Weekly Marketing and Advertising News, September 10, 2021: Apple, Target And Costco Win The "Brand Game" During COVID
Welcome to another weekly marketing and advertising news update from The Radcast! In this episode, host Ryan Alford and guest co-host Joey Thompson recap episode with Anthony Ames, upcoming episode with Heidi Montag and big hitters. Talks social holidays #KissCancerGoodbye #911Day #PatriotDay, #DayOfServiceAndRemembrance #HackForChange #VideoGamesDay and more…
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It's like one level below like the shirt you really wanted and you go there and you think because you get it for 19 bucks I said a 39 bucks and it's not really what you wanted. You suddenly think you got the deal of century They get looked at that way because they're so big they make the most money and because People are ignorant to the fact of what I said that with convenience and service there's a price I admire people that Build a machine like they have Almost without anyone really knowing You're listening to the radcast if it's radical we cover it Here's your host Ryan all for you guys. What's up? Welcome to the latest edition of the radcast It's Friday September 10th 2021 yeah, and I'm joined by Joey Thompson. What's up, brother? What's up, man? How are we doing? We're good, man I like I didn't know what stay was so you told me so I'm glad I'm glad you're here to hold me accountable Hey, I'm gonna hold you accountable. That's what we do around here accountability, man You following me on Instagram is about accountability. It is you he's actually my sponsor Accountability buddy. Yeah, you're 13 steps to accountability Is that what it is? I don't know if right here. I don't know you're gone, sir. You're my sponsor. You're supposed to know, dude All right, I'm the worst sponsor ever. I'm looking for a new sponsor out there Yes, sure. How's the week been Joey? It's been great. I've been hanging out here Yeah, seeing lots of you any week. I can see my sponsor as much as possible is the best a week ever I've been a really bad sponsor though because I've seen you a lot and been like peeking over your shoulder, but not really like Truly sponsoring you you offered me three beers to be clear I think I did they have I think I was trading you beers for creative ideas. Yeah, that's simply how it goes The keg is tapped by the way you need to refill that wow though. I thought there was more than three left they Ryan has a a keg in the workspace. Yes, and do you find that people do you are you ever alarmed at the hour that you see people Using it. No, because as you get like notifications on my phone like after a certain point from the security cameras People coming and going and after 10 everyone seems to have a cup in their hand Yeah, and like it's like I thought they were working. I thought they were you know like getting stuff done I think you're just drinking the beer. Do you actually get about the the keg? No Yeah, you've got a sense around the cake. You have a smartphone sensor. How many how many beers get used? No, we are we aren't that cheaper on here Oh, yeah, but we do I do get notifications like at the door like cameras turn on like after a certain point Yeah, and so I'll start getting dinged on some nights like after 10 and it's like People coming in and out of the door or whatever and you know everyone seems to have a beverage Yeah, it's fine the janitors passed out on the floor the next morning you come in every time I come in the cleaning company You know like they've cleaned but then there's like this pool of beers, you know, I don't know if that's beer But that's their job to find out I don't know you get where you can start they have those bars with the wristbands, right that you have You know, so we're gonna do like beep and maybe we know how like keep up with how many each other each has I do it like a BBO in New York like do you they got they had a bar like a top four like all the New York Cool agencies have bars and like they got drink tickets. So like who I think they got like I don't know six a month or something like we go have I think a buy them But like they got six drink tickets or something. I'm like, you know We're smaller boutique agency. I can cover the beer and we keep some premium liquor in the bar So like I until it like gets out of hand That on my covering it. That's your pitch for people to New York to come to your agency Exactly. If you're out there now and you're talented and you like to drink Come to the agency Okay, last thing I say about it the if they have tickets you know, they're doing like prison rule type stuff Where it's like hey, man, let me get let me get one of them tickets, man. I'll write you a I'll do you ever truly in the AA is selling their tickets for dollar a piece or something, you know I'll write you a log line for your piece or whatever. They had any counterfeit tickets That's a big agency. They probably like 500 people like this is you know, yeah counterfeit tickets scam Yeah, at BBB BBBO scam Counterfeit drink tickets at the top of the bar. Can we take this to the market right now and just start our own scandal That yes, okay, we should I think we should just get tickets made and then go act like we're employees at BBDA Okay, and like go up the drink you know bar. That's yeah 500 employees. They're not gonna you know, we fit right in what they're like agency people Sure, I think they have so many videos now like I snuck into the Super Bowl. It's like I snuck into BBD with drink tickets see We're transitioning to Radcast news. Hey Did you actually you only think about cults? Uh, are you other than radical? Are you can you take off your shirt and prove to me you're not wearing a microphone right now? Because I'll I have one in my mouth right here. Oh, damn it. I forgot we're on a podcast. This has been recorded. I know about uh Yeah, Keith for Keith here for near. Yeah, I know that Yeah, so not well. No, I don't anyway. There's a show called a podcast a little bit culty, but Anthony Nippy Ames and his wife Sarah We're met. They're both actor and actresses actress and actor But they you know, Anthony came on and talked they got kind of Kind of unbeknownst to them pulled into a cult that got To be pretty infamous the owner was you know, long story short Podcast if you really want to listen to it. It was really fascinating. He talked about how I mean He was a Ivy League quarterback. He became an actor and then he got into this like personal development Company and he was like bringing people farming people in and all that It turned out to be a little nefarious and uh a lot nefarious like women. We're getting branded and turned out just be this wackos Was essentially just recruiting women and you know doing who knows what So uh in the ixm or nexium. Oh, okay. Yes, the key it is the key thing Okay, for second, I thought it was my frat, but no, it is actually I'm not gonna show you the brand anyway That wasn't fun Linda Kai Delta. Okay. Yeah, they have the uh The clear I've seen the HBO documentary. Okay. I have yeah exactly. So I know So Anthony came on and was very it was a different podcast for us like you know, it's usually like all business and he but it was more A warning of sorts. I mean sure literally, but uh I mean this guy's it is why a super intelligent super cool people And just how they got pulled in and it wasn't one of those where they got pulled in and they knew they were being pulled into a cult And they knew what they were doing was sometimes you get pulled in and eventually you become aware that you're supporting something very very evil Yeah, but you're so drawn in it wasn't necessarily that for them. They were supporting a part of the business that seemed legitimate But yet they had alarms going off in their heads and they know they're but it was really insightful And scary. I mean, I don't know. I thought it was like Anthony is just so transparent about like his experience and like the Kind of just the nuts and bolts of everything that kind of went on. Yeah Well, it's always interesting like uh from marking perspective like there is how do you like Do you manipulate people to be attracted to what you're doing, you know what I mean Well, you know what what we do every day in marketing, you know to the subconscious. That's not bad But this was really like I will say you know, we aren't we aren't trying to uh get women branded with anything other than tequila But you know sure Sure the fine line of Uh Well, that's like dedicating your life to you know like coke might be like hey you should grab a coke But this is like dedicate your life to this cause and farm people is what you said well like bringing them in yeah So that the business gets bigger they have more he it was like Tuberthian legitimate businesses quasi-legitimate that y'all didn't money That then supported the actual the actual undercover things going on is my Understanding of it having read a lot and had Anthony on you know, I haven't watched every Documentary on it or every episode, but I've read a lot on it now and Kind of scary, but I know it's more scary that like I think we all none of us are naive. We know there's evil people, but it's the same way there are Tamino so naive shit Okay, you didn't know. No, it's like but I don't know. I don't know my mind You don't want to sue truly evil. Yeah, it's hard to wrap your head around Well, you don't want to assume that kind of stuff is probably happening right under your nose somewhere or something and you're like oh Oh, yeah, so go check that out. That's our latest episode that released on Tuesday So go check that out. We've been getting some great feedback and uh It's definitely some dark points, but definitely some really insightful stuff So a little different you're taking on a pro role in that one. Yes Exactly right We uh co-founders of Netflix will be on today. We're actually recording an episode today. Oh, I'm not a co-founder of Netflix Yeah, did you tell people that I did let them know if you weren't you know, okay? That's right. Well, how'd you how'd you hook that up? Uh, dude, we're connected around here. I'm touted. I mean, I mean, I'm here right now Yeah, like you Heidi Montag will be on the show next week. Okay, from the hills Spencer's wife. How'd you hook that? I'm kidding We're doing work for them You want to come on we're gonna? Are you you're in the Luminati, I think It's all making sense now. Hey, that's how it is um I will be going on the Wolf of Wall Street podcast that are next month of the following working on the dates Right as we speak nice Jordan, Jordan Belford nice. I see him on TikTok all the time now. Oh, yeah He's all over the place. So looking forward to that more details to come. We'll tell you to end look out for that I'll be going to LA meeting with him and then catching up with Spencer and Heidi. Okay, and Who knows well. You're just LA guy now, dude. Hey, you're just Depp flying stunt flying, you know Wheeling and dealing they're gonna do a reunion of the hills, which they probably already have, right? Yeah Well, you're gonna be where were where were you bro? Hey, they need you dude. You could have been his like his guy, dude I missed it as if we'd start working together like eight months ago to might have been on the the episodes Well, the reunion chef. I have faith that the reunion will have a reunion. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, but we've got some big hitters I can't I can't even mention we've got Grammy a winning artist writer songwriters coming on the show. Okay, we've got I'm talking like big hitters big hitters big hitters Ha, production. Hey, man, we got it fixed Yeah, yes, thank you very much The uh, but yeah, it's a Bruno Mars. Can I can I give can I give me three guesses? How about that? Can I have two guesses? No I can't guess because I have one guess. Okay. Well, all right, super secret top secret also stuff Gonna be good Heat up. Oh boy. Do you know it's got some good national holidays coming up? Do we today? We've got some good serious ones the first two. Okay, we like to have fun around here But there's two today is actually stand-up cancer day. Okay My grandfather passed away from cancer. I've had other relatives. I mean it fixed everybody and so You know, it's One of those things that maybe we'll cure one day. I don't know. I'm somewhat one of those it feels like it's like one of those things We're never gonna Figure out like there's something gonna always kill us and sure, you know, I don't know It's one of those platitudes throughout life like about one day. They'll be a cure to cancer But like they'll be something else or they probably have a cure to cancer and Yeah, you mean there's all kind of conspiracies. I'm sure but yeah, it's you know We truly truly sad. Yep, and then tomorrow's a bittersweet holiday for me and that sounds weird But it's my wife's birthday. Okay, which is awesome. But I love my life It's 9-11 I've never been more torn in my life like I know I'm celebrating But I'm not celebrating. I guess you can have it can be binary like you can Not I mean you can separate the two and I do obviously, but it's like yeah How do you come a compartmentalized compartmentalized like the biggest terrorist attack in in our history With my wife's birthday. It's like the bird and you know what she's one of those people like she's never God though. She's not like a Debbie downer. She's not like my birthday's on the worst day You know like she just does she didn't she's for a birthday to be that man But you know some people would just yeah own it like man. I'll get the worst birthday. Sure You know like you just that and so I love her for it, but um, but it is you know We haven't happened in Afghanistan everything else for a reminder that freedom isn't free and sure You know, we've always gonna have people that You know want to Get at us for our way of life for like a better words a lot more complicated than that But well, I feel like the big ones are like the The anniversaries of 10 years 20 like 20 years. Oh already already gonna be big, but yes this year I'm sure there's going to be a Right now a lot of conversation or conversation and all that and I hate the fucking politics around it But you know, but I do support well that statement alone is pretty much been this past year. It's like It nothing is even stated without having a political you know, I mean exactly everything is but So Sunday, okay, we've got two holidays I think are a little related Okay, we've got the civic day of hacking Okay, great and fine national video game day. Oh shit double dip in the chip today Revenge of the nerds days what that would call that one dude if you are a nerd Great dude. Yes Supposedly it's like hacking for good. Okay, and I'm like Okay, it's like is that like stealing for good is that like Robin Hood Like That's that's a good question. I don't know. I find it like Interesting when anonymous is does a lot of like yeah Hacking for good I would think so I think it's cool sometimes I'm like Hmm people get their account hacked and and stuff happens like that. So I guess I kind of get it Sure, I like it, but hey, who you video game guy? Uh, I was when I was younger, but then I grew up and quit being a nerd. Oh I'm gonna get hacked now Wait, who'd you hack though if you could hack somebody and like mess up there Would you hack somebody? I wouldn't but like if I was like a criminal and I was gonna do it I like the central reserve or something like you know, I go for the big bucks, but like my dad's actually the founder of the central reserves Follow him Oh It's too late he knows so okay. All right. Can we strike that from the record Daniel? Yeah, don't do a Daniel or I'll put you on the watch list to it. All right. Look my kids love video games like Esports is huge like if you it's it's now cool to be old and play video games you know that sure And just stay at home and eat Doritos all day and yeah get paid for it. Do you Do you play video games? I play them occasionally with my kids. Which games do you play rocket league? They're kidding me. Are you kidding me mad or rocket? Okay, Madden. Yeah, I like Madden rocket league is awesome Do they not have actual real rocket leagues now? Oh, yes, like I'm really for rocket league But like in real life though don't people like drive cars into soccer balls I'm not trying to be funny. I'm serious Yeah, I think they do and they flatten Are you talking about like I think they have actual games that where people hit like a I have not seen this. Okay, maybe I made it out of my mind. All right. You get a dream like you You know a fever dream fever dream. Well, okay Do kids do they go do they spend a lot of time inside or do they go out? What do you know they have we they all play Multiple sports. Okay, he sports multiple he sports Accounters they own counter strike League of legends Hey, you know, we keep them we keep them we want them to be multifaceted in in their esports Oh, they're gonna get they'll play they'll play it as long as we not even let them they Other than a maybe Clayton my oldest For the most part they'll play it but then for an hour and then they're like they want to go outside They want to do something we go to the lake they're playing in water. We play baseball soccer Swimming that basketball like they're all in league so like they're not playing video games in their free Time a lot more than they're playing but they do you love some roblox I'm like you have me sold to the roblox bro When I'm waiting for like a high school is to have like a esports department and have esports letterman jack It's just yeah, it's probably coming. It's for sure Well heck yeah, dude shout out to your kids for going outside. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. We'll give them we'll give them that we got that Moving on The news of the heavy news the heavy marketing and advertising news of the week hold on can I pray for like 30 minutes before we get into this Okay Two strikes. That's two strikes for you strike two strikes That's the first yeah, Macy's is opening up toys or Russ Many stores within a store in 400 locations Okay, I was the rest went out of business like three years ago closed all the stores went bankrupt They're about buying all their toys on Amazon. Yeah, or at Walmart or You know at the flea market or not toys or us or not wherever the resell market eBay everywhere but to toys or us And so but the brand is not dead. They still have you know a holding company that owns the brand does all this and I guess Macy's license it and so you're gonna Starting next year. They're trying to do a little mini activation for the holidays But sure starting next year. There'll be mini miniature toys restores within Macy's That's you remember toys are us for you big. Oh absolutely. All right. I'm sure there's a tj max in town Right now and every time I drive past it I go fuck that dude. That's toys rust, bro That's where I went as a kid. Yeah, with that facade off now dude. Yeah, it's that empty for a long while, but then tj max one in there Fucking tj max dude don't even get me started. I don't know don't even Yeah tj max all these all these stores so don't get me started on the quasi discount stores. Yeah, like we get all the crap from the department stores that You think is sort of looks okay. Yeah, but it's not necessarily seconds But it's not the most fashionable stuff in the department store. It's like One level below like the shirt you really wanted. Yeah, and you go there and you think because you get it for 19 bucks Instead of 39 bucks, and it's not really what you wanted. You suddenly think you got the deal of century For sure. It's just a thrift. It's like a high. I don't say hi. It's like a high in thrift store, though You know what I mean? Like it's just what you would hope to find it all goods. I kind of get it Okay, I'd rather go there and spend five dollars on a pillow than twenty five dollars Like that I swear to get okay, but close Not so much. It's definitely hit her. It's a thrift store. It's like a goodwill that you would pay a little bit more than you would at a goodwill for Yes, that's it Goodwill. I don't mind going to a goodwill over down there. Sure, but goodwill good like old goodwill owns his shit, though TJ Maxx doesn't that's that's what your problem is when it goes charity, you know, yeah, I did not know actually profit Oh, I mean how dare a business be for profit But I do think so look you got two brands Macy's Department stores are hurting sure. Macy's is like what done the last holdovers like because everybody shops online and they're trying to revive it because toys toy purchases are actually up Really overall So as a percentage, they're like hey, we'll revive this put another brand within it We'll see how it goes, but I think it's gonna come down to what kind of toys we're talking about because typically You know the department store toys no different than like a TJ Maxx. Yeah, like this shitty fingernail That you like oh, it looks cool. It's cool packaging. It looks like the man Man fix kit or whatever you open it and use a fingernail clippers twice and they bust. It's like fuck Sure, but it look because it said man-scaping. I thought it was like mint for me What do you everybody's got toys now target Walmart Adam and Eve. There's just toys school or dude I want to be a toys rust man not a kid dude. I want to be a toys rust man Boys rust grandpa one day. I like it the Facebook, so Do you know they own jiffy? We've already went over giffy or jiffy. I I roasted you on that dude. I have a jiffy. I don't even know what jiffy is So oh gifs. Oh, yeah, giffy dude. Yeah, you have us using your mind on in your posts. I'm like verified on jiffy dude All my stickers giffy dude. Can we can we make a poll right now on your Instagram story? Is it jiffy or giffy, man? There you go. There's some free IG story content for you for you. All right Yeah, I like it, but so UK watchdogs are asking they think they think that Facebook owns too much. Yeah, too much no competition. So they got to sell jiffy I don't know which one's that neither one sounds good, but well either way So they own too much. So they have to make more money to probably buy something else with the money. They got Capitalism pretty much You know, like someone else did could buy them, you know, like so why are they gonna sell it? Oh, yeah I don't know man UK watchdogs. I All right, bro. I don't like gifs. Please sell them like what But how did that conversation go? I don't know But Anyway, I like giffy because I like my stickers It's if you're out there hey search what do you yeah jiffy Ryan offered The radcast you can search the radcast and we have stickers for the radcast search Radical, okay, we actually trending on radical we are on the first page if you look up radical in the In the Instagram hell yeah, we are on the first page there So yes Hell yeah, I think we need some Joey Joe with Sean sticker. I do some gifs. Yeah, we need some gifs gifs These are the gifts to keep on giving that will okay. I like that a lot right there man Yeah, applaud yourself. That was great. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. You not have a yeah We have a pretty pronounced beef now about jiffy Google yeah Like Whatever Google says to say and when you look it up there's like 50% call it gifs and I'll give you the UK watchdogs. Let's call it gif the pro call it gif bruv Yes, probably There we go. Okay, so moving on apple target and Costco So we're looking at revenue numbers and The bigger getting bigger They did extremely well during covid go figure who would have thought the whiteboard says the only stores that got to stay open Online offline Wow did well are the UK watchdog is gonna get them to sell part of what they own too. I love things Called a monopoly. Oh, no, they like to play Sure No, that's it Costco's becoming a monopoly where I was like sams are kind of Yeah, sorry, Sam Cliff Sam The uh That is a lot Somebody just get their toilet thing. What the hell is that So just don't ever place. We were really getting saves out the door there I could have smoked a cigarette during that toilet flush right there. Holy shit Literally holy shit Man, I okay. I love how the whiteboard says Winners among during covid, which is true, but it just feels like an oxy moron. It was a little while I'm yeah, I'm the covid winners me But you know like I'm I'm really not the uh right wing conspiracy theorist guy that's not me yet but it does like It's all the pharmaceutical companies getting huge all the big box retailers getting huge Apple staying huge getting bigger. It's just Justification people can justify. Well, people need it. They need it. You gotta stay. I can't gotta eat Yeah, some of these other stores should close, but they need it. They need all my pops need to close They fucking need us. We need mask and you need to close and then all the big black stores. No, they're okay Yeah, you know, you could go to lows and work on some stuff, but you know, we don't want you going to look a hardware store Sure, who does the clothes local look ordinance For sure. Yeah, I don't know anyway. It's shocker. They they got bigger during covid Well, I mean people haven't a voice so that this you ultimately vote with dollars. So if people don't like stuff That's a problem people are like I don't like this, but then they go continue to do it. So Called apathy and there's a lot of it going on. Sure We'll see if you will see I'm going to target later if you want to talk about this we can we can write over I was going to go there and have a I was going to cost go to get a hot dog in a slushy Over there. What's that you dollars? Let's do both and then we can go to we can go on the iTunes store and download them That's like people bitch about it. You're like, well, where you headed? Well, Johnny needs them overalls for Perth for back to school back to school. I got a good target. Sure And they were just like bitching about it on the radio station or the podcast Yep toys are may season toys rest. Yeah, well, I was gonna go to target. They actually have a toy department there and Well, there's only so you buy them now because toys rest closed Oh, okay, they'll be back at me Sure, so this fall Tech companies Just just broadly tech companies. Okay, I'm trying to be pushing more Private browsing which means incognito mode incognito mode. Yeah, you really aren't being tracked. Yeah, right Yeah, yeah, sure. Yes private browsing. I don't think private browsing. Do you think that tech companies Could lie to us about or be not true in their transparencies? Oh Okay, good all right Yeah, cuz I trust tech companies, you know big time. Yeah big time. I'm glad One of the largest problems with tech companies over the past decade hasn't been if they're selling our information or not Yeah, no, they have our data. Yeah, they would never never do that never But here's my thoughts on that like owning a digital agency number one. We need data Sure, but also say People want to get rid of data until you tell them that it means your conveniences are gonna go away sure You pay in data for convenience Okay, and so Be careful what you what you ask for and but at the same time Have we teeter too far it times yeah, but at the same time You have to be willing to give away some amount of personal information and things that you do to be catered to Sure, so there's a fine line of Not giving that away because everybody We all have kind of become very reliant on some of our our ability and flexibility and convenience so sure well I've had that moment where I'm I feel like the phone is looking Shows me an ad for something and I'm like, well, I didn't want that but in virtually been like oh shit, dude It's the thing I wanted yeah Yeah, it's it's we start giving it away you want to get and maybe you like panny hose, but like you want panny hose in your feed You know, I like or would your other have you know Swiss army knives or whatever the whole I want panny hose They make great ski masks for when I rob banks. They're great for that no well even on the data stuff though I I'm not that interesting You know, I mean so at times I'm like if someone gonna hack my thing. They're not gonna get that much money They're not gonna what are they gonna find out about me like my Netflix viewing history Oh Take take what you will cripple me Hey, they could serve you more of what you like probably you want to be served Less of what you like and more of what you don't like I want double panny hoses Double panny hoses what you want Maybe not they might be I don't know Bottom line. I'm Yeah, they're not gonna have it I read that and I was like I want to put it on here just to say that I don't think It's true Number one, I don't think tech companies want it number two. I don't think There's gonna be a push to it you you heard her first folks. Yeah right now for things tech companies are giant liars Not every one of them. That's the ones that hire us He's they're all liars. They don't look not every one of these companies are bad. No or intrinsically bad It's just 99% they get looked at that way because they're so big they make so much money and because People are ignorant to the fact of what I said that With convenience and service there's a price sure either pay with your data so that you don't have to pay with Your money with your wallet because look the services that Facebook provides with marketplace and with Connections to old friends. Yeah, and groups That has to get paid for in a way and it's called ads and it's called data because that allows the ads to run more efficiently to serve you more But what you want sure? I'm not saying that everything Facebook does is Perfectly great for the world. I'm not saying that there's gray and everything But I do think that consumers have gotten spoiled by the access and the convenience as we've been given that now they want to play the game of Oh, I don't want to give up this. I don't want to give up that. Well, you've been getting this Do you want to pay for it? And yeah, they pay for Netflix dude, you know Things like that, but it's not you know you pay for Netflix because it has no commercial. Yeah You want to watch TV for free then you're going to pay for We even oh somewhere else Even Spotify Netflix of the amount you have access to for the amount you pay is like And ridiculously cheap the amount of content you get on Netflix for 20 bucks 15 bucks a month Uh is ridiculous. Yeah, and Is probably the best value in marketing and and I'm not saying that because the Netflix founders is coming on today Mr Rudolph Yeah, call him Mr Oh, I don't know. Not many people. I'm a you know, yeah, but Mr One of greatest ideas in the modern history. Yeah, but yeah, it's actually a good value Some things aren't great value Sure, Netflix Disney plus with a boomer in me is like 20 bucks. I remember when I paid that much for a DVD Now I get to it's all you get unlimited access to watch them anytime you want You know now they're gonna steal my data honestly though. What are they gonna do with that data? You know what I mean like He likes rom com's crazy son of a bitch Lock him up lock him up put him in gear But it's a slippery slope. They start taking this to start taking that. Okay. All right. There it is Yeah, that's what they say. We'll see and you know what they say I don't what do they say? Whatever it is. Okay, you like bar stool I'm mixed on them, dude. If you keep it. I find myself to be most people would say that this guy's a bro But I feel like You know what I think I'll rate it. I'll say it on the day of port noise is a marketing genius. Sure. Sure I'll tell you that. Oh, probably the greatest marketer of our time whether accidentally is not right because he's too smart for that but like Sometimes marketing is very intentional. Yeah, he's Accidentally purposefully strategically Become the greatest marketer of our time like it's all of the above I don't really know the accidental the right word up for it's all intentional But like I think he's smart that he has the wisdom of someone who's older But he's appealing to people who are younger So You know a lot of kids that age aren't smart enough to do what he's doing. Yeah, and very very youthful approach. Yes You watch the piece reviews I did he's what I'll say about it The fucking boring at times, you know, I mean he's just eating pizza, man I sometimes see he gets to the homeless people to meander in and it gets awkward, but like To me, David Portnoy is a figure and he's not the most interesting man in the world. Yeah, I think it's we're going point counterpoint New York out accent combined with don't give a shit combined with Seems to have a good heart down deep. Oh sure, and I think that and you know like There's probably like five people that I would really Pay money to have like a beer with them on kitchen like yeah, he'd be one of them. Yeah, I You know, I mean, I'm pretty well connected. Yeah, but I'm not connected to Dave. Sure. I'd probably spend 10 grand to have a dinner with him The pick is brain and like just to be in his company. Oh sure He's okay. He's my thing with them though. All they do is a little repose fucking videos from kids that are already made It's not like the greatest or our interest at 100% what it is. That's why like It's great. They like put it all in the hub But I'm sure like the people who make this stuff are not getting They're due and more followers because barstals following sure So they piggyback on the back of that and that you know if they had 10,000 views on their own organically and then barstals post it they get up to 10 million, you know Sure, so it's good for them. Good for you know, it's exposure. It is and uh, I guess I've just not you know, I mean, I don't love them like some people of I think the content is it's interesting I don't love every bit of their content. I'm more admire them from for the machine of marketing and business that it is that people I admire people that build a machine like they have Almost without anyone really knowing it sure like they just think oh, it's a cool Instagram post and some people have now figured out they have monetized it in certain things, but I'd I'd bet Two years ago 80% of their audience didn't even know how they were monetizing It's probably a little more transparent now because they've got so big and days promoting certain things But like and they have other characters other people rough and rowdy sure Well, I do think yeah because what they do appeals to younger people like how how matter you're really gonna get at someone who I guess is fairly lighthearted at the end of the day Exactly exactly. That's why I think some things are just too serious Sure, my appreciation to them goes to the marketing and business side and then the lightheartedness That's under the undercarriage of most of it, you know, sure and they are launching a channel on sling TV Our school sports that makes sense honestly surprising to extend. I mean, I know it's almost saying that they would be the channel already But I think they've kind of been their own channel on Instagram and tick-tock and everything else But sure I was I did a PA gig one time on the wine walks they do. Okay, so I got to spend time with them and everything And that was I mean it was interesting. How was it with working with them? Uh good it was really straightforward. We had to Reggie Bush was one of the interviews and then so we got to hang out with him and then Anthony Lynn Yeah, what's it the basketball player the uh That's Jeremy Lynn Anthony. We're very good. Sorry. He's the coach of the chargers and uh, oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. He During the shoot he was like Hey, man. I got some tequila. You guys want to come to my pin house and drink tequila. I was like Yes, okay So we just went up there and I was playing Cornhole and his pin house and like this is the coach of the chargers and I wouldn't have known you know, he was just a guy had a great time And uh, if he's watching this right now, he saw me splash He knows I gotta arm he's a gift cred we're creds do I Yeah, uh, bar stool fan not more for the less the content more for I've seen the overall genius of it all. I've seen the tattoo. They haven't but I So my butt cheek um the uh gmo app He's moving on takes uh calls now and uh, oh, I was like okay. Yeah. Hell yeah. Is there anything that Gmail does it do? Oh Man reads my mind. I just me emails. It's just another phone. I can ignore the calls I know like hell yeah, anyone take phone calls anymore like like really like I do because I'm in I'm an agency and have clients and like But I think everyone else the lester like in the service or business or something like I get it calls from telemarketers a lot. That's why I take it 27 of those today and it's uh It's pro it's so funny. It's potential spam. Yeah, definitely spam and absolutely for fucking sure spam is the name on the phone sure I love it. Well, okay to go and back to some of our points if the hacker or kids on hacking day could just like hack some of these places Yeah, shut them down also I am like I'm glad the phones now say uh Probably spent what does it say scam likely? Yeah, so potential spam there has to be some data that transmitted to those companies that they're like identified This is spam. So okay, if you're gonna collect my data keep identifying these spam companies. Yeah, well it's supposed to be there's some kidding Greenville that won a lot of money for Mike because robo calling is like a legal sure and Like so if you get a call and you know it's robo calling And you get enough information from you can sue them and get money and supposedly a local kid has done a lot of money I need uh, I forget the name of him. He hit me up about doing some Instagram stuff for him and I forget his name cool kid nice nice guy I forget his handle and I'd like to give him maybe I'll tag him in this since I can't remember his exact handle I need to uh good call my lawyer real quick Um How you been robo calling again, and I know it's Been part of your At your sponsor. Yeah, what the hell? I really need you to quit. That was protocol. Oh, it's in the packet dude. Don't join cult. Don't hack. Don't do robo calling You see that's a callback. We're Brad and themes today. All right. Yeah, and finally today the matrix for Coming out in the fourth quarter. Wait, I love me some Nature I took a red counter Reeves. I like most underrated guy of all time. I'm not saying actor of all time God, I'm gonna fucking call you on that one brother. Hell no. I like him. He's not underrated He's like the most overappreciated guy. I don't have to say overappreciated just probably appreciated in this past Year has done like the ultimate reversal glow up of his like perception of him. Do you love him? But I liked him before this last year sure Maybe he's become way popular than I realized more popular, but you know who else liked him Movie studios with hundreds of million dollar budgets. So I think I think he had some cloud. Yeah You don't like his action. No, no, what I'm saying is I like him. I don't think he's underappreciated though I think he's I used to be Sure, maybe it's gone the other way now, but I like I feel like he's I'm trying to think of other equally appreciating it at an equal to his Worth, I don't know he's like a meme now though. You're like, oh, it's like Keanu Reeves, bro And people like, dude, he's so cool and nice point break. I mean I actually never saw it, but what I did he God, oh I did take a red pill and a blue pill before I got here though See the major major before they've got a new interactive website out For it where you can you you have to take a pill to get in later. You take red pill or a blue pill, okay And I would you know Okay How was that a a coin you had to buy on the video game? It was a coin It was a coin the uh, I'm excited dude. Yeah, I think so anyway. It's coming out. I'm excited fourth quarter I'm hope is good. I mean, you know, like I hope it's not like too formulaic, but like a good story like Supposedly he died last one as I recall like sure like I don't know how they're Bringing it back. They don't either, but they wanted their bank account and said we're gonna figure this out. Yes Right now. I actually met you know, Ramon. He came back. It came into town. Yeah. I actually I got to talk to him for a second And uh, he said something I thought was pretty interesting. He said um How in the fuck did you get in my hotel room? Please Ryan Don't I'm looking Do not enter hotel rooms if you're not invited into look the only way that I'm gonna keep you as my sponsors You got to take me to Toys or Us when it opens in the in the in the in the matrix In the matrix This this is getting met really meta We're gonna have a a matrix where You have a macy's in a toy store in it. What does it mean? They're collecting you that's what it's gonna be that all that data in the matrix What that is is the data they're mining from us That's actually what those little numbers falling are the radcast is really just start of the matrix You're in the matrix right now. I am come into the studio Damn dude. I never thought about it. I'm plugged. Oh shit dude Well, I'm gonna go finish tapping out that keg but it's been great talking to you But I am excited about some of our content coming out. So uh sure You want to talk about some of the uh a little some of the parody stuff we've been doing lately Well, we were gonna shoot the fourth installment of the matrix here, but then Come and find out the bastards Yeah, we're just shooting some social media content. Yeah for radical. Yeah And it's parodying the marketing and advertising industry And I think uh, I think that's a direction we'll continue to go here Yeah, yeah, I like it. I'll okay. I got to do that. I do. I like it I didn't know if you wanted me to freestyle and I was sweating profusely That's why we're black because if you're watching the video Joey did start dancing a little bit So you're listening to the audio you need to go back and watch the video Because he wasn't sure. I was bob my head a little bit there guys Yeah, exactly. I got the moves like jacker. That's what the kids say, right? Did um Yeah, no That was that was the sound of me leaving Oh, that's the sound of you leaving my tracker that I parked Tell the valet guy to give me my keys this time Uh, yes to no, no, yeah, we're working on some short bits on the What several pages it'll be on there you'll see him Yes, I they they're really funny, you know behind the scenes what what you think agencies and marketing companies are up to versus You know close to reality Sure when we have a bit about what what would happen if you worked with Certain very radical clients and sure And they're gonna be very funny. They'll be out on our channels soon and To fall along follow radical underscore results on Instagram and of course radical company on Facebook and We're gonna be fun when you're gonna get your own uh sling TV channel. Oh, it's coming the rack yet. Sure. It's coming media empire We're building Media empire the media empire. Okay. I said media empire. I was like media. That is you know what? I don't know what that means oh, it's uh within a secret lab. We're building the media empire. Okay I also backped on thought we said medium empire which I like I like that concept of like yeah We're gonna run the world at a reasonable level how to I like you're like the tj maximum monopolies. All right, you're right you're right below of your monopoly but not a monopoly Joey enjoyed it. Hey, Ryan. I wish I could say the same, but you're fired from me my sponsor and get a new keg All right, we will refig refill the keg And so if you're ever in the greenville area, stop by our co-works base camaraderie or a ziratical free beer on tap So now we should have thousands of people coming in to get a free beer world swap private trail downtown beautiful Downtown greenville. You know, tell me where you live too. Yeah, I'm gonna give you address actually 123 Joey Thompson Boulevard Right near the freeway the old junkyard Haha, it's a junkyard under junkyard under the freeway overpass Cool, man, we're gonna make you up with Joey, Joey and Sean you can find us at Joey, Joe and Sean That's it you can talk tiktok youtube pinterest tender grinder Yelp This is a cry for help actually. Yes. Hey, I'm still your sponsor until we leave this room and step five is it You have a problem You can say my sponsor sponsor Bonsard cool. Well today was sponsored by radical. Yeah The best digital addicts in the country find us at radical.com Find the radcast at the radcast.com and I'm at Ryan offer it on all channels I'm only on tiktok and instagram. I'm not on grinder honey So you know where to find us. We'll see you next time You