Penn State Defeats Louisville 3-1 to Win 2024 NCAA Women's Volleyball Championship

Volley Talk with Sarah Pavan

In this episode of Volley Talk, we talk about the NCAA Women's Volleyball Final Four. We do deep dives into all of the matches from the weekend, including Pitt vs Louisville, Penn State vs Nebraska, and the big Penn State vs Louisville final!

A huge congrats to Penn State on earning their 8th National Championship!

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Hi volleyball fans and welcome back to Volley Talk, the podcast created for volleyball lovers

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who want to dig deep into what is going on in NCAA and international volleyball.

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I'm your host Sarah Pavin, I'm an Olympian, beach volleyball world champion, former Nebraska

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Cornhusker and longtime pro both indoor and on the beach.

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And I'm Adam Schultz, former indoor player, international volleyball coach and the resident

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stat guy here on the podcast.

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An NCAA women's volleyball champion has been crowned and the final four was nothing if

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not incredibly exciting and historic.

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The matches in Louisville will be our focus today, but we've got to take a look at the

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All Americans obviously and a little bit more.

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It is going to be a jam packed episode, so let's get started.

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First things first, congratulations to Penn State, the 2024 NCAA women's volleyball champions.

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They defeated Louisville in four in a really exciting match.

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Now before we get into the games, we also ran two brackets for the championship.

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So shout out to Nittany Hopeful, who won the better bracket draft.

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They had Penn State pit final and finished with 97 points, so you were close.

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The second place person had 96 points, so that bracket came down to the wire.

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Squeaked it out.

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Gabriel Sundberg won our ESPN challenge with 1340 points, the next closest was 1160, so

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that one definitely was not close.

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Gabriel was the only person who picked Penn State to win and because of that ran away

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with the title.

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So congrats to both of our winners.

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We really appreciate everybody who participated.

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We had a lot of fun and I'm already hoping I do better next year.

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I'm upset.

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I did very poorly as well.

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I will give a begrudging congratulations to the winners because I like to win a lot.

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No, just kidding.

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Congrats thanks to everybody who joined us.

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Believe it or not, there has been other volleyball going on the last few weeks and the club volleyball

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world championships for both men and women have been happening.

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On the men's side, Sata Cruzero from Brazil won.

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They beat Trentino Itas, 3-1 in the final.

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So now those two teams are tied for the most club world championship titles ever.

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And fun fact, Adam actually coached against Sata Cruzero when we lived in Brazil.

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Adam worked for the team in Rio and Wallacy is still playing for them.

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You've got to be kidding.

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He has been there forever.

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He is 37 years old now and pretty sure he has been part of every single one of those

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five world championships.

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The man does not age, I'm telling you.

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He was unbelievable 14 years ago when we were there.

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That's insane.

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On the women's side, Imoko Valle Conigliano won.

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They beat Tianjin Bohai Bank 3-0 in the final.

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I mean, no shock there.

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I would say Conigliano is stacked.

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They have been for many years now.

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There you go.

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A little taste of the outside world and we will be diving more into the professional

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side of things in the new year.

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So just wanted to give a little update on that end.

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Just for people who might not be familiar, Conigliano is an Italian team, correct?

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It is.

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It was actually my first pro team ever.

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Oh, interesting.

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So it all runs back through you is what you're saying.

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I mean, basically.

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I'm just kidding.

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And Tianjin is a Chinese team, correct?

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Tianjin is a Chinese team.

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Tianjin, they were very good back when I played for Shanghai as well.

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So overall, very good volleyball to be had.

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On the men's side, if I didn't mention it, Trentino is an Italian team.

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Exciting nonetheless.

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And I actually got to play in a club world championships when I was playing indoor.

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My Brazilian team came second.

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Fun facts for you today.

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Now that we've given you the update around the world, let us get into what everybody

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wants to talk about.

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Final four time, baby.

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Thursday was a write off.

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What a great day.

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I think we watched volleyball from three o'clock till 10 o'clock.

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Again, being on the West Coast, it's perfect.

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I hope my boss isn't listening to this.

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But where do you want to start?

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I'm thinking Pitt Louisville, which is going order.

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Yes.

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All right.

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What were your overall thoughts of that match?

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My initial thoughts watching that match, Pitt came out unconscious.

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They were outstanding.

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And I looked at you and I was like, if this continues, this is going to be very quick

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work.

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Bloodbath.

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It did not continue.

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I would say Pitt was unconscious for a set and a half.

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Then they became human.

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They gave up a huge lead in the second.

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Had a massive lead at the end of set three.

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I think they were up like 23, 19, gave it away, could not close it.

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And the rest is history.

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I thought Olivia Babcock played very well.

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The wheels fell off starting with their setter, Rachel Fairbanks.

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I thought she made questionable choices when it mattered.

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And I think her execution, set location, whatever was not as good as it had to be.

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And I was very surprised.

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I would agree with you that things started with Fairbanks, but I'm going to go back a

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little bit further.

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I think her set selection was affected from the first set when Babcock was unconscious.

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Well, so was Stafford though.

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Fair enough.

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But Babcock scored nine points, had nine kills in that first set.

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She was unstoppable.

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And I think the problem for me watching it was she just thought or wanted to feed the

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hot player in Babcock and Stafford.

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And she didn't get her middles going.

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And that continued.

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Bree Kelly is an important part of that offense.

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And she only got 16 sets the whole game.

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And for me watching that, I don't know whether it was game plan, whether it was discussed,

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but she went to those two hitters, Stafford and Babcock too often.

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She didn't mix it up.

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And Louisville being a great blocking team started to get a rhythm, started to find the

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block and started to be able to slow them down after that first set.

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And she needed to establish the middle of the court more.

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I can't disagree with that.

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I mean, when I look at what happened from 2319 in the third until the end of the set,

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it was just like Babcock over and over and over and over again.

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Like you are right in that.

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And I think she should have gone to somebody else.

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I mean, Babcock scored her points, but made some errors, got blocked a few times.

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I think, but that comes back to the decision making for me.

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I think there were opportunities in that run and I know I'm fixating on one run, but there

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were opportunities in that run to run the middle and she didn't until it was too late.

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Even in the set two, they were up what like 16-12 and then Louisville came back as well.

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That was more hitting errors, wasn't it?

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Correct.

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So I don't know.

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You just, I understand how it feels to be ranked at the top all year and then to all

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of a sudden like come up against a team that is pushing you and in the biggest moment and

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not rising to the occasion, I would say three out of my four years at Nebraska that happened.

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So I get it.

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And it just like broke my heart to see it because to put that kind of body of work together

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that they did all year to have it end like that, it was, it was, I was sad watching it.

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I thought, you know, Tori Stafford played very well defensively, particularly when they

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had her playing in position one running Babcock on the pipe.

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I can't say that pit just like threw the match away because that's doing Louisville a disservice.

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I think Louisville ran their middle more often than we have seen and successfully.

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I think PK Kong was very good.

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I think Cressy scored very well.

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And we said coming into the final four, they're going to have to establish their middles.

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They're going to have to get them going.

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And it really helped kind of balance the load.

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I was very impressed with Maldonado Diaz.

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I think she had picked up her performance significantly, especially during the tournament.

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Louisville showed up.

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If pit is playing the way they did in that first set, there's nothing anybody can do.

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Quite frankly.

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It's unbelievable how on they were.

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But to Louisville's credit, they didn't roll over.

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Even when that momentum continued for pit in set two, they found a way to push back

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and they played well.

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To me, that was the most impressive thing.

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And I couldn't tell.

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I think it was a combination.

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I think maybe there were a little bit of nerves there for Louisville being at home with the

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crowd and not even bad nerves, just excited, not settling into the match.

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And then pit came out guns blazing.

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It would have been really easy for them to unravel or get frazzled in that situation.

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And again, started down big in the second set, found a way to push back.

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I was impressed specifically with Cressy and De Beer from a leadership standpoint.

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They each made plays.

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They settled things down.

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You could see them really leading the team through the little things.

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I thought Cressy did a great job of getting off the net and being available for attacks

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to kind of opening up the outside attacks for the other Louisville hitters.

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She to me was the reason that they won.

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And the other players played well.

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Don't get me wrong there.

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Outside hitters did well.

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PK was good.

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De Beers obviously clutch and did great things.

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Looper was good.

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But Cressy is kind of the linchpin there that opens everything up in my opinion when she's

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on and she's an amazing blocker.

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Like Louisville out blocked Pitt 12 to 4.

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And Louisville's blocking got better as the match went on.

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As they realized that Pitt was not using their middle and they were only setting two hitters,

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they made life difficult for Torrey and for Babcock.

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And I thought that was a huge difference in the match.

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And also the serving pressure.

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They had eight aces to Pitt's two.

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And specifically from the service line to me, it looked like Pitt was just trying to

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get the ball in and not lose or not be aggressive.

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And Louisville was going after their serves.

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And you could see that mindset shift throughout the match of Pitt not wanting to lose the

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momentum and the way they were playing and being a little more safe.

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And Louisville kept pushing and pushing and pushing.

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I think you saw the pushing from a service pressure standpoint, particularly in set four.

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They absolutely dismantled Pitt's serve receive.

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I mean, obviously you're gaining confidence coming back from down 23-19 and winning that

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set.

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So obviously you have gained confidence, but you could just see that that kind of like

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helped them add a little more from the service line and Pitt could not handle it.

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They just completely fell apart.

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People after that set three win just dismantled them, I thought, in set four.

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Well, it's interesting.

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The thing I noticed from Vasquez Gomez, who they served a whole bunch, was she stopped

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moving her feet.

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She got really squatty in her pass where she would just kind of drop and try and get her

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body in the right angle instead of moving her hip out of the way or attacking the pass.

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She was waiting for the ball to get on her.

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And that's where it kind of broke down from what I saw for her specifically.

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Well, and you just saw the communication decrease for Pitt and increase for Louisville.

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And I mean, it's typical, particularly from younger athletes.

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I understand that these are women there, but they are younger in the grand scheme of things.

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And you know, the momentum and the ebbs and flows of the match, you could see it affect

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the communication levels, the way the body language, et cetera.

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It came about, the pressure showed itself in different ways.

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I do want to give a shout out to Danny Busboom Kelly for completely vacating the system that

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they have run all season when their backs were against the wall and going into a 5-1.

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That is ballsy.

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The system that got you to the final four, the system that helped you be successful all

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season, the system that you thought was the best option for your team when the chips were

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down in the most important match of the season, she flipped the script and it paid off.

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This will come up again in the Nebraska Penn State game, but I have such an appreciation

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for a coach who is willing to make changes.

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You don't see it too often among the top, top teams, especially at that point in the

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season.

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But I have a lot of respect that she was willing to go for it and shout out to Cabello, a true

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freshman setter.

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I didn't see her crack.

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I think that's a great point.

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And it was something I was thinking about from pit side as I was watching them.

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You could see the demons sinking in, in the third and fourth set where they started to

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think about, man, are we going to lose another semifinal?

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Because it has happened, I believe this was the fourth time.

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They needed to adjust something.

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They needed to just say, hey, run the middle no matter what, or sub one player out, let

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somebody relax.

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The whole team almost looked shell shocked that it wasn't working.

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And the crazy thing is if you look at the numbers, if you take pits, three outside hitters,

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they hit 325 on the match.

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They played well enough to win.

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And that's compared to Louisville's outside hitters hitting 270.

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Which also wasn't bad.

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No, it's not bad.

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They played well enough to win, but the thing for me was Louisville found the little pieces

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of the game where they could gain an advantage, whether it was on the serving, whether it

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was on the block, whether it was making plays down the stretch, making adjustments.

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That to me was a team win.

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Staff players included, they kept going.

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And it was surprising because I think pitch should have won that game.

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You got to tip your cap to a team that's willing to make adjustments and take risks to win.

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It was a very entertaining match.

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I felt my heart kind of sink when Anna DeBeer went down in set four.

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They showed her parents and her dad was crying.

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And I think I started crying seeing that.

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I cannot imagine being in that position as a senior.

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You're playing in your hometown.

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It's the end of your career.

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And that happens.

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My heart broke for her.

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You never, you never want to see that.

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She has worked so hard and obviously we don't know her.

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But all of the players have worked so hard, but it's like the, yeah.

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But you can see that she's the rock and the leader and everybody looks up to her.

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And to lose that player for the team, I think is, is really hard.

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But I was incredibly impressed with the freshmen that came in for her.

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Peyton Peterson.

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Yeah.

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Shout out for sure.

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She did her job and allowed them to keep going.

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And I honestly, I thought when that happened, that Pitt was going to be able to roll the

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momentum back and win the match from there.

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I said, I, I saw that happen and I saw her go off and go to the locker room.

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And I thought this was what Pitt needed to have a reset and come back and win.

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And to Louisville's credit, they hung in there and they kept going for their captain.

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It was impressive to see.

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I love to see teams dig deep like that when an injury like that happens, like you that

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team sports are so beautiful in that sense.

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And that like everybody just found something extra that they could give.

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And Peyton Peterson, she didn't have time to think about it.

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She didn't have time to think about how nervous she was, et cetera.

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She came in, she served a couple of aces, she got several digs, she got the match winning

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point, like excellent.

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As a freshman, if you have to play on a stage that day, having no notice is the best option.

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100% just like surprise.

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The longer they have to think about it, the worse it becomes, I think.

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And we'll talk about this in the final, but I thought that was going to really hurt them

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because she had two days to think about it.

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Yeah.

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I think for me it was a well played match.

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I mean, Pittsburgh's hitters were great.

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Olivia Babcock played well enough for her team to win.

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It was the little things around the ball, the blocking, the serving, the setting decisions

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in my mind that made the difference in that match.

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All right.

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Let's move on to the second semifinal, Penn State versus Nebraska.

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Hit me with your thoughts.

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I'm not sure where to start because I think I could talk about this match for an hour.

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To be transparent, we had to go back and watch it again because the first time we were just

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so stunned and overwhelmed that we ended up watching it more as fans than as like critiquers.

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I don't even know if that's a word.

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I think analyst is what you're looking for.

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Or that simple stuff.

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So we did go back and watch it again.

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For me, this match came down to two things.

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One, we've talked all season about Nebraska not having a star on the outside who could

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carry the team.

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And I thought that in this match, that was incredibly evident.

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You know, the outsides for Nebraska didn't play poorly, but they don't have somebody

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on that team who can drive them to win other than Andy Jackson.

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And that team won and lost with how effective she was and how much they could get her the

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ball.

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And at the end of the game, being sets three, four and five, they didn't get her the ball

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and they didn't win.

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And the second thing I will say, and we'll dive into all of this and I've got some interesting

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stats for everybody out there.

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I think they took their foot off the gas.

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I think in the fourth set, they thought they were going to win.

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You could see it on the coaching staff's face.

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You could see it on the players face.

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They were thinking about going to the national championship.

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All the credit in the world to Penn State.

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They never stopped coming no matter what.

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And overarching of everything, that was the most impressive.

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They never gave up.

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Andy Jackson was dominant in sets one and two.

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The best player in the gym.

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And the results spoke for themselves.

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Nebraska actually unbalanced their offense, kind of, for the first time all season.

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And we're just feeding Jackson.

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And I was like, you know what?

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Finally.

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Finally, you have got a hot hand and you are feeding it.

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Thank you.

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This is what you need to do.

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11 kills, no errors in the first two sets.

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She was unconscious and unstoppable.

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She was unstoppable.

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And as we have said, as we have spoken about Nebraska throughout the past few months, it

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opened everything else up for the other hitters.

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So people were able to kind of get going.

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I thought in sets one and two, Penn State was tipping too much.

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In particular, Jess Merzik.

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I thought she was tipping too frequently to her.

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And I said at the end of set two, if she's going to go down, she better go down swinging.

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Well, she was hitting under a hundred in the first two sets.

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Yes.

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She was a non-factor in the match.

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And to her credit, I don't think I saw her tip again in sets three, four, and five.

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And I think she finished the match, what, at 300?

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Correct.

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She went from 094, I believe it was, at the end of set two and finished the match hitting

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300.

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That is how she got Penn State to this point.

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She put her team on her back all season.

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And when she was tipping in sets one and two, I was really upset because I'm like, we've

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seen this story before at the end of big 10 play.

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I had so much respect for her that she just completely was like, no, this is not how this

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is ending.

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And just took over.

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She was unbelievable.

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My advice to her, she starts her pro career is to have a two set warmup from here on out

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because that girl gets better as the match goes on and she finishes matches playing her

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best volleyball.

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And I'm kind of joking, but I'm kind of not because you saw it in both matches, in this

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one and in the final.

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She didn't start super well, but man, when the game was on the line, as she kept going,

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she was the best player by the end of the match.

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Her and Andy Jackson flip flopped.

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Yes.

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And it's not by any fault of Andy Jackson.

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To Penn State's credit, I think they started serving a lot better and you saw Nebraska's

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passing fall apart a little and like fall apart in the sense of it wasn't nearly as

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good as it usually is.

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Falling apart passing wise for Nebraska is you should still be able to run the middle.

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I thought it was more decision than passing to be honest.

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Oh, you do?

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Yeah.

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I thought at the end of set four, the passing was terrible.

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I think the little, the littles for Nebraska killed them down the stretch.

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That might be a hot take.

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Come at me.

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I'm fine with that.

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But you saw Lexi Rodriguez set her hitters very poorly.

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I usually think that Lexi is a pretty good out of system setter.

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She was trap setting her hitters when Bergen Riley was digging and then she tried to correct

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it and they were way too far off.

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So there's that, Choboy and Rodriguez got aced down the stretch in set four and I think

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they were pulling the passes a little too far off.

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Malk, who they rely on as their main serve scoring rotation looked like she saw a ghost.

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Understandable.

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She's a freshman.

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You know, there were stretches in that four sets specifically.

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I remember we talked about this where fine, maybe they couldn't run Andy behind, but they

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had chances in the third set to run her more.

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They could have run her more at the beginning of the four set.

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They didn't pass horribly in the fifth set and they only set Andy Jackson twice.

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It was a combination in my opinion.

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There was some passing issues and they obviously weren't as in system, but you can force the

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middle.

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Andy Jackson is physical enough that you can get her the ball and she can run behind and

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in front audible out and run a 30 run close.

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She is so dynamic.

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She should have been able to score and they needed to get her the ball.

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But at the end of the day, I mean, I'm going to stand by what I'm saying.

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Like with the transition setting, Nebraska digs a lot of balls.

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A, I don't love how they defended Jess Merzik once she really got going.

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And B, when they did get digs, I thought the out of system setting was not good enough

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to be able to score.

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And then when it was the hitters weren't going up and being really aggressive for me, Penn

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State won the outside hitter battle.

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They won the out of system battle.

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They won the we're going down swinging battle.

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Like they didn't give up.

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They left it all on the court and I'm very curious what Nebraska's postgame chat in their

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locker room was.

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Well, you talk about that.

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So here are some numbers for you in the third set.

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We're going to go all positions left side and right side for these stats.

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In the third set, Penn State's outside hitters generated 13 kills to Nebraska's eight.

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In set four, it was 17 kills to seven.

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And in set five, it was nine to seven, which is closer.

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But the interesting thing for me as well is if we look at set four, Penn State only tipped

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four balls as an outside core, Nebraska tipped eight.

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And so to me, you could see the mindset of the hitters go from scoring points to not

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making mistakes.

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Those stats, I did them myself, but they don't include bad sets where they had to put them

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over.

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Those were decisions where you could have hit the ball and you chose to tip.

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And that to me, Penn State's ability to score points from the pins made a huge difference,

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especially when Nebraska stopped running their middle.

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Nebraska's up 24-22 in the fourth match point, two match points.

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You get a perfect pass, Bergen-Riley, and you have Harper-Murray and Rebecca Alec in

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the front row.

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And you decide to set Rebecca Alec who tips the ball.

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You tipped the ball on match point on a perfect pass.

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I mean, need I say anything else?

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First of all, what are you doing even setting her?

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Set Harper-Murray.

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Okay.

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And secondly, this is why Penn State won.

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Because they hit the ball, because they took big rips, because they were being risky.

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They took those risks and it paid off.

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You're telling me you think tipping a ball is going to win you a national championship,

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is going to get you to the final?

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It's not, clearly.

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My hands are sweating even talking about it.

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I mean, you can look at that play in isolation and I don't disagree with you, but at the

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same time, you needed Beeson to factor in offensively as well.

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Beeson?

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Oh boy.

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What happened to her?

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In fairness to Beeson, she did most things well except hit, which as a right side is

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your primary responsibility.

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I thought she served well.

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I thought she blocked all right.

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She played defense.

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All of the skills around attacking, she was fine.

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But they needed her to score more points.

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She only had eight points and hit 2-0-7 on that match.

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And I'm sorry, when you don't have a stud attacker and you rely on scoring points as

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a committee, you have to be able to pull your weight.

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And she didn't.

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And she hasn't all tournament.

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This is one of the things we don't see anybody else from Nebraska play.

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So I don't know who's on their bench, but put somebody else in through the front row.

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Find the kid with the heaviest arm and go just go out and swing for three rotations.

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Do something.

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I don't understand why she played the whole time.

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That is something that I was referring to when I made the statement of like, you need

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to make a change sometimes.

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And we saw it from Nebraska last year in the national championship match.

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I'm sorry, Harper Murray got served off the court.

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She should have been subbed out in that match last season.

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Didn't happen.

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Mara Beeson disappeared during the NCAA tournament.

473
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,920
Did not produce at all.

474
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,640
She should have been subbed out.

475
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,360
They should have tried something different, but they didn't.

476
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:14,880
They just stick with what they do.

477
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,880
And that is that.

478
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:21,840
Honestly, I was so shocked when landfare actually replaced Crowzee partway through the season.

479
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,240
I think it needed to happen.

480
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,120
But because of what we have seen from Nebraska, I was shocked that they actually made a change.

481
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:30,560
So here's an observation.

482
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,380
We watched a decent number of Nebraska games.

483
00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:41,000
I think Nebraska is probably one of the most prepared teams for matches that they play,

484
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,720
but maybe one of the worst at deviating from their preparation.

485
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,880
Well, they haven't had to.

486
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,880
That's the thing.

487
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,160
I'm not saying you're wrong.

488
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,720
I am not saying you're wrong, but they have been able to get by on the game plans they

489
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,080
have.

490
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,760
If I was Nebraska, what would I have done?

491
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:03,720
I would have completely shut down the line on Jess Merzic and brought both defenders,

492
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,280
Rodriguez and the left side blocker off to dig the sharp angle.

493
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,300
Both of them load up the angle.

494
00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:15,160
We saw Louisville do it against them and they actually got quite a few digs or bring the

495
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,520
ball, bring the block way into the angle and dig down the line.

496
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,400
They just kept setting up on the ball, the same that's taking away the seam over and

497
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,280
over and over again.

498
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,020
Because you need to make adjustments.

499
00:28:29,020 --> 00:28:31,580
You need to try something new.

500
00:28:31,580 --> 00:28:32,580
And they didn't.

501
00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:38,080
But going back to Penn State, Jura Vicious picked some great times to have outstanding

502
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,080
matches.

503
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,020
She's going for it.

504
00:28:41,020 --> 00:28:42,440
She knows her role.

505
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,000
Jess Merzic flipped the switch, went for it.

506
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,000
It paid off.

507
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,880
Cameron Hanna, fearless, made great plays.

508
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:58,360
You know, it was so good to see Penn State regroup and rally and just keep coming.

509
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,040
And you saw Nebraska start to think and they just kept pushing.

510
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,240
You know, I have a lot of respect for that.

511
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,720
It is tough to be down 2-0 and come back to win.

512
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,560
It is tough, especially on that stage.

513
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,640
And they believed.

514
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,960
I think the impressive thing for me was their game plan was to be aggressive.

515
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,480
You could see it in everything they did.

516
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,360
Their serving, they made a ton of mistakes.

517
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,500
I think they had 14 service errors, but they kept coming.

518
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:35,360
But down the stretch, those errors became aces.

519
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,400
And this to me was the difference in the game.

520
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,720
I don't know if I have all the numbers right off the top of my head, but I believe in the

521
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,920
second set as a team, they made 11 errors.

522
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,240
And they lost.

523
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,680
But when they settled down and came out in the third, fourth, and fifth, they played

524
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,880
the same way, but they settled into their style.

525
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,320
They found where the block was going to be.

526
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,800
They found a rhythm and they reduced those errors.

527
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,740
And I think it was 11 in the second, maybe two in the third.

528
00:30:05,740 --> 00:30:07,240
They were flawless in the third.

529
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,160
They made more in the fourth set.

530
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,400
But then in the fifth set, again, I think they made one or two errors as a team.

531
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:20,120
And they found a rhythm and made some adjustments and Nebraska didn't match them in that regard.

532
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,200
Penn State played to win.

533
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:28,280
I thought Nebraska played to win the first two sets and then got a little tentative and

534
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,300
were afraid to push over the line.

535
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:32,000
And maybe that's set selection.

536
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,000
Maybe that's tight setting, serving.

537
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,200
I thought they, for me watching, to me, it looked like they thought they had it in the

538
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,820
bag personally.

539
00:30:40,820 --> 00:30:42,040
Do I know that for a fact?

540
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,040
No.

541
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,040
They were very relaxed in that interview between sets two and three.

542
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,240
Well, to me, the first assistant.

543
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,720
Oh, Reyes?

544
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,360
Reyes' body language changed.

545
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,760
In the second set, he was jumping up and down.

546
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,880
He was like screaming louder than the players.

547
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,880
I'm sorry.

548
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:00,880
Fist pumping.

549
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,000
Like, let's be professional here.

550
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,000
That was weird.

551
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,520
But my point was he was excited.

552
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,840
He was in the match emotionally invested.

553
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,840
And that's fine.

554
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,680
Maybe that's your style, you know, you've played for some coaches who...

555
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,680
Rip their shirts off.

556
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,720
Yeah, I wasn't going to say that, but that's exactly what I was thinking of.

557
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,240
But the thing is, it's the same all the time.

558
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,980
And when your coach changes like that, and we talked about this with some other coaching

559
00:31:27,980 --> 00:31:29,280
staffs in previous episodes.

560
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,600
Yeah, we have brought it up, so it's fair.

561
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:38,960
He all of the sudden was hunkered down on his feet underneath the side of the court,

562
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,200
and he looked nervous.

563
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,680
And I said it, and I'll say it again, these are young athletes.

564
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,080
They look to their coach, and I think Penn State is a great example of that.

565
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:54,420
I have an incredible amount of respect for her.

566
00:31:54,420 --> 00:32:00,760
She showed up for her team day in and day out when she didn't have to, and nobody could

567
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,240
have blamed her.

568
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,240
And you know what?

569
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,040
When the chips were down, her athletes showed up for her.

570
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,440
She's just so calm on the sideline, she never changes.

571
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,360
Coach Cook doesn't change, he sits there, but...

572
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,960
I saw one fist bump.

573
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:22,940
So he's pretty consistent, but Reyes is the one that's moving the pieces around in match,

574
00:32:22,940 --> 00:32:24,000
you can tell.

575
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,180
But Katie Schumacher-Colley, she is just there.

576
00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:32,220
Her body language, it looks like her feedback doesn't change.

577
00:32:32,220 --> 00:32:37,620
From sets one and two, where it wasn't pretty, to three, four, five, there was definitely

578
00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:41,480
some more urgency, but it wasn't a drastic shift.

579
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,400
And that was an incredible match to watch.

580
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,720
Again, my heart broke for Nebraska because I have been there.

581
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:56,680
I get it, I understand it is the worst feeling in the world to be ranked that high all season

582
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,160
and not finish the job.

583
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,600
Kuda has off to Penn State, has off to Jess Merzuch.

584
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,120
Wow, that was something to behold.

585
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:14,200
Before we jump into the final match, the AVCA selection committee picked their All-Americans

586
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,240
this week as well.

587
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,440
Izzy Stark was named National Freshman of the Year.

588
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,040
Olivia Babcock, National Player of the Year.

589
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,320
Dan Fisher from Pitt, National Coach of the Year.

590
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,440
And Brian Rosen from Creighton was named the Assistant Coach of the Year.

591
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:38,840
What are your thoughts on those individual big time winners?

592
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,760
I honestly don't have any problems with any of those.

593
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:49,520
I think Izzy Stark, we've been fans of hers since we started.

594
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:56,860
I don't think she can get enough credit for being a freshman and having the composure

595
00:33:56,860 --> 00:33:59,460
that she had in this tournament.

596
00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:03,920
There were a few times where the camera panned to her in the middle of some of those matches

597
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,720
and she was white as a ghost.

598
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:12,400
There were two times specifically I saw her just take a deep breath in a tense moment,

599
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:18,080
exhale and you could see her talking to herself, you got this, you're going to do it.

600
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,080
And I think the composure that she showed, and she wasn't amazing all the time, she had

601
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:29,320
some setting issues in a few of those matches, but to bring it back and to lead that team

602
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,880
and have to touch the ball every single rally, outstanding, very well deserved.

603
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,640
I think she's going to be the Cammie Miner of the next four years.

604
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,640
Agreed.

605
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,040
I'm an Izzy Stark fan.

606
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:46,360
I would have been shocked if anybody else won freshman of the year and part of me still

607
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,840
thinks she should have been a first team All-American.

608
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,400
Granted the two setters that were picked, Cammie Miner and Rachel Fairbanks.

609
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,880
Okay, I can get behind that.

610
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:02,000
I can get behind those two being named first team over her, but if any other setter was

611
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,120
selected ahead of her, I would have called someone.

612
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,120
I'm just kidding.

613
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,160
Olivia Babcock was outstanding all year.

614
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,800
I mean for me, there wasn't even a consideration.

615
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,520
I think it was nice that Lexi Rodriguez got a nod.

616
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,640
I think she's had a great career.

617
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,340
I actually think she's incredibly important to that Nebraska team.

618
00:35:23,340 --> 00:35:29,400
So maybe more so than the stats itself, which are impressive.

619
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,520
Her importance to a very good team can't be argued.

620
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,640
And so I was fine with her being on the list, but Olivia Babcock does everything.

621
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:45,920
She hits, she serves, she blocks, she gets set a thousand times and she keeps coming.

622
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,920
She's impressive.

623
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,680
I would have lost it.

624
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:55,160
If anybody won player of the year other than her, honestly, you know, people know that

625
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,720
she's getting the ball.

626
00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:04,440
They know it's coming and they still can't stop her blocking wise, attacking, serving.

627
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,560
She obviously has some up and downs with her serve, but for the most part, the numbers

628
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:15,700
that she puts up night in and night out and nobody can stop her.

629
00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:19,040
And she's hitting her hitting percentage is so impressive as well.

630
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:27,240
Like the thing for me is like, how do you not win conference player of the year and

631
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:30,560
then win national player of the year?

632
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,800
That's that is the thing for me.

633
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,380
Franklin was named big 10 player of the year.

634
00:36:35,380 --> 00:36:40,220
You would think like it just something doesn't compute for me.

635
00:36:40,220 --> 00:36:46,480
I think there's a little bit of politicking going on in some of these selections and yeah,

636
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,320
I know you hate that, but that's it is what it is.

637
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,400
Well, the majority of your work throughout the season is done in conference play.

638
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,880
So if you're not going to be named conference player of the year, what makes you the best?

639
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,360
If you're not the quote unquote best player in your conference, what makes you the best

640
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,280
player in the country?

641
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,460
That's my question.

642
00:37:04,460 --> 00:37:09,600
The other thing I was kind of confused about is Brooklyn delay from Kentucky was not on

643
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,160
the semi finalist list.

644
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,000
And then she popped up on the finalist list.

645
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:22,520
And I was like, if you're not making enough of an impact for the committee to notice you

646
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:28,160
to name you one of 14, how all of a sudden do you become that good in a few weeks to

647
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,840
jump to the finalist list?

648
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,760
Well, I've never seen anyone make the final without being in the semi final ever.

649
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,680
So that one is a little head scratcher.

650
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,800
That was a head scratcher for me as well.

651
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,360
100% Olivia Babcock, best player in the country.

652
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,280
I will die on that mountain.

653
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,040
Feel free to hit me up.

654
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,840
I think I think coach of the year is really hard to assess if you're not in the room day

655
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,840
in and day out.

656
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,360
I mean, all of these coaches work hard.

657
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,280
All of them are preparing.

658
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,280
All of them are anybody who was in the in the tournament for the round of 16, like all

659
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,460
of those coaches do an amazing job.

660
00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:07,560
This season pit was fantastic.

661
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,920
Number one all year.

662
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:14,720
And I, I definitely don't have any issue with Dan Fisher winning this award from an outside

663
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:15,720
perspective.

664
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:20,840
It looks like his players love playing for him, which is not a prerequisite of being

665
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,480
a great coach, but it definitely helps.

666
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:30,860
And I definitely think when it's not a professional league, these kids can leave, they can transfer.

667
00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:34,880
They can, they're managing so much in their lives in terms of school and sport.

668
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,520
I think enjoying your coach and wanting to play for them is a huge aspect of success

669
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,520
at this level.

670
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,840
And yeah, I think it's well deserved.

671
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,040
I think, you know, the first team all American list, it made sense to me.

672
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,880
Second, like, yeah, the list themselves, I can get behind.

673
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:59,280
We had two players who were four time all Americans, Lexi Rodriguez and Emma Grome,

674
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:05,960
the setter from Kentucky were the only two graduating players who had been an all American

675
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,960
four times.

676
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,760
So that was cool.

677
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:14,280
And Olivia Babcock is on her way to becoming a four time first team all Americans.

678
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,840
She was a first team or last year, obviously this year.

679
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,440
So we'll see what happens there.

680
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,680
She'll be joining you on that list.

681
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,240
Oh baby.

682
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:32,760
All right, the main event, the national championship final, Penn State versus Louisville, Penn

683
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,160
State won it in four.

684
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,160
What are your thoughts?

685
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,320
Well, I think there were a couple interesting storylines coming into this match.

686
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:47,240
I think one was, this was going to be the first time a female coach has won the NCAA

687
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:51,880
division one title, which I think is fantastic for the sport.

688
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,920
And both of those coaches are phenomenal, have built programs.

689
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,160
You know, I just want to say great job and so much respect for what they've done.

690
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,140
That was really cool to see.

691
00:40:03,140 --> 00:40:08,040
And I can't believe that a woman head coach has taken this long.

692
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,040
It's crazy.

693
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,440
I know Mary Wise has been in many finals.

694
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:17,440
She's gotten close to the head coach for Florida, but I'm shocked that it has taken so long.

695
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,800
And you know, as a former teammate of Danny Busboom Kelly, like I'm, she's done great

696
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,320
things for that Louisville program.

697
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,720
And with everything, as we mentioned before, that Katie Schumacher Colley has been through

698
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:35,400
and then to see her overcome or fight through that and come out victorious in the end, it

699
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,840
is like, you couldn't write it any better.

700
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,340
Honestly, you could not.

701
00:40:40,340 --> 00:40:41,640
So that is outstanding.

702
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,220
I think the other storyline for me coming in, which I thought was going to be a huge

703
00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:50,000
factor on the match was, was the beer going to play?

704
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,260
You know, when we found out she wasn't going to play, they had to have known that Thursday

705
00:40:54,260 --> 00:40:59,900
after the match or Friday morning after her ankle obviously didn't get better.

706
00:40:59,900 --> 00:41:05,560
So my question immediately was, how was the little freshmen going to do?

707
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,760
You know, we discussed this in the semifinal match.

708
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,960
It's one thing to be thrown into the fire and to not have time to think and to go out

709
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,900
and she did great.

710
00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:20,420
That's another thing to spend two days thinking about our captain, our leader is out and I

711
00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:24,520
have to replace her and have a lot of time to freak yourself out.

712
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,520
I will say to her credit, I think she had a great match.

713
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,520
They weren't going to be able to rely on her to score points.

714
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,240
However, she did not break under the service pressure.

715
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:37,780
She served incredibly well.

716
00:41:37,780 --> 00:41:40,480
She was not a liability on the block.

717
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,880
And I thought defensively she was very good.

718
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:48,600
I don't think from Louisville's perspective, they could have asked for anything more out

719
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,600
of her.

720
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,600
I agree.

721
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,320
I think and when you have an athlete in that position, I mean, I'm no expert.

722
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,560
I don't know.

723
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,720
But when you have an athlete in that position, I feel like all you can do as her coaching

724
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:06,920
staff and as her teammates is just do everything you can to build her up and give her confidence.

725
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:13,040
Everybody including her knows that she is not going to be a one for one replacement

726
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,040
for Anna DeBeer.

727
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,040
A hundred percent.

728
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,400
She's aware.

729
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,400
Everybody's aware.

730
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:24,520
All you can do is make the kid feel as comfortable as possible, give her the information that

731
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:30,400
she needs to be effective and just encourage.

732
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:35,940
And I thought she definitely had trouble scoring, but everything else she did not break.

733
00:42:35,940 --> 00:42:37,840
Her passing was very good.

734
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,040
She dug a lot of balls.

735
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,760
She got like several aces that what more can you ask from her?

736
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:49,280
The thing that was disappointing, however, was that they barely ran the middle to make

737
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,280
up for it.

738
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,440
This, this in my opinion was the main thing that cost them the match.

739
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,600
You're losing four kills a set.

740
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,360
You know that Charity Looper and Maldonado Diaz are going to have to score.

741
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,240
So like, let's help them out here.

742
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:05,920
Let's get the middle going.

743
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:13,000
Let's use the middle as often as possible in particular, Cressy who scores very well.

744
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,520
PK also has had a pretty good tournament.

745
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,120
Like I was, they set Cressy the first ball and I was like, okay, yes, they're going to

746
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,120
do it.

747
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,120
They did not do it.

748
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,400
Well, I'm going to interrupt you and just give everybody some context for this.

749
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:34,480
All of the middles on Louisville only got 24 attempts all match and only had six kills

750
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,480
as a group.

751
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:41,720
24 like all together, all together, all middles, 24 attempts and six kills.

752
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:49,000
Compare that to Penn State's middles that had 29 attempts and 14 kills and Penn State's

753
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,880
middles are not what they're known for.

754
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:57,960
No, I would say that Penn State runs their middle less than, than most.

755
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,760
And I've said that about them all season.

756
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,440
They don't run the middle enough.

757
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,440
They almost tripled.

758
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,440
They two and a half times the scoring production of the Louisville middle.

759
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,680
And that to me was the difference.

760
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,240
Big picture in the match.

761
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:18,080
Kara Cressy, as soon as the beer was out, needed to be an offensive force for them and

762
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,400
they needed to get her a ton of balls and PK as well.

763
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,480
But for me, more Cressy and it didn't happen.

764
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,240
And I, for the life of me cannot figure out why.

765
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:31,560
Again, Louisville switched to a five one again in, in set two.

766
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,760
Which I thought was really smart because it allowed Cressy to hit the slide, which she's

767
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,800
very good at, but they didn't use it.

768
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,240
Cabello is a freshman.

769
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:46,680
I'm not making that excuse for her, but I want to be like, you, if she lost track of

770
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:52,560
it or was not being mindful of that, like as a staff, you need to like let her know,

771
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,400
like let's pump the middle because they weren't passing that poorly.

772
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,960
No, they weren't.

773
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,200
They didn't start great.

774
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:05,920
I thought Elena Scott in the first set for me looked like she was trying to do too much

775
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,760
to fill in for the beer missing.

776
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,360
She got on a couple hitters way.

777
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,080
She took a set she should have taken.

778
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,520
She looked a little tight, but I thought after that first set, when she settled in, she was

779
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,720
very good for the rest of the match.

780
00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:20,720
I thought she was good.

781
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:21,720
I thought Looper was good.

782
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:23,940
I thought Maldonado Diaz was good.

783
00:45:23,940 --> 00:45:28,160
We talked about Peter said, like, I, I thought the players.

784
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,160
Played well.

785
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,320
The only player to me who kind of looked out to lunch was PK.

786
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,320
Yeah.

787
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,840
She did not have a good match.

788
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:40,680
There were taught like they took her out again, as we've been talking about PK was not performing.

789
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,680
They took her out.

790
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:42,680
Okay.

791
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,960
They put Sherman in, like those are the kind of adjustments that you need to make.

792
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,680
Like at this point, it's not about people's feelings.

793
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,200
It's about winning a national championship.

794
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,360
Okay.

795
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,240
It should never be about people's feelings, but maybe I'm a psycho.

796
00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:57,240
I don't know.

797
00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:03,240
There were times I think of set three, for example, Penn State rant or no set two, the

798
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:08,080
one that went 3432 Penn State ran out of subs.

799
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:13,160
Not only did they have Quinn Manger, their serving specialist come through the front

800
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,640
row playing middle.

801
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,240
They had Ava Ful Dudo, who is another DS playing through the front row.

802
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:23,840
I think their front row height was cut in half when that happened.

803
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,200
It was wild and at one point you had like Izzy Stark, a DS and Jess Merzik in the front

804
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,960
row and PK is commit jumping on Izzy Stark.

805
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,960
I'm sorry.

806
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,080
If that is your front row, you just move all of your hitters out to the left side and you

807
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,160
put a triple on Merzik and you go Izzy, if you want to dump, dump, we'll dig it.

808
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,600
But Merzik was one on one in that situation.

809
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,600
Are you kidding me?

810
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,820
Not once, but twice.

811
00:46:47,820 --> 00:46:49,160
Are you kidding me?

812
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,840
Who's going to hit the ball?

813
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,000
The DS?

814
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,440
So obviously she was not very mindful.

815
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,460
She got subbed out because of it deserved in my opinion.

816
00:46:58,460 --> 00:47:04,160
So she is the only player to me from Louisville side that I was like, hello.

817
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:09,580
But I mean, the Anna DeBeer hole was a big one to fill.

818
00:47:09,580 --> 00:47:17,200
And I thought from a high level that they didn't do a good job replacing her leadership

819
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,960
and energy on the floor.

820
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,160
They were flat for a lot of that game.

821
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,480
And there was a lot of looking to other players and not that they weren't playing well and

822
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,400
not that people weren't taking responsibility.

823
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:34,440
But DeBeer was always the one who would get a kill and come down and fire up her team

824
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,000
and maybe not vocally, but just by her attitude and her presence on the court.

825
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:45,720
And that's nobody's fault because you can't just replace that in one match, but it has

826
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:46,980
an effect.

827
00:47:46,980 --> 00:47:51,280
And it took them too long to kind of figure out who was going to step up because Luper

828
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,740
did that towards the end of the match and you could see her finding her rhythm and bringing

829
00:47:56,740 --> 00:47:58,220
some of that energy.

830
00:47:58,220 --> 00:48:01,920
But there was a definite hole on the court with DeBeer on the sideline.

831
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:08,580
I'll be honest when DeBeer went down, I said to Adam, I was like, if she is not able to

832
00:48:08,580 --> 00:48:13,360
play on Sunday, whoever wins the Penn State Nebraska match is going to win it all.

833
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,360
You did say that.

834
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,040
And that is like, that's nothing against Louisville.

835
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:24,400
That is just like respect and acknowledgement of how important Anna DeBeer is to that Louisville

836
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,400
team.

837
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,400
Well, we would have said the same thing for Penn State if Merzik went down.

838
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,400
Oh, yes.

839
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,400
Totally.

840
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,400
It's the same comparison.

841
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,040
You know, I was impressed with Cabello.

842
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:38,400
I want to know when is the last time two true freshman setters went head to head in a national

843
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,400
championship match?

844
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,500
I don't think the broadcasters knew she was a true freshman because they said it every

845
00:48:43,500 --> 00:48:48,160
time Izzy Stark touched the ball and not once when Cabello did.

846
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:53,040
It wasn't like Izzy Stark, the setter, it was like freshman setter Izzy Stark.

847
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,680
And I'm like, okay, we get it.

848
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:55,880
We know she's a freshman.

849
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:56,880
She's great.

850
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,740
But there's a freshman setter on the other team too.

851
00:48:59,740 --> 00:49:00,740
And she's doing awesome.

852
00:49:00,740 --> 00:49:01,740
She didn't blink.

853
00:49:01,740 --> 00:49:03,220
No, didn't flinch.

854
00:49:03,220 --> 00:49:05,480
She was very good.

855
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:10,040
When we were saying Izzy Stark looked like a ghost sometimes in this Final Four, I didn't

856
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,440
see that from Cabello at all.

857
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,960
I was very impressed with her composure.

858
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:19,120
And you lose your safety blanket in De Beer of somebody you can just set and expect to

859
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,120
score points.

860
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,120
That is not an easy position to be in.

861
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,480
You know, maybe that's one of the reasons they didn't run the middle as much.

862
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,320
Yeah, I thought she did a great job.

863
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:32,600
I will say one person, and I'm guilty of this myself, who doesn't get enough credit, in

864
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,760
my opinion, is Grimes.

865
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:41,300
She went up in the semifinals against a libero that made player of the year nomination in

866
00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:47,120
Lexi Rodriguez and arguably one of the best liberos in the country.

867
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,120
First team All-American.

868
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,120
Yeah, exactly.

869
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,040
And Elena Scott.

870
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:56,960
And in my opinion, outplayed both of them in both matches.

871
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,960
It was phenomenal to watch.

872
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:06,600
And she's interesting because she doesn't really make spectacular plays.

873
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,080
There was one where she laid out and made a dig that was unreal.

874
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,920
But in general, you just don't notice her.

875
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,340
You don't notice her.

876
00:50:13,340 --> 00:50:14,340
No offense.

877
00:50:14,340 --> 00:50:15,340
You don't want to notice your libero.

878
00:50:15,340 --> 00:50:17,560
Because then they're real bad.

879
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:18,560
I understand.

880
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:19,560
I understand that.

881
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,240
Elena Scott makes some outrageous digs.

882
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:24,920
One handed diving for the ball.

883
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,080
She's all over the court.

884
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,240
She's very noticeable.

885
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:28,240
She's jump setting.

886
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:31,280
But you notice Elena Scott on the court in a good way.

887
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:38,200
Grimes, you don't notice if you don't pay attention, but she quietly amasses digs and

888
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,640
passes well and covers the court.

889
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,320
It was fantastic to watch.

890
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,000
And I'm going to give her a shout out because she probably doesn't get any credit.

891
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,440
And I think she did a fantastic job this week.

892
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,440
I agree.

893
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,580
She set really well.

894
00:50:52,580 --> 00:50:56,000
And she served very well.

895
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:02,280
In that run at the end of set four, she was the one who got those aces on Rodriguez and

896
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,000
Choboy.

897
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,480
Let's talk about Merzik.

898
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,040
You want me to start or do you want to start?

899
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,040
You can start.

900
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,880
I mean, there's not a whole lot you can say because she just decided that Penn State was

901
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,880
going to win.

902
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:15,960
And that was that.

903
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,360
And she got better as both matches went on.

904
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,760
I think the thing for me that was the most impressive.

905
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:29,360
So we saw her in Nebraska score on that sharp cross court swing uncontested to win the match.

906
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,760
Louisville was ready for that.

907
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:37,320
Elena Scott lined her up and made incredible digs, especially in the first and second sets

908
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,640
and took her favorite shot away from her.

909
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:45,280
The thing that impressed me the most about her was she said, OK, if that's going to happen,

910
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,040
I'm going to swing to six and I'm going to go off the hands and I'm going to find the

911
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,480
seams.

912
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:57,040
And she changed how she was attacking in that match based off the defense.

913
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,840
I don't know whether the staff gave her that information, whether she made that choice

914
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:02,840
herself.

915
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,480
But that won them the game.

916
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:09,160
She went after the block and she found a way to score when Elena Scott was eating her up

917
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,480
in the first two sets.

918
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:15,960
Whether the coaches told her to do that or not, efficiency at which she was able to find

919
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,080
those fingers was unbelievable.

920
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,680
And honestly, that won them set four against Nebraska.

921
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:29,600
She found the fingertips and just sailed those swings out of bounds so many times at the

922
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,520
end of set four against Nebraska.

923
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,960
And she did the same thing.

924
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,320
And we talked about this last week when they played Creighton, how Creighton didn't do

925
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,520
anything to reset the defense.

926
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,880
When your favorite shot is taken away, take those swings to reset the defense.

927
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:51,480
And she did that and she found a way to score anyway and then went back to the sharp angle

928
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,560
and was able to score that way, too.

929
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,120
Because Elena Scott, because they adjusted.

930
00:52:55,120 --> 00:53:00,680
I will say I noticed more adjustments in this match than I think I have all season in terms

931
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:05,000
of how they were defending players, in terms of where they were serving, what the strategy

932
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,000
was.

933
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:12,480
To me, that was a high level, a high intelligence level of making adjustments and trying to

934
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,800
out battle your opponent in that way.

935
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:20,640
I was a little worried when Penn State gave up the 24 19 lead in set two.

936
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,880
I was like, oh dear, we saw this happen to Pitt.

937
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,040
Like, what's going to happen to their credit?

938
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,520
They ended up in the exact same position in set three and four.

939
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:36,240
It was 1913 in sets two, three and four.

940
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:39,800
Yeah, they didn't make the same mistake twice.

941
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:44,200
They took care of business in sets three and four, but I was a little nervous there for

942
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,200
a while.

943
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:50,440
I think the thing for me about Penn State was they never changed their approach in the

944
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:51,440
match.

945
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:56,920
It didn't always go their way, but it was always an aggressive, we're playing to win

946
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,000
mentality and that's not always easy to do.

947
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,880
And it paid off for them.

948
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:07,080
Merzik was outstanding, but she wasn't the only person performing.

949
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,440
Jura Vicious did well.

950
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,400
Cameron Hanna did really well.

951
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,320
Taylor Trammell was scoring.

952
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Mendelsohn was more steady than we have seen her in the previous two matches.

953
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,440
We already mentioned Grimes, like Izzy Stark.

954
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,600
She definitely had moments when the games were getting tight where she, you can see

955
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her get frustrated with herself.

956
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You could see her be a little unsure, but she always righted herself and was able to

957
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get back on track, which is tough when you're really young.

958
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,200
But I think top to bottom, Penn State showed up.

959
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:47,400
They were the better team and I just loved seeing them all rise to the occasion.

960
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,960
Like Jess Merzik, she is what she is.

961
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,560
She put the team on her back, but she wasn't alone.

962
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:58,280
Yeah, you generally can't win off one player, but everybody pulled their weight and it was

963
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,440
good to see.

964
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So one hypothetical for you.

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00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,840
You don't have to spend a lot of time on it, but I'm curious.

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What do you think the match would have been like if De Beer was playing?

967
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I think it would have been a lot closer.

968
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,080
I mean, she does every skill for Louisville.

969
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:14,120
I mean, I can't predict because everybody showed up for Penn State too.

970
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,220
Like Anna De Beer is a good blocker, so there's that piece that's added.

971
00:55:18,220 --> 00:55:23,120
She scores points for Louisville at a higher clip than Peterson did.

972
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,000
I think it would have been a much more tight match than it was.

973
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,240
I think Penn State still would have won though.

974
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:30,240
Fair enough.

975
00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:34,920
I think for Louisville to win, they needed to dominate the middle.

976
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,760
And I'm not sure if that changes if De Beer is there or not.

977
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,360
But to me going into that match, that was the key for Louisville.

978
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,880
Well, Penn State was winning the blocking stat heading into set four, I believe.

979
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,680
I don't know what it ended up as, but Penn State was out blocking Louisville throughout

980
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,720
that match, which I found interesting.

981
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:55,200
So that was definitely true.

982
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,480
The match ended with Louisville having 12 and Penn State having 11.

983
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,240
Oh, never mind.

984
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:04,240
Well, Louisville got a bunch of blocks in the four set, but they were ahead.

985
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:09,280
And that is a staple of Louisville's game, which was a little surprising to see them

986
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,600
not do that as well.

987
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,480
I cried at the end.

988
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,480
I think you might have too.

989
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,480
I'm not going to lie.

990
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,120
You know, that is the beauty of sport.

991
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,080
Like I said at the beginning of the segment, it couldn't have been written any better,

992
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:30,520
you know, to understand the sacrifice that Katie Schumacher Collie has made all season,

993
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,680
the fact that she continued to show up and like be professional and be there for her

994
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,360
team, but also that her team was there for her.

995
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,720
You could make a movie about it, honestly.

996
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:45,960
It was a great story and it was a good ending to the season.

997
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,400
And you're happy for everybody in that program and surrounded with that.

998
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,480
And at the same time, you know, a little disappointed for Louisville and Anna.

999
00:56:54,480 --> 00:57:00,960
Congrats to Penn State, our 2024 NCAA Women's Volleyball Champions, their first title since

1000
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,280
2014.

1001
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:07,120
And they're within striking distance of Stanford for total national championship victories.

1002
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,440
They now have eight.

1003
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,920
Stanford is first with nine.

1004
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,840
So yeah.

1005
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,080
They'll be interesting next year.

1006
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,720
They're going to roll over quite a few players.

1007
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:23,040
So it'll be interesting to see who ends up there, how they do, well, if they're competitive.

1008
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,640
But it was a great college season.

1009
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,640
I really enjoyed it.

1010
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:30,880
It is holiday season and there is minimal volleyball being played this week aside from

1011
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,460
the pro leagues overseas.

1012
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So next week is going to be a little more fun, a little more laid back.

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00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,880
We're not going to do deep dives on matches, but we will be answering several listener

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00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:43,880
questions.

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00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,140
We've answered several in the last couple of weeks, so we're going to address those.

1016
00:57:47,140 --> 00:57:51,000
But if you have something that you want us to talk about, be sure to get your questions

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00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,020
into us by email, by Instagram or on YouTube.

1018
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For those of you who watch the video version of the of the show, we are also going to be

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exploring the transfer portal.

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I have very strong opinions about the portal, but there is some crazy stuff happening.

1021
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:15,280
So next week is going to be very fun as we get ready for the NCAA men's season, PVF,

1022
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and the launch of love in the new year.

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That concludes this week's episode of Volley Talk.

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There's always something shaking in the volleyball world and we hope you enjoyed this little

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Thanks so much for joining us and we'll be back next week.

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Happy Holidays everyone.