#9 Stanford Hands #4 Hawai'i Their First Loss of the Season, Jordan Thompson Comes Up Big for LOVB Houston
In this episode of Volley Talk, we talk about the back to back NCAA men's series between #4 Hawai'i and #9 Stanford. Spoiler alert: they split the series, and Hawai'i lost its unbeaten record. We also take a look at the LOVB Texas Showdown between Houston and Austin.
Mary Wise announces her retirement from Florida after 34 years at the helm of the program, we take a look at the recent NCAA grads playing pro overseas, and Sarah & Adam play a game of Magic GM.
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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,760 Hi volleyball fans and welcome back to volley talk the podcast created for volleyball lovers who want to dig deep into what is going on in NCAA and international volleyball. 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:19,000 I'm your host Sarah Pavin. I'm an Olympian, beach volleyball world champion, former Nebraska corn husker and longtime pro both indoor and on the beach. 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:25,200 And I'm Adam Schultz, former indoor player, international volleyball coach and the show's resident stat guy. 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:39,880 Another exciting volley week is in the books. I personally enjoyed watching the NCAA men's side of things this week because there were a lot of very exciting matches going on. 5 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:51,280 We had a lot of fun watching those. Things are also staying pretty steady in the love universe, but we are seeing some movement starting to happen on the PVF side of things. 6 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:59,000 We have got some overseas updates, a new game for you and a lot more to cover. So let's get started. 7 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:17,480 Carrying on with the NCAA women's news because you know they just can't stay away. 8 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,480 They refuse to give up the headlines. 9 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:25,600 We have another retirement this week following Coach Cook's announcement last week. 10 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:32,680 Mary Wise, the head coach of Florida, announced her retirement after 34 seasons with the program. 11 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,880 She was the longest tenured head coach in UF history. 12 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,080 That's amazing that she was there for so long. 13 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,000 It's wild. And that wasn't even her entire career. 14 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:44,600 I know. 15 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,480 She coached other places. 16 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,280 It's impressive. 17 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:55,080 Mary Wise totaled 1,068 career wins, making it the fourth most in NCAA Division I history. 18 00:01:55,080 --> 00:02:02,080 And she is the winningest female head coach in Division I history, which is incredible. 19 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:10,240 Mary Wise led her teams to eight Final Fours, two national runner up appearances and 25 SEC titles. 20 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,600 There's a lot more. These are just the highlights. 21 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,280 Okay. And amazingly, this is a big accomplishment, I think. 22 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,880 Mary Wise made the NCAA tournament in each of her 34 seasons. 23 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:27,200 And Florida was not the program it was when she got there. 24 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,080 Okay. When she entered the program, they were coming off of a losing season. 25 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,200 She completely built that program. 26 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,880 So that might be the most impressive stat for me. 27 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:46,480 Just the consistency to run a program and to be in the hunt every year is an incredible accomplishment. 28 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,480 So we wish Mary Wise all the best. 29 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:55,480 I am sure she will hand off the Florida Gators program to good hands. 30 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,880 I personally haven't seen anything yet. 31 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,000 Maybe I missed it. 32 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:09,800 But another big chapter, another huge player in the NCAA volleyball world is calling it a campaign. 33 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,400 Do you think we're going to see her as a head coach of a pro team in Florida next year? 34 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,000 No. 35 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:14,880 She's done. 36 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:20,200 I think it's another spend time with the family and the grandkids situation. 37 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,880 It takes a lot of time. 38 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:27,480 On the NCAA men's side, we had several upsets this week. 39 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:32,000 Okay, it was a big heavy hitting week with big matchups. 40 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,000 But some of these upsets happened in matches I didn't expect. 41 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,000 For example, Harvard beat Penn State 3-0. 42 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,600 And that loss sent Penn State to be 0-7. 43 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,800 Bye bye to the season. 44 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,400 Not a great start. 45 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:55,400 But Penn State recovered and got their first win of the season by coming back and beating Harvard the next day. 46 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:56,600 3-1. 47 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,400 So Penn State is not getting baggled this season. 48 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,400 I was about to say, we'll consider that a win. 49 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,200 It's not a win. 50 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,400 No, absolutely not. 51 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,000 Especially for a program like that. 52 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,200 When we first watched them play and they lost, when they lost to UCLA, 53 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,600 you know, I thought they had a bunch of players sick. 54 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,600 They were traveling. 55 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,000 I expected much more out of them this season. 56 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,600 And I thought, you know what, you're not firing on all cylinders. 57 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,600 I'm going to give you a couple of weeks to get back on track. 58 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,800 But to be 0-7, I mean, your season is over. 59 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:33,200 You can't come in now unless they win their division tournament and they get a spot in the tournament. 60 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,400 That's the only way. 61 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,400 But that's, you can't start like that. 62 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,800 That's crazy. 63 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,600 That's rough. 64 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,000 Yeah. 65 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,800 LIU beat Princeton 3-1. 66 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,400 I wasn't even sure what LIU is. 67 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,000 Is it Long Island University? 68 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Regardless, Princeton was a top 20 team and they got beat by LIU. 69 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 No good. 70 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,800 Long Beach State, this wasn't an upset, but it was just like a public interest type of thing. 71 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,000 Long Beach State beat UCLA 3-1. 72 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,800 We couldn't attend that match, but it looked packed. 73 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,400 I will be sitting down and watching that match as soon as we finish recording this. 74 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,600 Long Beach State, like you know what we think about UCLA. 75 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,400 They've got the potential, but like let's show up boys. 76 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:17,800 Okay. 77 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,600 And I understand Long Beach State is probably very good. 78 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,800 I still haven't seen them play, so don't hold that against me. 79 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,600 Stanford and Hawaii split their back to back. 80 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:33,200 Hawaii won the first match in five and Stanford came back to beat them in four. 81 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,200 So that was Hawaii's first loss of the season. 82 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,600 So now I think we're only down to four unbeatens. 83 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:44,600 We watched both of those games and we'll be talking about them here in a little bit. 84 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,200 Cal State Northridge upset Pepperdine 3-1. 85 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:55,800 So expect to see some movement in the rankings this week because there was a lot of shakeups. 86 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,400 Honestly, I am shocked that Penn State is still even in the top 20. 87 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,200 I think they should probably be off the pole now. 88 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,000 I would imagine they'll drop out of the standings this week. 89 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,000 They were 17th. 90 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:12,600 Like your 0-7 at that point is like a courtesy and a respect thing that people are even keeping you on the list. 91 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,000 Yeah, you're giving them the benefit of the dough that they're going to turn it around. 92 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,000 But and I mean no disrespect to Harvard, but you can't lose that game. 93 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,400 I mean, Harvard's not bad. 94 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,400 No, but they're not Penn State. 95 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:29,100 I think Princeton will drop off the list because they were like near the bottom of the top 20 and losing to LIU. 96 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:32,500 Like they probably won't be there anymore. 97 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:39,200 You'll see some movement with Pepperdine and CSUN, Stanford, Hawaii. 98 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:44,900 Like yeah, this will be a moving and shaking week in NCAA men's volleyball for sure. 99 00:06:44,900 --> 00:06:54,800 Moving on to love the head-to-head match this week was a Texas showdown between Houston and Austin with Houston coming up with a 3-1 victory. 100 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,200 We're going to talk about that match in detail later on in the episode, but that was a good one to watch. 101 00:06:59,200 --> 00:06:59,800 It was close. 102 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,400 It was entertaining. 103 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,700 If we look at the weekend matchups, Atlanta had a good weekend. 104 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:09,500 They beat Salt Lake 3-1 and Madison 3-0. 105 00:07:09,500 --> 00:07:12,500 So they continue to cruise and they're playing really well. 106 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:16,800 Omaha had a barn burner with Salt Lake winning 3-2. 107 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:28,800 And so the current league standings after week five are Atlanta, Omaha, Houston, Salt Lake, Austin and a struggling Madison. 108 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:34,000 So the standings are the exact same as last week, but now Atlanta is pulling further ahead. 109 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:40,300 You've got to think that the Omaha fans are loving Madison being at the bottom of the standings. 110 00:07:40,300 --> 00:07:42,600 We're just going to keep that rivalry going. 111 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,100 I'm sure they're not heartbroken about it. 112 00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:48,700 And lastly, let's give you the PVF rundown for the week. 113 00:07:48,700 --> 00:07:54,300 So last Sunday Orlando handed Omaha their first sweep ever. 114 00:07:54,300 --> 00:07:55,300 So that was big news. 115 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:59,100 Omaha has generally been very strong in one league last year. 116 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:01,400 Atlanta did have a tough week. 117 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:09,300 They lost to Vegas in four and then they lost to Orlando in three straight and then to Omaha in four as well. 118 00:08:09,300 --> 00:08:11,100 So they have plummeted in the rankings. 119 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:14,100 Yeah, not a not a great week for them. 120 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:19,000 But Orlando is playing well and sweeping teams left, right and center. 121 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:25,700 Columbus, I'm happy to report has finally won a match beating Grand Rapids in 3-2. 122 00:08:25,700 --> 00:08:26,900 You never want to be the team. 123 00:08:26,900 --> 00:08:28,300 You never want to be that team. 124 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:30,700 So Grand Rapids gives the team their first win of the season. 125 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:31,900 Yeah, not great. 126 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:37,800 So if we look at the top of the league, it's Vegas, Omaha and Orlando. 127 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Omaha has more points than Vegas, but Vegas has a better record. 128 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:47,500 So for those of you who are unaware, there's a multi-point system with PVF. 129 00:08:47,500 --> 00:08:54,100 So they track the wins and losses and that is what is showing up on the rankings page on the website. 130 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:58,200 But they also accumulate points based on the type of victory. 131 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,100 So if you win in three or four, you get three points. 132 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:04,800 If you win in five, you get two points. 133 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,300 And if you lose in five, you get one point. 134 00:09:07,300 --> 00:09:13,000 So I'm actually unsure as to what the official ranking criteria are. 135 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,800 If it's just wins and losses or if it's points on the website, it's wins and losses. 136 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,600 But I'm trying to figure that if anyone knows, let me know. 137 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:27,200 But they do track kind of two of those important metrics in terms of wins and losses, but also types of wins. 138 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:33,400 I'm also confused because overseas the leagues use the points system 139 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:38,800 and it's the points that determine the league standings. 140 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,000 I'm personally a big fan of the point system. 141 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:47,700 I like to me winning in three or four should mean something rather than always going to five. 142 00:09:47,700 --> 00:09:51,100 So that's my personal preference and I love that they're tracking it. 143 00:09:51,100 --> 00:09:52,600 I'm just not sure if that's... 144 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,900 I'm like, is it like a tiebreaker thing? 145 00:09:54,900 --> 00:10:00,100 Are you keeping track of the points as a tiebreaker because the way that you have laid out it is based on record 146 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:04,200 because Vegas is seven and two, Omaha is six and three. 147 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,900 But Omaha has got 18 points and Vegas has 17. 148 00:10:06,900 --> 00:10:11,100 So if this is Europe, Omaha would be at the top. 149 00:10:11,100 --> 00:10:18,500 I wonder if this is a fan education system because they don't do points like that in many pro leagues in America. 150 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:21,100 So who knows exactly who's in first place. 151 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:22,700 We don't know what the standard is. 152 00:10:22,700 --> 00:10:27,400 It looks like the record is the standard, but I wish it would be points because I agree. 153 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:32,400 That is just like a more zoomed in breakdown of the season. 154 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,800 And like I think if you're winning in a dominant fashion, that should mean something. 155 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:37,600 Agreed. 156 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,200 Look at that. 157 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,600 Mostly volleyball this week. 158 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:41,400 As it should be. 159 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,700 One retirement announcement, no drama, easy peasy. 160 00:10:45,700 --> 00:10:47,000 This is the way we like it. 161 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,800 Just spitting facts and results. 162 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,300 So hopefully you guys were able to watch some of those matches, 163 00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:55,300 but we're about to dive into a couple right now. 164 00:10:55,300 --> 00:11:04,900 All right, as we alluded to earlier, our first feature match of the week is Hawaii versus Stanford on the NCAA men's side. 165 00:11:04,900 --> 00:11:08,400 We did actually watch both of these matches. 166 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,900 So we're going to give a full rundown of their head to head overall. 167 00:11:13,900 --> 00:11:21,200 Okay, before we get into the match itself for all of you volleyball fans over there who are currently missing 168 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:29,600 that women's NCAA volleyball excitement, I want to encourage you to watch some of the men's matches. 169 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:35,400 You know, we've talked about our thoughts of the women's pro leagues that are going on and they're good to watch. 170 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,200 We've been enjoying that. 171 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,600 But for me personally, they've lacked that. 172 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:42,400 Firepower. 173 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:51,100 The firepower, the intensity, the excitement of the NCAA women's season that we thoroughly enjoyed. 174 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:55,200 And these men's matches have been delivering that for me. 175 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:00,000 So if you are feeling like you're missing your volleyball fix, watch some of these matches. 176 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,900 I promise you they will deliver that excitement of watching. 177 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:07,600 I was on the edge of my seat watching these games. 178 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,700 Well, they're completely different than the women's game. 179 00:12:10,700 --> 00:12:18,800 Like when I'm watching women's volleyball, I hate to say it, but there are very few times when I'm just like, wow, 180 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:19,900 you know what I mean? 181 00:12:19,900 --> 00:12:21,000 It's entertaining. 182 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:21,900 It's back and forth. 183 00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:23,100 The rallies are long. 184 00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:24,800 Like cool stuff is happening. 185 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:34,300 But when I'm watching the NCAA men's game multiple times a match, I am like, oh my gosh, that is insane. 186 00:12:34,300 --> 00:12:42,300 Well, and I will be the first one to admit I'm not and have not been a huge fan of watching men's volleyball because you see a lot of errors. 187 00:12:42,300 --> 00:12:43,600 It's very terminal. 188 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:49,700 It's not it's impressive to watch them physically, but it's not always entertaining. 189 00:12:49,700 --> 00:12:53,700 But these matches that we have been watching, there have been rallies. 190 00:12:53,700 --> 00:12:55,300 There have been lead changes. 191 00:12:55,300 --> 00:12:56,900 People's faces getting taken off. 192 00:12:56,900 --> 00:12:58,700 Yeah, we'll talk about that. 193 00:12:58,700 --> 00:13:00,400 It's been exciting. 194 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:08,400 So if you are looking for something and the women's pro leagues are just not quite scratching that itch, check this out because fantastic. 195 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:16,500 So as Sarah mentioned, we're going to talk about the Hawaii Stanford back to back showdown that happened in Hawaii this week. 196 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:19,100 Now, I know not everybody is watching men's volleyball. 197 00:13:19,100 --> 00:13:25,400 So let's give a general overview of the two teams and then we'll talk about the matches specifically. 198 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:31,500 What were your thoughts on Stanford start as a team as a team? 199 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:34,600 Their setter is no good. 200 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,300 I'm not a fan starting with the positive. 201 00:13:36,300 --> 00:13:37,000 I like that. 202 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,900 I like that Sarah style. 203 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:41,900 It's called an open face sandwich effect. 204 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:42,300 Okay. 205 00:13:42,300 --> 00:13:45,700 Most people do positive negative positive. 206 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:51,300 I just leave the top piece of bread off. Okay. 207 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:53,000 I'm not a huge fan of the setter. 208 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:58,100 I think Stanford is incredible at fixing bad sets. 209 00:13:58,100 --> 00:13:59,500 They're very good at it. 210 00:13:59,500 --> 00:14:02,900 Hence, they're out jousting and out tipping Hawaii. 211 00:14:02,900 --> 00:14:03,900 Oh my gosh. 212 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:06,000 Badly in those two matches. 213 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,100 They don't run the middle much at all. 214 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:18,900 I would say their firepower comes from their left side, particularly one of them Teo snowy. 215 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:20,700 I really like their libero. 216 00:14:20,700 --> 00:14:26,300 I think Stanford is a solid team. 217 00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:31,800 I just don't think they have enough pieces to really make it to the top. 218 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,800 I would I would agree with all that to me. 219 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:40,300 Stanford is one of those teams where you know what you're going to get every time you play them. 220 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:42,000 They are consistent. 221 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 They put the same product on the floor. 222 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,600 They make good adjustments. 223 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,900 I will say defensively. 224 00:14:47,900 --> 00:14:49,100 They're very scrappy. 225 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:57,300 I think their libero does a fantastic job of a digging balls and be being in the right place to get hit by balls. 226 00:14:57,300 --> 00:15:00,300 Sometimes you have to yeah, and that's part of the men's game. 227 00:15:00,300 --> 00:15:02,000 Balloon off the fight. 228 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:09,900 He is fearless and he gets in there and he makes plays and Stanford keeps balls alive and we'll talk about this in the match. 229 00:15:09,900 --> 00:15:13,100 But Stanford makes you beat them. 230 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:14,300 Yeah, they're steady. 231 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:24,500 They're not the team that's necessarily going to go take the match from you, but they're going to be consistent and put a solid product on the floor. 232 00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:28,900 And if you falter, they will still be steady and win. 233 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:35,000 And I think if I'm looking at that team, like you said about the setter, he does some good things. 234 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,400 But when he misses, he misses and it's unhittable. 235 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,400 And it happens more than it should. 236 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:46,200 I think if Stanford had a really good setter, that could be a difference maker. 237 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,100 Well, that's that was my question watching these matches. 238 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:51,600 I'm like, you're a great program. 239 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,800 I understand the program folded for a second. 240 00:15:54,800 --> 00:16:03,100 So the recruiting was an issue, but you're telling me you cannot find a setter that can deliver a better ball than that. 241 00:16:03,100 --> 00:16:07,400 So I think the setter, this is his first season seeing actual playing time. 242 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,500 So, you know, he might need a chance to settle in. 243 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:13,100 We'll see if he can kind of figure it out. 244 00:16:13,100 --> 00:16:21,600 But for me watching them, other than having just a stud athlete, that was the biggest piece they were missing that I think could make a difference for them down the stretch. 245 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,000 OK, what about Hawaii? 246 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,500 Hawaii is just so fun to watch. 247 00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:30,700 Now they have a very internationally inspired roster. 248 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:35,300 Their two left sides are both French players. 249 00:16:35,300 --> 00:16:42,000 Their opposite, who is incredible, is Bulgarian and they have an Israeli middle. 250 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,600 So they're bringing in a lot of pieces. 251 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,700 A lot of them are young. 252 00:16:45,700 --> 00:16:47,900 They're going to be very good for a long time. 253 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:56,600 They're young in their eligibility, but they're older compared to other freshmen, which a lot of them are freshmen or sophomores. 254 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:57,900 And it's insane. 255 00:16:57,900 --> 00:17:03,600 And so that is a it's a good recipe for success on the men's side because those years make a difference. 256 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:09,100 And you've got a similar David situation from UCLA going on. 257 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:10,600 They're dynamic. 258 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:11,800 They're players. 259 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,600 They've they're big. 260 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,000 They jump. 261 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,400 They have a left side number 23. 262 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,400 This kid, he is just fun to watch. 263 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,600 He does everything. 264 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,300 He makes incredible digs. 265 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:31,200 He is absolutely dynamic front row back row. 266 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:38,000 I saw him apologize to more players in those two matches for blowing their faces off than I think I've seen all year in any league. 267 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,900 It was incredible. 268 00:17:39,900 --> 00:17:41,600 They are fun to watch. 269 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,900 Not to mention their biggest player is their setter at 611. 270 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:48,200 What? 271 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,400 The setter is 611. 272 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,800 Okay, then we'll talk with them. 273 00:17:51,800 --> 00:18:00,600 And their right side, they call him the Bulgarian boom, has a heavy arm and also fun to watch. 274 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,800 Defensive liability doesn't bend his knees, but man, he can hit the ball. 275 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,200 Okay, let's talk about these matches. 276 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,000 All right. 277 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,000 So let's start with Stanford. 278 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,100 And I want to highlight a few things here. 279 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:19,300 We talked about Stanford being a very consistent team on a read you a couple stats here. 280 00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:21,300 So let's talk about Teo snowy. 281 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:23,100 And this is kind of the consistency part. 282 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:28,600 So he hit 349 in one match and 350 in the other match. 283 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:28,800 Right. 284 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,200 So almost identical. 285 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:38,400 He had 40 attempts in one 43 in the other and similar like 19 kills, five errors, 23 kills, eight errors. 286 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,000 He was the same in both matches and he is kind of their biggest point score. 287 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:49,100 I would say on the left side and then on the right side you have Moses Wagner who also was relatively consistent. 288 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:56,000 He hit 216 one night to 37 the next night 14 kills in both matches. 289 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,500 They're just incredibly consistent. 290 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:00,400 And I would say the same thing. 291 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,700 They played the same match in both. 292 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:04,400 They had chances to win. 293 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,200 The sets were all by two points. 294 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:14,800 They were in every match just couldn't close out the one and then found a way to make those plays down the stretch in the other. 295 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,600 What were your overall impressions of those two matches and what was the difference to you? 296 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:25,400 Honestly, I think the difference lies in Hawaii's performance. 297 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:30,900 I think the night that they won I wasn't ever questioning their decision-making. 298 00:19:30,900 --> 00:19:33,600 I was they were playing hard. 299 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,800 It was good volleyball in the match that they lost. 300 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:53,400 I found that there was a bit of a lack of discipline in certain players decision-making and I think setting choices and execution at times really hurt them. 301 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:59,700 It's like as you said, Stanford played very consistent, but I think Hawaii took a dip. 302 00:19:59,700 --> 00:20:05,100 They crushed Stanford and set one of that match and then lost the next three. 303 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:08,400 It was just poor choices. 304 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,300 I think I can get behind that. 305 00:20:10,300 --> 00:20:16,900 They were actually statistically better in their loss than they were in their win. 306 00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:22,400 Well, yeah, they crushed Stanford in the first set and I think that everybody stats got padded in that set. 307 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,500 And then the next three were very close. 308 00:20:24,500 --> 00:20:28,000 I think every set was by two points or something correct. 309 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:34,000 So and that's the difference is when sets are that close. 310 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:43,400 It is the one or two bad choices the one or two plays that you lose focus or aren't mindful that makes the difference. 311 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:49,900 Yeah, and you can look at their mistakes to me were after 20 where they were undisciplined. 312 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:54,400 They had four net touches in that match to Stanford zero. 313 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,800 I believe at least three of them were down the stretch post 20. 314 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:06,300 There were stretches where they missed two serves at the end of matches and they just didn't give themselves a chance. 315 00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:08,900 The center was set a completely unhittable wall. 316 00:21:08,900 --> 00:21:09,400 Correct. 317 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:15,200 No, like the angle that they chose to set was just like as a hitter impossible. 318 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,600 So let's talk about Trey Rosenthal a little bit here. 319 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:26,900 So he's a 611 setter and anytime you hear about a setter being that big you're excited because they're not a liability when they're blocking. 320 00:21:26,900 --> 00:21:28,600 They're going to be able to generate some points. 321 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,100 The biggest liability blocking for that team though. 322 00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:43,200 I think in general you don't have that size mismatch and but what I want to highlight are some of the difficulties of setting when you're taller than your hitters. 323 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:56,200 So you can set a really flat ball and that increases your tempo because where you're contacting the ball as a setter and where your hitters are hitting that ball is on the same level generally on the same plane. 324 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,300 And that is really good for running your offense. 325 00:21:59,300 --> 00:22:08,600 And I thought in the first match that they played he did a really good job of delivering those flat balls both to the middle and to the outside hitters. 326 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,000 Now, I thought they also passed better in the first game. 327 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,500 Tred was setting from good places. 328 00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:15,500 He was balanced. 329 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:20,000 He was able to take the ball well and deliver what he wanted. 330 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:26,300 In the second game, Stanford did a better job of moving the passers around and playing with the depths of their serves. 331 00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:29,300 We saw Tred setting balls from around the attack line. 332 00:22:29,300 --> 00:22:37,600 Some of them he had to go to his knees and run around setting a bunch of balls in four and in position two. 333 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,700 And I thought that threw off his rhythm. 334 00:22:39,700 --> 00:22:41,200 He wasn't able to get a square. 335 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,600 Some of the balls got tight. 336 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,400 Some of the distances weren't very, very good. 337 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,800 And that put his hitters in a tough position. 338 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:57,700 That was to me the biggest difference was the passing broke down and Tred wasn't able to fix some of those sets and put his hitters in the same position. 339 00:22:57,700 --> 00:23:01,700 Well, I'm curious if you like as a hitter, you're a tall hitter as well. 340 00:23:01,700 --> 00:23:03,800 You've played with a bunch of setters like does it. 341 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,400 Did you see the same thing? 342 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:13,700 Obviously, you could see the setter running around, but did I think that the passing was that much more terrible in the second match than the first? 343 00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:16,100 I mean, I think we're saying the same thing. 344 00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:20,600 Like the setting execution and decision making was not as good. 345 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:30,800 I think with Tred being as large as he is and needing to take the ball at that apex to run the offense as they want, they have to pass well. 346 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:37,700 And it's harder for him to fix those than let's say maybe a more a smaller, quicker, agile, more agile setter. 347 00:23:37,700 --> 00:23:43,700 And Tred moves really well for being 6'11", but there are just realities to being that tall versus some smaller players. 348 00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:47,000 I didn't think he fixed those balls as well as he needed to. 349 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,000 I am obsessed with Luis Sakonoko, though. 350 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,100 I think that he is the full package. 351 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:58,300 He generally passes well. 352 00:23:58,300 --> 00:24:01,800 He plays quite good defense. 353 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,800 His attacking ability is incredible. 354 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,900 He sets well out of system. 355 00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:10,900 I was so impressed with his complete game. 356 00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:19,300 And while their opposite, Christian Tetriski, offensively is almost unstoppable. 357 00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:20,700 The buck stops there. 358 00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:28,000 Like he's a very, very typical opposite where it's like my job is to score points and then like you're lucky. 359 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,800 If I'll touch a ball on defense. 360 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,300 There was one play where Rosenthal was blocking. 361 00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:35,300 He saw that the Stanford left side was going to use him. 362 00:24:35,300 --> 00:24:37,400 He pulled his hands down. 363 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,500 So there was no touch and Tetriski. 364 00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:45,300 That was the only ball that he dug was out of bounds and he dug it into the stands. 365 00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:50,200 So not only are you not digging, but on smart plays by your setter, you're costing your team points. 366 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:57,400 So, yeah, Sakonoko full package, Tetriski point score to the max. 367 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,000 The way that they serve, they are going for it. 368 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,800 Like they're tossing this ball almost to the 10 foot line. 369 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,500 Okay. 370 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:08,400 And the way they've dialed in their approach every time I'm like, did they step on the line? 371 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,400 I was like, no. 372 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:19,100 I think on paper, Hawaii is a much better team, a much more skilled team. 373 00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:25,300 They have those dominant pieces that are missing from the Stanford side. 374 00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:35,700 It's just they didn't show up in the same way and their consistency faltered a little bit where Stanford stayed. 375 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:39,400 Despite having to save almost every single ball that that setter set. 376 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,200 Well, but I do think you have to give Stanford a little bit of credit. 377 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:49,300 So here are the things that I thought they did better in the second match than in the first one. 378 00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:52,000 I think their serving location was better. 379 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,800 I thought overall Stanford made better adjustments. 380 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,000 So change their serving technique. 381 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,600 They did get some worse passing out of Hawaii. 382 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:08,800 I thought their defensive adjustments, they had the same number of digs in their win versus their loss and they played one more set. 383 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,900 I thought they were able to extend more rallies in those situations. 384 00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:16,000 And I think it was a bit of game plan in that regard. 385 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,300 They managed to neutralize the second left side for Hawaii. 386 00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:27,700 And while that wasn't only his fault, I think it was part of the plan in terms of where they were serving and what they were trying to do. 387 00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:36,400 And I also think that the setter did a better job of running more middle in that second match than he did. 388 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:43,900 It still wasn't a ton, but he managed to get Carrera a few balls and he ended up being very efficient. 389 00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:47,400 He had 10 sets overall, but he had seven kills, no errors. 390 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,400 So it was a little. 391 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,500 I don't think I've seen that wainwright at all. 392 00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:52,500 I don't think I've seen that guy hit a ball. 393 00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:55,500 Well, he would have watched multiple Stanford matches. 394 00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:56,500 Yeah, fair. 395 00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:58,100 I mean, he got nine sets, four kills. 396 00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:11,300 He's not particularly offensive, but they did get the other middle some touches and it created a few more seams and a little more one on one or one on one and a half situations for their outside hitters. 397 00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:16,400 So I did like the adjustments that Stanford made from the second match to the first match. 398 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:23,500 So to sum this up, let's look at kind of position by position who you think won those battles. 399 00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:27,500 So I think you're a fan of the Hawaii setter over the. 400 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:30,500 I wouldn't say a fan, but compared to the Stanford setter. 401 00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:32,100 Yes. 402 00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:35,300 Who do you think won the middle battle? 403 00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:53,000 Stanford in the first match had 16 block assists to Hawaii's five and four solo blocks to Hawaii's two and in the second match, Stanford had 13 block assists to Hawaii's 14 and one solo to Hawaii's three. 404 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,000 So Hawaii actually blocked much better in the match that they lost in the match that they won. 405 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,500 Well, the commentators were saying the same thing in the first match. 406 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:05,200 They were shocked that Hawaii hadn't been getting blocks early because they usually do. 407 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:12,500 I think both teams kind of have one middle that they use more than the other. 408 00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:19,100 I think Neusterer for Hawaii, he kind of brings everything to the court. 409 00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:23,900 Like he scores, he puts up a decent block, he serves well. 410 00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:26,300 Carrera, same thing. 411 00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:27,200 He's steady. 412 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,900 He is obviously used more in a blocking sense. 413 00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:42,400 But and then there's the other Hazan for Hawaii and Wainwright for Stanford who are more blocking middles and Hazan is quite a bit smaller than Rosenthal. 414 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,300 So the connection there is kind of missing. 415 00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:45,800 He's almost setting down to him. 416 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,100 Yeah, Rosenthal is setting it down and he misses a lot. 417 00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,600 Like the mismatch in height there is just really tough. 418 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,700 So they don't really set him all that often. 419 00:28:55,700 --> 00:29:02,000 But I would say the middle battle was I would give it a slight edge to Hawaii. 420 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,100 I think Neusterer pushed it over the edge for me. 421 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:05,900 Fair enough. 422 00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:10,100 I thought the Stanford libero was better than the Hawaii libero. 423 00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:12,300 Is he okay? 424 00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:17,800 Oh, I don't think I've ever seen somebody get hit in the face as hard as this guy did. 425 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,600 Okay, here's a little context. 426 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,900 Obviously, you guys can't see this. 427 00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:22,800 I'm sure there's a highlight reel somewhere. 428 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:29,400 But we had Sakunoko coming out of the back row right over top of a middle run, 429 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:38,000 which both players committed on and the libero for Stanford took it straight in the face. 430 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,200 No hands, no nothing. 431 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:46,000 I think Sakunoko may have landed on the other side underneath the net when he landed from that attack. 432 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,200 It happened so fast. 433 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:48,800 It was wild. 434 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,700 I think I almost passed away. 435 00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:53,900 I felt that impact from my couch. 436 00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:55,300 Wow. 437 00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:58,500 And to his credit, he got up. 438 00:29:58,500 --> 00:29:59,400 Didn't even touch it. 439 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,800 Didn't even touch his face. 440 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:07,500 There was a mandatory quick little check on him and he was back out and made a dig right after that. 441 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:10,800 Like that to me was impressive to watch. 442 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,000 So I liked him. 443 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:20,000 Just let everybody else know Sakunoko also took out Moses Wagner in the first match and Tred Rosenthal took one so hard in the beak. 444 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,500 Oh, he had to cover his face with his jersey during the rally. 445 00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:28,900 Like the number of bombs that these guys took to the face. 446 00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:30,300 There was some head hunting going on. 447 00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:31,400 Wow. 448 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,000 Wow. 449 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,200 It was crazy. 450 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,300 Of the teams that I've watched so far, I really, really enjoy watching Hawaii. 451 00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:42,900 I think like I said, the team as a whole has so much potential. 452 00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:44,000 They're a full package. 453 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,600 They have personality. 454 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:53,800 They are skilled, they're athletic, dynamic, like they make digs, you know, except for Tetris game. 455 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,100 Just kidding. 456 00:30:55,100 --> 00:31:02,900 But like they are playing full well-rounded volleyball and they're really, really fun to watch. 457 00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:06,900 So hopefully this is a wake-up call for them and they're able to bounce back. 458 00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:11,500 Stanford, like I wouldn't say they're a fun team to watch. 459 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:12,800 They're steady. 460 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,500 They execute well. 461 00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:18,800 You know, they're methodical in what they do. 462 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:26,200 And they make teams pay attention and execute their game plan because they're that team that like will sneak up on you 463 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,200 and then the game's over before you notice. 464 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,800 So I'm curious to see how this progresses. 465 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,100 But that back-to-back series was so fun. 466 00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:37,500 Outstanding. 467 00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:42,600 Our second feature match of the week is Love Houston versus Austin. 468 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,600 What is your take? 469 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,600 I thought the volleyball was really competitive. 470 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,400 It was an entertaining game, very close. 471 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,700 We had the first set was 33-31, I think. 472 00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:56,200 The second set was also incredibly close. 473 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,700 So it was definitely entertaining. 474 00:31:57,700 --> 00:32:04,800 We saw a right side battle, I think, between Maddy Skinner and Jordan Thompson. 475 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:11,400 So that was interesting to watch and, you know, a storyline in terms of current Olympic opposite 476 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,000 and maybe a future Olympic opposite. 477 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,100 So there were some storylines to watch and I thought the volleyball was pretty good. 478 00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:20,400 We saw leads being blown. 479 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,100 Correct. 480 00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:24,000 In every single set, it seemed, except set four. 481 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,200 Like teams would be a big and then poof, the lead is gone. 482 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,200 Well, it was interesting. 483 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:39,600 You had, I think Maddy Skinner had 10 or 11 points, maybe 10 kills in one service or block point in set one. 484 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,800 And they ended up losing that set, which to me was crazy. 485 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,600 I mean, Jordan Thompson played well on that first set as well, but Maddy Skinner was untouchable. 486 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,500 I mean, 10 points in a set. 487 00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:54,100 Granted, it was like a set and a half because it was like 33-31. 488 00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:58,700 But I felt like she scored most of her points at the beginning of that set because towards the end, 489 00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:02,500 like when we were in overtime, she wasn't that effective. 490 00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,200 She had a, I think she got blocked. 491 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,000 She had a hitting error. 492 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,500 She was dug twice and she scored once. 493 00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:13,400 Like if you have a player who scores that many points in one set, you need to capitalize on those performances. 494 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,000 Like what is the rest of the team doing? 495 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,600 Yeah, it was. 496 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,800 If one person is scoring a third of the points, like you guys, let's just get a couple more each. 497 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:29,800 I thought in general, the setting for Austin was lacking, for a better word. 498 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,800 When I was thinking about what I thought the difference makers were, 499 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,700 I think it was honestly the setting in the right side. 500 00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:43,200 I think that those were the pieces that kind of pushed Houston over the edge. 501 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,900 I think the left side battle was pretty evenly matched. 502 00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:50,300 I don't really think the left sides for either team did much. 503 00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:53,400 Logan Eggleston came in and did a very good job. 504 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,900 I will give her that. 505 00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:55,300 Correct. 506 00:33:55,300 --> 00:34:01,200 But until that sub was made, the left sides for both teams, I was like, man, this is a struggle. 507 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,000 And the middle is kind of the same thing. 508 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,600 You're not seeing a ton of production. 509 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,700 And I'm like, why is Austin not setting Ugg Bogumore? 510 00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:12,400 That's a head scratcher. 511 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,700 But we've talked about this with Austin kind of all season long, 512 00:34:16,700 --> 00:34:22,800 is that they haven't found a starting lineup that has stuck for them. 513 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,300 They always seem to be rotating players in and out. 514 00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:31,900 We saw the setter switch from the first set to the second set with Carly Lloyd coming in. 515 00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:35,400 They would do the double sub and then not take it out and leave it. 516 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,900 It just feels like they... 517 00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:42,400 Someone also mentioned Hardman was playing, and I think it was only her the second match that she ever played. 518 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,800 And it's like, where is this coming from? 519 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,400 Yeah, they haven't... 520 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,500 They're clearly scrambling to find something that works. 521 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:53,300 And then in the middle of the match, taking out Molly McCage, putting in Asia O'Neil, 522 00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:56,400 they are just in and out trying to figure something out. 523 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,300 Like the only consistent player is Zoe Jarvis. 524 00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:01,300 Well, and yeah, fair. 525 00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:04,400 Maddie Skinner was on the bench for a set and a half almost. 526 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,000 True. 527 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,200 You said consistent player in terms of them being on the court. 528 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,400 And I just... 529 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:18,500 You would think after five weeks, you would have either figured out who needs to play 530 00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:22,500 or built in some consistency towards having six players on the court. 531 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:28,000 Because they should be, in my opinion, with the roster that they have, winning more matches than they are. 532 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,100 I... 533 00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:30,700 I mean, I say this all the time. 534 00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:31,900 I thought Madison would be good. 535 00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:34,200 I thought Austin would be near the top too. 536 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,600 Like I thought their potential was definitely there. 537 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,400 But you have Jarvis who's passing pretty well. 538 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,300 Eggleston, I know she's working on her passing. 539 00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:47,500 She's a traditional P1. 540 00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:49,100 She's your point scoring left side. 541 00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:58,400 But you have a decent passing left side in Hawk, in Janari, who can be that other piece. 542 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,100 It's like why are you putting in Hardman? 543 00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,600 Like why are you... 544 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,300 Well, Hawk... 545 00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:08,000 Just the... Hawk's offensive ability was not... 546 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,300 She wasn't there this match, I thought. 547 00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:11,300 She definitely wasn't. 548 00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:16,400 But like if you're passing well enough, you can run your middle more. 549 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,100 You can run your right side comfortably. 550 00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:19,400 You can create seams. 551 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,400 You can do this thing. 552 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:26,800 Like you don't have to be a left side that is scoring a ton of points. 553 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,400 That's not every left side's role. 554 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,900 Well, but she struggled to pass too. 555 00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:36,100 They picked on her and she was only passing in system balls 16.7% of the time. 556 00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:40,900 You need a left side on the court who can deliver some passes because right now your 557 00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:44,700 only one person who's doing that is your libero. 558 00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:48,500 Well, and then I see that as it's a two-fold problem, right? 559 00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:54,200 So if your passing is not amazing, your setters need to be able to fix those balls and put 560 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,900 your hitters in good positions. 561 00:36:55,900 --> 00:37:02,100 But they are struggling to pass consistently and their setters have not found a rhythm 562 00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:03,100 yet. 563 00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:07,500 Carly Lloyd is... still looks like she's trying to find her footing. 564 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:09,500 Well, Tora started. 565 00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:11,300 And I didn't think she was very good. 566 00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:14,400 Like there's just too much in and out. 567 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,500 They've got to find some consistency because they have the pieces to be good. 568 00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:22,380 And like you said, they need to find a Baugu more. 569 00:37:22,380 --> 00:37:26,140 She needs to be a bigger offensive threat. 570 00:37:26,140 --> 00:37:27,660 She is great at the net. 571 00:37:27,660 --> 00:37:28,700 She's getting blocks. 572 00:37:28,700 --> 00:37:31,940 She's affecting the game that way, but you need her to be a centerpiece of what you're 573 00:37:31,940 --> 00:37:32,940 trying to do. 574 00:37:32,940 --> 00:37:34,900 And either you're passing your setting needs to be better. 575 00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:38,060 Honestly, watching that match, I'm like, how did Houston win? 576 00:37:38,060 --> 00:37:40,780 Because like Merzik was very quiet. 577 00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:41,780 Average. 578 00:37:41,780 --> 00:37:43,180 She hit 0-70 on the match. 579 00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:45,780 She just like was having issues. 580 00:37:45,780 --> 00:37:48,180 Richel, same thing. 581 00:37:48,180 --> 00:37:51,340 From the eye test watching, I'm like, is she doing anything? 582 00:37:51,340 --> 00:37:55,420 Like she passes, she was digging some balls, but like from a point scoring perspective, 583 00:37:55,420 --> 00:37:56,420 I was like, eh. 584 00:37:56,420 --> 00:38:01,100 That's interesting that you say that because she had 19 points and hit 316. 585 00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:02,100 Fabulous. 586 00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:03,100 Excellent. 587 00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:06,060 But that's her role as a left side. 588 00:38:06,060 --> 00:38:08,100 She's not super dynamic. 589 00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:10,200 She's not flashy. 590 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,740 She moves the ball around and makes plays. 591 00:38:12,740 --> 00:38:16,920 She's one of those players that if you don't really notice her, she's doing her job. 592 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,660 And so she quietly was their second best attacker. 593 00:38:21,660 --> 00:38:27,340 And if you're going to win consistently against good teams, that probably can't be the case. 594 00:38:27,340 --> 00:38:28,660 Well Merzik needed to be better. 595 00:38:28,660 --> 00:38:29,660 Well they won. 596 00:38:29,660 --> 00:38:35,580 But still, like the standard that she has set for herself for her capability, she was 597 00:38:35,580 --> 00:38:38,020 far under that, I would say. 598 00:38:38,020 --> 00:38:41,900 Jordan Thompson, however, she's been very up and down. 599 00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:45,780 And I think that she played well this match. 600 00:38:45,780 --> 00:38:47,580 She was the reason that they won. 601 00:38:47,580 --> 00:38:53,560 So she went head to head with Skinner in the first set and then down the stretch in overtime, 602 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,820 she scored points. 603 00:38:54,820 --> 00:38:58,220 She was the difference maker in that, in my opinion. 604 00:38:58,220 --> 00:39:02,180 And I also thought that Micah Hancock had a really good game. 605 00:39:02,180 --> 00:39:03,600 I liked her offense. 606 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,900 She was serving well. 607 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:08,020 I think her decisions to attack the ball were good. 608 00:39:08,020 --> 00:39:10,940 I really, really liked her in that match. 609 00:39:10,940 --> 00:39:12,740 And here's a big difference. 610 00:39:12,740 --> 00:39:15,100 I know we've gotten a ton of questions. 611 00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:18,780 Jordan Thompson versus Madison Skinner, blah, blah, blah. 612 00:39:18,780 --> 00:39:24,140 Here's the difference that I noticed between those two players in this particular match. 613 00:39:24,140 --> 00:39:28,820 Jordan Thompson was going up and hitting angles. 614 00:39:28,820 --> 00:39:34,060 Sharp cross, high seam, down the line, deep corner. 615 00:39:34,060 --> 00:39:36,940 Madison Skinner was hitting straight. 616 00:39:36,940 --> 00:39:42,940 And that is not going to cut it as an opposite, as any, as any hitter. 617 00:39:42,940 --> 00:39:43,940 Okay? 618 00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:49,460 Because you get to a higher and higher level, hitting straight is not going to do it. 619 00:39:49,460 --> 00:39:54,060 So that was the difference for me is Jordan Thompson was finding angles. 620 00:39:54,060 --> 00:39:57,360 Madison Skinner got lucky because she got some broken blocks. 621 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,040 She got some seams sometimes. 622 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,540 She had to like throw the ball around to fix tight sets, whatever. 623 00:40:03,540 --> 00:40:06,220 But that was my takeaway watching the two of them. 624 00:40:06,220 --> 00:40:11,060 Well, and let's talk about, because we get lots of questions about US national team, 625 00:40:11,060 --> 00:40:16,420 about internationally, and this is the progression for athletes as they move kind of from one 626 00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:18,180 phase of their career to the other. 627 00:40:18,180 --> 00:40:24,060 So in college, Maddie Skinner is just physically dominant compared to the players that she's 628 00:40:24,060 --> 00:40:25,060 playing. 629 00:40:25,060 --> 00:40:30,780 She can just go up, jump high, swing hard and deep, which she does really well and score. 630 00:40:30,780 --> 00:40:35,340 And she is still seeing that success at the love level. 631 00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:42,700 And you have better athletes, bigger athletes, but you don't have international caliber national 632 00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:43,780 team athletes. 633 00:40:43,780 --> 00:40:48,420 And so we're, and we're going to address this question later, but that is going to be one 634 00:40:48,420 --> 00:40:53,340 of the things she's going to have to learn how to do if she wants to compete with, let's 635 00:40:53,340 --> 00:40:57,860 say a Jordan Thompson for a national team spot is find some angles, find some consistency 636 00:40:57,860 --> 00:40:59,660 and be able to move the ball around. 637 00:40:59,660 --> 00:41:07,380 I also think for Houston to continue to become a dominant team, they also need to run the 638 00:41:07,380 --> 00:41:08,380 middle more. 639 00:41:08,380 --> 00:41:09,380 Also, yes. 640 00:41:09,380 --> 00:41:12,780 I mean, I know that's something that we talk about a lot. 641 00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:19,580 If we, that is the one consistent thing we say every episode, run the middle more. 642 00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:24,820 You know, in fairness, it looks like Micah Hancock and Amber Ajid's connection is getting 643 00:41:24,820 --> 00:41:25,820 better. 644 00:41:25,820 --> 00:41:30,340 She had 13 points, but she's only getting like 14 attempts. 645 00:41:30,340 --> 00:41:31,340 She hit 500. 646 00:41:31,340 --> 00:41:37,560 Like, there's no reason to not be able to get her the ball a little more often. 647 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,660 And I actually thought that for the most part, Houston passed pretty well because you had 648 00:41:42,660 --> 00:41:46,520 like their libero and a Pogany. 649 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,020 She's passing a lot of the court and she's doing a great job. 650 00:41:49,020 --> 00:41:51,980 She played better than I have seen her play in the past. 651 00:41:51,980 --> 00:41:54,900 I thought that she had a good game. 652 00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:56,380 Yeah, I would agree. 653 00:41:56,380 --> 00:42:00,780 And I think that Jess Mirzik wasn't great offensively, but she almost passed. 654 00:42:00,780 --> 00:42:07,780 Like, she's at 36% in system passes, which, you know, it's not amazing, but it's getting 655 00:42:07,780 --> 00:42:08,780 better. 656 00:42:08,780 --> 00:42:13,780 You can tell she's focused on that part of her game and that's only going to help. 657 00:42:13,780 --> 00:42:17,300 I thought Houston missed a ton of serves though, like in the middle of the net. 658 00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:18,300 Yeah, I agree. 659 00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:20,220 They did miss a lot of serves. 660 00:42:20,220 --> 00:42:24,820 But again, when you have their setters struggling and their passers struggling, you just stay 661 00:42:24,820 --> 00:42:28,940 aggressive and you're going to turn points and you're going to get chances. 662 00:42:28,940 --> 00:42:32,460 There were definite issues on both sides. 663 00:42:32,460 --> 00:42:35,420 The games were very tight, very back and forth. 664 00:42:35,420 --> 00:42:37,820 Do I love seeing a big lead blown? 665 00:42:37,820 --> 00:42:38,900 Absolutely not. 666 00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:44,740 But in a tight match like that and looking at the difference makers, I do think that 667 00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:50,020 the, like we said, the things that pushed Houston over the edge were their setting ability 668 00:42:50,020 --> 00:42:52,180 and Jordan Thompson. 669 00:42:52,180 --> 00:42:56,300 Well, you think about after 20, what are the most important things? 670 00:42:56,300 --> 00:42:58,540 It's decision making and it's execution. 671 00:42:58,540 --> 00:43:04,140 And when you have Micah Hancock touching the ball every second contact and making good 672 00:43:04,140 --> 00:43:09,660 decisions and putting hitters in positive situations and then Jordan Thompson executing 673 00:43:09,660 --> 00:43:12,860 on top of that, she just knows where to put the ball. 674 00:43:12,860 --> 00:43:17,100 And they're, like you said, better decisions down the stretch, especially when it was close. 675 00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:19,540 Okay, I have a question for you actually. 676 00:43:19,540 --> 00:43:28,260 Okay, so we know how the Austin team keeps pushing this narrative of the lovehorns because 677 00:43:28,260 --> 00:43:34,060 so many of them played at Texas and during timeouts, you could actually see them putting 678 00:43:34,060 --> 00:43:35,980 their hands in the middle like this. 679 00:43:35,980 --> 00:43:42,780 Do you think that that is a factor in their lack of success? 680 00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:45,700 Oh, that's a great question. 681 00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:50,500 To me, they're missing cohesiveness and identity. 682 00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:56,180 And I think that things like that can definitely play a role. 683 00:43:56,180 --> 00:43:58,140 That was my instinct too. 684 00:43:58,140 --> 00:44:00,340 Because I know you're in Texas. 685 00:44:00,340 --> 00:44:06,420 I know you all went to Texas, but you have more players on your team than just that. 686 00:44:06,420 --> 00:44:11,420 And it becomes, it's hard to enter into an environment like that where you know you're 687 00:44:11,420 --> 00:44:13,500 an outsider. 688 00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:17,340 And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the personalities on the team, but you're 689 00:44:17,340 --> 00:44:20,500 always, like you don't identify as a Longhorn. 690 00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:25,860 You've got more than half the team who is just playing along for a narrative. 691 00:44:25,860 --> 00:44:29,220 And the coaching staff, it doesn't, there's no connection. 692 00:44:29,220 --> 00:44:30,220 Yeah. 693 00:44:30,220 --> 00:44:33,060 Well, not to mention this isn't college anymore. 694 00:44:33,060 --> 00:44:34,900 This is professional volleyball. 695 00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:39,580 You can definitely be proud of where you went to school and that can always kind of be a 696 00:44:39,580 --> 00:44:46,060 part of your pride and your identity, but to bring that into a professional environment, 697 00:44:46,060 --> 00:44:49,540 I think is like holding you back a little bit. 698 00:44:49,540 --> 00:44:54,620 Well, and you can't control the narratives that happen outside of your team, but you 699 00:44:54,620 --> 00:44:57,640 can control what happens inside of your team. 700 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:06,020 And for that to be, when it's such an interesting dynamic, because love in general doesn't create 701 00:45:06,020 --> 00:45:11,300 like team cohesiveness, your love, Austin. 702 00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:15,900 And so, you know, maybe it's a way of trying to create some team unity, like the thought 703 00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:20,860 process around that is their own, but you're in using the Longhorns because so many of 704 00:45:20,860 --> 00:45:22,540 them went to Texas. 705 00:45:22,540 --> 00:45:26,740 It could possibly be creating even unknowingly a rift or... 706 00:45:26,740 --> 00:45:32,620 Well, I'm just like, if you go overseas and you are talking about like, yeah, I am a Texas 707 00:45:32,620 --> 00:45:35,660 Longhorn, people will be like, who cares? 708 00:45:35,660 --> 00:45:36,660 You know what I mean? 709 00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:40,140 It's like, we're here to play volleyball and we're here to win, like, congratulations, 710 00:45:40,140 --> 00:45:42,140 but like, come on. 711 00:45:42,140 --> 00:45:45,540 And let's be honest, we're not talking about this if they're winning, but the fact that 712 00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:52,300 they haven't found a consistent roster and they seem to lack cohesiveness, maybe. 713 00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:54,500 It's an interesting, I hadn't thought about that, but it's an interesting question. 714 00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:59,460 Well, I just noticed it at one of the timeouts that like a few of them were putting the horns 715 00:45:59,460 --> 00:46:03,260 into the middle and I'm like, you've got to be kidding me right now. 716 00:46:03,260 --> 00:46:05,820 Like, come on, no. 717 00:46:05,820 --> 00:46:07,660 I as well see how it plays out. 718 00:46:07,660 --> 00:46:10,820 Overall, I thought this was an incredibly entertaining match. 719 00:46:10,820 --> 00:46:13,900 I always love a good overtime. 720 00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:17,100 You have players feeling the pressure, decision making. 721 00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:19,420 I think it shows what teams are made of. 722 00:46:19,420 --> 00:46:26,460 It was Houston coming up on two of those matches that were very tight with, again, good setting 723 00:46:26,460 --> 00:46:28,380 and a good right side hitter, I think. 724 00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:29,740 Overall, I was entertained. 725 00:46:29,740 --> 00:46:30,740 I enjoyed the volleyball. 726 00:46:30,740 --> 00:46:33,900 I thought it was a good high level match. 727 00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:34,900 All right. 728 00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:39,660 So we are coming up on not quite the halfway point for the love season. 729 00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:45,060 I think it's 16 weeks and we've completed five, but they are heading into their mid 730 00:46:45,060 --> 00:46:46,500 season tournament. 731 00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:53,000 And so I was thinking today we are going to play Magic GM. 732 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:59,120 So if you were the GM for all of these teams and we'll go through them, you're out trying 733 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,260 to make your team better, you need to pick the position. 734 00:47:03,260 --> 00:47:08,060 We're not going to say the player, but that you would address at, let's call it the trade 735 00:47:08,060 --> 00:47:10,500 deadline for love. 736 00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:14,100 So I'm going to give you a team and I will do this as well. 737 00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:19,540 You tell me what position would be your highest concern that you would want to address to 738 00:47:19,540 --> 00:47:20,540 finish the season. 739 00:47:20,540 --> 00:47:21,540 So I just pick one position. 740 00:47:21,540 --> 00:47:22,540 Pick one position. 741 00:47:22,540 --> 00:47:23,540 Okay. 742 00:47:23,540 --> 00:47:28,060 So we're going to start from the top of the league in love and we're going to go to the 743 00:47:28,060 --> 00:47:29,060 bottom. 744 00:47:29,060 --> 00:47:33,300 So we're going to do love this week and then either next week or the week after we will 745 00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:35,140 do the same thing for PVF. 746 00:47:35,140 --> 00:47:38,140 PVF season's a little bit longer and they have a few more teams. 747 00:47:38,140 --> 00:47:42,460 So I want to see a few more matches from all the teams before we do this. 748 00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:44,940 So that's why we're choosing one over the other. 749 00:47:44,940 --> 00:47:47,180 But let's get started with this. 750 00:47:47,180 --> 00:47:48,180 Let's start with Atlanta. 751 00:47:48,180 --> 00:47:53,100 They're at the top of the league as the Atlanta GM. 752 00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:54,100 What are you looking to do? 753 00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:56,620 Oh gosh, it's been a while since I've seen Atlanta play. 754 00:47:56,620 --> 00:47:57,620 Hmm. 755 00:47:57,620 --> 00:47:59,300 They're doing well though. 756 00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:02,980 If a team's doing well, should you just like leave it be? 757 00:48:02,980 --> 00:48:03,980 You're the GM. 758 00:48:03,980 --> 00:48:05,380 You can make any decision you want. 759 00:48:05,380 --> 00:48:07,020 I mean they're cruising. 760 00:48:07,020 --> 00:48:08,180 I wouldn't touch it. 761 00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:12,260 I had the exact same instinct. 762 00:48:12,260 --> 00:48:13,460 I am sitting back. 763 00:48:13,460 --> 00:48:15,260 I'm watching matches from the suite. 764 00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:17,100 If it ain't broke, don't fix it. 765 00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:21,780 I've got a couple beers sitting beside me and I am just enjoying watching my team play 766 00:48:21,780 --> 00:48:22,780 well. 767 00:48:22,780 --> 00:48:23,780 I wouldn't mess with the chemistry. 768 00:48:23,780 --> 00:48:24,780 I wouldn't change anything. 769 00:48:24,780 --> 00:48:26,780 I think they're cruising. 770 00:48:26,780 --> 00:48:31,900 Let's go to Omaha in number two in the league. 771 00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:33,940 What are you looking at for them? 772 00:48:33,940 --> 00:48:35,860 I like Omaha's chemistry. 773 00:48:35,860 --> 00:48:39,180 I think they're doing pretty well. 774 00:48:39,180 --> 00:48:47,300 If I had to think of positions that could use work, it would be maybe one of the outsides 775 00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:48,580 or the setter. 776 00:48:48,580 --> 00:48:51,660 I would switch up an outside. 777 00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:53,540 I had the same instinct. 778 00:48:53,540 --> 00:49:00,180 I think if you look at Omaha's metrics as a team, they are winning. 779 00:49:00,180 --> 00:49:05,580 I think a lot of that has to do with the experience that they have on their roster and they're 780 00:49:05,580 --> 00:49:08,860 able to sort out situations. 781 00:49:08,860 --> 00:49:11,740 Long term, I think they need a go-to hitter. 782 00:49:11,740 --> 00:49:16,180 They need somebody to score points for them. 783 00:49:16,180 --> 00:49:18,740 Whether that's on the left side, whether that's on the right side. 784 00:49:18,740 --> 00:49:21,740 They have Dravignac who scores on the right side. 785 00:49:21,740 --> 00:49:26,940 She's not really at the top of the league on inconsistent... 786 00:49:26,940 --> 00:49:28,220 I'm not going to lie. 787 00:49:28,220 --> 00:49:31,020 When I was saying outside, the player I was thinking was Winters. 788 00:49:31,020 --> 00:49:33,540 I know people love her. 789 00:49:33,540 --> 00:49:34,860 I'm not a fan. 790 00:49:34,860 --> 00:49:40,340 If you're going to be that inconsistent with your ball control, you better be scoring a 791 00:49:40,340 --> 00:49:42,200 ton of points. 792 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,900 You're thinking a Sarah Franklin or a Jess Merzick level of point production. 793 00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:46,900 Yeah. 794 00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:51,980 I think she has a great ball control from Jordan as the second outside. 795 00:49:51,980 --> 00:50:00,740 Jordan's finding ways to score, but I think a big time left side point score. 796 00:50:00,740 --> 00:50:01,940 I think that's fair. 797 00:50:01,940 --> 00:50:06,040 I think that that's going to be... If they run into trouble down the stretch, it's going 798 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,620 to be because they can't generate enough points that way. 799 00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:09,620 All right. 800 00:50:09,620 --> 00:50:11,780 What do you think about Houston? 801 00:50:11,780 --> 00:50:15,900 I would probably pick up a LeBaro. 802 00:50:15,900 --> 00:50:16,900 Oh, interesting. 803 00:50:16,900 --> 00:50:23,020 Pagani, I know I said she played well in the Austin match, but generally speaking, I haven't 804 00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:27,300 loved her defensive ability. 805 00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:34,540 She hasn't been picking up... If I'm looking at Kojima or Juan Orantes as the standard, 806 00:50:34,540 --> 00:50:35,860 she's just not there. 807 00:50:35,860 --> 00:50:38,540 She's not digging nearly enough balls in my opinion. 808 00:50:38,540 --> 00:50:43,660 I think Houston has the pieces, but I would make a switch at that position. 809 00:50:43,660 --> 00:50:46,060 I'd pick up a second middle. 810 00:50:46,060 --> 00:50:48,980 I'd want to be a little more of a threat. 811 00:50:48,980 --> 00:50:54,020 I think they've got one great middle, and that's where I would go with their team. 812 00:50:54,020 --> 00:50:57,340 Moving on to Salt Lake. 813 00:50:57,340 --> 00:51:00,060 What are you thinking? 814 00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:03,340 If I was Salt Lake, I would get a second left side. 815 00:51:03,340 --> 00:51:05,580 I know what you're going to say in the middle. 816 00:51:05,580 --> 00:51:08,140 I think they have the pieces for the middle. 817 00:51:08,140 --> 00:51:12,860 I don't necessarily agree with who they're playing in the middle. 818 00:51:12,860 --> 00:51:17,900 That position that's on rotation with Danny Drews, and then they're bringing in all these 819 00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:22,580 people, that is the position that I think is their Achilles heel. 820 00:51:22,580 --> 00:51:23,580 You are right. 821 00:51:23,580 --> 00:51:25,900 I am leaning to a middle. 822 00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:32,220 They have not found consistent production or rotations with their middles. 823 00:51:32,220 --> 00:51:34,780 I think they have a good outside core. 824 00:51:34,780 --> 00:51:38,940 I think they have the ability to weaponize the middle with Jordan Poulter. 825 00:51:38,940 --> 00:51:40,220 I think they could. 826 00:51:40,220 --> 00:51:45,260 I know you are not a Torrie Dixon fan, but they have Serena Gray. 827 00:51:45,260 --> 00:51:50,780 I think that Serena Gray was doing pretty well when she was getting set the ball, but 828 00:51:50,780 --> 00:51:54,460 then they just aren't playing her, and they're favoring Dixon over her. 829 00:51:54,460 --> 00:51:56,340 That's why I said I think they have the pieces. 830 00:51:56,340 --> 00:51:59,420 I just don't agree with how they're using the pieces. 831 00:51:59,420 --> 00:52:02,420 How they use the pieces is the coach's job. 832 00:52:02,420 --> 00:52:06,500 As a GM, I'm looking at the middle of the court, and I'm saying we need to be stronger 833 00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:07,500 here. 834 00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:08,500 That's what I'm looking for. 835 00:52:08,500 --> 00:52:13,980 I think down to the bottom of the barrel here in terms of the love teams, we just watched 836 00:52:13,980 --> 00:52:17,260 them play, so I think I know what you're going to say. 837 00:52:17,260 --> 00:52:20,660 But if you're the Austin GM, what are you looking at? 838 00:52:20,660 --> 00:52:21,660 A setter. 839 00:52:21,660 --> 00:52:22,660 A setter. 840 00:52:22,660 --> 00:52:23,660 Yeah. 841 00:52:23,660 --> 00:52:24,660 Hands down. 842 00:52:24,660 --> 00:52:26,180 I think you have a great roster. 843 00:52:26,180 --> 00:52:28,860 In my opinion, you are underperforming. 844 00:52:28,860 --> 00:52:31,900 A really good setter changes the game for you. 845 00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:35,900 Are there any Texas Longhorns setters out there who want to join the team? 846 00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:36,900 Torres. 847 00:52:36,900 --> 00:52:37,900 They've got one. 848 00:52:37,900 --> 00:52:38,900 Maybe another one. 849 00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:39,900 All right. 850 00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:45,140 And, you know, with Atlanta, we chose to do nothing. 851 00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:50,460 With Madison, I'm going to limit you to one choice, but what are you doing if you're the 852 00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:52,340 Madison GM at this point? 853 00:52:52,340 --> 00:52:56,580 Right off the top of my head, I'm like switch your middle or your right side, but I'm going 854 00:52:56,580 --> 00:52:59,020 to do middle. 855 00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:01,020 I'm leaning to opposite, personally. 856 00:53:01,020 --> 00:53:02,020 Thomas I. 857 00:53:02,020 --> 00:53:04,540 Lara was doing okay. 858 00:53:04,540 --> 00:53:06,940 Annie Schumacher is the disappointment for me. 859 00:53:06,940 --> 00:53:12,020 Like you have that experience, like I expect more. 860 00:53:12,020 --> 00:53:15,060 But the middles. 861 00:53:15,060 --> 00:53:18,900 Either just do something. 862 00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:20,100 Yeah, fair enough. 863 00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:25,380 But I think I think stacked up against the other teams opposite is where is where they 864 00:53:25,380 --> 00:53:27,980 fall the most short, in my opinion. 865 00:53:27,980 --> 00:53:28,980 All right. 866 00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:31,140 Well, that was a quick game today. 867 00:53:31,140 --> 00:53:32,540 Just a little snippy snappy. 868 00:53:32,540 --> 00:53:33,540 Yeah. 869 00:53:33,540 --> 00:53:37,980 And I think it's good in terms of looking at the teams, you know, they're a decent way 870 00:53:37,980 --> 00:53:38,980 through the season. 871 00:53:38,980 --> 00:53:40,300 We've seen a whole bunch of matches. 872 00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:42,600 They're coming into their midseason tournament. 873 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,900 I think at this point you have a good feel for where the teams are, what they've been 874 00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:49,220 trying to do, what they've been able to accomplish. 875 00:53:49,220 --> 00:53:52,740 And I don't know if there's any movement during the season. 876 00:53:52,740 --> 00:53:56,340 I don't know if they'll trade any players because it's not a team thing. 877 00:53:56,340 --> 00:53:57,620 It's a league thing. 878 00:53:57,620 --> 00:53:59,480 But that's what I would be looking at. 879 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,380 Those are the areas of improvement I think are needed across the board. 880 00:54:03,380 --> 00:54:06,500 I've been loving the feedback I've been getting for some of the different games that we've 881 00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:07,500 been playing. 882 00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:12,140 I know the one last week in terms of level of concern was a seem to be a big hit. 883 00:54:12,140 --> 00:54:17,940 So if you like the Magic GM, let us know if you have other ideas for what we should do 884 00:54:17,940 --> 00:54:22,540 when we attack PDF in kind of this manner in terms of roster construction. 885 00:54:22,540 --> 00:54:23,540 Let us know. 886 00:54:23,540 --> 00:54:25,700 I'm always open for for new ideas. 887 00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:29,340 It is time for listener questions. 888 00:54:29,340 --> 00:54:32,700 Our first question is multifaceted. 889 00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:37,060 So I'm going to read the whole thing and then add them. 890 00:54:37,060 --> 00:54:40,120 I put them to work again to do some research. 891 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,800 So the question was, and we got this question from a ton of people. 892 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,580 So thank you very much. 893 00:54:46,580 --> 00:54:51,480 Can you tell us how the recent NCAA grads are doing with their overseas pro teams? 894 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,900 And then I got an email with some more specifics. 895 00:54:55,900 --> 00:55:00,020 What calibers of player went to Europe versus love and PDF? 896 00:55:00,020 --> 00:55:05,700 What might going to Europe mean to their careers versus those who stayed in the States? 897 00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:13,300 And how is the caliber of the European teams they went to compared to love and the PDF? 898 00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:15,700 Lots of information to dive into there. 899 00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:17,780 So let's start with this. 900 00:55:17,780 --> 00:55:25,860 I took a list and shout out to the avid volley Instagram feed. 901 00:55:25,860 --> 00:55:28,620 I pulled some of the information and some of the contracts from there. 902 00:55:28,620 --> 00:55:29,900 So they do an amazing job. 903 00:55:29,900 --> 00:55:34,220 If you're looking for Instagram updates, I would follow them. 904 00:55:34,220 --> 00:55:35,220 Thanks guys. 905 00:55:35,220 --> 00:55:36,500 Really appreciate it. 906 00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:41,260 But I went and looked at a bunch of the different players who we kind of recognized from this 907 00:55:41,260 --> 00:55:43,540 year's NCAA season. 908 00:55:43,540 --> 00:55:47,540 And I'll break down what teams they went to, what place those teams are in. 909 00:55:47,540 --> 00:55:52,460 And then maybe you can speak to the caliber of the league of those ones. 910 00:55:52,460 --> 00:55:55,660 So first, let's stay close to home. 911 00:55:55,660 --> 00:55:57,700 We'll look at the Puerto Rican league. 912 00:55:57,700 --> 00:55:59,660 So we had three players go there. 913 00:55:59,660 --> 00:56:05,260 Jalen Hodge from Arizona and she joined Valencianas. 914 00:56:05,260 --> 00:56:08,500 They are in last place in Puerto Rico. 915 00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:12,520 Now let me tell you, the Puerto Rican league website is not the easiest to navigate. 916 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,520 So I was... 917 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:14,860 And Adam doesn't speak Spanish. 918 00:56:14,860 --> 00:56:16,380 Do they have a translate feature? 919 00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:18,020 No, they don't. 920 00:56:18,020 --> 00:56:19,580 So the team is in last place. 921 00:56:19,580 --> 00:56:24,940 However, she is playing and I looked at some of the stats from the last three matches and 922 00:56:24,940 --> 00:56:28,700 she's playing and she looks like she's one of their leading point scorers. 923 00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:31,140 So she is on her way. 924 00:56:31,140 --> 00:56:35,620 She is making a difference and we'll see where that team ends up. 925 00:56:35,620 --> 00:56:40,100 Also playing in Puerto Rico is Emma Grome from Kentucky. 926 00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:45,180 I'm going to apologize ahead of time because I'm going to butcher all of these team names, 927 00:56:45,180 --> 00:56:48,100 but she's playing for... 928 00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:50,020 Cangas de Naranjito. 929 00:56:50,020 --> 00:56:51,020 Thank you. 930 00:56:51,020 --> 00:56:53,460 Sarah's going to do the pronunciations because she speaks four languages and I don't only 931 00:56:53,460 --> 00:56:54,460 speak one. 932 00:56:54,460 --> 00:56:55,460 Spanish isn't one of them though. 933 00:56:55,460 --> 00:56:58,180 Yeah, but it's better than my Spanish. 934 00:56:58,180 --> 00:57:04,900 So she is also, again, like I said, in Puerto Rico, that team is three of six. 935 00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:07,520 She looks like she's setting all of those matches. 936 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,740 She's playing right when she got there. 937 00:57:09,740 --> 00:57:11,900 So again, also making a difference. 938 00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:17,620 And finally, Savannah Coleheed from Arizona State playing for... 939 00:57:17,620 --> 00:57:18,620 Manz de Guayanaba. 940 00:57:18,620 --> 00:57:19,980 There you go. 941 00:57:19,980 --> 00:57:23,300 They are five of six in league standings. 942 00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:28,700 But again, she is also playing every match and one of the top point getters. 943 00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:33,500 So all three of those players, while they're not playing for the best teams in Puerto Rico, 944 00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:37,780 are starting every match and contributing in a meaningful way. 945 00:57:37,780 --> 00:57:43,180 For reference, Puerto Rico, not a great league if you're looking on the world scale. 946 00:57:43,180 --> 00:57:45,540 I mean, the level's not great. 947 00:57:45,540 --> 00:57:53,580 I would say that it is historically, it's been very typical for American college players 948 00:57:53,580 --> 00:57:58,420 who graduate to spend the winter and spring there. 949 00:57:58,420 --> 00:58:04,180 But it is a very comfortable place to get a start. 950 00:58:04,180 --> 00:58:06,060 And there's only six teams. 951 00:58:06,060 --> 00:58:12,620 The level is definitely, I would say, is probably closer to PBF than Love. 952 00:58:12,620 --> 00:58:19,580 And am I expecting these careers to skyrocket after playing in Puerto Rico? 953 00:58:19,580 --> 00:58:20,780 Not usually. 954 00:58:20,780 --> 00:58:23,420 Let's move on to Italy. 955 00:58:23,420 --> 00:58:28,740 So I found two players who went to Italian A1 leagues and then another player who was 956 00:58:28,740 --> 00:58:29,740 in A2. 957 00:58:29,740 --> 00:58:34,340 And these are people that we have talked about extensively on the podcast. 958 00:58:34,340 --> 00:58:39,840 There are more, but we, Adam chose to narrow his focus to players that we've talked about. 959 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:45,540 So I had lots of questions about her specifically, but what is Anna Smirak doing from Wisconsin? 960 00:58:45,540 --> 00:58:48,060 Adam really struggles with her name, you guys. 961 00:58:48,060 --> 00:58:53,540 So she actually went to Vero Vali in Milano. 962 00:58:53,540 --> 00:58:57,780 They are in second place in the Italian league. 963 00:58:57,780 --> 00:59:01,140 I believe she's been there for six matches. 964 00:59:01,140 --> 00:59:04,120 She's gotten into two of those matches. 965 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:11,340 She scored seven points, but it's a front court for three rotation type situation that 966 00:59:11,340 --> 00:59:12,340 she finds herself in. 967 00:59:12,340 --> 00:59:15,060 So she's not seeing a ton of playing time. 968 00:59:15,060 --> 00:59:20,180 And I would have been knocked out on the floor if she did see extensive playing time because 969 00:59:20,180 --> 00:59:25,500 she's playing behind one of the best players in the world in Paola Egonu. 970 00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:30,700 Vero Vali is loaded with Italian national team players, outstanding. 971 00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:32,320 They keep advancing in Champions League. 972 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,020 So very good. 973 00:59:34,020 --> 00:59:36,700 I think it's a really good situation for her. 974 00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:44,820 She has a chance to see what players at the highest level look like, train like, what's 975 00:59:44,820 --> 00:59:46,740 their ball control like. 976 00:59:46,740 --> 00:59:53,620 All of those things will benefit her if she wants to make a career internationally. 977 00:59:53,620 --> 00:59:56,780 This will be a good barometer for her. 978 00:59:56,780 --> 01:00:01,580 This is by far the best team that anybody this year went to. 979 01:00:01,580 --> 01:00:08,740 To be quite honest, I feel like given Anna Smreks skill set, that will be her role for 980 01:00:08,740 --> 01:00:10,900 any team she plays for. 981 01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:13,780 Anna Smreks not necessarily fast enough to be a middle. 982 01:00:13,780 --> 01:00:16,860 She's not dynamic enough to be a right side. 983 01:00:16,860 --> 01:00:22,460 And the reason I say that is because in international rules, the right sides need to play all the 984 01:00:22,460 --> 01:00:23,460 way around. 985 01:00:23,460 --> 01:00:25,380 The girl struggles to pass a free ball. 986 01:00:25,380 --> 01:00:31,380 So you're not going to see her playing defense against top players. 987 01:00:31,380 --> 01:00:37,100 You won't see her hitting out of system balls or hitting out of the back row or serving. 988 01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:46,220 Her skill set is so particular and so limited that no matter what team she goes to, I feel 989 01:00:46,220 --> 01:00:51,140 like her role will always be come in with the double sub, go across the front row one 990 01:00:51,140 --> 01:00:52,140 time to block. 991 01:00:52,140 --> 01:00:56,740 Well, and that's, again, a little bit of a byproduct of the American system with the 992 01:00:56,740 --> 01:00:57,980 subs and the DSs. 993 01:00:57,980 --> 01:01:00,100 So she hasn't had a chance to do those things. 994 01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:03,940 And again, this is here's what the expectation is. 995 01:01:03,940 --> 01:01:05,900 You're playing behind one of the best in the world. 996 01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:08,140 This is what she does in all facets of the game. 997 01:01:08,140 --> 01:01:09,140 Can you get there? 998 01:01:09,140 --> 01:01:13,300 If she doesn't get better playing with this team, then she's just not going to cut it 999 01:01:13,300 --> 01:01:18,780 because like that environment is the environment where you sink or swim. 1000 01:01:18,780 --> 01:01:23,620 And yeah, it's the best place for her to be if she wants to keep playing. 1001 01:01:23,620 --> 01:01:31,140 We also have Argentina from Arizona State playing at Savino del Bene Scandici and very 1002 01:01:31,140 --> 01:01:32,140 good team. 1003 01:01:32,140 --> 01:01:35,300 They are third in the Italian League. 1004 01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:36,300 Very good. 1005 01:01:36,300 --> 01:01:39,060 I have not seen her play at all at this point. 1006 01:01:39,060 --> 01:01:46,740 I mean, the top Italian teams that bring players in at the transfer window, they're not looking 1007 01:01:46,740 --> 01:01:49,300 to bring people in to necessarily play. 1008 01:01:49,300 --> 01:01:57,900 They're looking to bring people in to be on their B side because the good teams are loaded. 1009 01:01:57,900 --> 01:02:03,780 So I was actually really shocked that she signed with this team, but she is for sure 1010 01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:05,500 like the B side setter. 1011 01:02:05,500 --> 01:02:10,900 Well, and again, if you have big aspirations in the sport and you want to see like how 1012 01:02:10,900 --> 01:02:16,620 good can I be, you go to these teams and you're on the bench. 1013 01:02:16,620 --> 01:02:18,820 You're in amazing training environments every day. 1014 01:02:18,820 --> 01:02:21,440 This is how you figure out how good can I be. 1015 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,720 So good for her. 1016 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:29,040 And then finally, Michael Vernon from ZOO is in A2 Italy. 1017 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,300 They're in third place out of 10 of the teams in that league. 1018 01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:34,320 She is getting playing time. 1019 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:35,740 She's played about four matches. 1020 01:02:35,740 --> 01:02:37,100 She's had about 60 swings. 1021 01:02:37,100 --> 01:02:39,720 Her numbers are decent. 1022 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,820 So she is making an impact in A2 Italy. 1023 01:02:43,820 --> 01:02:48,260 Honestly, I think A2 is a good place for Michael Vernon. 1024 01:02:48,260 --> 01:02:50,620 I think that's a good level for her. 1025 01:02:50,620 --> 01:02:57,820 I would say that A2 might be similar to love, slightly better. 1026 01:02:57,820 --> 01:03:02,900 So I think that that is a really good spot for Michael Vernon to land. 1027 01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:06,380 And I think that it can help her develop her game for sure. 1028 01:03:06,380 --> 01:03:12,940 OK, let's move on to a couple athletes who are having great seasons overseas. 1029 01:03:12,940 --> 01:03:17,420 So first we have Reagan Rutherford from Texas, obviously. 1030 01:03:17,420 --> 01:03:21,820 She is playing in France for? 1031 01:03:21,820 --> 01:03:23,460 Moll House, Alsace. 1032 01:03:23,460 --> 01:03:28,640 So they are currently five out of 15 teams in that league. 1033 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,300 She is playing. 1034 01:03:30,300 --> 01:03:31,660 She is doing really well. 1035 01:03:31,660 --> 01:03:34,480 She was player of the match this week. 1036 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,480 It looks like she has landed on her feet. 1037 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:41,140 She is contributing in the league to her team and playing really well. 1038 01:03:41,140 --> 01:03:42,900 So great for her. 1039 01:03:42,900 --> 01:03:50,020 Yeah, I would say the French league is probably in between the PVF and love levels. 1040 01:03:50,020 --> 01:03:56,580 It's not the strongest league, but I think having a good season in France could be a 1041 01:03:56,580 --> 01:04:05,940 good springboard for her to go to maybe A2 Italy or maybe to Poland, a slightly better 1042 01:04:05,940 --> 01:04:06,940 league. 1043 01:04:06,940 --> 01:04:09,980 Do I think Rutherford is an A1 caliber player? 1044 01:04:09,980 --> 01:04:10,980 No. 1045 01:04:10,980 --> 01:04:15,780 But I think that this was a good move for her career because even though the level isn't 1046 01:04:15,780 --> 01:04:21,740 crazy high, I think getting that exposure in Europe can help her get a better contract 1047 01:04:21,740 --> 01:04:22,740 later. 1048 01:04:22,740 --> 01:04:26,580 There's lots of players who do that in the French league because France is a volleyball 1049 01:04:26,580 --> 01:04:27,580 country. 1050 01:04:27,580 --> 01:04:28,580 They understand the game. 1051 01:04:28,580 --> 01:04:29,580 You get good training. 1052 01:04:29,580 --> 01:04:33,900 They just don't have the money that some of the other leagues have, but it's a very professional 1053 01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:34,900 environment. 1054 01:04:34,900 --> 01:04:36,100 So good for her. 1055 01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:41,580 Julia Orzel from Wisconsin obviously went to Poland. 1056 01:04:41,580 --> 01:04:43,620 No shock there being Polish. 1057 01:04:43,620 --> 01:04:45,100 I'm for Chemek Policja. 1058 01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:47,460 Yeah, so they are right in the middle of the league. 1059 01:04:47,460 --> 01:04:51,780 There are six out of the 12 teams that compete there. 1060 01:04:51,780 --> 01:04:58,460 She is also playing right away, starting for them, also player of the match this week. 1061 01:04:58,460 --> 01:04:59,960 Her stats look good. 1062 01:04:59,960 --> 01:05:03,300 She is continuing to perform and play at a high level. 1063 01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:07,260 She will make a difference for them for sure. 1064 01:05:07,260 --> 01:05:10,900 And I feel like she could be a Poland league lifer. 1065 01:05:10,900 --> 01:05:14,740 In the European leagues, there are foreigner limits. 1066 01:05:14,740 --> 01:05:21,740 And so being a Polish national, she will be free to play there without restrictions forever. 1067 01:05:21,740 --> 01:05:24,700 I think that's great. 1068 01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:29,780 The Polish league is not the top, but it's pretty good. 1069 01:05:29,780 --> 01:05:33,020 And I think this is great for her. 1070 01:05:33,020 --> 01:05:37,620 I think she's exceeding my expectations for sure. 1071 01:05:37,620 --> 01:05:42,780 I've got two more on the list that we will highlight who had notable NCAA careers. 1072 01:05:42,780 --> 01:05:49,520 Melanie Schaffmaster from Minnesota is playing at AON Amazons in Greece. 1073 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:54,420 That team is 12th out of 12 in the Greek league. 1074 01:05:54,420 --> 01:06:00,820 They're not doing so hot, but she is playing and starting for that team, not surprisingly. 1075 01:06:00,820 --> 01:06:05,060 I haven't seen them play, so I'm not sure what the caliber of players around her are, 1076 01:06:05,060 --> 01:06:06,820 but the team's not doing very well. 1077 01:06:06,820 --> 01:06:09,300 The Greek league is not great. 1078 01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:12,380 I would say it's definitely lower than France. 1079 01:06:12,380 --> 01:06:17,780 I mean, the listeners know my feelings on Schaffmaster. 1080 01:06:17,780 --> 01:06:19,620 I feel like that's where she fits. 1081 01:06:19,620 --> 01:06:27,860 And finally, Sofia Maldonado-Diaz from Louisville took a contract in Colombia. 1082 01:06:27,860 --> 01:06:30,340 I did a little research on this. 1083 01:06:30,340 --> 01:06:35,740 There wasn't much to find, but I think they just launched their league. 1084 01:06:35,740 --> 01:06:39,540 I saw a notification on the FIBB website about that. 1085 01:06:39,540 --> 01:06:41,460 I couldn't find a website. 1086 01:06:41,460 --> 01:06:45,480 I couldn't find many stats or any stats. 1087 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:51,140 So I'm not sure what's going on there, but that's where she's playing. 1088 01:06:51,140 --> 01:06:55,300 And unfortunately, if anybody else has found where that league is or knows anything about 1089 01:06:55,300 --> 01:06:56,380 it, please let us know. 1090 01:06:56,380 --> 01:07:01,500 So I think the top NCAA players that graduated went to love. 1091 01:07:01,500 --> 01:07:07,660 I would say that the players who went to Europe are probably the middle tier, and then the 1092 01:07:07,660 --> 01:07:10,060 PVF players are probably lower. 1093 01:07:10,060 --> 01:07:12,300 Would you agree with that? 1094 01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:16,440 Yeah, and I think part of it is probably also where you want to go. 1095 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:17,980 Are you comfortable going overseas? 1096 01:07:17,980 --> 01:07:21,700 So there will be some overlap in that. 1097 01:07:21,700 --> 01:07:27,660 And contract wise, some of the contracts for the lower positions in the European league 1098 01:07:27,660 --> 01:07:30,940 won't be making as much money as they would be either at PVF or love. 1099 01:07:30,940 --> 01:07:34,820 So a few factors there, but I think in general, that's accurate. 1100 01:07:34,820 --> 01:07:36,060 There's definitely some give and take. 1101 01:07:36,060 --> 01:07:41,940 I mean, I think going to Europe is more, especially as a young athlete, if you are coming halfway 1102 01:07:41,940 --> 01:07:46,940 through the season, they might not be making as much as they would have in PVF this season. 1103 01:07:46,940 --> 01:07:52,060 But I think the potential if they perform well is definitely higher. 1104 01:07:52,060 --> 01:07:54,380 So I am a fan of going to Europe. 1105 01:07:54,380 --> 01:07:55,860 I'm a huge advocate for it. 1106 01:07:55,860 --> 01:07:59,540 It's really cool to see some of these young athletes getting playing time and getting 1107 01:07:59,540 --> 01:08:01,780 that experience and having success. 1108 01:08:01,780 --> 01:08:05,500 So hopefully that answers everybody's question. 1109 01:08:05,500 --> 01:08:12,340 Second question, somebody sent in a hypothetical and I would love your take. 1110 01:08:12,340 --> 01:08:16,060 Hypothetical USA national team 2028 scenario. 1111 01:08:16,060 --> 01:08:20,700 Oh, Kennedy Martin and Olivia Babcock are the right sides. 1112 01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:26,460 Maddie Skinner moves to the left side with Merzik and Franklin and Plummer. 1113 01:08:26,460 --> 01:08:27,900 How do you think that will go? 1114 01:08:27,900 --> 01:08:32,540 Oh, there are so many question marks there. 1115 01:08:32,540 --> 01:08:35,380 I mean, it's, I definitely see passing. 1116 01:08:35,380 --> 01:08:37,640 Well, yes, my question. 1117 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:43,340 So I definitely see the thought process behind a team like this. 1118 01:08:43,340 --> 01:08:48,180 I'm going to go from a philosophy standpoint first and then I can talk about some of those 1119 01:08:48,180 --> 01:08:49,180 players. 1120 01:08:49,180 --> 01:08:56,100 So typically the US focuses on ball control and running a very quick off. 1121 01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:57,380 We went over this last week. 1122 01:08:57,380 --> 01:08:59,860 If you missed that question, go check it out. 1123 01:08:59,860 --> 01:09:06,460 I don't think that any of those left sides and in fairness, I haven't seen Plummer pass 1124 01:09:06,460 --> 01:09:08,200 in Turkey so far. 1125 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:12,180 So she's been having a good I know she's having a good season, but what is that ball control 1126 01:09:12,180 --> 01:09:13,180 like? 1127 01:09:13,180 --> 01:09:19,580 So if you're going with two of Maddie Skinner, Merzik, Franklin and Plummer, the potential 1128 01:09:19,580 --> 01:09:26,060 for your passing to go sideways in their current state as athletes, that would be my biggest 1129 01:09:26,060 --> 01:09:27,060 concern. 1130 01:09:27,060 --> 01:09:28,820 Well, my question is like, where's Avery Skinner? 1131 01:09:28,820 --> 01:09:29,820 Right. 1132 01:09:29,820 --> 01:09:34,860 So you're not going to you're not going to see Skinner, Merzik and Franklin on the same 1133 01:09:34,860 --> 01:09:38,020 roster for the Olympics in the same position. 1134 01:09:38,020 --> 01:09:39,020 Fair enough. 1135 01:09:39,020 --> 01:09:45,620 I think it's more likely that you're going to see one of Maddie Skinner, Merzik, Franklin 1136 01:09:45,620 --> 01:09:46,620 and Plummer. 1137 01:09:46,620 --> 01:09:52,140 And I would imagine that that conversation has been had already internally at USAV. 1138 01:09:52,140 --> 01:09:57,900 And you know, as you're creating your depth chart, we're still three years out from the 1139 01:09:57,900 --> 01:09:58,940 Olympics. 1140 01:09:58,940 --> 01:10:01,940 Don't forget, lots can happen in those regards. 1141 01:10:01,940 --> 01:10:08,980 I would give Plummer the edge there just because I think playing overseas gives you that experience. 1142 01:10:08,980 --> 01:10:16,220 She's big, she's dynamic, she is solid all the way around, and she's had more experience. 1143 01:10:16,220 --> 01:10:20,140 Does that mean injury, you know, the other three coming on? 1144 01:10:20,140 --> 01:10:21,140 Anything could happen. 1145 01:10:21,140 --> 01:10:22,700 But I would give Plummer the edge there. 1146 01:10:22,700 --> 01:10:27,860 Kennedy Martin and Olivia Babcock on the right side is really interesting. 1147 01:10:27,860 --> 01:10:31,520 They are the most traditional right sides we've seen for a while. 1148 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:37,560 And this is a position that the US has, in my opinion, been the furthest behind the other 1149 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,560 top international teams. 1150 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,580 So I think this is a real possibility. 1151 01:10:43,580 --> 01:10:49,280 I think Babcock has the edge in my mind versus Kennedy Martin at this point. 1152 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:53,980 I read some comments, you have to remember Olivia's graduating in 2027. 1153 01:10:53,980 --> 01:11:00,220 So that gives you, you know, a season overseas, which could be enough if they get her into 1154 01:11:00,220 --> 01:11:03,680 the USA program this summer, next summer. 1155 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,380 She doesn't necessarily have to play, but she has to be in that environment. 1156 01:11:06,380 --> 01:11:07,780 She has to understand what that is. 1157 01:11:07,780 --> 01:11:11,140 So we're beyond the travel roster for V&O for sure. 1158 01:11:11,140 --> 01:11:14,760 So I would give Olivia the edge at this point. 1159 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:21,100 But I think that the right side is definitely the position that has the most uncertainty 1160 01:11:21,100 --> 01:11:22,940 around it leading into LA. 1161 01:11:22,940 --> 01:11:29,060 Our third question is which US League do you think will be most affected by the third MLV 1162 01:11:29,060 --> 01:11:30,060 League? 1163 01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:34,900 Well, I think it's definitely going to be PVF, because the MLV is going to operate in 1164 01:11:34,900 --> 01:11:36,860 a similar model. 1165 01:11:36,860 --> 01:11:40,980 So they're going to be competing for players, they're going to be competing for fans, they'll 1166 01:11:40,980 --> 01:11:43,060 be in similar cities. 1167 01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:45,660 The setup will be similar. 1168 01:11:45,660 --> 01:11:50,720 For better or for worse, Love has their own model that is not really mergeable with any 1169 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:51,720 other league. 1170 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,100 It operates two differently. 1171 01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:54,520 They don't have franchise owners. 1172 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,180 It's all owned by the same company. 1173 01:11:56,180 --> 01:12:00,500 So Love is either going to succeed or fail on its own. 1174 01:12:00,500 --> 01:12:06,060 So yeah, I definitely think PVF and the other league will be in direct competition. 1175 01:12:06,060 --> 01:12:08,460 Now you might have some fan fatigue. 1176 01:12:08,460 --> 01:12:14,260 If you have three teams in one city or the big markets, people will have to choose and 1177 01:12:14,260 --> 01:12:17,660 then it will come down to production value and entertainment. 1178 01:12:17,660 --> 01:12:21,780 But from a pure league standpoint, I think that's the direct competition. 1179 01:12:21,780 --> 01:12:22,980 I agree. 1180 01:12:22,980 --> 01:12:29,240 And our final question of the week is, why are some people not moving after the serve 1181 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,340 and just standing in their position? 1182 01:12:31,340 --> 01:12:34,260 Have they changed the rotation rules? 1183 01:12:34,260 --> 01:12:35,820 They have actually. 1184 01:12:35,820 --> 01:12:43,260 So you no longer have to, if your team is serving, start or stand in the rotation where 1185 01:12:43,260 --> 01:12:46,180 you are, you can go directly to your position. 1186 01:12:46,180 --> 01:12:48,580 I mean, at this point, everybody knows what the rotations are. 1187 01:12:48,580 --> 01:12:49,580 The players are old enough. 1188 01:12:49,580 --> 01:12:51,900 That has been adopted internationally now. 1189 01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:52,900 Yeah. 1190 01:12:52,900 --> 01:12:54,140 So that's across the board. 1191 01:12:54,140 --> 01:12:55,180 That's the rule now. 1192 01:12:55,180 --> 01:12:57,420 You can just go to your spot. 1193 01:12:57,420 --> 01:13:00,580 You don't have to worry about standing and waiting and moving. 1194 01:13:00,580 --> 01:13:02,620 I think it's a natural progression. 1195 01:13:02,620 --> 01:13:03,620 Everybody knows what's going on. 1196 01:13:03,620 --> 01:13:08,300 So that is a rule change if you were unsure as to why that happened. 1197 01:13:08,300 --> 01:13:11,020 Thank you so much to everybody who submitted questions. 1198 01:13:11,020 --> 01:13:15,700 As I said before, I record all of your questions. 1199 01:13:15,700 --> 01:13:17,920 We will get to them eventually. 1200 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:23,380 We pick and choose just a few each week, but thank you so much for your participation and 1201 01:13:23,380 --> 01:13:26,240 submitting your questions for us to read. 1202 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:31,120 So moving forward, let's look at the week ahead. 1203 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:35,940 This weekend, Love is doing their mid-season tournament in Kansas City. 1204 01:13:35,940 --> 01:13:39,500 This is coinciding with a massive youth tournament. 1205 01:13:39,500 --> 01:13:41,220 Yes, Triple Crown. 1206 01:13:41,220 --> 01:13:45,940 So those matches will be shown on ESPN Plus and ESPNU. 1207 01:13:45,940 --> 01:13:46,940 I believe you can see. 1208 01:13:46,940 --> 01:13:47,940 Only on Sunday. 1209 01:13:47,940 --> 01:13:53,060 There's one match on ESPNU, one on ESPN2, but across the board, they're all on ESPN 1210 01:13:53,060 --> 01:13:54,060 Plus. 1211 01:13:54,060 --> 01:13:55,060 Got it. 1212 01:13:55,060 --> 01:13:56,180 So tune into those. 1213 01:13:56,180 --> 01:13:57,180 They should be good. 1214 01:13:57,180 --> 01:14:00,300 It should be a good atmosphere because there'll be lots of kids and coaches watching. 1215 01:14:00,300 --> 01:14:02,260 It'll be a fun weekend, I think. 1216 01:14:02,260 --> 01:14:07,380 Not sure if this has any implications for the actual league, but is it more of a showcase 1217 01:14:07,380 --> 01:14:11,140 because there's going to be a ton of youth programs there. 1218 01:14:11,140 --> 01:14:15,420 That's kind of the feeling I'm getting, but if you know something I don't, let me know. 1219 01:14:15,420 --> 01:14:20,380 And the top two teams in the standings right now get buys in this showcase. 1220 01:14:20,380 --> 01:14:23,060 So they will play one last match and go right to the semifinals. 1221 01:14:23,060 --> 01:14:28,560 So there's a little benefit to being at the top of the league. 1222 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:34,800 In NCAA men's action, Wednesday and Friday, USC plays UC Irvine. 1223 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,580 Those will be great matches. 1224 01:14:36,580 --> 01:14:37,580 I would tune in. 1225 01:14:37,580 --> 01:14:41,100 They're at 9 and 10 Eastern respectively. 1226 01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:47,180 And then on Thursday and Friday, Ball State plays Lewis, which may or may not be schools 1227 01:14:47,180 --> 01:14:50,380 you're familiar with if you only follow the women's game. 1228 01:14:50,380 --> 01:14:54,260 So they are top 10 teams, both of them, I believe. 1229 01:14:54,260 --> 01:14:58,500 Like they're like an 8-12 situation. 1230 01:14:58,500 --> 01:15:01,940 So those games will be at 7 p.m. Eastern. 1231 01:15:01,940 --> 01:15:04,860 Again if you're looking for that college fix, tune into those. 1232 01:15:04,860 --> 01:15:06,940 Adam is really pushing the men's game you guys. 1233 01:15:06,940 --> 01:15:08,180 So just like help us out. 1234 01:15:08,180 --> 01:15:09,180 I'm in. 1235 01:15:09,180 --> 01:15:10,400 Just go watch a couple, okay? 1236 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:16,340 And then PVF, Saturday at 7 p.m. Eastern, Grand Rapids Rise plays the Orlando Valkyries. 1237 01:15:16,340 --> 01:15:21,300 We'll see if Orlando can keep their sweep streak alive in three. 1238 01:15:21,300 --> 01:15:27,300 And then on Sunday, the Omaha Supernovas play the San Diego Mojo at 4 p.m. Eastern. 1239 01:15:27,300 --> 01:15:31,220 And those can be found on the PVF YouTube channel. 1240 01:15:31,220 --> 01:15:33,860 That concludes this week's episode of Volley Talk. 1241 01:15:33,860 --> 01:15:37,620 There's always something shaking in the volleyball world and we hope you enjoyed this little 1242 01:15:37,620 --> 01:15:38,620 fix. 1243 01:15:38,620 --> 01:15:42,660 Be sure to follow the show so you don't miss any updates and we would be so grateful if 1244 01:15:42,660 --> 01:15:45,100 you'd leave us a five-star review. 1245 01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:49,740 You can also find us on Instagram at VolleyTalk underscore podcast. 1246 01:15:49,740 --> 01:15:53,400 If you have a topic that you want us to discuss, be sure to let us know by reaching out to 1247 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:57,660 us on Instagram or at info at sarahpavin.com. 1248 01:15:57,660 --> 01:16:15,500 Thanks so much for joining us and we'll be back next week.