S4E10: Jordan Lucas, UC Merced, and LOVB Finals

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Welcome to the Gay Puerto Rican podcast.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We are a gay Puerto Rican podcast now, everybody.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Welcome to it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>This is the Coach's Group Chat.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I have a I have an apology I need to need to issue.

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<v Matt Houlihan>To me?

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<v Matt Houlihan>To the gays or the Puerto Ricans?

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<v Matt Houlihan>To the gay Puerto Rican podcast community.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We recorded an episode.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Oh yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We recorded an episode.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Well, at this point you could say we recorded three.

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<v Matt Houlihan>A week ago.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Two weeks ago.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Three.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And you know, in my in my haste, and actually in my AI struggles, because I had all of my AI, has just eaten all of the storage on my computer.

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<v Matt Houlihan>My episode that we recorded didn't record the audio, but it recorded the video.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So we have a non-verbal video file.

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<v Daniel Rasay>We have a podcast with a deaf community.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We could get an ASL translation as well as like one of those people who does the voiceovers or like reads lips.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We could get you guys that episode.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But until then, I'm just gonna apologize for my technical inefficiency.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It happens once a season at least.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So Daniel, welcome to your first lost episode.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, sorry, Daniel.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I felt most I you know, Chad, I know I I feel bad for Chad, but not as bad.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But I feel bad for Daniel.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Because he he drove all this way and he has children and left his home to come be here.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And I didn't even I didn't even get the audio of children.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I also had your children for you.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, but you didn't need to drive anywhere.

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<v Daniel Rasay>You were gonna be here regardless.

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<v Daniel Rasay>The driving part is the harder part than having children.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That's for sure.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay, fine.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um we've got a great episode, everybody.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>What are we gonna talk about today?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's been a busy week.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We've got to talk about the gays.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That's that's the majority of our podcast is gonna be talking about the gays today.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And can we should we start by giving ourselves some flowers?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Matt told me right before this that uh we talked about this two months ago.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I didn't remember that we did.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>There is proof.

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<v Matt Houlihan>There is proof.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's literally posted.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But back in February, we had the conversation.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I brought up, did volleyball fumble the gays?

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<v Matt Houlihan>So look it up on YouTube.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Did volleyball fumble the gays?

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<v Matt Houlihan>And obviously the answer was yes.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Obviously.

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<v Matt Houlihan>After the the things that have transpired this week, but it was going back to the idea of heated rivalry and hockey was getting a whole gay community.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So we did talk about it, and then this weekend was the gayest weekend in all of men's volleyball.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And we are gonna let's we're let's let's uh set the scene for the people that don't know what has happened.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Please.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Would you like me to do that?

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<v Matt Houlihan>I will set the scene out of check.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I will be the scene setter and you can commentate.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Okay, okay.

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<v Matt Houlihan>All right, it is the UC Irvine versus C Sun volleyball match at UC Irvine.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Night one.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Night one.

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<v Matt Houlihan>This is big playoff implications for UC Irvine.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They need this weekend.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They gotta beat C Sun twice to make sure they're in contention for that at last.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Which they did.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Which they did.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But during this, one Jordan Lucas, who is infamously himself when playing volleyball.

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<v Matt Houlihan>He is out, he is out there and he is in your face, and he is celebrating, and he is yeah, it's been he's been doing that since he's 14, like a literal show at club volleyball tournaments since he was a little kid.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yep.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And he's doing the same thing in college, and he's been doing it while playing at a very high level.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Against USC, he hit 500 on 30 kills.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>He yeah, he had a great night one against UC Irvine during this broadcast, which you know, UC Irvine's had its own little snafu this season with some complaints about them not live streaming matches.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, one of these matches was a live stream, and the announcer on said live broadcast, Charlie Brandt, who is a Southern California legendary volleyball figure, uh, he he was frustrated with one Jordan Lucas' demeanor, and he decided that he had had enough and said after a Jordan Lucas kill where he stares down, I believe Cameron Costi, he goes, I can't believe that no one has popped Jordan Lucas yet.

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<v Matt Houlihan>His antics are unacceptable, and sure enough, some people who were listening to the live stream saw that, heard that, screen recorded it, clipped it, and very quickly the clip was circulated across social media.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yes.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Take it from here.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>There was a few uh people who commentate on men's volleyball that I had seen that had posted it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um and my I mean, my mouth dropped and I saw I heard it, and I was like, you're joking me like that.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I cannot believe that those words just came out of his mouth when when talking about this.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, I automatically was like, I think I need to say something.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I just felt very overcome with like, I need to say something here because I have a perspective on this.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, and so I just started writing my thoughts on the whole situation.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, and then I posted it that next morning.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Uh it was, it, it flew pretty quickly.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, and there was another, there was a couple people.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I think I I don't follow a ton of volleyball influencer people, um, but there was a bunch of people that commentated on this whole situation.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, I felt personally the people that had posted stuff uh were all of the gay community.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And when I have things that I go through and people that are not in my own community comment and post or say something about it, it means a lot more to me when they go out of their way to say something.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And so I felt this responsibility almost as somebody who's not in the gay community to say something because I felt like my my ability to have impact would mean more if I did say something.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Can you, just for the listeners, maybe they didn't see it from your perspective of what you wrote, can you just tell a little bit about your caption specifically?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, I mean, I just pretty much said my perspective on it is that this isn't a player of mine or a friend of mine, or I this is just somebody that I've watched for a very, very long time play volleyball.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And uh we've had plenty of matches against him.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Uh I would say that we ended his club career because we did.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We knocked him out.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We knocked him out of 18 open semifinals, like and then we went to the finals.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, we we played that team a million times.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, and I also had a conversation, and I've I've also watched the way that the culture has continued to grow over the last however many years.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And uh one of my best friends in the volleyball community and in life is gay, and he had a conversation with me at one point saying, like, this like Jordan Lucas really did change volleyball because the way that he put himself out there, it made it a comfortable place for all of the little kids that are gay to be who they are and be themselves.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And when he said that, I realized how many kids that I had I I've seen, we've called them the baby gays for a really long time.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, of like the little like boys volleyball players that all have this like community of friends that they walk around and they're all from different clubs.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Everybody knows who they are.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Like they're all from different clubs around the country, and they are hysterical.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And they just it's like this place that they go on the weekends at these club volleyball tournaments that they're like, these are my buddies, these are my friends, these are like these are my people, these are my people.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um and there have been times where like our teams are playing, and like one of the baby gays is on one of our teams, and then this whole group of other kids comes over and starts cheering for him, and it's like a whole, it's a whole thing.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, and truly that doesn't happen without Jordan Lucas and what he did.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And so my perspective on the whole thing was my perspective changed on this.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I was very confused if I liked this or not, or if this was good for the game, or if this was good for like what this really all meant until having that conversation.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And for me, that solidified that this is people that are different in the way that they do things doesn't make it wrong or bad.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It makes it, I mean, it's hard to look away from, it's very entertaining.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And I am a big advocate of things that are entertaining in the sport that make other people want to watch the sport.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And it is very apparent after what has happened this weekend that that brings visibility to volleyball.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Another account posted a highlight clip of Jordan and like a bunch of plays, like all together in celebrations and different stuff.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's over 20 million views.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I mean, celebrities.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Less than less than 48 hours.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like hit them.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like this is gonna hit the algorithm.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>This will probably hit between 30 and 40 million views on like just it's gonna keep flying here.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And there are so many people that are in the comment section just like like just being like, oh, I'd watch volleyball any day if this is what it's like.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And like there my comment section is a little bit more of a volatile comment section because it's people arguing on whether this should be allowed or not, and it there's just not as much context, and there's not as there's a lot of okay, so I'm sure there's a lot of arguing and hate in that one as well.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>But um, I do think that it's it's a I don't really know where I was going with that.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Alright, I I Daniel and Chad, obviously, I think all of us playing boys' volleyball, men's volleyball most likely have had gay teammates, openly gay teammates, or closet of gay teammates that then later came out.

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<v Matt Houlihan>From your guys' perspective, seeing this, seeing this dynamic unfold where we are currently at, A, in this day and age, but also B, just watching how volleyball has progressed over the past 10, 20 years.

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<v Matt Houlihan>In your guys' eyes, what was your what was your first thought when you saw this situation?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Assuming you guys saw this pop up on your on your algorithms at some point here.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Maybe Daniel, we can start with you.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Uh I mean, I was same same reaction when I heard the comment from Charlie.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Just like you could feel why it was said because it was something that's different, right?

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<v Daniel Rasay>Guys talk shit all the time.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah, all the time.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And they're flexing or staring down all the time, right?

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<v Daniel Rasay>And why isn't there a comment when that happens?

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<v Daniel Rasay>And so I don't know.

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<v Daniel Rasay>I i I think it's bad that he said it, but good that it brought some eyes on it.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Because you know, I've played in a handful of NAGO tournaments, and it makes me happy to see people in their community being themselves.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And at first it was uncomfortable for me because that's not my community, but it uh it was just great for me for me because I think sports needs to be something that allows people to be genuinely themselves.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And if young athletes don't feel comfortable, then they're gonna stop playing or they're just not gonna be happy in that space.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And so I think representation is really important.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And same when I play Nine Man, the the Asian guys are in their space and they feel comfortable being themselves.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And so if we can make this wonderful volleyball community inclusive of these different walks of life, I think it just makes our game so much better.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Chad, what's your thoughts?

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<v Daniel Rasay>Do you were you were you in?

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<v Chad Gordon>Do you want me to follow that eloquent statement?

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<v Chad Gordon>I mean, damn.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Do you want to pop the gay community or should we include them?

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<v Matt Houlihan>What do you think?

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<v Chad Gordon>I I would I would lean towards inclusion.

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<v Chad Gordon>I just want to feel like that's that's safer.

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<v Chad Gordon>I mean, yeah, I think I think Doc hits it on the head.

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<v Chad Gordon>Um the only thing I was thinking about is like kind of as you as we all get older and we've you know known each other for a while, like what's kind of the point of sport, and it's like you want to compete and you want to you want to grow and develop and learn these life lessons and whatever, but it's also about inclusion, people just being themselves and like having a good time.

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<v Chad Gordon>Like, and and it's okay to have disagreements and all these things, but like it's it's a unifying thing.

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<v Chad Gordon>So I I really I I don't know, I really like what Doc was saying about that.

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<v Chad Gordon>I mean, I think it just hits the nail on the head for me.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Totally.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We I mean, and uh just to hearken back to what we said before, when we talked about this two months ago, back in February, the thing that we kind of were conversing about was that volleyball has been the gay safe haven for a long time.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like people, for whatever reason, it's just been more openly acceptable to a degree.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And you can still see like this this is an example of some of the call it backwards thinking, call it bigotry, whatever you want to call it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Generational something.

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<v Matt Houlihan>There's still examples of of it being a problem, but for the most part, you volleyball has been a very active gay community, and being able to finally say and just like have some galvanizing moments like this to just say we accept that and we know that doesn't make you any person that plays volleyball.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like, I think there's a degree where like guys are afraid to say they play volleyball because people think they're gay, because it's a girl sport, right?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Because it's the girl sport, whatever it may be, only in America, right?

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<v Matt Houlihan>But in reality, right, like oh exactly, you go literally anywhere else, and volleyball is one of the most popular sports in the world, and people just need to get over it, right?

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<v Matt Houlihan>You gotta get over that image of of what it appears to be, and just understand like in every sport you play, there are also gay people, they're just more closeted because it's less accepted and they're afraid.

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<v Matt Houlihan>To go back to the point of our our friend, when our friend first started coaching volleyball, he was told to hide the fact that he was gay because it could make people feel uncomfortable.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Right.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Of coaching youth sports, of coaching, of coaching kids.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, right.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And like that's just not what we need, and that's not the way it should be.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And that's the he is one of the best coaches that we have ever had.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Correct.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Right?

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<v Matt Houlihan>And that's that's what we need.

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<v Matt Houlihan>More inclusion, doc hit the nail on the head.

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<v Matt Houlihan>All right, we're gonna hard pivot now and act like I definitely didn't have a technical difficulty.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh we're moving on to difficulty.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Is it an actual crazy statement for what just happened?

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<v Matt Houlihan>We may have recorded the entire podcast and I fucked up again and it didn't record, but we're here now.

00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:07.840
<v Chad Gordon>The intro to the pod was you like, uh, you know, my full lost episode.

00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:09.039
<v Chad Gordon>Haven't done this in a couple weeks.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>This is an ad for a technical coordinator of the coach's group chat.

00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:18.639
<v Arielle Houlihan>Like a real one, not Bob, not Bob, please.

00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:26.720
<v Arielle Houlihan>Anyone with a B name, not Matt, not just somebody who can dedicated to the craft.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Someone save us.

00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:29.919
<v Matt Houlihan>Uh save me for myself, please.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We don't know what we're doing, but honestly, it's fine.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>But let's talk about UC Merced.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Daniel's like, I need new friends.

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<v Daniel Rasay>No, I almost made a comment about I tried to save you, but two of three.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Chad, you got anything to say?

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<v Matt Houlihan>You got anything, you got anything over there?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I heard that UC Merced is the Nebraska of the armpit of UC Mercedes Nebraska's armpit.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Some people, not us, not us, we don't say this, have said that Merced is the armpit of California.

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<v Chad Gordon>We did not.

00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:06.240
<v Chad Gordon>I've only heard it.

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<v Chad Gordon>I've never said it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We have said that Merced is the Nebraska of California.

00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:12.480
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, men's volleyball.

00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:14.000
<v Matt Houlihan>Nebraska of men's volleyball.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Looking at the UC Merced matches, I've had to had to scout a couple of opponents, and they've played against UC Mercedes the weekend before.

00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:24.799
<v Matt Houlihan>They have packed their gym.

00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:29.600
<v Matt Houlihan>It's only 1,500 people that can fit in the gym, but man oh man, UCLA was standing room only.

00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.039
<v Matt Houlihan>Literally, probably illegal, the amount of people that were in there.

00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:34.720
<v Matt Houlihan>The fire marshal would have ended that event.

00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:37.200
<v Matt Houlihan>If I was Hawks, I would have called the fire marshal.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, I mean, Mercedes wins after the second set.

00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:41.679
<v Arielle Houlihan>That would have been funny.

00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:42.960
<v Matt Houlihan>Merced won the first set.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Doc Doc was what why were you watching, by the way?

00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:46.879
<v Matt Houlihan>Or did you just see it pop up?

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<v Daniel Rasay>I was just curious.

00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:53.039
<v Daniel Rasay>I was flipping back between the Stanford match and it was the easy to flip to.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Is that why?

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<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah, it was on Big Ten.

00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:55.279
<v Daniel Rasay>Big Ten.

00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:56.720
<v Daniel Rasay>So I could go multi-screen.

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<v Chad Gordon>He's a fan of the cats.

00:16:58.320 --> 00:16:58.879
<v Matt Houlihan>Those cats were like a lot.

00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:00.559
<v Daniel Rasay>I gotta do my research for this podcast, too.

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<v Matt Houlihan>All right, so let me let me just lay the groundwork of watching them, watching their matches.

00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:08.640
<v Matt Houlihan>They have done an amazing job of packing their gym.

00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:10.559
<v Matt Houlihan>This is their first year in the MPSF.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They've got they've had BYU come, they've had UCLA come.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Were you thinking packed the pit?

00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:20.960
<v Arielle Houlihan>I was thinking of how much Matt the Oh, that's that's rough.

00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:24.799
<v Arielle Houlihan>I was thinking of how many times Matt said let's lay the groundwork tonight.

00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.319
<v Matt Houlihan>I can start saying low-hanging fruit if you like my fruit.

00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:34.640
<v Matt Houlihan>What other cliches can I absolutely I have to apologize?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>This is like the funniest episode ever, but it's not gonna be funny for the listeners because the listeners are gonna be like, why is this so choppy and weird?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Don't worry, editing magic is gonna solve everything.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay.

00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:48.400
<v Matt Houlihan>Give me my 45 minutes back.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Can I just lay the groundwork one more time?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Congratulations to UC Merced, national champions.

00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:00.480
<v Daniel Rasay>This is gonna become a drinking game where people take a shot.

00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:04.160
<v Arielle Houlihan>Every time you think there's a cut and Matt messed up.

00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:06.079
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:09.279
<v Matt Houlihan>So UC Merced's the Nebraska of men's wallet ball.

00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:12.240
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, it's that official end of sentence.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Shall we now hard pivot once more?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>To love.

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<v Matt Houlihan>To love.

00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:17.680
<v Matt Houlihan>The love finals.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Ariel, you have the grace to be able to tell us.

00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:27.359
<v Arielle Houlihan>And I did do this once already, so I should take two.

00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:29.920
<v Arielle Houlihan>I should know what I'm talking about at this point.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Love finals this week in LA at the pyramid.

00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:36.559
<v Matt Houlihan>The Walter Pyramid.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Not LA.

00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:37.920
<v Arielle Houlihan>Long Beach.

00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:39.039
<v Matt Houlihan>That's Long Beach, yeah.

00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:42.880
<v Arielle Houlihan>Um the finals are between Not the Mormons.

00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:43.519
<v Chad Gordon>Salt Lake City.

00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:46.480
<v Arielle Houlihan>Salt Lake City and Austin.

00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:47.920
<v Arielle Houlihan>The Texas national team.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yep.

00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:48.640
<v Arielle Houlihan>There it is.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The Texas national team is playing the real housewives of not the Mormons.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Let me tell you.

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<v Daniel Rasay>The golden let me lay the ground there.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Oh, so you know how to speak his language.

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<v Daniel Rasay>I actually watched a golden set because we were watching the um Atlanta Austin match.

00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:17.920
<v Daniel Rasay>And I was surprised because they had talked about the series.

00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:23.920
<v Daniel Rasay>So the first match was won by Atlanta, I believe.

00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:25.039
<v Daniel Rasay>The pink team.

00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:26.160
<v Daniel Rasay>The pink team.

00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:32.240
<v Daniel Rasay>And then we were watching the second match, and then we realized they were tied 1-1.

00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:34.799
<v Daniel Rasay>Are they gonna play a third entire match for the series?

00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:35.759
<v Daniel Rasay>And said no.

00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:39.039
<v Daniel Rasay>In five minutes, we're gonna play the golden set, which is a set to 15.

00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:44.799
<v Arielle Houlihan>And then a Quidditch came on the screen and it was like And winner goes to the finals.

00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:46.079
<v Daniel Rasay>So winner take all.

00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:47.279
<v Daniel Rasay>It's kind of like a sudden death.

00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:48.079
<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah, it was.

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<v Daniel Rasay>It was a pretty good golden set.

00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:52.000
<v Daniel Rasay>The best one I've ever watched.

00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:53.119
<v Daniel Rasay>Only one you've ever watched.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And then the same thing happened in the other semifinal.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And if they play on Thursday, I think for the finals, and then they play on Saturday, and if they split it, then it's another golden set.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>What do we think about this?

00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:08.720
<v Matt Houlihan>I think it's clever.

00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:11.759
<v Matt Houlihan>It's a clever cost saving measure in my eyes.

00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:12.319
<v Matt Houlihan>Right?

00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:14.079
<v Matt Houlihan>The NBA would never allow this.

00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:18.720
<v Matt Houlihan>You but the reason why the reason why they play short baseball is the same thing, right?

00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:24.480
<v Matt Houlihan>They do the playoff, the one game playoff for the wild card, and then it's like best of five, and then it goes best of seven.

00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:24.880
<v Matt Houlihan>Yep.

00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:25.839
<v Matt Houlihan>It's cost saving.

00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:36.640
<v Matt Houlihan>So it's creative because you get one match at each, and then I believe the higher seed is the home site, so they get the golden set if it comes down to it, right?

00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:38.079
<v Matt Houlihan>So they kind of have an advantage there.

00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:51.519
<v Matt Houlihan>But also you don't have to wait another day and then travel and I wonder if ticket sales are uh higher for Saturday's game than Thursday's game.

00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:53.839
<v Arielle Houlihan>They're five dollars for Thursday's game and sale.

00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:58.000
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, if I if I if I went to the first game, I'm like, I want to where's my discount?

00:20:58.079 --> 00:20:58.960
<v Matt Houlihan>I want a little refund.

00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:00.880
<v Matt Houlihan>I got I got a whole less set of volleyball.

00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:04.000
<v Matt Houlihan>Or it's just it's just baked in.

00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:09.039
<v Matt Houlihan>No, but it's I do like that it just creates it's the hockey, it's the hockey sudden death.

00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:12.000
<v Matt Houlihan>There's just there's just a an aspect that makes it.

00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:14.160
<v Arielle Houlihan>It's like the crossover.

00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:14.880
<v Matt Houlihan>Yes.

00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:19.680
<v Matt Houlihan>We all hate the crossover, but you love the crossover at the same time when you win it.

00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:21.839
<v Matt Houlihan>So we like it.

00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:22.640
<v Matt Houlihan>We're fans.

00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:25.440
<v Matt Houlihan>Can I talk about what I'm not a fan of?

00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:26.799
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah.

00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:29.920
<v Matt Houlihan>I'm not a fan of love's names.

00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:30.960
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, me neither.

00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:32.799
<v Matt Houlihan>We gotta get we gotta we gotta switch this.

00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:34.720
<v Matt Houlihan>We need to change it now.

00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:39.440
<v Matt Houlihan>Give me an actual pro sports franchise name so that I can get behind something.

00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:46.240
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, I don't like the reinventing of the wheel with the pro this pro sports model for love.

00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:48.640
<v Arielle Houlihan>I think that's what the MLV has going for it.

00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:50.319
<v Arielle Houlihan>That it's like there's a draft.

00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:55.440
<v Arielle Houlihan>There's like people own the teams and they actually own them.

00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:59.839
<v Arielle Houlihan>With love, it's like they're making all the decisions for all these teams right now.

00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:05.759
<v Arielle Houlihan>And they're spreading the wealth and they're placing the players and they're the like there's no they're moving towards that.

00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:06.720
<v Arielle Houlihan>They're moving towards it.

00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:14.559
<v Arielle Houlihan>And until they move, until they're actually at that place, I think that's where there will be like some real interesting things happening with it.

00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:42.000
<v Matt Houlihan>But right now it it's all scrimmage like I just yeah, I didn't understand the one flaw I I saw from it was if we're if you're planning on getting to that already from a branding perspective, why not just do the branding up front so that there's this entrenched you're building a relationship all of a sudden I agree like all of these matches do have a degree where it feels like a scrimmage, it feels like a scrimmage rather than team versus team, my city versus your city.

00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:43.440
<v Matt Houlihan>It's a different dynamic.

00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:45.200
<v Arielle Houlihan>But we're the I guess we'll get there.

00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:46.880
<v Arielle Houlihan>We don't need to like criticize everything.

00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:49.359
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, we know I there's so many good things that they're doing.

00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:49.839
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah.

00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:52.960
<v Matt Houlihan>You know, I I'm a I'm a fan of many things and many degrees.

00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:53.440
<v Matt Houlihan>Sure.

00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:55.759
<v Matt Houlihan>But a guy can nitpick, you know?

00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:57.839
<v Matt Houlihan>We it's okay to call balls and strikes here.

00:22:57.920 --> 00:22:58.640
<v Matt Houlihan>I'd call that a ball.

00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:03.839
<v Matt Houlihan>Ball by them, strike by the Omaha supernovos, because they keep on selling everything out.

00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:06.640
<v Arielle Houlihan>And a 25-year-old is running that team right now.

00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:07.200
<v Arielle Houlihan>That's pretty funny.

00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:08.400
<v Matt Houlihan>Shout out to that guy, right?

00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:09.599
<v Arielle Houlihan>Give more 25 years old.

00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:11.599
<v Matt Houlihan>Daniel's 25.

00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:14.240
<v Arielle Houlihan>Give more 25-year-olds head coaching jobs.

00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:16.720
<v Matt Houlihan>I was 25 when I took over Beta Bay.

00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:17.599
<v Arielle Houlihan>You were 22.

00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:18.880
<v Matt Houlihan>I was 22.

00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:20.319
<v Matt Houlihan>I was less than.

00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:21.759
<v Matt Houlihan>See?

00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:27.759
<v Arielle Houlihan>You weren't ready to do that, but are we ready for anything?

00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:28.400
<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah.

00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:31.759
<v Matt Houlihan>Is there ever really a good time or a bad time?

00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:34.160
<v Matt Houlihan>No.

00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:39.680
<v Arielle Houlihan>The question is, did we record this podcast?

00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:40.480
<v Matt Houlihan>No.

00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:44.400
<v Matt Houlihan>Well, we need to get to the wedding update.

00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:45.759
<v Arielle Houlihan>Oh, yeah, the wedding web date.

00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:53.119
<v Matt Houlihan>So now that Chad has had a chance to rehearse, like the rehearsal dinner, he's gonna be even better at his wedding web date.

00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:54.319
<v Matt Houlihan>Chad, ready, set.

00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:55.599
<v Matt Houlihan>Whoa.

00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:56.240
<v Matt Houlihan>Whoa.

00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:05.119
<v Chad Gordon>Uh, like was mentioned about 15 minutes ago, no update because we're waiting on waiting.

00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:07.039
<v Chad Gordon>I'm like, wait, that's actually the word.

00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:08.960
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, that's how you say that, yeah.

00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:13.599
<v Chad Gordon>Waiting on the when you uh to get back to us because it's a little bit more old timey.

00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.839
<v Chad Gordon>Uh so we're kind of in a holding pattern.

00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.960
<v Chad Gordon>We have sent the carrier pigeons and the faxes and all this kind of stuff.

00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:21.920
<v Chad Gordon>Uh, message in the bottle comes up next week.

00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:23.920
<v Chad Gordon>So no updates yet.

00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:26.720
<v Chad Gordon>Lacey's going back to New York uh in a month or so.

00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:28.000
<v Arielle Houlihan>I might be going with her.

00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:31.359
<v Chad Gordon>She might be joined by somebody, uh special guest.

00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:37.039
<v Chad Gordon>But unfortunately, right now, until you kind of have that date in that venue, kind of it's a blocker, as they say.

00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:37.759
<v Chad Gordon>P0.

00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:39.680
<v Chad Gordon>Do you have a Pinterest board going?

00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:41.279
<v Chad Gordon>I do not have a Pinterest board going.

00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:41.680
<v Chad Gordon>Why not?

00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:44.160
<v Arielle Houlihan>I have a question about the wedding web date.

00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:45.039
<v Chad Gordon>Wedding what yeah, yeah.

00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:46.640
<v Arielle Houlihan>Where's the bachelor party?

00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:47.440
<v Arielle Houlihan>I don't know.

00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:49.119
<v Arielle Houlihan>When is the bachelor party?

00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:50.000
<v Arielle Houlihan>I don't know.

00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:52.880
<v SPEAKER_04>Why is the bachelor party?

00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:53.519
<v Matt Houlihan>I don't know.

00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:55.680
<v SPEAKER_04>Should you there be a bachelor party?

00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:56.160
<v SPEAKER_04>I don't know.

00:24:56.720 --> 00:24:56.880
<v Matt Houlihan>Come on.

00:24:57.279 --> 00:24:58.079
<v Matt Houlihan>Yes is the answer.

00:24:58.240 --> 00:24:58.799
<v Matt Houlihan>Absolutely.

00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:00.000
<v Matt Houlihan>There's a bachelor party.

00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:01.039
<v Matt Houlihan>Alangie's on it.

00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:05.200
<v Chad Gordon>We have a just tell Elonji he's in charge and he will he will plan it all.

00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:07.920
<v Chad Gordon>Elonji knows I just want to like drink beers and hang out with you guys anyway.

00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:09.279
<v Chad Gordon>Like it's not that it's really a player.

00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:13.920
<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay, so we are volunteering Bob to plan Chad's bachelor party.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Sold.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Deal.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Done.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It might be at the San Jose Giants game.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It might not be.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Who knows?

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<v Matt Houlihan>It might be in Puerto Rico.

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<v Chad Gordon>I love a spontaneous gigante on a Tuesday afternoon.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>In Merced.

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<v Chad Gordon>I feel like the Nebraska of men's volleyball is a great place for your joke that they missed from an hour ago that we didn't have anymore was that the Bobcat is the gateway cat.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It is.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The gateway to Yosemite is Merced.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That's a problem.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And Chad and I do love a good trip to Yosemite.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So there's many options that we have here.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Love Merced.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Nebraska.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That's the name.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That should be the theme of your bachelor party.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Love Merced.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Hello, VB, Merced.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's the first league.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I'll get on the shirts.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That's funny.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Can we go home now?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Another rousing episode that was officially recorded.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, we'll see.

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<v Matt Houlihan>At least right now, that will be posted.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Hopefully.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Thanks for coming to our gay Puerto Rican podcast.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We'll be back next week with more.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The La Vida Loca.

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<v Matt Houlihan>More or less.