Episode 25 - Somatic Healing & Kinesiology w/ Mana Temple

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Welcome back to Spirit Outspoken.

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Today we're honored to have Chelsea Power, an incredible Australian-based healer and practitioner of kinesiology and somatic therapy.

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Chelsea believes that the body remembers long after the mind, forget.

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And her work is deeply rooted in listening to the body's wisdom to unlock true healing.

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With a trauma-informed and compassionate approach, Chelsea helps clients move beyond symptoms to uncover the root cause of their emotional and energetic blocks.

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Her sessions are rich, engaging and deeply transformative, allowing people to process past experiences that leave them feeling stuck, broken, or overwhelmed.

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Drawing from her own lived experiences with trauma.

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Chelsea brings an unparalleled depth of empathy and understanding to her work.

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She's committed to both personal and professional growth, ensuring she holds space with integrity and skill.

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In this episode, we dive into how trauma is stored in the body, the power of kinesiology and somatic healing, and practical ways you can begin tuning into your body's messages for healing and transformation.

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If you're ready for a profound conversation on healing from the inside out, this one's for you.

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Let's dive in.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Rachel and I are so excited to have Chelsea Power with us from Manna Temple.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>This is the first time Spirit outspoken is going international, and we couldn't be more excited to have Chelsea be our first guest.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So Chelsea, welcome.

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<v Chelsey>Hello, all the way from Australia.

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<v Chelsey>I'm really happy to be here and have this conversation with you girls.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yes, us too.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So we told you this, the first conversation we had, Rachel and I have been following your Instagram, highly recommended you guys, we'll put the details in, the podcast notes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>But Chelsea's branding, the way that she delivers her message around healing and trauma, like it just beautiful bite-sized chunks of daily reminders that you can integrate into your life, we found fascinating.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And it's just beautiful to look at.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I mean, it's so cohesive.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>It's really just gorgeous.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And it's interesting'cause it's sort of, you know, a duality of you're hitting really heavy topics, but it's delivered in such a peaceful, beautiful way that, I don't know, it's just really appealing.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So, like we said, we've just been really enthralled with you for a while.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So excited to have you.

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<v Chelsey>Thank you.

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<v Chelsey>It's a lovely compliment.

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<v Chelsey>It's an interesting job, um, social media presence, so I've, I've learned how to manage that on top of everything else that I do.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>It is a learning curve.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So can we just start by having you describe your practice in a little bit more detail, how you got started, and really just what our listeners can learn about this spiritual healing practice.

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<v Chelsey>Yeah, sure.

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<v Chelsey>so I am a multi-modality practitioner.

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<v Chelsey>in the game for around 12 years and acquired a few, certifications along the way.

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<v Chelsey>But my foundation training is in kinesiology.

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<v Chelsey>And for those who don't know what kinesiology is, we use the body's, magnetic or energetic receptors to understand stress or ease in the body.

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<v Chelsey>So when I work with a body, this is how kinesiology works, I.

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<v Chelsey>The body will send out stress receptors when it is in a disagreeing state.

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<v Chelsey>So if I was to say to you, while testing your body in a kinesiology way, can you say, my name is Bob.

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<v Chelsey>Your body will naturally reject that and the energy in the body dips and you can feel that and test it with kinesiology.

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<v Chelsey>If, we were to say that I love chocolate and you really do, you'll have a really strong response, which is a positive response.

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<v Chelsey>And so we can use kinesiology to help us understand what areas in your life are creating a real, stress response or your environment or people that you interact with or the way that you think.

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<v Chelsey>So that's the base.

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<v Chelsey>That's it in a nutshell.

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<v Chelsey>And that's the basis of my work.

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<v Chelsey>And then I bring a somatic overlay, which essentially means how does this feel in my body?

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<v Chelsey>How does this statement feel in my body?

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<v Chelsey>How does this interaction feel in my body?

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<v Chelsey>How does this memory feel in my body?

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<v Chelsey>And we start to create a landscape and a mapping and understanding of how do our experiences reflect in our body?

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<v Chelsey>And if you use kinesiology, what is this stressful?

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<v Chelsey>Or am I in agreeance with this?

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<v Chelsey>Is this good for me?

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<v Chelsey>essentially using the body as a radar to help us navigate and change things in our lives.

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<v Rachael Loney>So when you're talking about the kinesiology portion of this, is that on like a subconscious level and then the somatic is more of a cognitive practice.

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<v Chelsey>Yes.

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<v Chelsey>So kinesiology is subconscious in the way that it uses the brain in the parts that we don't really have online thinking.

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<v Rachael Loney>Okay.

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<v Chelsey>are all these other background mechanics.

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<v Chelsey>So, think of it like your heartbeats and keeps you alive, but you don't actively have to think about your heart beating.

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<v Chelsey>There are a whole other systems that are working in the background for us.

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<v Chelsey>Kinesiology taps into those

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<v Rachael Loney>Okay.

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<v Chelsey>understands them, or, uh, brings insight into what's happening in us behind, you know, how our brain works.

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<v Rachael Loney>So when you, so you're a somatic kinesiologist,

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<v Chelsey>You blend them together.

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<v Chelsey>Yeah.

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<v Rachael Loney>We spoke with someone who was a somatic psychotherapist, so that would be more just the, the kind of mental processing and awareness of what you're feeling in your body.

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<v Rachael Loney>Am I, is that correct?

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<v Rachael Loney>That's kind of how it's different.

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<v Rachael Loney>So this, by combining'em, you can really access some really deep parts of yourself that you're just not aware of.

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<v Chelsey>And so the coolest thing, and I get really excited about it, is, particularly in the way that I use kinesiology, is that we are looking for specific emotions and then where has the body housed them?

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<v Chelsey>So when we feel an overwhelming emotion, there has to be a process that the body goes through for it to dissipate.

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<v Chelsey>What happens most of the time actually is that we're overwhelmed.

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<v Chelsey>Our process doesn't kick in, and then we store.

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<v Chelsey>how we get through is I don't wanna feel this feeling.

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<v Chelsey>It's too hard, it's too overwhelming, and the body says, okay, that's too much for us.

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<v Chelsey>Let me house it somewhere else.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Okay.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Interesting.

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<v Chelsey>so in kinesiology we can map which emotion is stored in which organ.

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<v Chelsey>We can even take it further and understand at what age did you store that?

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<v Chelsey>How many times has it been an issue for you?

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<v Chelsey>And you can pinpoint into, is it with a particular parent?

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<v Chelsey>Is it with a particular um, person?

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<v Chelsey>Maybe it was the first day of school, maybe it was riding your bike home and you were late.

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<v Chelsey>Like you can find these memories and find the story, what I call the body story so that you can understand them and then finish the processing.

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<v Rachael Loney>That amazing.

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<v Chelsey>really, really particular,

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So, okay, are you doing like some type of muscle testing to

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<v Chelsey>correct?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>it?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Okay,

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<v Chelsey>Yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>is it a mixture of somebody saying, okay, I have this physical ailment here, or is this all just through, subconscious communication, if you will, through the body's response to some stimuli, through muscle testing that you're

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<v Chelsey>Correct.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>okay.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Okay.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Interesting.

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<v Chelsey>So a a lot of it is, um, it, it's body cues and unspoken, but it also depends you have to be adaptable to how someone wants to heal.

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<v Chelsey>Some people really like to understand and they need to follow the process in a healthy way.

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<v Chelsey>So you can use language to help them understand that, like, what did you feel at three?

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<v Chelsey>who was that with?

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<v Chelsey>And so you can involve them in the process.

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<v Chelsey>I find a lot of the time I will come in and bring language in at the end after I've worked with the body, through muscle testing and asking questions with my own intuition.

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<v Chelsey>And then I'll bring the story at the end and then ask them, how does that resonate for you?

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<v Chelsey>The body is mostly always right.

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<v Chelsey>Sometimes it can confuse things and distort them depending on what we've gone through, but.

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<v Chelsey>As I say to my clients, the the, the body is really keeping the score.

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<v Chelsey>The body knows at times when it's been overwhelmed and our brain, sometimes we'll reinterpret not in a healthy way or in a confusing way.

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<v Chelsey>So we've gotta lean in, with the body first.

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<v Rachael Loney>And then when you're doing the questions during that process, are you saying it out loud or just thinking it in your mind?

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<v Chelsey>We think it in our mind,

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<v Rachael Loney>Okay.

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<v Chelsey>cause we move quite quickly.

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<v Chelsey>and so there is sequences and protocols that we go through and there are general patterns that we understand in kinesiology, that help us get to an answer.

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<v Chelsey>So it's not just.

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<v Chelsey>Say someone lies on the bed with a sore shoulder and we start asking the bodies a series of questions.

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<v Chelsey>There's protocols that we go through to set up an outcome.

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<v Chelsey>And, and it could be things like asking the body, is this an energetic stress?

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<v Chelsey>Is this an emotional stress?

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<v Chelsey>Is this a psychological stress?

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<v Chelsey>Is this a muscular stress?

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<v Chelsey>And so we can start kind of like playing.

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<v Chelsey>Guess who, I guess if you

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<v Rachael Loney>Sure.

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<v Chelsey>game, like

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Rachael Loney>I just played it this.

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<v Chelsey>yeah.

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<v Chelsey>You go through the body in a series of questions that then open what I call pathways.

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<v Chelsey>And then you follow the pathway.

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<v Chelsey>The body loves to leave breadcrumbs and clues as to where it's felt, these certain experiences.

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<v Chelsey>And depending on the kinesiologist and how good you get with your intuition, it can be quite easy.

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<v Chelsey>Or sometimes the body can send you in loops.

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<v Chelsey>It's not always straightforward because we're complex creatures.

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<v Rachael Loney>Do you notice that certain emotions tend to be stored in certain areas, or is it unique and different for everybody?

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<v Chelsey>It can be unique, but the body, because we're a species, it has a particular pattern.

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<v Chelsey>So, let's say, the lungs, for instance, are really common for holding grief, really common for holding sadness, really common for holding UNC tears so they can be very wet and mucusy with all these tears that we've suppressed over time, uh, the liver is renowned for being angry and really emotional.

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<v Chelsey>So if we find people who have, big emotional outbursts, we'll always find a dysfunction in the liver.

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<v Chelsey>The bladder holds a lot of fear and anxiety.

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<v Chelsey>And you can read that with kinesiology.

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<v Chelsey>Certain organs.

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<v Chelsey>And this is coming down to Chinese medicine too, that, that has an overlay.

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<v Chelsey>They will have their particular emotions that they hold, but because we are not always consistent, sometimes you can find that there's something else there.

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<v Chelsey>It's not important to know why.

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<v Chelsey>It's just important to heal it.

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<v Chelsey>You don't always get the, the answer to the question in a way that you want, but you just have to go with what the body gives you.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So when we first spoke, you had some really interesting perspectives on trauma I mean, speaking about, your line of work and what people are really coming in to heal, a lot of it's based on past trauma.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>curious, what traumatic experiences are people most often looking to heal?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Is it, parental?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Is it relationship?, what are the most common.

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<v Chelsey>A practitioner, we generally attract a type of clientele the space that we can hold.

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<v Chelsey>So I have gone through severe trauma in my childhood.

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<v Chelsey>Therefore, the clients that I attract are generally people who have a similar type of trauma.

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<v Chelsey>It's not always the same.

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<v Chelsey>So not every kinesiologist will work with trauma.

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<v Chelsey>I am quite unusual in that way because of all the other things that I do as well.

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<v Chelsey>But the most common that I see in my clinic is generally childhood trauma.

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<v Chelsey>it's adults who have grown up that now reflect on their childhood and perhaps don't have any memory at all, are recognizing that as they've become parents, what they went through as children is really distressing.

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<v Chelsey>Serious levels of neglect or emotional abuse, and people coming out of that authoritarian age were parents ruled by fear and by physical discipline.

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<v Chelsey>I work with a lot of people who suffer from that, who may have not realized that it affected them in the way that it did until now they're a lot older, you know, really in their thirties to forties.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>That's such a fascinating line of work, because all of us have gone through traumatic experiences, and as adults, maybe we don't even remember certain things, like for me personally, I don't think I went through a particularly traumatic childhood, but there are periods of my childhood that I don't remember very well.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>and I'm like, do I just have memory issues or was I having a hard time with something going on?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>You know, as a child that, I cannot reflect appropriately on this is a fascinating healing technique because I don't necessarily have to be cognitively aware of everything that happened to seek treatment based on what you've discussed, So I think this is.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Something people should explore.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Probably before, and we talked about this too, the difference between Australia and the United States before seeking sometimes western you know, share a little bit about the cultural differences because you said something that was fascinating about how oftentimes this is where people start.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And I feel

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<v Chelsey>Yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>States, like we don't even know about most of this stuff.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Right.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And this is a big part of what Rachel and I are trying to do is really shed light on a lot of these really impactful alternative methods of healing.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I just would love for you to share a little bit about that so people can kind of learn why people are more open, in Australia versus maybe in the United States.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I'd love your perspective on that.

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<v Chelsey>I find that wild because of how common it is here for us in Australia.

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<v Chelsey>Why it's different, I'm not sure.

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<v Chelsey>I think that comes down to, a, a belief system, as a society perhaps.

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<v Chelsey>You can walk out onto any street here in Australia and you'll find every town will have some form of holistic.

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<v Chelsey>Practitioner, multiple of them offering their services, things that are here that are really common.

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<v Chelsey>acupuncture is really common.

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<v Chelsey>Chinese medicine is really common.

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<v Chelsey>Herbalism is really common.

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<v Chelsey>Naturopaths really common as well.

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<v Chelsey>Any of your osteos, chiros, we use those as well.

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<v Chelsey>People are more inclined to lean into a body-based practice than we are to go to a GP with a general practitioner.

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<v Chelsey>I find, and maybe you can help me understand, you know, most of our ailments or dis-ease that we feel is in the body, muscular or emotional base.

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<v Chelsey>How can a doctor help you with that?

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<v Chelsey>Unless you're looking to have something prescribed for mental health reasons, but still, if you're feeling it in the body, why wouldn't you seek out a body practitioner?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I think that's the million dollar question, but I think ultimately it fundamentally comes down to, the belief or openness around energy like the bottom line of, you know, Rachel and I have talked about this on past episodes is it's this is it materialism,

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Like, if you can't see it.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>We don't believe it, right?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Like that's sort of the mainstream thing that we're trying to challenge.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>We will feel energy, but we don't necessarily think that we can heal energy.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I don't know.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Like I'm also trying to figure out why there's this resistance.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Right?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And a lot of it could be fear-based, this looks different, this feels different.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I don't know what it is.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>used

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<v Chelsey>maybe,

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<v Jaisa Engasser>my gp, but I don't know.

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<v Chelsey>maybe they can't trust it, but I think, you know, if you think of why does anyone wanna take a medication or see a doctor?

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<v Chelsey>It is generally because there's pain there.

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<v Chelsey>So they're wanting to fix something.

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<v Chelsey>Medication does offer, well, it has been sold to offer a faster solution.

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<v Chelsey>So here, take this pill and then you don't have to feel this thing, right?

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<v Chelsey>Let's look at anxiety.

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<v Chelsey>for instance, it's not a pleasant experience to be severely anxious.

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<v Chelsey>It's not a pleasant experience to have anxiety attacks.

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<v Chelsey>They're quite frightening and debilitating for people.

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<v Chelsey>If the only information that you have to heal that is through anti-anxiety medication, then yes, you are going to lean that way.

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<v Chelsey>But what if you were to look further into it and ask yourself, well, why is it that I have anxiety?

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<v Chelsey>Where does that come from?

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<v Chelsey>Why is my nervous system in such an overwhelmed state that I can't handle going to the shopping center?

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<v Chelsey>Why is my brain, not working where I can't even write a list to go shopping and go to the supermarket?

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<v Chelsey>People need to start asking questions.

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<v Chelsey>Why?

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<v Chelsey>And I think we do that really well here in Australia.

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<v Chelsey>It's like, why do I feel this way?

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<v Chelsey>Let me, let me dive back into my childhood.

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<v Chelsey>Actually, there are heaps of answers in there for me to look at, Was really critical with me growing up and now I have low self-esteem.

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<v Chelsey>Okay, I need to heal that.

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<v Rachael Loney>yeah.

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<v Chelsey>I now have, a perfectionism issue, which gives me anxiety and then I get mind blocks.

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<v Chelsey>And then my only solution is medication, which is a very now based treatment.

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<v Chelsey>Let's just heal you today, the next five minutes you'll feel better.

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<v Chelsey>But you have to be willing to do the work and explore and take things further and be able to sit in the uncomfortable, in a safe space with someone that you trust who can guide you through what those experiences are.

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<v Chelsey>And you can absolutely do that on medication too.

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<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Right.

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<v Chelsey>for some people to be on medication so that they're not continually suffering.

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<v Chelsey>And then you can do the hard work, you know, change your perspective, heal the body, and then maybe it's not a solution for you that you have to stay on forever

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<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

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<v Chelsey>got alternatives into how you work with medication and yourself.

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<v Chelsey>But medication really, I think for the most part where we get stuck is when we use it as an only solution.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yes.

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<v Chelsey>get stuck.

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<v Chelsey>That's it As an only solution.

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<v Rachael Loney>I think, you know, you hit something on the head here with, I do think Jasa in our culture and in our way that we practice medicine, it's very much we treat the symptom right?

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<v Rachael Loney>Like, oh, you have high blood pressure, here's a pill.

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<v Rachael Loney>Oh, you have high cholesterol, here's another pill.

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<v Rachael Loney>And I feel like we're just starting to get to the point where we're starting to ask, well, what's the root cause of this?

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<v Rachael Loney>And so it's just so backwards to what we've in our American culture, have been raised to believe.

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<v Rachael Loney>Like you go to the doctor.

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<v Rachael Loney>They're the authority, they're the expert, they're the scientists.

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<v Rachael Loney>But the truth of the matter is there just haven't been enough studies, like they weren't willing to pay for the studies to support these alternative methods.

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<v Rachael Loney>Now that they're starting to do it, we're starting to realize that there is so much science behind all of these things that people claim are woo woo or out there.

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<v Rachael Loney>Um, and I would be interested too, for you to explain,'cause if someone goes to your website and they're watching you do your work, they might be like, oh wow, what is she doing?

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<v Rachael Loney>But it's actually a very scientific process that you've talked about.

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<v Rachael Loney>So can you kind of expand on that a little bit and just share that with our listeners?

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<v Chelsey>sure.

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<v Chelsey>If you do go to my Instagram and have a look at how I work, you generally see me queuing or touching in a very light way, certain points along the spine.

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<v Chelsey>And sometimes people will have a movement response, or sometimes they'll have a breath response.

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<v Chelsey>And so from outside looking in, it looks very woo woo, I guess you could say.

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<v Chelsey>Like, well, why did they respond that way when she touches this wave?

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<v Chelsey>But it is all with purpose.

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<v Chelsey>Our nervous system runs through our spinal column.

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<v Chelsey>And we've got hundreds of thousands of nerves that are coming out of our spinal cord and our spine itself.

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<v Chelsey>And when you put pressure on some of these nerves, you are creating a response that then the body opens up to, or actually closes down to.

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<v Chelsey>It's up to the body and what and how it's working.

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<v Chelsey>And so me touching these certain areas of the body and understanding what I'm doing For instance, if I touch around the, let's say the sacrum, right?

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<v Chelsey>Tailbone, there's many windows of ease here.

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<v Chelsey>So there's many nerves here that make us feel at peace.

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<v Chelsey>We're inclined to take more breath.

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<v Chelsey>We're inclined to feel more safe and grounded when we're queing certain areas there.

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<v Chelsey>And so if you are really tense on the bed and you're lying there, and then I come and touch these certain cues around the sacrum, you'll watch your body actually just melt.

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<v Chelsey>All takes a big breath and then it eases, or sometimes the tailbone will lift ever so slightly to meet the touch because it's seeking that piece that you are asking the body to receive.

00:23:20.415 --> 00:23:31.395
<v Chelsey>so I'm doing is reading the body like a map and understanding where the body has a certain response and then asking the body to meet me there.

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<v Chelsey>And then the client is simply responding in a beautiful, somatic way.

00:23:37.125 --> 00:23:41.006
<v Chelsey>So there is energy involved in it too, but there's energy and a hug.

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<v Chelsey>I could hug you

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<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

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<v Chelsey>on the type of hug that I give you, I could give you an anxious hug and you might respond in an anxious way.

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<v Chelsey>I could give you a sad hug.

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<v Chelsey>I could be grieving and you would hold me different, right?

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<v Chelsey>Or I could give you a warm embrace and then you would match that with me.

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<v Chelsey>And so.

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<v Chelsey>That's energy.

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<v Chelsey>And then that's the same with what's happening on the tables.

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<v Chelsey>Like, can I get this person to feel a certain way in this space?

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<v Chelsey>And can they receive that,

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<v Rachael Loney>That's so cool.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>That

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<v Rachael Loney>love that.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So are you, is, are you channeling any kind of energy or is there any kind of energy exchange from you?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Or are you merely touching certain spots and then seeing how individual responds?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

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<v Chelsey>I have to say that my kind of work, and I am Reiki trained, so that that is different where you are working or increasing energy in a body, but.

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<v Chelsey>this type of work, what I do now and how I work is that I really just become a conduit.

00:24:46.946 --> 00:24:47.915
<v Chelsey>So I am empty.

00:24:47.915 --> 00:24:49.056
<v Chelsey>It's not about me.

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<v Chelsey>I can't give this person my energy, and that's dangerous because my energy is for me.

00:24:54.936 --> 00:24:58.115
<v Chelsey>But what I can offer them is a healing vibration.

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<v Chelsey>I can offer them safety, I can offer them, peace.

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<v Chelsey>I can offer them calm.

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<v Chelsey>And then what does their body do when they also enter that state?

00:25:10.046 --> 00:25:15.776
<v Chelsey>So our body can really only heal in windows of ease or regulation.

00:25:16.586 --> 00:25:19.676
<v Chelsey>the fastest way that we can do that is through co-regulation.

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<v Chelsey>So me being a safe space for you to bring your nervous system down, and then me staying in neutral and nonjudgmental, that opens the way for your higher self, your innate wisdom to then come through your body.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>That is beautiful, Chelsea.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Oh my gosh.

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<v Chelsey>Yeah,

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<v Rachael Loney>I know.

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<v Chelsey>I think what's important to remember, I am not the healer.

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<v Chelsey>I do nothing.

00:25:51.196 --> 00:25:53.836
<v Chelsey>I only offer space and I guide.

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<v Chelsey>You are the healer.

00:25:55.576 --> 00:25:56.956
<v Chelsey>Your body heals.

00:25:57.826 --> 00:26:03.696
<v Chelsey>I can't do any of that for you, nor do I make any of that, more accessible to you or not.

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<v Chelsey>That's all your body's choice and you, so if you are open to receive, if you are open to heal, then your body naturally will start to raise its own vibration on the table so that it can do that for you.

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<v Chelsey>I'm simply a witness.

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<v Chelsey>And a bit more of a guide into you allowing yourself to do that.

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<v Chelsey>I can tell you where you're stuck so you can get out of your own way so that then you can heal,

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<v Rachael Loney>So I'm assuming you can't do this virtually, is that correct?

00:26:35.786 --> 00:26:37.135
<v Chelsey>you can, you can do

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<v Rachael Loney>Oh, you can't.

00:26:38.276 --> 00:26:38.996
<v Chelsey>Yes.

00:26:39.176 --> 00:26:42.026
<v Chelsey>Because again, I'm not the healer you are.

00:26:42.026 --> 00:26:46.165
<v Chelsey>And so I, from the other side of the world through a computer, can still cue you.

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<v Chelsey>The same with my words.

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<v Rachael Loney>okay.

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<v Chelsey>ask you to anchor your breath into another space of the body.

00:26:52.165 --> 00:26:54.236
<v Chelsey>Your body is doing all the work.

00:26:54.536 --> 00:26:58.946
<v Chelsey>I can connect to you energetically, but I'm doing that with you now just through talking.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Chelsey>to you.

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<v Chelsey>We're exchanging, energy in the way that we're doing that, and we can feel each other's, vibration

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<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

00:27:07.426 --> 00:27:10.125
<v Chelsey>through really excited, through more calm,

00:27:10.441 --> 00:27:10.861
<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

00:27:11.056 --> 00:27:13.726
<v Chelsey>listening, like we're shifting with each other.

00:27:14.401 --> 00:27:16.171
<v Chelsey>know, every few seconds.

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<v Chelsey>And so we can do that in a healing session.

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<v Chelsey>We can do that in a meditative state together.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So what we've observed also is that there is this hunger, this need for stuff like this.

00:27:30.649 --> 00:27:37.338
<v Jaisa Engasser>and I really feel like people are waking up, they're learning the same thing that worked for me 15 years ago isn't working for me anymore.

00:27:37.399 --> 00:27:38.359
<v Jaisa Engasser>I need something different.

00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:39.469
<v Jaisa Engasser>I need something deeper.

00:27:39.469 --> 00:27:41.598
<v Jaisa Engasser>I need something more fulfilling.

00:27:41.869 --> 00:27:52.879
<v Jaisa Engasser>So to know that you can still guide people through this beautiful process even virtually is so helpful because the next question, you know, our, our listeners are gonna ask is like, okay, Chelsea's amazing.

00:27:52.879 --> 00:27:54.288
<v Jaisa Engasser>How can I find a Chelsea here?

00:27:54.288 --> 00:27:58.739
<v Jaisa Engasser>But it's so good to know that they can connect with you, no matter where they are.

00:27:59.159 --> 00:28:02.578
<v Jaisa Engasser>So I, I love what you were saying about how.

00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.919
<v Jaisa Engasser>You are not necessarily the quote unquote healer that our bodies know how to heal itself.

00:28:07.949 --> 00:28:12.229
<v Jaisa Engasser>You are just merely a guide to help us reach our optimal vibration.

00:28:12.229 --> 00:28:18.989
<v Jaisa Engasser>So our souls, our higher self or spirit, whatever you wanna say, is able to navigate that healing naturally.

00:28:19.169 --> 00:28:20.459
<v Jaisa Engasser>So that's really empowering.

00:28:20.671 --> 00:28:26.401
<v Jaisa Engasser>Are empowered to do this themselves and they just need to trust that they can do it.

00:28:26.401 --> 00:28:34.831
<v Jaisa Engasser>But that is really where you come in, is you help them see that they can do this on their own, which I think is coolest part about it,

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<v Chelsey>Yeah, absolutely.

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<v Chelsey>Well, let's think of you as, as a country and maybe the way that you've been taught to think about your body.

00:28:45.655 --> 00:28:46.976
<v Chelsey>It's not the most empowering.

00:28:47.490 --> 00:28:47.841
<v Jaisa Engasser>right.

00:28:48.611 --> 00:28:50.321
<v Chelsey>imagine, right?

00:28:50.561 --> 00:28:56.471
<v Chelsey>It's that your body is sick, that you are injured, that you need help to heal.

00:28:56.740 --> 00:29:04.451
<v Chelsey>So when you think about what I just offered in saying that you are the healer, then that totally flips that story on its head.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yes

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<v Rachael Loney>Yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>it does.

00:29:06.806 --> 00:29:13.766
<v Jaisa Engasser>And I'm telling you, Once there's an awakening, a lot of people aren't gonna like this because think about big pharma and a lot of these things that

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<v Chelsey>Yes.

00:29:14.365 --> 00:29:25.135
<v Jaisa Engasser>absolutely driven to keep people sick, convince them that they're sick, convince them that they have no alternative then to take the medicines that they're making billions off of, right?

00:29:25.135 --> 00:29:25.436
<v Jaisa Engasser>Like

00:29:25.596 --> 00:29:25.885
<v Chelsey>Yeah.

00:29:26.006 --> 00:29:27.296
<v Jaisa Engasser>this, this whole loop.

00:29:27.655 --> 00:29:40.976
<v Jaisa Engasser>But one of the things I wanna make sure we touch on, that you brought up in our first intro session was that there can be certain blocks to people's healing, like these are intrinsic sometimes, like these are collective consciousness type stuff, right?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>That are.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Fear-based potentially from even religion.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Right.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I would love to hear your perspective because I thought you did such a good job of sort of taking the temperature down a little bit around okay, not only, I think we've established that people don't need to fear this, but why potentially religion or belief systems that are ingrained in religion can create a block to one's healing.

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<v Chelsey>Yeah.

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<v Chelsey>Uh, big question.

00:30:10.165 --> 00:30:11.756
<v Chelsey>Let's see if we can, yeah.

00:30:11.966 --> 00:30:14.756
<v Chelsey>Big, big question and where, where do we go with this?

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<v Chelsey>Well, I.

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<v Chelsey>For your listeners who are are listening, a little bit about me is, I know religion really well.

00:30:21.891 --> 00:30:24.161
<v Chelsey>I grew up, as a pastor's kid.

00:30:24.161 --> 00:30:29.411
<v Chelsey>I was in church from the age of three to 18 when I left on my own.

00:30:29.681 --> 00:30:37.121
<v Chelsey>And I really learned a lot, saw a lot, and I also witnessed a lot that I didn't agree with.

00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.510
<v Chelsey>And so coming out of that now, you know, I'm in my late thirties.

00:30:40.750 --> 00:30:44.740
<v Chelsey>I've had to do almost a lifetime of healing around this certain time in my life.

00:30:45.431 --> 00:30:47.951
<v Chelsey>So, I get very passionate about this topic.

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<v Chelsey>I think in our first chat we really did a whole big conversation about it.

00:30:51.701 --> 00:31:06.401
<v Chelsey>But if we talk to just healing on its own and blocks, I think from my experience and from the clients that I've had that are working through religion as part of their history, I think we can all understand and agree on that.

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<v Chelsey>Fear plays a really big part.

00:31:08.936 --> 00:31:10.405
<v Chelsey>In a religious journey.

00:31:10.826 --> 00:31:23.395
<v Chelsey>So fear of, um, stepping outside the boundaries, fear of going against the narrative, fear of, uh, hell heaven and hell, and where am I gonna end up?

00:31:23.696 --> 00:31:26.216
<v Chelsey>And that gets programmed through you.

00:31:26.456 --> 00:31:36.145
<v Chelsey>And so when it comes to healing and fear is a big part of that, and your narrative is that healing should only come through God, well then how do I go outside of that and seek other treatment?

00:31:36.921 --> 00:31:37.341
<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

00:31:37.436 --> 00:31:49.816
<v Chelsey>And what if working with someone who is, let's say energy in something that isn't really encouraged in the church, well then that's bad for me and I can't access that.

00:31:49.966 --> 00:31:54.105
<v Chelsey>And so there's other whole parts of my body that I have to deny to hold that story as well.

00:31:55.516 --> 00:32:00.796
<v Chelsey>So I have to that I don't have an e energetic system, which.

00:32:02.040 --> 00:32:03.811
<v Chelsey>because it's true.

00:32:03.971 --> 00:32:07.000
<v Chelsey>We have different systems in our body that only work through energy.

00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:19.871
<v Chelsey>Emotions are energy, and so I think you have to out a whole piece of important information sometimes to hold a narrative that says that healing can only be accessed this way.

00:32:20.375 --> 00:32:20.796
<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

00:32:20.921 --> 00:32:30.490
<v Chelsey>so our own blocks really come down to, well, maybe there's pieces in our story that are missing where I can't connect all the dots or I can't flow.

00:32:30.641 --> 00:32:32.801
<v Chelsey>I can't heal it in a fearful state.

00:32:33.131 --> 00:32:34.061
<v Chelsey>There's no way.

00:32:35.081 --> 00:32:35.321
<v Chelsey>As I

00:32:35.381 --> 00:32:35.530
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

00:32:35.530 --> 00:32:39.641
<v Chelsey>before, you can only heal in windows of ease and regulation.

00:32:39.971 --> 00:32:43.000
<v Chelsey>That's the only way the body can come into homeostasis.

00:32:43.151 --> 00:32:44.230
<v Chelsey>That's science.

00:32:44.766 --> 00:32:45.186
<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

00:32:45.431 --> 00:32:47.141
<v Chelsey>heal you in a stressed state.

00:32:47.141 --> 00:32:58.480
<v Chelsey>So if you are fearful and ingrained to believe that everything outside of a church or religious narrative, it is evil, then how do you access healing at all?

00:33:00.030 --> 00:33:01.096
<v Jaisa Engasser>That's exactly right.

00:33:01.125 --> 00:33:09.226
<v Jaisa Engasser>And I think, you know, and religion like we talked about even previously isn't bad, but the dogma could be, right?

00:33:09.226 --> 00:33:09.855
<v Jaisa Engasser>Like that's

00:33:09.976 --> 00:33:10.196
<v Chelsey>Yes.

00:33:10.326 --> 00:33:12.036
<v Jaisa Engasser>either this or it's wrong.

00:33:12.066 --> 00:33:20.466
<v Jaisa Engasser>It's either very specifically within the confines of what the church has specified or it's evil and it's something that should be feared.

00:33:20.746 --> 00:33:21.766
<v Jaisa Engasser>It's just really up to

00:33:21.796 --> 00:33:22.086
<v Chelsey>Yeah.

00:33:23.115 --> 00:33:33.676
<v Jaisa Engasser>and your own belief system, and that's something that Rachel and I really focus on is like using your own intuition, your own inner compass to tell you what feels right and what feels safe and what doesn't.

00:33:33.676 --> 00:33:46.096
<v Jaisa Engasser>And just talking with you, Chelsea, you feel like I'm literally, like I, I, I'm gonna come to Australia to spend time with you because I know you're not calling yourself a healer, but you have this healing safe energy that I feel like.

00:33:46.506 --> 00:33:58.385
<v Jaisa Engasser>It's a tragedy that people wouldn't explore this as a path just based on what they were told was right or wrong as a child, as a teen, or even now as an adult.

00:33:58.395 --> 00:34:11.786
<v Jaisa Engasser>I know it was a really big question and I didn't mean to put you on a spot, but I do think getting your perspective on that is so interesting'cause it will continue to help people, challenge things that they've always been told that they haven't necessarily personally agreed with.

00:34:12.665 --> 00:34:13.565
<v Chelsey>Absolutely.

00:34:13.775 --> 00:34:18.665
<v Chelsey>And I, I think, you know, healing it is a, a mindset.

00:34:18.665 --> 00:34:28.085
<v Chelsey>So us back, and if we talk about woowoo, uh, if we think about when we were talking about laying hands on the church, right?

00:34:28.476 --> 00:34:31.625
<v Chelsey>That could be seen as very woowoo to anyone outside.

00:34:32.326 --> 00:34:32.956
<v Chelsey>Church

00:34:33.061 --> 00:34:33.540
<v Jaisa Engasser>Yes,

00:34:33.645 --> 00:34:40.565
<v Chelsey>and there's not a lot of science to back that up, so how come, that would be deemed acceptable, but Reiki wouldn't.

00:34:41.061 --> 00:34:41.721
<v Jaisa Engasser>exactly.

00:34:42.125 --> 00:34:43.056
<v Chelsey>the same thing.

00:34:43.395 --> 00:34:45.076
<v Chelsey>So we look at the church scenario.

00:34:45.226 --> 00:34:48.456
<v Chelsey>Someone comes to have, the hands laid on them and prayed over.

00:34:48.545 --> 00:34:55.036
<v Chelsey>You have a congregation meet with, a mutual intention to raise a healing vibration.

00:34:55.036 --> 00:34:57.351
<v Chelsey>So they are, they are giving love, they're asking for it.

00:34:57.735 --> 00:34:59.596
<v Chelsey>This person is then receiving.

00:35:00.496 --> 00:35:04.695
<v Chelsey>healing may be available to them because they've entered a healing and safe state.

00:35:05.505 --> 00:35:09.795
<v Chelsey>then when we look at reiki, so we go outside the church where this happens.

00:35:09.795 --> 00:35:12.585
<v Chelsey>Also, someone comes to a practitioner to receive.

00:35:13.155 --> 00:35:17.235
<v Chelsey>The practitioner raises a healing vibration and asks their body to match it.

00:35:17.476 --> 00:35:20.505
<v Chelsey>And so they do, and healing may be available to them.

00:35:20.925 --> 00:35:22.576
<v Chelsey>This is exactly the same.

00:35:22.695 --> 00:35:27.615
<v Chelsey>What happens in the church and what happens out in, uh, you know, another practitioner's building.

00:35:28.096 --> 00:35:31.786
<v Chelsey>It's the same frequency, like healing is a frequency of its own.

00:35:32.385 --> 00:35:32.605
<v Jaisa Engasser>Yes.

00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:33.221
<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

00:35:33.315 --> 00:35:35.535
<v Chelsey>It's all working with energy.

00:35:35.955 --> 00:35:39.585
<v Chelsey>God, universal light, that is also energy.

00:35:39.795 --> 00:35:41.596
<v Chelsey>It's an energetic presence.

00:35:41.596 --> 00:35:47.056
<v Chelsey>You can't have one energy that is right and then all the rest wrong.

00:35:47.971 --> 00:35:48.190
<v Rachael Loney>Oh,

00:35:48.705 --> 00:35:49.395
<v Chelsey>like that.

00:35:50.310 --> 00:35:51.000
<v Rachael Loney>amen, sister.

00:35:52.215 --> 00:35:53.085
<v Jaisa Engasser>I gonna say preach,

00:35:54.225 --> 00:35:54.615
<v Chelsey>Yeah,

00:35:56.326 --> 00:35:56.835
<v Jaisa Engasser>preach.

00:35:57.225 --> 00:35:58.485
<v Chelsey>work like that.

00:35:58.485 --> 00:36:01.275
<v Chelsey>So you universal energy.

00:36:01.365 --> 00:36:04.965
<v Chelsey>Um, we can have energies that are denser than others.

00:36:05.085 --> 00:36:13.410
<v Chelsey>We can have some that are maybe more attached to lower type frequencies, but there's a place for all of it here, right?

00:36:13.410 --> 00:36:23.250
<v Chelsey>The world and our universe lives in perfect balance so that if there are angelic frequencies as above, so below, there will be darker frequencies too.

00:36:24.150 --> 00:36:26.040
<v Chelsey>So it's up to you what you dabble in.

00:36:26.730 --> 00:36:28.080
<v Chelsey>have free will with that.

00:36:28.875 --> 00:36:30.815
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah, follow your intuition.

00:36:30.815 --> 00:36:39.035
<v Rachael Loney>Because there have been things, whether it's, you know, within the confines of someone in a church setting where I'm like, Ooh, that doesn't feel right.

00:36:39.245 --> 00:36:47.365
<v Rachael Loney>And on the flip side, too, going out and exploring other things, and you can just feel, and you sense where it's safe, where it's loving.

00:36:47.365 --> 00:37:05.535
<v Rachael Loney>And I feel like as we've done this, it's like, follow the love, follow the piece, that's how you really start to, to weave some of this incredible healing and finding wonderful people to work with, maybe in some new and unique different ways that you've never considered before, but instinctively your soul or your spirit.

00:37:05.955 --> 00:37:08.855
<v Rachael Loney>You know, what feels good and what doesn't.

00:37:09.850 --> 00:37:18.015
<v Chelsey>Well, taking us back to kinesiology where your body feels everything, you've gotta listen to your body when you're walking into a space, and how does that feel for you?

00:37:18.015 --> 00:37:19.545
<v Chelsey>This type of healing modality?

00:37:20.175 --> 00:37:22.215
<v Chelsey>doesn't have to be right, right?

00:37:22.215 --> 00:37:23.745
<v Chelsey>It just has to be right for you.

00:37:24.471 --> 00:37:24.760
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:25.250
<v Chelsey>That's it.

00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:35.960
<v Chelsey>Like we can't, we have a culture here in Australia and maybe, you know, other countries where we have modalities that are competing against each other to be more, right?

00:37:36.020 --> 00:37:36.890
<v Chelsey>Who's more right?

00:37:37.670 --> 00:37:38.870
<v Chelsey>Who's more who?

00:37:38.931 --> 00:37:39.951
<v Chelsey>Who has more truth?

00:37:40.160 --> 00:37:41.721
<v Chelsey>But that's not a way to look at it.

00:37:41.721 --> 00:37:44.330
<v Chelsey>We gotta understand that everybody is different,

00:37:44.971 --> 00:37:45.090
<v Rachael Loney>Hmm.

00:37:45.650 --> 00:37:49.640
<v Chelsey>can serve your purpose in your journey at one point or another.

00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:59.431
<v Chelsey>It depends on where you are in your healing journey, what you're open to, and how you are received by the practitioner and how that feels for you.

00:37:59.670 --> 00:38:02.850
<v Chelsey>So there's no right and there's also no wrong.

00:38:02.910 --> 00:38:03.931
<v Chelsey>There's just learning.

00:38:04.260 --> 00:38:04.550
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

00:38:04.830 --> 00:38:13.350
<v Chelsey>Let's say that you had acupuncture and you don't really like needles, and you walked in and your gut was telling you, this isn't the right place for me, but I wanna explore it.

00:38:13.560 --> 00:38:17.130
<v Chelsey>And then you have not a great experience or feels like it does nothing.

00:38:17.370 --> 00:38:19.170
<v Chelsey>It wasn't a wrong experience.

00:38:19.605 --> 00:38:20.625
<v Chelsey>That's a learning.

00:38:20.775 --> 00:38:21.465
<v Chelsey>It's like, okay.

00:38:21.465 --> 00:38:25.635
<v Chelsey>So my discernment in the beginning told me that this was gonna be a good idea.

00:38:25.965 --> 00:38:27.675
<v Chelsey>I still chose to go through with it.

00:38:27.975 --> 00:38:29.385
<v Chelsey>I had a fearful response.

00:38:29.445 --> 00:38:30.556
<v Chelsey>I had no result.

00:38:30.885 --> 00:38:33.885
<v Chelsey>I'm now gonna put that in my information box as a modality.

00:38:33.885 --> 00:38:38.175
<v Chelsey>That doesn't really work for me right now, it is incredible for others.

00:38:38.910 --> 00:38:39.130
<v Jaisa Engasser>Yes.

00:38:40.096 --> 00:38:40.635
<v Jaisa Engasser>Yes.

00:38:40.695 --> 00:38:42.255
<v Jaisa Engasser>I think that that's so spot on.

00:38:42.735 --> 00:38:51.605
<v Jaisa Engasser>And as we are also investigating all of these different spirituality techniques and modalities and perspectives and theories.

00:38:51.665 --> 00:38:52.865
<v Jaisa Engasser>Everything right.

00:38:53.225 --> 00:38:54.455
<v Jaisa Engasser>Rachel and I are learning too.

00:38:54.455 --> 00:38:54.695
<v Jaisa Engasser>Right.

00:38:54.695 --> 00:38:55.295
<v Jaisa Engasser>And what might.

00:38:55.620 --> 00:38:58.050
<v Jaisa Engasser>Be a perfect fit for me may be different for Rachel.

00:38:58.050 --> 00:39:11.870
<v Jaisa Engasser>Like I learned recently, I love talking to intuitive individuals and I've also realized like, you know, the fortune telling kind of stuff like, oh hey Jasa, you're gonna go visit California in a month, right?

00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:23.971
<v Jaisa Engasser>For me it's sort of a fun little dopamine hit, but what I'm getting a lot of, soul nourishment from is growth and somebody challenging me and helping me think differently, right?

00:39:23.971 --> 00:39:27.270
<v Jaisa Engasser>So I am still also navigating, right?

00:39:27.270 --> 00:39:30.690
<v Jaisa Engasser>Like what if the perfect spirituality for me?

00:39:31.020 --> 00:39:33.660
<v Jaisa Engasser>And you know, I've talked very openly too.

00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:36.510
<v Jaisa Engasser>You know, my son, you know, was diagnosed with cancer.

00:39:36.510 --> 00:39:39.620
<v Jaisa Engasser>I think I shared that with you Chelsea, about two years ago.

00:39:39.980 --> 00:39:47.471
<v Jaisa Engasser>And when it comes to, healing, it's like a blend of Christian scriptures that I feel really empowered.

00:39:47.790 --> 00:40:04.800
<v Jaisa Engasser>Around and also meditative energy healing where I am visualizing, sending him gold healing energy, and literally putting my hands over him when he was in the hospital to send him love and praying over his chemo and sending energy to his chemo, right?

00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:10.650
<v Jaisa Engasser>It's like I'm just making my own little mixed bag of, you know, things that work.

00:40:10.650 --> 00:40:18.690
<v Jaisa Engasser>But I felt so empowered because I was able to research, I was able to see the things that felt really good to me.

00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:25.440
<v Jaisa Engasser>So even if you don't necessarily need something right now and it's not acute, it's always good to challenge oneself.

00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:28.170
<v Jaisa Engasser>To grow spiritually by learning.

00:40:28.201 --> 00:40:33.750
<v Jaisa Engasser>Not necessarily just, um, deciphering what's right and wrong, but by learning and investigating.

00:40:33.750 --> 00:40:36.840
<v Jaisa Engasser>'cause you'll naturally feel like, okay, I'm gonna, like you said, put that.

00:40:37.275 --> 00:40:43.725
<v Jaisa Engasser>Put that on a shelf for a rainy day, one day when I think that modality or that technique might be helpful, right?

00:40:43.725 --> 00:40:56.565
<v Jaisa Engasser>So like I have a lived experience of doing this and mixing and learning and investigating, and being able to draw on those things when I really needed them in a way that just felt really impactful, right?

00:40:56.565 --> 00:40:57.645
<v Jaisa Engasser>So this is really

00:40:57.750 --> 00:40:58.040
<v Chelsey>Yeah,

00:40:58.785 --> 00:41:00.255
<v Jaisa Engasser>to our listeners to do.

00:41:00.255 --> 00:41:08.925
<v Jaisa Engasser>So you guys like, keep learning, keep investigating because if something looks but intriguing, see what it's about, right?

00:41:08.925 --> 00:41:14.420
<v Jaisa Engasser>And if you learn that it's not for you, you're not, you're not gonna go to hell like I don't

00:41:14.590 --> 00:41:16.270
<v Chelsey>no, no.

00:41:16.451 --> 00:41:22.390
<v Chelsey>And like the most important thing to remember is that wisdom is available for all of us.

00:41:23.145 --> 00:41:25.576
<v Chelsey>All these modalities are here for you.

00:41:25.725 --> 00:41:29.056
<v Chelsey>You get to shop and pick and choose which one works for you.

00:41:29.235 --> 00:41:31.785
<v Chelsey>You get to invest in the ones that feel amazing.

00:41:31.785 --> 00:41:35.475
<v Chelsey>You get to then, uh, integrate the ones that feel good for you.

00:41:35.625 --> 00:41:36.405
<v Chelsey>Why?

00:41:36.585 --> 00:41:45.375
<v Chelsey>Why should your healing journey be only limited to one thing while the rest of us have access to it all?

00:41:45.645 --> 00:42:01.965
<v Chelsey>How come I'm allowed to go into the healing library of hundreds of thousands of different frequencies, or hundreds of thousands of different modalities, and you decide that you can only read one book from one shelf, and that's it.

00:42:02.410 --> 00:42:02.630
<v Jaisa Engasser>Yes.

00:42:02.745 --> 00:42:18.735
<v Chelsey>you're cutting yourself off to an abundant supply of healing when you don't want to explore, you are doing it to yourself because you're scared to walk down that aisle in the library and choose this book

00:42:18.940 --> 00:42:19.230
<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

00:42:19.425 --> 00:42:21.615
<v Chelsey>why you are allowed to look too.

00:42:22.045 --> 00:42:22.465
<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

00:42:22.681 --> 00:42:24.060
<v Chelsey>look, you don't

00:42:24.120 --> 00:42:24.420
<v Rachael Loney>And

00:42:24.540 --> 00:42:25.320
<v Chelsey>engage.

00:42:25.620 --> 00:42:30.480
<v Rachael Loney>know in my own life since I've started doing this, is you can also tweak it and make it your own.

00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:38.600
<v Rachael Loney>Like you can be inspired by other healing modalities and still put it through a lens of your own faith or religion, if that's how you want to do it.

00:42:38.600 --> 00:42:45.290
<v Rachael Loney>You really have freedom here to explore and make it the most meaningful, impactful thing for you.

00:42:45.715 --> 00:42:52.755
<v Rachael Loney>Just having decision and control over that, I think is huge for people to hear that message over and over and over again.

00:42:52.885 --> 00:42:53.755
<v Rachael Loney>You can do this.

00:42:54.056 --> 00:42:54.955
<v Rachael Loney>It's okay.

00:42:56.035 --> 00:43:09.775
<v Chelsey>So even though like in my circumstance, while I don't align with religion so much now because of my lived experience, there are parts of it that I absolutely do still believe in because they're beneficial for all.

00:43:09.775 --> 00:43:14.635
<v Chelsey>So laying on hands, of course, we're we are, I lay people hands on people for healing.

00:43:14.755 --> 00:43:18.205
<v Chelsey>Jason, you were just saying you were laying hands on, on your boy in hospital.

00:43:18.385 --> 00:43:20.035
<v Chelsey>There is healing to be had there.

00:43:20.100 --> 00:43:20.520
<v Chelsey>Prayer.

00:43:20.725 --> 00:43:21.685
<v Chelsey>I still pray.

00:43:21.925 --> 00:43:23.306
<v Chelsey>I pray over my children.

00:43:23.455 --> 00:43:24.895
<v Chelsey>I pray over my clients.

00:43:25.225 --> 00:43:30.415
<v Chelsey>I know, but that I'm not, I'm dealing with energy that is beyond me.

00:43:30.590 --> 00:43:31.010
<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

00:43:31.195 --> 00:43:38.695
<v Chelsey>I will communicate with it and I will pray when I don't have the answer in clinic with someone, I'll pray.

00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:40.210
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

00:43:40.355 --> 00:43:40.576
<v Jaisa Engasser>Oh

00:43:40.645 --> 00:43:42.985
<v Chelsey>might say the creator, or I might say the universe.

00:43:43.015 --> 00:43:47.425
<v Chelsey>I say, creator, let this person receive in a way that I can't understand.

00:43:47.725 --> 00:43:49.885
<v Chelsey>Help me find the answers that I can't see.

00:43:50.155 --> 00:43:51.445
<v Chelsey>What is this body telling me?

00:43:51.445 --> 00:43:56.275
<v Chelsey>If sometimes I get so stuck, I may just pray that they receive whatever it is that they need,

00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:57.340
<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

00:43:57.505 --> 00:44:01.735
<v Chelsey>that the creator guides my hands in a way that's beneficial to this person.

00:44:03.625 --> 00:44:14.965
<v Chelsey>I still pray, even though religion isn't a big part of my life anymore, but I do communicate with, with the universe and the energy that is around us all the time, how do I conduct that?

00:44:16.105 --> 00:44:18.505
<v Chelsey>Where is my intention going with this energy?

00:44:19.465 --> 00:44:21.535
<v Chelsey>When my children are sick, absolutely pray over them.

00:44:21.535 --> 00:44:23.455
<v Chelsey>I pray over them every day for protection.

00:44:24.355 --> 00:44:27.145
<v Chelsey>You know, I spirit guide them, help them make good choices.

00:44:28.195 --> 00:44:29.275
<v Chelsey>Help them feel love.

00:44:31.570 --> 00:44:31.870
<v Chelsey>You know?

00:44:31.870 --> 00:44:32.070
<v Chelsey>So

00:44:32.155 --> 00:44:32.455
<v Rachael Loney>Oh my gosh.

00:44:32.455 --> 00:44:33.175
<v Chelsey>can pick.

00:44:33.175 --> 00:44:35.035
<v Chelsey>You can pick and choose.

00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:39.460
<v Chelsey>Don't box yourself when it comes to healing.

00:44:39.701 --> 00:44:49.270
<v Chelsey>You can still love your God and love your faith, but please just look outside into the other things that are available to you too.

00:44:49.660 --> 00:45:00.010
<v Chelsey>Most modalities in the healing world, you can trace back to some kind of religious beginning or vice versa.

00:45:00.201 --> 00:45:01.701
<v Chelsey>Most of it's been channeled.

00:45:02.900 --> 00:45:05.870
<v Chelsey>Chiropractic has been channeled osteo.

00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:06.050
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

00:45:06.080 --> 00:45:07.100
<v Chelsey>part of it too.

00:45:07.971 --> 00:45:14.540
<v Chelsey>It's channeling is only receiving wisdom from a higher source, which is most of how the Bible was written.

00:45:15.455 --> 00:45:17.705
<v Jaisa Engasser>I know that's the irony, right?

00:45:17.705 --> 00:45:18.431
<v Jaisa Engasser>Like I,

00:45:18.665 --> 00:45:18.885
<v Chelsey>Yes.

00:45:18.965 --> 00:45:23.735
<v Jaisa Engasser>talk about that a lot where I'm like, I already think about that a lot because I'm like, yeah.

00:45:23.735 --> 00:45:35.585
<v Jaisa Engasser>What's been kind of ironic is that the, the Book of Revelations is probably the most wild and out there book that was written, and it was all channeled information.

00:45:35.585 --> 00:45:44.945
<v Jaisa Engasser>Literally channeling information and writing about the end times with all of like these really mystical images and crazy things that are happening and.

00:45:45.306 --> 00:45:55.765
<v Jaisa Engasser>Yet now, today we, we have been told that looking outside the confines of what was done however many centuries ago right, is no longer relevant.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And I think that that's really where we have to challenge our thinking, is that if we believe that something could have been channeled, that was powerful wisdom and information from a higher source to individuals that weren't just Jesus.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>You know, these were other disciples and individuals that had a hand in writing the many different books.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>can still exist today.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And it even says in the Bible, the same power that lived in Jesus lives in us.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Right?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>you can't, you can't have one without the other.

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<v Chelsey>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I just love Chelsea, how you were kind of talking about your own personal journey because at your practice is fascinating.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Obviously this season is about alternative methods to healing But you sharing your story I think is so powerful too because many people were raised in a faith or religion that no longer necessarily aligns to who they are today.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So they abandoned everything that then they're just like, well, I don't know what to do because that didn't feel right.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So now what I just have to power through life without.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>prayer without any faith or anything.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And I think what you said of hanging on to the things that really felt good or really resonated with you deeply, and you still carry that through today, even though you don't describe yourself as quote unquote, religious is such an important message for people to hear so just sort of your lesson of, you know.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>You can still pray, you still have faith, you solve, have all of these things you can, you can learn and investigate is such a really big thing that we're always trying to impart.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So I'm very appreciative that you shared your story'cause I think people are gonna really benefit from that.

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<v Chelsey>Yeah.

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<v Chelsey>Can I say on that to help people whenever they feel lost, it's if when you do things with good intent, when you have good intention and a pure heart, you can bounce between all these different things and pick and choose what works for you.

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<v Chelsey>Like use your intuition and your intention to guide you.

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<v Chelsey>And to pray.

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<v Chelsey>Where, where, when you're lost, just pray.

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<v Chelsey>Just ask.

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<v Chelsey>So it doesn't have to be, it doesn't have to be a religious prayer, but it can be your prayer,

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<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>yes.

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<v Chelsey>What, what is it that you're calling in today for you?

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<v Chelsey>This is what we look at.

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<v Chelsey>Intention setting and other modalities, right?

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<v Chelsey>But at the end of the day, it's still your prayer.

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<v Chelsey>So what is your prayer today?

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<v Chelsey>You know, what, what are you calling in?

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<v Chelsey>What do you wanna be surrounded by?

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<v Chelsey>Is there wisdom that you are ready to receive?

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<v Chelsey>Right?

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<v Chelsey>We, we have access to this all the time, so you could pray whether this modality feels good for you.

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<v Chelsey>You know, I ask, I'm gonna put that on my heart.

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<v Chelsey>I'm gonna sit with that for a little bit.

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<v Chelsey>You know, I wanna try reiki.

00:48:37.120 --> 00:48:38.740
<v Chelsey>It looks interesting, but I'm hesitant.

00:48:38.740 --> 00:48:39.701
<v Chelsey>I'm gonna sit with that.

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<v Chelsey>I'm gonna see how that feels.

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<v Chelsey>I'm gonna think about it and pray on it every day until I feel like, you know, I have an answer in that space.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah,

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<v Chelsey>Just communicate with the universe with what you want.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>We're like obsessed with you, Chelsea.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I don't.

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<v Rachael Loney>Seriously.

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<v Rachael Loney>What if Jason and I just like pop out of a shrub by your office one day and we're like, we're here

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<v Chelsey>Yes.

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<v Chelsey>Amazing.

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<v Rachael Loney>Two short psychotic women from the US just for a plane and appear on your doorstep.

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<v Rachael Loney>It might happen.

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<v Chelsey>to the States and share and share some of this Australian love and

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Chelsey>holistic thinking over there.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I think you do.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And then that's a big thing.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>What we're doing too is we're branching out, we're doing events, and we see ourselves as almost like the bridge between

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<v Chelsey>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>that need something, want something or don't know where to go.

00:49:33.088 --> 00:49:37.768
<v Jaisa Engasser>And healers that have amazing things to offer individuals.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And we've seen such a response from our community But genuinely, it's, um, just connecting with, you know, people who are in pain or need healing.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And these amazing healers and practitioners and individuals that have beautiful messages to share, you know, perspectives to challenge us or hands-on techniques to help us heal.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I mean, I, if you've, we are, can you tell if we're so excited about this?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I mean, really it's like we feel so passionate about it because needed.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Chelsey>Yeah, absolutely.

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<v Chelsey>And you of, of course, you're offering healing to people, right?

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<v Chelsey>You're offering something to people and asking them to meet you where you are,

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

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<v Chelsey>to move forward.

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<v Chelsey>So you are offering a pathway to many different things That's healing, right?

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<v Chelsey>You are offering growth, people's thoughts.

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<v Chelsey>You are offering them another perspective.

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<v Chelsey>And that's, that's all we can really do as guides on people's paths.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Chelsey>how about, how about you think about this?

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<v Chelsey>How does this feel for you?

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<v Chelsey>And then you are empowering people to make choices for themselves.

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<v Chelsey>And also, you know, doing a little bit of this hands up in the air.

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<v Chelsey>Two thumbs up.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah,

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<v Chelsey>You can challenge, you can challenge what you thought was true.

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<v Chelsey>You get to change your mind.

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<v Chelsey>This is the number one thing I teach in my clinic with people is you get to change your mind today.

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<v Chelsey>You can wake up and say, I really believe this.

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<v Chelsey>you can wake up and say, actually I believe this.

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<v Chelsey>It is okay.

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<v Chelsey>How will you ever know that this was for you unless you sit with it.\

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Chelsey>So yeah, if you are offering every modality on this space, then that's, you know, beautiful.

00:51:31.098 --> 00:51:32.208
<v Chelsey>It's a buffet.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>that's it.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>That's it.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I love

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<v Chelsey>you're complex cre.

00:51:35.745 --> 00:51:36.795
<v Chelsey>You're complex.

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<v Chelsey>Like, let's look at psychological, musculo skeletal emotional childhood, future mother, wife.

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<v Chelsey>Like, look at all the pieces of you that need different things.

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<v Chelsey>How can you only be boxed in one place to heal and to work through?

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<v Chelsey>need a variety to meet all these different needs.

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<v Chelsey>So I encourage your listeners ask questions, try new things.

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<v Chelsey>Don't be scared.

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<v Chelsey>Use your intuition the best that you can.

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<v Chelsey>And when there's hesitation, just sit on it, think on it, pray on it, see how it feels for you.

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<v Chelsey>But don't be afraid to explore.

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<v Rachael Loney>So I was, I was looking at your website and I was looking at that incredible online workbook that you have that it looks like people can do from the comfort of their own home.

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<v Chelsey>Oh yes.

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<v Chelsey>The online workbook, untamed, actually could be fascinating for some of your readers to read.

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<v Chelsey>That is an ebook that I put together all around the hips and the pelvis.

00:52:39.120 --> 00:52:44.410
<v Chelsey>And how we store emotions in this space of a woman's body, right?

00:52:44.410 --> 00:52:51.400
<v Chelsey>So when I go and, and massage therapists would see this in their work and, and yoga teachers and maybe not understand what's going on.

00:52:52.150 --> 00:52:58.300
<v Chelsey>let's say I connect with a certain place on the hips that is renowned for storing fear.

00:52:59.080 --> 00:53:11.560
<v Chelsey>can release that or open that gateway where the body feels that and then processes it so we can have these certain emotional blocks, guilt, shame, fear, anxiety, anger, resentment.

00:53:11.830 --> 00:53:15.670
<v Chelsey>They are, they're all stored in certain places of the hips and pelvis.

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<v Chelsey>So I wrote this incredible ebook, uh, due to the demand that I was seeing in clinic, that this was a space that I was working on a lot with women.

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<v Chelsey>And it has 60 pages with over 30 somatic practices in there for you to guide yourself through and to work with this place in your body on your own.

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<v Chelsey>And it has all the metaphysical reasons as to, you know, what storing there and what it feels like, and then ways that you can process it so that you don't have to work with someone.

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<v Chelsey>Or if you don't have access to me or other somatic practitioners, you still can work through this on your own.

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<v Chelsey>It's

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Chelsey>space that, especially women house because our womb is essentially our powerhouse.

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<v Chelsey>We're all renowned by blocking our creativity and feeling like insecure in the world, and it all comes from this particular space in the body.

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<v Rachael Loney>So cool.

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<v Rachael Loney>Okay.

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<v Rachael Loney>We have a resource page on our website where we create documents or link things up so that people can start practicing some of these spiritual practices at home.

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<v Rachael Loney>So I think that would be a great resource for our listeners to try this.

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<v Rachael Loney>In the comfort of their own environment and in their own time would be great.

00:54:24.558 --> 00:54:40.138
<v Chelsey>If you're hesitant to, move into some of these other modalities, there are, you know, not just me, but there are other practitioners that have resources for you to inquire about, read their eBooks, maybe do some of their practices at home, and does that feel good for you?

00:54:40.138 --> 00:54:44.428
<v Chelsey>And then maybe you're inclined to work with a practitioner like that in person.

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<v Chelsey>There's so many ways for you to dip your toes into some of these practices without having to go all the way in.

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<v Rachael Loney>I love it.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>a great point.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>This is amazing.

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<v Rachael Loney>It was amazing.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>You're such a gift.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Honestly, and I know I said this already, but really like your energy is beautiful.

00:55:00.748 --> 00:55:11.728
<v Jaisa Engasser>we talk about this a lot around certain healers and practitioners that just have a light about them, and you have that and I, it's just, comes through so well, even virtually.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So, um,

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<v Chelsey>Thank you.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>a blessing.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

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<v Chelsey>Thank

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<v Rachael Loney>you for sharing your incredible wisdom and insight with us.

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<v Rachael Loney>'cause I know that it will help a lot of people.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yes.

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<v Chelsey>was a pleasure.

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We hope this conversation with Chelsea left you feeling inspired and empowered to tune into your body's wisdom.

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A huge thank you to Chelsea for sharing her insights and experiences with us.

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If you found this episode valuable, we'd love for you to share it with a friend who might benefit from it.

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And don't forget to check out our resourcesPage@spiritoutspoken.com, where we'll link to Chelsea's workbook so you can dive deeper into her offerings and connect with her directly.

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Looking ahead, spirit outspoken is practicing what we preach and we're taking next week off for spring break to rest, recharge, and spend time with our families.

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We'll be back on April 9th with a brand new episode and we can't wait to share it with you.

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As always, thank you for being here, and we'll see you soon.