The Secret To Lachlan Patterson’s Hilarious Success: It’s All About Delivery
Welcome back to another episode of The Radcast! In this riveting edition, Ryan is joined by the incredibly talented and insightful comedian, Lachlan Patterson, the Last Comic Standing's Top 3 finalist. Together, they dive deep into the often dynamic world of fame and criticism, exploring Lachlan's unique perspectives on navigating the highs and lows of the entertainment industry. Tune in as Lachlan shares the remarkable journey of his comedic evolution over the past decade, shedding light on the challenges he faced in discovering his authentic voice and style. The conversation takes an intriguing turn towards the art of comedic timing, where Lachlan unveils his preference for allowing humor to unfold naturally.
Join them as they dissect the impact of social media on comedy, reflect on the clash between tradition and evolving comedic norms, and delve into the delicate balance between humor and potential offense. With laughter and wisdom in abundance, this episode is a must-listen for anyone fascinated by the art and business of comedy. Get ready to embark on a journey through the fascinating world of Lachlan Patterson. Listen and learn!
- Ryan and Lachlan engage in a conversation about the difficulties associated with fame and criticism. Lachlan provides perspectives on effectively managing criticism, particularly within the entertainment industry. (01:10)
- Lachlan recounts his comedic journey. He reflects on the transformation of his comedic persona over a decade, highlighting the challenges he faced in discovering his unique voice and style in comedy. (03:10)
- They discuss the art of comedic timing, with Lachlan expressing a preference for allowing the audience to discover humor naturally. Ryan explores Lachlan's unique style characterized by subtlety, emphasizing elements of self-deprecation and relatability in his comedy. Lachlan shares insights into his natural approach. (08:50)
- Lachlan shares his unconventional path to comedy. The challenges arose from his father's post-war mindset, viewing stand-up comedy as irresponsible and conflicting with job security. Lachlan reflects on the clash between tradition and evolving comedy. (13:02)
- Lachlan reflects on the evolution of comedy, and discusses the impact of social media on the business of comedy, emphasizing both its advantages and drawbacks. Despite the benefits of a digital presence, he underscores the enduring importance of in-person connections. The discussion wraps up by touching on the ongoing need for comedy to adapt in response to societal changes. (23:05)
- Lachlan discusses his distinctive comedy style, and explores the connection between social media engagement and live show attendance. The conversation then delves into marketing on social media, focusing on calls to action, capturing emails, and the power of building a dedicated VIP list. (34:35)
- Lachlan injects humor into the sensitive topic of fentanyl warnings, discussing the challenges of navigating such subjects in comedy. The hosts explore the delicate balance between humor and potential offense, drawing parallels with scenes from movies like "Walk Hard." (37:57)
- Ryan and Lachlan explore his aspirations, including performing in theaters and selling out shows. Lachlan reflects on his experience on Last Comic Standing, underscoring the impact it has had on his journey and expressing a desire for sustained success. Ryan encourages Lachlan to leverage past achievements. (46:35)
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you're listening to the ride cast a top 25 worldwide business podcast if it's radical we cover it here's your host Ryan Alfred hey guys what's up this is Ryan off of your host it's the rad cast and man we say if it's radical we cover it and I just glad I get to name my number these days you know I'm going on the Graham scrolling through I don't ever know what's gonna hit my feed I got you know babies over here I got this over there people trying to ask me for money over here and then this funny as hell comedian hits my radar damn Lockland Patterson what's up Lockland hey buddy just just hanging out man thanks for having me on your show hey man you know I get to name my number now I get to go who do I want and hopefully that look they got a respond it's a reciprocation which luckily you did your hilarious man you just I am a connoisseur of comedy you know and you're funny man really funny thanks thanks dude I just I want to have you on the show if nothing else to go Lockland Patterson is fucking talented and he needs to know that Ryan Alfred thinks that it may mean nothing but you know I saw I checked that box right here I'm honored thank you I had always feels good I don't ever get tired of that thank you skills your craft like that's what you do for a living and then I think people maybe take don't quite realize like entertainers like this is the job like they're doing it but like it's a profession it's a skill like they enjoy the obviously for like cheers but knowing that other people appreciate what you do and that see the value of that in the world we live in it's so serious and so God we need more Lockland Patterson to the world thanks man you know I it's funny it sucks that it I need like like like I could have a a YouTube video and then under the comments it has all these comments that are like keep going thank you you're so funny and then one guy's like this guy looks like Nickelback and then and I'm just miserable I'm like let it melted to the floor first of all there's Nickelback's not a guy either no so they didn't even take the time but what I try to do is I you know I'm I'm probably of similar ages where I just try to keep keep a level head about everything don't get too excited by all the excitement and also don't get too down about the Nickelback comments well one wise mentor told me you haven't officially made it until someone cares enough to criticize you so like it like literally it's easy to criticize but at the same time most people just it's kind of if they're not stopping it all that time Dick I had kind of like they need to put you down then then you've officially know that you're doing something right so it probably isn't always come across that way because we're all human beings and we're like oh damn see right I thought I was everyone else said it was good this guy says bad maybe it's really bad well listen to him Lockland you're funny and I had I've shown you now to like 20 people and every one of them was like yeah like dying so it's thanks man yeah man I mean it's it's good shit I mean you're what Canadian I mean I know I'm jumping right in I'm like giving you all these accolades but I know everybody's gonna be able to find you and read and listen and go damn we heard Lockland on the radcast and he is funny as shit so I will take pride in anyone that comes through that channel but let's let's set the table for everybody Lockland and tell a little bit about your story and let's talk a little bit about the business of comedy yeah let's do it let's set the table how should I set it yeah works yeah what made you so funny I think I just was like I was an awkward kid for sure I didn't you know I yeah I had trouble making friends and comedy seemed to be the way I fit in I would I would I was a Joker I was always trying to make people laugh and I wasn't good at it obviously to start so it would often get me in trouble you know the the dig on comedians is often that they don't take things seriously which is great when it's that time but you know just like a kid who just isn't funny it becomes annoying so I was annoying for a long long time and then because because people didn't get it is it because you were kind of dry and it was like it went over their head or something I don't think I even got it like for the first they say they say about comedy is you don't really find your persona or whatever it is for the first 10 years and I agree with that there was just me just like writing all these things that I thought was funny but they just they just weren't it just I didn't understand what I wanted now after 10 years I I think of a joke and I can imagine how it would go and it's a it's a lot clearer to me even still today I I mean I'm trying to work on a bit of this bit about the half sandwich and soup menu item and how ridiculous it is to me and just like like just the idea of a half sandwich it's like the only thing on the menu that's half of something and that that some chef was like what do you think about a half sandwich and owners like what that's what tell me more well what I do is I make a sandwich and then I cut it in half and I get rid of half of the sandwich and we just still have the sandwich and so I can't quite make it funny but it's crazy to me it's so funny to me that this is an item and I don't know I'm trying to come up with a conspiracy theories on why they do it my lady thinks it's because they want you to buy the full sandwich so because the other thing about the half sandwiches see now here we go I'm getting it not like it the half half half sandwiches usually only like a couple of bucks cheaper than the full sandwich so it's not even like a deal it's not like half price so it's like you wouldn't do half a steak usually right or chicken cordon blue that's not flying right right right I would think that you that you ate half of it before you gave it to them that's the other conspiracy is where's the other half of my sandwich like tell me how this happened the guy started eating half of everything just like dishwasher they keep the staff fed with the other half of your life yeah dude yeah like I'll be in your writers room and like you had it right there dude that's exactly what I was thinking is some I don't want to order this until you tell me where the fuck the other half of my sandwiches exactly I it has nothing to do with this joke but I always think back to Chris Farley and doing an SNL skit where they did the sir we secretly replaced your coffee with a taste your choice and because usually they do that there's an old commercial where they do that they go wow I didn't know you know but he gets mad like throws the table white you stupid bitch yeah what did you do with that oh my god yeah it's so much better at it than me oh whatever has to rest in peace Chris Farley different huh man yeah the energy that was so my whole career you know I was a young handsome comedian which was unusual and so I had agents throw me into I even had I had a my agent was a modeling agency and they would submit me for stuff commercials I was doing auditions for commercials and I never booked anything 400 times minimum I walked into a audition you know god already you know read the part get all dressed up in the part I would go drive to through Hollywood and park and go in and sit and wait 400 or more times and you know if any direction was given to me it was more energy let's try that again more energy and that was just it wasn't I wasn't able to do that I was never able to do that but you are that is part of what makes your comedy good I think is kind of the understated it's like you don't know what's coming because you're so understated like some people are so heavy handed in the delivery it's like right I feel the sledgehammer coming before you even swing it it would you it's like everything's right here and so and then it's like and then it's I think it make for me it makes it that much more funny because then I think that's what makes it to live it hard for me is because it's like you don't ever change like the monitor like you know but you're like but then you're dying laugh it because the the subject matters hilarious thank you I want I want the audience to enjoy trying to sniff out where the joke is I don't want to a lot of comedies also will use their hands to deliver or their head they'll not I watch Chris rocks entire last comedy special on Netflix and I don't know if you'd next time you watch it if anyone watches him most when he tells the joke he goes like this every punchline is not it is coming I don't even think he knows he's doing it but I try to just tell the joke and let the audience figure out if they like it or not on their own yeah and I think a lot of people are smart like it and but I see that and there's something about you this like I don't know self-deprecation is right I don't know if that's part of it but sort of like I'm up here to tell you these things and I'm not gonna make it funny to you it's either gonna be funny or not I'm just gonna say it and like but it is funny it's like that's that's part of what it makes it the whole stick whether it's a stick or it's having you sitting here talking with me people and people to listen to this they didn't go watch your stuff you are kind of that guy so it's like it's not even an act okay no I don't even think I'm sure you turn it on like on that you're you're a entertainer like I mean others like buttons you push and do all that but like it feels natural I I see the only way I know how I do turn it up I turn it up for interviews stand up and when I have guests over but it's it's just yeah I I tried I got I burned all the footage but when I first started I tried every different style of comedy I tried to mimic all of my heroes in comedy and and just did not did feel right and this just this feels this is how I'm gonna do it thank you I this is the only way I feel comfortable telling jokes I think the thing that I do that makes it funnier is I the language I use oh yeah I definitely try to use language that people can relate to for sure yeah I know and I read about your background and stuff like the the journey into the business you were you were set up and groomed for a lot of different things comedy not being one of them yeah I love yeah talk a little bit about that love my dad but and my dad I had a I had a dad I don't know if you're a dad of this variety but he he was a high school counselor he's a retired high school counselor and so you know for a living he he got kids jobs and got them in school and and figured out their careers and so at an early age my dad was figuring out my career path and he was also my my dad was my baseball coach for my baseball team he was my he was my if he wasn't the coach if he couldn't get the job as coach he would stand right next to the coach and eventually become the assistant coach by just virtue of being there every day next to him and my dad had the keys to the field the park and to the to the to the big shed in every park usually it has a shed with all the baseball equipment oh yeah yeah so my dad had all the batting this the pitching machine and all the gear so every weekend my dad would take me to play baseball at the park and teach me soccer and and across and hockey and you know I was I was groomed for hockey I played I remember I I never got my kids my friends were all playing hockey and I wanted to play hockey and my dad goes okay let's play hockey and he immediately put me in training camps and I was in training camp for so long that when I finally actually got into hockey the first time I ever played a hockey game I didn't know it was going on who are these guys who are these adults in black and white striped shirts getting in my way while I'm trying to do my circles and you know like it was so I was just groomed a lot by my father he raised me very closely and so and then I remember one day I said I want to do comedy and he just didn't want to hear it you know he didn't even hear he just changed the subject he didn't even acknowledge that I said it and this went on for years because he you know he had put in all this work on me you know my dad picked all my college courses right I brought home my calendar for college and he and I woke up next morning he had filled it all out he's like here you go go take this to your school and and enjoy college do you think it was because in a way that was his career what he was good at and he was directing kids so he wanted to make sure he did that for his son or was it like the product of him not maybe getting or doing what he wanted to do not having that in his life or was it just purely like his way I think it's a bit of both I think my dad's father was for a wartime kid my dad my dad was a wartime kid but he was born during the war I guess war war two but that was a time after World War Two where people were you know they were having to ration everything and be very careful and save and be cautious and so my dad's a very cautious guy and standard comedy is most it's irresponsible it's wild it's it's especially you know I think it was 1993 or something when I decided I wanted to do comedy so it wasn't really I wasn't a lot of now that anyone could be a comedian but back then it was just just wasn't a good career choice so definitely because that's he's like I'm an expert this is what I do for a living so that's definitely part of it but I think also because he wanted me to have job security he wanted me to have be safe yeah he loved me he loved me very much and he wanted what's best for me but I just saw it as being close-minded and so I ignored him and ran away ran away to Los Angeles I'm sure that upset the apple card a little bit or was it like did he love you through it or is it like it was it like a little bit of disowning yeah there was love but there was it was all you know I wasn't doing well that didn't help you know yeah so you didn't really hey look what I did yeah no it was it was a lot of it was it was a lot of just not talking to him because I I didn't have anything to report and he would always you know remind me that if I ever want to come back I you know as a guy in the plumbers union and you know you can get started right away or we can go we can get you back in school and I got you I got you covered son just come up here and I'll take care of you I appreciate you're old dad but I'm kind of I'm you know and I can't speak for your you know but I'm glad you're a comedian you know we need more look any more comedy you know like not everybody can deliver it so I'm glad you didn't go back to plumbing plumbing bro I'm six five yeah be two that's a that's a first that's first time the exact even can you imagine can you imagine being a plumber excuse me I'm a sneeze can you imagine being a plumber at our size no no even inside I cover my nose yes bless you um yeah I'm too big for plumbing um so thank you yeah I uh uh man I just couldn't I knew that if I went back I just would be miserable you know so kept going get little feedback I will every once in a while uh just you know I feel like that's in life too if you keep going every once in a while when you think it's over and you're just gonna quit you know a comedian would say you're funny and sometimes it was comedian of of notoriety and that was just like you know like I remember Bob Sagitt was at an open mic when I first started and he said that's a really funny joke you did about that and I said thank you I was so honored or flattered and he goes I'm where he goes if you just you could just add like and then like uh and then I fucked her in the ass at the end of it I think that would uh I was like did it have anything the joke was it just totally like what he was saying like if you had that anything it becomes funny it was it's just Bob Sagitt's take on it and I don't know if anyone's ever seen Bob before it rests in peace Bob uh he was a very filthy comedian and so he gave his version of that joke to me as a gift and I thought that was so nice and I but I had no intention of saying it or using it he was the irony of him being so filthy is you know doing America's funny some videos which the you know like the most I don't know neutered show of all time as far as like family friendly and everything else and yeah yeah I think it's full house yeah full house oh yeah everything on TV was so family oriented and then his stand up is filthy yes yeah I don't know if you in today's age if you could get away with those two sides everybody's so damn woken like if you were that on if you were that on social media or it stand up you couldn't possibly have you know little house on the prairie or what a you know like any wholesome TV show yeah comedy is that once business that um it it doesn't withstand the test of time like music it it constantly has to adapt to society yeah right that's right we can't so like when you watch old comedy like I have I have I have old comedy in my garage so whenever I'm working in the garage I play like kinesan and stuff yeah and this stuff yeah the stuff he says you not saying no but that makes it even funnier to me it's like oh my god like we said this we like people are laughing so it's not just that he said it but everyone agreed yes and thinking like the old TV shows like blazing saddles and like like even samford and son go watch samford and son and like you know like right I made television yeah that's right the show type thing and watching uh I don't know old Chevy chase movies and yeah he's like one of my oh yeah and old Chevy chase old Richard prior yeah old Richard prior oh god so so many movies would not get made today and most of them are comedy yeah that's right um yeah I mean yeah what's it been like I try coming through yeah go ahead to the media world I mean you you your career is kind of blossomed you know in this world of it was all stand I mean I 93 94 like late in 2000s I mean you've you've kind of covered the gamut here of like the channels for distribution of comedy like what's that evolution bid like for you well I think it started with my space uh that that was probably my first experience in social media and that was dang cuck dang cuck blew up my space right haven't tia tequila um they showed it as not a social space but as a marketing platform uh to comedians so we all started as young comedians we all started building our my space profile to showcase that says comedians and not as just regular everyday people um I've now I now have a Facebook Instagram Twitter YouTube a website tiktok tiktok cameo um I look at my phone and I'll see you out here um Twitter I said I say Twitter I got hey I got like 12 platforms like everybody right try to keep up ways I got ways do you follow me on ways no I'd be I'd be scary if you follow me on ways yeah I'd say leave me alone you're in the car with me I'm right behind you yeah there's no big fan and I'm right behind you there's a big dude on the side coming up on the right yes we're all big fans we leave me alone jesus um how's that changed your the business of comedy for you like I know it's a lot to keep up with but I mean is that right evolution or bad evolution from uh okay the only one the only one the way he went sees or hears locklands jokes is in person so there's huge onus on in person stuff versus yeah the digital medium yes it's I find it to be complete so far it's been completely separate so it's been great social media has been awesome in that uh man I I get so much wonderful warm feedback you know people touch their screen twice that's what I get from them or they send me a picture of a face with two tears out the side it's very nice I appreciate it but it doesn't at all replace the faces in the audience and meeting people in person like that's what I really love and and so I give a lot to social media to because I it's it's a very giving thing but I feel like the the the give and take is much more equal when I when I have a live show and yeah I get to see them laughing as opposed to a picture of a circle with two little drops of water like I just I'm gonna give you some rockets or something like something just different like let me go rockets do yeah at least use the moji I'm giving it to you I'm gonna like put that on every feed going forward so you're gonna know it's me you're you're gonna see my name and my blue check mark I had before I could buy it and you'll know with that a rocket emoji I also know there's people out there that just like everything that I do too and that is tough too because I'm I'm also doing R&D here on these things right I'm when I send these clips out I want to find out if they're working or not and if you just like everything got them killing myself with this comment but then I don't gauge whether or not it's I get it but you know which one's like more than others and that should tell you if you get true 100 likes on average and something you put out there gets 900 likes but then something else gets 150 that's kind of even if all 150 were positive emojis it it tells you that it landed a little flat you're right you're absolutely right or you just get it with myself a number when this ends you're gonna just start texting me I can I'll give you the real feedback I'll give you a we'll have like a scale of you know whatever that might want to take sure stars let's do the star system I'll take it yeah um I love the star system um so I dude I I went from at the beginning of this year I had eight thousand followers on Instagram for example and now it's at like 40 40 something thousand yep and and it's because I hired these guys I hired these kids who reached out to me and they're like let me do it for you and I said sure and so I send them the clips and they cut them and put and send them back to me and then I look at them and if I like them I post them and it's been a big help because it takes me to make a clip because I have the editing software but it was taking me um you know I would say I three hours for a clip of course I could go any further without mentioning the official skincare partner of the radcast look I'm all about routines I gotta have routines now I gotta schedule what I'm gonna do now I've got a men's care routine at night this is what I do I watch the face I put the face lotion on I put on the icon i serum this is the best ice serum I've ever used I actually have the dark circles gone from out of the eyes and then the good the serum from the gods as I like to say or just rejects and Wyoming but it's all natural and it works gives you that glow that you always want both morning and night and look I've you know I'm getting the point I'm in my mid 40s the fine lines are showing up and I need a routine I need like things that I can repeat and that's what this does the whole skincare system and you don't miss out on this body bar smells like a man hey I want to 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clip particular has been you know I've been telling this joke and I like the joke but I didn't realize on social media that it would garner like that much positive feedback yeah I don't know the algorithms or anything but you know I post a clip every day and I'm like I'm oh I like everything I posted it's coming for me so I'm trusting that I this this has my certified guaranteed I like it on it so when the when in one goes viral I'm like great what about all the other ones but this one clip is about I don't know if you've seen it's it's about how like I love shrimp anyway it started a argument online between people it's it's it's what's that called it's um it's definitely polarized people and they're arguing on my feet like over this debate and it's fun it's it's become fun for me to read these people I don't protect at all because I'm done my work is done you guys can do it enough you know what I call that you know it's the best kind of performing content that a lot of people shy away from and you may not have even intended it agitational content yeah okay that's secret sauce right there that's a freebie the others thank you are you calling at least tell me a joke it made me laugh then I'll give you anything you want you know you may be agitational free thank you but yeah agitational content agitational you know and it polarizing is definitely what it causes but on but it's like if you agitate you've usually break through and so yeah see I'm not I'm not agitating anybody with the half sandwich bit no like other than the guy who came up with it nobody is nobody is every once someone will be like I like the half sandwich and you know what they say to me Ryan they go you know sometimes I'm not that hungry and I'm like well don't fucking eat yeah don't why are you going to have a cup of tea yeah but no they have to have the sandwich I want a couplet loop not a bowl I got to have a cup and half a sandwich yeah give me a hot dog but take a bite out of it first yeah I don't want to eat the whole thing so just give it to me and that's a part of it be more visual joke you know like yeah but the uh but socials uh but have you seen a correlation with social media and crowds or people like coming to shows or anything like that or is it just totally separate that's a good question you're very smart man by the way I like when people say to me good question to me I no longer need to hear the answer like that I'm full but oh I'm glad you asked me to lock it I still need it I haven't but I just started adding my a show button at the end of the clips yeah and I'm hoping but no I haven't seen anything no correlation yet but oh no man like you need to call to action every video you should have a call to action you should add I mean hey this is marketing a business show so we'll get into one of two things you need to have a news a way to capture everybody's emails you need to turn followers into people the way you turn them into people as you get their email or the phone number and you phone numbers are still kind of weird you know even if there's texting now I get it's a little weird you want people going oh they won't my phone number but if they're email address captured like it it's your web address so that then at every every show you have you send out a very simple email telling them where the show is and where it is and you never know yeah some might be in Timbuk 2 Arizona and some might be in Virginia and your shows in Minnesota but you never know when they're traveling or if they know people there so you should always you're called to action on every video should be I've got a live special going on YouTube it's $10 or if you're selling something or you should at least go sign up for you know if you're enjoy this I'd love to put you on my list for VIP jokes and experiences okay see the list the Lockland VIP list secret list yeah secrets where I tell you my secret I got all the tricks man whoa whoa whoa whoa we'll take this offline the uh thanks man yeah but you do yeah you can start tying it to it and I now you got the audience you've been 44,000 you're starting to get you know scale so you can activate that and I think you I don't know what you're following is on TikTok you got it you should start that's just start popping for you if you're doing the right content I haven't looked at your stuff over there I just you're always on my feed on Instagram I can do better on TikTok the TikTok's angrier at me like they'll I find that the they'll they're more critical the critical critical they're more critical of like like like censoring your jokes I just caught I think I did a post posted something about like how fentanyl I have that I'll talk about that on the I told the Cameron and Sawyer I was like literally told I told your joke you know if I can tell your joke and like they're chuckling a little bit you know it's a good joke because they didn't even have to hear you hear it say it but like it's friggin hilarious because it's so true right so I get more audience let's I'm not making it up you don't have to get into character here but but I'm going to you to to share the bit a little bit every time I hear a warning about fentanyl uh and the dangers it always it sounds like they want me to try fentanyl it'll guide come on the news and we like can't stop fentanyl it's so dangerous it's 50 times more powerful than heroin and it's cheaper than crack cocaine and you can buy it anywhere now in america so don't do it I'm like that sounds like parky glon salesman don't do it it's the most popular drug on the streets and you taste just like chocolate don't do it pairs well with a shardonnay so apparently there is a scene and I had to even go watch it there's three different comments from tiktok where this guy's stealing from a movie with John C. Riley where it's kind of like a takeoff oh walkhard walkhard is at it so and there's a scene in walkhard which is very funny kin meadows is smoking weed and uh to see where at least character wants some and he's like don't you don't want this and he's like why is it will it kill me and he goes no it's it won't kill you and then he's like was is it addictive and he's like no it won't make you like you know what I mean like it was it's very it's parallels this bit sure and and um they thought you know when you do when you do stuff like that they don't realize that first of all you know they're totally different this is and also it's not like I'm making this bit up watch a new slip on fat money is exactly what the news people say yeah I'm only taking it from the like they'll interview a police officer's like I can't we can't seem to stop fentanyl it it it is the most popular drug on the streets somehow and we can't stop it and people don't understand that it's 50 times well maybe stop bragging about it like maybe maybe you guys are the problem why like maybe they need some you know like the center for drug what is it the drug American drug anti drug foundation whoever makes the ad counsel commercials yeah maybe one of the maybe one of the team that comes up with these warnings should actually be an addict yeah you know maybe you should run it by some addicts first and see if it's working exactly see if it's turning you off or turning you on yeah it's a hundred times more powerful powerful than what's it called it's the one you get in the hospital they always no one in the hospital they go it's a hundred times more morphine it's 100 times more powerful than morphine yeah if I'm an addict that sounds great yeah exactly so they uh and the only people that are always sensitive probably and I get it but at the same time a lot of people are being impacted by certain negative things and it's like and so that you can always I'm sure as a comedian and not just that joke but any joke it's like if someone wants to be offended or wants to take it to the you know the other side of any subject matter that you're talking about that could have had a negative you know like that's probably never ending I'm sure and TikTok too is like a it's just like this crazy chick you know there's this side chick I got my Instagram girl she's supportive and she's consistent and then I go on TikTok and it's like right away I don't even follow anyone and I got tits in my face and and it's loud and it's just crazy and so I don't put as much effort into that one for sure oh it's definitely a rabbit hole of all sorts of things it's so like what what happened where where are you I you getting the vortex you do I have few drinks I'm on my couch 20 more I'm in my bedroom I'm starting more it's the next day yeah I'm vortex if you get it if you real I don't I when I first was on there that what happened I'd be like wait I'd look at my clock and it's like we're that 40 minutes ago and now I just don't really get on there as much anymore because I don't have 40 I don't want to lose 40 minutes to my life and it's gotten kind of random like you said but but a lot of you were all there TikTok also Instagram when you open it the volume's off TikTok when you open it the volume's cranked yeah right I can't open the door and have someone just talking to me right away right I need I need a minute to just yeah let me just let me see the video with the volume off first yeah you need the doctor to show you the finger then put the glove yeah and then put the Vaseline you need to you need a little like warm up before they use is that fist by the way the finger we still checking cancer with fingers can we get a computer we find some technology with the prostate exam what's uh what's one of your like favorite shows I mean like I know you got the special and you know certainly talk about that but like maybe what your best or most memorable live performance oh yeah the perfect set you know I had one at a place called whiskey bar I think it was called a whiskey bar it was just it was just a set but Pat Naswell was he went on before me and I mean it was like Bill Burr and Tiffany Haddish and Pat Naswell so it was exciting and the crowd was incredible and I remember after my set like it's like online too where I just I post what I like and I don't know what's gonna happen so I just did my set like normal and Pat Naswell came up and he grabbed he corners me and everyone standing around wondering wanting to hear what he's saying but only I got to hear it and he said I um who are you and how have I never heard of you and he went and broke down one of my jokes and said this is what's so wonderful about that joke and he just loved me for that minute and it was just a really and I grew up watching Pat Naswell um I remember being a young comedian and and having this the DVD of comedians of comedy and and watching him and Sarah Silverman Bryant-Passain Zach Galfanakis I just loved him and to to have that love given back to me and just not saying a word to just keeping my mouth shut and just listening it that to me was a great experience and I had a great set too so I felt I didn't feel like it was uh it wasn't real I mean I don't have to tell you this I mean like as your quasi unofficial non agent um I'm gonna tell you like you're drawing that at any time you feel like yeah do I belong in my head in the right path I got this troll telling me that he thinks this isn't funny I mean you have one of your you know icons like that sat down and like broke down your joke like you should draw on that and they know like you know you belong thanks man yeah um I don't know do you have a voice in your head that that you you go to at times or a few yeah two or three what what kind of voices it is it like a two or three right me two no I mean it's you know I have the the I'm not an emotional person but I have the little one that's like right you know that tone it down you need to understand how this is impacting people you need to and then I have to go like right you know you pussy you go go go you know like I mean you know it's always driving me like you got one life to live damn it what are you doing and it's you know he's probably not that much of a drill sergeant but it's just you know the drill sergeant the voice is a man's it says it's maybe I don't know if it's all men's but it's definitely a straight man's inner voice that we I use yeah I like that voice I a lot of people would say that's okay good yeah a lot of people would say it's an unhealthy voice I know and it's not the ego voice that I think that'd be the third one that it's more that I feel like that's the healthy one that's like keeping me on the straight narrow and like keeping me good father good dad good business person like go go go you've got every opportunity don't let anything go and it's more I'm but then there's the ego voice of like for the wrong reasons are like getting caught up in the oh you know this is what Johnny would think about that and you know that you really should you know if you really want to look the best or do the best or how you know like there's that ego voice that I try to like I've gotten better that's that comes a wisdom at time like when I was 25 that voice like dominated you know not boy I've pushed that voice way back you know but it happens life pushed that voice way back that too you know I have that voice it goes it used to go this is the big this is it buddy this is the big moment this is everything this is gonna you're going to be get ready you're gonna be catapulted to start them right here this is everything is about to happen for you and now it's it's the it's the right voice it's the chill this isn't about that this is just about having fun it's not a state present yeah everything's flattering you know I mean the journey man I that's the thing you know the more people I talk to at all different levels in all different fields and like the highs of the highs and lows and lows like the journey like as soon as you get there you're not happy anyway so you need to keep the journey going you know right you look on everybody's got to eat and you want to hey if it was a car nice car whatever your thing is like something you know like we all want like but you know as soon as everybody loves you then somebody it just means that there's gonna be that many more you know negative Johnny voices too you know like so there's always going to be something but it just you gotta enjoy the journey is kind of that I think that what I hear from more people and like appreciate every moment and some of this stuff sounds cliche and like bullshit but like but there's truth to it you know like if you get you if you what fun is it if you if you're just landing somewhere and never going anywhere else like you got to you know enjoy every step of the journey the journey yeah I've been saying it's all practice a lot everything's just practice and so I I um when I fail I can say it's practice and when I succeed I gotta remind myself it's still just practice what's I mean what's making it now for you like you're obviously have crossed some roads you know like you're doing some specials you're out there doing they got 50,000 followers roughly on Instagram you're getting popularity some things but like what are the goals for you and what does really getting over mean to Lockland like what what is that like going on a late night show like I got what is good you know yeah it would make you happy I mean it's funny like I force that you brought up the late show and in the late late shows and the tonight shows I I pounded on those doors and they just never opened for me for the most part um so I've had to kind of and that's part of finding my voice too um but for me uh so you know it'd be nice to perform uh to to have sold out shows to me that would be great that would be uh incredible to because I've been performing a lot and I go to these clubs and they take a risk on me because they think I'm funny and they have to sit there in the back and cut three waitresses on the and and give me some stupid excuse like oh it's tax time so people aren't really going out this time of year or something you know it's St. Paddy's day next week so people are you know they'll get they'll just bullshit for me but it'd be not you to me making it would be every every seat in the house is full you know you well you didn't we're gonna teach you how to do that the uh and it's not it's not because you you got the comedy already and now it's like but you got to bring them with you that's where the social and everything else like you got to turn those followers into craving fans and like getting them in the circle and keeping giving you know you got to have like the lot of the nights you know like whatever it is like but you have to nurture it and then they'll fill it up for you and then they because the reality is a lot of those places don't have the marketing arm like they'll throw your one video that may or they may or may not have been thoughtful about which one they grabbed on their Instagram feed locklin patterns and we'll be here this weekend we're so excited they're they're marketing sucks and then you know you're staying in there and like you're like well why didn't they bring to me that why you know am I not funny or whatever nobody want to come and you like they're giving the excuses but when you can start commanding and bringing your own tribe and it's not you know it doesn't mean that you're gonna bring them alone to every show like you can fill out five thousand seats wherever anytime but hell if you had if you could if you could count on 20 percent of them you know are gonna show up or be there or tell people and work for you with you that's when you get powerful okay well I you nailed it with regards to the fact that they're marketing it's often the issue yeah and I rely so heavily on their marketing and I would love to not yeah I love that to not even be important just send people my marketing for me well exactly but you can get there I mean so selling out shows what's like is there like a theaters or like a man the holy grill I mean theaters would be incredible I I get the joy and I'm the I'm so grateful that I get to open every once in a while for some of my favorites I just got to open for Daniel Tosh down by you in Florida and Atlanta and in Tennessee and theaters he's performed in these massive theaters and I'm gonna get to open for Nate or but Margotty up in Pennsylvania next month but so yeah I want I want bigger audiences I'd love theaters I'm trying to take a step by step you got I got to fill the bars that I'm in right now first yeah where I start doing that but that's always I mean I've had the goal of theaters for 10 years I've been writing that in my journal and so I mean I got with I was in the last comic standing a while back and I made it to the top five finalists so we toured across the country doing theaters the top five finalists and so we did like 60 theaters and I just was hooked ever since then I I love I love how they look I love how they smell I just love walking out on a massive stage and seeing that empty room and being like it's just so hard it feels it feels so good when they're all sad and then you know have you uh do you why don't that seems like a pretty big accomplishment like why is there a reason that you step like edit that's not in your bio like you don't have that like anywhere is it purposeful that you don't like attach to that at all last kind of standing yeah yeah I think it's in my bio I mean that's the other thing uh what what's what do I want well I'd like a bigger credit than that that's my biggest credit yeah so I'm searching for something bigger than that but right now that is the biggest thing that I've done and it was you know it's coming up on probably nine years ago you were top five in that how many people like was the potential you know number well they start they start they start with a thousand or they said thousands when I arrived okay so I was a I was walking dogs I was just like I had stopped doing the road because I couldn't I couldn't it wasn't paying enough yeah um and I was making money dog walking and just doing shows in LA and being home and I was excited to be home and doing local shows and so I stopped doing and then they asked me to come audition for last time standing and I told you my audition and track record I didn't want to do it so I ignored it and then my agent called and said you're gonna go to this audition I said nah and he goes can I ask you this and I said sure and he goes what are you doing what else are you doing and I said that's a good point I'll go so I went and I was in a room they put me in a room with a hundred comedians in a giant room and they just had cameras all over the room and they just watched us and filmed it and it was uh uh it did felt horrible like I look around there's so many comedians and all seemed very confident that they were going to win this show and I didn't I didn't feel that way I felt like my comedy career was you know not that good like I said I had submitted to all the late shows and no one got back to me and so I had all these I had put it all this effort into this business and given up on it and now it was dragging me back in with all these young confident comedians and and I went in the audition and it was it was so hard it was three it was three people or four people in the audience it was the producers producers and they were in their books just looking like this and each comedian would go one of I went up there and do their bits and it was like every pardon me every fucking show I had been doing in LA so it was easy yeah it was like oh I'm just doing a shitty show okay well that's what I do anyway so I was in my I was in my element it was very comfortable yeah so it was like perfect if they're drinking glasses and like you know a blender a blender and you know an obnoxious girl or guy talking louder than they should be you'd been really at home yeah and so they asked me to come back and they just kept every week they just kept asking me to come back and that went on for I mean the budget on that thing was incredible I met I mean they had every week they had a celebrity yes so I met I got I got to be mentored by man I got to be mentored by Howie Mendel Jeff Ross JB smooth was the host I loved JB smooth chick from Kerb your enthusiasm and I got to forget my name unfortunately you like Larry David like that kind of stuff yeah that's my kind of humor that he writes like me yeah yeah yeah I have the same I have various many of the same uh extra complaints about society as he does for sure most of them don't get outside the house thankfully yeah he he has an opportunity to the vehicle to share these things safely but a lot of my opinions about things have to stay behind these four walls yeah well yeah maybe that's a problem yeah yeah yeah yeah agitational content thank you I definitely have some written so I don't know you can text them to me I'll tell y'all be honest with y'all be like okay not quite that agitational whoa or yes I can I'll send you clips before I post them yeah sure thank you it's um I put still lap you know top five of last comic standing I mean top top three I got to see the yeah they did have fine the final episode they just picked one of three okay so I've made it to last episode that's how I put it did I know that I imagine being a professional you know the like okay that's all the footnote I mean it's still big fucking deal though you know it was awesome I people were shouting at me as walking down the street and in the airport I remember having our issue with my bank and I called and the guy goes is this locklin Patterson from last comic standing and I'm like yeah he goes don't worry I'll take care of it I probably got that celebrity treatment yeah it was awesome I want that I want that again I want to fact because it faded right because it wasn't my audience it was NBC last comic standing's audience and so I understand that with time there you know next season's coming they have a new season a fresh new set of comedians that audience needs to move on because they're really their fans of the show yeah I've been arguing with you though it's called borrowed it's all scared leverage there's uh you carry that with you it never goes away and any time that that shows on you should be maximizing and it and you might go oh I'm just I'm using old accolade to what no it's like it doesn't go away you know do you think that uh do you think Michael Jackson with you know like he would throw away one of his hits because it was 30 years later you know like or anybody or let's say vanilla ice do you think he's a half-era person that he had that one hit you know like hey so it never diminishes the the impact or what it took for that to happen no matter how much time passes but you can either choose to leverage it or not and so right yeah you're in leverage two is gratitude and I think they go hand in hand so yeah it uh it's on my bio you know it's the number one thing still yeah so I it's on there I loved dude I met I met so many great people I feel like we could talk for hours man I think we've uh we have I know we've talked for exactly an hour I think I've got you over the time limit and uh kid what's um tell tell everybody it's listening we'll have all this in the show notes you know yeah all the places that can keep it with you your website and all those things sure yeah lock on Patterson.com for all my show dates where are you gonna be people I post a video come to Texas I'll be like dude I was just in Texas last week um come to yeah people say come to Vancouver I doesn't make it for a month doing shows come to South Carolina please I would love to I would love to you have uh what's this what's the comedy club there I'm gonna actually the comedy zone is green bill the comedy zone green bill I perform there and I want to come back so I am gonna do that I'm gonna make that effort today I've done that for people when they say I've had so show here I got this you know social house we'll have a special show and we've had comedians here we'll have a one night only Lockham Patterson we'll fill this mug out I'd love that I would love that I will come for that if you want to do that or or I'll reach out to the comedy zone I'll get your number and we let's talk yeah we'll talk about all that I really appreciate your brother I know uh people are gonna go follow you and go take it out they're gonna make the world a better place because they're gonna be smiling thanks man thank you for all your positive feedback and and help them lift me up for because I gotta go carry a bunch of shit around the house right now there you go hey guys you don't want to find us the radcast.com search for 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