Episode 36 - Angel Numbers

Spirit Outspoken

Have you been noticing repeating numbers like 111, 444, or 1234 popping up in your daily life? In this episode of Spirit Outspoken, we explore the fascinating world of angel numbers—what they are, why you might be seeing them, and how to interpret these spiritual nudges.

Join us as we unpack the energetic meanings behind common sequences, share personal stories of how angel numbers have shown up in pivotal moments, and offer practical ways to tune into the signs your spirit team is sending you.

Learn to decode divine messages and deepen your spiritual connection—one number at a time.

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Welcome to Spirit Outspoken, the podcast for Christians who are ready to explore the deeper side of faith.

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<v Rachael Loney>Hello and welcome to another episode of Spirit Outspoken you guys, we are excited today'cause we're kind of taking a fresh start here.

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<v Rachael Loney>We've done our deep dive into the Bible and history and a lot of research stuff.

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<v Rachael Loney>And today we're in the mood to just kind of lighten it up and we're gonna talk about one of our favorite things, which is angel numbers.

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<v Rachael Loney>So if you don't know about angel numbers, these are times in your life where maybe you see.

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<v Rachael Loney>Repeating numbers frequently.

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<v Rachael Loney>So it might be 11, 11.

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<v Rachael Loney>It could be 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4.

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<v Rachael Loney>So on.

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<v Rachael Loney>These can be little signs and information coming to us from our guides and angels, and that each of these numbers is associated with different messages.

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<v Rachael Loney>For us, depending on what's going on in our life.

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<v Rachael Loney>And Jason and I have laughed because we always talk about how angel numbers are, like the marijuana of the spiritual realm in that they're the total gateway.

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<v Rachael Loney>I feel like they're so innocent, you know?

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<v Rachael Loney>It's a good way for people maybe who haven't done some of this more, I would say, mystical, side of spirituality, it's a good way to just kind of like dip your toe in the water that doesn't feel.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>absolutely.

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<v Rachael Loney>Threatening or like really kind of weird and out there, so,

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<v Jaisa Engasser>like angels?

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<v Rachael Loney>right.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>like,

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<v Rachael Loney>know.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>of angels, your

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Rachael Loney>As a child

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<v Jaisa Engasser>well, I mean, everywhere in the Bible they're like, fear, not like, I'm sure

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<v Rachael Loney>yeah.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>insane,

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<v Rachael Loney>And they say like, she was terrified.

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<v Rachael Loney>And the angel said to her, do not be afraid.

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<v Rachael Loney>I know.

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<v Rachael Loney>So I was always like, oh god, that would be awful.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>But angel numbers feel cute and,

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Rachael Loney>They're just little

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah,

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<v Rachael Loney>little messages and like, you know, like at heart emoji from our guides.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

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<v Rachael Loney>So anyway, Let me just back up a little bit.

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<v Rachael Loney>If you've never heard of Kyle Gray, Kyle Gray is kind of like the guru of angel numbers, wouldn't you say that?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Oh,

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<v Rachael Loney>you, you can follow him on Instagram, you can check him out online.

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<v Rachael Loney>But he really focuses heavily on angels and angel numbers, and we'll give you a whole rundown of things.

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<v Rachael Loney>This is his deck.

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<v Rachael Loney>So one thing I started doing when I started.

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<v Rachael Loney>Getting into some of this is I bought an angel deck and started pulling a card in the morning after I would meditate.

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<v Rachael Loney>And it was just funny how so often it would perfectly align with the exact message that I needed to hear that day, depending on what was happening in my life.

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<v Rachael Loney>So Jace, I'm just gonna shuffle the deck here.

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<v Rachael Loney>We're gonna shuffle, shuffle, shuffle.

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<v Rachael Loney>You tell me when to stop.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Stop.

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<v Rachael Loney>Okay.

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<v Rachael Loney>Our card today is vulnerability and freedom.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Whoa.

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<v Rachael Loney>Okay, so let me read the message.

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<v Rachael Loney>Let's just see.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>it.

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<v Rachael Loney>All right, angels are with you now to boost your confidence because they can see how harsh some of the experiences you have endured have been.

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<v Rachael Loney>They want you to know that vulnerability gives you the chance to find a strength that will bring you freedom to move into that freedom.

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<v Rachael Loney>Your angel Guide is encouraging you to take some time today to connect with the parts of yourself that you love and admire.

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<v Rachael Loney>Know that your sensitivity is not a curse, but a gift.

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<v Rachael Loney>You are an emotionally connected soul, and although recent waves of emotion may have overwhelmed you, those emotions are great reminders of how much you care about living truthfully and in a positive way.

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<v Rachael Loney>So take some time now to value the traits and quirks that make you the unique person you are that will allow the world to value them too.

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<v Rachael Loney>It isn't always easy to put yourself out there, but you are being encouraged to do so.

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<v Rachael Loney>Now, drop the shields and barriers that you have put up because these walls are preventing the world from seeing your light.

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<v Rachael Loney>Your angel guide is reminding you that you don't need to protect yourself because God can do that for you.

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<v Rachael Loney>Whenever you feel vulnerable or unsafe, old habits and patterns will want to kick in, but call in the light of God and surrender your need to protect yourself.

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<v Rachael Loney>When you give Angels permission to come in and help you, they will.

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<v Rachael Loney>They will guide you toward freedom, joy, and your highest good.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Oh my gosh.

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<v Rachael Loney>This resonates with me with everything that we went through with that post that went viral, because we've talked about this before, that on this podcast being vulnerable about some of the things that we're exploring and some of the questions we have, especially as Christian women.

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<v Rachael Loney>Feels very vulnerable and feels at times scary to put yourself out there in a very public way and ask things that oftentimes people are afraid to say out loud.

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<v Rachael Loney>And because of the threat of pushback or being told things, which happened to us recently.

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<v Rachael Loney>Right.

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<v Rachael Loney>And I did find when that video kind of took off and people were coming at us with some really harsh things.

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<v Rachael Loney>I did find that old sensitive people pleaser, like those old parts of me definitely kicked in and I had to sit with that and allow myself to process it and meditate on it and pray about it to get back to equilibrium.

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<v Rachael Loney>So I feel like this resonates with me a lot.

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<v Rachael Loney>What about you?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I love that so much because Rach, I, I mean, you shared at the beginning, I don't know if it was like our emotional vulnerability episode, but one of your biggest fears about starting this podcast was that somebody was gonna tell you that you're gonna go to hell.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>like, I have like other reservations, but you know, that was the one that you were really kind of like, I'm gonna share, like, this is what I'm scared about.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And, um.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>one person, but many people

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<v Rachael Loney>Yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>us that.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Right.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>real.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So, you know, and, and it was really cool to see because I saw, you know, like the foundation crack a little bit and you are very open with me as your friend to be like, okay, I'm like freaking out a little bit about this.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I'm like trying to navigate my way through this.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>But really kind of what emerged on the other side of that experience was somebody that I saw that was more confident.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>More sure than ever in what you were doing.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So it, it was like facing those fears through vulnerability

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>you have grown and, and be able to experience more freedom as an individual.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And like you, you weren't just doing this on your own.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I mean, I felt very much so, like we were getting this hate together, but

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>to see how you as an individual.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Transform through this experience, and it wasn't easy, but it

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>that led to freedom, like exactly what the card said.

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<v Rachael Loney>It's so true.

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<v Rachael Loney>I think when we face our fears head on, and I'm learning this too, just as a mom, as as a individual, and you get to the other side of it, you kind of go, oh, that wasn't that bad.

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<v Rachael Loney>It's like this thing that's been holding you back or keeping you small or whatever it is, it's like, okay, I can do this.

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<v Rachael Loney>I dunno.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Sandy with the cigarette at the end of grease after her transformation, her leather and

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>spandex, and putting the cigarette down and just like, fuck it

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<v Rachael Loney>I am trying.

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<v Rachael Loney>I'm trying.

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<v Rachael Loney>She's in there.

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<v Rachael Loney>She's reemerging.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>that's right.

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<v Rachael Loney>So anyway, Jace.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>we gonna do this?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Are you quizzing me?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>What are we doing?

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah, I think we should just start.

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<v Rachael Loney>So, okay, you guys, if this is all new to you, so one thing that might start happening once you self

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Rachel's sick, so if you're

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah, if,

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<v Jaisa Engasser>it's a cough chop.

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<v Rachael Loney>And you guys, I told Jason this morning, I feel like I sound like Marge Simpson's sisters on The Simpsons, where it's just like,

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<v Jaisa Engasser>It's actually better today.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I was like,

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<v Rachael Loney>is it.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah, yesterday I was like, okay,

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah, I don't know what's going on.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah, it's all my,

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<v Jaisa Engasser>took that a little too

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<v Rachael Loney>my sandy cigarettes giving me my sultry voice.

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<v Rachael Loney>Okay, let me back up a little bit.

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<v Rachael Loney>So if this is all new to you,

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

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<v Rachael Loney>so just simply being attentive and paying attention to anytime you see.

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<v Rachael Loney>Numbers and sequence is really like the ultimate way to kind of dip your toe into this.

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<v Rachael Loney>things that might start happening is you might start noticing numbers, like say on a receipt, whether it's a microwave, whether it's, you know, on buildings and addresses, that's kind of how this starts to play out, but what we're gonna do is we're gonna start, we're gonna go to Kyle Gray's, website and I'm just gonna read through Okay.

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<v Rachael Loney>So 1, 1, 1 or you might hear a lot of 11.

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<v Rachael Loney>11.

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<v Rachael Loney>You are one with all that is know that all you are doing and giving is for the world and all the beings in it.

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<v Rachael Loney>So this one I've also heard is a heavy manifestation number.

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<v Rachael Loney>Your thoughts are coming into action, so pay attention to your thoughts and really be aware of, what's coming forward.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>A story about 1 1, 1,

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<v Rachael Loney>Yes, let's go into that.

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<v Rachael Loney>'cause you have a lot of experience about.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>1, 1.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>has been a pretty pivotal one.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So, the explanation that you read really connects with me now.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>'cause like, I haven't heard that specific explanation of 1, 1, 1, and it even more so affirms what, my experience was.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So shortly after my, second oldest son was diagnosed with leukemia, I saw 1, 1, 1.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Everywhere.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah, you did.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>in Children's Hospital and the channel he wanted to go to was 1 1 1.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>His bingo card that he would get from the hospital to play bingo was 1 1, 1.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Anytime he would go into a procedure, I would show Charlie my phone.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I was like, it's one, one, one.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Like when they would take him away, it was absolutely bananas.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>It was everywhere.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And the thing that I wanna say too, I guess like my unsolicited advice to people that are new to angel numbers is you will know.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>When you are getting a message, it will like, sometimes I'm like a number's just a number.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Other times I'm like, I know that this is.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Important.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah, pay attention.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I sent Rachel this picture.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I went to Chicago.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>It was during a time that things were kind of dicey with my son's treatment and my Uber pulled up to the hotel.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I kid you not, there was 1, 1, 1 that was like half the building, you

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>like a, a billboard saying, we're here, you're protected.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Like what you read.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Was really cool because I have felt even from the beginning of this journey that this was a very divine journey that has purpose from all of us.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Like my son is here to wake up everybody around him, and I feel like I'm here to help share his story, to help other people heal.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So it's this dual faceted, like.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>know, blessing of a reminder of what our purpose is, but also a reminder of our divine guidance and protection, but like

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<v Rachael Loney>Absolutely.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I found out a year later after he was diagnosed the building that we found out he had cancer in this large tumor in his chest.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>The address of the building was 1, 1, 1.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Like, it's just like, I don't have to say like, just two weekends ago I was starting to show my friends that like aren't even totally into this.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I was like, my locker's 1, 1, 1.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>My receipt from my spa appointment 1, 1, 1, you know, it just hits you over the head so you can't deny it.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>But anyway, that's sort of been like my number that I

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<v Rachael Loney>Yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>the most, um, guidance around

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<v Rachael Loney>And I can confirm that because Jason will often send me pictures and it is like boom, boom, boom, boom.

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<v Rachael Loney>I mean everything.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Rachael Loney>So it's so cool though when you learn about this because you do, you feel so supported and loved and it's just like this constant reminder of how much you are being guided and how much they are there and involved in your life, right.

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<v Rachael Loney>In a very tangible way.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>they

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>They're sending messages and I love that a lot of people call'em God winks, these synchronicities or these things that happen that are just so, you know.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>and serene and magical and I don't know, just,

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<v Rachael Loney>It's so cool.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah, I love that.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>two.

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<v Rachael Loney>All right.

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<v Rachael Loney>2, 2, 2.

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<v Rachael Loney>You have the ability to lift up the hearts of all those around you.

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<v Rachael Loney>Like an angel on the earth.

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<v Rachael Loney>You were born to shine.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Ooh.

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<v Rachael Loney>I.

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<v Rachael Loney>That's a good one.

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<v Rachael Loney>3, 3, 3.

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<v Rachael Loney>Now I was getting this for a while and I will tell you my experience with angel numbers is more like I tend to get them in cycles.

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<v Rachael Loney>So like

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

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<v Rachael Loney>be going through a while where I see like recently, 5, 5, 5.

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<v Rachael Loney>I'll get to that in a little bit, but, so here's 3, 3, 3.

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<v Rachael Loney>You are powerfully aligned with Jesus and other ascended masters at this time.

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<v Rachael Loney>You are at a crucial point on your journey where you can go beyond all previous setbacks, jsa you.

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<v Rachael Loney>Two months ago kept seeing 3, 3, 3.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Oh my gosh.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Okay.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So like you guys and like this really started bubbling up.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Oh my gosh, I have goosebumps.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Okay.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>This started bubbling up around the time where we started to explore the real Jesus and doing research and

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Magdalene.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>R oh my gosh, I forgot about this.

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<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>about 1, 1, 1 a lot.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So 3, 3, 3 started popping up literally everywhere.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And it was right around the time and like honestly, since we sort of wrapped those episodes, I'm not seeing it so much

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<v Rachael Loney>I know.

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<v Rachael Loney>Isn't that crazy?

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<v Rachael Loney>Because it was, it was right when we started reading the Mary Magdalene book, and then we started going down our rabbit hole of everything.

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<v Rachael Loney>So how cool is that?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>it

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<v Rachael Loney>That

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I feel like it, the way that I interpreted that was we're on the right path.

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<v Rachael Loney>right.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>is with us he is.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>They're in presence and, and anytime we see that, we're like, you and I would be on the phone and we'd be like, oh my gosh, it's 3 33 again.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Or a, a clip that I was working on was three minutes and 33 seconds.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Like, it

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>was, but it was like very specific to the work that we were doing together

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<v Rachael Loney>Yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>podcast.

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<v Rachael Loney>And we would have 333 views on a reel that was about that topic.

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<v Rachael Loney>And it was always very aligned with what we were studying and researching at that time, which is so cool.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>so glad you brought that up.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah, I know.

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<v Rachael Loney>So 4, 4, 4.

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<v Rachael Loney>You are surrounded by a hundred thousand Angels.

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<v Rachael Loney>Miracles are happening before your eyes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Have a cool story about four, four.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Four.

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<v Rachael Loney>Oh my gosh.

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<v Rachael Loney>Share it.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Okay, so I'm probably gonna cry, but I have a very.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Cool thing about 4, 4, 4.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So right after my son was diagnosed, I started having these really, cool experiences with angels.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So I had connected to my guardian angel a couple years before Roman was diagnosed, and it was through doing work and meditations of Kyle Gray.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>right after my son was diagnosed, I felt the presence of my guardian angel.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>But then I felt the presence of another angel, and I now believe that that was my son's guardian angel.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And

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<v Rachael Loney>Oh

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<v Jaisa Engasser>even having like to call them in, I just felt their presence.

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<v Rachael Loney>yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>was one particular procedure that took place, um, where.

00:16:48.599 --> 00:16:59.759
<v Jaisa Engasser>We were very concerned about our son's ability to make it through that surgery because of the complications he was having from chemo and because of how much disease was in his body.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>It was very telling to us when we were talking to the anesthesiologist and the surgeon that they were worried, and I just closed my eyes and I could picture a thousand angels.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>In Roman's surgery room.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Like I just, and like it wasn't like I intended to have this thought, it's just the image that came to me and they were all like shoved into the operating room, shoulder to shoulder and filled his room.

00:17:31.033 --> 00:17:33.644
<v Jaisa Engasser>I like felt such peace in that moment.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So fast forward a couple weeks and we're, he's out of the hospital.

00:17:38.773 --> 00:17:43.213
<v Jaisa Engasser>We're now just outpatient in the chemo clinic facility.

00:17:43.634 --> 00:17:47.624
<v Jaisa Engasser>And, um, I say outpatient, but it's like very much a hospital setting.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>But he was getting a procedure and I was just feeling so sad and down and I kind of missed the angelic energy that came so swiftly and frequently to me when we were in the hospital

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I said, angels, I really need you right now.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I would love to feel your presence and.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I said that and the main oncologist came in and ascribe that I hadn't met yet, she leaned over to grab something and on her arm was a huge tattoo that said 4, 4, 4, right

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<v Rachael Loney>No.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>hand to God.

00:18:32.734 --> 00:18:34.173
<v Jaisa Engasser>And I looked at that.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I immediately grabbed my phone and I looked up because I knew, I knew that was a message and I looked it up and the definition I found is like, you are surrounded by angels right now.

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<v Rachael Loney>Oh my gosh,

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<v Jaisa Engasser>know.

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<v Rachael Loney>that is so beautiful because, you know, I've seen some of these and if you do your own research, you might see.

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<v Rachael Loney>Sometimes there are like definitions of each one might be slightly off, and so I actually have never seen you are surrounded by thousands of angels right now, so how amazing is that?

00:19:07.229 --> 00:19:09.629
<v Jaisa Engasser>I know, and the thing is, is like, I haven't heard this.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I think when I looked it up, it was like, angels are around you right now, but when you just read this description, it

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<v Rachael Loney>Yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>me of like literally, and it's like such a vivid memory.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>It's almost like a dream.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Like I was

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>where I was awake, but it was like such vivid imagery where it was just thousands of angels around my son.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So like, yeah,

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<v Rachael Loney>amazing is that?

00:19:36.734 --> 00:19:40.274
<v Jaisa Engasser>I was trying to pull in and I just saw the 4, 4, 4, you know?

00:19:40.679 --> 00:19:42.869
<v Rachael Loney>It's so, it's so cool.

00:19:42.943 --> 00:19:43.183
<v Jaisa Engasser>it's

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<v Rachael Loney>Okay.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>It

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<v Rachael Loney>It really is.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>You are experiencing magic in your day to day.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Like this is why it's so cool.

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<v Rachael Loney>Absolutely.

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<v Rachael Loney>I mean, it, it, it is, it's so tangible and like supportive.

00:19:57.298 --> 00:19:58.019
<v Rachael Loney>It's amazing.

00:19:58.259 --> 00:19:59.429
<v Rachael Loney>So 5, 5, 5.

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<v Rachael Loney>So around the time that you were seeing 3, 3, 3, I was seeing five.

00:20:03.528 --> 00:20:03.798
<v Rachael Loney>Five.

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<v Rachael Loney>Five.

00:20:04.609 --> 00:20:05.808
<v Rachael Loney>And so, 5, 5, 5.

00:20:06.859 --> 00:20:09.169
<v Rachael Loney>Says, all of your efforts are paying off.

00:20:09.499 --> 00:20:12.798
<v Rachael Loney>Abundance is yours to have live and experience.

00:20:12.949 --> 00:20:18.409
<v Rachael Loney>Open up your heart, arms, and mind to receive the blessings that are being offered to you now.

00:20:19.068 --> 00:20:23.269
<v Rachael Loney>And I think what's so beautiful about that is a couple things.

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<v Rachael Loney>One, we had been told that going into this summer, that this summer is really gonna be a season of growth for us.

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<v Rachael Loney>So I thought it was very interesting and timely.

00:20:34.834 --> 00:20:38.324
<v Rachael Loney>That I'm seeing all this about abundance, you know, at that time.

00:20:38.324 --> 00:20:41.403
<v Rachael Loney>But also other things just within my home life.

00:20:41.443 --> 00:20:48.584
<v Rachael Loney>Some things that are progressing with my kids in terms of their own development, my own development and growth through that.

00:20:48.584 --> 00:20:54.403
<v Rachael Loney>As we touched on in our last episode, like kind of getting some hate online, right?

00:20:54.403 --> 00:20:55.814
<v Rachael Loney>And having to work through that.

00:20:55.814 --> 00:20:59.923
<v Rachael Loney>But coming out on the other side of it, I feel this and see this.

00:21:00.538 --> 00:21:09.659
<v Rachael Loney>In my life so much right now, and I do feel blessed and I feel supported, and I feel like there's finally some momentum, you know?

00:21:09.659 --> 00:21:13.499
<v Rachael Loney>And some moving forward after a season of feeling a little bit stalled.

00:21:13.528 --> 00:21:14.848
<v Rachael Loney>So I just think that's so cool.

00:21:14.848 --> 00:21:16.348
<v Rachael Loney>And again, once those things happened.

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<v Rachael Loney>I haven't been seeing it anymore, but it was like every morning I would look at the clock and I'm an early riser and I would always happen to look down at 5 55 and same in the evening.

00:21:26.344 --> 00:21:36.294
<v Rachael Loney>So every day I was seeing 5 55, twice on the clock would go to check out my coffee was 5 55 and then now it's not happening anymore and so it's so cool.

00:21:36.609 --> 00:21:37.119
<v Jaisa Engasser>about that.

00:21:37.149 --> 00:21:42.489
<v Jaisa Engasser>'cause like I do feel like, without realizing it, that there are certain cycles that

00:21:42.564 --> 00:21:43.163
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Almost like this.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Reminder of Hey, you might be experiencing something now or soon, and just know that you're loved and protected and this is all part of the greater plan.

00:21:55.064 --> 00:21:56.443
<v Jaisa Engasser>I think like that's what it is.

00:21:56.443 --> 00:22:02.384
<v Jaisa Engasser>It's not just a novelty, it's a reminder that we are loved and surrounded and things don't happen to us.

00:22:02.384 --> 00:22:08.024
<v Jaisa Engasser>They happen for us, and angel numbers can just be this really tangible reminder.

00:22:08.479 --> 00:22:14.419
<v Jaisa Engasser>What that is and like, by the way, you guys, I promise you, like, now that we're just like talking about it, you are gonna start experiencing angel numbers.

00:22:14.419 --> 00:22:17.719
<v Jaisa Engasser>Like if you haven't already, it's just like that's what happens.

00:22:17.719 --> 00:22:23.328
<v Jaisa Engasser>It's like you, you understand the concept and all of a sudden, know, angels and guys are like, we got a live one.

00:22:23.489 --> 00:22:23.999
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

00:22:24.028 --> 00:22:26.098
<v Rachael Loney>Yes, it's true.

00:22:26.129 --> 00:22:26.939
<v Rachael Loney>It's true.

00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:28.318
<v Rachael Loney>Okay, so now we're,

00:22:28.459 --> 00:22:29.308
<v Jaisa Engasser>about 6, 6,

00:22:29.338 --> 00:22:29.909
<v Rachael Loney>I know.

00:22:29.909 --> 00:22:30.749
<v Rachael Loney>I was gonna say now we're,

00:22:30.828 --> 00:22:31.729
<v Jaisa Engasser>freaked out about

00:22:31.828 --> 00:22:34.798
<v Rachael Loney>people are freaked out about 6, 6, 6, right?

00:22:34.828 --> 00:22:36.359
<v Rachael Loney>And so here's what it is.

00:22:36.538 --> 00:22:38.369
<v Rachael Loney>Halt, stop.

00:22:38.489 --> 00:22:41.129
<v Rachael Loney>No, do not make any sudden decisions.

00:22:41.308 --> 00:22:45.058
<v Rachael Loney>Your ego has taken control and is leading the way to heartache and fear.

00:22:45.959 --> 00:22:49.558
<v Rachael Loney>But you can recover your power call in the light of God.

00:22:50.669 --> 00:22:56.609
<v Rachael Loney>So 6, 6, 6 is really like a pause, stop, reconnect.

00:22:56.699 --> 00:22:57.149
<v Rachael Loney>Right?

00:22:57.179 --> 00:22:58.949
<v Rachael Loney>Don't make any sudden movements.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Roll.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yes.

00:23:00.659 --> 00:23:00.808
<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

00:23:01.769 --> 00:23:02.879
<v Jaisa Engasser>So maybe just stop and drop.

00:23:02.879 --> 00:23:03.058
<v Jaisa Engasser>Don't

00:23:03.179 --> 00:23:04.709
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah, yeah.

00:23:04.709 --> 00:23:05.098
<v Rachael Loney>Just stop.

00:23:05.369 --> 00:23:06.028
<v Rachael Loney>Don't do anything.

00:23:06.179 --> 00:23:06.538
<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

00:23:06.629 --> 00:23:07.139
<v Rachael Loney>right.

00:23:07.229 --> 00:23:07.348
<v Jaisa Engasser>like

00:23:07.499 --> 00:23:08.068
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

00:23:08.068 --> 00:23:08.489
<v Jaisa Engasser>it's a good thing.

00:23:08.489 --> 00:23:17.578
<v Jaisa Engasser>It's like, okay, now that we have this definition, if you see 6, 6, 6, 6, like what self-reflection can you do in that moment to say like, okay, am I going down the wrong path?

00:23:17.744 --> 00:23:18.314
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

00:23:18.598 --> 00:23:21.179
<v Jaisa Engasser>could I maybe take a different direction?

00:23:21.449 --> 00:23:26.429
<v Jaisa Engasser>Or better yet, like how do I welcome God's energy into this moment to help guide me through it?

00:23:26.713 --> 00:23:27.314
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

00:23:27.394 --> 00:23:28.084
<v Rachael Loney>I love that.

00:23:28.354 --> 00:23:29.824
<v Rachael Loney>Okay, so 7, 7, 7.

00:23:29.824 --> 00:23:33.153
<v Rachael Loney>This is another one that I was seeing fairly recently and I haven't.

00:23:33.544 --> 00:23:34.683
<v Jaisa Engasser>the slot machines,

00:23:34.818 --> 00:23:35.389
<v Rachael Loney>I know.

00:23:35.449 --> 00:23:36.213
<v Rachael Loney>Bing, bing, bing.

00:23:36.304 --> 00:23:36.649
<v Jaisa Engasser>ding, ding.

00:23:36.919 --> 00:23:40.969
<v Rachael Loney>Your magic and manifesting abilities are increasing at this time.

00:23:41.239 --> 00:23:45.739
<v Rachael Loney>Tap into your inner superpowers and release your magic into the world.

00:23:46.189 --> 00:23:47.509
<v Rachael Loney>So that's a pretty big one.

00:23:48.183 --> 00:23:50.463
<v Jaisa Engasser>That is, so, read that one again.

00:23:50.463 --> 00:23:52.234
<v Jaisa Engasser>Is it like intrinsic magic?

00:23:52.234 --> 00:23:52.653
<v Jaisa Engasser>Say it again.

00:23:53.044 --> 00:23:55.354
<v Rachael Loney>So it's like, I think it's more about manifesting.

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<v Rachael Loney>So your magic and manifesting abilities are increasing at this time.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Okay.

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<v Rachael Loney>into your inner superpowers and release your magic into the world.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Okay.

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<v Rachael Loney>So I think again, so probably a little bit similar to 1 1 1, right?

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<v Rachael Loney>Based on that description.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>This also makes me think too about, uh, there's a lot of new age thought and perspectives around everything in the universe that we could ever want already exists.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>We just have to match its frequency.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And energetic field, right?

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<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Maybe this is a nudge, like hey, you are raising your frequency, you are doing that.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So if there's something that you desire or you want more of, now is the time to intentionally think about that.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Like,'cause sometimes like

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>we could be manifesting without even realizing that we're doing it.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So if we could be more intentional perhaps,

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<v Rachael Loney>Yep.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>you know, maybe it will line up a little bit easier.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I don't know.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Rachael Loney>Okay.

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<v Rachael Loney>8, 8, 8.

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<v Rachael Loney>Your life purpose and your wishes are in alignment.

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<v Rachael Loney>You are doing the right thing and are on the pathway of light.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I love eight, eight.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Eight.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>It reminds me of like the infinity symbol.

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<v Rachael Loney>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>You know, I just think about like everything is just this beautiful connection and we just kind of flow

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<v Rachael Loney>Flow.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Between like abundance and giving and asking and receiving, and.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Crying and laughing, like just this, like beautiful, I dunno, it just makes me think of that.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I don't know if

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>definition, but whenever I see eight, I have kind of an eight, a cool eight thing.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So my son is completing his chemo

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<v Rachael Loney>Oh yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>August 8th, and I was like, that feels significant.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I don't know.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And I just looked up and I said, Siri, what is the numerical significance of eight, or what is the significance of eight in numerology?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And it was all about like endurance and.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>You know, Phoenix, rising from the ashes and hard work and obtaining your goals, like this journey of my son going through this for two and a half years.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And I had a friend that also looked up like what it means in the Bible, and it was all about like resurrection and rising from the dead and like this whole symbolic thing.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I don't know what compelled me, but I do, it's like my guides or my angel is like, you should look up your son's life path number.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And it's the number eight.

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<v Rachael Loney>I mean.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>know.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And it just, he is living his purpose and it's just another sign again.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And what's really cool too, is like technically his last day of treatment is the 10th, but the last dose he will receive'cause he is not currently getting medication on Saturday and Sundays is August 8th.

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<v Rachael Loney>It is so amazing.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>know,

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<v Rachael Loney>just so amazing.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And like I, my husband and I like honestly teared up.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>'cause I was like, I feel like that's a important number for some reason.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And it is.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah, it's back to what you were saying, you will know if this is something to pay attention to.

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<v Rachael Loney>You just know it catches your eye differently.

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<v Rachael Loney>You get that little nudge of like, Hey, check this out.

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<v Rachael Loney>Look this up.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I almost like wanna look it up really quick'cause it was such a cool thing.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Gimme one second.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I took a screenshot.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Okay.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>In numerology, the number eight represents achievement, abundance, strength, longevity, prosperity, hope, mastery power, overcoming obstacles and effort.

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<v Rachael Loney>Isn't that amazing?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I'm just like,

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<v Rachael Loney>There you have it.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>doing it anyway.

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<v Rachael Loney>Oh my gosh.

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<v Rachael Loney>That is so cool, Jace.

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<v Rachael Loney>Alright, and then the last one we have here is 9 9 9.

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<v Rachael Loney>And this says, according to Kyle Gray, and I haven't seen this version before, but he says, the divine mother Mary, is supporting you as you move back to a sense of wholeness.

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<v Rachael Loney>Welcome home to your heart.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Oh.

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<v Rachael Loney>So again, you can look up some of these and you might get different, you know, interpretations or different things, but they'll all kind of, in essence say the same thing.

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<v Rachael Loney>But one other thing I wanna mention that was kind of cool that started happening to me.

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<v Rachael Loney>I.

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<v Rachael Loney>As I have mentioned before, dreams are really significant for me and so what's been cool as Jason and I have been diving into this podcast is all of a sudden I started getting dreams where I would see almost in silver writing in my dream, a number, and it wasn't necessarily a repeating number.

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<v Rachael Loney>It might be like, I dunno, 3, 8, 7, I can't even remember if that is one.

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<v Rachael Loney>I have'em written down somewhere and then you just Google Angel number 3, 8, 7.

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<v Rachael Loney>And every time you guys, every single time, it would align perfectly with whatever it was that we were struggling with or if we were feeling overwhelmed.

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<v Rachael Loney>It was like a way back to guidance, a reminder to connect, like everything will be okay.

00:28:52.374 --> 00:28:53.514
<v Rachael Loney>I mean, it just is.

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<v Rachael Loney>It's so amazing when we open ourselves up to this.

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<v Rachael Loney>What can happen.

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<v Rachael Loney>And so if you haven't done this, I just highly, highly recommend and encourage you just to try it.

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<v Rachael Loney>Even if you're skeptical, just try it.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>just try it.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>um, I thought that was so cool when you started having.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Those dreams and those deliberate numbers, that was almost more like bigger, like we, neither of us had any clue that you could take any, any series of numbers and there's typically an associated meaning to it.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>I mean, there are books you guys that

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>basically go through like every combination of numbers that you could think of and, um.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>point, it's like, it, it's, it's impossible to ignore.

00:29:31.509 --> 00:29:31.808
<v Jaisa Engasser>It's like

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>something you just know in your heart, like, okay, I think that this is some type of message.

00:29:36.939 --> 00:29:40.689
<v Jaisa Engasser>And it was like lining up perfectly to what you were experiencing at that time.

00:29:41.004 --> 00:29:41.574
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>recently, like you open up my eyes too, like my oldest son was like, I'm seeing 1, 2, 3, 4, everywhere.

00:29:46.959 --> 00:29:49.808
<v Jaisa Engasser>1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And I'm like, man, the fact that he's just even noticing it.

00:29:53.683 --> 00:29:55.994
<v Jaisa Engasser>Means that he is spiritually aware.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And I think

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<v Rachael Loney>Yes.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>this is such a cool, like forget the magic for a second

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>connection.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>But it's such a good practice to stop, pause, feel some kind of sense of gratitude, and then what does this

00:30:11.713 --> 00:30:12.054
<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>for me in the moment?

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<v Jaisa Engasser>What a beautiful and fun way to do that.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>And it's cool to do it with your kids too, so

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah, I know.

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<v Rachael Loney>Really fun.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah, but Kyle Gray, Kyle Gray, he is like the angel guru.

00:30:24.324 --> 00:30:44.484
<v Jaisa Engasser>He is this, uh, beautiful, grew up with Christian faith um, still has Christian faith principles that he adheres to, and he sees angels, he communicates with angels and obviously has just been given this God given gift, and it's a tremendous resource for people that are curious or learning more about it.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yes, I've read many of his books and I always get so many things out of it.

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah, definitely check him out on his Instagram and just give him a Google search'cause he's awesome.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>We

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<v Rachael Loney>awesome.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Gray.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Woo.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Alright guys, what a fun and, I dunno, I just like love this topic and we don't know what we're gonna bring you next week.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Okay.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>Like

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<v Rachael Loney>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>We're just, you know, easy, breezy, lemon squeezy.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>We're now randomly stumbling upon topics and gonna give you what we think is the most interesting in the moment.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So, a little bit of a change of what we've done before, but we feel really called to follow our heart and just, you know, bring you whatever we feel inspired and led to talk about for the week.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>So, stay tuned.

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<v Jaisa Engasser>We don't know what's gonna be about, but it's gonna be good.

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