S4E13: May Madness, Touch-Gate, Final Four Predictions

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<v Matt Houlihan>But we will be there.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We're gonna do it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We've got our one way, our one-way.

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<v Matt Houlihan>No.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Our one day.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We've got our one day trip.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We're never coming back.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We're not leaving.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Ball states burning UCLA to the ground.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We are so back for another episode of the Coach's Group Chat.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I'm Matt Houlihan.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I'm here with Chad Gordon, the volley dork, Ariel Houlihan, my wife.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Ew.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Daniel Rasai at Darkness and Light.

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<v Matt Houlihan>My work wife.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And that's better.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Ew.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We just had the world's greatest weekend of men's volleyball, I think.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I agree with you.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We've ever had.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Tournament expansion has done its job.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We got the matchups we were looking for.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Epic games across the board, minus Loyola and Long Beach.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So we'll take one dud for three pretty damn good games.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And I'm I'm coming off of a high, not gonna lie.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We said we needed to get right into the studio onto the couch to record this week's episode.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So uh so here we are.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>After the Irvine uh who did they play?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>UCLA game.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Uh I kept saying, like, man, when was the last time I saw a game like this?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And then I looked at Instagram and everybody was comparing it to Texas, AM, and Nebraska.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yep.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And I was like, you're right, it was literally in the women's season.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yep.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yep.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Just a back and forth battle.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>But yeah, I mean that's the thing, but I've never seen a game end and then end again, so that's different.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The there was a weekend full of controversy, and I think that's one of the reasons why it was so entertaining.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You had the Penn State versus Irvine in the in the what do you call that?

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<v Matt Houlihan>The playing game.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The most stoppage time I've ever seen in a fifth set ever.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It was insanity.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But number one, of course, not to not to toot our own horn, but we called it Pav Magic was alive and well.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Everyone thought the Penn State would be nothing there, and sure enough, they they came out swinging, forced the fifth.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The right side's a stud.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, freshman right side that got subbed in halfway through like set two or into set three, and he played great.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yep.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But they're up 6-3 off of a facial of Cameron Costi, and sure enough, the floodgates opened, and blood comes pouring.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And we've got a big old delay.

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<v Matt Houlihan>There's blood on the floor.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You got Niffin pulling his sport coat.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That was the next day.

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<v Matt Houlihan>No, no, he did it off.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Oh, he did it that day too.

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<v Chad Gordon>The second delay in the past.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Was it a different sport coat both a different night, or was it the same one?

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<v Matt Houlihan>I hope so.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Traveling sport coat.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That sport coat is a recurring theme.

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<v Matt Houlihan>If he does something else with that sport coat this upcoming week, Irvine's gonna win it all just because of the sport coat.

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<v Chad Gordon>Well, it's gonna be like when they check like the pitcher's glove for like, you know, some of that sticky substance or whatever.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They're like, what are you doing with that?

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<v Chad Gordon>What's going on?

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Chad Gordon>Just every every episode.

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<v Matt Houlihan>He literally draped his coat over Cameron's jersey on the second jersey when they put the blood jersey on him because they're like, I can't get blood on this because we don't have another jersey.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Does any other men's head coach wear a sport coat?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Your brother.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Other than Jared in men's division one, is there anybody else that does?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I think he's the only one.

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<v Chad Gordon>I mean, it was spra, I mean, for a long time.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>You're right, it was spra.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But I mean, that's you know, spra man himself even lost the coat.

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<v Matt Houlihan>He just went with the dress pants and the dress shirt.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I think that he's the only person.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And I respect that.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Interesting.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You gotta find your niche.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That's the only thing you wore.

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<v Matt Houlihan>My favorite thing.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Sorry, let's let's just hit the sport coat story a little bit here.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So he covers the he covers the jersey, make sure there's no blood there.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The next night against UCLA, they're like a delay for sweat on the floor, moisture, and he just pulls off the coat and he starts wiping his wiping the sweat with his coat.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Cardio biohazard, so whatever, it's fine.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The best part of all of it, because he wears this to every game, his son in the stands wears a matching miniature version.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's the cutest thing ever.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And in the in the when we played at Irvine this year in the high five line, his son always joins and he's right in front of NIF, and you're just high-fiving this little game.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's so good.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's so good.

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<v Chad Gordon>So the sport court has some magic to it for sure as well.

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<v Chad Gordon>Can we just talk about the biggest conspiracy about Cameron Cosby getting hit in the face?

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<v Chad Gordon>Yes, let's hear it.

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<v Chad Gordon>What I heard, I saw him lean into it.

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<v Chad Gordon>I think he I think he was game theorying it out, and I think he stepped into that pitch.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Knowing Cameron, I think that he probably did.

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<v Matt Houlihan>To stop the bleeding, he starts.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_05>Is this your second second try?

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<v Matt Houlihan>We're really gonna make that one.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh that wasn't appreciated on my on my breakdown, so I needed to try one more time, you know?

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<v Matt Houlihan>You gotta make sure we get it in there.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I just want all of Matt's followers to know that he really overanalyzes what hits and what does not.

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<v Chad Gordon>He's gonna go for two on this one.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Sometimes, you know, you think you think something's just hilarious, and I was cracking myself up with it, and then yeah, it just doesn't land quite as well.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And you're like, oh, maybe I'm just slightly autistic.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That's right.

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<v Matt Houlihan>All right, but let's let's get back to the the the meat of this.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The the weekend of controversy.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think that truly was one of the best parts of this entire dynamic was that there was just things that made people angry, right?

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<v Matt Houlihan>There was things that was just uh there was so much tension and friction.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You take it to even the Pepperdine ball state game, fifth set, ball state comes out hot, then Pepperdine comes back swinging, they push ahead, they had two match points, they were up 14 to 12.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And at one point, they had a challenge where it was uh their outside hitter went back, ripped a ball down middle back, and seemingly maybe we'll we'll we'll post it up here for you guys to take a look at it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Everybody who listens to this and watches this has seen this for sure.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Not that one, because that one, this one has gotten completely overshadowed by the UCLA, which we'll get to.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But yeah, ball state, it looks like there could be a touch on Patrick Rogers that probably that ball is spinning with a lot of a lot of RPMs, and then it it slows up a little bit.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And then it doesn't have as many spins anymore.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, but that gets called, it gets reviewed, they call it out.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Ball state ends up uh flipping flipping the script and they take it 16-14 on two Patrick Rogers aces.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So that was that was the second match of like some controversy.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And then Daniel, we have the controversy of all controversies.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We were Ariel and I were with uh the Caseres's, we were watching it, Chad was there as well with Lacey.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So we were together.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I want to know what was your what was your reaction watching this final few points of the the fifth set for Irvine and you say maybe maybe paint the picture for the for the stands here.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Where were you?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>What did it smell like?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>What were you eating?

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's like 9-11.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Everyone remembers where they were.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It wasn't like 9-11, but keep going.

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<v Daniel Rasay>I mean, we're we're in my house, we were all enthralled by the match.

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<v Daniel Rasay>My my two sons who are just getting into volleyball now were enjoying it and were hyped and cheering and into it.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And when UCLA won the match, we were like, it's over.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And NIF challenges, and we're like, oh, he has to because it's for the match.

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<v Daniel Rasay>He has to.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And they show the replay and we're like, oh yeah, no touch, game over.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And when the ref gestured touched, we all just gasped, like all of us, and we're just like, What?

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<v Daniel Rasay>And then we saw things kind of just crumble, and we were like, What?

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<v Daniel Rasay>And we were all freaking out because my kids know Cameron Costi.

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<v Daniel Rasay>They've spent a lot of time with him, and we were happy, but also very shocked by what had happened.

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<v Matt Houlihan>My goodness, yeah, we were we were in a fit.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I mean, maybe I'll get Chad said.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I have a question about that really quick.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um have your have you noticed that your kids have had a game yet where they like you know that they remember it?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Like, do they talk about any of the games that they grew up at or things that because I wonder at which point because every kid uh maybe they don't even know what it is yet, or you don't, but do you see a spark in kids when they see something that is like and I can imagine that game, people watching that game, it may have sparked something in kids being like, Whoa, like they won't forget watching that.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah, they watched a lot of Stanford matches, but that is probably the match that they will remember the most.

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<v Daniel Rasay>I guess.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Remember when this happened?

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<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah, yeah, they'll bring it up for sure in the future.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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<v Matt Houlihan>My childhood one was uh the black the blackout at Rec Hall or Irvine versus Penn State and the lights went off.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Oh yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think it was the national championship game.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Oh, yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And I was like, uh this is insanity, but the TV was still on, and so everyone's like spectating.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It was wild.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh all right, but we gotta bring it back to this one because uh Chad Chad's fiance tried to get up and leave, and I think a lot of people were probably like, oh yeah, it's over.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Well, you know multiple people that turned it off when like UCLA done turned off.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We got text messages to people being like, Yeah, I turned literally turned it off.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But I want Chad's perspective here, because I I I posted my my reaction live in person.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I mean, I'm sitting there.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, we're all in the I keep on forgetting that you were literally in that video too.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Sorry, I was in my own world.

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<v Chad Gordon>Clearly, yeah.

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<v Chad Gordon>No, um I I I don't fault the people who turned it off.

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<v Chad Gordon>I mean, like you see the replay, you're like, okay, cool, like, unless you wanted to watch them shake hands, which like sometimes you know, someone gonna hit somebody.

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<v Chad Gordon>We don't know.

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<v Chad Gordon>But yeah, I mean, this is my my question for all of this, right?

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<v Chad Gordon>Is like, why why don't we show this, you know, in in arena?

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<v Chad Gordon>Why isn't this you know confirmed by you know showing the replay camera to the audience at home on on TV?

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<v Chad Gordon>Um, because no angle that we saw, I mean, obviously, like you got video from Nicoba and some of these guys, like we didn't see anything that looked like a plausible touch.

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<v Chad Gordon>So I'm just I'm curious what what they saw because obviously the the call on the floor was nope, balls out, game over.

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<v Chad Gordon>You watch it from the end line, the sideline, it kind of looks like it sails past Cam Thorne.

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<v Chad Gordon>Obviously, there was something enough to overturn that in his in his mind, and I'd love to know.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, you know.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, it isn't an interesting one of why why don't you just show and and they do that for the women's uh replays in Stanford?

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<v Matt Houlihan>They actually show the replays.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They show the what they're watching, right?

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<v Matt Houlihan>They actually show the cameras so you can see, and it's like people are ooing and awing, like, no, no touch.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, it's engaging.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, that's and that's what you're looking for from a fan experience and from a TV experience too.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's like let us see what you're seeing, also, yep, so that we're not guessing like what's happening here.

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<v Chad Gordon>I mean, all these all these cameras are not like crazy high speed.

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<v Chad Gordon>That like this is a lower budget replay system, yes, right?

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<v Chad Gordon>When you could watch like VNL or the Olympics or whatever, like that's that's a lot of money to put in all those cameras, but you know, you can't have something that has the ability to overturn a match and then like kind of be like, I don't know, you know, it's probably like two-thirds, you know what, yeah good enough or whatever.

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<v Chad Gordon>So irrefutable evidence, I believe, is the standard.

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<v Chad Gordon>It didn't I felt like I could have refuted.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It was very refutable.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It was an interesting one.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We've seen a couple we've seen a couple of those those situations before, but man, that was on the timing on that one was insane.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The the thing that I was talking about, we were we had a tournament the next day, and I was talking with a bunch of coaches who had had watched the game.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like the just think of the feeling of what UCLA had there of just an absolute battle on your home court.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You you see the you see the final four on your in your home arena, and what has been an incredible season for you.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's like right there, and you have to get past this test, and you get it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Game over, done, elated, guard comes down, and then all of a sudden, a minute later, you gotta try and throw the guard back up, and Irvine now has this second wind of like we we lost, but now we're alive and we get to go again.

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<v Matt Houlihan>House money.

00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:16.080
<v Matt Houlihan>It's a exactly house money, let it rip.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And sure enough, like the next the next three points were so evident of they just they they had mentally had had cashed out.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I wouldn't say they checked out, I don't blame them.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like they could they just got cashed out, they put everything on the table and then lost it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's like how do you rebound from that?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It really showed how mental of a game volleyball is, like you just see it like on their everybody, the way that everybody reacted to all of it was like evident of the like you I don't know if you can prepare your team for a moment like that.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yep.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And then it gets posted by ESPN.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Man, man, men's volleyball is having a moment, guys.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Jordan Lucas and and referees making weird calls.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We've got we got great things going on.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's great for the game.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It sucks for people that are involved in some of the situations, but it is also you need that to happen.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yes, there's there's definitely drama, and now the table has been set for our final four, and I think it's time.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We've got we got we got to get into our predictions here, but before we do, we're we're gonna put a little challenge out for everyone.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We're gonna put our last chance bracket up online.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So if you want to go back, go back in and put your final four predictions in.

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<v Matt Houlihan>If you were one of the many people who either picked UCLA or Belmont, you can go back in and try again.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But we'll get ourselves into our predictions here.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh and we're gonna we're good going on.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So anybody that has a perfect bracket for men's?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, there's nine perfect brackets remaining for men.

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<v Matt Houlihan>In our women's bracket, quick shout out for the women's speech volleyball.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh, we had two perfect brackets that uh that picked everything correct for the women's speech volleyball, where UCLA defeated Stanford in three to win the national championship this year for women's speech.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So yeah, there's still still a couple remaining.

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<v unknown>Cool.

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<v Matt Houlihan>No, I don't think there's any ball state champions, though.

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<v Matt Houlihan>No one has ball state as the champion of the remaining perfect brackets.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Really?

00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:12.399
<v Matt Houlihan>Yes.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Not even the Fair Vest guy.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, I I believe he submitted, but he did not get a perfect bracket.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think he had UCLA against ball state.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Got it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So but we'll see.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We'll see.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh Chad, let's go down, uh let's go down to you here for your predictions for the final four.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Who do you guys think?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Who do you got as the as the prevailing champion?

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<v Chad Gordon>Oh man.

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<v Chad Gordon>So I've got I've got Long Beach coming out of these two, I think.

00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.039
<v Chad Gordon>Um I think they are they're peaking at the right time right now.

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<v Chad Gordon>I think McRae as a first year head coach has done a really nice job keeping that ship steady and improving all year.

00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:50.799
<v Arielle Houlihan>I think he's the best dressed head coach.

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<v Chad Gordon>Once Nip takes off his jacket, you know, sure.

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<v Chad Gordon>Absolutely, yeah.

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<v Chad Gordon>Um and then you're just you're in this self-fulfilling prophecy of, you know, the team that won it wins it again, you know, back to back.

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<v Chad Gordon>So I think I think they're playing their best ball right now.

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<v Chad Gordon>They've they've had Hawaii's number as of late.

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<v Chad Gordon>And then I think once they get past Hawaii, I think it's gonna be I I'm taking Irvine to get past Ball State.

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<v Chad Gordon>And they've had Irvine's number I think basically all season, but they beat him three times, right?

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<v Chad Gordon>They had him in the back to back and then they played him in the first round of Big West.

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<v Chad Gordon>I think four in a row.

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<v Chad Gordon>So I'm on uh I'm on the it's not the dirtbags, but what are they sharks?

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, whatever.

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<v Chad Gordon>I'm on Long Beach State for that.

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<v Chad Gordon>Fair enough.

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<v Chad Gordon>All right, AG.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm taking Irvine Texas AM, Irvine.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Once you get through that big one, I think it's a little bit of a Morrison.

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<v Chad Gordon>What controversy will Irvine need to overcome?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Multiple.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Patrick Rogers, controversial.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Uh then the Big West, controversial.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Will Cameron bleed?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Probably.

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<v Matt Houlihan>What's Nif gonna do with his jacket?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Take it off.

00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:06.320
<v Matt Houlihan>He might light it on fire.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Who knows?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um I think that Irvine is uh like believing freight train right now.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And I think it's hard to beat a believing freight train when all of the teams are kind of in a similar nobody's better than anybody.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I also think that anybody could take it.

00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:33.200
<v Arielle Houlihan>Like I think that this is all four teams are this is anybody's you can put two good matches together, you're gonna win a national championship.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I don't think there's anybody in your way that's like an absolute boulder of a team.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Um Irvine's definitely still playing with house money, though, I would agree.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yes, and I I just think that they probably have some composure after the weekend that they had.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So, and I want them to win.

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<v Chad Gordon>Personal biases.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, like I want them to win.

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<v Chad Gordon>I'm in it for the polls, you know.

00:16:56.559 --> 00:16:57.840
<v Chad Gordon>I need I need my guy voites.

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<v Chad Gordon>That's true, that's true.

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<v Chad Gordon>Give me some more bows down here.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That's true.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Speaking of personal biases, let's go to our Hawaiian correspondent live from the beaches of Honolulu.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The beaches of Hawaii.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Of course, I've got Hawaii.

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<v Daniel Rasay>I gotta choose Hawaii or else they may take our national championship away again.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Oh, yeah.

00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:19.440
<v Matt Houlihan>They're gonna come for your ring.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Can't do it again.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Hawaii fans travel well.

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<v Daniel Rasay>I think they're going to fill that place up as as much as they can.

00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:33.119
<v Daniel Rasay>They are fueled by Gayek Shock Us Down.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Just looking at comment sections from all of my Hawaii family and friends, it's it's in there and people are fired up about it.

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<v Daniel Rasay>So they're gonna bring extra heat uh for that match.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And um yeah, I think watching uh them against USC, they you know, they they played pretty consistently.

00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:58.079
<v Daniel Rasay>Um Roar money from the service line.

00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.000
<v Daniel Rasay>I think he had seven aces in that match.

00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:03.759
<v Daniel Rasay>So um, you know, I've loved what he's done all season.

00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:05.440
<v Daniel Rasay>He's been pretty consistent for them as well.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And so um yeah, we've got a win.

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<v Daniel Rasay>There you go.

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<v Matt Houlihan>All right, well, I'll round, I'll round it out because I've got I've got I've got my pick, everyone.

00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:15.519
<v Matt Houlihan>I've got my pick.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh my Mastrodomus, my Mastrodomus pick is going to go to the Cardinals.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Ball State is who I'm gonna go with.

00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:30.319
<v Matt Houlihan>And this podcast knows, if you've been a loyal listener, you you know this is a Patrick Rogers house.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I'm a big fan.

00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:37.519
<v Matt Houlihan>The first time, first surprise edit I ever made was was was with Patrick Rogers as the uh the starting point.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh the boy can just ball.

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<v Matt Houlihan>He didn't have his greatest match against uh Pepperdine, but you could tell the gamer that he is by the way that he finished it, two walk-off aces.

00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:55.119
<v Matt Houlihan>And I just love the the story, the collision course of what I see of ball state versus Hawaii.

00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:57.279
<v Matt Houlihan>Ball State versus Donan.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I don't know what went on there, what transpired.

00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:07.200
<v Matt Houlihan>It's all uh it's a veil of mystery to me, but I just know that there's gonna be some fireworks if and when that happens.

00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:11.680
<v Matt Houlihan>And I feel I feel like ball state is also on the house money train right now.

00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:13.200
<v Matt Houlihan>Everyone has kind of counted them out.

00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:19.599
<v Matt Houlihan>They're the underdog, they've got the chip on their shoulder, and the way that they played against Pepperdine was very impressive.

00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:23.440
<v Chad Gordon>I mean, to get to get hit by that serve and then rattle off two aces.

00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:24.400
<v Chad Gordon>I mean, come on.

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<v Matt Houlihan>To be locked in, that's huge.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Hey, yeah, it was literally that that could have been the the biggest controversy of it all, uh, but it got completely overshadowed.

00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:40.000
<v Matt Houlihan>But at the same time, it's it's a testament to kind of the personalities that go to ball state.

00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:49.599
<v Matt Houlihan>There's there's definitely a degree of kind of the grittiness, the guys that aren't your it's not a blue chip recruit land like the UCLA's or the USCs.

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<v Chad Gordon>Sean Kelly was not deciding between ball state and UCLA.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, that's what I heard.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yes, exactly.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But they have proven this year in particular, right, with a roster that last year lost in the first round of the Miva playoffs, which was pretty much the exact same roster, looking real nice.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And they have found they have found their groove, they can bring heat from the service line, they've got multiple pins that can score, and their middles are effective.

00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:31.519
<v Matt Houlihan>So I think it's it's one of those ones where if if you got a fur vest guy gets fired up on the stands, they're they're probably not gonna travel as well as the Hawaii's and the Long Beaches and the Irvines that are are local and close, but uh the crowd that does go, it's not a it's not the size of the dog.

00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:34.880
<v Matt Houlihan>It's the size of the fight.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And my boys are gonna fight.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So ball state and five.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Here we go.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay, so we're split.

00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:45.119
<v Arielle Houlihan>So all of us are split.

00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:46.319
<v Matt Houlihan>A full split.

00:20:46.559 --> 00:20:48.720
<v Arielle Houlihan>So that somebody that's good for us.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I know it's great for us.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, because that means that somebody on this podcast is gonna be right, and we're gonna be like, man, we predicted all of these.

00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:56.160
<v Matt Houlihan>Well, hey, there's three of us that are gonna be wrong.

00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:58.480
<v Matt Houlihan>We're posting all four of these are gonna get posted.

00:20:58.559 --> 00:21:05.359
<v Matt Houlihan>So one of us is gonna be right and looking like a genius, but uh all I know is my I'm high risk, high reward over here.

00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:07.519
<v Matt Houlihan>So that's okay.

00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:12.960
<v Matt Houlihan>Oh, we had a we had a great shot on the on the Irvine call, Irvine upset, the outside smoke.

00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:15.680
<v Matt Houlihan>We we know ball, guys, we know what we're doing over here.

00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:18.079
<v Matt Houlihan>If we bet on every horse, I'd like our chances.

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<v Matt Houlihan>This is great.

00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.319
<v Matt Houlihan>It's almost like we should probably go and watch this match in person.

00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:25.039
<v Arielle Houlihan>I think that we should do a team off site.

00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:28.640
<v Arielle Houlihan>And also our babysitter just texted us that she can watch the kids.

00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:29.519
<v Arielle Houlihan>So let's go.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Can do that.

00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:32.240
<v Arielle Houlihan>We just need to find our tickets.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Fun fact, guys.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We actually are coming.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We are coming to the national championship.

00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:38.079
<v Matt Houlihan>We're taking the pod on the road.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We are not going to the semifinals, though.

00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:41.440
<v Matt Houlihan>Why is that, Matt?

00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:44.079
<v Matt Houlihan>Because tryouts is always on that weekend.

00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:47.119
<v Matt Houlihan>That's why I'm actually normally it's the national championship is always on tryouts.

00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:52.160
<v Matt Houlihan>So the fact that tri the championship got bumped back to Monday is it's great for business.

00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:53.279
<v Matt Houlihan>We love that.

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<v Matt Houlihan>As much as we'd love to be.

00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:57.440
<v Arielle Houlihan>I texted Nev and said I asked Matt to cancel tryouts and he said no.

00:21:57.519 --> 00:21:59.039
<v Arielle Houlihan>So see you on Monday.

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<v unknown>Yes.

00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:01.200
<v Matt Houlihan>But we will be there.

00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:02.240
<v Matt Houlihan>We're gonna do it.

00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:04.960
<v Matt Houlihan>We've got our one way, our one-way, no.

00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:06.079
<v Matt Houlihan>Our one day.

00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:07.119
<v Matt Houlihan>We've got our one day trip.

00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:09.359
<v Matt Houlihan>We're never coming back.

00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:10.480
<v Matt Houlihan>We're never coming back.

00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:11.680
<v SPEAKER_01>We're not leaving.

00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:14.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Ball states burning UCLA to the ground.

00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:18.240
<v Matt Houlihan>But if you're there, come on down.

00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:20.960
<v Matt Houlihan>And if you got tickets, let us know because we don't have those yet.

00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:24.079
<v Matt Houlihan>We're still working on the getting in the building part.

00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:25.839
<v Arielle Houlihan>We never have tickets to anything.

00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:26.720
<v Arielle Houlihan>We just figure it out.

00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:27.599
<v Matt Houlihan>Serendipity.

00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:30.799
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, serendipity is the is the way of the world.

00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:32.079
<v Matt Houlihan>It's men's volleyball.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It'll be fine.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Alright, can we get a I we I have nothing else on the docket other than Chad's wedding Wupdate?

00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:38.799
<v Arielle Houlihan>Oh.

00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:40.640
<v Matt Houlihan>Oh, we've skipped this the last couple times.

00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:41.759
<v Arielle Houlihan>I have a wedding update.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Nice.

00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:42.160
<v Matt Houlihan>Oh.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The Bachelorette party has been planned.

00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:44.480
<v Chad Gordon>Huge.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And I sent a group chat out to the Bachelorette party attendees last night, getting everybody organized and all together.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And uh that's it, Chad.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Take it away.

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<v Chad Gordon>No movement on anything.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah.

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<v Chad Gordon>Oh man.

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<v Chad Gordon>It's it's it's sad.

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<v Chad Gordon>We want we want it to go a little faster than this.

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<v Chad Gordon>And uh it's becoming uh a little bit of an irritating.

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<v Chad Gordon>It's hurry up and wait time.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yep.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, we're waiting on the hurry up part.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um so you guys have the place that you want, you just are having a hard time getting it finalized.

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<v Chad Gordon>We need them to stop communicating by carrier pigeon.

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<v Chad Gordon>Because the birds go in it's a full like trans cont it's just it's on the other coast, and it's just these birds taking a lot of breaks.

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<v Chad Gordon>Slow ass birds.

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<v Chad Gordon>So maybe, maybe for the finale we'll have we'll have an update for.

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<v Matt Houlihan>If anyone has a wedding venue in New York City that they would like to be incredible, they'd like to offer up as a sacrifice for ball state.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Please DM us at the coaches group chat.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, okay, well, thanks for listening, everybody.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The penultimate.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Pen ultimate, that's right.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We'll have one more, we'll have one more roundup episode after the national championship, but man oh man, it's been a great season.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I hope I I I just hope the semifinals are 10% as entertaining as those quarters were because I was I was in volleyball heaven.

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<v Chad Gordon>Are you are you ready to start a fight like to make somebody bleed?

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<v Chad Gordon>Like if there's somebody has to be able to get it.

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<v Chad Gordon>If we have a clean fight, I guess.