Our Experience With The Mystery Dog Illness

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(upbeat music) Hello all Star listeners and welcome to another episode of the Veterinary Round Table, a very special episode'cause it is our Christmas episode.

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(baby crying) The podcast where we answer your veterinary related questions while having some fun along the way.

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If you enjoyed today's episode, be sure to leave us a review on your podcast provider of choice and if you have any feedback to offer to improve the veterinary round table, let us know.

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Speaking of reviews.

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- I'm gonna say there's no hair.

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- Feedback. - Wait.

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You're gonna say there's no what?

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- Hammer.

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- Oh, oh.

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- Oh!(baby crying)- Way to bring the hammer.

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- A magical bag bag there.

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- I know, it's like, oh nice.

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Okay. - It's a little hammer.

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- We have a legit hammer here.

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- A legit hammer.

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- Yeah, so then we can hammer home.

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- Now we just need a hammer in home.

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- We're hammering home those reviews.

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Get us those reviews on your podcast provider of choice and specifically spotify Ian Apple Podcasts.

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(laughing) Oh no, it is a pretty small hammer, but we're still taking it.

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- I don't wanna break things.

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- We're taking it because we need some shoes to know that algorithm. - I'm not a good person.

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- Yeah. - I know.

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- You did remember, I can keep you in your podcast.

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- It's a morning podcast, that's what our listeners know.

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- It is morning podcast.

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- It is seven, four years.

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- We have never done a podcast this year.

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- So yeah, let's see if the listeners can tell the difference between a morning podcast and an evening podcast.

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- I have one more thing to kick start the morning.

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- Tell me what. - Oh, and it's interesting.

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- I am. - This is press O, shock.

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- I got from her bag.

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Her married partner's bag. - Probably yes.

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- Secret bag.

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- Canada Dry G-D-A.

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- Oh my god.

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- Oh yes, good thinking.

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- Did you bring ice?

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- Yes, I was, could you get your magic bag?

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- But it's cool, it's cool.

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- It's gonna go!- Snowcuff, wait a go, Devon.

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- Oh, cans.

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- Are you a morning person?

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- Yeah.

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- Okay, so cans of dry.

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- Can you dry those with your sweater too?

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- Yeah, because you know, Canada Dry has like, you know, they have holiday recipes.

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- Do they?

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- I think so. - So it goes with all of our shirts.

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- Yes.

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- Don't they have a cranberry one?

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- They have a cranberry one?

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- Yeah, let's hot that bottle.

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- Yeah, pop that bottle open.

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Listen to that sound.

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- Listen to that sound.

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- This is a major Canada Dry for supporting this.

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- Ready? - A little more.

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- I guess I can't say that.

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- Oh, listen to that.

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Smell that ginger ale.

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I love it, too funny, terrific.

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- Wow, can that say it, my brother?

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- Does that taste good with coffee?

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We'll find out.

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- I love it, it's a taste good with my smoothie.

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- Gitch rails like your go-to for anything, really.

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- Yeah, it really is.

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- I used to not be thinking this.

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- It is cold, I love it.

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Yeah, when you get sick, when you need a mixer thingy for a drink, when you just need a refreshing drink.

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- Here goes some pop.

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Or soda, that's another great question for the listeners.

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- Oh.

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- Or some poppers is soda.

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Okay, now I've got two drinks.

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- You got two drinks. - Double fisting.

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- It's a tubular right there, you know.

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- I think I've got two drinks. - Hit the spot.

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Way to go, Devon. - It's soda.

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- That's hilarious. - I just ate a coffee and then I did a dry for all those listeners.

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It's not that bad.

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- It's not that bad. - It's not that bad.

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- It's fine. - Extra kick.

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- It's fine.

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I won't do it on a regular basis. - Oh, that's crisp.

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- The crisp.

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- That's delicious.

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(laughs)- Okay, so we're at 124 on Spotify, 37 on Apple.

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- Great. - So, you know what?

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I'm gonna come up with something crazy.

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Like if we get to like, I don't know, 50 on Apple that does that actually something.

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- Why me?

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- I don't know, because you're the youngest.

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(laughs)- Yeah, that's true. - Thank you.

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- You're the happy person. - You're the happy person.

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I'm tarnished by life.

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- Anyone who's a morning person.

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- Thank you, thanks, that's it.

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(laughs)- We're tarnished by life.

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- So, I don't know, Duckwell, we can come up with something.

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- Okay. - That like, if we get to 50 Apple podcasts and like, - Which makes it so.

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- 150 on Spotify.

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- Okay.

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- I don't remember last time's numbers either.

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Or it was low 30s and it was something else.

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- 124s a lot. - Yeah.

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- I'm looking forward to it.

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- But we have to think of something very creative.

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Like, we put it in an outfit, we have to do so.

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I don't know.

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- She has to talk in the accent, but.

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- Accent the whole podcast.

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Or she has to go do interviews.

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- Oh, no, no, no.

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- At like, I don't know, out and about in town.

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- Oh yeah, like run on the street.

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- Asking specific questions.

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- How like our myth buster is pretty good.

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- Yes, 'cause like, myth buster.

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- Oh, well, go look at our page.

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- Okay. - See which thing.

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- We'll come up with something.

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I know you're excited now.

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Okay.

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(laughs)- Don't let us down, give us reviews.

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- Yeah. - Okay.

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All right, once we know, then we'll come back with the idea and then we'll see what happens.

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- Yeah, that sounds good.

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- Okay, so you guys talked about it being morning.

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How's everybody doing?

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- I could have slept a little longer this morning.

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- No lie, I could have too.

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- Same. - Like, I was sleeping pretty good.

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- I snoozed for 15 minutes.

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- Do you know, it is hard to snooze and then wake up.

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- Does that torture?

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- Yeah, it's horrible.

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- It's supposed to be horrible on your body because you, it does what?

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- It gives me hope.

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- Okay, but it takes more minutes.

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- Yes, but your body like resets every single time.

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- It's like supposed to be very stressful on your body to do that.

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I'll come back with a science on that too.

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- It's stressful, you know what I think is the worst?

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I have like an internal alarm and I wake up at like 4.30 or 4.45 every morning.

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- Right.

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- But then I actually don't get out of bed till 5.30.

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So like that hour that I fall back asleep was like the best sleep I get all night and then I have to get up an hour later.

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- It is that.

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- I think that's really annoying.

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- I think that's really annoying.

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- I think that's really annoying.

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- I think I'm gonna snooze my alarm.

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- Yeah, but then isn't it really hard to get up?

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- You're sleeping so hard.

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- Yeah.

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But I was looking forward to this.

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- So then you got right up.

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- Yeah, so ginger ale.

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- Inner hammer.

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- You did a great job remembering.

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- Thank you, sir.

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- I'm so proud of you.

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- I got out of the shower last night and I was like,"Shut, I need a kitchen rail so I ran down to the gas station." I got some.

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- They had ginger ale?

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- Yeah, it's a really nice gas station.

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- Okay.

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- I love that place, C.J.'s.

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- Oh, that is a nice gas station.

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- Well, it's not nice, but they have so much.

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- Oh, but they're like, yeah, it's like a little convenience store.

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- Yeah, no, it's great, but yeah.

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- We have like a caterer.

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They mark up the prices because by the harbour, it's like the harbor market.

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But yeah, that's right, a question from my house.

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- So it's really nice.

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- Jacob makes cookies a lot and usually we're out of like vanilla or something so he just literally walks to the, walks across the street and gets something.

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- That's convenient.

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- Very convenient.

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- It's stopping go through everything.

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- That's right.

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That's right, stopping there.

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- Oh, oh, okay.

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- Oh, I guess we should.

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- I guess we should.

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- We thought that was really funny.

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Duckwell, why don't you fill everybody in on the Canada dry?

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Why Devin pulled Canada dry out of the magic bag?

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- I don't remember the exact comment, the words.

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So I'm gonna need some help from that.

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But basically Canada dry supports us, follows us.

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Shouldn't say support, follows us.

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- Follows us.

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- It's the same as supporting us.

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- Follows us.

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- And they commented on one of our tiktoks.

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- Tiktoks, tiktoks.

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Yeah.

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- I don't remember everything.

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I'm trying to find it in moment.

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- It was, oh, it was on your myth busters.

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- Oh.

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- It was on one of your myth busters about, do dogs sweat like humans, the sweat one?

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And they commented on it and said, the more you know.

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- The more you know.

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- The green heart emoji in the, emoji with like the glasses looking, or looking one.

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- There you go.

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So we obviously honed in on that and we were like, this is awesome.

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- This is so fun.

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- We love those look Canada dry.

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- Yeah, yeah.

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Funny story relating to the sweating.

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I was doing, or helping with the nail trim yesterday and the dog's paw was staying, or like laying on my leg.

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And afterward it took its paw off and there was a pop-print.

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Like a sweat pop-print.

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- Oh, a sweaty paw.

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It was so interesting.

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- The sweat was so interesting.

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- I was so random.

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- What went on with the sweating?

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- Oh, I was like, can I dry not?

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- Well, I'm,- But you talked about sweating.

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- Yeah, I guess so.

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- So this is all fair game.

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- But yes, anyway, they supported our clip, our social media presence.

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So we're supporting them.

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- Yes.

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- Cheers.

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- Cheers, a drive.

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- Thanks for working.

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- Come and get me a cool.

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- Thanks for the comment and the support, cheers.

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- You're a little bit showing.

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- Okay.

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I expect magic bag, bag next week.

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- And he's gonna make a weekly appearance.

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- Yeah, yeah, stuff.

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- Now I never know what's gonna come out of that thing.

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I'm pretty pumped.

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- All right, I think we are good on the intro.

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We're all just doing a,- Mm-hmm.

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- It's a pretty good one.

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She's doing great.

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Eyesbreakers, what's something you look forward to every year?

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This question is optimistic, I love it.

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- Okay.

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- Is optimistic question.

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- That's true.

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- You wanna go first?

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- Sure.

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- I'm forward to traveling.

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- Yeah.

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- I plan, or I try to plan a trip, a year.

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And I put a lot of work into one trip and I do a lot of research and then I enjoy the trip and it pays off.

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- That's awesome.

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- That's cool and you go the same time every year?

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- It keeps landing on the same time.

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Like.

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- Thank you, Harrison.

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- Thank you.

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Yeah, not on purpose, but it's typically in the fall.

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- Cool.

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- Nice.

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- That means I wear a hard wear, pays off.

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- I start planning in April and then.

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- Okay, yeah.

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- That's great.

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- So a lot of work into projects.

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- It is, come to life.

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- There's a lot that happens in a year that I like.

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I really like Christmas time.

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It just makes me happy.

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I like the decorations and the lights outside and family time.

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I'm at any holiday, I guess any big holiday.

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I get excited for it because I like my family.

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- 'Cause you like family?

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- I like getting out of my family.

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I would say mine's similar to that from this standpoint of like I love summer because I have a chance to be around all of the boys.

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- Mm-hmm.

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- So.

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- Yeah.

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I was gonna say I look forward to summer just 'cause of the weather.

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- Yeah.

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- I hate the cold.

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- I'd much rather be in the warm weather, yeah.

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- Yeah.

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- I don't like, so if I could live somewhere where it was like 75, 70 all year round, I'd be a happy camper.

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- I could.

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- I would live somewhere warm and then visit the cold.

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'Cause I do like winter like around the holidays.

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But I don't have to live here in it.

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- I don't, I wanna go somewhere where it doesn't snow or like I'll move to Tennessee because when it does snow everything shuts down because they don't have power trucks.

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So I find that.

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- It is very true.

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- 'Cause I don't drive in the snow.

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Last year I didn't drive a single time in the snow.

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- Yeah.

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- Jacob either drove me or my parents drove like, I don't drive in the snow.

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- Well when I was in school at University of Tennessee, there was the major snow storm and it was like 16 inches of snow and it literally shut everything down for a week.

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It was so much snow there just not.

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And like the ramp getting off to school, like people were sliding because they do not do salt trucks or any of that stuff.

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- Oh my gosh.

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- So it was the best because it looked like this winter wonderland and of course you have the mountains.

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I mean and everything and so it was like, but I don't think it snowed that much since then.

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That's how many years like, like it doesn't do it every.

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- What was the last time it snowed all year?

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- I know.

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- I don't think it like it's still in the 30s.

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- I'm more into like 12 to 14 inches.

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I wanna wipe Christmas.

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- Like a nice snow this.

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- Christmas is too early in our winter season to get snow.

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- 'Cause our snow doesn't hit like January from a different day.

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- I'm not sure about Jesus.

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- Jesus come on.

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- There was one day in fourth year of at school where I mean you go rain or shine, essentially you have to be at school, right?

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But there was one day of the year where it was so cold.

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I don't remember the negative, but it was like negative something and they didn't allow us to go in'cause then the windshield made it even colder.

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I don't know, I don't remember.

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I feel like negative 20 or something crazy.

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But yeah, I'd have to go in fourth year, clinical year, which is when you literally are there all the time.

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And it was like the biggest celebration ever.

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So Charles and I had like a pot of boiling water and went outside and did one of those things where you throw it in the air and it froze.

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We have video of it just froze 'cause it was so cold.

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- Oh my gosh.

00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:37.799
- It was a good day. - It was a school too.

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It was my surgery day and it was the rose or frozen and the plows were not yet and I slid all the way through an intersection and did like a full 180 and just kept going, luckily nobody was coming.

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Oh, but I had, yep.

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Oh gosh, yeah.

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It's actually fun.

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- You don't drive anymore.

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- Yeah, no kidding.

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- Well, and I've also been an accident on ice, so I don't do all the ice.

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- Yeah, ice is scary.

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Okay, if you had to eat a crann, what color would you choose?

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- Do you say crayon or crayon?

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- Crayon. - Crayon.

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- Crayon. - Crayon.

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- Crayon. - Yeah, I say crayon.

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- Crayon. - I see it.

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- Crayon. - Crayon.

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Crayon's on the ear.

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Crayon. - Crayon.

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- Crayon.

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- Sounds like a atomic, like,- Yeah. - A little bit or something.

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- Why did they spell like that then?

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(laughs) Maybe we should look up in the dictionary, the phonetics.

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- Mm-hmm.

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- Another time.

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Okay, well the actual question.

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- Okay, so what would you, what color?

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- They all taste the same.

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Mac and cheese. - You know?

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I'm pretty sure there's a mac and cheese crayon.

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- Well, crayon. - No, there is not.

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- You're just different. - Yeah.

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- There is not a mac and cheese crayon.

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- That makes sense of vomit.

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- I remember that from my childhood.

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- Waxy mac and cheese.

00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:42.960
- Oh. - Oh.

00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:43.960
- That's because there's flavor crayons.

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- That is, no.

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(laughs)- They do make those smelly markers.

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- Yeah.

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- Yeah.

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- They're not crayons.

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- They're not crayons.

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- I don't like what they smell.

00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:52.960
- That's what I'm saying.

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- A crayon. - A crayon.

00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:54.639
- Like, you're just, you guys.

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- You just based off color.

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It's all wax.

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- Or the taste. - Or the taste. - I love you had to eat it.

00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:03.679
Maybe it would be more appealing if it was a certain color.

00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:04.679
Like, I don't know, cherry or grape or something.

00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:05.679
- Cheese. - For cheese.

00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:06.679
- Cheese. - I was thinking grape.

00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:07.679
- A cheesy crayon.

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(laughs)- That's just gonna say.

00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:10.679
- Talks about these crayons.

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- Why not just chocolate?

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- Like, it must be because they're soft or something.

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- I think I'm gonna go take a light blue.

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- Take a light blue.

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- You're going light blue?

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- Yeah, I don't know if that's like that.

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- What does that remind you of?

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That you would eat light blue crayons?

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- It just like, the lighter the color, I feel like the less bad it will be.

00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:25.960
- It's light blue.

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- I don't know. - And they blue.

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- It could be like blue raspberry sucker or--- I love blue raspberry candy.

00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:33.399
- Oh, cotton candy, yeah.

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That's true.

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- It's not gonna taste like that, but you can tell yourself.

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- Okay, I thought we had to pick a legit color.

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Is it not one?

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- Mac and cheese is on the j--- I said light blue.

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- Oh my gosh. - I've heard that from my childhood.

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- That is crazy.

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- Yeah.

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- So I thought we were going off of their name and this is like what you would do.

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- Interesting.

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- Okay.

00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:53.320
- Is there any other food related crayons?

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- Probably.

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- There is a one up. - No, let's do another one.

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- The underlying.

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- It's not a big, the last candy line.

00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:01.600
- You know that's true?

00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:02.759
- What? - Okay.

00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:03.759
- Are the crayons or something?

00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:06.639
- No! - No, no, you said it, I was just going.

00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:08.440
- I would pick grape, I'd keep it very simple.

00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:09.559
- Grape. - Yeah.

00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:11.679
- Or orange, I like, I like citrusy thing.

00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:12.519
- Yep.

00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:14.279
- Damn.

00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:17.240
- Also, you know what? - I was just mac and cheese.

00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:21.720
- Wait a second, did we even say that you guys were all, we were all wearing Christmas sweaters?

00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:22.559
- No, I didn't.

00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:33.919
- I was like, oh, we're just, oh, yeah, they're gonna watch and watch the video. - You gotta come check out the YouTube, whatever, because everybody's got a Christmas sweater on, socks, I have my fancy Christmas shoes.

00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:35.679
So. - I think the one time I don't wear fluffy socks.

00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:37.000
- Looks.

00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:38.279
- Oh, I love it.

00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:39.120
- I love it.

00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.000
- Courtney has a very cool Christmas sweater that you can put a beverage in the front of her.

00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:44.200
- I don't know if it's a fridge, it's a fridge.

00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:45.679
- Of which she has a ginger ray.

00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:47.440
- That's what he cares about, it's a mandelo.

00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:48.519
- We gotta go dry.

00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:49.600
- Yeah.

00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:51.679
- I have a sweater on from my mother.

00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:54.120
It's classic itchy wool type.

00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.240
- It looks like a mom sweater.

00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:58.360
- It's very itchy.

00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.000
But shout out to my mom, thanks mom.

00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:01.840
- Way to go.

00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:04.200
- My sweater has a cat with a matching sweater on it.

00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:06.159
- Oh my God.

00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:07.679
- Oh my gosh, that's super cute.

00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:09.360
I didn't realize the cat had a matching sweater.

00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:10.759
- Yeah, that's a little overweight.

00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:13.840
- My sweater is from Christmas vacation.

00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:15.600
- What does it say?

00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:16.440
- I don't know.

00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:17.440
- I don't know, Margot.

00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:18.279
- Oh, nice.

00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:19.120
- Nice.

00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:20.960
- Nice, this guy didn't get it when they saw it.

00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:21.799
- I got it.

00:15:21.799 --> 00:15:22.639
- Me and Harrison didn't.

00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:24.440
- Harrison and Courtney.

00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:25.279
- Wow.

00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:26.279
- Why is the carpet wet?

00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:27.919
- Well, the turntables.

00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:28.759
- Yes.

00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:29.600
- What?

00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:30.759
- I don't get that.

00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:31.679
- On the table's turn?

00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:33.240
- No, why the carpet's wet.

00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:34.799
- Why is the carpet wet, Todd?

00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:35.639
- Isn't it in the movie?

00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:36.480
- Yes.

00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:37.320
- I don't know, Margot.

00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:38.320
That's the part of this sweater.

00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:44.600
- I get that now, but as we said it, I was like,"Morgot, I get that now."- Oh, you have a Christmas shoe vantillum.

00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:45.440
- Yes, I was.

00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:47.279
- Did you say that?

00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:48.679
- Margot and Christmas shoes.

00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:50.360
- I have snowflakes on.

00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:52.519
- Oh, duck wall.

00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:54.440
- I brought all your socks or lame.

00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:55.440
- I brought all that.

00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:57.200
- You don't have socks like antlers and...

00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:58.720
- You don't have to put your socks on.

00:15:58.720 --> 00:15:59.960
- I just said that.

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(laughs)- I literally was like the one time I don't wear a fuzzy sock.

00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:05.360
- I'm here today.

00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:07.600
- We are, it's like a late 50s.

00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:10.519
- All right, what subjects should be taught in school, but aren't?

00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:11.440
- How to be an adult?

00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:12.279
- Yeah.

00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:13.120
- Okay, that was your life.

00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:13.960
- You're on like, whoa.

00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:15.759
- Taxes.

00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:16.600
- Taxes.

00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:17.440
- Bang house.

00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:18.840
- Being an adult once again.

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How to be an adult?

00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:22.759
How to live your life when you're tired?

00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:23.840
- How to be an adult?

00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:25.399
Wow, you guys really...

00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:27.200
- I'm truly like high school.

00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.879
I mean, yeah, there's stuff like you learn, but like...

00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:30.960
- No, it's all pointless.

00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:31.960
- That's what I'm saying.

00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:32.799
- It's all...

00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:38.879
- What I say all the time is high school gave me my husband because I met him there, and then all started because I interned in high school.

00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:40.440
That's the only two things I got at high school.

00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:41.279
- Thanks.

00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:42.799
- I got all sorts of big things.

00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:43.639
- I know.

00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:44.480
- No husband.

00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:53.519
(laughs)- Yeah, I, you know, as I'm in school with my fifth son trying to figure out why it matters that I'm learning about the Roman Empire.

00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:58.440
(laughs) I am like, this is absolutely like ridiculous.

00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:00.600
Or calculus.

00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:02.519
- Well, I'm like, I can see math as...

00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:03.519
- Well, math, yes.

00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:05.359
- But like, they're a math, but like...

00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:06.200
- Certain math.

00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:09.440
- I mean, if you're going into a career, I guess, but like in college, learn that.

00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:12.799
- And you can just pick when you're 10, if you're gonna be an engineer.

00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:17.000
- But like they've gotten rid of a lot of the trade stuff, which I think was,- Yes.

00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:18.160
- It would be really helpful.

00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:23.359
Like, you know, when we were in school, there was you could take shop, which was like cars and all kinds of stuff.

00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:26.440
You could do wood shop, which is like, you know,- Yeah, I'm stuck with that.

00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:29.400
- That's how I learned how to use all kinds of stuff that I use now.

00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:30.240
- Mm-hmm.

00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:31.079
- Home-eck or what?

00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:36.079
- Home-eck, we did home-eck and I made a snap off sweatpants.

00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:36.920
- Oh, wow.

00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:37.759
- Wow.

00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:38.599
- Yes.

00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:39.440
- That's funny.

00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:41.240
- 'Cause I've played basketball in the next grade.

00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:44.480
We made my teammate and I made pull off sweatpants.

00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:45.319
- Yeah.

00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:46.160
- And everything.

00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:47.000
- It was so cool.

00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.480
- It was probably home-eck or something.

00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:52.480
I don't know what class it was, but we had to carry on an egg for a week.

00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:53.319
- Oh yeah.

00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:54.160
- Is it a baby?

00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:55.000
- An egg.

00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:55.839
- Yeah, that's like a life skill.

00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:56.680
- You could keep it a lot.

00:17:56.680 --> 00:17:57.680
- Like a life, whatever.

00:17:57.680 --> 00:17:58.759
- You have to keep it alive.

00:17:58.759 --> 00:17:59.599
- Yeah.

00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:03.559
- So you have to make it, like you could like make clothes for it and then you had to make a little,- I was over there just trying to keep it.

00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:04.400
- And then you had to make it, yeah.

00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:06.240
- Yeah, 'cause that's how you keep a life.

00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:07.599
- You're protecting the life of the baby.

00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:11.799
- So you make a little, you make a little like, carrier for it and you have to carry it around at school.

00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:22.559
You can't leave it in your locker, you have to carry it to every class.

00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:25.319
- And they're entrusting this concept with kids.

00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:28.559
- Well, we have people carrying around like actual babies, that like scream and cry, and...

00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:29.559
- Oh, we just have a...

00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:30.559
- No, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:31.559
- Not actual babies, like doll babies.

00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:32.559
- No, yeah, but you could drop that thing and then you know, no one would know.

00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:33.559
- No, but they like crying.

00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:34.559
- They like crying, not so much.

00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:35.559
- You could change them in the middle of class.

00:18:35.559 --> 00:18:36.559
It's like a thing.

00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:37.559
- Yeah.

00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:38.559
- You could bring them home with you.

00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:39.559
- So same concept.

00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:40.559
- Point to scare people out of doing this.

00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:42.559
- Hey, this is what this is like.

00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:43.559
- Prepare them.

00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:44.559
- You know, like control.

00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:45.559
- Yeah, no.

00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:46.559
- Is that part of the sex ed class?

00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:47.559
- Probably.

00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:48.559
That's a good one.

00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:49.559
- Oh gosh.

00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:50.559
- Oh gosh.

00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:51.559
- All right.

00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:52.559
- Let's go.

00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:53.559
- I don't know.

00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:57.559
- Let's go on to cases that we are sharing.

00:18:57.559 --> 00:18:58.559
- Are we all doing one this time?

00:18:58.559 --> 00:18:59.559
Right?

00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:00.559
- We have time for all.

00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:01.559
- No, okay.

00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:02.559
- Okay.

00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:03.559
Courtney, do you want to go first?

00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:04.559
- Yeah.

00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:05.559
- Okay.

00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:06.559
- Once again, I'm a handy dandy notes.

00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:10.559
- So we had a cat come in.

00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:11.559
- Why?

00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:12.559
- I think she's doing this one.

00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:13.559
- No, no, no.

00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:14.559
It's okay.

00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:15.559
- Okay, cool.

00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:16.559
- Are you?

00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:17.559
- No, I have no.

00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:18.559
- What are you doing?

00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:19.559
- I don't know if you guys can see me.

00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:20.559
- This is not our patient.

00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:21.559
It's a foul-spatient.

00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:22.559
- Oh, yes it is.

00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:23.559
- Okay, you do it.

00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:24.559
- Go, go, go.

00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:25.559
- No, I'll contribute.

00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:26.559
- No, no, no.

00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:27.559
- I'll do something else.

00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:28.559
- I'll do it.

00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:29.559
- Just tag team.

00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:30.559
- You're good.

00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:31.559
- Okay, go.

00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:32.559
- We'll contribute together.

00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:33.559
- Okay, so seven-year-old cat came in.

00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:37.559
He was not eating or drinking for the last three days.

00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:38.559
- Oh, he was different.

00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:39.559
- Okay, keep going.

00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:40.559
- Oh, cool.

00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:41.559
- Yeah, it's...

00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:43.559
- He, in the past, has had a history of constipation.

00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:46.559
And when he goes through these phases, usually he has an enema.

00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:48.559
And then he is perfectly fine after.

00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:50.559
So he defecates, feels better.

00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:55.559
But they took him to the ER because, like I said, he wasn't drinking or eating.

00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:58.559
He wasn't able to keep food or water down.

00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:00.559
And he hasn't been using the litter box.

00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:07.559
So the ER did give him an enema and he was still straining really bad and was still not able to defecate.

00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:15.559
And I think the ER clinic did X-rays and said that he was constipated and that he may need surgery to help with that, I guess, is what they told him.

00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:21.559
So then he came to us the next day and he still was not doing well at all.

00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:29.559
So they took abdominal X-rays and there was stuff in the intestines and it looked like a linear-born body, which is where the intestines become.

00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:31.559
And intestines become placated, right?

00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:32.559
That's what, okay.

00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:35.559
Just want to make sure I'm explaining that, right?

00:20:35.559 --> 00:20:45.559
So they took him to surgery and actually when they were intubating him, they noticed string wrapped around his tongue, like really, really tight.

00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:48.559
It was almost like cutting off the blood circulation to his tongue.

00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:50.559
And so they found that.

00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:55.559
And so they cut that off, but you can't just really pull it out of their mouth. That's how it works.

00:20:55.559 --> 00:21:06.559
And so Dr. McDivitt did the surgery and ended up being, she did three inner-automies and a gastronomy, I believe, or maybe two inner-automies, and it ended up being all the way from his tongue into his colon.

00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:08.559
How did you know about that?

00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:09.559
That's a very...

00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:10.559
Sowing thread, I think.

00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:12.559
So it was literally from like mouth to butt.

00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:13.559
Oh my goodness.

00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:15.559
But she got it all out and he's doing really well.

00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:16.559
And he's doing well?

00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:21.559
Yeah. And he was so, like, he was a little grumpy when he got here and we were doing stuff obviously because he didn't feel well.

00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:23.559
And then the day after he was so sweet.

00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:26.559
He was a sweetest cat. He was just like rubbing all over everybody.

00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:28.559
His tongue was killing him.

00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:29.559
Yeah.

00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:32.559
But yeah, we got it off successfully, but I mean, it was like...

00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:34.559
His whole body was just...

00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:35.559
Was it that?

00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:36.559
Yeah, he was eating.

00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:37.559
Yeah, he wasn't eating it.

00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:38.559
And he couldn't keep water or food down.

00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:39.559
Wow.

00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:41.559
He didn't eat for three days, which because he probably didn't feel good in eating this time.

00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:42.559
I'm not eating.

00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:43.559
That's a surgery.

00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:46.559
And it's also very important to check their mouth.

00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:48.559
But sometimes you can't win their week.

00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:49.559
Well, sometimes you can't see it.

00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:52.559
Like, like, um, sewing thread is so...

00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:53.559
Oh, it was...

00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:54.559
It might last for eights in.

00:21:54.559 --> 00:21:59.559
And you can see the inflammation associated, but initially when it first happens, sometimes it can be really easy to miss.

00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:02.559
But if there's anything you take away from this one case, it is...

00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:07.559
If you have a cat that is not eating and vomiting, it always should go to surgery.

00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:08.559
Yes.

00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:11.559
That's like the one thing I love about cats.

00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:13.559
And four bodies.

00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:16.559
I'm telling you, it's like, doesn't require a lot of thinking.

00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:18.559
Cat has an eating it and it's vomiting surgery.

00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.559
Yeah, we had a cat that just wasn't eating for just over a weekend.

00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:24.559
Not only one episode of vomiting.

00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:25.559
Oh, body.

00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:26.559
Yep.

00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:27.559
Sure did.

00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:29.559
Is it going to be done doing the X-rays on?

00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:30.559
No, they can't...

00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:31.559
Oh, they didn't want to do it right away.

00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:32.559
That's right.

00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:33.559
And then he came back.

00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:34.559
And he'd eat the whole thing.

00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:35.559
Yep.

00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:38.559
Especially with it being Christmas season and all the ribbon out.

00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:39.559
And stuff, ever...

00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:40.559
Yeah, be careful.

00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:41.559
Yeah, for sure.

00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:42.559
String is a big offender.

00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:43.559
Caps like string.

00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:44.559
Not an argue.

00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:49.559
I mean, it's obviously with like that type of string, it's hard to see if cats awake and they're moving and stuff.

00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:50.559
Yeah, absolutely.

00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:58.559
Honestly, if it's a big concern, we're just sedate and do an oral exam because if that's what it is and hopefully we can avoid if it was recent avoid surgery.

00:22:58.559 --> 00:22:59.559
Yeah.

00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:06.559
Because a lot of the times I feel like we do find it when we go to intubate because they're almost completely anesthetized and then you pull their tongue on your like, oh, that's a problem.

00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:09.559
Yeah, because cats don't really like oral exams anyway when they're awake.

00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:10.559
That's crazy.

00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:11.559
Well, very cool.

00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:14.559
Okay, well, my case is also a fowse patient.

00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:15.559
Okay.

00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:20.559
It is a tenural cat that presented for lameness in the back.

00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:22.559
I feel like right leg.

00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:23.559
And...

00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:24.559
Wait, is this okay?

00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:25.559
That's what I was talking about.

00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:26.559
Are you talking about...

00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:27.559
Is it fowse case?

00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:28.559
Your case?

00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:30.559
It's fowse patient, but I diagnosed it and saw it.

00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:31.559
But I'm not doing this one.

00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:32.559
You're not doing this one?

00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:33.559
Okay.

00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:34.559
Everybody's patient.

00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:36.559
Help me with some of the details.

00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:37.559
We are all family.

00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:39.559
I don't know what the owner said in regards to...

00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:41.559
I'm not doing this because you're still...

00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:44.559
Like why it happened, but I don't think they know how it happened, right?

00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:46.559
So essentially, what I...

00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:47.559
I knew that the right...

00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:49.559
Or the lameness, how the lameness occurred.

00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:54.559
The right hind lameness was previously like a couple weeks ago.

00:23:54.559 --> 00:24:03.559
What the concern was is that they had moved and something scared the cat on the couch and dropped down, jumped down, and it looked very off-kilter, not normal.

00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:05.559
They were concerned about the left at first.

00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:10.559
But then when the cat presented, that's when it was like, obviously the right...

00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:14.559
Because the owner felt like, too, that maybe there was more of an overcompensation in the left.

00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:16.559
And then go for it.

00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:17.559
Well, diagnosed it.

00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:19.559
And then Dr. Duckwall.

00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:20.559
Okay, amazingly.

00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:21.559
Diagnosed it.

00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:23.559
It ruptured its cow canyel tendon.

00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:26.559
Which is the Achilles tendon.

00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:28.559
And we don't see that very often in cats.

00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:30.559
We'll see it more often in dogs.

00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:32.559
But I wonder if...

00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:41.559
If it had previously been slightly lame, like maybe it strained it or it did something as he was overweight and then when he did the sudden movement, just like in a person...

00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:44.559
He said it hadn't been walking that way for a while.

00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:45.559
For a while.

00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:46.559
Yeah.

00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:50.559
He had jumped off a bed a few weeks prior and then had been kind of gumping on it.

00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:55.559
And then was sitting on the back of the couch, got startled and just tried to jump off, but kind of just fell.

00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:56.559
And landed.

00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:58.559
So it's either they can essentially tear...

00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:03.559
We don't know the degree of it yet, but they went to the orthopedic surgeon yesterday.

00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:04.559
Yeah.

00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:09.559
And you can see that, but you can tear it from trauma or it's a degenerative process.

00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:12.559
Well, that history is probably trauma for that cat.

00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:14.559
But it's such a distinct...

00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:17.559
Like literally the cat took two steps and I was like, this is what it is.

00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:18.559
This is what it is, yeah.

00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:31.559
But we did do X-rays just to confirm there was no secondary fracture or, you know, just any other injury and under sedation, I did get a slight positive cranial drawer in the right stifle.

00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:36.559
Which essentially means I got a little extra movement, wiggle room in the right knee.

00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:41.559
And that can sometimes dictate an injury or usually dictates an injury to the ACL.

00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:44.559
So also known as the cranial cruciate ligament.

00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:51.559
So anyway, that was not the major concern and I wasn't as convinced X-rays looked fine with this thin knee.

00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:58.559
But you could see calcification at the most distal aspect of the Achilles tendon.

00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:03.559
So that tells you it's more or less a little bit of a chronic thing because...

00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:05.559
That was a bit of a simulation.

00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:07.559
Well, and he was 10, right?

00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:08.559
I think so, yeah.

00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:09.559
I think they say like...

00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:10.559
But very overweight as well.

00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:11.559
Very overweight, yeah.

00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:12.559
Super painful though.

00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:19.559
I mean, well, on people, I mean, I can't even believe the animals will continue to walk.

00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:21.559
Which I mean, I guess people can't too.

00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:22.559
Like if you look at...

00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:24.559
Or on the ankle, like it's insane.

00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:25.559
Yeah.

00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:33.559
Then you know, it's just like Google a cat with a torn Achilles or common calcane tendon.

00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:34.559
And they're just...

00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:36.559
They're walking flat on their ankle.

00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:37.559
Yeah.

00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:42.559
So the orthopedic surgeon said that you could obviously primary repair.

00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:43.559
Oh, we have the nose back.

00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:44.559
Yes.

00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:45.559
Okay.

00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:47.559
So primary repair of the Achilles tendon.

00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:48.559
So you could...

00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:52.559
It's a certain kind of suture technique that you use in order to ward off tension, right?

00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:58.559
Because every time that cat or dog steps on its toes, then you're putting tension on that Achilles tendon.

00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:05.559
So there's primary repair, orthodecis, amputation, which I was a little surprised about because...

00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:06.559
Oh, that is very interesting.

00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:13.559
So Fouls was talking yesterday like, okay, well, maybe depending on what conversation occurred in the exam room, maybe...

00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:14.559
That's what...

00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:18.559
Maybe he had to talk about it because the owners were asking specifically about it or something.

00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:19.559
There's sort of the cat's weight.

00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:20.559
Yeah.

00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:22.559
And then...

00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:24.559
I feel like there was...

00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:25.559
So orthodecis primary repair.

00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:26.559
There's a brace is what...

00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:27.559
Oh, I looked it up.

00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:28.559
You can wrap it.

00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:32.559
And then soft tissue, just like put them in a brace or a soft tissue patiband...

00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:38.559
You know, something to provide support again to get the tendon from being like all completely stretched out.

00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:40.559
I mean, the prognosis is pretty good with...

00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:41.559
I mean, it is good with surgery.

00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:42.559
Yes, it's good with surgery.

00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:45.559
But even with the brace, it's not bad from my research, at least.

00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:51.559
So I think when Fouls was talking to them yesterday, they still hadn't decided what they were going to do.

00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:52.559
So...

00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:53.559
Yeah, we tried to...

00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:54.559
We were able...

00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:55.559
Courtney Caldon got them in right away.

00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:56.559
Yeah.

00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:58.559
It has to be pretty quick surgery if you want to do it.

00:27:58.559 --> 00:27:59.559
Right.

00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:00.559
So...

00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:01.559
Yup.

00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:02.559
So a very cool case.

00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:03.559
Yeah.

00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:04.559
I had one of a dog, but it...

00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:05.559
It slid over to the side.

00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:06.559
It really hadn't ruptured.

00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:07.559
It kind of just...

00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:09.559
We just had one of a dog, but it was...

00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:10.559
Frontlin.

00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:11.559
So it was...

00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:12.559
What is that?

00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:13.559
It's not...

00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:15.559
It's not obviously a Achilles.

00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:16.559
Or was it the back leg?

00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:17.559
I think it was the back leg.

00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:18.559
I don't know.

00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:19.559
I don't know.

00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:20.559
It was the same thing.

00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:21.559
Anyway.

00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:24.559
It was a similar concept, but we had it on a dog, so...

00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:25.559
I'm not sure.

00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:27.559
That was probably more degenerative though.

00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:28.559
Because it was...

00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:29.559
Yeah, I'm a term.

00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:30.559
Very, very cool case.

00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:31.559
Yeah.

00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:32.559
Okay.

00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:33.559
Okay.

00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:35.559
I've got a cat and I got a dog, which one do you want?

00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:36.559
Cat.

00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:37.559
What's cat theme?

00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:38.559
And I was so cat.

00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:39.559
So cat.

00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:40.559
Go for it.

00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:41.559
So we have a cat named Penny.

00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:42.559
Oh.

00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:43.559
We love Penny.

00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:44.559
We love these owners.

00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:46.759
Oh, they're just amazing.

00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:49.319
And poor thing came in because she was just ADR.

00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.759
She wasn't eating as great, just not acting like herself.

00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:54.680
Owners are very intume to her.

00:28:54.680 --> 00:29:02.880
And on exam, I noticed right away she was very uncomfortable with palpation of her kidneys.

00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:03.880
So she just...

00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:04.880
She's not aggressive.

00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:09.640
She's so sweet, but she kind of just turned away intense when I physically touched that area.

00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:16.240
So we started with just X-rays and you could see right away that there were two different sized kidneys on X-ray.

00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:21.200
The other thing that I could see is essentially stones in the area of the kidneys.

00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:23.799
So or the middle of the kidneys.

00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.519
She's not a known stone cat former, like nothing like that.

00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:31.559
She actually hasn't even had history of urinary issues or anything.

00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:36.200
So kidney stones can be incidental and benign.

00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:39.039
Like honestly, when we find them, you don't worry about them too much.

00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:47.640
But with two different sized kidneys, you worry that is one really too small and the other one is normal or is one too big.

00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:58.319
And in her scenario is a little bit of both because we then proceeded to alter sound where you saw the kidneys and the small one looks like a kidney that had chronic disease to it.

00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:02.640
Her labs had never shown that because the other one was compensating at the time.

00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:09.640
But then the other one was large and there were stones in the renal pelvis is what we call it.

00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:13.759
And then unfortunately, there was dilation of the ureter.

00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:21.000
So essentially the ureter connects the kidney to the bladder and urine goes down that way.

00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:28.599
But if you can imagine a stone is making its way from the kidney to the bladder and gets stuck along the way, you've got an obstruction up top.

00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:31.720
Usually you'll see obstruction lower trying to come out.

00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:41.240
But in her scenario, unfortunately, we were concerned about that and it was the day before Thanksgiving and it was towards the end of the day.

00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:52.839
And of course all those scenarios, we did lab work here and unfortunately she was showing Azatemia, which means high kidney values because obviously our kidneys weren't working very well.

00:30:52.839 --> 00:31:00.400
So we had to ship her to Purdue, which is the only place that can facilitate a surgery to remove that type of stone right away.

00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:11.500
So we sat her, she was stable and interesting enough, they put her on fluids because of there's only one person can do it essentially.

00:31:11.500 --> 00:31:17.039
They rechecked and her kidney values had improved on fluids and they kept improving on fluids.

00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:20.599
So then I think they rechecked ultrasound.

00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:31.640
I don't remember to be honest, but anyways, the thought was that the obstruction relieved itself because she kept getting better, acting like on blood work, everything.

00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:39.920
So she went home, she did not have to have the surgery thankfully, but there were other stones in the kidney, so we have to be very careful.

00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:45.400
And then unfortunately, now the kidneys have been damaged, it's called an acute kidney injury.

00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:55.880
So then you worry about the repercussions of where are her kidneys functioning now, what's her new baseline, especially knowing that another, her other kidney wasn't completely normal.

00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:01.799
So we've been in touch with the owner a lot and fortunately we had to see their other cat for urinary stuff on Monday.

00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:07.920
So when it rains it pours, but we are due to recheck her blood work here in a couple weeks I think.

00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:12.599
She's been asking her case and skinning home, but we did have to put her on an appetite stimulant.

00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:16.319
And of course we had to change her food so that's part of it.

00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:18.599
She went through a lot.

00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:22.039
There's just unfortunately some unknowns at the time.

00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:26.000
But if she's continues to act abnormal, we're going to recheck an ultrasound as well.

00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:29.000
No, she's a different antinoggia.

00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.319
So we did for any antinoggia as well on Monday.

00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:32.319
See if that helps her.

00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:33.319
But she is acting better now.

00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:46.000
Because like Dr. Duckwell said she doesn't, the owner didn't know if she wasn't eating great because of all the stress she endured because she came here and then she went to Purdue, she stayed there and then she went home and then she actually had to take her back to recheck her.

00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:47.000
So she went to Purdue twice.

00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:52.759
That's a long car drive and that's a clinic and so, but when I saw her on Monday she was doing better.

00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:59.599
I think her antinoggia was here and we think he, it's a boy, was passing a bladder stone.

00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:01.759
So now both rickets have kidney disease.

00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:02.759
Oh my gosh.

00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:07.720
So both of the, so the male cat has kidney, oh, he has stones.

00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:13.839
He has bladder stones and we've had to remove them before years ago but they're the type that don't dissolve with food.

00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:14.839
Mm-hmm.

00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:16.359
I'll see him oxalates.

00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:21.880
So he was showing vocalization in the, the litter box going multiple times.

00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:25.000
He was not blocked but he has stones in his bladder again.

00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.000
That poor family.

00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:28.000
Yeah.

00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:29.000
Yeah.

00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:30.000
They're awesome owners.

00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:31.000
They're amazing.

00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:32.000
Yeah.

00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:33.000
We're like, we like seeing you but not really.

00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.000
I'm kind of tired of seeing you.

00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:36.000
Yeah.

00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.000
Okay.

00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:38.000
Good cases guys.

00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.000
Yeah.

00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:40.000
Okay.

00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:41.000
Very cool.

00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:42.000
Okay.

00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.680
So, dive right into it.

00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:46.000
Dive right into it.

00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.519
Today's discussion centers around.

00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:55.480
Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, they're all too old to do.

00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:04.400
The mystery illness, what everyone is calling the mystery illness because, all of us no longer, I think it's a mystery because it's here all the time.

00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:05.400
Yeah.

00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:06.400
Would you like more, Canada dress?

00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.599
No, I'm still finishing my, it is almost empty but.

00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:11.599
Anyone want to be short?

00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:13.400
Just open your coffee.

00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:14.880
Save it for lunch.

00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:15.880
So guys.

00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:16.880
Yeah.

00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:20.079
Let's just unpack the mystery illness.

00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:21.079
We still know.

00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:22.920
Let's start by saying we don't know what it is.

00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:27.760
It is a mystery because we don't have an, it's not a name for it or, yeah, not a name for it.

00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:28.760
No.

00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:39.800
Um, I think that like in true fashion, the news scared everyone which, that's what the news does because that's what sells.

00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:44.599
So um, and if you've been watching our podcast, you'll know we talked about this a long time ago.

00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:49.280
So we have been aware of the respiratory illness for months.

00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.840
It's like Rudy Taylor was our first, well, not like the first one on the clinic.

00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:53.840
It was like April.

00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:54.840
It was April.

00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:55.840
It was April.

00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:56.840
Go the Vichla.

00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:57.840
Goat the Vichla.

00:34:57.840 --> 00:34:58.840
Oh my gosh.

00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.719
Yeah, he was in the first round of it.

00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:03.719
And so we've been dealing with it since April, right?

00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:04.719
Or May.

00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:10.519
And much to our credit, we ended up keeping animals, coughing animals out of the clinic.

00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:14.159
That was implemented very, yeah, the protocol.

00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:15.159
Something was different.

00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.639
So just so all of our listeners who come to this clinic, we've been on top of it.

00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:20.639
Yes.

00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:24.239
We have a whole protocol you go through when somebody calls and says, my dog's coughing.

00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:25.239
Yes.

00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:28.039
And what's so interesting is normally we would see coughing dogs, right?

00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:29.840
I mean, we see kennel cough all the time.

00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:31.960
Retriegiaid is all the time.

00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:38.280
And I think what the way that it happened for us was, um, the first couple of cases were like after spring break.

00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:39.280
Mm-hmm.

00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:42.519
So we were like, it's kennel cough because that's what we would see around the holidays.

00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:50.400
Many time people bored and they're those, you know, one time borders a year when someone goes on vacation, they don't have a lot of natural immunity.

00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:51.400
They get exposed.

00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.159
They present that we see kennel cough.

00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:54.159
Mm-hmm.

00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:56.280
Doesn't mean that their border televaccine doesn't work.

00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:59.800
It just means they got some cold being around a lot of dogs.

00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.199
So we have a routine the way we treat those patients.

00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:07.119
And then we were seeing that that wasn't resolving the coughing for some of these patients.

00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.519
And so then that's when we were like, that's weird.

00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:13.360
We also never treat pneumonia practically ever.

00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:14.360
Right.

00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:18.840
So, um, we'll have a dog who aspirates because it has an underlying condition.

00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:20.760
And so we might treat pneumonia that way.

00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:23.960
But we hardly ever treat pneumonia in K9 patients.

00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:25.719
I mean, we just don't, it's not a thing.

00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:27.440
We very often treat.

00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.480
And so we were seeing pneumonia repetitively.

00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.360
And we're like, all right, that's not right either.

00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:33.360
Yeah.

00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:34.960
Because now we're treating all the time.

00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:35.960
Mm-hmm.

00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:36.960
Yeah.

00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:42.599
Have we only had one patient, not in our care, but pass away because of the mystery illness?

00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:45.800
I feel like there's only been one at an ER clinic, right?

00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:46.800
Yeah, sure.

00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:49.280
I feel like it was an ER clinic.

00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:50.280
It wasn't here.

00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.719
It was- We used the niased one here, but it already was very, very sick and old.

00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:55.800
And then it contracted a cough.

00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:58.320
But it could have been due to something else, but we did have one here.

00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.480
And I know the reason- But it wasn't due just to the respiratory illness.

00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:02.480
Yeah.

00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:04.000
It was because of a lot of other things.

00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:05.000
Yeah.

00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:06.000
So morbidities or whatever.

00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:07.000
Yeah.

00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:09.400
Who have had a couple that have gone on for months though?

00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:10.400
Oh, yes.

00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:17.719
That's the more common thing is they don't resolve in that first seven to ten day window, like normal tracheitis.

00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:19.719
It's- You're in it.

00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:20.719
You're going to be coughing for three months.

00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:21.719
You're in it to win it for three months.

00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:22.719
Yeah.

00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:23.719
And that's the thing, too.

00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:26.800
It's like, well, you know, our protocol is we'll start treatment.

00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:31.360
And honestly, I still have good luck with the first line treatment with, especially the younger dogs.

00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:32.360
Yes.

00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:37.039
And there's no research to that.

00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:40.880
Also do the first line treatment and we'll still get a lot of good success.

00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.159
There are those though that obviously don't.

00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.000
And then we come back and do X-rays.

00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.880
Most of the time we're seeing some trace pneumonia.

00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:48.880
Some are really bad.

00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:50.360
Some aren't that bad.

00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.000
Start the second line treatment.

00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.239
You recheck the X-rays two weeks after.

00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.599
There's been a couple times where it hasn't cleared on me for my patients.

00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:06.039
So I've had to either continue or then we talk about sampling the airway, well, we used to talk about sampling the airway.

00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:12.559
But then once you clear on X-ray, I think that's important to talk about is the pneumonia is gone.

00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:16.079
You go two weeks after the cleared X-ray of antibiotic treatment.

00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:21.320
If they're still coughing, it's probably due to post infection, inflammation and irritation.

00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:27.519
Like, imagine if you were sick for that long in your airways, you're not going to just stop coughing that immediately.

00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:32.000
So I think that's the biggest, like the question we'll have is are they still contagious?

00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:33.000
Right.

00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:34.000
I was going to say that's enough.

00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:35.000
It's so hard.

00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:36.000
I know.

00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:41.239
For honors, I think too, is that like, well, can I take my dog in and we're like, I don't know.

00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:42.239
It's hard to tell.

00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:44.000
And you're not going to test them because we don't know what the pathogen is.

00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:45.400
We don't have a specific test.

00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:50.199
And then you're not going to airway sample them to say that they're negative on a culture.

00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:54.679
I mean, like, that doesn't make any sense from a money perspective or just the sedation of the dog.

00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:56.159
I mean, it doesn't make any sense.

00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:57.159
Yeah.

00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:08.519
I mean, I think one of the things we've been seeing for whatever reason, which I guess makes sense, but people are afraid to come in the clinic with their dog that they're going to expose their dog to other dogs.

00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:10.360
I just don't think that's a thing.

00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:27.199
Like, I mean, I suppose if you were in the same room or within a certain period, like certain time period or distance from another dog that was coughing, your dog could get it, but just like with people and COVID, like, this isn't the only place your dog is going probably, I mean, they're out on walks, well, probably walking.

00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:28.679
They're probably out.

00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:30.159
So I mean, it's not as much.

00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:33.280
You're not as exposing the dog as much as you would when we were people.

00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:37.920
We were walking from store to store to store to store, you know, because we have to live.

00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:38.920
But I mean, I don't know.

00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:43.039
I'm just not scared of dogs coming in the clinic for routine care.

00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.559
And I think it's because we are on the inside where we know the precautions we're taking.

00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:47.559
Right.

00:39:47.559 --> 00:40:07.880
Like, even when we do curbside appointments and now that it's cold, we may still bring the dog into the building to do the appointment, but we have literally specific back rooms, if you will, like isolated rooms so that there is no contact with other animals in the clinic now, like they're separated by a hallway and doorways.

00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:13.400
And then we, the staff who interacts with that animal, we take precautions as well.

00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:18.519
We wash our hands, literally wipe down our clothes with our, I don't know.

00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:22.199
We just probably carcinogenic wipes that we have for cleaning.

00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:28.679
And wear gloves and I mean bleach and disinfect these rooms that the dogs are in.

00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:39.760
Like we're doing all the precautions where there's absolutely no reason or I would have no concern fit for me, bring my dog in to the normal, through the normal front door into our appointment rooms to do an exam.

00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:40.760
Yeah.

00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:50.800
If it also makes people feel better, we're not going to mess around with turn or not keeping ourselves clean and keeping our workstations clean because we have dogs at home too, but we don't necessarily want to bring the illness home too.

00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:55.320
So of course, we're, I mean, like you said, we take like those dogs don't go on high traffic areas at all.

00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:56.320
Yeah.

00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:57.320
They don't step that in.

00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:59.000
We don't want patients to interact with each other.

00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:00.000
They're not touching noses.

00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:01.000
They're not saying that.

00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:02.000
Yeah, dogs don't know.

00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:03.480
That's in general that never happens.

00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:17.320
So, you know, I think, and I think the, the, the advantage or the gain from having your pet up to date on its annual is way better than not putting it into your fridge of the virus.

00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:18.599
Or whatever it is that's out there.

00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:19.599
Yeah.

00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:20.599
Yeah.

00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:21.599
Yeah.

00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:26.079
And you know, when we do X-rays, we have an ice, we actually go through isolation area and then into the X-ray room.

00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:27.360
That's right next to it.

00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:29.360
And then they go back out that way.

00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:33.960
And again, we disinfect everything and like we walked them completely around the building outside.

00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:34.960
Yeah.

00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:35.960
Isn't she saying?

00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:36.960
I'm very, very back door.

00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:37.960
Yes.

00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:38.960
So.

00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:39.960
So yeah.

00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:40.960
So make sure your animal's up to date, right?

00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:45.360
Maybe avoid boarding facilities, especially in some of those areas.

00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:50.119
Yeah, that are really being hit hard by it right now.

00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.960
Do you guys feel like we're seeing less of it right now?

00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:53.960
A slightly less amount?

00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:54.960
I feel like it's hidden mess.

00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:55.960
Yeah.

00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:56.960
Right.

00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:57.960
Doesn't it seem like some weeks it's like there's another one.

00:41:57.960 --> 00:41:58.960
Yeah.

00:41:58.960 --> 00:41:59.960
There's another one.

00:41:59.960 --> 00:42:00.960
Yeah.

00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:01.960
And in some weeks it's like we didn't see a coffee.

00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:02.960
Yeah.

00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:03.960
Pretty good.

00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:04.960
Right.

00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:05.960
I'll be interested to see after the holiday.

00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:06.960
Yeah.

00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.639
Because I know people just have no choice.

00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:11.559
I have to board their dog and it's kind of one of those things where.

00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:12.559
Mm-hmm.

00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:13.559
Unfortunately it is what it is.

00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:14.559
Mm-hmm.

00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.559
I'm glad that we don't have a boarding facility.

00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:19.360
Could you imagine trying to run a, oh my goodness.

00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:24.360
Like 100 plus dog boarding facility and, oh my gosh, wow.

00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:25.360
Yeah.

00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:29.639
My best friend is the head trainer at one of the training facilities around here.

00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:31.760
And she, yeah, they have coughing dog left and right.

00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:32.760
Ah, just.

00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:33.760
I mean, it's not there.

00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:34.760
It's not there.

00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:38.199
It's just, you know, people always want to blame facilities.

00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:39.199
It's really not their fault.

00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:41.239
Like some of these dogs are asymptomatic.

00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:45.440
They come in and then they're exposing before they're coughing.

00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.400
It's a, it's like you're chasing your tail.

00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.400
You know what I mean to try and stay in front of it.

00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:50.400
Yep.

00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.719
And so, um, it's just like a human respiratory illness, right?

00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:53.719
Yeah.

00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.679
You don't know if you're carrying it because you were exposed a couple days ago, then you get sick a couple days later, like I was just around you yesterday.

00:42:58.679 --> 00:42:59.679
Yeah.

00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:00.679
Yeah.

00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:08.079
So it's not the perfect world, but just have grace with people and caregivers and veterinary staff because it is what it is.

00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:09.079
It's frustrating, but it is.

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And it'll all work itself out.

00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:12.079
Like it always does.

00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:13.079
Yep.

00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:14.079
Medicine.

00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:15.079
It always changes.

00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:16.079
That's right.

00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:17.079
That's right.

00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:18.079
Exactly.

00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:19.079
Okay.

00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:20.079
Hitoki.

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