Christopher Sean - Actor, Writer, Influencer

 And the more better acquainted you are with people, the better you are as a person, the more people
 are willing to actually say, you know what? I don't mind vetting for you and using my name as
 a furl to help you along the way. And it does actually have like a psychological effect as a child
 because you don't ever see yourself as a hero. You never really see yourself as as the hero of
 your own story. You always see yourself as kind of a side picker supporting role and it's not
 just you. It's how society views people of color. Security guard. He's like, hey, how are you?
 First of all, here's my D. And he's like, no, your name's not on the list. You're not coming in.
 You're listening to the radcast. If it's radical, we cover it. Here's your host, Ryan Alford.
 Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to the latest edition of the radcast.
 We're talking stars today. We're talking soaps. We're talking, acting, writing, everything.
 Christopher Sean. Welcome to the show. Thank you very much for having me, Ryan. I'm honored,
 dude. You are a huge, huge deal. And I am just a minnow in your big pond. Oh, come on, man.
 Star Wars. We got, we won awards. We were writing books. We're, come on, man. I'm just a guy over
 here running a podcast, getting the pleasure to talk to, talk to the stars like yourself.
 Thanks. I appreciate it. Thank you very much for having me. It really is an honor. I'm really
 excited to get to know you a little bit more. Thank you for sharing that your mom enjoys days
 or lives. You enjoy it more twice as much as her, which is really awesome. Yes. I am not even
 in the closet. I'm a, I'll talk about it. Like I'll hear, I'll get like whatever. I'm not
 ashamed of anything. I'm a grown man. You know, like I could say what it is grew up, like
 literally out. Now, let me tell you this, Christopher. I literally, so it's growing up. I'm like 12
 years old. And I come home from school and I would literally, my mom would be watching the replay
 or we'd put in the VCR tape that where she tapes over and over again, the episodes. I give a
 little Debbie, Debbie cake at a cabinet Swiss cake roll with my juice box 12 years old 13,
 whatever was something like that. And I'm watching days. I'm catching up on my days.
 Yes. Yes. Man. This is a dream, especially with Debbie cake within the zebra ones.
 This is just the Swiss cake chocolate roll with the cream or whatever. I don't know.
 And then my sister would bitch at me for, for having to clean up because I always left it in the floor.
 So she's like, I cleaned up every Debbie cakes every day. You know, watching your days are alive.
 So there's some insider. Look, we just gave the audience some insider tips on my childhood
 growing up watching days of my lives. So Christopher, let's let's let's back up a bit. I want
 I want to tell, you know, I want you to tell a little bit of your story. You've got a unique
 background. I love your heritage and, you know, some of the uniqueness of that. I really want to
 talk about, but let's give everybody a little bit of the, I don't know, the cliffs notes on
 on Chris for Sean. My father was a navy and he's retired now and he became a civilian as an
 air traffic controller. He met my mom while he was serving deployed in Yokosuka, Japan,
 Yokosuka, Japan. And, and my two sisters and myself being the youngest and we traveled kind of
 everywhere, our station in Washington, Subikbe, Japan, Mississippi, grandparents in Ohio, San Diego,
 and so forth, kind of travel all over Southern California's home for me. I started off
 and acting. I was, I was always kind of wanting to be an actor because my father, being in the navy,
 he'd record himself on the little beta tapes, you know, this is predating the VCS case.
 Well, he was recorded on the beta tapes and then he would send us, you know,
 little videos of him reading us books and I remember being a kid and seeing my dad on TV and my
 dad's like, you know, reading us a little book about a bat who was playing the both sides of the
 animal kingdom, the ones that fly and the ones that are on land and it was like this. I can't
 remember the name of the actual book, but, you know, he's, he was kind of playing both sides. I
 remember listening to that and my dad would be like, hey Christopher sit down. I'm like, how do you
 know I'm standing? This is crazy. So, um, my mom would then get that camera out and then she
 would record us and she's like, this is for your dad. So make sure you have a good time and make,
 you know, more so I always felt super comfortable and myself on camera. And so
 growing up, I'd never seen anyone kind of looking like me half Asian, half American on television,
 outside of Bruce Lee and Brandon Lee, who they were taken from us so soon. I didn't really have those
 types of role models. So I never really thought this was something that I could do as much as I wanted
 to do my entire life. And I always not having someone who looked like me didn't have that role model.
 So in growing up, I very, very, very, very introverted, very shy person. I decided, you know what,
 I've got to overcome that fear and I've got to pursue my passion, my dream and I just got to go
 for it. So I got an acting classes and from then on, it was kind of like, I remember holding the
 piece of paper shaking, barely being able to read off of the paper because I was so nervous.
 And I remember saying to myself, it was one of the most humiliating and yet freeing experiences
 and I have to overcome that fear because I will not allow it to stop me from pursuing my passion.
 And from then on, I challenged the acting coach to put me in his master's program. He said it
 takes two years. I said, give me six months and I'll get out. And yeah, in six months time, I was in
 the master's class going three days a week, you know, four to sometimes one, two in the morning,
 going up and down, running scene after scene, memorizing every single thing, doing the best
 that I possibly can to prepare myself for the trials that are soap opera worlds. I mean, you're
 my biggest week was 52 pages of dialogue, 37, 19, 12 and seven. I mean, it was incredible. I was
 just one week of work too. You know, that's kind of where I started, where I'm at now in a nutshell.
 Yeah, man, a lot to unpack there. It's funny how many actors I talk to or get to know are more
 introverted. Like, I always expected them to be more extroverted. I don't know what that is. Like,
 I always like, they're just joby-alcohol person. They can do lines or comfortable on camera.
 I don't know what that is. You know, how they transition the two. Is that tough? You know, for me,
 it's a great, it's a great idea and it's a great question. I think most actors, they're artists.
 And so they really like express themselves through their art. And in the art, you're given the
 permission to really create and be something, for me, it's the permission. I need the permission.
 The people around me to say, hey, man, we believe in you. We want you. We want to see you create.
 And it's like, okay, I have that. Again, my mom being Japanese and my dad being military.
 He was a bee seen and not heard. You know, say yes, sir. Yes, man. So it was very about respect and
 and then growing up, it's like, when do you really decide, well, I'm an adult now. I don't think we
 actually ever do. You know, even now, I feel like a kid, but I have to remind myself, like, I'm
 stepped out to three kids. I've got a lady. I got a house. I got two dogs in my own. You know,
 like, I'm an adult now. I have to, I have to adult hard. Yeah. I can't be a kid. You know,
 but it's that permission that I have to even tell myself, hey, man, it's okay. Like the 10-year-old
 self and your 50-year-old self make both of those people proud of this moment. Let's go.
 Hey, I like that. I like that a lot. So that acting journey, so it wasn't just a immediate
 stardom and all the riches and gold and all, you know, like the every gig you ever wanted,
 that I thought that's how it worked, right? Isn't that the Hollywood dream?
 Yeah, it's strange. I stepped out and immediately put a crown on me. I just started to call me Ryan
 Alfred. I'm like, wait, that's not me. I'm not the king. That's you. No, for me, I came out
 here and I really thought like, okay, I have to, who am I? What's going to make me unique? What's
 going to separate me? So I did a few beauty pageants and I thought if I had a title, I can
 get an agent and secured it. After I got a couple of titles, I secured an agent, got my agent
 and they only wanted to rep me commercial. And so I was like, no, no, I was like, yes, of course,
 absolutely, yes. And then I remember going home and thinking, I deserve more. I got to work.
 I got to show them that I deserve it. I was just too complicit. So in that decision,
 I remember I called them like two weeks later after having that inner monologue being like,
 you're worth it. You're valuable. Come on, man. And I called them and I was like, can I
 show you that I'm ready for theatrical as well? And they're like, okay, come on in. Do a monologue
 for us. And I did, I did, um, oh, it slipped my mind, but I did a monologue and they gave me a two-year
 contract on the spot, signed across the board. I was like, okay, so as long as I can continue to
 overcome my fears and speak what I want, I can have it. And every audition room I got in, I learned
 something, I failed and I failed and I failed. I wasn't either, whether it was my look,
 I'm not Asian enough or I'm not white enough, where there's my experience. My resume wasn't big
 enough to be able to get the larger rules. Whatever it may be, I failed time in time again, countless
 amount of times. But through each failure, I learned and I grew and I adapted and I evolved.
 And I found that, you know, nothing was going to stop me unless I gave up, unless I chose to throw
 in the towel. And after about eight or nine years, I just shot Hawaii 50, one episode and I'm kind
 of making jokes on the set. And I remember one guy kind of sitting in the corner over there and I was
 like, oh, he seemed a little grumpy. I'm going out. And, you know, he's kind of overlooking
 everything, but not thinking twice and making jokes, so to make him feel good. And he basically
 was like, you know, hey, you're really good. We'll see you next season. I was like, nah, bro,
 I'm one and done. I got to do this awesome episode. I'm very happy. Thank you. And he's like,
 no, I'm the executive producer. We'll see you next season. I was like, no way. I get home, tell
 my parents, things happen. Anyway, long story short, I'm kind of homeless at the time. And then
 for a few months, you know, kind of living on different people's couches, couch surfing,
 here and there, found myself. The number one rule was like, you know, two things that go bad in
 three days, fish and house cats. So I was like, oh, I got to be out. So on the second night, you
 know, I'd sleep. I'd wake up super early, clean everything up and leave. They're like, hey, man,
 what happened? Where'd you go? I was like, oh, I'm so busy. I got, I got, you know, I got a lot of
 things to do because I'd never wanted them to worry about me. You know, I was like, but my goal,
 again, was to like always, always be proactive, be ready and stay ahead of the game. And after about
 nine years of struggle, and again, not having complete focus, just to what I wanted. After being
 homeless, I cut everything out of my life. I was toxic. That was bad. And I started to refine
 and filter out everything that wasn't helping me in my goal. And from there, you know, right after
 Y5L, I got a two-year contract on days and about three months in, they call me back for Y5L. Hey,
 we want you to be the main antagonist, you know, on seasons five and six. And it was kind of like
 for three years. I was flying back and forth with my Y5L and days are a lot.
 How was, how Y5L, did you know, I mean, you're probably not even old enough. I'm very, I don't know,
 I'm a little older than you. I don't think I'm the original. Like, did you study the original?
 Like, how much, how much knowledge was even required? It wasn't.
 Honestly, like, I, I, I knew nothing about this. I just knew that it was like a huge
 franchise. I mean, it was a very, very popular. Everyone loved it. It was like, what the cool
 people do, you know, and like, Alex Loughlin's got con. You got Grace Park and Daniel Day Kim.
 I love, I love them so much. Yeah. But I did, I literally did one audition. And I thought,
 like, they're like, it's a big, you know, guest star role where you're the brother-in-law
 of Daniel Day Kim. I'm like, dude, the guy from Lost, this guy's legend. And I, like I said,
 I really knew nothing of the show. I was just kind of going in. I was doing what I felt was right
 for the role. And kind of came through fruition. Like I said, it kind of fell into my lap. One
 episode turned to, to another one, turned into another two, turned into three, turned into one,
 turned into 13 episode run on a three year span and, and making relationships with Grace Park
 and Daniel Day Kim, who my, the utmost respect for both of them. And, and that's a thing. Like you
 said, like, I would think like that snowballing and you, you, you taking advantage of it, like,
 you mentioned the executive producer. But getting on the shows like that with those names,
 Hollywood, I mean, it's like anything else, not watching us, who, you know, right? Like,
 because you never know what projects they're going to do. They remember you, you make an impression.
 I mean, I have, I would just think that it, those kind of things snowball as those relationships
 you build, because I think with those relationships come more opportunities, right?
 You're absolutely right. I mean, because in the end, it's like, I, I always say, yes, the old saying
 is it's, it's not what you know to, you know, but to add on to that, it's who you know and how you
 know them. Yeah. Because now that you know me, you know, but you can't really ask me of a
 favor as of yet. But by the end of this, we're probably going to hang out having Christmas dinner
 together. You know, when I come to LA, we're going to have drinks and or dinner or, you know,
 go surfing, whatever it is, whatever, you know, yeah. Yeah, man. I'm going to be playing the
 wife of a theme song. We're going to be, I'm going to have days for a live theme song. You know,
 I'm going to bring my hourglass, you know, like, I have one actually hidden in the corner.
 There was my days 50 year anniversary, but I thought, but I mean, it comes down to who you know
 and how you know them and the more better acquainted you are with people, the better you are as a
 person. The more people are willing to actually say, you know what? I don't mind vetting for you
 and you using my name as a referral to help you along the way. And there has not been many people
 who've been willing to actually stick their name out or stick their neck out for me. But the very
 few people who have, I will have a lifelong debt to these people because this Hollywood is a
 cutthroat business. And if I'm working, many of them feel that many people feel that, you know,
 what? That means you're taking food off my plate. But the way I see it is, because there's such
 few Asian Americans that are actually working in the entertainment industry. And like,
 we just got our first Marvel superhero, right? Shang Chi. We just got, I'm, you know,
 upper 30s. And I'm just seeing my very first role model who is a superhero. Like for me, it was
 very, very big thing. I dreamed of being a superhero my entire life. And so I never thought that I
 would be able to play one, let alone now I'm in the role of Nightwing Batman's first protege
 at the DC in DC, you know? So, um, and I think those things like again, I'm sorry. No, and I think
 it's interesting like the, you know, I tried to be self-aware and I try to like think about like,
 but you know, I mean, I mean, I'm just a white guy from South Carolina. Like, but recognizing going,
 you know, like you said, growing up as a kid, you know, having an Asian background and like,
 not seeing or having that reference point, it's like, that's a big deal, you know? And like,
 and then getting that opportunity to become, you know, a role model. I don't know, I just think
 that's cool. You know, I really appreciate that. And it does actually have like a psychological
 effect as a child, because you don't ever see yourself as the hero. And you never really see
 yourself as, as the hero of your own story. You always see yourself as kind of the sidekick
 or supporting role. And it's not just you, it's how society views people of color. Yeah.
 And sadly, it's like, well, you know, oh, there's the Asian guy when you think of Asian,
 you immediately slap the mysterious types, you know? The nerd, the mathematician, the martial
 artist. Now, I'm great at all three of those. You're smart. You're good looking and you're
 great at karate. But other than that, I don't want to stereotype you. I mean, we'll let you have
 those. No, but honestly, like, you know, just like, I bet you're great at, at those as well,
 plus many more. We're multi-layered people as well as any other race, you know? And it's like
 the more that you showcase that on television, the more that you start to normalize other races
 and that we are just all bleeding the same color blood. That's right. You know, there were no
 different you and I. I'm just, I'm, I'm the thumb on the hand. And you're, you can be the pointer,
 you can be the middle, whatever you like. We're all on the same hand, you know? Yeah.
 Yeah. So, all right. Wait a, I waited 18 minutes to get into days where I lies. You know,
 I mentioned it earlier, but you know, my, my guilty or not, my not guilty pleasure. I know it's
 been a big deal for you. And it's funny because I asked you, we talked pre episode, you know, like,
 so where did you get the most recognition? You know, like, and he said, the most excitement might
 come from people recognized you for days. So multi level question here, you know, first talk about
 in general, I'm curious like the soap opera person, you know, experience and the days experience.
 And I don't know, give us some, I don't know, grub or insight to the soap opera world, you know,
 behind the scenes. Man, I'll tell you what, it is a very, very fast machine. If you can't keep
 up, you know, Dracogist, and always tells me your name is on paper, and they can come off that
 door just as quick as it was put up, you know, you got to be ready. And, and for me, it was like,
 I got in there, I remember auditioning for the role, like, against thousands of other people.
 And I walked in and it was like, I was kind of like, not thinking. I was kind of like, you know
 what? I'm so focused. I just screwed up my opportunity in general hospital with Mark Teshner,
 Frank Valentini. I lit it. I got the producers for the role. And I just stumbled. I fell apart.
 I was I pulled it under the pressure. I wasn't ready. And again, in that failure, like any,
 like any other, I sat, I stood and I thought about it. And how can I make myself better from these
 moments? Had the opportunity to meet with Marnie, I had cast director Dave. And right off the first
 audition, she looked at me and said, we're bringing you straight to producers. So I was excited. I
 get to meet, I get to meet Greg Mang, you know, and I mean, everyone knows the prolific Greg Mang.
 Well, they call me back this. It's already the team just script. We just want to not throw any
 curveballs at you. But here you go. I remember getting to the producer session. I saw a large group of
 black, black men. So large group of Latin American, mass, a large group of Asian American men.
 I was like, man, it looks like everyone else is going for different roles. They were, we were all,
 I didn't know. We're all battling for Paul. Long story short, came down to me and two other actors,
 one black, one Latin and myself. They asked if I spoke Japanese. I said, yeah,
 I asked if I knew sports. I said, oh, yeah. And it's got money met with me. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
 Marnie met with me on the day. Actually, I was driving into the lot, getting the Burbank studios.
 And I was like, oh, man, this is it, you know, security guard. He's like, hey, how are you?
 Christopher Sean, here's my ID. And he's like, no, your name's not on the list. You're not coming in.
 And I was like, wait, I'm supposed to be in there doing a network test. Yeah, my name wasn't on
 the list. They're getting into the studios. And it's like four o'clock in the morning,
 no one's answering their calls, my agent, my manager, no, Marnie was like, I'll be right there,
 save my day. And then I got on set and Freddie Smith was like, my scene partner. And,
 you know, I was like, dude, I don't know. I'm like, you know, I'm confident, but I'm nervous to
 be kissing you, Freddie. And I was like, and he's like, don't worry, man, I got you. And that was
 it. Like we, you know, we had my first case on camera. And I booked the role working with Freddie
 very comfortable working with him. He was awesome. And then, you know, on the day set, this is where we
 start getting a little crazy on the day one. My very first scene is Sean Christian, the famous
 gorgeous Sean Christian doctor on Days of Elives and Christopher Sean. So stage manager friend
 is calling us both out the sets, like Sean Christian, Chris, Chris, Chris, you both know your
 names. Get out here. Like, oh, man. And right before I go out, one of the actors, Daniel,
 I'm drawing a blank here. Daniel says to me, hey, man, they don't care about the blah, blah, blah.
 They only care about the ooh, blah, blah. So I was like, oh, I got to look pretty. So I'm trying to
 do the blue steel in my scene. Like, I look like an idiot. I don't know how the fans enjoyed me at all.
 But yeah, there's that. And kind of like, you know, a couple a year or two in the project. I
 remember being on set. I got the meaty draw. And we related because we both have siblings that have
 Down syndrome. And, you know, she's one of the most loving and powerful presence. She is
 such a powerful. She's Queen B. They call it, right? Queen B. I said because she just really understands
 that she's been, she has the most time on camera than any other actor in Hollywood. That's why
 in one of the reasons she got her started while Hollywood Walk of Fame. I mean, she's in
 Croshoes. She used to ride elephants, stand on elephants and do circus shows and tap dance. And
 she was a superhero. And he's your hall, everybody, you know, round of applause for her. We love
 her working with her. She was amazing. I remember, though, being in the in the hair and makeup,
 this is where everything with that. I call it the watering hole because everyone comes and when
 talks about what's going on in the days and Drake Hogan comes in and I just have been up most
 respect to this gentleman. And this is prior to me finding out that I was going to be his son
 on the show. And we're hanging out and talking, talking, talking. He's talking, talking, talking.
 And I'm loving it. But, you know, some people are like, oh, Drake talks forever. And I was like,
 you know, so I get a call from stage manager and they're like, hey, Christopher Sean,
 when you jump front, like, excuse me, Drake, one quick second. I run over. And they're like,
 oh, man, so sorry, you know, sometimes some people can, and I was like, is this literally the only
 reason why you called me out? I mean, you called me out to stop me from having conversation with
 this legend. And they were like, what were you just trying to help you? And I was like, thank you,
 but no, thank you. And I ran back in. He was like, everything I was like, yeah, just a misunderstanding.
 So anyway, where were you? And he's telling me about his days at a New York Yankees. He's telling me
 about like, you know, seven bribes and seven sons and seven bribes. I mean, all of his stories.
 The firm one listening that might know him by his, his, his day's name. Who are we talking about?
 I apologize. John Black. Yes. John Black. Yes.
 Man, he legend himself. The white fox. I love him. The silver fox. Excuse me.
 Um, gorgeous, double-o agent. He was also the one who was like, read this book. It helped me find
 my character, the born identity. Oh, wow. And I read it. I read the whole book,
 front the back. I love this so much. My lady got me the entire series. I've four or five books
 hidden over here. My bookshelf. Oh, yeah. Such great. But yeah, man, like every day, me and,
 and John Black, Drake Hogan, we would sit in this dressing room and we would just, I would just
 talk for hours prior to actually going to set. And we would just relate and he would really
 afford to figure it out. Um, it was great. Which character or actor was most like their person,
 real person in real life? Is anyone like, like, almost playing themselves?
 That's a great question, man. Um, I always wondered that because like some of these guys,
 you know, super, super is maybe get like a bad rap sometimes, but like some of them, like,
 I just imagine them, they have to act like this has to be them in real life. I don't know.
 You know, it's funny is like each person is a little different. Like, um, John Aniston.
 I'll tell you a little story. I don't know if I should. You know, I'm going to tell you the story
 about John Aniston. Yes. When I first, when I first met him, he was, he was, I was like,
 hi, Pleasure to meet you, sir. Like, respect your work. And he's like, ah, what are you doing
 the show? And I was like, oh, man, he's tough. You know, he's like, I'm like, I play, you know,
 Paul Narita. I'm on the home record of Sonny and Will. And I tell you a joke. And he goes on to
 tell me this joke that I was like, yeah, okay, sure. Uh, the joke was not family friendly. Let's
 just say that. I'm like, who is this guy? He's got a chocolate. And he's like, have a great day.
 And I'm like, what the heck? So completely contrary to what I thought he was like this. Yeah.
 Very like upright, regal man. He was like, you know, telling dirty jokes in the bag, being hilarious
 by the way. And I was like, what a way to break the ice. What a way to make someone feel comfortable.
 Like, what a, what an awesome experience, uh, actor. Yes. I just remember, uh, how many times,
 and I know, um, he's now passed. And I do not know a lot of these guys. I admit, I knew some of
 them if they were like, just like gigantic stores, like, obviously, Marlena, uh, but, uh, they're
 acting game. But Stefano, like, how are you talking about Stefano, gonna put good, uh, you know,
 how many different ways will he come back? Oh, man, he was the Phoenix. He's surprising. He's
 hyper eyes. And man, who's the, who's the bad guy now? I mean, who's like the bad bad guy? Is
 there one? Uh, that's a great question. I think Stefan. Oh, Demara is the new bad guy. Yeah. All right.
 Trying to be, to be entirely honest, I'm not following it as much as I should. Um,
 excuse me, the more I watch it, the more I'm like, I need to be back. I missed them so much.
 Which is one of the reasons, excuse me why I jump back to Beyond Salem. I was like, I got,
 I got to get that, that H field. What is Beyond Salem? Let's talk about that project. Let's
 happen in there. Uh, that's Peacock. Peacock app. And on the Peacock app, they began streaming
 the Beyond Salem. It's a spin off series of days of our lives. And there, um, Beyond Salem,
 chapter two, we had, uh, we had a whole slew like a diamond heist and a kidnapping of John
 Black and a brainwashing of, of patch and, and John and patch and, um, everyone's trying to save
 the day while Bowen Hope loved, never dies. They're brought back to the series and Bowen Hope.
 I mean, Krishna Fanzo, Peter Reckle, the most probably one of the arguably one of the most
 beautiful couples in television history, like, uh, amazing chemistry, amazing talent. Um,
 and they were like, we're done with soaps. And yet, they're back doing the Peacock app,
 Beyond Salem too. So, you know, if you're a huge fan of Bowen Hope, which I don't any soap
 off, every soap show, if you're a soap fan, you know Bowen Hope. Like, if you're a fan of
 there, that would say come out and watch the show on the Peacock app. Is the, uh, is the soap
 upper world just like its own world, like comparative to, I mean, because you've got daily episodes,
 like it's, I mean, it's just, it's a soap, you know, like just the amount of content,
 like everything else. I mean, is it from a business perspective, just as unique as it seems?
 You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. Because I had a buddy who works in Disney
 Animations, names Frank Niddle, um, love, love, love Frank. He's a family friend of ours. And Frank
 works, like I said, in the Disney, since way back in Tarzan. That was his first project. And he's
 been, um, a part of Disney since then. And, you know, he gave us a tour of the Disney Animation Studios,
 where, you know, this is where they created every Disney animated movie, starting with
 Snow White and on to, we were at the time we were there. They had this secret project,
 which was Raya and the last dragon and Adele B. Limbs work in there. And, um, we're kind of
 walking around, seeing frozen to everywhere. The artists working on, you know, finalizing every
 little, little bits here and there. It was amazing to see. Um, but Frank, he's around this,
 he's been on the projects for a few years. And he's a huge days fan. And I was like, hey,
 man, because you're giving my family this opportunity, um, I'd like to give you the opportunity to
 have a tour of NBC love and days of our lives. Uh, now he's kind of still working. I'm laughing.
 I'm like, what do I thought you'd be excited? He's like, believe me, I'm very excited. I'm keeping
 my composure. This is my monster show. This is my favorite show. He's like, oh, my God. Thank
 you so much. I'm like, cool. So, you know, he gets there and I was like, what was your first thought?
 How did you feel? Who did you run into? And he was like, uh, I saw so many of the stars just
 walking the hall. So he was like, I, I, I, I, I knew him. I knew and he can go. He's like the
 almanac of soap. Like, he knows everything. Um, and he kind of went on and on and on. But he was,
 the one thing he did say was I can't believe how fast paste it was. And I can't believe
 how the sets, they seem so small. Like on the show, it seems like there's huge,
 but our imaginations create this whole world behind the small set that it is, right?
 And, um, so he was like, I didn't realize how small the sets were, but I was able to get on the
 set and just kind of live every little moment and breathe in. Uh, you know, the, the mirror mansion
 and, and, and, and the, the, the Brady pub and all those great, those great, great places. And
 how's, uh, so you, so you do get is recognized for that than anything else. And I'm sure like,
 soap fans are just like different fans, right? And they just like, they're so passionate.
 They're the most passionate fan base. And honestly, like, I, you know, I did Star Wars.
 Yeah. And I was, uh, I was, uh, I was a part of Star Wars resistance. I did Star Wars visions.
 I just recently did Star Wars celebration, the largest Star Wars convention in the United States.
 Like huge, amazing. But the love that I get when I do soap opera events, the love that I get,
 anytime I'm posting things from the soap fans, you know, they're like, I've been a fan from day one.
 I've been a fan for 56 years and I know this and this. And when you came on, I knew you were
 going to do great. You know, I was like, and they follow my career. They still reach out to me.
 I have a long list of people that I can think that have supported me through my, my, my,
 when I left the show and had been there for me when I came back. You know, um, they're amazing.
 They're the best fan base that I've, I've, I've ever found in the entertainment industry.
 How's, uh, you know, you've, you've been in the business for a while now.
 You've had the peaks and valleys. You've seen a lot of everything. So I think you're,
 you know, I think maybe hitting your stride, maybe like your, your popularity,
 your opportunities. Hopefully you're growing. We'll get a little bit more into that.
 But it's interesting to me, you've, you've, you've kind of come up to the business while
 social media has kind of taken off, you know. I'm curious from a business and marketing perspective
 the impact that you have or may haven't seen, you know, as it relates to the power of social media
 and maybe your career and like how you leverage it or, you know, all those things, I'd just be curious.
 I think that's a great question. And I think that absolutely, you know, social media absolutely
 correlates to the entertainment industry because social media is marketing. It's direct to consumer
 marketing. So if you're not taking advantage of that, if you're not seeing the value in that as a
 business person, then you're absolutely missing the trend. What's popular? What is
 the new means of marketing? I continue to say that because again, like if I were to be going up
 for a role and I've got a million followers. And then Ryan Alfred comes in and he's got 10
 million followers. We're both amazing. We're both awesome. He's super buff, sexy, gorgeous,
 got a voice to kill. And then me, I'm trying to compete, but I only have a million followers and
 I'm almost as good as him. Who are they going to choose? Of course they're going to choose Ryan.
 Because again, those are 10 million eyes that are going to be going to their project if and when
 he were to post on his social media for their project. So it does sadly, in my mind, it does play
 a large part. I mean, even sometimes in breakdowns when you're getting auditions, now it'll say,
 social media following a plus, not important, but a plus. Why would they put that on there?
 If it wasn't something that they were thinking about. So sadly, it does play a major integral part
 into the success, but it can be sadly, or it could be something that you're well aware of and you
 can take advantage of it and do the hustle just like anyone else. You got a hustle for what you want
 in life. And if they're telling you this is what they want, well then get ahead of the game and
 start working, develop it, get on it. Like I'm posting every single day and my stories, you know,
 I post every single day because that is a 24 hour window where I know that that's it. You have
 to come to my page to see what I'm doing within that 24 hours or you're never going to see it again.
 Yeah. So that's going to continue to keep that that that 90% retention rate that Instagram,
 Snapchat and whatever other companies that do stories will continue to have to keep that
 high retention rate and retention to interactions to so forth. Those are very important facets as
 well. Like you have to start getting and you have to start getting like collaborating with people
 like yourself who are very successful. You got a very, very strong fan following and you're unique
 because you reach out in so many different areas. You cast a wide net. It's very smart what you do
 and how you do it, you keep the fans interested. You continue to grow your fan base and you collaborate
 with people that you find interesting and because you're passionate about it, you're sharing that
 passion and people love you not for the business that you run. People love you for you and then they'll
 love whatever you decide to pass on to them because it's you. You're right and you're amazing and
 you started off and you were so loving to me and I was like, I love this guy. I was like,
 you're cool as heck. I'm sold. So whatever it is you post, I want to like, I want to comment on
 because you've taken my heart. You're a great person. And that's what social can do for you. It creates
 that opportunity. Like you said, it can be a detriment or you can look at it as a lever for opportunity
 because you know, you invest in time and all that. You got your fans following you but you never
 know what producers watching. You never know. Like you said, what audition you're going to get in
 and hey, this guy's active on social media. He's a great actor. He's talented but he's also
 going to bring us, you know, some awareness on top of a project. Maybe it's not as big as like
 some gigantic movie or something but it's a leverage point. So it's smart of you to kind of leverage
 it and use it for what it can be. And that's what I coach people on is like, you know, use it.
 You know, it's like it's there. Like we can, you know, bitch about it all day but like it's it's
 an opportunity point for for people. And you know, people look at it and they say, uh, why are you
 bitching about it? Like what's what's the main problem? Well, you know, back in my day, I had a
 journal and no one was allowed to read it. Now the internet is your journal and you expect everyone
 to read it. Well, so what? You know, the only constant life is change. Everything's constantly
 changing always even after like saying that sentence, you know, my inner my inner is my outer
 everything's changing. So keep up. Yeah. And also it's like, if I got again, you know,
 if I got a million followers, even if I have a hundred followers and I have a particular niche and
 you know what? I'm like, I love this. Whatever this may be, you can a have a community of people
 to hang out with and talk about that will enjoy that same thing you do. And then now you have
 friends and social media, not so lonely. You have people that are accessible, celebrities that
 are accessible. I mean, you reached out to me via Instagram and I then researched you and I was
 like, why in the world would this super successful person reach out to me? But basically like it is
 one of those things where you know, celebrities are accessible. Yep. You can build communities.
 If you need spare change and you have a hobby, you have the opportunity to then make a little
 cache by sailing it to friends rather than knocking door to door. Like again, there's so many
 opportunities that can be found if you just aren't afraid of change. Yeah. That is a big point.
 Now have you gotten on TikTok? Yeah. Yeah. I suck at it, but I'm on it.
 You know, the difference between Instagram is like pictures can say a thousand words and videos say
 those thousand words, but TikTok is like, all right, we're taking it to the next and now we're
 going to dance and everything and it's like, I don't dance, man. I'm not a dancer either, but you
 know, you got to, you got to change. But you know what? I have the TikTok. I've been posting on it.
 I've been trying to interact with people and you know, it is one of the things where it changes
 here. It's inevitable. And I'm on it. I'm up to like 250 followers compared to my IG. Yeah.
 But I'm having fun on it. Now I can't stop watching these videos on TikTok. It's so cool.
 Well, that's a whole, it's a whole nother time. There's like, you go down the vortex. It's like
 the swiping vortex on the time. It's like, whoa, I thought it was 40 seconds. It's been 40 minutes.
 What happened on the rabbit hole? Yeah. That's, I mean, honestly, like that type of engagement.
 That's what I hope for when people are watching shows on like days where lives. You got an hour
 a day where people can watch and be like, I know I'm going to watch for an hour. And my problems
 for the day are going to dissipate. I'm going to sit and enjoy, get lost. And then after that,
 it's like, all right, back to cooking dinner or laundry or whatever it made back to the errands
 of the day. But you know, that's one thing I absolutely love about days of our lives is we always
 had that time where we can share an hour with the fan base. And I feel like that may be why the
 fans are just so loyal because for us, it's a livelihood. It helps us live our lives and do
 something passionate about them. It also helps them live their lives. And again, that that symbiotic
 relationship is pretty awesome. So what are what are some projects in the work? What's the day in the
 life of Christopher Sean like? Well, day in the life. Before I'd say it's sporadic. It's crazy.
 It's now I've kind of gotten it down to like, like I said, I'm adulting pretty hard now. So I wake up.
 I immediately sit up. I go right into meditation because you're kind of in that alpha state where
 your mind can still create. And if we're all just balls of energy floating around and
 on a spinning around a sun that's flying through space in the middle of nothing,
 it's around another balls of energy. It's like, what is life really? You know, like,
 make the best of it as you can. So I just continue to put out there what I want in my life.
 You know, my mantra is I am a world-famous successful high-paid and abundantly working happy
 loyal academy award-winning lead actor on camera and invoice over. And what I will give back. This
 is what most people miss. That's what I will give back is my heart, my passion, lessons on how
 to be better. I'm a better, every person that comes around me that truly wants the better themselves.
 That's my job to help them as well. Hey, man. So I love that. I need myself to think.
 But it's that. You know, it's like a lot of times like, you can't just continue to take.
 Because then you become gluttonous. Then you become lethargic. Then life is just nothing matters.
 But in giving, you find just as much love and passion and giving. So in that continues,
 they say to give and not receive breaks the cycle of love, the Dalai Lama.
 Because basically, if I give you a gift and it makes me feel good and you want to give me a gift,
 and I'm like, no, no, I can't. Please, no. It's like, no, thank you. I will accept that whole
 heartedly because if I don't allow you to feel the love of giving, then I've broken that cycle.
 Now it's awkward. Now it's weird. Now you don't want to come over for Christmas and now we can't
 have dinner. So, you know, I wake up and I meditate and I put out what I want. I see my thoughts
 for what they are. Like, because we literally will always have random thoughts. Probably
 listening to me now talking, you're like, well, I'm not going to have for dinner or whatever
 may be. We're running low on time or whatever. Thoughts are nationally happened. That's just
 what we have to be aware of them. But our thoughts will keep us in line as long as we have a mantra
 that will continue to guide us to what our goal is. But again, you just have to kind of be aware of
 your thoughts and through meditation. You become aware that you are not your thoughts. Your thoughts
 are just visuals that you see on the train of life and you're just kind of watching. Those thoughts
 go by and the more that you allow them to affect you, the more that you can affect other people
 in a negative way. So, for me, meditation's key. Wake up, start to do a meditation. Go right,
 have my breakfast, go right to the gym, work out, hit the weights, hit the jump rope.
 I did it the more you know campaign with the star, the more you know. Did you know jumping rope
 convert 10 to 15 calories every minute? The more you know. You know, like get out there and
 get in shape. But I've been applying that now more recently. And after the gym, I come home and
 it's right to email. It's right to social media, whatever work I need to do. I'll either
 you know, if I have auditions, if I have voiceover auditions, I start knocking them out immediately.
 That night, Monday, if you Friday, I tried to find time for my lady. Her language of love is
 quality time. So, for me, what do you, what are you passionate about? She's passionate about horror
 films. She loves the scary movies. And I'm a big Disney guy. I'm a big like, I'm like, you know,
 Pokemon and anime like she loves those horror films. So, I'm like, so now I've been
 avidly watching horror films one a day with her. You know, so it's been a little bit time cut out.
 And so now I'm kind of knocking out two version of what I'm studying acting. I'm studying cinema.
 I'm studying performance. I'm studying the way they're made. And I'm also hanging out with my lady,
 doing something she loves, right? She ready to be the next Michael Myers is what you're saying.
 Hey, there you go. You got it. I'm ready.
 But yeah, man, and then after that, it's like, you know, I'll read a, I've got like different books
 that I read, self-help books. And whether it's like self-improvement or fantasy books like
 Ender's Game or comic books to study and Nightwing and whatever it may be, I like enjoy reading.
 And then late at night, I'm playing video games, man. You can catch me on the PlayStation 5,
 playing some video games with some friends talking smack. You're not going to beat this. You suck.
 I got you. You're nothing. All right. Good job, man. You beat me again.
 That's right again. Sorry, son. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
 Yeah, you think he's a friend. He's a, he's 11 years old. And you've like, he's grying
 because the Nightwing, uh, Christopher Sean is like, beat him up on Fortnite or something.
 So I got you. Yeah, listen, I'll buy you a dollar later. I love you.
 Send you an autograph. Oh, you know, the hourglass.
 That's in it. It seconds is a time. I'm from the next time we go kick your ass.
 Oh, that's so funny. So how are the opportunities these days? I mean, you getting,
 is the phone ringing more, the emails coming more like are you seeing more and more opportunities?
 Yeah, quantity and quality, you know, finally now, like, I'm seeing Asian American actor.
 Japanese American. I mean, I can count like in my entire 12 years of trying to be an actor.
 It was like, I had two opportunities for HAPPA role. So that was it. Now it's like Asian American,
 Asian American. Sadly, because of everything's trying to be so politically correct, it's like looking
 for Chinese American, looking for Korean American, not mixed. So I still miss out. It's still kind
 of a detriment. But at the same time, the more that I see Asian American faces on camera, the more
 opportunities for them and opening that culture, I'm still a part of that culture. So, you know,
 things will still trickle my way. But again, quantity and quality, like I feel that I'm finally
 going up for series regulars. I'm finally going up for leads and movies. I'm
 going, touching on that, I just, you know, booked a lead of a Netflix animated feature that will
 come out in 2024. I'm very excited about that. Very, very excited about that. And, you know,
 my entire life, I grew up wanting these opportunities. And now they're here. And I'm so grateful.
 Gratitude is everything I've found. You know, everything is gratitude to the fans, to the work,
 to the people that took care of me and then toward me, to the people that were willing to put
 their names up, to the fact that you even wanted to speak with me, you know, who am I in the world
 of Ryan? Like, I'm, I'm, like, yet a minnow in this ocean that is Ryan's intelligence and background.
 Like for me, I'm lucky. So thank you. And again, it's everything, man. It is.
 No, man. It's my pleasure having Christopher Sean on the red cast.
 Is, uh, any dream rolls? Like, uh, if we got anything, you know, you, you sound like a gold guy,
 like, is there anything like any, uh, I don't know, bucket lists or you take them as they come or
 you like, man, yeah. You know what? I got a vision board. Okay. You know, like a vision board is
 kind of like a goal, like where you want to go. But I'm not too specific because I said, I
 have my whole life. Like the first time, like we're going to San Diego Comic Con literally right
 after this interview, I got the person that just called me. Um, he's like, Hey, we're out front.
 We're going. Where are you at? We're holding on the Comic Con bus here on the red cast.
 No, man, you know, Comic Con can't wait. I'm here with Ryan on red cast, baby.
 No, but honestly, like my goal, I told my lady, we went six years ago. We were in a motel, spent
 $300 and a small cigarette burn, roaches on the wall, sticky floor, the, the drains went
 drain. And I was like, I'm, baby, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. But, you know, this is something I've
 always wanted. I always wanted to, and she's like, it's a memory. It's amazing. I'm not bougie.
 You're bougie. Not me. I'm like, you're right. I'm the bougie. She's like, this is an amazing
 memory. And you will never forget that. And I said, I promise you, I will be back here on stage,
 having a panel of my own, when people will come and want to see me six years later, we're there.
 Now, that was a very specific goal. And I worked really hard for it. But overall, the goal
 was to be a superhero, not just specifically Marvel, not specifically DC, not a Japanese superhero.
 Like, it was just a superhero. And now, again, one of the coolest, sexiest, charismatic superheroes
 out there, you know, Batman was very stoic and tough. And then Robin, who grows up to become
 Nightwing, charming, optimistic, like basically Nightwing is Batman, if he was raised with good
 parents, you know. And I get to be this guy. I'm the first Asian American person to portray Nightwing.
 Holy cow, that's huge. So again, you know, it's like, my goals are,
 if you, if you aim low, you'll hit, you'll always regret it. Every time I had on my vision board,
 the most Emmy nominated actor, Emmy nominated shows, and we were nominated for prime time Emmy
 on Star Wars Resistance. And we were nominated on data for lives. And I was pre-nominated for my,
 from performances as Paul Merida, but I never won. Why? Because I aimed low and I hit.
 And so now I got in my mantra, I'm an Academy Award-winning lead actor on camera
 and in voiceover. You know, the goal is to continue to put out exactly what I want. And if I miss,
 that's fine. I'm a lot higher than where I would have hit if I aimed low. And I'm happy with that.
 So my goals again are to be the number one on cast list, the number one where I can, again,
 be role models to people who didn't have them, be the number one where I can show what it means to
 have a positive and optimistic mindset and guide people in a loving way. Compared to some people
 have pretty heavy egos. I won't name names, but I've worked with some people who have taken away
 from my time to perform because they felt that it was necessary for them to do 10 takes when I was
 only given one opportunity, you know, one shot. That's it. I'm sorry we're out of time. Can you guys
 please go straight to take? Yeah, I mean, we were practicing knowing this was going to happen,
 hoping it wouldn't, but we prepared for it. So, you know, like, I won't do that to people.
 I won't lead by that example. I will always lead with a positive and righteous choice. It may be
 harder, it may take longer, but that's what I, that's my goals. Those are my goals.
 I love it, brother, man. You've been a refreshing pleasant interview in a lot of ways. And I really
 appreciate you come to show. I can't wait to have Christmas dinner and to hit the strip in Hollywood.
 You know, maybe I'll wherever they're putting your star down here in the next few months.
 Right. Thanks. I appreciate it, man. When you, when the star is down, I'm going to be looking
 at the end to Ryan. I'm having me on the show. Where are your hands? There you are. I'm going to
 have you on my arm. Get up here with me. But for real, let's keep it going. I want to stay in touch
 and definitely get up when I'm out your direction.
 Give me up, man. I might be able to pull some strings for days of a live tour. Who knows, man?
 Give me up. Don't, don't, don't give me excited, man. Don't give me excited.
 Christopher, we're going to keep up with you. Oh, Instagram, please. Instagram, I'm on TikTok.
 Christopher Sean, but Instagram is where I'm mostly located. I will apply to almost every DM at Mr.
 Christopher Sean. One word, MR Christopher Sean as EAM. Thank you for the love, man. I really
 appreciate having me. My pleasure. Also, I'll be a Sandy over Comic Con with Gotham Knights.
 That's a project coming out on my birthday, October 25th is Gotham Knights. Batman is killed in our
 project and his protege is Nightwing, Red Hood, Robin and that girl, amazing babs. We have to take
 over and protect Gotham City. You can also find me on Beyond Salem, chapter two on Peacock app.
 We got a movie coming in 2024 and another project in 2023. And a lot more.
 Check out the red cats. Check out the red cats that Ryan and baby.
 Yes, we're going to have Christopher Sean flash it over. We'll get your SEO numbers up if nothing else.
 Brother, I really appreciate it. We're going to stay in touch. I know we will.
 You got big things coming for you. I know you do.
 Thank you, brother. Have a great day. Thank you.