: A Review, Journal of Food Protection (Oct. 2018)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0362028X22087610

Could changes at the FDA call the kosher status of milk into question? Many are asking. Jerusalem Post, April 25, 2025

https://www.jpost.com/food-recipes/article-851470

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Judges across the country are calling BS on the Trump administration's lies in court. But the government has come up with a genius plan to impress the judiciary by perpwalking a Wisconsin judge out of her own courthouse. If that doesn't work, they'll try contaminated milk.

Links:

STRENGTHENING AND UNLEASHING AMERICA'S LAW ENFORCEMENT TO PURSUE CRIMINALS AND PROTECT INNOCENT CITIZENS

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/strengthening-and-unleashing-americas-law-enforcement-to-pursue-criminals-and-protect-innocent-citizens/

State of NY v. Department of Education [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69944116/state-of-new-york-v-department-of-education/

American Bar Association v. DOJ [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69934429/american-bar-association-v-us-department-of-justice/

NTEU v. Vought [DDC docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69624423/national-treasury-employees-union-v-vought/?

NTEU v. Vought [DC Cir docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69821739/national-treasury-employees-union-v-russell-vought/

Trump Administration Previews Genius New Legal Strategy

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/trump-admin-previes-genius-new-legal

US v. Dugan docket (E.D. Wisc.)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69943130/united-states-v-dugan/

Russell W. Currier and John A. Widness, A Brief History of Milk Hygiene and Its Impact on Infant Mortality from 1875 to 1925 and Implications for Today: A Review, Journal of Food Protection (Oct. 2018)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0362028X22087610

Could changes at the FDA call the kosher status of milk into question? Many are asking. Jerusalem Post, April 25, 2025

https://www.jpost.com/food-recipes/article-851470

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After burning down its credibility with every judge in the country, the Trump administration finds itself slapped with injunctions in every courtroom. Coincidence? Plus, the Department of Homeland Security discovers one weird trick to get around court orders barring deportations. And it is … to stand back and let the Defense Department do it for them!

Links:

MTA v. Duffy (NY Congestion Pricing) [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69652290/metropolitan-transportation-authority-v-duffy

House Dems Demand Letters to Vichy Bar

https://min.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/min.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/04.24.25-letters-to-law-firms-on-trump-administration-agreements-all.pdf

SDNY resignation letter

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/04/22/nyregion/prosecutor-letter.html

City and County of San Francisco v. Donald J. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69623767/city-and-county-of-san-francisco-v-donald-j-trump/

Abramowitz v. Lake [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69791808/abramowitz-v-lake/

J.A.V. v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69862833/jav-v-trump/

D.V.D. v. Homeland Security (Notice of Removal to Third Country) [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69775896/dvd-v-us-department-of-homeland-security/

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After burning down its credibility with every judge in the country, the Trump administration finds itself slapped with injunctions in every courtroom. Coincidence? Plus, the Department of Homeland Security discovers one weird trick to get around court orders barring deportations. And it is … to stand back and let the Defense Department do it for them!

Links:

MTA v. Duffy (NY Congestion Pricing) [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69652290/metropolitan-transportation-authority-v-duffy

House Dems Demand Letters to Vichy Bar

https://min.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/min.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/04.24.25-letters-to-law-firms-on-trump-administration-agreements-all.pdf

SDNY resignation letter

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/04/22/nyregion/prosecutor-letter.html

City and County of San Francisco v. Donald J. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69623767/city-and-county-of-san-francisco-v-donald-j-trump/

Abramowitz v. Lake [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69791808/abramowitz-v-lake/

J.A.V. v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69862833/jav-v-trump/

D.V.D. v. Homeland Security (Notice of Removal to Third Country) [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69775896/dvd-v-us-department-of-homeland-security/

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The Trump administration spent the weekend trying hard to rendition immigrants to foreign gulags. But Supreme Court took some baby steps this weekend toward maybe possibly doing their damn jobs and ensuring that the rule of law survives. And in the biggest surprise since the stock market dropping like a rock on news of crippling tariffs on China, Pete Hegseth is texting war plans AGAIN. And for subscribers, Harvard University sues the Trump administration.

Links:

D.V.D. v. Homeland Security (Notice of Removal to Third Country) [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69775896/dvd-v-us-department-of-homeland-security/

AFGE, AFL-CIO v. Office of Personnel Management [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69655364/american-federation-of-government-employees-afl-cio-v-united-states/

President and Fellows of Harvard College v. US Department of Health and Human Services

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69921962/president-and-fellows-of-harvard-college-v-us-department-of-health-and/

American Oversight v. Hegseth [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69788832/american-oversight-v-hegseth/

A.A.R.P. (W.M.M.) v. Trump [SCOTUS Docket]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a1007.html

W.M.M. (A.A.R.P.) v. Trump [Trial Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69898198/wmm-v-donald-j-trump/

A.A.R.P. (W.M.M.) v. Trump [Fifth Circuit Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69913684/aarp-v-trump/

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The Trump administration spent the weekend trying hard to rendition immigrants to foreign gulags. But Supreme Court took some baby steps this weekend toward maybe possibly doing their damn jobs and ensuring that the rule of law survives. And in the biggest surprise since the stock market dropping like a rock on news of crippling tariffs on China, Pete Hegseth is texting war plans AGAIN. And for subscribers, Harvard University sues the Trump administration.

Links:

D.V.D. v. Homeland Security (Notice of Removal to Third Country) [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69775896/dvd-v-us-department-of-homeland-security/

AFGE, AFL-CIO v. Office of Personnel Management [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69655364/american-federation-of-government-employees-afl-cio-v-united-states/

President and Fellows of Harvard College v. US Department of Health and Human Services

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69921962/president-and-fellows-of-harvard-college-v-us-department-of-health-and/

American Oversight v. Hegseth [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69788832/american-oversight-v-hegseth/

A.A.R.P. (W.M.M.) v. Trump [SCOTUS Docket]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a1007.html

W.M.M. (A.A.R.P.) v. Trump [Trial Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69898198/wmm-v-donald-j-trump/

A.A.R.P. (W.M.M.) v. Trump [Fifth Circuit Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69913684/aarp-v-trump/

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Chief Justice Roberts and the howler monkeys rolled over and played dead. But lower court judges understand the assignment, including Fourth Circuit Judge Harvie Wilkinson, a conservative icon. He read Trump — and implicitly the Supreme Court — for filth. But will it be enough? Liz and Andrew discuss the latest developments in the Salvadoran rendition cases. Plus, Trump moves to put US taxpayers on the hook for the E. Jean Carroll verdict.

Links:

Abrego Garcia v. Noem [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

Abrego Garcia v. Noem [Fourth Circuit Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69902650/kilmar-abrego-garcia-v-kristi-noem/

Noem v. Abrego Garcia [SCOTUS Docket]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a949.html

J.G.G. v. Trump [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/

J.G.G. v. Trump [SCOTUS Docket]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a931.html

Carroll v. Trump [Second Circuit Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68985738/carroll-v-trump/

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Chief Justice Roberts and the howler monkeys rolled over and played dead. But lower court judges understand the assignment, including Fourth Circuit Judge Harvie Wilkinson, a conservative icon. He read Trump — and implicitly the Supreme Court — for filth. But will it be enough? Liz and Andrew discuss the latest developments in the Salvadoran rendition cases. Plus, Trump moves to put US taxpayers on the hook for the E. Jean Carroll verdict.

Links:

Abrego Garcia v. Noem [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

Abrego Garcia v. Noem [Fourth Circuit Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69902650/kilmar-abrego-garcia-v-kristi-noem/

Noem v. Abrego Garcia [SCOTUS Docket]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a949.html

J.G.G. v. Trump [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/

J.G.G. v. Trump [SCOTUS Docket]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a931.html

Carroll v. Trump [Second Circuit Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68985738/carroll-v-trump/

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If Chief Justice Roberts thought he was going to protect the judiciary by throwing trial judges under the bus, he was spectacularly mistaken. The case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia is hurtling toward contempt proceedings, with the government in open defiance of the court's order to un-kidnap him. And meanwhile, Attorney General Pam Bondi is running the Justice Department like an arm of the Trump campaign. And for subscribers: Trump steals lunch from poor kids in Maine because the state's governor is nice to trans kids in accordance with Maine law. The state is suing, in a test case for the administration's plan to use tax dollars as a cudgel to force social policy without having to pass laws.

Links:

AP v. Budowich [DC Circuit Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69869862/associated-press-v-taylor-budowich/

AP v. Budowich [DC District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69662918/associated-press-v-budowich/

Susman Godfrey LLP v. Trump [Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69881953/susman-godfrey-llp-v-executive-office-of-the-president

US v. Smirnov [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68254959/united-states-v-smirnov

US v. Smirnov [Circuit Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69605315/united-states-of-america-v-smirnov/

US v. Mangione [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69486519/united-states-v-mangione/

US v. Villatoro Santos [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69804416/united-states-v-villatoro-santos/

Abrego Garcia v. Noem [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

Maine v. USDA [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69853711/state-of-maine-v-united-states-department-of-agriculture/

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If Chief Justice Roberts thought he was going to protect the judiciary by throwing trial judges under the bus, he was spectacularly mistaken. The case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia is hurtling toward contempt proceedings, with the government in open defiance of the court's order to un-kidnap him. And meanwhile, Attorney General Pam Bondi is running the Justice Department like an arm of the Trump campaign. And for subscribers: Trump steals lunch from poor kids in Maine because the state's governor is nice to trans kids in accordance with Maine law. The state is suing, in a test case for the administration's plan to use tax dollars as a cudgel to force social policy without having to pass laws.

Links:

AP v. Budowich [DC Circuit Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69869862/associated-press-v-taylor-budowich/

AP v. Budowich [DC District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69662918/associated-press-v-budowich/

Susman Godfrey LLP v. Trump [Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69881953/susman-godfrey-llp-v-executive-office-of-the-president

US v. Smirnov [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68254959/united-states-v-smirnov

US v. Smirnov [Circuit Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69605315/united-states-of-america-v-smirnov/

US v. Mangione [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69486519/united-states-v-mangione/

US v. Villatoro Santos [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69804416/united-states-v-villatoro-santos/

Abrego Garcia v. Noem [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

Maine v. USDA [District Docket]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69853711/state-of-maine-v-united-states-department-of-agriculture/

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The Supreme Court had two big immigration rulings this week on deportees to the Salvadoran gulag prison: One terrible and one … marginally okay. Meanwhile at the White House, Tariff Man is running amok! Luckily, he extorted hundreds of millions of dollars worth of big firm billable hours to defend the government. But not from Susman Godfrey, the target of his latest wildly illegal executive order.

Links:

Tech Policy Podcast with Corbin Barthold (Liz and Andrew guest appearance)

https://podcast.techfreedom.org/episodes/403-the-constitutional-crisis

Abrego Garcia v. Noem (D.Md. docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

Abrego Garcia (SCOTUS Docket)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a949.html

Perkins Coie Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69725919/perkins-coie-llp-v-us-department-of-justice/

J.G.G. v. Trump (SCOTUS docket)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a931.html

SCOTUS: Rendition Is Fine Actually

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/scotus-rendition-is-fine-actually

Jenner & Block Docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278932/

J.A.V. v. Trump (S.D. Texas docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69862833/jav-v-trump/

G.F.F. v. Trump (S.D.N.Y. docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69857769/gff-v-trump/

Susman Godfrey EO

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/modernizing-defense-acquisitions-and-spurring-innovation-in-the-defense-industrial-base-5

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The Supreme Court had two big immigration rulings this week on deportees to the Salvadoran gulag prison: One terrible and one … marginally okay. Meanwhile at the White House, Tariff Man is running amok! Luckily, he extorted hundreds of millions of dollars worth of big firm billable hours to defend the government. But not from Susman Godfrey, the target of his latest wildly illegal executive order.

Links:

Tech Policy Podcast with Corbin Barthold (Liz and Andrew guest appearance)

https://podcast.techfreedom.org/episodes/403-the-constitutional-crisis

Abrego Garcia v. Noem (D.Md. docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

Abrego Garcia (SCOTUS Docket)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a949.html

Perkins Coie Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69725919/perkins-coie-llp-v-us-department-of-justice/

J.G.G. v. Trump (SCOTUS docket)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a931.html

SCOTUS: Rendition Is Fine Actually

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/scotus-rendition-is-fine-actually

Jenner & Block Docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278932/

J.A.V. v. Trump (S.D. Texas docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69862833/jav-v-trump/

G.F.F. v. Trump (S.D.N.Y. docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69857769/gff-v-trump/

Susman Godfrey EO

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/modernizing-defense-acquisitions-and-spurring-innovation-in-the-defense-industrial-base-5

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Liz and Andrew sit down with fellow legal podcaster Ken White, AKA "Popehat," to discuss the Trump administration's attack on law firms. Who's fighting? Who's folding? And who's f—ed? Plus an update on the case of the Maryland man deported to a torture prison in El Salvador, and the legal effort to get him home. And for subscribers: The DC Circuit considers if Humphreys Executor is dead, or just mostly dead?

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Serious Trouble Podcast

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/serious-trouble/id1630160928

Wilcox docket (DC Cir)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69714705/gwynne-wilcox-v-donald-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

Abrego Garcia v Noem Docket (4th Cir)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69847836/kilmar-abrego-garcia-v-kristi-noem/

Perkins Coie Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69725919/perkins-coie-llp-v-us-department-of-justice/

Jenner & Block Docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278932/

WilmerHale Docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278933/

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Liz and Andrew sit down with fellow legal podcaster Ken White, AKA "Popehat," to discuss the Trump administration's attack on law firms. Who's fighting? Who's folding? And who's f—ed? Plus an update on the case of the Maryland man deported to a torture prison in El Salvador, and the legal effort to get him home. And for subscribers: The DC Circuit considers if Humphreys Executor is dead, or just mostly dead?

Links:

Serious Trouble Podcast

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/serious-trouble/id1630160928

Wilcox docket (DC Cir)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69714705/gwynne-wilcox-v-donald-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

Abrego Garcia v Noem Docket (4th Cir)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69847836/kilmar-abrego-garcia-v-kristi-noem/

Perkins Coie Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69725919/perkins-coie-llp-v-us-department-of-justice/

Jenner & Block Docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278932/

WilmerHale Docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278933/

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Why does the President of the United States not know what tariffs are, why does he want to crash the world economy, and can he do any of it? We answer as many of those questions as we can. Come for phi times epsilon times m sub i, stay for the Trading With the Enemy Act of 1917. Plus! Judge James Boasberg in D.C. is NOT HAPPY the administration flouted his orders and intends to figure out who was responsible and why. Also, things are about to get ugly at the D.C. Circuit.

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DC Circuit Local Rules

https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/sites/cadc/files/rules-RulesFRAP20241212c.pdf

Trump Tariff EO

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/regulating-imports-with-a-reciprocal-tariff-to-rectify-trade-practices-that-contribute-to-large-and-persistent-annual-united-states-goods-trade-deficits/

Trump Annex I to Tariff EO

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Annex-I.pdf

USTR on how tariffs are calculated

https://ustr.gov/issue-areas/reciprocal-tariff-calculations

The Economist, "President Trump's Mindless Tariffs Will Cause Economic Havoc"

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/04/03/president-trumps-mindless-tariffs-will-cause-economic-havoc

Forbes, "How Much Would An iPhone Cost If Apple Were Forced to Make it In America?"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/01/17/how-much-would-an-iphone-cost-if-apple-were-forced-to-make-it-in-america/

Emily Ley Paper Inc. v. Trump

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69842090/emily-ley-paper-inc-v-trump/

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Why does the President of the United States not know what tariffs are, why does he want to crash the world economy, and can he do any of it? We answer as many of those questions as we can. Come for phi times epsilon times m sub i, stay for the Trading With the Enemy Act of 1917. Plus! Judge James Boasberg in D.C. is NOT HAPPY the administration flouted his orders and intends to figure out who was responsible and why. Also, things are about to get ugly at the D.C. Circuit.

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DC Circuit Local Rules

https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/sites/cadc/files/rules-RulesFRAP20241212c.pdf

Trump Tariff EO

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/regulating-imports-with-a-reciprocal-tariff-to-rectify-trade-practices-that-contribute-to-large-and-persistent-annual-united-states-goods-trade-deficits/

Trump Annex I to Tariff EO

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Annex-I.pdf

USTR on how tariffs are calculated

https://ustr.gov/issue-areas/reciprocal-tariff-calculations

The Economist, "President Trump's Mindless Tariffs Will Cause Economic Havoc"

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/04/03/president-trumps-mindless-tariffs-will-cause-economic-havoc

Forbes, "How Much Would An iPhone Cost If Apple Were Forced to Make it In America?"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/01/17/how-much-would-an-iphone-cost-if-apple-were-forced-to-make-it-in-america/

Emily Ley Paper Inc. v. Trump

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69842090/emily-ley-paper-inc-v-trump/

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Time to round up the latest in lawsuits against the Trump administration. The trans military ban is blocked. Renditioning Venezuelans to El Salvador without due process is blocked. The shutdown of the CFPB is blocked. The shutdown of the US Inst of Peace … not blocked. Yet! Liz and Andrew run down a bunch of the Trump cases and explain why it seems like every day brings another restraining order. (Hint: It's because Trump wants to do lots of illegal stuff in a hurry.)

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Name & Shame

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/name-and-shame

Shilling v. Trump Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69617888/shilling-v-trump/

Jenner & Block v. DOJ Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69807126/jenner-block-llp-v-us-department-of-justice/

WilmerHale v. Executive Office of the President Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69807328/wilmer-cutler-pickering-hale-and-dorr-llp-v-executive-office-of-the/

Georgetown students' letter to Skadden

https://bsky.app/profile/heidilifeldman.bsky.social/post/3llon26enmc2o

US v. Sanders (5th Cir. 2025)

https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/15/15-31114-CR0.pdf

Eakin v. Adams County Board of Elections Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/65738841/eakin-v-adams-county-board-of-elections/

J.G.G. v. Trump (D.D.C. - Judge Boasberg - Alien Enemies Act) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/

Trump v. JGG (SCOTUS Docket)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a931.html

US Institute for Peace v. Jackson Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69754533/united-states-institute-of-peace-v-jackson/

NTEU v. Vought (DDC docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69624423/national-treasury-employees-union-v-vought/?

NTEU v. Vought (DC Cir Appeal)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69821739/national-treasury-employees-union-v-russell-vought/

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Time to round up the latest in lawsuits against the Trump administration. The trans military ban is blocked. Renditioning Venezuelans to El Salvador without due process is blocked. The shutdown of the CFPB is blocked. The shutdown of the US Inst of Peace … not blocked. Yet! Liz and Andrew run down a bunch of the Trump cases and explain why it seems like every day brings another restraining order. (Hint: It's because Trump wants to do lots of illegal stuff in a hurry.)

Links:

Name & Shame

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/name-and-shame

Shilling v. Trump Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69617888/shilling-v-trump/

Jenner & Block v. DOJ Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69807126/jenner-block-llp-v-us-department-of-justice/

WilmerHale v. Executive Office of the President Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69807328/wilmer-cutler-pickering-hale-and-dorr-llp-v-executive-office-of-the/

Georgetown students' letter to Skadden

https://bsky.app/profile/heidilifeldman.bsky.social/post/3llon26enmc2o

US v. Sanders (5th Cir. 2025)

https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/15/15-31114-CR0.pdf

Eakin v. Adams County Board of Elections Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/65738841/eakin-v-adams-county-board-of-elections/

J.G.G. v. Trump (D.D.C. - Judge Boasberg - Alien Enemies Act) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/

Trump v. JGG (SCOTUS Docket)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a931.html

US Institute for Peace v. Jackson Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69754533/united-states-institute-of-peace-v-jackson/

NTEU v. Vought (DDC docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69624423/national-treasury-employees-union-v-vought/?

NTEU v. Vought (DC Cir Appeal)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69821739/national-treasury-employees-union-v-russell-vought/

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Ep 119 — But Her Signal Messages

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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Trump hand-picked his national security team to troll the libs, and boy did he get us good. From Pete Hegseth to Tulsi Gabbard to John Ratcliffe, each pick seemed more incompetent than the last. But are they also criminals? We break down all the criminal, civil, and record-keeping issues in Signalgate. Also: we've got good news from the D.C. Circuit as a conservative panel declines to hand Trump the unreviewable power to deport anyone, anywhere under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. Things are… maybe looking up?

Links:

J.G.G. v. Trump (D.D.C. - Judge Boasberg - Alien Enemies Act) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/

J.G.G. v. Trump (DC Circuit) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69742127/jgg-v-donald-trump/

American Oversight v. Hegseth (D.D.C. - Judge Boasberg - Signalgate) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69788832/american-oversight-v-hegseth/

Shilling v. Trump (W.D. Wash - trans military ban) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69617888/shilling-v-trump/

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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Trump hand-picked his national security team to troll the libs, and boy did he get us good. From Pete Hegseth to Tulsi Gabbard to John Ratcliffe, each pick seemed more incompetent than the last. But are they also criminals? We break down all the criminal, civil, and record-keeping issues in Signalgate. Also: we've got good news from the D.C. Circuit as a conservative panel declines to hand Trump the unreviewable power to deport anyone, anywhere under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. Things are… maybe looking up?

Links:

J.G.G. v. Trump (D.D.C. - Judge Boasberg - Alien Enemies Act) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/

J.G.G. v. Trump (DC Circuit) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69742127/jgg-v-donald-trump/

American Oversight v. Hegseth (D.D.C. - Judge Boasberg - Signalgate) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69788832/american-oversight-v-hegseth/

Shilling v. Trump (W.D. Wash - trans military ban) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69617888/shilling-v-trump/

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Ep 118 — Trump v. Rule of Law

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It's another week in paradise with the Trump administration trying to burn down the government. First we'll talk about the attack on law firms and judges, then we've got a breakdown of the newest executive order on immigration silos. You know when they try to hide crazy sh*t under the most boring, generic label ever. It's that! Plus subscribers get a visit with Dinesh D'Souza.

Links:

Perkins Coie v. DOJ docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69725919/perkins-coie-llp-v-us-department-of-justice

JGG v. Trump (DC) docket (removal under the Alien Enemies Act)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump

Does 1-26 v. Musk [Docket]

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.576293

The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/

Presidential Proclamation on information silos

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/stopping-waste-fraud-and-abuse-by-eliminating-information-silos/

"Fact Sheet"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/03/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-eliminates-information-silos-to-stop-waste-fraud-and-abuse-60f3/

OMB Data on Improper Payments

https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/omb/briefing-room/2024/11/27/omb-releases-annual-data-showing-lowest-government-wide-improper-payment-rate-since-2014/

https://www.paymentaccuracy.gov/payment-accuracy-the-numbers/

GAO Report on Improper Payments

https://www.gao.gov/assets/d24106927.pdf

PIIA

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-III/chapter-33/subchapter-IV

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It's another week in paradise with the Trump administration trying to burn down the government. First we'll talk about the attack on law firms and judges, then we've got a breakdown of the newest executive order on immigration silos. You know when they try to hide crazy sh*t under the most boring, generic label ever. It's that! Plus subscribers get a visit with Dinesh D'Souza.

Links:

Perkins Coie v. DOJ docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69725919/perkins-coie-llp-v-us-department-of-justice

JGG v. Trump (DC) docket (removal under the Alien Enemies Act)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump

Does 1-26 v. Musk [Docket]

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.576293

The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/

Presidential Proclamation on information silos

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/stopping-waste-fraud-and-abuse-by-eliminating-information-silos/

"Fact Sheet"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/03/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-eliminates-information-silos-to-stop-waste-fraud-and-abuse-60f3/

OMB Data on Improper Payments

https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/omb/briefing-room/2024/11/27/omb-releases-annual-data-showing-lowest-government-wide-improper-payment-rate-since-2014/

https://www.paymentaccuracy.gov/payment-accuracy-the-numbers/

GAO Report on Improper Payments

https://www.gao.gov/assets/d24106927.pdf

PIIA

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-III/chapter-33/subchapter-IV

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Musk's fash-coders take out the US Institute for Peace. Mahmoud Khalil's case gets transferred to New Jersey. And the DOJ is daring the court to find it in contempt in the case of the kidnapped Venezuelans. Plus, we have the second half of our interview with immigration expert Aaron Reichlin-Melnick.

Links:

JGG v. Trump (DC) docket (removal under the Alien Enemies Act)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump

US Institute for Peace v. Jackson (docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69754533/united-states-institute-of-peace-v-jackson/

Khalil v. Joyce (docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69719040/khalil-v-joyce/

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Musk's fash-coders take out the US Institute for Peace. Mahmoud Khalil's case gets transferred to New Jersey. And the DOJ is daring the court to find it in contempt in the case of the kidnapped Venezuelans. Plus, we have the second half of our interview with immigration expert Aaron Reichlin-Melnick.

Links:

JGG v. Trump (DC) docket (removal under the Alien Enemies Act)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump

US Institute for Peace v. Jackson (docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69754533/united-states-institute-of-peace-v-jackson/

Khalil v. Joyce (docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69719040/khalil-v-joyce/

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Today, we've got an all-immigration show. We break down J.G.G. v. Trump, the lawsuit seeking to block Trump's effort to summarily deport Venezuelan nationals under a 227-year-old law left over from the Alien and Sedition Acts. Then, we have Part One of our interview with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, Senior Fellow at the American Immigration Council.

Links:

Presidential Proclamation

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/invocation-of-the-alien-enemies-act-regarding-the-invasion-of-the-united-states-by-tren-de-aragua/

JGG v. Trump (DC) docket (removal under the Alien Enemies Act)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

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Today, we've got an all-immigration show. We break down J.G.G. v. Trump, the lawsuit seeking to block Trump's effort to summarily deport Venezuelan nationals under a 227-year-old law left over from the Alien and Sedition Acts. Then, we have Part One of our interview with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, Senior Fellow at the American Immigration Council.

Links:

Presidential Proclamation

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/invocation-of-the-alien-enemies-act-regarding-the-invasion-of-the-united-states-by-tren-de-aragua/

JGG v. Trump (DC) docket (removal under the Alien Enemies Act)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

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New York Times financial editor David Enrich joins us to discuss his new book, Murder the Truth, about the history of defamation litigation and the right wing's plan to gut the Sullivan standard to make it easier for politicians to bankrupt journalists for saying mean, true things

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Murder the Truth

https://www.harpercollins.com/products/murder-the-truth-david-enrich?variant=42734343421986

Brehm v. Morocco (DDC) (USADF)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69711562/brehm-v-marocco/

Talbott v. Trump (DC) (trans servicemembers ban)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69583866/talbott-v-trump/

American Federation of Government Workers v. OPM (Cal.) (probationary employees)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69655364/american-federation-of-government-employees-afl-cio-v-united-states/

Trump SCOTUS birthright citizenship docket

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a884.html

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New York Times financial editor David Enrich joins us to discuss his new book, Murder the Truth, about the history of defamation litigation and the right wing's plan to gut the Sullivan standard to make it easier for politicians to bankrupt journalists for saying mean, true things

Links:

Murder the Truth

https://www.harpercollins.com/products/murder-the-truth-david-enrich?variant=42734343421986

Brehm v. Morocco (DDC) (USADF)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69711562/brehm-v-marocco/

Talbott v. Trump (DC) (trans servicemembers ban)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69583866/talbott-v-trump/

American Federation of Government Workers v. OPM (Cal.) (probationary employees)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69655364/american-federation-of-government-employees-afl-cio-v-united-states/

Trump SCOTUS birthright citizenship docket

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a884.html

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It's another week where the DOGE bros are trying to burn down the government, and another week where the courts are trying to stop it. For our main story, we focus on the Trump administration's crazy shenanigans at the United States Africa Development Corp. Trump may have tried to fire Senate-confirmed principal officers by email… to an email address that doesn't exist.

Links:

Perkins Coie Executive Order

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/addressing-risks-from-perkins-coie-llp/

Climate United Fund v. Citibank [Docket via CL]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69718818/climate-united-fund-v-citibank-na/

Trump's false claim that Stacey Abrams headed a group that got $1.9 billion

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/06/trump-stacey-abrams-fact-checker/

US v. Adams docket (SDNY) (charges against NYC Mayor Eric Adams)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.628916/

Brehm v. Morocco (DDC) (USADF)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69711562/brehm-v-marocco/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

USADF Act

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/chapter-7/subchapter-XXIII

USADF Bylaws

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278118/gov.uscourts.dcd.278118.7.5.pdf

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It's another week where the DOGE bros are trying to burn down the government, and another week where the courts are trying to stop it. For our main story, we focus on the Trump administration's crazy shenanigans at the United States Africa Development Corp. Trump may have tried to fire Senate-confirmed principal officers by email… to an email address that doesn't exist.

Links:

Perkins Coie Executive Order

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/addressing-risks-from-perkins-coie-llp/

Climate United Fund v. Citibank [Docket via CL]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69718818/climate-united-fund-v-citibank-na/

Trump's false claim that Stacey Abrams headed a group that got $1.9 billion

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/06/trump-stacey-abrams-fact-checker/

US v. Adams docket (SDNY) (charges against NYC Mayor Eric Adams)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.628916/

Brehm v. Morocco (DDC) (USADF)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69711562/brehm-v-marocco/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

USADF Act

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/chapter-7/subchapter-XXIII

USADF Bylaws

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278118/gov.uscourts.dcd.278118.7.5.pdf

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Today's episode is another roundup of how trial judges are playing whack-a-mole with the Trump administration, and how all of it fits in with Trump's plan to usurp Congress's power to reshape the country in his image. Plus, we've got some crazy stories featuring the Interim US Attorney for DC trying to strongarm Georgetown University, a blast from the past with bigoted Kentucky court clerk Kim Davis, and a subscriber bonus on an obscure Civ Pro rule that Trump plans to use to make terrible losing arguments in court.

Links:

Ermold v. Davis [Sixth Circuit Opinion, Gay Marriage Clerk Case]

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca6.151496/gov.uscourts.ca6.151496.6015541768.2.pdf

AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition v. Department of State (DC docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69627654/aids-vaccine-advocacy-coalition-v-united-states-department-of-state/

Harris v. Bessent DC Circuit appeal

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69704122/cathy-harris-v-scott-bessent/

Some asshole is signing your name to stupid letters

https://www.loweringthebar.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/browns_letter_1974.pdf

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Links:

Ermold v. Davis [Sixth Circuit Opinion, Gay Marriage Clerk Case]

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca6.151496/gov.uscourts.ca6.151496.6015541768.2.pdf

AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition v. Department of State (DC docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69627654/aids-vaccine-advocacy-coalition-v-united-states-department-of-state/

Harris v. Bessent DC Circuit appeal

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69704122/cathy-harris-v-scott-bessent/

Some asshole is signing your name to stupid letters

https://www.loweringthebar.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/browns_letter_1974.pdf

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Ep 112 — The (Judicial) Center Holds

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The Supreme Court is still sitting on its (tiny) hands, but trial judges are holding strong against the Trump administration's assault on the rule of law. We'll talk about the pushback to Trump's anti-trans executive orders, his assault on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and the effort to ensure that the Dear Leader can fire watchdogs at will. Plus subscribers get a deep dive on trial judges attempting to SCOTUS-proof their rulings to protect trans kids.

Links:

Dellinger v. Bessent [District Court Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69624836/dellinger-v-bessent

Dellinger v. Bessent [SCOTUS Docket]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a790.html

National Treasury Employees Union v. Vought [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69624423/national-treasury-employees-union-v-vought/

Jones v. Bondi [Docket via Court Listener]

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277335

Washington v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69620657/state-of-washington-v-trump/

PFLAG v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69614668/pflag-inc-v-donald-j-trump/

Seila Law v. CFPB [SCOTUS Opinion]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19-7_new_bq7d.pdf

Corporate Transparency Act, 31 USC § 5336

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5336

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The Supreme Court is still sitting on its (tiny) hands, but trial judges are holding strong against the Trump administration's assault on the rule of law. We'll talk about the pushback to Trump's anti-trans executive orders, his assault on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and the effort to ensure that the Dear Leader can fire watchdogs at will. Plus subscribers get a deep dive on trial judges attempting to SCOTUS-proof their rulings to protect trans kids.

Links:

Dellinger v. Bessent [District Court Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69624836/dellinger-v-bessent

Dellinger v. Bessent [SCOTUS Docket]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a790.html

National Treasury Employees Union v. Vought [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69624423/national-treasury-employees-union-v-vought/

Jones v. Bondi [Docket via Court Listener]

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277335

Washington v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69620657/state-of-washington-v-trump/

PFLAG v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69614668/pflag-inc-v-donald-j-trump/

Seila Law v. CFPB [SCOTUS Opinion]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19-7_new_bq7d.pdf

Corporate Transparency Act, 31 USC § 5336

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5336

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Ep 111 — Let the Sanctions Rain Down

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The Trump administration is now openly defying court orders as multiple trial court judges seek to rein in the government's illegal conduct. Are sanctions the solution? In at least one case, we won't know until Chief Justice Roberts releases the "administrative hold" he imposed to consider Trump's latest meritless request for help from the Supreme Court. All of this plus the return of ChatGPT lawyering and a subscriber bonus on the OG Coat Factory Law Firm!

Links:

Jack Smith 278e disclosure

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25522081-smith-john-l-special-counsels-office-smith-termination-278-2025-2025-01-10/

Talbott v. Trump

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69583866/talbott-v-trump/

Wadsworth v. Walmart (ChatGPT litigation)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67564066/wadsworth-v-walmart-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

Trump's anti-Covington EO (Patreon bonus)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/suspension-of-security-clearances-and-evaluation-of-government-contracts/

Doe v. Office of Personnel Management.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69582338/doe-v-office-of-personnel-management/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition v. US Department of State

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69627654/aids-vaccine-advocacy-coalition-v-united-states-department-of-state/

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The Trump administration is now openly defying court orders as multiple trial court judges seek to rein in the government's illegal conduct. Are sanctions the solution? In at least one case, we won't know until Chief Justice Roberts releases the "administrative hold" he imposed to consider Trump's latest meritless request for help from the Supreme Court. All of this plus the return of ChatGPT lawyering and a subscriber bonus on the OG Coat Factory Law Firm!

Links:

Jack Smith 278e disclosure

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25522081-smith-john-l-special-counsels-office-smith-termination-278-2025-2025-01-10/

Talbott v. Trump

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69583866/talbott-v-trump/

Wadsworth v. Walmart (ChatGPT litigation)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67564066/wadsworth-v-walmart-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

Trump's anti-Covington EO (Patreon bonus)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/suspension-of-security-clearances-and-evaluation-of-government-contracts/

Doe v. Office of Personnel Management.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69582338/doe-v-office-of-personnel-management/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition v. US Department of State

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69627654/aids-vaccine-advocacy-coalition-v-united-states-department-of-state/

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Ep 110 — It's A TROpallooza

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The Trump administration has been sued by everyone and their mother, and we're here to cover it all. From the First Amendment violations to the illegal terminations, we've got you covered. Plus, we've got an update in the Eric Adams case.

Links:

AP v. Budowich

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69662918/associated-press-v-budowich

Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends v. U.S. Department of Homeland Security

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69580474/philadelphia-yearly-meeting-of-the-religious-society-of-friends-v-us/

Trump Media & Technology Group Corp. v. De Moraes

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69650977/trump-media-technology-group-corp-v-de-moraes/

Mizelle Letter to Judge Srinivasan [via Bloomberg]

https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/r0FHd6DtBQwE/v0

Dunne/Pomerantz Feb. 20 amicus

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.628916/gov.uscourts.nysd.628916.135.0_1.pdf

US v. Adams criminal docket (SDNY)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69197933/united-states-v-adams/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

In re Flynn, 973 F.3d 74 (DC Cir. 2020)

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3512121653435918827

Bessent v. Dellinger (Supreme Court Shadow docket) order

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a790_6i79.pdf'

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The Trump administration has been sued by everyone and their mother, and we're here to cover it all. From the First Amendment violations to the illegal terminations, we've got you covered. Plus, we've got an update in the Eric Adams case.

Links:

AP v. Budowich

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69662918/associated-press-v-budowich

Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends v. U.S. Department of Homeland Security

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69580474/philadelphia-yearly-meeting-of-the-religious-society-of-friends-v-us/

Trump Media & Technology Group Corp. v. De Moraes

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69650977/trump-media-technology-group-corp-v-de-moraes/

Mizelle Letter to Judge Srinivasan [via Bloomberg]

https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/r0FHd6DtBQwE/v0

Dunne/Pomerantz Feb. 20 amicus

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.628916/gov.uscourts.nysd.628916.135.0_1.pdf

US v. Adams criminal docket (SDNY)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69197933/united-states-v-adams/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

In re Flynn, 973 F.3d 74 (DC Cir. 2020)

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3512121653435918827

Bessent v. Dellinger (Supreme Court Shadow docket) order

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a790_6i79.pdf'

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It's been another wild week as the Trump administration took some time off from breaking all the laws to break the rules of civil procedure. Will the Supreme Court let them get away with it?

Links:

AIDS VACCINE ADVOCACY COALITION v. UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69627654/aids-vaccine-advocacy-coalition-v-united-states-department-of-state/

Metropolitan Transportation Authority v. Duffy

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.637159

Dellinger v. Bessent Supreme Court docket

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a790.html

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It's been another wild week as the Trump administration took some time off from breaking all the laws to break the rules of civil procedure. Will the Supreme Court let them get away with it?

Links:

AIDS VACCINE ADVOCACY COALITION v. UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69627654/aids-vaccine-advocacy-coalition-v-united-states-department-of-state/

Metropolitan Transportation Authority v. Duffy

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.637159

Dellinger v. Bessent Supreme Court docket

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a790.html

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We follow up on the Thursday Night Massacre, as Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove finally got someone to file the paperwork to dismiss the case against New York Mayor Eric Adams. And we do a deep dive into Dellinger v. Bessent, as the Trump administration asks the Supreme Court to remind everyone that the laws don't actually apply to Donald Trump. All of that and DOCKET ALERTS!

Links:

Courts Stand Up For Trans Rights and the Rule of Law

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/courts-stand-up-for-trans-rights

Bove Feb. 10 letter to Sassoon (SDNY) ordering dropping of Adams prosecution

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/76308bc134b67d36/4cc46c59-full.pdf

Hagen Scotten resignation letter

https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents/0b16892a-b4a3-4511-9eab-44ff6f69a97f.pdf?itid=lk_inline_manual_4

US v. Adams docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.628916/

Nick Akerman amicus

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.628916/gov.uscourts.nysd.628916.124.0.pdf

Henry Cuellar criminal docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68499933/united-states-v-cuellar/

Dellinger v. Bessent district court docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277297/

Dellinger v. Bessent (DC Circuit docket)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cadc.41741/gov.uscourts.cadc.41741.01208711227.0.pdf

Dellinger v. Bessent (SCOTUS petition)

***REPLACE S3 LINK WHEN SCOTUS LINK IS AVAILABLE***

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25536866/bessent-v-dellinger-vacatur-app-final.pdf

Seila Law v. CFPB (2020)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19-7_n6io.pdf

AIDS VACCINE ADVOCACY COALITION v. UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69627654/aids-vaccine-advocacy-coalition-v-united-states-department-of-state/

Talbott v. Trump

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69583866/talbott-v-trump/

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We follow up on the Thursday Night Massacre, as Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove finally got someone to file the paperwork to dismiss the case against New York Mayor Eric Adams. And we do a deep dive into Dellinger v. Bessent, as the Trump administration asks the Supreme Court to remind everyone that the laws don't actually apply to Donald Trump. All of that and DOCKET ALERTS!

Links:

Courts Stand Up For Trans Rights and the Rule of Law

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/courts-stand-up-for-trans-rights

Bove Feb. 10 letter to Sassoon (SDNY) ordering dropping of Adams prosecution

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/76308bc134b67d36/4cc46c59-full.pdf

Hagen Scotten resignation letter

https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents/0b16892a-b4a3-4511-9eab-44ff6f69a97f.pdf?itid=lk_inline_manual_4

US v. Adams docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.628916/

Nick Akerman amicus

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.628916/gov.uscourts.nysd.628916.124.0.pdf

Henry Cuellar criminal docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68499933/united-states-v-cuellar/

Dellinger v. Bessent district court docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277297/

Dellinger v. Bessent (DC Circuit docket)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cadc.41741/gov.uscourts.cadc.41741.01208711227.0.pdf

Dellinger v. Bessent (SCOTUS petition)

***REPLACE S3 LINK WHEN SCOTUS LINK IS AVAILABLE***

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25536866/bessent-v-dellinger-vacatur-app-final.pdf

Seila Law v. CFPB (2020)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19-7_n6io.pdf

AIDS VACCINE ADVOCACY COALITION v. UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69627654/aids-vaccine-advocacy-coalition-v-united-states-department-of-state/

Talbott v. Trump

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69583866/talbott-v-trump/

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Ep 107 — Thursday Night Massacre

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Trump's personal lawyers are turning the DOJ into a protection racket, dropping bribery charges against NYC Mayor Eric Adams after he agreed to violate the City's immigration laws. But they can't find any lawyer in the Justice Department to implement their corrupt decree. At least seven prosecutors have been fired or quit. But will anyone in America notice?

Links:

Sassoon resignation letter

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/24535586a908999e/3801d435-full.pdf

Bove response letter to Sassoon

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/7c71f04757006735/05b1f604-full.pdf

Dellinger v. Bessent docket (Office of Special Counsel)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277297/

US v. Eric Adams [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69197933/united-states-v-adams/

Bove Letter Ordering Adams Dismissal [via NYT]

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/76308bc134b67d36/4cc46c59-full.pdf

After Meeting With Trump's Border Czar, Adams Opens Rikers to ICE Agents

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/13/nyregion/adams-ice-rikers-homan.html

How the Justice Dept. Helped Sink Its Own Case Against Eric Adams

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/13/nyregion/adams-lawyers-justice-department-dismissal.html

Grand Vizier Musk Is A Problem For The Justice Department

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/grand-vizier-musk-is-a-problem-for

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Trump's personal lawyers are turning the DOJ into a protection racket, dropping bribery charges against NYC Mayor Eric Adams after he agreed to violate the City's immigration laws. But they can't find any lawyer in the Justice Department to implement their corrupt decree. At least seven prosecutors have been fired or quit. But will anyone in America notice?

Links:

Sassoon resignation letter

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/24535586a908999e/3801d435-full.pdf

Bove response letter to Sassoon

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/7c71f04757006735/05b1f604-full.pdf

Dellinger v. Bessent docket (Office of Special Counsel)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277297/

US v. Eric Adams [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69197933/united-states-v-adams/

Bove Letter Ordering Adams Dismissal [via NYT]

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/76308bc134b67d36/4cc46c59-full.pdf

After Meeting With Trump's Border Czar, Adams Opens Rikers to ICE Agents

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/13/nyregion/adams-ice-rikers-homan.html

How the Justice Dept. Helped Sink Its Own Case Against Eric Adams

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/13/nyregion/adams-lawyers-justice-department-dismissal.html

Grand Vizier Musk Is A Problem For The Justice Department

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/grand-vizier-musk-is-a-problem-for

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Published 2025-02-11

Ep 106 — The Musk Parasite Multiplies

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Donald Trump got bored during the Super Bowl, and now apparently pennies are illegal. Also, as everything Trump torches the entire executive branch, trial judges aim their garden hoses at the flames to save what they can. Today we'll talk about as many cases as we can cram into an hour. Come for the DOGE take over of Treasury, stay for the Project 2025 shutdown of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

Links:

ABA STATEMENT on the Rule of Law

https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2025/02/aba-supports-the-rule-of-law/

When You've Lost Clarence Thomas

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/when-youve-lost-clarence-thomas

New York v. Trump (state Treasury challenge) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69623558/state-of-new-york-v-donald-j-trump/

CNN: Trump stopping penny production

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-doge-usaid-news-02-09-25#cm6yd9c61001m3b6no8ip8cc3

Coinage clause annotated

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C5-1/ALDE_00001066/

Coinage Act of 1792

https://www.usmint.gov/learn/history/historical-documents/coinage-act-of-april-2-1792

31 U.S.C. § 5112

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5112

12 U.S.C. § 5481 et seq. (creating CFPB)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/chapter-53/subchapter-V

Sen. Warren Initial Report on the CFPB

https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/2011/07/Report_BuildingTheCfpb1.pdf

Seila Law, LLC v. CFPB

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14557349188638541514

NTEU V. VOUGHT I docket (CFPB data)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277286/

NTEU V. VOUGHT II docket (CFPB dismantling)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277287/

CFPB v. CFSA

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-448_o7jp.pdf

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Donald Trump got bored during the Super Bowl, and now apparently pennies are illegal. Also, as everything Trump torches the entire executive branch, trial judges aim their garden hoses at the flames to save what they can. Today we'll talk about as many cases as we can cram into an hour. Come for the DOGE take over of Treasury, stay for the Project 2025 shutdown of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

Links:

ABA STATEMENT on the Rule of Law

https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2025/02/aba-supports-the-rule-of-law/

When You've Lost Clarence Thomas

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/when-youve-lost-clarence-thomas

New York v. Trump (state Treasury challenge) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69623558/state-of-new-york-v-donald-j-trump/

CNN: Trump stopping penny production

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-doge-usaid-news-02-09-25#cm6yd9c61001m3b6no8ip8cc3

Coinage clause annotated

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C5-1/ALDE_00001066/

Coinage Act of 1792

https://www.usmint.gov/learn/history/historical-documents/coinage-act-of-april-2-1792

31 U.S.C. § 5112

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5112

12 U.S.C. § 5481 et seq. (creating CFPB)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/chapter-53/subchapter-V

Sen. Warren Initial Report on the CFPB

https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/2011/07/Report_BuildingTheCfpb1.pdf

Seila Law, LLC v. CFPB

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14557349188638541514

NTEU V. VOUGHT I docket (CFPB data)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277286/

NTEU V. VOUGHT II docket (CFPB dismantling)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277287/

CFPB v. CFSA

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-448_o7jp.pdf

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Donald Trump's blitzkrieg of executive orders is running into a million lawsuits. And Elon Musk's inability to keep his mouth shut isn't helping. We'll discuss the avalanche of lawsuits by labor unions, non-profits, FBI agents, and anonymous federal employees, along with the judiciary's response.

Links:

44 USC § 3501 Note

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/44/3501

Musk associates sought to use critical Treasury payment system to shut down USAID spending, emails show

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/06/politics/elon-musk-treasury-department-payment-system/index.html

US v. Illinois docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69616357/united-states-v-state-of-illinois/

FBI Agents Association v. DOJ

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69609596/federal-bureau-of-investigation-agents-association-v-department-of-justice/

AFL-CIO v. Department of Labor docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69613359/afl-cio-v-department-of-labor/

Nat'l Council of Nonprofits v. OMB ("Nonprofits Case") docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69583571/national-council-of-nonprofits-v-office-of-management-and-budget/

ALLIANCE FOR RETIRED AMERICANS v. BESSENT (challenge to Treasury/BFS)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69607077/alliance-for-retired-americans-v-bessent/

Doe v. OPM docket (challenge to Musk server spoofing OPM email)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69582338/doe-v-office-of-personnel-management

New Hampshire Indonesian Community Support v. Trump (challenge to birthright EO)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69560542/new-hampshire-indonesian-community-support-v-trump/

The Three-Headed Chimera of Trumpian Destruction [Gift Link]

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-three-headed-chimera-of-trumpian-destruction/sharetoken/09cb444c-9355-4852-be93-f505cbbd1418

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Donald Trump's blitzkrieg of executive orders is running into a million lawsuits. And Elon Musk's inability to keep his mouth shut isn't helping. We'll discuss the avalanche of lawsuits by labor unions, non-profits, FBI agents, and anonymous federal employees, along with the judiciary's response.

Links:

44 USC § 3501 Note

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/44/3501

Musk associates sought to use critical Treasury payment system to shut down USAID spending, emails show

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/06/politics/elon-musk-treasury-department-payment-system/index.html

US v. Illinois docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69616357/united-states-v-state-of-illinois/

FBI Agents Association v. DOJ

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69609596/federal-bureau-of-investigation-agents-association-v-department-of-justice/

AFL-CIO v. Department of Labor docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69613359/afl-cio-v-department-of-labor/

Nat'l Council of Nonprofits v. OMB ("Nonprofits Case") docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69583571/national-council-of-nonprofits-v-office-of-management-and-budget/

ALLIANCE FOR RETIRED AMERICANS v. BESSENT (challenge to Treasury/BFS)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69607077/alliance-for-retired-americans-v-bessent/

Doe v. OPM docket (challenge to Musk server spoofing OPM email)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69582338/doe-v-office-of-personnel-management

New Hampshire Indonesian Community Support v. Trump (challenge to birthright EO)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69560542/new-hampshire-indonesian-community-support-v-trump/

The Three-Headed Chimera of Trumpian Destruction [Gift Link]

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-three-headed-chimera-of-trumpian-destruction/sharetoken/09cb444c-9355-4852-be93-f505cbbd1418

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Elon Musk has invaded Washington. He has set loose a pack of feral teenage code monkeys with a god complex inside every federal agency, promising to do for Washington what he did for Twitter. What could possibly go wrong? Oh, and Musk also has a plan to "rightsize" the government by waving unenforceable contracts at federal employees to induce them into resigning. There's a Fork in the Road all right, but this one is perhaps best not taken.

Links:

Nat'l Counsel of Nonprofits v. OMB ("Nonprofits Case") docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69583571/national-council-of-nonprofits-v-office-of-management-and-budget/

Elon Musk Wants to Get Operational Control of the Treasury's Payment System. This Could Not Possibly Be More Dangerous by

https://www.crisesnotes.com/elon-musk-wants-to-get-operational-control-of-the-treasurys-payment-system-this-could-not-possibly-be-more-dangerous/

Office of Personnel Management "Fork in the Road"

https://www.opm.gov/fork

OPM Guidance on Schedule Policy/Career (formerly Schedule F)

https://chcoc.gov/sites/default/files/OPM%20Memorandum%20re%20Schedule%20Policy%20Career%20Guidance%2001-27-25%20FINAL.pdf

American Federation of Gov't Employees v. Trump docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69588089/american-federation-of-government-employees-afl-cio-v-trump/

VSIP 5 U.S.C. § 3521 et seq.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/part-III/subpart-B/chapter-35/subchapter-II

Truman EO 9830

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-9830-amending-the-civil-service-rules-and-providing-for-federal-personnel

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Elon Musk has invaded Washington. He has set loose a pack of feral teenage code monkeys with a god complex inside every federal agency, promising to do for Washington what he did for Twitter. What could possibly go wrong? Oh, and Musk also has a plan to "rightsize" the government by waving unenforceable contracts at federal employees to induce them into resigning. There's a Fork in the Road all right, but this one is perhaps best not taken.

Links:

Nat'l Counsel of Nonprofits v. OMB ("Nonprofits Case") docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69583571/national-council-of-nonprofits-v-office-of-management-and-budget/

Elon Musk Wants to Get Operational Control of the Treasury's Payment System. This Could Not Possibly Be More Dangerous by

https://www.crisesnotes.com/elon-musk-wants-to-get-operational-control-of-the-treasurys-payment-system-this-could-not-possibly-be-more-dangerous/

Office of Personnel Management "Fork in the Road"

https://www.opm.gov/fork

OPM Guidance on Schedule Policy/Career (formerly Schedule F)

https://chcoc.gov/sites/default/files/OPM%20Memorandum%20re%20Schedule%20Policy%20Career%20Guidance%2001-27-25%20FINAL.pdf

American Federation of Gov't Employees v. Trump docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69588089/american-federation-of-government-employees-afl-cio-v-trump/

VSIP 5 U.S.C. § 3521 et seq.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/part-III/subpart-B/chapter-35/subchapter-II

Truman EO 9830

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-9830-amending-the-civil-service-rules-and-providing-for-federal-personnel

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Trump issued dozens of imperial edicts — oh, sorry, executive orders. Many of them are wildly illegal, mostly are deeply cruel, and all are being challenged in court. We'll discuss the pending injunctions on his birthright citizenship order and the "pause" on government spending so that he can redline the federal budget and delete all the "woke."

Links:

Trump v. Meta docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/61568745/trump-v-meta-platforms-inc/

American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-CIO v. Trump docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69588089/american-federation-of-government-employees-afl-cio-v-trump/

OMB M-25-13

https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents/deb7af80-48b6-4b8a-8bfa-3d84fd7c3ec8.pdf?itid=lk_inline_manual_2

OMB CLARIFICATION MEMO

https://ngma.memberclicks.net/assets/docs/White%20House%20OMB%20Clarification%20Memo.pdf

Nat'l Counsel of Nonprofits v. OMB ("Nonprofits Case") docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69583571/national-council-of-nonprofits-v-office-of-management-and-budget/

State of New York v. Trump ("States Case") docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69585994/state-of-new-york-v-trump/

OPM Guidance on Schedule F

https://www.chcoc.gov/content/guidance-implementing-president-trump%E2%80%99s-executive-order-titled-restoring-accountability

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Trump issued dozens of imperial edicts — oh, sorry, executive orders. Many of them are wildly illegal, mostly are deeply cruel, and all are being challenged in court. We'll discuss the pending injunctions on his birthright citizenship order and the "pause" on government spending so that he can redline the federal budget and delete all the "woke."

Links:

Trump v. Meta docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/61568745/trump-v-meta-platforms-inc/

American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-CIO v. Trump docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69588089/american-federation-of-government-employees-afl-cio-v-trump/

OMB M-25-13

https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents/deb7af80-48b6-4b8a-8bfa-3d84fd7c3ec8.pdf?itid=lk_inline_manual_2

OMB CLARIFICATION MEMO

https://ngma.memberclicks.net/assets/docs/White%20House%20OMB%20Clarification%20Memo.pdf

Nat'l Counsel of Nonprofits v. OMB ("Nonprofits Case") docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69583571/national-council-of-nonprofits-v-office-of-management-and-budget/

State of New York v. Trump ("States Case") docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69585994/state-of-new-york-v-trump/

OPM Guidance on Schedule F

https://www.chcoc.gov/content/guidance-implementing-president-trump%E2%80%99s-executive-order-titled-restoring-accountability

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Everyone knows that Congress has the power of the purse. What this administration presupposes is … maybe they don't??? We'll talk about Trump's decision to steal budgeting power from Congress in violation of both the Constitution and the Impoundment Control Act with Office of Management and Budget Alum Bobby Kogan.

Links:

Bobby Kogan

https://www.americanprogress.org/people/bobby-kogan/

Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends v. Department of Homeland Security

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69580474/philadelphia-yearly-meeting-of-the-religious-society-of-friends-v/

Trump Energy impoundment EO

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/unleashing-american-energy/

Trump EO pausing foreign aid for 90 days: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/reevaluating-and-realigning-united-states-foreign-aid/

Trump OMB "Clarification"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/01/omb-memo-m-25-11/

Kendall v. US ex Rel. Stokes, 37 U.S. 524 (1838) https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/37/524/

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Everyone knows that Congress has the power of the purse. What this administration presupposes is … maybe they don't??? We'll talk about Trump's decision to steal budgeting power from Congress in violation of both the Constitution and the Impoundment Control Act with Office of Management and Budget Alum Bobby Kogan.

Links:

Bobby Kogan

https://www.americanprogress.org/people/bobby-kogan/

Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends v. Department of Homeland Security

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69580474/philadelphia-yearly-meeting-of-the-religious-society-of-friends-v/

Trump Energy impoundment EO

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/unleashing-american-energy/

Trump EO pausing foreign aid for 90 days: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/reevaluating-and-realigning-united-states-foreign-aid/

Trump OMB "Clarification"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/01/omb-memo-m-25-11/

Kendall v. US ex Rel. Stokes, 37 U.S. 524 (1838) https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/37/524/

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We're breaking down two of the vilest executive orders Trump signed on his first day in office. First up, he's attacking trans people every way he can, and the crueler, the better. How does this interact with the Supreme Court's holding in Bostock? And Trump ignored 125 years of precedent to declare birthright citizenship illegal. One federal judge has already said NFW. Subscribers get a discussion of the latest Alex Jones bankruptcy negotiations.

Links:

Skrmetti: It was THAT Bad

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/skrmetti-it-was-that-bad?utm_source=publication-search

Trump EO - DEFENDING WOMEN FROM GENDER IDEOLOGY EXTREMISM AND RESTORING BIOLOGICAL TRUTH TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/

Foley & Lardner instructions to clients re: Trump's EOs

https://www.foley.com/insights/publications/2025/01/president-trumps-rescission-executive-order/

Trump EO on birthright citizenship

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/

Coughenour TRO

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wawd.343943/gov.uscourts.wawd.343943.43.0_1.pdf

Baldoni/Lively docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635145

Alex Jones docket (for Patreon bonus)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones/

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We're breaking down two of the vilest executive orders Trump signed on his first day in office. First up, he's attacking trans people every way he can, and the crueler, the better. How does this interact with the Supreme Court's holding in Bostock? And Trump ignored 125 years of precedent to declare birthright citizenship illegal. One federal judge has already said NFW. Subscribers get a discussion of the latest Alex Jones bankruptcy negotiations.

Links:

Skrmetti: It was THAT Bad

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/skrmetti-it-was-that-bad?utm_source=publication-search

Trump EO - DEFENDING WOMEN FROM GENDER IDEOLOGY EXTREMISM AND RESTORING BIOLOGICAL TRUTH TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/

Foley & Lardner instructions to clients re: Trump's EOs

https://www.foley.com/insights/publications/2025/01/president-trumps-rescission-executive-order/

Trump EO on birthright citizenship

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/

Coughenour TRO

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wawd.343943/gov.uscourts.wawd.343943.43.0_1.pdf

Baldoni/Lively docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635145

Alex Jones docket (for Patreon bonus)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones/

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Trump has vowed to deport millions of undocumented immigrants and close the border. Today's guest, Dan Kowalski, practiced immigration law for 38 years and writes extensively on the subject. We'll break down what to expect and how to fight back.

Links:

Involuntary Departure, by Dan Kowalski

https://dankowalski.substack.com/

American Council on Education: Immigration-Related Campus Concerns

https://www.acenet.edu/Documents/Issue-Brief-Immigration-Related-Campus-Concerns-2025.pdf

Against the Wall

https://heliotropebooks.com/books/against-the-wall-my-journey-from-border-patrol-agent-to-immigration-rights-activist/

NYT Debate on Birthright Citizenship

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/08/24/should-birthright-citizenship-be-abolished/eliminating-birthright-citizenship-would-be-a-bureacratic-and-costly-change-of-law

Is Birthright Citizenship Good for America

https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/cato-journal/2012/1/cj32n1-10.pdf

Myths and Facts about Birthright Citizenship

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/sites/default/files/research/Birthright%20Citizenship%20091509.pdf

IPTP Will Track Trump 2.0

https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/insights/legal/immigration/b/outsidenews/posts/iptp-will-track-trump-2-0

Justice Action Center: Tracking Extremist Challenges to Immigrant Inclusive Policies

https://litigationtracker.justiceactioncenter.org/

Us and Them: The Science of Identity

https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/U/bo5812106.html

Understanding INA Section 212(f): The President's Authority to Suspend the Entry of Migrants

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/understanding-ina-section-212f-president-authority-suspend-entry-migrants

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Trump has vowed to deport millions of undocumented immigrants and close the border. Today's guest, Dan Kowalski, practiced immigration law for 38 years and writes extensively on the subject. We'll break down what to expect and how to fight back.

Links:

Involuntary Departure, by Dan Kowalski

https://dankowalski.substack.com/

American Council on Education: Immigration-Related Campus Concerns

https://www.acenet.edu/Documents/Issue-Brief-Immigration-Related-Campus-Concerns-2025.pdf

Against the Wall

https://heliotropebooks.com/books/against-the-wall-my-journey-from-border-patrol-agent-to-immigration-rights-activist/

NYT Debate on Birthright Citizenship

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/08/24/should-birthright-citizenship-be-abolished/eliminating-birthright-citizenship-would-be-a-bureacratic-and-costly-change-of-law

Is Birthright Citizenship Good for America

https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/cato-journal/2012/1/cj32n1-10.pdf

Myths and Facts about Birthright Citizenship

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/sites/default/files/research/Birthright%20Citizenship%20091509.pdf

IPTP Will Track Trump 2.0

https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/insights/legal/immigration/b/outsidenews/posts/iptp-will-track-trump-2-0

Justice Action Center: Tracking Extremist Challenges to Immigrant Inclusive Policies

https://litigationtracker.justiceactioncenter.org/

Us and Them: The Science of Identity

https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/U/bo5812106.html

Understanding INA Section 212(f): The President's Authority to Suspend the Entry of Migrants

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/understanding-ina-section-212f-president-authority-suspend-entry-migrants

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As we prepare for the disaster, we break down Volume One of the Special Counsel Report, and discuss the brazen hackery behind Judge Cannon's effort to bury Volume Two. And Rudy settles with Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss. Is that good or bad news?

Links:

SMITH FINAL REPORT Vol. 1

https://www.justice.gov/storage/Report-of-Special-Counsel-Smith-Volume-1-January-2025.pdf

Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton [SCOTUS Docket]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/23-1122.html

TikTok C.E.O. Plans to Attend Trump Inauguration

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/15/us/politics/tiktok-ceo-trump-inauguration.html

US v Trump (SDFL) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490070/united-states-v-trump/

Freeman v. Giuliani (SDNY) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69116157/freeman-v-giuliani/

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Links:

SMITH FINAL REPORT Vol. 1

https://www.justice.gov/storage/Report-of-Special-Counsel-Smith-Volume-1-January-2025.pdf

Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton [SCOTUS Docket]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/23-1122.html

TikTok C.E.O. Plans to Attend Trump Inauguration

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/15/us/politics/tiktok-ceo-trump-inauguration.html

US v Trump (SDFL) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490070/united-states-v-trump/

Freeman v. Giuliani (SDNY) docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69116157/freeman-v-giuliani/

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Judge Aileen Cannon is popping off, the Alex Jones bankruptcy continues to be crazy, and judges in Arkansas are going to war with each other. Plus, as always, we'll check in with our pal Rudy.

Links:

Alex Jones - TX Plaintiffs settlement

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750.1011.0.pdf

McKesson v. Arkansas complaint

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3671323-McKesson-Complaint/

Baker Jan. 1 appointment orders

https://arkansasadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Appointment-Orders.pdf

Arkansas Administrative Order 24

https://opinions.arcourts.gov/ark/supremecourt/en/item/523224/index.do

Arkansas Supreme Court per curiam opinion 1/6/25

https://opinions.arcourts.gov/ark/supremecourt/en/item/523226/index.do

"Order of Chief Justice," 2025 Ark. 4

https://opinions.arcourts.gov/ark/supremecourt/en/item/523231/index.do

Trump emergency motion to block release of Smith Report

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.700.0_1.pdf

Giuliani NY docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.627518/

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Judge Aileen Cannon is popping off, the Alex Jones bankruptcy continues to be crazy, and judges in Arkansas are going to war with each other. Plus, as always, we'll check in with our pal Rudy.

Links:

Alex Jones - TX Plaintiffs settlement

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750.1011.0.pdf

McKesson v. Arkansas complaint

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3671323-McKesson-Complaint/

Baker Jan. 1 appointment orders

https://arkansasadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Appointment-Orders.pdf

Arkansas Administrative Order 24

https://opinions.arcourts.gov/ark/supremecourt/en/item/523224/index.do

Arkansas Supreme Court per curiam opinion 1/6/25

https://opinions.arcourts.gov/ark/supremecourt/en/item/523226/index.do

"Order of Chief Justice," 2025 Ark. 4

https://opinions.arcourts.gov/ark/supremecourt/en/item/523231/index.do

Trump emergency motion to block release of Smith Report

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.700.0_1.pdf

Giuliani NY docket

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.627518/

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Trump narrowly loses his bid at SCOTUS to stave off his sentencing in New York. And the 11th Circuit denies his bid to bury the Special Counsel report. But the case is now back in front of Judge Aileen Cannon, so opportunities for f*ckery abound!

Links:

Judge Cannon Manages To Out-Crazy Judge Kacsmaryk

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/judge-cannon-manages-to-out-crazy

SCOTUS Trump Docket

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a666.html

US v. Trump, Cannon Docket via Court Listener

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490069/united-states-v-trump

US v. Nauta, 11th Circuit Docket via Court Listener

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca11.87822

SCOTUS TikTok Docket

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24-656.html

Salaam v. Trump Docket via Court Listener

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69279738/salaam-v-trump/

Griffin v. NC Board of Elections Docket via Democracy Docket

https://www.democracydocket.com/cases/north-carolina-supreme-court-2024-election-protests-rejection-challenge/

Filthy Kentucky Title IX Order

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.kyed.104801/gov.uscourts.kyed.104801.143.0_1.pdf

Freeman v. Giulani, DC Docket via Court Listener

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68097449/freeman-v-giuliani

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Trump narrowly loses his bid at SCOTUS to stave off his sentencing in New York. And the 11th Circuit denies his bid to bury the Special Counsel report. But the case is now back in front of Judge Aileen Cannon, so opportunities for f*ckery abound!

Links:

Judge Cannon Manages To Out-Crazy Judge Kacsmaryk

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/judge-cannon-manages-to-out-crazy

SCOTUS Trump Docket

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a666.html

US v. Trump, Cannon Docket via Court Listener

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490069/united-states-v-trump

US v. Nauta, 11th Circuit Docket via Court Listener

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca11.87822

SCOTUS TikTok Docket

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24-656.html

Salaam v. Trump Docket via Court Listener

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69279738/salaam-v-trump/

Griffin v. NC Board of Elections Docket via Democracy Docket

https://www.democracydocket.com/cases/north-carolina-supreme-court-2024-election-protests-rejection-challenge/

Filthy Kentucky Title IX Order

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.kyed.104801/gov.uscourts.kyed.104801.143.0_1.pdf

Freeman v. Giulani, DC Docket via Court Listener

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68097449/freeman-v-giuliani

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Trump is losing his mind at the prospect of being sentenced Friday for his 34 felony business accounts. Now he's demanding that the case be stayed based on president-elect immunity, something his lawyers Todd Blanche and Emil Bove made up yesterday. And, as always, Rudy Giuliani is wilding out in court.

Links:

Please Keep Shit Talking Judges

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/please-keep-shit-talking-judges

2024 Year End Report on the Federal Judiciary

https://www.supremecourt.gov/publicinfo/year-end/2024year-endreport.pdf

US v. Boeing docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/29089563/united-states-v-the-boeing-company/

Rudy demands courtroom sketch artist draw him "nice"

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/judge-weigh-holding-giuliani-contempt-georgia-election-workers-case-2025-01-03/

Alex Jones - Trustee Motion for Approve PQPR settlement

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750.1005.0.pdf

Roberts EOY 2024 Report

https://www.supremecourt.gov/publicinfo/year-end/2024year-endreport.pdf

Trump NY Docs via Law360

https://www.law360.com/newyork-vs-trump-tracker

New York Article 78

https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/cvp/article-78/7803/

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Trump is losing his mind at the prospect of being sentenced Friday for his 34 felony business accounts. Now he's demanding that the case be stayed based on president-elect immunity, something his lawyers Todd Blanche and Emil Bove made up yesterday. And, as always, Rudy Giuliani is wilding out in court.

Links:

Please Keep Shit Talking Judges

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/please-keep-shit-talking-judges

2024 Year End Report on the Federal Judiciary

https://www.supremecourt.gov/publicinfo/year-end/2024year-endreport.pdf

US v. Boeing docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/29089563/united-states-v-the-boeing-company/

Rudy demands courtroom sketch artist draw him "nice"

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/judge-weigh-holding-giuliani-contempt-georgia-election-workers-case-2025-01-03/

Alex Jones - Trustee Motion for Approve PQPR settlement

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750.1005.0.pdf

Roberts EOY 2024 Report

https://www.supremecourt.gov/publicinfo/year-end/2024year-endreport.pdf

Trump NY Docs via Law360

https://www.law360.com/newyork-vs-trump-tracker

New York Article 78

https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/cvp/article-78/7803/

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Blake Lively is suing Justin Baldoni. Justin Baldoni is suing the New York Times. The New York Times is suing … nobody. Yet. We'll untangle this f-tussle, and for subscribers, we'll break down Rudy Giuliani's wild ride to contempt of court.

Links:

Paxton NCAA Trollsuit

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/press/NCAA%20DTPA%20Petition%20Filed.pdf

Sixth Circuit Strikes Down Net Neutrality

https://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/25a0002p-06.pdf

Second Circuit Affirms E. Jean Carroll Verdict

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca2.60504/gov.uscourts.ca2.60504.176.1.pdf

Please Keep Shit-Talking Judges

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/please-keep-shit-talking-judges

Trump TikTok brief

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-656/336151/20241227163400981_2024-12-27%20-%20TikTok%20v.%20Garland%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20President%20Donald%20J.%20Trump.pdf

In re MCP No. 185 (Net Neutrality)

https://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/25a0002p-06.pdf

Lively NY Complaint

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1.0.pdf

Lively CA Complaint

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/1629cc34e562e325/4410b1d9-full.pdf

Baldoni CA complaint

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25473221-justin-baldoni/#document/p1

NYT Article

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/21/business/media/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us.html

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Blake Lively is suing Justin Baldoni. Justin Baldoni is suing the New York Times. The New York Times is suing … nobody. Yet. We'll untangle this f-tussle, and for subscribers, we'll break down Rudy Giuliani's wild ride to contempt of court.

Links:

Paxton NCAA Trollsuit

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/press/NCAA%20DTPA%20Petition%20Filed.pdf

Sixth Circuit Strikes Down Net Neutrality

https://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/25a0002p-06.pdf

Second Circuit Affirms E. Jean Carroll Verdict

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca2.60504/gov.uscourts.ca2.60504.176.1.pdf

Please Keep Shit-Talking Judges

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/please-keep-shit-talking-judges

Trump TikTok brief

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-656/336151/20241227163400981_2024-12-27%20-%20TikTok%20v.%20Garland%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20President%20Donald%20J.%20Trump.pdf

In re MCP No. 185 (Net Neutrality)

https://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/25a0002p-06.pdf

Lively NY Complaint

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1.0.pdf

Lively CA Complaint

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/1629cc34e562e325/4410b1d9-full.pdf

Baldoni CA complaint

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25473221-justin-baldoni/#document/p1

NYT Article

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/21/business/media/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us.html

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We lived through it once, and we'll do it again. Liz and Andrew talk with Wonkette Senior Editor Evan Hurst about the changing media landscape as we prepare for inauguration.

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The Moral High Ground

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We lived through it once, and we'll do it again. Liz and Andrew talk with Wonkette Senior Editor Evan Hurst about the changing media landscape as we prepare for inauguration.

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The Moral High Ground

https://evanhurst.substack.com/

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Rudy Giuliani's wilding out, RFK Jr wants to bring back polio, and the Georgia Court of appeals just set fire to the last remnants of the Trump election interference case.

Links:

Freeman v. Giuliani [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69015293/freeman-v-giuliani/?order_by=desc

GA Court of Appeals Willis Order

https://efast.gaappeals.us/download?filingId=cdec1774-027f-4de6-aaf5-fb6c9bb99270

Siri FDA Petition to revoke polio vaccine approval

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/e68bd8b142eb7bf0/914e0b90-full.pdf

FDA Response

https://www.regulations.gov/document/FDA-2022-P-1998-0008

21 CFR Subpart B

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/21/part-10/subpart-B

About Aaron Siri

https://www.sirillp.com/aaron-siri/

Carrier & Wander, Citizen Petitions: An Empirical Study, Cardozo Law Review (2012)

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm?abstractid=2074656

IPOL package insert

https://www.fda.gov/media/75695/download

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Rudy Giuliani's wilding out, RFK Jr wants to bring back polio, and the Georgia Court of appeals just set fire to the last remnants of the Trump election interference case.

Links:

Freeman v. Giuliani [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69015293/freeman-v-giuliani/?order_by=desc

GA Court of Appeals Willis Order

https://efast.gaappeals.us/download?filingId=cdec1774-027f-4de6-aaf5-fb6c9bb99270

Siri FDA Petition to revoke polio vaccine approval

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/e68bd8b142eb7bf0/914e0b90-full.pdf

FDA Response

https://www.regulations.gov/document/FDA-2022-P-1998-0008

21 CFR Subpart B

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/21/part-10/subpart-B

About Aaron Siri

https://www.sirillp.com/aaron-siri/

Carrier & Wander, Citizen Petitions: An Empirical Study, Cardozo Law Review (2012)

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm?abstractid=2074656

IPOL package insert

https://www.fda.gov/media/75695/download

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Republicans in Congress are suggesting that the FBI should LOCK HER UP Liz Cheney, and Donald Trump thinks that's a great idea. But can he do that? We'll discuss. Plus, a Georgia appeals court has disqualified Fulton County DA Fani Willis and her entire office from prosecuting Donald Trump, likely dooming the entire case. And for subscribers, we've got a fun tour of defamation trollsuits from one of our favorite Kraken lawyers.

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GA Court of Appeals Willis Order

https://efast.gaappeals.us/download?filingId=cdec1774-027f-4de6-aaf5-fb6c9bb99270

Loudermilk Report

https://cha.house.gov/_cache/files/6/d/6dae7b82-7683-4f56-a177-ba98695e600d/145DD5A70E967DEEC1F511764D3E6FA1.final-interim-report.pdf

Loudermilk Committee Report (October 15, 2024)

https://cha.house.gov/2024/10/new-texts-reveal-liz-cheney-communicated-with-cassidy-hutchinson-about-her-select-committee-testimony-without-hutchinson-s-attorney-s-knowledge-despite-cheney-knowing-it-was-unethical

GA Ct Appeals Decision Re Willis

https://efast.gaappeals.us/download?filingId=cdec1774-027f-4de6-aaf5-fb6c9bb99270

Robinson v. CNN Federal Docket via Court Listener

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nced.214292

Mike Flynn Florida Appeal Dismissed

https://2dca.flcourts.gov/content/download/2444599/opinion/Opinion_2024-0278.pdf

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Republicans in Congress are suggesting that the FBI should LOCK HER UP Liz Cheney, and Donald Trump thinks that's a great idea. But can he do that? We'll discuss. Plus, a Georgia appeals court has disqualified Fulton County DA Fani Willis and her entire office from prosecuting Donald Trump, likely dooming the entire case. And for subscribers, we've got a fun tour of defamation trollsuits from one of our favorite Kraken lawyers.

Links:

GA Court of Appeals Willis Order

https://efast.gaappeals.us/download?filingId=cdec1774-027f-4de6-aaf5-fb6c9bb99270

Loudermilk Report

https://cha.house.gov/_cache/files/6/d/6dae7b82-7683-4f56-a177-ba98695e600d/145DD5A70E967DEEC1F511764D3E6FA1.final-interim-report.pdf

Loudermilk Committee Report (October 15, 2024)

https://cha.house.gov/2024/10/new-texts-reveal-liz-cheney-communicated-with-cassidy-hutchinson-about-her-select-committee-testimony-without-hutchinson-s-attorney-s-knowledge-despite-cheney-knowing-it-was-unethical

GA Ct Appeals Decision Re Willis

https://efast.gaappeals.us/download?filingId=cdec1774-027f-4de6-aaf5-fb6c9bb99270

Robinson v. CNN Federal Docket via Court Listener

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nced.214292

Mike Flynn Florida Appeal Dismissed

https://2dca.flcourts.gov/content/download/2444599/opinion/Opinion_2024-0278.pdf

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Donald Trump has promised to cancel birthright citizenship on Day one. But can he do that? In a word, no. We have a deep dive on the very clear law of birthright citizenship in this country (and all the ways Trump will try and ignore it). We also break down yesterday's decision and order from New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan that presidential immunity does not retroactively invalidate Trump's 34 felony convictions in New York. Links: ABC Bends The Knee https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/abc-bends-the-knee Trump ruling denying immunity NY https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25459328/merchan-immunity-ruling.pdf Trump announcement re birthright citizenship https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/agenda47-day-one-executive-order-ending-citizenship-for-children-of-illegals-and-outlawing-birth-tourism U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3381955771263111765 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Donald Trump has promised to cancel birthright citizenship on Day one. But can he do that? In a word, no. We have a deep dive on the very clear law of birthright citizenship in this country (and all the ways Trump will try and ignore it). We also break down yesterday's decision and order from New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan that presidential immunity does not retroactively invalidate Trump's 34 felony convictions in New York. Links: ABC Bends The Knee https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/abc-bends-the-knee Trump ruling denying immunity NY https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25459328/merchan-immunity-ruling.pdf Trump announcement re birthright citizenship https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/agenda47-day-one-executive-order-ending-citizenship-for-children-of-illegals-and-outlawing-birth-tourism U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3381955771263111765 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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We talk with TechDirt's Cathy Gellis, who is going to walk us through the DC Circuit's opinion banning TikTok. And in the subscriber bonus, we'll bring you up to speed on Rudy Giuliani's continuing efforts to dodge justice in multiple courts.

Links:

TikTok v. Garland (DC Cir.)

https://media.cadc.uscourts.gov/opinions/docs/2024/12/24-1113-2088317.pdf

Petition for injunction staying order

https://sf16-va.tiktokcdn.com/obj/eden-va2/hkluhazhjeh7jr/2024.12.09%20-%20TTI%20v.%20Garland%20-%20Petitioners'%20Emergency%20Motion%20for%20Injunction(1).pdf

Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act (PAFACA)

15 U.S. Code § 9901

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/9901

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We talk with TechDirt's Cathy Gellis, who is going to walk us through the DC Circuit's opinion banning TikTok. And in the subscriber bonus, we'll bring you up to speed on Rudy Giuliani's continuing efforts to dodge justice in multiple courts.

Links:

TikTok v. Garland (DC Cir.)

https://media.cadc.uscourts.gov/opinions/docs/2024/12/24-1113-2088317.pdf

Petition for injunction staying order

https://sf16-va.tiktokcdn.com/obj/eden-va2/hkluhazhjeh7jr/2024.12.09%20-%20TTI%20v.%20Garland%20-%20Petitioners'%20Emergency%20Motion%20for%20Injunction(1).pdf

Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act (PAFACA)

15 U.S. Code § 9901

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/9901

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Ep 89 — The Infowars Deal Falls Apart

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Last night US Bankruptcy Judge Christopher Lopez voided the sale of Infowars to The Onion as part of the Alex Jones Bankruptcy. It sucks a lot. And speaking of sucking, let's talk about the Impoundment Control Act and How Trump plans to violate it.

Links:

ALEX JONES BANKRUPTCY DOCKET

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones/

Revised Infowars proposed sale order (REDLINE)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750.975.1.pdf

Trump on impoundment

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/agenda47-using-impoundment-to-cut-waste-stop-inflation-and-crush-the-deep-state

Train v. City of New York

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/420/35/#42

House Dems Impoundment Explainer

https://democrats-budget.house.gov/resources/fact-sheetss/impoundment-explainer

GAO Report on Ukraine Impoundment Violation

https://www.gao.gov/products/b-331564

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Last night US Bankruptcy Judge Christopher Lopez voided the sale of Infowars to The Onion as part of the Alex Jones Bankruptcy. It sucks a lot. And speaking of sucking, let's talk about the Impoundment Control Act and How Trump plans to violate it.

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ALEX JONES BANKRUPTCY DOCKET

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones/

Revised Infowars proposed sale order (REDLINE)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750.975.1.pdf

Trump on impoundment

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/agenda47-using-impoundment-to-cut-waste-stop-inflation-and-crush-the-deep-state

Train v. City of New York

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/420/35/#42

House Dems Impoundment Explainer

https://democrats-budget.house.gov/resources/fact-sheetss/impoundment-explainer

GAO Report on Ukraine Impoundment Violation

https://www.gao.gov/products/b-331564

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Trump has nominated Brendan Carr to chair the FCC, calling him a "warrior for Free Speech" who "will end the regulatory onslaught that has been crippling America's Job Creators and Innovators, ​​and ensure that the FCC delivers for rural America." But as tech journalist Karl Bode explains, Carr has threatened to go after media outlets that criticize Trump, and his plans for rural broadband are even worse. And Liz and Andrew break down the issue "scrutiny" in Skrmetti, the SCOTUS case on healthcare for trans kids. Plus, we check in with Rudy Giuliani's shenanigans in the subscriber bonus.

Links:

Skrmetti: It Was THAT Bad

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/skrmetti-it-was-that-bad

Institute for Local Self Reliance

https://ilsr.org/

Karl Bode at Techdirt

https://www.techdirt.com/user/kbode/

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Trump has nominated Brendan Carr to chair the FCC, calling him a "warrior for Free Speech" who "will end the regulatory onslaught that has been crippling America's Job Creators and Innovators, ​​and ensure that the FCC delivers for rural America." But as tech journalist Karl Bode explains, Carr has threatened to go after media outlets that criticize Trump, and his plans for rural broadband are even worse. And Liz and Andrew break down the issue "scrutiny" in Skrmetti, the SCOTUS case on healthcare for trans kids. Plus, we check in with Rudy Giuliani's shenanigans in the subscriber bonus.

Links:

Skrmetti: It Was THAT Bad

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/skrmetti-it-was-that-bad

Institute for Local Self Reliance

https://ilsr.org/

Karl Bode at Techdirt

https://www.techdirt.com/user/kbode/

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It's a roundup of Hunter Biden, Rudy Giuliani, and Infowars news, before a preview of US v. Skrmetti, the challenge to Tennessee's ban on gender confirming care for minors, which will be argued at the Supreme Court on Wednesday. And for subscribers, we'll catch up with Dinesh D'Souza, who's getting sued by a man he falsely accused of being a "ballot mule."

Links:

Elon Musk's X is stepping into the legal fight over Alex Jones' Infowars. Experts say it's unprecedented

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/29/media/alex-jones-elon-musk-x-infowars-accounts/index.html

Freeman v. Giuliani Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69116157/freeman-v-giuliani/

Hunter Biden Delaware Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67511701/united-states-v-biden/

Hunter Biden California Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68072483/united-states-v-biden/

Inside the Collapse of Hunter Biden's Plea Deal

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/19/us/politics/inside-hunter-biden-plea-deal.html

Tennessee SB 1 - Tennessee Code, Title 68, Chapter 33

https://casetext.com/statute/tennessee-code/title-68-health-safety-and-environmental-protection/health/chapter-33-health-and-welfare-of-minors

Skrmetti reply brief (gender affirming care)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-477/331420/20241107183937931_23-477rbUnitedStates.pdf

Danyon Anderson et al., Gender Dysphoria and Its Non-Surgical and Surgical Treatments (2022)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9501960/

In re Vital Pharmaceutical (2023)

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-ban-crt-s-d-flo-for-lau-div/2289548.html

D'Souza Statement

https://dineshdsouza.com/statement-on-2000-mules/

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It's a roundup of Hunter Biden, Rudy Giuliani, and Infowars news, before a preview of US v. Skrmetti, the challenge to Tennessee's ban on gender confirming care for minors, which will be argued at the Supreme Court on Wednesday. And for subscribers, we'll catch up with Dinesh D'Souza, who's getting sued by a man he falsely accused of being a "ballot mule."

Links:

Elon Musk's X is stepping into the legal fight over Alex Jones' Infowars. Experts say it's unprecedented

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/29/media/alex-jones-elon-musk-x-infowars-accounts/index.html

Freeman v. Giuliani Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69116157/freeman-v-giuliani/

Hunter Biden Delaware Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67511701/united-states-v-biden/

Hunter Biden California Docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68072483/united-states-v-biden/

Inside the Collapse of Hunter Biden's Plea Deal

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/19/us/politics/inside-hunter-biden-plea-deal.html

Tennessee SB 1 - Tennessee Code, Title 68, Chapter 33

https://casetext.com/statute/tennessee-code/title-68-health-safety-and-environmental-protection/health/chapter-33-health-and-welfare-of-minors

Skrmetti reply brief (gender affirming care)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-477/331420/20241107183937931_23-477rbUnitedStates.pdf

Danyon Anderson et al., Gender Dysphoria and Its Non-Surgical and Surgical Treatments (2022)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9501960/

In re Vital Pharmaceutical (2023)

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-ban-crt-s-d-flo-for-lau-div/2289548.html

D'Souza Statement

https://dineshdsouza.com/statement-on-2000-mules/

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Today, we learned that Special Counsel Jack Smith has moved to dismiss both of the federal cases against Donald Trump; we tell you what that means and what happens next. On the plus side, we learned that the Onion is almost certainly going to get to buy Infowars AND the next Attorney General of the United States won't be Matt Gaetz. Although it probably will be Pam Bondi. Oh, and the Supreme Court just took up a case on a 100-year-old doctrine as to whether the government can help rural and underserved areas get phone and internet coverage.

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Pam Bondi: Less Terrible Than Matt Gaetz

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/pam-bondi-is-less-terrible-than-matt

No, Elon Musk Isn't Riding To Alex Jones's Rescue

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/no-elon-musk-isnt-riding-to-alex/comments

SCOTUS Order in FCC v. Consumers Research

https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/112224zr1_7l48.pdf

5th Circuit opinion in FCC v. Consumers Research

https://casetext.com/case/consumers-research-v-fed-commcns-commn-4

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Today, we learned that Special Counsel Jack Smith has moved to dismiss both of the federal cases against Donald Trump; we tell you what that means and what happens next. On the plus side, we learned that the Onion is almost certainly going to get to buy Infowars AND the next Attorney General of the United States won't be Matt Gaetz. Although it probably will be Pam Bondi. Oh, and the Supreme Court just took up a case on a 100-year-old doctrine as to whether the government can help rural and underserved areas get phone and internet coverage.

Links:

Pam Bondi: Less Terrible Than Matt Gaetz

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/pam-bondi-is-less-terrible-than-matt

No, Elon Musk Isn't Riding To Alex Jones's Rescue

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/no-elon-musk-isnt-riding-to-alex/comments

SCOTUS Order in FCC v. Consumers Research

https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/112224zr1_7l48.pdf

5th Circuit opinion in FCC v. Consumers Research

https://casetext.com/case/consumers-research-v-fed-commcns-commn-4

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Kel McClanahan joins us for part two of the interview, where he tells us how to keep tabs on Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy as they gear up to do for the federal government what Elon did for Twitter. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is not going to jail, Alex Jones continues to be a ghoul, and Rudy Giuliani has found another lawyer to help him humiliate himself in federal court.

Links:

Rudy Giuliani Can't Go On Trial, He Has An Inauguration To Attend!

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/rudy-giuliani-cant-go-on-trial-he

Roake v. Brumley 5th Circuit denial of stay

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca5.221848/gov.uscourts.ca5.221848.68.2.pdf

Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA), 5 U.S.C. Chapter 10 et seq.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/part-I/chapter-10

Kel McClanahan, President Trump's Cronyism and Excesses Should Prompt Security Clearance Reform

https://www.justsecurity.org/63108/president-trumps-cronyism-excesses-prompt-security-clearance-reform/

Kel McClanahan, The Case for Legislative Security Clearance Reform

https://www.justsecurity.org/60440/case-legislative-security-clearance-reform/

Kel McClanahan, What Everyone Gets Wrong About Kushner's Clearance Fiasco

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/01/jared-kushner-clearance-fiasco-217210/

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Kel McClanahan joins us for part two of the interview, where he tells us how to keep tabs on Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy as they gear up to do for the federal government what Elon did for Twitter. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is not going to jail, Alex Jones continues to be a ghoul, and Rudy Giuliani has found another lawyer to help him humiliate himself in federal court.

Links:

Rudy Giuliani Can't Go On Trial, He Has An Inauguration To Attend!

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/rudy-giuliani-cant-go-on-trial-he

Roake v. Brumley 5th Circuit denial of stay

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca5.221848/gov.uscourts.ca5.221848.68.2.pdf

Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA), 5 U.S.C. Chapter 10 et seq.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/part-I/chapter-10

Kel McClanahan, President Trump's Cronyism and Excesses Should Prompt Security Clearance Reform

https://www.justsecurity.org/63108/president-trumps-cronyism-excesses-prompt-security-clearance-reform/

Kel McClanahan, The Case for Legislative Security Clearance Reform

https://www.justsecurity.org/60440/case-legislative-security-clearance-reform/

Kel McClanahan, What Everyone Gets Wrong About Kushner's Clearance Fiasco

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/01/jared-kushner-clearance-fiasco-217210/

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Goblinlover Alex Jones is threatening to jail Ben Collins, CEO of the Onion for trying to buy InfoWars. Meanwhile, the bankruptcy trustee is threatening to seek sanctions against Alex Jones's lawyers for making frivolous arguments and telling half-truths. What's next for the efforts to find some measure of justice for the Sandy Hook families? Plus, Donald Trump seems poised to hand over the nation's national security secrets to a bunch of goons who couldn't get cleared for a job as a mall cop. Can he do that? We welcome back Kel McClanahan of National Security Counselors to answer all of our security clearance-related questions.

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Goblinlover Alex Jones is threatening to jail Ben Collins, CEO of the Onion for trying to buy InfoWars. Meanwhile, the bankruptcy trustee is threatening to seek sanctions against Alex Jones's lawyers for making frivolous arguments and telling half-truths. What's next for the efforts to find some measure of justice for the Sandy Hook families? Plus, Donald Trump seems poised to hand over the nation's national security secrets to a bunch of goons who couldn't get cleared for a job as a mall cop. Can he do that? We welcome back Kel McClanahan of National Security Counselors to answer all of our security clearance-related questions.

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Alex Jones Bankruptcy docket (SDTX)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750/

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The Onion is buying Infowars! Unless a bankruptcy judge puts the kibosh on the sale. And Rudy Giuliani's lawyers are pulling the ripcord in the Freeman/Moss case. Also … Attorney General Matt Gaetz? WTF?!?!

Links:

Onion Press Release

https://theonion.com/heres-why-i-decided-to-buy-infowars/

Alex Jones Bankruptcy docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones/

Giuliani - Caruso Declaration - lawyers withdrawing

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.626017/gov.uscourts.nysd.626017.110.0.pdf

New York Rules of Professional Conduct

https://nysba.org/app/uploads/2024/02/20240226-Rules-of-Professional-Conduct-as-amended-6.10.2022.pdf

Matt Gaetz ethics report

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/13/us/politics/matt-gaetz-ethics-committee-report.html

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The Onion is buying Infowars! Unless a bankruptcy judge puts the kibosh on the sale. And Rudy Giuliani's lawyers are pulling the ripcord in the Freeman/Moss case. Also … Attorney General Matt Gaetz? WTF?!?!

Links:

Onion Press Release

https://theonion.com/heres-why-i-decided-to-buy-infowars/

Alex Jones Bankruptcy docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones/

Giuliani - Caruso Declaration - lawyers withdrawing

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.626017/gov.uscourts.nysd.626017.110.0.pdf

New York Rules of Professional Conduct

https://nysba.org/app/uploads/2024/02/20240226-Rules-of-Professional-Conduct-as-amended-6.10.2022.pdf

Matt Gaetz ethics report

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/13/us/politics/matt-gaetz-ethics-committee-report.html

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A week after the election, Trump is already demanding that Congress bend the knee and allow him to staff his administration without bothering to get Senate confirmation. Can he do that? And will the new Senate majority leader let him?

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Musk's X seeks to steer lawsuits to conservative court in Texas

https://www.reuters.com/legal/musks-x-seeks-steer-lawsuits-conservative-court-texas-2024-10-17/

Federalist No. 67 (Hamilton)

https://teachingamericanhistory.org/document/federalist-no-67/

Noel Canning v. NLRB

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=67923386243166640

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A week after the election, Trump is already demanding that Congress bend the knee and allow him to staff his administration without bothering to get Senate confirmation. Can he do that? And will the new Senate majority leader let him?

Links:

Musk's X seeks to steer lawsuits to conservative court in Texas

https://www.reuters.com/legal/musks-x-seeks-steer-lawsuits-conservative-court-texas-2024-10-17/

Federalist No. 67 (Hamilton)

https://teachingamericanhistory.org/document/federalist-no-67/

Noel Canning v. NLRB

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=67923386243166640

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https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

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Published 2024-11-08

Ep 81 — What Now?

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Well, it happened. We talk about what the election of Donald Trump means for you, for the country, for this show, and for the efforts to hold Trump accountable for his crimes against the American people. Special Counsel Jack Smith has announced that he intends to "wrap up" his office; we tell you why and what that means. We'll be here with you, and we'll always tell you the truth.

Links:

NPR report: Smith To Wind Down

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/06/g-s1-33021/trump-trials-jack-smith-election-2024

28 CFR Part 600 (Special Counsel regulations)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/part-600

Trump v. US (2024)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/pdf/23-939.pdf

24 Op. OLC 222 (2000) - Presidential immunity

https://www.justice.gov/file/146241-0/dl?inline

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Well, it happened. We talk about what the election of Donald Trump means for you, for the country, for this show, and for the efforts to hold Trump accountable for his crimes against the American people. Special Counsel Jack Smith has announced that he intends to "wrap up" his office; we tell you why and what that means. We'll be here with you, and we'll always tell you the truth.

Links:

NPR report: Smith To Wind Down

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/06/g-s1-33021/trump-trials-jack-smith-election-2024

28 CFR Part 600 (Special Counsel regulations)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/part-600

Trump v. US (2024)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/pdf/23-939.pdf

24 Op. OLC 222 (2000) - Presidential immunity

https://www.justice.gov/file/146241-0/dl?inline

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Joe Dye is back to talk us through how to watch the election returns. How similar are Wisconsin and Iowa? When will we know the results out of Georgia? And what's up with that Selzer poll? Andrew and Joe break it all down.

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Joe Dye is back to talk us through how to watch the election returns. How similar are Wisconsin and Iowa? When will we know the results out of Georgia? And what's up with that Selzer poll? Andrew and Joe break it all down.

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