Episode 16 - Telepathy Tapes - Part 1

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<v Speaker>Welcome to Spirit Outspoken, where we dive deep into the realms of spirituality, healing, and the beautiful chaos we call life.

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<v Audio>Hello and welcome to season three of spirit outspoken.

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<v Audio>I can't believe it.

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<v Audio>I do.

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<v Audio>I cannot believe it.

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<v Audio>Season three.

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<v Audio>I know that sounds like legit.

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<v Audio>It does.

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<v Audio>Wow.

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<v Audio>And after a little bit of a break, we both took two weeks off at the holidays, which was great.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Like a heart.

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<v Audio>Well, I mean, time off.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>If you can count like wrangling kids is time off.

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<v Audio>But yeah, we took a hiatus from podcasting.

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<v Audio>Um, you know, cause we were trying to practice what we preach.

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<v Audio>We talked a lot about before the Christmas season started being present.

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<v Audio>Yep.

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<v Audio>And even though it's something like you and I both enjoy and we don't consider work, it still can, you know, distract us or keep us from our family or our kids.

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<v Audio>So yeah, I thought that was good.

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<v Audio>I did too.

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<v Audio>I felt really like I was able to be present and now I'm really ready to be back.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Although we were just saying as we were trying to set up all the equipment, everything, we definitely have been away a little rusty because we were a little rusty and it took a little bit more time than usual, but we're back at it.

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<v Audio>It's crazy you guys, it's, there's lights, there's cameras, there's mics, there's an audio mixer, a computer, it's just the blind leading the blind, but we're doing it.

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<v Audio>We're doing it.

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<v Audio>We do it.

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<v Audio>That's right.

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<v Audio>So if you know me personally, you know that I'm utterly obsessed with the telepathy tapes.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Anybody I know has heard me rant and rave about this absolutely fascinating podcast.

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<v Audio>I don't know when they released it, maybe a couple months ago.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>And you were the one who told me about it.

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<v Audio>And then I dove in headfirst and was like, Oh my gosh, this is wild.

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<v Audio>Wild.

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<v Audio>And it's quickly become the most listened to podcast series.

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<v Audio>Out there.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>I mean it's like chart topping, which is so cool because when you think about the title telepathy tapes, I mean that's, it's pretty out there, right?

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<v Audio>Pretty out there.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>And for that to be so mainstream and up there on the charts, it actually beat out Joe Rogan.

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<v Audio>Yeah, it did.

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<v Audio>Yeah, it did.

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<v Audio>Which is tough to do.

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<v Audio>It's tough to do.

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<v Audio>The reason why telepathy tapes is so cool for us to dive into is because of our theme of season three, which is all about unlocking our human potential.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And the telepathy tapes kind of inspired this because after listening to him, we're going to dive all into the nitty gritty, you guys.

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<v Audio>But after listening to this, Rach and I were so inspired.

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<v Audio>confused, excited, intrigued, mind blown that we were like, Oh my gosh, this seems like it's the tip of the iceberg.

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<v Audio>So it really did set the stage for our all of the episodes this season, but we're just so excited that we had to start with the telepathy.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>There's so much to dive into, and if you haven't listened yet, it's on Spotify or Apple, anywhere else that you get your podcast.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Anywhere else.

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<v Audio>Highly, highly recommend.

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<v Audio>It's amazing.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>After you listen to all of our episodes, go there next.

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<v Audio>Okay.

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<v Audio>So the telepathy tape.

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<v Audio>So Kai Dickens is a award winning director, storyteller, uh, Um, almost like a, I don't know if she does documentary films, but that's basically her style of work.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>She investigates and she reports and she tells really intriguing, awesome stories.

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<v Audio>The reason why this whole thing got started was Kai was listening to a podcast and she was listening to Dr.

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<v Audio>Diane Hennessey Powell, who is an MD neuroscientist psychiatrist who graduated from Johns Hopkins and also served on Harvard's medical school faculty.

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<v Audio>So like this woman's legit, you guys.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>It's not just some random woman who doesn't know her stuff.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>So how this all got started, is Kai Dickens was listening to a podcast and Dr.

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<v Audio>Powell was on there and talking about her work within the nonverbal autistic community.

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<v Audio>So I don't know if you guys are familiar or not.

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<v Audio>I wasn't completely, I think I conceptually sort of knew, but they have, Typing and, and like, that's how they learn how to communicate.

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<v Audio>Right.

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<v Audio>So it sort of starts as assisted, right.

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<v Audio>Typing, right.

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<v Audio>Where the, in the, again, these children have like significant physical disabilities where they will kind of hold the child's.

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<v Audio>Wrist and support them.

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<v Audio>So they learn their letters and they learn how to slowly communicate right so they can type out like I L O V E and so on right?

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<v Audio>Yes, and then as they gain confidence and physical ability Their fingers gradually go up their arm.

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<v Audio>They have less and less pressure on their arm so they can learn how to type independently.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>Okay.

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<v Audio>Which is huge.

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<v Audio>It's huge.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>So that's the process in which these kids are being trained how to communicate their basic needs and talk and communicate in some form or fashion to their parents and teachers and others.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Yep.

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<v Audio>So through this process, parents and teachers.

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<v Audio>Have discovered that these kids can read their minds.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And you guys, these, these stories are flooding in from all over the world.

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<v Audio>And we're going to get into how similar the stories are.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>It's absolutely fascinating when you consider people of all different walks of life, teachers, caregivers, family members, friends, all reporting this.

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<v Audio>Yes, and feeling like crazy people and almost afraid to say anything exactly, but having these same exact experiences across the board.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And for what it's worth, you guys, this research and this, like people claiming that this has been happening has been going on for decades.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>Decades.

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<v Audio>This isn't new.

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<v Audio>No.

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<v Audio>It's, it's been going on for decades.

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<v Audio>So the whole thing.

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<v Audio>premise behind the telepathy tapes is for Kai Dickens and Dr.

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<v Audio>Powell to partner together and to document the process and these studies and the experiences that have incredibly rigorous controls.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>To prove that this is happening.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>They start doing legitimate experiments, double blind, Covering up any type of surface in the room that has any type of reflection, putting a full blown, you know, double like a mindful.

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<v Audio>Yes, thank you.

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<v Audio>I was trying to remember that a blindfold.

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<v Audio>It's called a mind fold because you literally it's like blackness.

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<v Audio>You can't see.

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<v Audio>And I think it's also helpful to point out to they also had people on their team who were skeptics and I think that that was really interesting to as this process unfolds is to make sure that they weren't themselves being somehow, you know, influenced or seeing things to they made sure to incorporate people.

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<v Audio>So it could be truly objective as they were working through this.

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<v Audio>It's such a good point.

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<v Audio>And like Kai Dickens talks about her own skepticism, like she was definitely intrigued, but she had to personally fund this whole.

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<v Audio>Process.

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<v Audio>So at the beginning, she was like, is this worth my time?

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<v Audio>Is this legit?

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<v Audio>And she very quickly understood like, oh man, this, this is legit.

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<v Audio>And trust me, like, and Rach, if you listen to Dr.

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<v Audio>Powell, you understand that her only intent, which I think is very cool is to get these children who are.

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<v Audio>Nonverbal autistic children the education the respect and the help that they need.

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<v Audio>Yes, because as you insinuated They've sort of been dismissed as like, well, they're the only reach toddler capacity intelligence Don't bother trying.

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<v Audio>Yeah, all is lost and these parents who have experienced something very different And Dr.

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<v Audio>Powell, who has seen something very different, is taking a leap of faith, you know, to discover this.

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<v Audio>So let's talk a little bit about the experiments, so people kind of understand what we're talking about.

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<v Audio>Um, so in a couple of them, what they did was they leveraged random number generators.

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<v Audio>I thought those were fascinating.

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<v Audio>That was fascinating.

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<v Audio>Go into that.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>So like, the parents.

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<v Audio>Or the caretaker, it was most often the mother, and we'll talk about that, yep, would be holding an iPad.

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<v Audio>And this is like brand new iPad that was taken out of the box with a brand new application that was downloaded.

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<v Audio>Mom has never seen it, kids never seen it.

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<v Audio>And they generate a random number.

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<v Audio>And it was often like a three digit or four digit code.

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<v Audio>And the mother is looking at it, there's a partition, there's also a mind fold.

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<v Audio>So like, literally can't see anything.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>And without hesitation, the child will then type out what the mother is seeing.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And you guys, they're getting this to a hundred percent accuracy.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>Which is crazy too.

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<v Audio>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Audio>Some children have a hundred percent accuracy.

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<v Audio>And if you look at like the entire data set across the board, it's like 95%.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Like, that's insane.

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<v Audio>Mind blowing numbers.

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<v Audio>So, so like, yeah.

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<v Audio>We have to pay attention.

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<v Audio>In other situations, it wasn't just about numbers.

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<v Audio>It was also like, can they just see what the mother is seeing or are they reading the thoughts?

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<v Audio>Okay.

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<v Audio>So like, all right.

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<v Audio>They then did.

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<v Audio>Another thing with like popsicle sticks.

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<v Audio>So they had five different colored popsicle sticks, yellow, orange, whatever.

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<v Audio>And the, the mom had put out the popsicle sticks and in a certain order.

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<v Audio>And then again, behind the partition, then the child repeats.

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<v Audio>And can do exactly the same pattern and they replicate it over and over and over.

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<v Audio>In other instances, they are flipping to a picture and now it's like interpretation.

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<v Audio>It's not just like I'm thinking a thought or I'm reading something.

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<v Audio>It's like you're seeing it and then they have to interpret.

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<v Audio>And the videos are available online where you can actually go watch some of these experiments taking place too, which crazy, crazy stuff, crazy stuff.

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<v Audio>The last thing that I thought was really fascinating and one of the studies they said, like.

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<v Audio>Okay, do they have to be in the same room?

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<v Audio>And they're like, absolutely not.

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<v Audio>one teacher had reported that they ran errands and the thing that they wanted to get at the store, they couldn't get at the store, and then they had to go to a different store.

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<v Audio>It, like, happened the night before.

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<v Audio>And the child that this teacher was teaching in the school, Reported that teacher's entire evening the evening before.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>So it was like, obviously they were not together.

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<v Audio>And this is where the teacher was like, Oh my gosh, like, how do you know that?

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<v Audio>Right.

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<v Audio>And they, in these studies where they were replicating it, they would have the mom like be in a different floor or be in a different room.

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<v Audio>So it like, they don't have, there's no proximity, right?

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<v Audio>The proximity doesn't matter, which really challenges a lot of things, right?

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<v Audio>Right, of like, what this is, what could it be?

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<v Audio>How are they doing this?

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<v Audio>And then one thing that's been interesting is as they've been able to tap into the minds and the words, right, of these non speakers, is one thing that the non speakers have made, clear over and over again is that they have to feel comfortable and supported and believed in order for them to tap into this with other people.

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<v Audio>That people's energy really affects their abilities on whether or not they can perform this.

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<v Audio>Is it that nuts?

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And like, if we even like go back to our previous seasons of thinking about like the power of love, like that sort of unlocking this potential, this potential of what it could be, so for example, this one little girl, Mia said that she could not do it with her dad.

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<v Audio>She just knew like her dad was too blocked off.

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<v Audio>And so, um, She just knew like my, there's no way my dad is going to believe this.

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<v Audio>So she was able to connect with her mom.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Like in the study, like they did it with both parents where the mom sat down, she did it with a hundred percent accuracy.

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<v Audio>And when the dad tried to do it, she could not do it.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>She could not do it.

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<v Audio>And like there was sort of this trend throughout the season where it's female caretakers.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>Mothers.

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<v Audio>Teachers.

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<v Audio>That are reporting this.

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<v Audio>Yep.

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<v Audio>Right?

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<v Audio>Mm hmm.

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<v Audio>And why do you think that is?

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<v Audio>I think in general, women tend to be more open emotionally.

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<v Audio>Mm hmm.

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<v Audio>More of a nurturing, caretaking role.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>I think we always talk about mother's intuition.

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<v Audio>I think maybe we, just as females, are more tapped into that, potentially.

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<v Audio>I don't know.

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<v Audio>I think so, too.

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<v Audio>I mean, like, my, my theory before the teachers started speaking up, because, like, in the beginning, it was all about the moms, right?

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<v Audio>And Akil was one of the children that they were studying.

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<v Audio>And Akil's mom said that the floodgates really opened up when she said, I trust you.

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<v Audio>I'm assuming competence.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>I believe in you.

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<v Audio>Like, I'm going to go against every single thing that I've been told by professionals since the day that you were born or diagnosed.

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<v Audio>And I'm going to take a leap of faith here.

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<v Audio>And the floodgates opened.

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<v Audio>Right.

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<v Audio>So, so like that was really, you know, reiterating your whole thought about like belief and trust.

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<v Audio>So at that point, I was thinking like, Okay, there has to be some kind of like physical energetic connection between mother and child, right?

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<v Audio>And you just kind of hit on that in terms of like motherly intuition and this whole concept of like quantum entanglement.

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<v Audio>if you split a particle, and it doesn't matter if it's, you know, It's three universes away.

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<v Audio>If you affect the rotation of one, the other one also rotates.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>So, and this is like physics.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>You guys, this is not pseudoscience.

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<v Audio>This is physics.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Quantum physics.

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<v Audio>So you can look it up.

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<v Audio>So I was thinking like we share bloodstream.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>You know, their cells started from ourselves, from our father's cells, right?

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<v Audio>So anyway, so that was like sort of where I was thinking about this, but then it like went into like, that doesn't even matter.

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<v Audio>It's belief.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>It's trust, belief, and care.

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<v Audio>Doesn't even have to be a physical connection.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Which, if you break down even further, is all energy.

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<v Audio>I know.

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<v Audio>Right?

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<v Audio>Right.

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<v Audio>So it all comes back to energy.

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<v Audio>Fascinating.

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<v Audio>It all comes back to energy, baby.

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<v Audio>And they've actually went on to explain this within the podcast as some type of transfer of energy.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>Between like frequency Yes.

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<v Audio>Or something.

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<v Audio>And the idea of tapping into something greater than ourselves.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>So like.

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<v Audio>Why do you think this is so taboo?

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<v Audio>Cause like, I'm, I'm, I'm mad.

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<v Audio>I'm mad.

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<v Audio>I'm like looking back and I'm like, you guys have known about this for how long?

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And we've let children suffer without a voice, without the education that they need, with like dismissal of these remarkably gifted people.

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<v Audio>Children and we haven't even started you guys like this, this is like the tip of the iceberg.

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<v Audio>wait till you hear us break down some of the insights and some of the wisdom from them.

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<v Audio>But like, why do you think this is?

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<v Audio>I think part of it is, and we're going to get into, just the scientific approach that we've taken in this world since the 19th century, which we're going to dive into.

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<v Audio>so it's our current paradigm, right?

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<v Audio>And the way that we view science and what's real and what's not.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>and I think, too, there's different ways of viewing.

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<v Audio>And I think there's people that are just more open to the unseen, right?

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<v Audio>There's more people who are open to spirituality, who are open to the idea that, there's something bigger and greater beyond us.

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<v Audio>And then there's people who see the world is very black and white.

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<v Audio>And I think a lot of times the people who see the world is very black and white.

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<v Audio>are fearful.

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<v Audio>They're fearful of what they don't know.

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<v Audio>They're quick to say, no, that's not right.

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<v Audio>I can't explain it.

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<v Audio>Yeah, I can't explain it.

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<v Audio>I can't see it.

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<v Audio>I can't touch it.

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<v Audio>So therefore it's not real.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>And I have no interest in it's just crazy and it's dismissed.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>Um, yeah.

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<v Audio>So I don't know.

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<v Audio>What do you think?

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<v Audio>I think that that's all right.

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<v Audio>Right?

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<v Audio>Even Albert Einstein, who discovered the concept of quantum entanglement, described it as spooky action at a distance.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>He was like, you know, and he didn't have an explanation for it, but he didn't dismiss it.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>So like one of the things that they talk about in the podcast.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>And one thing that you and I have been talking about a bunch is Why are we so apt to accept the savant community?

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<v Audio>Which has boggled minds for decades and this is so easily dismissed And like I think it's simply because of what you just said like if we can't see it with our naked eyes We we We can't like accept it.

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<v Audio>Like, but like, this is what I, where I have such a hard time.

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<v Audio>Because if you think about the Savant community, they don't understand how that works either.

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<v Audio>Well, so for example, in the podcast, they talk about savant syndrome.

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<v Audio>And so they talk about all of these children and individuals who have these incredible gifts and knowledge that no one can explain why or how it could be.

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<v Audio>How it came to be.

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<v Audio>So, for example, there was this little boy named Ramses, and at the age of 2, Ramses could read 8 different languages.

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<v Audio>And it wasn't just the Romance languages.

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<v Audio>He could read everything from Arabic to Hindi to Hebrew to Japanese, Russian, I mean these crazy, crazy languages.

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<v Audio>By age two.

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<v Audio>And so her point, and it's so significant, is, okay, basically at the root of this savant syndrome or savantism is the idea that these people have a knowledge of something that they've never been taught.

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<v Audio>And essentially telepathy is the same thing.

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<v Audio>And so why are we so quick to fully, and the scientific community has fully accepted, um, Transcribed The idea of, you know, savant syndrome.

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<v Audio>Yep.

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<v Audio>Why then are they not accepting of telepathy?

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<v Audio>Is it just because like, okay, if I'm four years old or if I have a child that's four years old and all of a sudden they start playing Mozart out of the blue.

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<v Audio>Is it because we can see them play Mozart and hear them play Mozart and that's the problem?

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<v Audio>I think.

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<v Audio>Yeah, I think so too.

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<v Audio>Otherwise it's very easy to dismiss.

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<v Audio>Right.

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<v Audio>But like this in essence is the same thing.

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<v Audio>Like they're tapping into.

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<v Audio>Unability, right?

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<v Audio>That no one's taught them or they're accessing information that no one's given them.

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<v Audio>And in this case, it's thoughts, it's things, it's whatever, that they're telepathically knowing and they're proving it.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Study after study, after study, after study.

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<v Audio>And yet we're still dismissing it.

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<v Audio>And I think it's because it turns every single thing that we know and we've been told on its head.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And people are terrified of that.

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<v Audio>People are terrified of that.

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<v Audio>Not us.

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<v Audio>No.

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<v Audio>We're like, bring it on.

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<v Audio>I'm like, what is this?

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<v Audio>We want to go where?

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<v Audio>Shit just got weird.

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<v Audio>Yes, please.

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<v Audio>So Yeah, and I think one key thing that they talked about when they were talking about this whole telepathy savant thing that I thought was so crucial and the crux of it all is the idea that we tap into consciousness, that it's not within us.

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<v Audio>Oh my gosh.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And that there is like a huge difference too in how science has seen consciousness and we're going to get into that.

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<v Audio>Um, as previously just being something that's stored and created in the brain, but this disproves it because it's not stored in their brain.

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<v Audio>They haven't been taught it.

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<v Audio>I know.

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<v Audio>I know.

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<v Audio>Clearly, they're tapping into something outside of themselves to access the information.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>And you know what I was thinking about too that really annoyed me?

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<v Audio>So The scientific community is actually buying more and more into the thought of near death experiences.

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<v Audio>So, historically, they've written it off because there's no brain activity.

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<v Audio>They're like, if there's no brain activity, there's no way that you're having any kind of conscious, Right.

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<v Audio>Air quotes.

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<v Audio>In quotes.

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<v Audio>Conscious experience.

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<v Audio>And yet, these people are dying.

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<v Audio>They're dead for sometimes, I mean, I was watching one documentary where it was a doctor who died, was dead, pronounced dead for 30 minutes.

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<v Audio>30 minutes.

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<v Audio>Okay, crazy.

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<v Audio>Comes back has this wild experience.

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<v Audio>Tells everybody and They can they can relay exactly what was going on in the emergency room What they were doing to try to revive them what their loved ones were doing in the waiting room What was happening, you know, like we're playing conversations who was doing what who was sitting where?

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<v Audio>obviously zero ability to To be doing this, but it's so repetitive and it's happening with so many similarities that people are starting to be like, uh, yeah, maybe this is real.

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<v Audio>Right.

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<v Audio>So like, again, this irritates me because I don't understand how this is any different.

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<v Audio>Well, and the one thing that they brought up in the podcast that I thought was so like kind of an aha moment for me is they talk about fields, right?

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<v Audio>Like, so there are magnetic fields that extend beyond us.

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<v Audio>Then there are all these different concepts of.

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<v Audio>fields.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Right.

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<v Audio>That we in science totally believe in.

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<v Audio>We can measure them.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>So they were saying, why is it that far fetched to believe that our energy that's within our body might also have a field that extends beyond our physical form?

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<v Audio>Which I was like, well, of course, I just like, and to add to that.

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<v Audio>They can measure our brainwaves, theta, delta, beta, alpha, all have different frequencies associated with them.

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<v Audio>So why can our thoughts not have an energy, right?

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<v Audio>Well, and if you can call someone, which they talked about right on a cell phone anywhere in the world, is it really that far fetched that perhaps people are able to tap into a certain frequency where they can now communicate without a cell phone device, but rather with their brain?

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>Right.

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<v Audio>And that's where this stuff gets so wild and so wild and mind blowing.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>So, you know, this is kind of like, This is two pronged, right?

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<v Audio>It's like there's this community that's been, you know, relatively, I don't want to say neglected, but dismissed by society at large, right?

00:24:07.813 --> 00:24:10.452
<v Audio>Like they're not getting the education needs that they need.

00:24:10.773 --> 00:24:12.962
<v Audio>It's up to the parents to fight everything uphill.

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<v Audio>And then there's this like, Oh my gosh, what does this mean for everybody else?

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<v Audio>Right.

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<v Audio>This changes everything.

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<v Audio>Yeah, everything.

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<v Audio>So one thing we haven't talked about yet that is crucial to what all of these different non speakers talk about.

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<v Audio>What?

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<v Audio>Is where they go.

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<v Audio>The hell yes.

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<v Audio>Oh my God.

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<v Audio>The hell.

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<v Audio>You guys is crazy.

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<v Audio>So every single one of these individuals who are non-speaking have communicated that they go someplace at night.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>Where they are able to talk with other non-speaking autistic.

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<v Audio>Individuals.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And every single one of them refers to it as the hill.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And they describe it almost as like a different realm, right?

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Like, we go to a different realm or a different dimension.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And when we're there, we're able to have discussions like regular people, but it's all telepathically.

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<v Audio>Mm hmm.

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<v Audio>And they know things about people in different parts of the world.

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<v Audio>They have made friends.

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<v Audio>Oh my gosh.

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<v Audio>It's so crazy.

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<v Audio>People in different countries and different states and can tell things verbatim about people that they have never met before.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And it is wild.

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<v Audio>Wild.

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<v Audio>One child actually explained like that's sort of how.

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<v Audio>They got their information.

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<v Audio>I think like one of them.

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<v Audio>I'm trying to remember because I listened to the I binge what listen to the Month ago, but it was like one child that was able to recite Um, who wrote the great Gatsby?

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<v Audio>Oh, Fitzgerald.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>So he became like an expert in his work and he described being in a place where he put on a hat and he basically was able to like download everything from that author.

00:26:04.063 --> 00:26:11.313
<v Audio>And it just became part of his fabric and he was able to return from the hill and relay this information.

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<v Audio>And the mom and dad are like, you've never read that.

00:26:13.942 --> 00:26:15.013
<v Audio>Like how do you know that?

00:26:15.013 --> 00:26:15.853
<v Audio>Where did you hear that?

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<v Audio>We didn't read that.

00:26:16.702 --> 00:26:17.373
<v Audio>Like what?

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<v Audio>You know, like no explanation.

00:26:19.503 --> 00:26:19.913
<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>And in that same episode, I love too, they talked about how there were different hats for different authors.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>So there was Twain, and there was Steinbeck, and there was Fitzgerald, and he could put on each one and then completely download it.

00:26:32.248 --> 00:26:42.638
<v Audio>But it also lends to the, to the idea that whatever we create here may not just be limited to our physical time on Earth, that it might go into eternity and go on forever.

00:26:42.638 --> 00:26:43.208
<v Audio>That makes me want to cry.

00:26:43.418 --> 00:26:43.718
<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>What do you think like our hats would look like?

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<v Audio>No, Just be random sounds.

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<v Audio>Oh my gosh.

00:26:53.238 --> 00:26:57.452
<v Audio>I was thinking like cowgirl hat, You're thinking of like what?

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<v Audio>What they hear.

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<v Audio>What they hear when they put it on.

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<v Audio>Oh my gosh.

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<v Audio>Do it'd just be like cackling and like a bunch of random sounds.

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<v Audio>Slurping wine sounds like, like remember Wingdings, the font?

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>It would be like if Wingdings was.

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<v Audio>Music.

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<v Audio>That's what they would hear.

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<v Audio>Oh my gosh.

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<v Audio>I'm dying.

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<v Audio>No, I was thinking more like what would our hats look like, but I like, I like what you're putting out for us in the universe.

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<v Audio>Like this is what generations will hear after when they put on the spirit of spoken hat, but I do like that.

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<v Audio>It's a cowgirl hat.

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<v Audio>And then it goes into everything else.

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<v Audio>Oh my gosh.

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<v Audio>So good.

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<v Audio>Um, yes.

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<v Audio>And what I also thought was really cool is this, community that they have.

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<v Audio>They teach each other.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>Different things.

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<v Audio>And they learn from each other.

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<v Audio>They learn from each other.

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<v Audio>And they provide each other loving.

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<v Audio>Care and support when they're, I don't want to say not getting it from home because you guys like these parents don't know and when they find out that there is a child of being within that has just been clamoring to love, to experience their heart breaks a hundred times over.

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<v Audio>It's like half the time.

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<v Audio>It's like they go through this grief period of.

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<v Audio>We had no idea every professional, we brought them to every doctor.

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<v Audio>We told them, said, give up, like put them in this course and they'll learn numbers and they'll learn colors.

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<v Audio>But really, uh, the intelligence of these individuals is awe inspiring, right?

00:28:27.623 --> 00:28:30.363
<v Audio>So these parents, once they find out are just shocked.

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<v Audio>So in the meantime, these children find such relief and peace and comfort.

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<v Audio>With other people that understand their shared experience, which I think is really beautiful.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>Right.

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<v Audio>They find beauty in their pain and, you know, their loneliness, and they have an ability to connect deeply, not only academically and what they learn from an intelligence perspective, but emotionally.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And the overarching theme too, is that they have a purpose here.

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<v Audio>And essentially their purpose is to wake us up.

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<v Audio>And they talk about that.

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<v Audio>All the time that they have immense knowledge and information that they would love to be able to share with us.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>But we need to listen.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>If only we would listen.

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<v Audio>Yeah.

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<v Audio>And trust and believe.

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<v Audio>We believe.

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<v Audio>We believe.

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<v Audio>What about you guys?

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<v Audio>You believe you believe?

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>So we are just getting.

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<v Audio>Oh my God.

00:29:28.823 --> 00:29:30.482
<v Audio>There's like so much.

00:29:30.523 --> 00:29:32.123
<v Audio>There's so much so much.

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<v Audio>So I hope you guys enjoyed episode one of season three of unlocking our human potential.

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<v Audio>And next time if you think this is interesting next time we're going to go into what's stopping us from.

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<v Audio>Allowing these non speakers to have access to typing because you would be amazed at the pushback and the naysaying and as they call it, the scientific gatekeeping that is keeping these kids limited and stuck.

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<v Audio>And so we're going to go into the whole materialistic paradigm that we currently live in and that we've been living in since the 19th century, which is part of the problem as to why we're not making more advances in this and talk about.

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<v Audio>Animals, where they're finding telepathic abilities and dive into a little bit about why this matters, why there's hold up and where we go next and what we can learn.

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<v Audio>Yes.

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<v Audio>And we actually get to hear the words of some of these non speaking kids and it is going to blow your mind.

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<v Audio>It's going to blow your mind.

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<v Audio>All right, guys.

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<v Audio>Stay tuned for next week.