Navigating Staff Drama In Vet Med

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WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:11.240 (upbeat music)- Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the Veterinary Round Table, the podcast where we brought(laughs)- So, thank you. - It's so funny. 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:13.080 - I was thinking of big boobs, okay. 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:16.719 (laughs)- Okay, there's no context. 00:00:16.719 --> 00:00:18.679 If there was, okay. 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:21.079 - Oh my gosh, this is PG-13, officially. 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:26.640 (laughs) I guess there is no context. 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:29.120 (laughs)- Okay, sorry, let's start over. 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:31.199 (laughs) No more keeping that. 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:36.679 (laughs)- Do you have two minutes to explain? 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:43.119 - Oh yeah. (laughs)- Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the Veterinary Round Table, the podcast. 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:47.520 (laughs)- Talk while you do the subject. 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:49.439 - Well we have some fun along the way. 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:58.719 If you enjoyed today's episode, be sure to leave us a review on your podcast provider of choice and if you have any feedback to offer to improve the Veterinary Round Table, let us know. 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:00.479 - Contacts to big boobs. 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:12.159 (laughs) We were all straighting out our shirts, our scrub tops before he said action and joking that our huge boobs,(laughs)- Can't in the way the bar is scrubbed. 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.519 - But this funny 'cause none of us have a big, little ironic. 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:16.359 - Oh my gosh. 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:17.200 - Okay. 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:19.319 - I think we're all just very sloppy, too. 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:23.239 (laughs)- None of us have a big, he would be in our belly, so. 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.480 - Listen, all those people out there, thank you. 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:28.280 - Yeah, apparently we got lots of them. 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:29.719 - We got more reviews. 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:30.920 - Yeah, thanks. 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:33.000 - I mean, like two or three a week. 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:33.840 - Yeah? 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:35.000 - That's a very fast way. - Yeah, it's over a week. 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:37.359 - I got there 53 last week. 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:38.459 - He said we got a few more. 00:01:38.459 --> 00:01:39.299 - Okay. 00:01:39.299 --> 00:01:40.299 - Okay. 00:01:40.299 --> 00:01:42.359 - So maybe he didn't update that. 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:43.200 - Yeah. 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:44.459 Maybe we got more on Spotify. 00:01:44.459 --> 00:01:45.299 - Yeah. 00:01:45.299 --> 00:01:46.280 - Yeah, an Apple Podcast. 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:49.239 - We're less over halfway there. 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:52.079 - To your stunt. 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:52.920 - Yeah. 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:53.760 - My stunt. 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:54.920 - Less over half. 00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:55.920 - I made a noise. 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:57.879 - I did mean to say less. 00:01:57.879 --> 00:01:59.519 - It was over halfway there. 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:01.200 - Over halfway, okay, I like it. 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:02.920 - I can't speak. 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:09.000 - I think this has been in the works for like four months and we've probably gotten 10 reviews. 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:10.400 - No, it's actually working. 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:11.719 We're getting more reviews. 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:12.560 - Yeah. 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:13.680 - We just, yeah. 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:14.520 - Yeah. 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:15.360 - Queue the review. 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:16.360 - Queue the review. 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:17.199 - Hit it. 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:18.039 - 47 more. 00:02:18.039 --> 00:02:18.879 - Hit it. 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:19.719 - Hit it. 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:21.560 - One new review is next on our agenda. 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.680 It says, ha ha ha ha ha. 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:27.439 (laughing)- It's actually--- I love it. 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:29.240 - Ha ha ha. 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:32.759 - I feel like I've listened to enough episodes now to leave a review. 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:33.719 Y'all are awesome. 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:36.680 I have never reviewed a podcast yet, so feel honored. 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:38.240 - Ooh, very honored. 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:39.080 - I am very honored. 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:40.159 Okay, that was really cool. 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:44.360 Technician here at a small and large animal clinic in very rural Missouri. 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:46.759 I'm glad you guys are even carrying the CPMA. 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:48.879 We have a lot of cost-concerned people in my area. 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:54.520 So most of our parvo pets are too far gone to where supportive care doesn't even touch them. 00:02:54.520 --> 00:03:01.599 It's so expensive that our owner won't even buy it because of the likelihood of it not being purchased on face. 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:02.439 - Oh. 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:05.319 - I'm about to switch clinics and go to, oh, veg. 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:09.680 So I'm excited for the change of pace and experience and being utilized more. 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:10.759 But y'all are awesome. 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:12.759 I love listening to your cases. 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:14.960 We've been getting a lot of unique cases too. 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:16.400 I blame the stars. 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:17.960 - Love the new scroll. 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:18.800 - Oh, thank you. 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:21.120 - Boo, boo, boo, boo. 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:21.960 - I love it. 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:22.800 - I love it. 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:24.439 - Oh my gosh, it's so cute. 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:25.759 You know what? 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:29.599 Just Monday, all the animals were acting weird. 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:30.759 - It's the solar eclipse coming. 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:36.879 - Perseval pets, when are patients, they all, I think, know it's happening and they're getting prepared for you. 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:37.879 - I think so. 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:38.879 They're just really arranging. 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:41.919 - Yeah, 'cause Mercury is not unretrograde as far as I know. 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:43.199 - It has to be the eclipse. 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:45.879 - Sure, there's some like scientific thing going on. 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:51.240 - Okay, so no one knows actually, this is really important because we, why are you laughing? 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:52.680 - I know, you got really excited. 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.680 - Because we are like in the path of the complete clips. 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:57.479 - You're probably not even listening here. 00:03:57.479 --> 00:03:58.560 - Or not in the path. 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.560 You guys, I'm not gonna be in town next week, so you guys have to take pictures. 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:02.400 - You're not here on Monday? 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.719 - No, of yourselves with the solar eclipse so we can show people. 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:06.560 - We'll get a group picture. 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:08.400 - It like literally--- On the podcast. 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:11.560 - The Hamilton County is in--- It's like ground zero, right? 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:12.759 - And you know what's gonna happen? 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:14.639 It's gonna rain because it's Indiana. 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:16.639 - You can only see from here? 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:19.079 - Well, it's like the best place. 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:19.920 - Yeah, like the best place. 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:23.480 - Yeah, that's why everything is shutting down and all these people are traveling. 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:24.319 - Yeah. 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:26.959 - Like, hospitals aren't doing elected procedures. 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:27.800 - Yes. 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:28.639 - These are closed. 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:30.040 Like, it's bananas. 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:30.879 - It's a big deal. 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:31.720 - It's crazy. 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:32.560 - It really is a huge deal. 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:36.120 - It's gonna look at Hamilton County all the way to our lifetime so that we're gonna see. 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:36.959 - Yeah. 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:37.800 - Yeah. 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:38.639 - Wasn't there one a few years ago? 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:39.480 - It wasn't total. 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:40.319 - But it wasn't total. 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:41.319 - See, I don't know anything. 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:42.160 - Yeah. 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:43.800 - Yeah, it's pretty crazy and safe. 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:44.720 - I'm excited. 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.000 - So you guys need to get video next week. 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:47.839 - Keep your eyes out. 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:49.319 - Don't animal up inside so they don't go behind. 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:51.120 - Don't let your dogs outside during this time. 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:53.399 If you have outdoor cats, bring them inside. 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:54.240 - Or lock them up. 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:55.319 - Or get them goggles. 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:56.800 - Hatch kids, hatch webs. 00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:59.759 (laughing)- Hatch kids, hatch webs. 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:00.600 Hatch cats. 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:02.720 - I will hide my cats. 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:05.079 - 'Cause that's a good point to think about. 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:06.199 - You pets will go blind. 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:07.040 - Anyway. 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:07.879 - I feel like I'm going blind. 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:09.040 - I think God naturally protects them. 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:10.439 They don't look up there. 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:12.240 - Yeah, I don't really find them. 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:15.680 - Do you ever see a dog or cat looking up at this one? 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:16.519 - Me. 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:17.680 - My dog is like, you do. 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:20.439 - I think things look really dark out my dog. 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:24.560 - I don't think I've ever seen an animal stare up at the sun. 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:26.759 - My cats look at the birds up in the sky. 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:29.600 - They're not like genuinely staring at the sun. 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:37.720 - No, my house doesn't look at the sun, but the other day I let them outside and I looked out on the patio and he was just like,(laughing)- He was standing there. 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:38.560 - I was enjoying the weather. 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:39.399 - There was no birds. 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:41.160 He was just standing roasting. 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:42.360 - But he's also really weird. 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:46.319 So yeah, maybe airplanes, do they hear them and then look up? 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:47.319 - And balloons and stuff. 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:50.079 - I don't deny that they look up in the sky. 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:52.360 I just don't think they're going to. 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:54.360 I think it's better to be staring at the other animals. 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:56.680 - I think they're naturally protected to not do that. 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:59.000 - Are all flights canceled? 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:00.399 Are there planes flying that day? 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:02.279 - Yeah, there are some, could you imagine? 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:03.279 - Plans are on an all flight. 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:04.360 - They're a lot of fly then? 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:05.199 - I'm sure they are. 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:06.040 - I think so. 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:11.439 I heard someone in the target line last week say they were gonna be in the air when it was happening. 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:12.279 - They can fly in the center. 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:14.759 - So the pilots had to put in a special goggles. 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:15.600 - Probably. 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:16.439 - Would you say, Devon? 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:18.000 - They can fly in like hurricanes. 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:19.240 - Yeah, the shorter planes start. 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:22.040 - They can fly in the dark, maybe they can just fly. 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:23.319 - I'm actually gonna go blind like that. 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:24.319 You could have your right nose. 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:25.319 - I was looking at up. 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:26.839 You could injure your retinas. 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:29.240 - So it could cause partial blindness. 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:31.680 - That's like, I told you we have the special goggles. 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:34.120 - That's to stare at the sun, which you can't normally do anyway. 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:34.959 - Do you want to test it? 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:39.639 - So it's like, it's about like not staring at the sun in general, like no one stares at the sun during like normal times. 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:45.560 And so then therefore, because you want to stare at the sun, you have to wear special goggles. 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:47.360 I don't think it has anything to do with the solar eclipse. 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:50.000 I think it has to do with staring at the sun. 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:53.600 - We got our goggles last weekend on Easter, my brother and I tested them. 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:57.720 So we put them on and stared at the sun and then took our things off and you know how bright it is. 00:06:57.720 --> 00:06:59.279 Because I tried to look at you can't. 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:00.120 - No. 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:07.240 - So maybe just your, I don't know, maybe everyone just assumes because you don't wear the goggles like every day when you're on the sun. 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:08.079 - Yeah. 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:08.920 - Yeah, fancy glasses. 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:09.920 - I'm sure people will stare. 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:12.279 - It just says that it's safe to fly during the eclipse. 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:13.120 - Okay, well there we go. 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:13.959 - I'm not getting any. 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:15.680 - If you were traveling, don't worry. 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:17.600 - Safe travels, yeah. 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:19.399 Just don't stare at the sun. 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:20.879 Per usual or do? 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:21.879 - It's just gonna be dark. 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:24.480 I mean, it's not like, people are gonna do what they want. 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:25.399 - I feel like one in your phone. 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.800 - There are people are having parties and stuff guys. 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:34.920 Like literally like, like hotel rooms, book, but like, what you might call it over there off of Conor Prairie. 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:35.759 - Yeah. 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:36.600 - Whole party. 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:37.439 - All of some things. 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:40.519 - Like all these places are having actual parties for the solar eclipse. 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:42.079 - So we close the clinic and get ready for the party? 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:43.040 - We're close for an hour. 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:43.879 - Yeah. 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:48.959 - If you think about it, if you think about it, the solar eclipse is not like three in the afternoon. 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:51.959 So it's gonna be like right above you, kind of. 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:56.439 And when you're flying a plane, like,- Oh yeah, you're not gonna be able to fly it any below the sun. 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:57.279 - Yeah, yeah. 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:58.120 - That makes sense. 00:07:58.120 --> 00:07:58.959 You're still on the plane. 00:07:58.959 --> 00:07:59.959 - That's still worried on the plane. 00:07:59.959 --> 00:08:00.800 - Wait, wait. 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:04.800 The 230 to 330 the best time when it's like fully happening. 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:05.639 - Yeah, that's what it was. 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:06.480 - Yeah. 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:12.319 - Yeah, it says it's like the total solar eclipse from 301 to 308 or something like that. 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:13.160 - Okay. 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:14.839 - So there's a,- All cars closed. 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:15.839 - 230 to 330. 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:17.399 So, don't call. 00:08:17.399 --> 00:08:18.240 - Don't call. 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:21.160 - And then everyone's gonna be rushing in with whatever happens after this solar eclipse. 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:22.959 - We'll be too busy stirring up the sun. 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:24.199 - Right. 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:27.279 Okay, well, I guess we should, I'm Dr. King. 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:28.480 - Oh, I'm Courtney Allen. 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:29.600 Devon Fortune. 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:30.759 - Ashlanduck, well. 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:31.920 - And we are here to provide you. 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:33.799 - And we are the vet in our office. 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:36.399 - And we are here to provide you with entertaining information. 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:37.480 - We do. 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:38.320 - Okay. 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:40.919 Does anybody wanna discuss about Devon? 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:43.679 You're kind of like been the, like, the,- Yeah, the genius. 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:46.200 - Go to person to talk about all things new. 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:47.200 And what we're doing is. 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:48.039 - Are we still doing it? 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:48.879 - Yeah, do it again. 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:50.519 - I'm gonna do it for the first again. 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:56.120 - Okay, going forward, you will be seeing us weekly with guest episodes once a month. 00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:01.840 And if you haven't already, come look at us'cause we are looking at, like,- Faya. 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:02.679 - Yeah. 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:04.360 (laughing)- Yeah, that. 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:05.200 - Faya. 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:06.039 - Tomatoes. 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:07.720 - Tomatoes, red peppers. 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:08.559 - Yep, Terry's. 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:09.399 - Red hot chili pepper. 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:12.679 - Speaking of fire on Saturday, it was 70 out. 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:16.399 I sat outside and my face got a little sun burnt. 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:17.240 - That's so nice. 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:18.080 - It's forever. 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:21.919 - I was like,- Did you see me on Monday at work? 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:22.759 - Yeah. 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:23.600 - I was burnt. 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:25.080 - I have a farmer's tan line. 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:25.919 - Cast from Easter. 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:26.759 - 'Cause I was outside all day. 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:28.159 And I got burnt, like it hurt. 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:29.000 - Yeah. 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:33.279 - And it's like,- It was one day a time when you really- Frag your skin 'cause you're not used to it. 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:34.120 - Yeah, that's okay. 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:36.279 - But you're like,- You need that vibe of a deity. 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:37.120 - Yep. 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:37.960 - Yeah, telling you. 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:40.519 - There were tons of old oppression was over on Sunday. 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:41.360 It's back. 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:43.200 (laughing)- It is back. 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:46.600 (laughing)'Cause it's,- And now it's going away. 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:49.960 - It's like,- It's like,- Come on,- No, I don't see this solar eclipse. 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:52.919 - Come here and see the solar eclipse in your winter jacket. 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:54.600 (laughing)- Yeah. 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:55.440 - All right. 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:56.679 - Well, let's start icebreakers. 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:57.519 This is new. 00:09:57.519 --> 00:09:58.360 I wasn't here last week. 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:00.679 So, I don't know what's happening here. 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:04.840 - Okay, well, go ahead and read the question or the statement. 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:05.679 - You know what you got. 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:06.519 - You do it. 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:07.360 - Okay. 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:09.200 - Hi, my name is Alina. 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:10.440 - I would say Alina. 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:11.279 - Alina. 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:12.279 - Alina? 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:14.799 I'm a veterinarian from Russia, which is super cool. 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:15.639 - Super cool. 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:19.600 - I was wondering what books on dog and cat psychology you consider the best. 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:22.200 At gastroology.bet. 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:23.039 - Gastrology. 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:23.879 - Gastrology. 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:24.720 - Gastro-galactic. 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:25.559 - Do you think can do hard? 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:26.399 - I do. 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:27.240 I always make words hard. 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:28.080 I'm just not good with words. 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:29.720 - Me neither. 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:31.679 - So, it's pretty cool. 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:32.519 - Yeah. 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:33.360 - Got a question. 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:35.279 - The Russia thing blew my freaking notice. 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:36.120 - Yeah, I know, that's what I'm looking for. 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:37.279 - That's what I'm looking for. 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:40.080 - Because I just feel like, like 10 people watch us or listen to us. 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:42.600 So like the fact that like,- My mom's one of them. 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:47.679 (laughing)- Well, a mom, a mom, a mom, and a mom, and a husband, there's five. 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:48.519 - That's all I think. 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:49.840 - That's all of the 10 people. 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:54.279 (laughing) All right, so this is pretty cool on lots of levels. 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.240 So, the fact that she's from Russia. 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:59.519 - And it's a very interesting question. 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:00.360 - Yes. 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:01.600 - It's not something I think about. 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:06.159 - Well, yes, I bet you could think about it because Devon and I talked briefly about it the other day. 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:07.000 - I talked about it. 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:07.840 - It was you and I. 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:08.679 - Okay, you and I. 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:09.519 - I don't think so. 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:16.320 - Because we were like, okay, there are some books out there on, because I'm thinking like psychology, I'm thinking behavior. 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:17.639 - No, okay, yeah. 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:24.559 - Yeah, okay, so like now you can probably think of some really good texts that talk about animal psychology, how they think, right? 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:27.279 I mean, what's the definition of psychology? 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:29.080 Because you might know at the top of your head. 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:33.559 - You know, I'm mastered my apocyc exam, but I can't give you the definition of that. 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:34.559 - Of psychology. 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:39.000 (laughing)- Probably the way the brain works, how that people make decisions. 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.080 (laughing) Shall I look at that? 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:41.919 - Yeah, you need to look at that. 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:42.759 - Okay, okay. 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:43.600 - No, I don't know. 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:44.440 - No, I don't know. 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:45.279 - No, I don't know. 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:46.120 - You're coming in. 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:49.279 - I'm just like, does anybody know the definition of psychology? 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:51.279 - Because maybe we don't address the problem. 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:55.799 - Okay, it says,(singing) I just clicked on the right. 00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:56.639 - All right. 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:03.200 - The scientific study of the human mind and its functions, especially those affecting behavior in a given context. 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:04.039 - There we go. 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:04.879 - Yeah, the same stuff. 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:08.519 - A behavior, so behavior and how maybe they think how they process information. 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:13.600 Okay, so I guess, Sophia Yen, but that's training. 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:14.759 - That's a week's end. 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:15.759 - Yeah, good. 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:16.600 - Good job. 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:17.440 - Okay, yeah. 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:22.600 I also, well, this is more for training, but Zach George has dog training revolution. 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:24.279 So that's training. 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.120 - I also say that. - But it's great. 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:40.440 Sophia Yen, and then Karen Pryor, because in the one book that she has, which getting started with clicker training, I believe is the name of that book, in the very beginning, she talks about how dogs and other animals think. 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:41.879 Like, and how they process information. 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:49.639 And so she does that just so she can explain why clicker training is so advantageous for that particular species or whatever. 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:52.600 So I think that is kind of along these lines. 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:58.720 - The best cat one, I recommend to all the time is decoding your cat by the American College of Veterinary Behaviorist. 00:12:58.720 --> 00:12:59.720 - Mm-hmm. 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:03.000 - That I've actually read it, and it goes through the behavior. 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:03.919 - I wanna give that a read. 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:06.039 - Yeah, the psychologist is really good. 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:14.240 - And then the other one is,- Oh, it's called feline behavior and medicine, feline medicine and behavior. 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:17.440 It's like a, it looks like the color, like plum. 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:18.279 It's, you know. 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:19.279 - I don't know, anyway. 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:20.120 - It's really good. 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:23.440 - It talks about cats and their behavior and why they do what they do. 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:34.000 And then the other source would be, well then we read that whole article series on cat behavior and Ohio State has all that information in their pet initiative. 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:36.559 - Yeah, has all that information about behavior. 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:39.000 - I printed it off a sheet of top rated book. 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:40.000 - Oh my gosh. 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:40.840 Okay, excellent, let's hear it. 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:41.840 - I did my research. 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:43.000 - What you got? 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:45.799 - The most, okay, so this is from 2022. 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:46.960 - Okay. 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:54.840 - But the most popular author that came up, his name, his or her name, I'm not sure, is Zazie Todd. 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:55.679 - Oh. 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:56.519 - He HD. 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:57.360 - Okay. 00:13:57.360 --> 00:14:06.759 - There's one that's called WAG, the science of making your dog happy, and the cat one is called per the science of make your cat happy, and then there's ones, here in one moment there's multiple pages. 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:14.480 (laughs) Then there's the cautious canine, how do you help your dogs conquer their fears? 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:15.759 - I'm so cute. 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:17.679 - That's really cute. 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:18.840 - From Seared WannaCouch. 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:20.200 - Oh that one's called the fox. 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:21.200 - Yeah. 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:22.200 And how about your day? 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:23.200 - Talk about their feelings. 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:24.519 - Yes. 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:35.759 - And then there's another one called, or that one's by Patricia McConnell, and these ones look like you could all purchase them online, and then there's from,- Beautiful. 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:37.519 - You think in Russia they have Amazon. 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:40.919 - I was thinking the same thing when I was taking them with a world. 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:42.159 - There's no way. 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:43.000 - Yeah. 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:43.840 - Yeah. 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:44.679 - Fact check. 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:46.840 - Please respond back and let us know if you have Amazon. 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:53.159 - But anyway, yeah, if you look up, if you just type in on Google, best psychology books, this list is the first thing that pops up. 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:54.000 I thought it was cool. 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:55.919 And I'm interested in kind of want to read some of them. 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:58.759 - There's another book called Good Dog, Bad Dog. 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:04.799 That's another easy, information book that's good for owners. 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:08.440 Like you can pull stuff out of it and give it to owners. 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:14.080 - I'm sure the college of veterinary behavior has a dog one now. 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:21.360 Well, Landsberg, isn't that that guy's name Landsberg that wrote the big, that blue book that is, you guys hardly ever used books when you came out of school. 00:15:21.360 --> 00:15:27.679 But it's a big blue book that's about behavior, feel like you don't know what you're talking about. 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:30.360 - Going to the other's name is Landsberg. 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:31.360 - He's on Vieram. 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:32.200 - He does stuff. 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:35.000 - Decoding your cat, they have a decoding your dog. 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:35.840 - Yeah. 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:37.600 - And the American College of Veterinary Behaviorist made that one too. 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:39.000 - Wow, I'm gonna recommend that. 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:39.840 There you go. 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:41.120 - 'Cause the cat one's so good. 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:41.960 - No, I guess so. 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:42.799 - Yeah, but there's a dog one too. 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:43.720 I wanna read Perth. 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:48.360 Yeah, he's a pretty good, but yeah, Zazzy Todd seems to be the... 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:49.200 - The guru. 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:50.080 - Mm-hmm. 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:51.080 - That's amazing. 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:51.919 That is fascinating. 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:52.759 - There we go. 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:57.000 - I learned this is good because now when people ask, you've got even more resources. 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:57.840 - Yeah. 00:15:57.840 --> 00:15:59.080 - So great question. 00:15:59.080 --> 00:15:59.919 - Great question. 00:15:59.919 --> 00:16:00.759 - Great question. 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:02.519 - I have to say the disclaimer. 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:08.960 - If any listener has any other icebreaker questions, they want us to pick apart. 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:14.960 DM the All Star Veterinary Clinic, social media accounts or email Harrison at KingmediaMarketing.com. 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:15.799 - Wow. 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:18.000 - We would love your iceburgers. 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:18.919 They're fun. 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:20.159 - Yes, please keep on coming. 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:21.000 - Iceburgers. 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:22.159 - Breaking news. 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:23.320 - Breaking news. 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:24.399 - Iceburg ahead. 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:25.240 - Oh my gosh. 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:30.320 - I'm so stupid. 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:31.320 - Sorry. 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:32.320 - Got me surprised. 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:33.320 - Breaking news. 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:35.480 - Did the breaking news catch you by surprise? 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:37.039 - It caught me by surprise, actually. 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:38.399 - Because my wife is in ding. 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:39.399 - Oh, no. 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:40.720 - She just remembered. 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:41.559 - I just remembered. 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:42.720 - She got the earpiece going. 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:43.720 - She's not the earpiece. 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:44.559 - Got it. 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:46.399 - Nobody else can see it, but she has it. 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:47.399 - It's in her glasses. 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:48.519 - It's congestion. 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:50.759 - Today's viewing. 00:16:50.759 --> 00:16:52.200 - Can you sponsor my day, Quill? 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.919 (laughing) Just for me. 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:56.480 - I'm kidding, day, Quill, don't get mad. 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:57.320 Okay. 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:58.159 - But you can't sponsor us. 00:16:58.159 --> 00:16:59.000 - Or are we happy? 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:00.000 - Yeah. 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:01.399 - Yeah, that's actually great. 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:02.240 - Or are we in need? 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:05.960 - So this is a response to last week, I guess. 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:06.960 - Yes, 'cause we were in here. 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:07.960 - I don't know why you're here. 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:08.799 - So we're in here. 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:09.640 - No, I'll read it. 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:12.319 - So thanks for mentioning my question on the podcast. 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:18.759 To follow up, I've always been told that when pushing Safazolin,- Ha, Safazolin. 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:19.599 - Safazolin. 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:20.599 - We even told us how to print it. 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:22.119 - Even spell it, right? 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:23.119 - And then at the bottom. 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:23.960 - Like so we can. 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:24.799 - Yeah. 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:27.079 - But with the dashes and everything. 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:28.200 - You don't come down to the middle. 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:29.039 - Yeah. 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:30.039 - And like the meadow tomato. 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:30.880 - Yeah. 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:31.880 - I was always taught in school. 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:34.920 I was always taught in school, Safazolin. 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:36.079 - You said Safazolin last week. 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:37.880 - I know, but that's 'cause I thought other people. 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:39.559 - So, that's how it's supposed to be said. 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:40.400 - Anyway. 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:42.400 - Like smart people say Safazolin. 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:44.400 - Okay, we've been told to stop interrupting each other. 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:45.240 - I'm sorry, remember? 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:46.079 - Did I not say Safazolin? 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:46.920 - You did. 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:47.920 - I don't know what you said. 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:48.920 - It doesn't matter, keep going. 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:49.759 - Okay. 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:58.039 - If you push too fast, it can cause the patient to vomit, which we obviously do not want, especially because we frequently use it during surgery. 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:10.920 On the case I saw the doctor was on, the doctor that was on had no luck in prior cases with any of the other methods and asked us to push Safazolin quickly and then boom, vomit. 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:13.400 Usually the dose I see is 22-megapirchic. 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:18.079 PS, it's Safazolin. 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:19.759 - So, anyway, it's just wrong. 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:20.599 - LOL. 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:21.759 - LOL. 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:22.599 - LOL period. 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:23.759 - That's what he means business. 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:24.640 - That's what I mean business. 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:27.279 - That's from FreddyStory.vett. 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:28.440 - I love the engagement. 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:29.279 - I'm gonna say that right. 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:30.279 - Thank you, thank you, thank you. 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:31.440 - Is it out of this? 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:33.839 - No, he gave us that last time, so it was fine. 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:36.119 Okay, yeah. 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:36.960 - Interesting. 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:37.799 - LOL. 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:38.640 I wanna try it. 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:39.720 Would you guys be interested in trying it? 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:43.240 Or, well, Safazolin? 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:45.279 - Yeah, to end this vomiting in the cat. 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:47.000 - Yeah, 'cause like what harm would do? 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:52.599 - That's what I'm thinking is the only thing I can think of is, I suppose you weigh your pros and cons, right? 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:59.759 Like, the pro of giving an antibiotic, we know how fast it selects for resistance and when you don't need it with the animal ate something that's gonna kill it. 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:01.200 So, do you really care? 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:02.720 So, you go ahead and give this to Safazolin. 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:06.480 - Also, is that the only adverse reaction that happens? 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:09.119 I thought there was blood pressure, you have to worry about too. 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:09.960 - I don't know. 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:12.400 - Maybe that's pentopresol or something, I'm not sure. 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:13.400 But, yeah. 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:17.400 - I mean, there's various ones we give slowly for reasons, but I don't know. 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:24.480 I mean, I feel like, if you need to make a moment, if you have other options, so probably exhausts other options first. 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:25.640 - Lighting. - Yeah. 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:26.480 - Yeah, I agree. 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:32.000 - Even hydro, I mean, you're giving it and you're making a vomit. 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:32.839 - Right. 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:35.039 - Like, if you're still like side effects associated with the hydro. 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:35.880 - Yeah. 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:39.319 - So either way, I suppose you're gonna have side effects. 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:41.240 - We don't really do the hydro for cats though. 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:43.559 To make a vomit. 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:45.799 - We give dex, sorry, dex. 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:48.640 - And I was like, yeah, my brain was mixed up. 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:52.000 - Yeah, dex, I'm sitting here watching, thinking of my head watching a cat vomit, yeah, dex. 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:53.000 - Yeah. 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:56.319 - But I mean, because I'm thinking,- But the dex will make them, yeah, sedated, yep. 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:59.880 - I don't know, I mean, I think we should try it. 00:19:59.880 --> 00:20:00.839 - I think we should try it. 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:03.920 - I think we should come up with a new medication. 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.640 - Oh, okay, we're gonna be in a good,- I am not torturing my cats. 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:11.039 And they will already come in, hissing and growling and try and do it. 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:12.640 - Yeah, you can't get it, IV. 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:13.799 - Okay, watch it. 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:16.359 - Well, it's not, I need you. 00:20:16.359 --> 00:20:17.200 - Oh, my cats are eating. 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:18.039 - Oh, try to. 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:20.960 - I am so ready for this bond cat stuff to come out. 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:22.119 - We found his happy, his happy days. 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:23.200 - I was like, what's up with him? 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:25.400 - I tried to kill me one last time. 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:27.640 - He found his magic, his magic. 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:30.640 - We are gonna use the bond cat stuff out the wazoo when it comes out. 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:38.839 - I'll be honest, I'm one of those owners that I really try not to bring my cats to the vet unless it's a quick trip because it stresses me out. 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:45.599 And maybe that's just 'cause I've seen all the cats get super stressed, so I don't wanna to happen to my cats. 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:47.480 They've been okay, just, yeah. 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:51.039 - I'll definitely give bond cat a try when we have it though. 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:53.319 - Yep, I think it's gonna be huge. 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:54.160 - Mm-hmm. 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:55.000 - Okay. 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:56.000 - We get to test someone at the clinic. 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:58.240 - We can get, oh my gosh, what's it drew? 00:20:58.240 --> 00:20:59.079 - I need that. 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:00.079 - You're a spoof, it's a little bit. 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:01.319 - You don't wanna be a clinic cat. 00:21:01.319 --> 00:21:04.599 (laughing)- We take really good care of them. 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.839 - We take very good care of them, but you can use them for practice. 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:10.640 (laughing)- Did you remember? 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:11.480 - Before that. 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:14.319 - So fast, so little. 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:16.119 - Oh, yes, so look at that. 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:17.279 - So fast as always. 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:18.880 - What products in our clinic? 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:21.880 Like, do we have straight, stuff is on, injectable? 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:22.720 - Yeah. - Yeah. 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:23.559 - Okay, I didn't know. 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:24.880 - 'Cause we use it in surgery. 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:27.519 - I didn't know if it's like, convenient. 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:30.480 - Well, with, convenient. 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:32.240 (laughing)- We have a sufficer. 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.599 (laughing)- They're both cephalosporins. 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:35.440 - Okay. 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:40.599 - So, one's a first generation cephalosporin and one's a third generation cephalosporin. 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:42.440 - I've just never seen like straight out of the cat. 00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:43.279 - This is all one. 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:44.279 - Because I'm always turning around. 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:45.119 - Oh, yeah. 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:47.960 - 'Cause we only had first generation cephalosporins when I started. 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:49.440 - Okay, that's what I was wondering. 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:50.759 - Nice. 00:21:50.759 --> 00:21:52.599 - You're not old, you're wise. 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:53.799 - Yeah, thanks guys. 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:54.799 - So wise. 00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:56.319 - So wise. 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:59.160 - All right, pets, pets, pets and peaks. 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:00.359 - Peek and pee, pets and peaks. 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:01.279 - Pets and peaks, pets and peaks. 00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:02.119 - Pets and peaks. 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:03.279 - I know, I just spoke about that. 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:06.839 - Ooh, pets and peaks could be, ooh. 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:13.480 It could be like a little shop where you pet animals and then your peak could be a little sweet dream. 00:22:13.480 --> 00:22:14.920 This is a great. 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:17.000 - This is the idea. 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:17.839 - It's kind of cute. 00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:22.839 - There's a new copy place off of 38 and a little Chicago. 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:25.920 Hazel, that little Chicago. 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:26.759 - Where? 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:27.599 - Is it named? 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:28.759 - To Paris and peaks. 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:29.599 - No. 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:30.440 - I just saw it today. 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:31.440 I drove by it twice. 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:32.440 - I drove by there every day. 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:33.279 - How did I know that? 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:34.279 - 38 and hazel. 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:36.599 - There's a huge flag that says copy. 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:37.440 - Oh, that's it. 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:38.440 - Oh, it's a big white horse. 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:40.079 - Yeah, yeah, it's been there for a while. 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:41.079 It's called something. 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:42.079 Harrison, what's the name of that place? 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:43.319 - Is it the old dentist office? 00:22:43.319 --> 00:22:44.160 - No. 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:45.400 - No, no more copies. 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:46.240 - No more copies downtown. 00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:48.640 - I thought it was in a garage now. 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:50.599 - There's another building on the property. 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:51.440 - What? 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:52.279 - It's like a garage. 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:53.119 - I'm just thinking. 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:53.960 - It's really cool. 00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:54.960 - I don't know where this is. 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:56.359 - I don't know where the tax trees I drop in. 00:22:56.359 --> 00:22:59.640 It's like a home good, like, like, like,- I'm sure you're in some sort of place. 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:00.799 - Kind of place. 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:01.640 - Almost awesome. 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:04.240 - Those are Chicago turns into hazel, all right. 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:05.920 - What's your pits and peaks for the week? 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:07.440 - Yep, I'm going last. 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:08.279 - Okay. 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:09.119 - I'll go. 00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:09.960 - Okay, go for it. 00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:11.200 - I have two pits, peaks. 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:12.200 - Okay. 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:14.200 - My first peak was this week with my birthday. 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:15.279 That was a very good day. 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:19.039 - It was a really gross day outside, but it was a good day. 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:28.680 And then my other peak is I did, so I'm not very comfortable with them, nor do I do them often, but I did a standing system on an 80 pound dog today. 00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:30.039 And it was a male. 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:30.880 - No. 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:32.519 - So then the penis is in the way, and I did it. 00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:35.599 - No!- And I got it first try because--- Don't let that penis stop you. 00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:36.440 - No. 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:42.920 (laughing)- But yeah, it was just, she's so happy, yeah. 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:48.799 But it was, yeah, it was very rewarding'cause it was an emergency and we didn't wanna, yeah, I was a mess, but anyway. 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:50.359 Yeah, that made me feel really good. 00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:52.359 - Well done, well done, well done. 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:59.640 - My pit was my personal dog, my own dog is having some behavior issues, and it's really irritating and frustrating. 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:02.160 - It's really hard to practice but in a nice, - A very home. 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:05.079 - Yep, and it's just, yeah, it's infuriating. 00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:05.920 - Yeah. 00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:10.519 - Because I did all the work and I socialized them as a puppy and it's just like I didn't do anything. 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:12.720 But stay after it, stay after it. 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:15.240 - It'll be okay, it's just very frustrating. 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:16.680 But he's still young, yeah. 00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:18.200 - He's like a teenager right now. 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:19.359 - He thinks he knows your story. 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:20.200 - He knows his story. 00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:21.039 - He's just in his rebellious days. 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:22.440 - He's got a penis. 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:26.079 (laughing)- He has penises, they are always those having it. 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:27.680 - Yeah, I'm just kidding. 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:30.039 (laughing)- Hi. 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.759 - Okay, my peak is I'm going on spring break on Saturday. 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:36.559 - Where are you going? 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:37.400 - A rubah. 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:38.240 - Yeah, a lobby. 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:39.359 - With Bet and I. 00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:41.119 - With you, which child? 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:43.519 - All of them except Harrison and Madeline. 00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:44.359 - Wow. 00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:45.200 - I'll go in his place. 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:46.039 - Where are some sunscreen? 00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:49.839 - Yep, sunscreen and a cabana and nice. 00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:50.680 - That's so exciting. 00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:51.519 - It's fun. 00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:52.359 - It's 17a colata. 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:53.640 - So because it's Johnny's senior year. 00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:56.039 So we're going and with like five other families. 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:57.200 So we're really looking forward to that. 00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:58.200 - Oh, that's really fun. 00:24:58.200 --> 00:24:59.200 Those are fun trips. 00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:00.039 - Yeah, it's a good time. 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:01.279 - It should be a good time, right? 00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:04.119 - Do you know how this solar eclipse is gonna be in a rubah? 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:05.359 - It will not be present. 00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:06.200 - At all? 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:07.039 - No. 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:07.880 - It's not in the past. 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:08.960 - It's amazing. 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:10.720 So you guys have to take pictures. 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:11.559 - We will take pictures. 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:14.119 - Are we allowed to take videos or is that like bad for your eyes? 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:17.359 - You just can be like, what if you want to rewatch it? 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:19.039 Do you have to wear goggles every time you watch it? 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:20.079 - Oh, I know, that's a good question. 00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:21.319 - I remember when I was in the school. 00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:22.319 - There's pictures on the other Google. 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:23.160 - I had a good eye. 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:24.559 - Does it hurt your eyes when you look at them? 00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:26.240 (laughing)- Did you ever get it? 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:28.000 - Did you look at it afterwards and not worried? 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:28.839 Did it hurt you? 00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:30.000 - Yeah, she could Google the stuff. 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:32.240 - I used goggles and then I also didn't use the goggles. 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:33.079 It was fine. 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:33.920 - Yeah, so. 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:35.880 - So, I mean it was for a split second. 00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:37.880 - We're doing it again, we're talking over each other. 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:38.720 - My pit. 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:39.720 - I don't know if I have a pit. 00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:41.759 - Oh, King, you didn't have a pit last week either. 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:43.640 - I'm just cut like,- You're not perfect. 00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:44.480 - Pills? 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:46.119 - That's always good though. 00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:46.960 - Yeah. 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:49.319 - Like anything that you're like, like a bummer. 00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:53.680 - Anything that's a bummer. 00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:54.559 - I can give you one. 00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:55.920 Your life's just perfect. 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.319 - No, it's not perfect. 00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:01.519 - Your life's just perfect. 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:05.039 (laughing)- I have a hard time finding pits. 00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:06.920 - Yeah, she's a good in law. 00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:08.880 - I'm just, I wish I could do that. 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:10.160 - Come on. 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.000 - You can, it's a choice. 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:14.480 - Wake up every day, loving life. 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:15.720 - I, you know what? 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:16.559 You know what? 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:18.599 - I love life, but I still pit. 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:21.039 - Well, the pit is, is. 00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:22.400 - It better be good. 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:23.519 - It's not anything good. 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:24.519 - Right. 00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:32.240 - No, I was thinking like of the whole thing that we're managing with Dr. Dudley and I with the people submitted the,- Oh, are you allowed to talk about? 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:33.079 - What? 00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:34.680 - The thing, the complaint. 00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:37.559 - Yeah, we were talking about that. 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:38.400 - Are you? 00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:39.240 - Well, I'm playing. 00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:40.079 - Why not? 00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:40.920 - I don't know. 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:41.759 - I feel like this is really a surprise. 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:43.039 - Because Chrini and I don't know. 00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:45.440 - So yeah, so that's probably the pit. 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:47.480 - There's a complaint being filed. 00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:50.400 - But I'm not sure what, why, why? 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:52.319 But that's for them to figure out. 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.200 So just working our way through that. 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:56.480 - More details to come. 00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.559 - More details behind the cameras. 00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:02.559 - In 26, however many, how old I am, I've never had to do that. 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:03.559 Fascinating. 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:05.839 - Because you build a freaking awesome clinic. 00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:08.680 That's when your lawyer husband comes in the play, right? 00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:09.920 - Yeah. - Yeah. 00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.160 - But no, he's not in charge about. 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:12.319 - Oh. 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:13.160 - So there you go. 00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:14.680 - I guess he used to be, but not anymore. 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:19.920 - My other peak though is the two associate veterinarians at the clinic learning their TPLOs. 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:25.160 They've done multiple cadaver dogs now and they're getting ready to do their first procedure on Monday. 00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:26.240 - On a clip stage. 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:27.400 - On a clip stage. 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:28.480 - On a clip stage. 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:29.319 - Monday's a big day. 00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:31.559 - Oh yeah, you better hope they're not still in their surgery when. 00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:32.400 - So they shouldn't be. 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:33.240 - They shouldn't be. 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:34.079 They timed it yesterday. 00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:34.920 - Yep. 00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:35.759 - They should be great. 00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:37.000 - And I'm super excited for them. 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:38.119 So yeah, that's my other one. 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:38.960 - That's really cool. 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:39.799 - Yeah. 00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:41.359 - Long time coming. 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:42.640 - Does it hurt your eyes? 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:47.039 (laughs)- Oh, I'm blind. 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:48.200 - I'm blind. 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:49.440 - I'm so happy to take a video of it. 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:50.279 - It's okay. 00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:51.119 - Yeah, it's okay. 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.000 - All right, Devon, no, you wanted to go last. 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:53.839 - Yeah. 00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:55.039 - All right, duck wall. 00:27:55.039 --> 00:28:01.640 I think I mentioned my pit yesterday and I was like, I shouldn't, I'm gonna talk about on the podcast because I'm better. 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:03.920 - So we talked through it yesterday too. 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.000 But anyways, and your feelings are valid. 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:16.200 - Yes, my last couple weeks, I've had a couple clients where I feel like I just really have gone gung-ho for them throughout their pet's lives. 00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:18.960 And like I felt like I have a good relationship. 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:29.000 And then sometimes they just are like, I prefer to have so-and-so's opinion, like another doctor's opinion, or they prefer another doctor instead. 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:38.799 Or, and so it just like gets to you after a while because the bitter side of me is like, why do I even go-- Why do I bother? 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:39.640 - Why do I bother? 00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:40.480 Why do I go that? 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.160 - I invest emotionally into your work. 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:43.000 - Yeah, right. 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.839 - Because you get so emotionally exhausted and compassion fatigue anyway. 00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:52.640 So then you have those ones that you go that extra mile, and then you're like, well, shoot, what's the point? 00:28:52.640 --> 00:29:00.160 And then, of course, your feelings get hurt because you're human and then you start to question, I always do, what did I do wrong? 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:01.000 What can I do? 00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:01.839 - What's my problem? 00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:02.680 - Yeah. 00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:08.240 - And so yeah, I just been thinking about that and it wasn't just one scenario. 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:15.799 One scenario I tried to just say, okay, whatever, but then when it's a couple back to back, close together, it's kind of like, what the heck? 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:16.640 Yeah. 00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:19.319 I just wanna be like,- Hello? 00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:20.160 - I don't care. 00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:22.920 (laughing) I don't care. 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:27.119 So yeah, anyway, so if anyone's ever felt like that, it's normal. 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:27.960 - Yeah, it's real. 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:28.799 - We get to, it's real. 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:30.440 - Yeah, it's human. 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:31.279 - And it's a real feeling. 00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:32.519 - I mean, yeah, it's valid. 00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:36.440 It's something that happens, especially just because of the nature of the job. 00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:37.279 - Yep. 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:43.119 - And it's not always about you, but even if it was about you, just learn from it. 00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:44.279 - But still, I'm better. 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:45.960 (laughing)- I'm better. 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:47.480 - I'll be better for a little bit. 00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:54.839 (laughing) And then my peak, I think is,- Hmm. 00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:56.640 - I don't know. 00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:57.799 Saturday. 00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:02.799 - Saturday, my having my baby's number one. 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.000 - There you go. 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:05.160 - First. 00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:06.000 - My number one. 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.319 - First birthday party. 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:09.680 We had a postponate because she was sick last week. 00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:12.960 Hence, day, quill, congestion. 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:14.079 - Conj- what? 00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:15.640 - Conj- congestion? 00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:17.599 - You said congestion? 00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:20.359 - No, since day, quill is sponsoring me today. 00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:22.880 - Oh, I thought you were thinking of another word. 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.640 - No, she shared it within the household. 00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:26.920 - She's now your sharing. 00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:28.079 - Yeah, she's sharing that word. 00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:29.079 - And that word, the first. 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:30.160 - Not next week, but then we got here. 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:31.200 I'm going on vacation. 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.200 Woo! Woo!- Okay, so there you go. 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:35.720 - I'm going on vacation. 00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:36.720 - I like it. 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:37.559 I like it. 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:38.920 - Maybe, and I'll show where. 00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.559 - That's okay. 00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:44.400 - You're going somewhere, you're going in June. 00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:46.319 - I'm going to Kentucky from my mom's year. 00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:47.759 - That's not a vacation. 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.240 - I mean, it is a turkey. 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:50.079 - I love Kentucky. 00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:51.079 - No, it's not relaxing. 00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:51.920 - I love it. 00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:53.480 - What's a yoga retreat? 00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:54.319 - It's a little. 00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:55.160 - I'm not doing yoga. 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.920 - And there would be the chef and the cleaning crew. 00:30:57.920 --> 00:30:59.599 - Yes, my dad and I cook and we clean. 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:00.960 That's why my mom takes us. 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:02.599 She called me "bubble."- Nice. 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:04.240 - It's not a relaxing vacation. 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:05.559 I'm about to do any yoga. 00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:10.119 Granted, I'm not a fan of yoga, which is dumb, but your mom's going to hear that. 00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:10.960 She knows that. 00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:11.880 I've told her that. 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:14.039 - Okay, Devon, you're up. 00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:14.880 - Okay. 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.279 I'll share my peak first. 00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.200 I'm going to see Morgan Wall and tomorrow with my mom and sister. 00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:20.799 - My sister's going to my, really? 00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:21.799 - Yeah, I didn't know. 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:22.640 - Yeah, I'm excited. 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:23.480 - I'm excited. 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:24.319 - You don't. 00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:29.640 - Tomorrow, I have my first day off of first requested day off of work since September. 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:35.039 And I'm just really excited to have the day off because I need it, especially after the week. 00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:39.319 So that kind of leads into my pit, which also moves into my case. 00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:41.079 - Ooh, that's my, oh, thank you. 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:41.920 - I like it. 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:42.759 - Okay, that's why you wanted to last. 00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:44.000 - I like it. 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:45.000 - That's good transition. 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:46.200 - Nice work, okay. 00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:57.160 - So my pit is this week we had a two of our kind of regular, actually pretty regular patients pass away. 00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:00.039 And we are really close to both of their owners, I feel. 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.680 Excuse me. 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:04.960 Oh my gosh. 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:06.279 I don't know why it's in a week. 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:07.119 - See, we care. 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:08.119 - We can wait, do you want to wait? 00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:09.400 Do you want somebody else to go? 00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:10.880 Yeah, okay, thanks. 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:11.880 - Are we doing cases now? 00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:12.720 - Okay, so, okay, so. 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:14.200 - Okay, so, okay, so. 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:15.400 - My, I'll go. 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:16.240 - Okay, you go. 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:19.319 - My case is another update. 00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:23.480 Alan, Mr. Teddy, everybody loves Teddy. 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:24.319 - Teddy. 00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:25.480 - Yeah, he's, what? 00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:26.880 - Recap, Teddy. 00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:28.319 - Oh, he, I was getting here. 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:29.319 - Oh, sorry. 00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:32.160 - He is our 10 year old Golnertreever. 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:33.640 Wow, he is not that old. 00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:34.799 I'm so sorry. 00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:35.920 He is seven. 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:36.920 - He's only seven? 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:37.759 - Yes. 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:38.759 - No, really? 00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:39.599 - Yeah. 00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:42.079 - He's like six in a few months, but he's seven. 00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:47.839 Anyway, he came in for the first time since his last chemo treatment yesterday. 00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:52.559 For just a general overall reach, kind of feeling his lymph nodes he always doing, things like that. 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:54.920 He is doing really, really well. 00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:56.519 He's eating great, no vomiting. 00:32:56.519 --> 00:33:01.519 He's acting like his normal self, going on walks, playing with his house mate, just happy, go lucky guy. 00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:07.119 And I think two of his, he had a poplidial and then a sub, sub-indibular. 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:08.279 - Sub-indibular, yeah. 00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:17.599 - Okay, lymph node that was slightly enlarged, but I don't think it's enlarged enough or he's doing poorly enough to enforce a rescue treatment on him. 00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:19.960 So all in all, he's doing pretty good. 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:21.400 And it's very exciting. 00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:22.880 And everybody got to see him yesterday. 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:26.000 He went on his normal walk through the clinic, which was really fun. 00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:30.920 So they said they bake his kibble and like chicken broth or bacon grease. 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:31.759 - Yeah. 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:32.759 - This is the cutest thing. 00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:33.599 - Yeah. 00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:34.440 - You just imagine it. 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:35.880 - So their other dog is smelling it. 00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:37.200 - Yeah, yeah. 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.319 - Their other dogs get in super fat. 00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:41.000 Who also has autoimmune disease. 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:42.079 - Yeah. 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:43.079 - Yeah. 00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:46.119 But yeah, they were just prominent is how I would phrase it. 00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:46.960 - Yeah. 00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:47.799 - He was able to measure him. 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:54.759 So reaching out to the oncologist that helped with his protocol, just to make sure that there's no rescue therapy. 00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:58.720 I'm assuming I wouldn't have to since he's doing well clinically, is that correct? 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:00.200 Have you ever had to do rescue therapy? 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:09.400 - I mean, they probably will, they'll probably let him ride out, I would think, until you feel like, you've got like multiple lymph nodes that are big again. 00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:10.239 You know what I mean? 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:12.039 Or-- - Like it was fairly noticeable. 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:13.239 - It's the patients doing poorly. 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:14.840 That'd be another factor, right? 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:15.679 - Oh sure. 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:16.519 - Yeah. 00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:17.360 - He was so happy to see ya. 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:18.199 - Yeah. 00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:21.199 - Who's like chattering and he was really happy carrying his leash around. 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:22.440 Yeah, he's a really good dog. 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:23.280 - He's cool. 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:24.280 - We all were so excited to see him. 00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:25.119 - Yeah. 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:25.960 - Yeah. 00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:26.800 - It was very exciting to see him. 00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:27.639 - Yeah, me too. 00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:28.480 - Miss him. 00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:29.320 - Like, although, okay. 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:30.320 - I'm just gonna push through it. 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:31.159 - I'm gonna do it. 00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:32.000 - No, it's okay. 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:34.480 So we have talked about Murphy on here before. 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:38.880 He's like a 250 pound great name that had some weird swelling of his paw. 00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:46.280 We ended up referring him to a facility for a CT, to have a CT done. 00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:54.199 And I guess the day of the CT he was having a hard time so they didn't start his procedure until a little bit later in the day. 00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:56.039 And then they did the procedure. 00:34:56.039 --> 00:35:00.760 He had a really hard time waking up so they decided to keep him overnight for observation. 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:07.280 And then went home the next day and mom said it took him like six times to even get in the car. 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:10.960 And then ever since then he was just super well-fargic, not really eating. 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.840 Really drooling. 00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:17.599 He didn't throw up or have any diarrhea but he was just drooling puddles. 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:34.559 And so that was a week ago and then the following Monday she called telling me all that information and we recommended bringing him back to the special T facility just since they had just seen him. 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:53.199 So she brought him back there and he got diagnosed with aspiration pneumonia and recommended hospitalization with oxygen supplementation which the owner decided to not do just due to finances'cause he's a very large dog and it was very expensive. 00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:57.400 So they brought home medications and we're just gonna try to treat him at home. 00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:01.760 And then I came in to work the next day and she let us know that he passed away at home. 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:03.239 - Yes. 00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:05.000 - Yeah, from the pneumonia, I'm sure. 00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:16.239 - Yeah, and when I called in doctor it was just, like I think it was difficult'cause there was a little hope'cause like his oxygen level she had said at the end of the facility was 94. 00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:27.320 So it's not ideal but I think there are some optimism there that they could still maybe try the outpatient care especially since that was their only option at the time. 00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:35.760 But then he just declined pretty rapidly overnight which I guess it happened very quickly. 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:38.360 - And so is this temperature was 106.9? 00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:40.320 - Well, I didn't know that. 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:41.760 And a fever is 103. 00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:43.599 - Wow, I did not know that information. 00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:48.719 - Yeah, I have his report when he admitted, wow, for not doing well, he was 106.9. 00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:50.920 - Wow, yeah. 00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:52.239 - That's really sad. 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:53.079 - Yeah. 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:53.920 - I'm glad he was with his family though. 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:54.760 - Yeah. 00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:57.480 - He didn't pass it, like if they decide to hospitalize him I'm glad he didn't pass it. 00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:58.320 - Yeah. 00:36:58.320 --> 00:36:59.159 - I'm glad he was with his family. 00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:00.000 - That's pretty much right. 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:02.360 - He was that sick, like, yeah. 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.639 - That could have very well happened at the hospital for sure. 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:06.880 There's only so much we can do. 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:08.880 - He never actually got the CT report back. 00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:10.000 So I'm curious. 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:11.440 - I know, I haven't gotten any lead. 00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.719 - I looked for it but I couldn't find anything. 00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.599 - So that's who I'm Paul, I don't, who knows what that is. 00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:17.599 - Cause I feel like I'm just gonna... 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:21.199 - And we have this after the procedure. 00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:26.360 She actually also reported that his Paul was getting significantly worse and it was turning like yellow. 00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:27.199 - Yeah. 00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:28.559 - Maybe it's something very large. 00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:30.440 - You could have had a tumor somewhere. 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:31.599 - He's a big dog. 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:32.440 - Yeah. 00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:38.639 - So like that was enough for the three days that I worked this week and then the next day we had... 00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:39.920 - Well, my case actually. 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:40.760 - Yeah. 00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:41.599 - So perfect. 00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:42.760 - Look at that. 00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:44.400 - Segweze. 00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:50.559 Last episode or two episodes ago, I discussed this patient that had a lot of issues. 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:54.199 So recapping liver issues, heart issues, seizures. 00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:59.639 And then incidentally came in for just a bald skin spot and ended up having 8,000 platelets. 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:09.119 So we just started the treatment essentially for our suspected immune-mediated for our most out of pinia, so ITP. 00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:14.559 But as we started to follow along, it was so weird and interesting. 00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:19.239 Like we rechecked to CBCs between five to seven days, multiple times. 00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:21.920 His platelets were responding to the treatment. 00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:33.239 So that tells me that that category we're on the money, so to speak, of what we thought was going on, but he kept becoming anemic. 00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:36.440 Like he was already anemic from the start, but it kept getting worse. 00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.880 And so the anemia pattern was regenerative. 00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:45.079 So I was concerned that he was bleeding somewhere or the red blood cells were being destroyed. 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:50.639 But we, Dr. King actually worked in and with me and we looked everywhere if there was blood anywhere. 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:55.239 So chest X-rays, fast scans, a full abdominal ultrasound. 00:38:55.239 --> 00:39:02.760 We had a panic chemistry at the beginning and it wasn't, it didn't coincide with destruction. 00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:08.000 So this last recheck, so we changed the protocol as we went through. 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:14.599 Like we tried to cover for a potential GI bleed, even though there was no blood in his poop or his vomit. 00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:17.679 And he was doing okay. 00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.000 Like his platelets at the second last check were adorable. 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.920 334,000, I was like, oh, this great. 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:27.559 At least we know like he's not gonna spontaneously start to bleed. 00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:35.440 Well, this last time yesterday we rechecked and it wasn't a clean stick, but his platelets were still really low. 00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:47.360 Even if it wasn't a clean stick and the reason why you worry or if it's not a clean stick, you worry about clubbing or an inadequate platelet value while his were low again at 71,000. 00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.760 But then now his anemia was worse. 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.639 His hematocrit went down to 14%. 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:54.679 And then he was no longer regenerating. 00:39:54.679 --> 00:40:01.559 So his body is no longer responding to the low blood cells and he looked not good. 00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:04.639 He looked like he was struggling. 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:05.719 He was a very pale. 00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:09.679 So anyway, talk to the owner. 00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:19.760 Unfortunately about his lack of response and worrying that the autoimmune disease is at the level of the bone marrow. 00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:24.079 I had talked to an internist just the Friday before. 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:27.440 So three days before and she said it could still be a GI bleed. 00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:29.519 You just don't visibly see any blood. 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:34.079 And then of course, what is his bone marrow doing? 00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:38.480 And so yeah, just honestly kind of set it was straightforward. 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:42.079 I was like, unfortunately, we have to consider quality of life. 00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:45.840 He's not responding or we have to refer for deeper diagnostics. 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:48.480 We literally just can't, we're at our with said here. 00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:49.679 We can't do anything else. 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:53.199 And that would include a blood transfusion as well. 00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:53.880 Right. 00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:55.679 And so we talked about it. 00:40:55.679 --> 00:41:07.079 Also consulted with his neurologist that she really trust to and even though that's not his field, at least it's another brain that, you know, I talked to him about the case and he was worried about the bone marrow. 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:16.039 And so ultimately, unfortunately, she decided for he made new tenasia, which truly was the best decision for him. 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:21.039 Not just because he has a whole bunch of things going on, but he really, he wasn't doing well. 00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:21.559 Right. 00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:22.559 So, yeah. 00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.199 Yep, yep, yep. 00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:26.079 It was a tough case. 00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:26.599 Yeah. 00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.840 And it had me thinking like, what did I do wrong? 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.159 What's going on? 00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:38.599 But it would have been a lot of commitment financially and just, I don't know, diagnostic. 00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:39.480 It's tough for him to go through. 00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:40.000 Yeah. 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:42.519 To try to figure it out if there was something to even be fixed. 00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:43.320 Right. 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:46.000 You could do all those tests and then you may still not be able to fix him. 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:47.000 Yeah. 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:49.800 Yeah, we have a saying that's just because you can, doesn't mean you should. 00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:50.800 Yeah. 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:52.760 You know, so that's always something to agree with my beloved. 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:57.920 My case is a, I want to say he's like eight, nine, ten, something like that. 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:01.119 It's a doctor, a fast patient that came in as a new client. 00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:10.239 New patient on Tuesday and the owner called in to the surgery department and wanted to schedule a cherry eye surgery. 00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:15.280 And so the surgery technician said, sure, we can schedule a cherry eye surgery. 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:16.760 He needed it done by a certain date. 00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:19.480 And so we're like, yeah, we can get him on Wednesday. 00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:26.760 But before you come in, we need to have a veterinarian see you because we have learned the lesson that it's not always what we think it is. 00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:28.960 It's not always what the clients think it is. 00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:38.679 And so this is a perfect example of that where you know, you listen to clients and you should take what they say, you know, and listen to it and rely on it. 00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:41.480 But also they also don't know a lot of times what they're talking about. 00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:43.880 Or they'll lead you down the wrong path, you know. 00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:50.559 So you thinking, you'll be thinking it's vomiting and it's regurgitation or you're thinking it's cherry eye and it's something else. 00:42:50.559 --> 00:43:06.800 So this was in fact one of those cases where it came in, the patient, he came in to see Dr. Faust and Dr. Faust looked at the eye and was like, that's not a cherry eye because it was a large mass associated with the third island. 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:14.119 And so it looks like a cherry eye, like from the standpoint of like if you were looking at a picture, maybe in a book, yes. 00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.639 But even then it's way too big because it wasn't scrolled out. 00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:23.119 So like a cherry eye for all those people out there that don't know is a prolapse of the third island gland. 00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:27.719 So there's a gland that sits underneath the third island that provides tear production. 00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:39.079 And sometimes it will prolapse and so it rolls out and it looks like this cherry just sitting inside, you know, inside the, I guess the eyelid kind of sort of in the third island. 00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:43.639 So you can surgically tuck those back into place. 00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:48.199 We should never be removing them because then we have issues with tear production. 00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:57.039 Unless you had a tumor, then you could in theory remove the third island gland and then just medicate the dog for the rest of its life if you wanted to try and save the third island gland. 00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:09.559 Anyway, so this dog came in then on Wednesday and Dr. Cloud did a, a nucleation, but did it involve like so the eyelid shut and then took it because we were concerned about a mass. 00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:15.880 So then took all the tissue around the globe itself and the globe and removed it and then we'll submit it for pathology. 00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:16.880 And then it was insane. 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:17.880 Yeah, it was big. 00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:22.559 I mean, I could even tell where the eye was like when you looked at him, you couldn't see the eye. 00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:23.559 So was it coming out of the eye? 00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:25.239 Well, it was part of the third island, for sure. 00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:26.239 Yeah. 00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:33.400 But like when you retro post the globe, which makes the third eyelid come up, it, it, it, it was up already. 00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:38.679 Like it, it didn't move at all because it was so large that you couldn't open his eye anymore. 00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:40.800 His eye was like to be able to see his eye. 00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:41.800 It was huge. 00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:42.800 Yes. 00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:43.800 Oh, wow. 00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:49.800 Compared because I was, I didn't like get up post look at him, but I looked at him through the run yesterday morning and I was just standing there and all like, where is his eye? 00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:53.360 And then the other eyelid was like all the way up, well, with the mass and whatnot. 00:44:53.360 --> 00:45:02.000 But like his eye was like up here pretty much like that sort of looked like it was so pushed up by them because like the mass was like his whole like it looked like as I have all then, but as I was up here. 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:03.000 Oh my gosh. 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:04.239 Like it was getting pushed, right? 00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:05.239 Yeah. 00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:06.239 Yeah. 00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:07.239 It was insane looking. 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:08.239 Wow. 00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:13.599 So he, we enuclated his eye, Dr. Cloud, a nucleotid, and that should hopefully solve the problem. 00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:14.599 Yeah. 00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:15.599 So now he does his permanent, will he? 00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:16.599 Yeah. 00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:17.599 Exactly. 00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:19.599 I just had a puppy come up with one eye. 00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:20.599 I did well. 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:21.599 They do. 00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:22.599 They actually do. 00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:23.599 They don't seem to mind. 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:24.599 No, they accommodate very well. 00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:25.599 It's very interesting. 00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:26.599 Yeah. 00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:27.599 So that's my case. 00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:28.599 That's good. 00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:29.599 All right. 00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:30.599 Okay. 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:31.599 Listener questions. 00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:37.039 Do you ladies deal with any drama between staff members? 00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:41.039 How do you deal with it at a underscore? 00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:42.039 I'm a K. 00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:43.039 Hill. 00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:44.039 M. K. 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:45.039 Hill 44. 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:46.039 I was going to say MCC. 00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:47.039 A. 00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:48.039 Hill. 00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:50.039 I like the question. 00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:51.039 Yes. 00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.039 And no matter where you have a good story. 00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:56.039 Oh, you do the head world role story, the head role role. 00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:57.039 Yes. 00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:58.039 Okay. 00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:02.039 So when I first started back in 2019, too, I can mod that. 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:07.800 I'm just a young little spy out of school scared of everything. 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.840 And I had started at all star. 00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:14.199 So to answer your question, there, yes, there's always is going to be. 00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:15.199 There's drama. 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:16.199 Absolutely. 00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:17.199 Especially because of women. 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:19.639 And then ruled for the most part field. 00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:20.639 Yes. 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:21.639 You do what you care, right? 00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:22.800 There's a lot of estrogen. 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:27.039 And at the time, there were just some issues with the culture. 00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:32.000 I wasn't, I'm not still not really privy to the details, just because I just come in and stuff. 00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:38.119 But I remember one day after work, Ms. Dr. King over there gathered all the technicians. 00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:40.679 She's going to, oh, damn. 00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.559 And basically was frustrated because there had been drama. 00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:47.079 And all I heard from our office was. 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:48.079 This is news to me. 00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:49.079 I was not aware. 00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:50.480 It was in 10 heads will roll. 00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:53.079 I was in a media school. 00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:56.239 If people don't get their ish together, heads will roll. 00:46:56.239 --> 00:47:00.920 It wasn't, that was very, I don't think I've been scared of many people in that moment. 00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:01.920 I was scared of you. 00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:11.960 I never, I wasn't scared, but I was like, and it's funny because if you knew Dr. King, it's just not something you've ever, unless she's just at her with set, right? 00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.159 She was, right, fully so very at her. 00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:16.360 I was, I remember that day, very, very scary. 00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:17.360 Yeah. 00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:18.360 I never amad. 00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:24.519 So I'm sure when I got mad, I was like, I was like, but I just remember sitting there like, holy shit. 00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:26.360 I don't know how to do anything wrong. 00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:27.360 That's how I felt. 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:28.360 I'm in trouble. 00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:29.360 I had to roll in my head. 00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:32.199 Oh, no, it was a very intense conversation. 00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:33.639 Which it needed to happen. 00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:34.639 And guess what? 00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:36.800 We did out people that were not good for the culture. 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:37.800 It sure did. 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:44.719 And that's, I think then to that point, yes, we have drama, but we also have a very strict policy of no gossiping. 00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:55.920 You figure your ish out between the two people if you don't or help with leadership can help you do it, but you, everyone tries to protect the culture because it's been worked so hard at. 00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:06.880 And it's really hard to expect just one person, you know, like so me, for instance, to manage everything in terms of the culture, right? 00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:08.039 Or the drama. 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:14.559 So you really do have to rely on other people to say something if they see something and it's really important. 00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:21.440 Like so, we have a policy of like grievances should be handed up, not sideways and not handed down. 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:36.039 So, you know, if you hear, if you, if Devon is talking to a room assistant and saying something negative or something that's gossipy and the other person she's talking to doesn't say, that's not something we do here. 00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:46.199 And you, even though you may not be agreeing with it, even though you may not be participating, what you're not, don't think you're participating, you're still condoning the behavior in your platform for the behavior. 00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:49.119 So you have to be willing to say, you know what? 00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:57.440 Sorry, I don't feel comfortable talking about that because we don't talk about that because that's how we protect the culture and we want it to be a good work environment for everybody. 00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:01.880 And until people are willing to do that, and not everybody's comfortable with that, right? 00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:11.639 And that's why I think it's so important to have the core values in everyone's head because then it's very easy to bring things back. 00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:16.920 It gives the other employee a thing they can say, like, that's not, you know, our core values are this. 00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:19.920 So our core value is loving, that's not very loving. 00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:21.280 So I don't want to talk about that. 00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:23.599 Or our core value is atmosphere. 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:28.320 And by talking about this person, we're not creating a good atmosphere for everyone. 00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.119 Are we perfect at it? 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:31.119 Absolutely not. 00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:36.159 So the important thing is to know that you're constantly working at it, right? 00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:42.920 So it has to be, you know, culture is kind of like something that you constantly have to be working on. 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:52.559 And when you're not, if you just let it go, then things happen, it just goes, it just stuff happens because you have a culture whether you know it or not. 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:56.960 You know, and so I think people just have to really say something. 00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:57.960 Yep. 00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.400 And all the way down to the high school student. 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:01.400 Yep. 00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:07.639 I mean, people have to be willing to say something in order to create an environment in which they want to live in every day. 00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:24.639 And those people need to be willing to take it too because there's, it could be so easy if someone, you know, tries to do the right thing by saying something in the other person, the other person just starts building this like animosity or bitterness story in their mind. 00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:25.639 Yeah. 00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:30.320 You have to just kind of accept what the culture is or don't be a part of it. 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:31.320 Yeah. 00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:39.719 And I think that, you know, we, the other thing we set up back then when all of that was going on was operate, people were operating under the wrong assumptions. 00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:47.079 So we set up a, you know, like basically what I did was talk about, everybody needs to operate under the assumption that everyone's doing the best that they can do. 00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:48.079 Yep. 00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:49.079 Right. 00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:50.079 So you're doing the best you can do. 00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:51.559 You're doing the best you can do to get into that room on time. 00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.679 You're doing the best you can do to clean up after yourself. 00:50:54.679 --> 00:51:00.639 You're doing the best you can do to, you know, talk to the client as nice as you can and handle their problem as nice as you can. 00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:03.039 Does that mean that you're, that you're perfect at it? 00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:09.679 No, but, but when someone comes behind you and sees a mess, they're not thinking they just left the mess because they just want me to clean them up. 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:11.400 No, they're doing the best they can do. 00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:12.400 Yeah. 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:17.599 You know, so it changes, you know, what you're thinking in your head and then your opinion. 00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:20.760 But the other thing is it's so easy for our brains to make up stories. 00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:22.000 And that's how drama happens, right? 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.159 Because the story happens in a second. 00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:27.559 You walk past Devon in the hallway and she doesn't greet you. 00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:29.559 So the thing then your head can be like, she's mad at me. 00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:30.559 Yeah. 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:31.559 I'm not talking about her birthday. 00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:32.559 Oh my gosh, she's mad at me. 00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:33.559 She didn't say, she didn't say hi. 00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:34.559 Yeah. 00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:41.159 Oh, wait, there's about a thousand other things that someone sitting on the sideline could say are the reason why she didn't say hi. 00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:52.880 And so like, I think teaching people to operate with, and again, nobody's perfect at this, but teaching people to operate with the facts instead of their feelings also solves a lot of those problems. 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:53.880 Yep. 00:51:53.880 --> 00:52:02.119 So it's so much more than what we could answer in this podcast, but I think being aware of it is the first step. 00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:09.119 And then finding out tools and having a posse of people at work that are interested in changing it. 00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:10.119 Yeah. 00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:11.119 Yeah. 00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:12.119 Is how you can make a difference. 00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:13.119 Yep. 00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:18.760 I think sometimes people have a hard time because it might be their boss that's actually the one that's contributing to the drama. 00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:19.760 Yes. 00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:21.159 I've heard that's a big thing. 00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:22.159 Yeah. 00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:29.360 It's, I don't know, or there's that one person that just dogs on everybody all the time and they're talking crap about everybody. 00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:30.760 That could be hard too. 00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:36.800 Well, and the thing is, if you're not willing as a leader to address it, then now you're the problem, not the person. 00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:37.800 Yeah. 00:52:37.800 --> 00:53:01.119 So I think that's really important is that if people see you allowing behaviors to occur, and I don't know what this person's position is in their practice, but if you are allowing things to occur, then you become the problem and your staff then really start to regret, you know, and just aren't happy with, they'll start to, I can't think of it, resent. 00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:02.119 Yeah. 00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:03.119 resent what you're doing. 00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:04.119 Mm-hmm. 00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:05.119 For sure. 00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:06.119 Yeah. 00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:10.559 But it is, why is our field so stressful and stressful? 00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:11.559 Okay. 00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:12.559 Women are emotional. 00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:13.559 Full of what? 00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:14.559 Yeah. 00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:18.559 So, you know, you're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:20.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:21.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:22.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:23.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:24.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:25.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:26.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:27.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:28.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:29.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:30.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:31.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:32.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:33.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:34.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:49.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:50.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:52.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:53.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:54.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:55.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:56.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:57.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:57.559 --> 00:53:58.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:58.559 --> 00:53:59.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:00.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:01.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:02.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:03.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:04.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:05.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:06.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:07.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:08.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:09.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:10.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:11.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:12.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:13.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:14.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:15.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:16.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:17.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:18.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:19.559 You're not going to be able to do that. 00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:34.559 We all know all the jobs, but we're a team. 00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:37.559 We've lost a lot. 00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:46.559 It's hard when you have so many, you know, you get, because that's part of the job is, it's more than just a job, right? 00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:50.559 One of the things that we talk about is being emotionally invested in the job. 00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:57.559 Then that trickles over to then your care, which is also, you know, so it all piles up. 00:54:57.559 --> 00:54:59.559 Especially when you talk to that one or it's like every day. 00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:00.559 Yeah. 00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:03.559 But can you imagine doing it any differently? 00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:06.559 I love it, but as hard as it is, it's always worth it. 00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:13.559 Because when you go and you're making those decisions and you're sharing information with them, you feel like you're actually in it with them. 00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:19.559 Like you're actually accomplishing and getting places and going places with them with the care of their pet. 00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:26.559 And it creates a entirely different experience, not only for the owner, but for you guys as caregivers. 00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:32.559 And so I think it's way more like at the end of the day, you're able to go, okay, I have a purpose. 00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:36.559 I meant something, this meant something, and it did. 00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:40.559 And to your point earlier about the pet, like that's why then it hurts so bad. 00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:44.559 Because you know the value behind all of that. 00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:49.559 And so then when it's not, when you don't feel like it's appreciated on the other side. 00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:50.559 Yeah. 00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:51.559 You know, it's hard. 00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:52.559 Yeah. 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:54.559 It's like a one way relationship. 00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:55.559 Yeah. 00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:56.559 Doesn't go anywhere. 00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:57.559 Yeah. 00:55:57.559 --> 00:55:58.559 Yeah. 00:55:58.559 --> 00:55:59.559 So. 00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:04.559 But I just always think of two like places I go or experiences where you can feel like they don't care. 00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:05.559 Oh my gosh. 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:11.559 I'm always like you would get in so much trouble. 00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:13.559 Or like you're waiting forever. 00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:21.559 I'm like, there's no like I could not work with that philosophy of like not caring or not being accommodating or not responding right away. 00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:25.559 Like it's just it's such a night and day experience. 00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:32.559 And granted, we're not ever going to be the clients that come into our clinic the way that you know other people are. 00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:36.559 So we won't be on that side ever really. 00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:46.559 But you still can try to put your your mind and your shoes and those people's feet and like I go the doctor or I'm just mind boggling. 00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:47.559 Yeah. 00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:48.559 How do people get away with this? 00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:52.559 That's the other day because I was on hold for like 30 like you know you get on hold with people. 00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:53.559 Yeah. 00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:55.559 And then like this is a dumb example, but like Taco Bell. 00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:59.559 Jacob and I went there after we went there after Taco Bell. 00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:04.559 And we were after a brewery on Friday night and we were in line for 45 minutes and ended up leaving. 00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:08.559 And I was like if we ever did this it also fired like his fast food. 00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:12.559 But you know, yeah, I was like, all jaw has the same importance. 00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:13.559 Yeah. 00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:14.559 And service space. 00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:15.559 Yeah. 00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:16.559 I need my food. 00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:18.559 And I look at my food and I love. 00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:21.559 And you know the drama is going to affect patient care. 00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:22.559 Yeah. 00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:23.559 That's it. 00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:27.559 And so I mean like if you can't get people to buy into changing that mentality. 00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:29.559 At least you can bring it back to patient care. 00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:31.559 Like listen, it's going to affect patient care. 00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:32.559 Yeah. 00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:34.559 You should care because it's going to affect patient care. 00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:35.559 True. 00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:36.559 Yeah. 00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:37.559 Pretty. 00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:38.559 Yep. 00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:39.559 Well great question. 00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:40.559 Great, great. 00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:41.559 We got off on hold. 00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:42.559 We got a lot of pain. 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:43.559 But that was good discussion today. 00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:44.559 Yeah. 00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:46.559 So you guys are going to be missing Dr. King and I next week. 00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:47.559 Oh, we got a record. 00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:48.559 Yes. 00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:49.559 Oh, bye bye. 00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:50.559 And I have a lot of time. 00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:51.559 I'm going to be. 00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:53.559 Let's bring that beer. 00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:55.559 I'm getting my wisdom seed. 00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:56.559 That's no fun. 00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:57.559 Comment any tips because any tips. 00:57:57.559 --> 00:57:58.559 Comment if I have tips before. 00:57:58.559 --> 00:57:59.559 For Devon. 00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:00.559 Kind of. 00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:01.559 There we go. 00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:02.559 Yeah, it's my brother. 00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:03.559 Devon which is all. 00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:04.559 I just gave it to you. 00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:05.559 Yeah. 00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:06.559 Yeah. 00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:07.559 I know. 00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:08.559 So see you in two weeks. 00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:09.559 Oh. 00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:10.559 But. 00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:11.559 Okay. 00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:14.559 Thank you so much for tuning into another episode of the Veterinary Roundtable. 00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:18.559 Remember sending those questions and leave us a review if you enjoyed this episode or previous one. 00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:21.559 We'll see you next week for another episode of the Veterinary Roundtable. 00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:22.559 Woo-hoo. 00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:23.559 Woo-hoo. 00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:28.559 [MUSIC]

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