Hard Work Works with Artist and World Series Champion Matt Szczur

 What's up? Welcome to the latest edition of the rad cast. I'm Ryan offered your host.
 We say if it's radical, we cover it. Got a radical story today, my friends. Got a lot
 of good storytelling transition. We're talking with former Major League Baseball player.
 Let's call him a baseball badass. He played his whole life. We're just going to call him.
 I like the hyperbole here, Matt. Matt, these are former world champion, not even a former. He
 is a world champion with a Chicago Cubs, former Major League Baseball and a hell of a fucking
 artist. If you say so myself, I got to look and that went down the rabbit hole. My damn,
 this is some brilliant shit. So Matt, man, it's a pleasure having you on the show.
 Thanks for having me on, man. Really appreciate you. You're bringing me out here.
 Yeah, man. In Jersey. That's my best jersey. That's as good as I get. I can't get sped from there.
 It's Jersey, I guess. I got my Southern accent. Yeah, I don't have much of an accent. I'm from
 the South part of Jersey. So I don't really. I don't have that thick New York accent.
 Yeah, they call it the Long Island Lockjaw. That's what my ex-client when I was in New York,
 but we got that Long Island Lockjaw. I'm like, okay, whatever that means. I've more of that
 silly water accent. Yeah, you go anywhere in the country. Yes, for a glass of water,
 and they look at you like, we don't have that water. Yeah, we're just the y'all crowd down here
 in South Carolina. Y'all, you got a mix in that you guys, but it doesn't feel as natural as y'all.
 What y'all doing? Oh, man, Matt, it's good to have you on the show. I've been following you
 and got to obviously doing some research with my team and seeing everything you've done with
 bone marrow and all that. I know we'll get it all that, but let's tee it up, man. Pro athlete
 from right out of the womb. I don't know, man. baseball, football, villain over, right?
 Yes, sir. Let's tell everybody. We'll give everybody a little bit of your background.
 All right. Yeah. I'm like you said, from South Jersey, born and raised here, ended up coming back
 after I've retired. A little bit of background. You see all these professional athletes always
 advocating for when they have kids. Triple challenge just came out with something about,
 I'm going to let my kid play whatever he wants. Dude, that's what my parents did for me.
 I was in hockey, wrestling, basketball, football, soccer, and then just gradually went to
 football and baseball. And then in high school, I went to track. So it was just an all-around thing.
 And then whatever I was best at, I went for it. And yeah, I went to Villanova, full scholarship for
 football and played baseball there as well. So it was two-spore athlete. Got drafted in the fifth
 round. But while it's story, I was able to put myself up there pretty high on a radar as a football
 player. So I had the potential to get drafted in the third or fourth rounds. And that was like my
 main focus, man. I was like full bore on going to play football in the pros in the NFL.
 What position went that I played wide receiver slot. So I was like the inside guy to shift a little
 little wide receiver, Julian Edelman. At the time, it was Westwalker. I feel like me and Edelman
 are the same age. So yeah, dude, I went to like a combined training facility. I had planned on
 to go to the combine and the senior bowl. And then Jim Hendry, who was the GM at the Cubs, flew out to
 me and they all for me a new deal. I used to not to play football. I got lucky though, man. My junior
 year, I got drafted. I actually went to play baseball. Short-sweets and boysy played for, I think it
 was like 30 days, bad at 400 dominated, pretty solid. And then I came back to senior year for my
 for my senior season football and had a pretty solid season and just set myself up for for that
 bargain. I love it. Hunter, I'll call you the hunter, Renfrow, the slot. That's my boy. I would
 declare Clemson. Okay. That's the modern day slot. Yeah. Yeah. Right. He was a one-star at a college
 Davos. We picked him out of nowhere. And I turned into a pretty good pro for the Raiders, actually.
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a little bit of a story. Yeah. So college athlete, played two sports,
 good at both, end up in baseball. It's funny how things work, right? And I know you had the
 minor league career and then you get with the Cubs. And you got these guys that play went like
 30 years and never win a title. And you're a world champion. And that also amazing one thing
 that people really can't take away from me, man. I was was a part of that that 2016 special team.
 And you said you follow me on Instagram and socials, man, I do a lot of posts in about it because
 it was just a special thing. I was able to win a FCS division one, double A national championship
 with Nova. And it was like it's on a different level, but it's the same type of camaraderie in
 those. And there's clubhouses without locker room. Just everybody pooling for everybody,
 nobody being like a single eye guy, friends and family off the court or off the field.
 So it was a tight knit group. And man, it was a lot of fun. I can't say that enough.
 Did you miss football? Yeah, I did. It's just a different, it's a different animal, man. It's
 blood, sweat and tears. And you're really going to work with those guys in the field. So that's,
 I think that's what I missed the most. But I learned to adapt and have that same feeling in
 baseball as well. It's just a different kind of feeling. It's always hard. I've talked to a lot
 of athletes and I've talked to you and I've got friends that play pro and all, but it's always hard.
 I think you got fans and those of us out here, I had the talent, but busted an ankle
 mushroom in your ear. So it said Sionardo, but it didn't play. So the us is out here. It's always
 hard to describe. You played at the highest level in baseball. We're on the path for football.
 That experience, that camaraderie slash the toughest of football and then baseball is different.
 But it's always hard, I think, for people that didn't play to understand, I don't know,
 the culture, the inside side of those things. New your best to describe. Maybe, and I know
 football just stopped at Villanova and you didn't play pro, but you were at the highest level,
 you were going to get drafted. So do your best to describe to me like what that feels like
 playing at that high level, the buzz of that feeling. Yeah, dude, and that's what I told you off
 camera is what I'm searching for. It's you can't replicate that feeling, but like the buzz
 of the feeling, you can ask a lot of professionals and I feel like they would have probably something
 similar. Dude, especially for baseball, you like I went through five leagues before I got to the
 big leagues. It's it's Arizona Folly, it's short season, it's low A, it's high A, double A,
 triple A. So that's six leagues before you get to the big leagues. The only thing that's different,
 yeah, you're playing better players, but it's the atmosphere. And when you get out there,
 when you stand on that field for the first couple of times, you're like, wow, holy shit, man,
 this is it. And then it's a game and you're competing, you're trying to win and there's a bigger
 picture. So that, yeah, you're always going to hear people yelling at you, scream at you, but it's
 it's in one year out the other for me. And that's how I always looked at it. And I think you'll
 get the same answer from a lot of professionals that, yeah, when you get there, it's wow, I made it,
 but it's time for business now. We want to win. It is business. That's the thing. But for fans,
 it's craziness. That's fandom crazy about my team, the companies. So now like I spent work
 to summer and plus some out in Chicago. And so I know that crowd. It's crazy. And it's great,
 though, the culture and everything like that. But it's that's fandom. But in the day,
 it is a business. And you got to perform the pressure to perform. And I'm especially going
 through the different leagues. I'm sure that it did. Was it overwhelming? Or did you feel like
 you kept it in check? I don't think it was too overwhelming. And I just, I had that background,
 like, man, I played at Nova. So not saying that we had a ton of people there, but we played at
 West Virginia when there was 80,000 people. Like they were number two to see in the country.
 We played a temple. We packed a link. I'm not saying that it was overwhelming. But I feel like
 I was able to build that base to almost work my way into it and prepare for something like that.
 Why not even knowing I was doing it was I could see it be overwhelming for some people if they
 get pushed up too fast. But at the end of the day, man, everybody's going to adapt. These guys
 are professional athletes. You see these young guys get up there and they might struggle for a
 couple of weeks or maybe a month or so. But they adapt, man. It's super impressive to watch and
 it was cool to be a part of. Are you a fan of the game still? Do you watch football? Are you a fan
 of pro sports growing up? I was never a fan just because I played it so much, man. I had no
 no time to really watch anything. And that that was on me, man. I just I was at the field nonstop,
 man. I was just talking to my wife about it. You look at everything and I've earned everything.
 I was growing up and I wasn't the fastest. I wasn't the strongest. I'm like a little 5-11
 white guy that's just running around trying to catch a football. So I earned everything I did
 because I work so so pretty and hard. That's just that's just how it was. You earned everything
 you get. That's in life. That's how it is though. It's in everything. Everybody wants to hand it
 to them, but it's either it will be leaning or it won't mean as much. And at the end of the day,
 man, like you could win the lottery. But if you earn yourself a hundred million dollars,
 like you've been through that. So, you know, you appreciate it so much more. Where if it's just
 handed to you, you're just like, Oh, okay, now I'm still searching for some kind of feeling.
 That's just life, man. You get to earn it. So I believe it was 2010 around there. You'll correct
 me with dates, but the bone marrow, the how did that all come about? So that was the most
 impressive part of your story. And even today now, I want to do just it to us. And I want you to
 tell that story, how that came about the impact it's had, all of those things. Yeah. It's a little
 bit of a story. So that's okay. We're about stories here. Go for it. Yeah. Let me give you like a nice
 short, simple version. So when I got to college in 2007, don't know the head coach was Andy Talian.
 He runs a foundation. It's called getting the game. And he's actually super brilliant for doing
 this. So he was with be the match who, you know, does the bone marrow donations and like
 handles everything. And he's a let me, let me put this in football and get every team, every college
 seems got a 50 to 100 healthy guys. And he's let's get them all to new cheek swabs and tests and
 have the potential to save someone's life who needs some bone marrow. So in 2007, he would have
 these kind of rallies where as freshmen, we would just round up as many people as we could.
 And then at the end of it, we would test. And it was simple. And it's still simple. It's actually
 easier now than it was back then. It's like a simple cheek swab. You have these long
 q-tip looking things. You put them in every corner of your mouth. And you literally just put them
 back in and they sent them away. Is this a DNA? Yeah. That's essentially it. They get your saliva
 and then they just buy this saliva. They can see if, you know, you're a potential match. So,
 yeah, I did it in 2007. And I got called to donate 2009. And it was right before we went to the
 playoffs for football. And I was a pretty solid part of that football squad. So I went into my
 coach and I said, Hey, I just was called to donate. And I'm going to donate. And he just slipped
 down and put his head down. He was like, Matt, I know you would do that. You have all the support
 from us. So I did the blood. So after they do the saliva, they take your blood, they see if
 your potential match. So it got down to five people. And I was one of those five people.
 And then week later, they called me and they were like, Hey, you're the match. You are the perfect
 match for this little girl. We're going to your donation was, I think at the time, it was like
 November 21st or whatever it was. I said, Okay, I'll be ready. They called me back two or three days
 later. And the little girl was too weak to accept the bone marrow. She, so I couldn't do it. And
 they just pushed it off and we ended up winning the National Championship game and I was the MVP of the
 game. So that's like that part of the story. So later in the year, I was my junior year. So it
 was like as a year, any, if you're in the sports at all, like that's your, your, your biggest year
 for NFL baseball, all that kind of stuff. So I was doing really well baseball wise. And I got called
 to donate again at the end of the year. It was like our last, like the last 12 days. I know it's like
 the last month of baseball called to donate told my coach. I said, Hey, I got called again. I'm
 going to donate. So I ended up donating to give you this drug called Nupagen, which it increases
 your white blood cells and it enlarges your spleen. So they treated it like mono, you're not allowed
 to do anything for, I think it was like three to four weeks. So right before I started taking this
 medicine, I remember like was yesterday, I was at Canon River Shark Stadium. We're playing St. Joe's.
 My last at bat, I hit a homerun opposite field and I like using never do that. So I went to donate.
 I'm out for three to four weeks. We have one, one more series and it's a Westrie series. We're
 good on the West Virginia. And they were in contention to make the playoffs. And if we beat them,
 we knocked them out. So my first at bat back, I hit a homerun too. So it was like a sandwich homerun,
 and like I didn't really hit any homeruns that year. And it was just like, wow, man, this is,
 this is pretty special for this to happen. Long story short, I ended up donating the bone marrow.
 The girl was from Ukraine. She was 18 months old. And now she's 14. So everything worked out.
 And I stay in touch. And yeah, that's that's the short and simple story.
 That one transplant is that all she needed to get to where is it that's sharing or whatever you
 call it. Yeah, that's all she needed. Man, it was so was she, so what she could have, there's two
 procedures. There's one that's through the hip, which is like a little bit more painful. But now
 they put you to sleep and you're just sore for a couple days. And then the one that I did was
 they put a needle in one arm. They extract your blood. They filter it through a machine to get
 the white blood cells out. And then they put a need, they have a needle in the other arm where it
 puts the blood back into it. And that's it's anywhere from three to six hour procedure. So at the
 time, she could only accept the stem cell, which is the one I did. But yeah, I mean, she's,
 you said you watched the story. So like you said, she's in Ukraine. The family's not only fighting
 for her life and trying to find a way to keep her dog, keep their daughter alive, but they're
 fighting these wars as well. So it's, it's just a wild story, man. They moved from place to place
 as refugees. They went to Israel, Canada, back to Ukraine, back to Israel, and now they're in Canada.
 So it's like just a wild story itself. Very Canada now. Yeah, they, they're able to get over, they
 went to Israel right when the war started when everybody was leaving. And they had, they were
 there for three months, and they were just waiting for papers to, to go transfer to Canada and
 started new life there. Any crazy how much we take for granted? It's like just, we live daily lives
 and we think we get problems and we don't have bottles being dropped on our head. Like, you couldn't
 be more right, man. And then the awareness you've brought, I know that obviously stuck with you.
 And as you've come in out of baseball, you, we thought pre episode, damn artists. Look, Matt,
 you can't have all the damn talent, dude. MVP of Jambship football team. Good looking guy.
 Baseball player Chicago Cubs World Series ring. Did you have the ring on? Did you put the ring on, Matt?
 No, I know what I like. Was it my safe? And I look right at it. I can't do that, man.
 Oh, I was yet, but I'm sorry. Maybe around too. I got for sure. I got.
 But man, and you're an artist. Come on, man. You can't have it all. Can you share some?
 Yeah. So that's like, I guess we were talking about before how I got started. Then
 I give so much credit to my parents because they just let me do whatever I wanted.
 You know, it wasn't nothing was forced on me. No sports, not art, not school. It was the only
 thing that was forced is that I couldn't quit. But you can't quit. You have to stick it out. And that's
 how I was, I feel like that's how I was raised. And that's what has gotten me so far just to push
 through stuff, even if it didn't work or I didn't like it. But like I said before, I was,
 my dad was, I was very creative. He was always a huge fisherman, created bucktail, sold him
 online. He was like a little hustler entrepreneur, the construction carved fish. He did it all. So
 I was always like at his side that night. That was like one of his ways to calm down after work. I
 literally probably the same for every day. They come home, they sit on their couch,
 mom makes dinner, he eats dinner, goes, goes back and sits on his couch and watches TV and does his
 hobby. So I was always like right there next to him. And I took that. I didn't grade school,
 did art in grade school, high school, college. And it was, it was a way for me. Like we mentioned,
 like there's so much stress in baseball and there's high energies. There's got to be a way to kind
 of come down after that game because you're just, you're on for three hours, three and a half hours.
 Not to mention you're at the field for four or five hours before. So a way for me to wind down
 was always to have my art pad and draw on that later on the line was an iPad and I had an Apple
 pencil and I was able to do a little bit more with digital. And when 2020 hit, I was like not
 that I was scrambling. I was always a hustler. And everybody would see me post this art and they're
 like, Hey, we want some of that. You want to share it. So I just tried to do what was relative to
 the times we were living in. And I'm sure you watched the last dance. And that was like, dude,
 everybody was watching the last dance. So I'm like, wow, Chicago club. Yeah,
 so yeah, I grew up with George. Yeah, dude, exactly. I painted Michael Jordan and I
 bring across it. And I learned how to hustle. I learned how to sell prints online and have,
 and sleep and make money because I had that third party. They would go. They would buy the prints.
 And that was that dude. And I took a, I took love to that love to make an art and being able to
 have to therapy away from this madness of the world was happening. COVID was going on. Nobody
 could leave. So for me to get away, it was getting away from baseball. It was getting away from
 the madness in the world. And I was able to just put that on on canvassing, not paved my way
 from my future, but it almost helped me retire because I was able to transition the one thing
 right after I retired. That's helpful. A lot of athletes don't have that. And I've talked a lot
 of them. They, the highest of highs, maybe had a longer career in whatever. And they're trying
 to replace that not just their energy and time, but it's just hard to have a career because they
 consider to business a business where you have that level of accolade and that level of awareness
 and the crowds and the fans and all that stuff. And even if you're not like self-absorbed about it,
 trying to replace that is tough. Yeah. I mean, I think it's irreplaceable, man. And that's what
 I said earlier is I'm still searching for that. I'm searching for the team. I'm searching for
 that atmosphere. And I know that I'll probably never get it. I'm going to work for it. And if I
 can find a way to do it through art or something else through social media. And almost you miss making
 a difference too, man. You can motivate and inspire so many more people when you're on TV.
 And they see you on TV and you say one word and you inspire so many kids around the country.
 And that's tough to leave too. You see all the impact you make in some people's life when you're
 playing baseball. And I think that's what I'm searching for too because I was able to share my
 story much easier while I was playing and while I'm not. Yeah, man. But you're able, that's what,
 and you're seeing this. I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but like the power of social
 media and just us sitting here talking, the reach that you have and the influence that you can have
 with your art can and will go to places that you may not even know. And so it's powerful. What,
 I know you've transitioned and you mentioned the NFT thing, the digital side of stuff. That's right,
 my own an ad agencies. That's right. And our wheelhouse with marketing and things like that. What's
 that been like? What's that process been? Yeah, so that's like I said, man, in 2020, I was not
 that I was searching because we were smart with money. We didn't blow it. I was never one of those
 guys who just went and bought everything, but I want to be successful. So if I can't make the
 money that I wanted to, I could have made a hundred million dollars in baseball. And then as soon as
 I would be done, I would want to find something else. Yeah. So that was just like how I was like
 bred. So in 2020, we just happened to my son. My son was like a couple months old. And I had
 so much time to just figure things out. So I would literally, I would paint all day and it was like
 the last dance. Yeah, I crushed it with doing in real life paintings. And I was just like
 searching for things online because I know that people were crushing the online. And I ran into
 a friend who was never a teammate, but was a baseball player that came up with me. His name was
 Michael Johnson. His name is Michael Johnson. And he's, yo, see, he's on the George Floyd thing
 happened. And he's let's do an NFT of the George Floyd. And I was like, what's an NFT? I had no
 idea what it was. And he was like, it would be great. A white and a black baseball player coming
 together to make this painting and sell it as an NFT. So I said, okay, let's do it. So I put all my
 trust in him because like I said, he's a fellow baseball player. I knew he had a great background.
 And we did this thing and it sold out in eight minutes. We made like 60 grand. And I was like,
 like, what the what just happened? Yeah, he's welcome to the New World. So I'm like, okay. And I
 literally dude, I grinded for days on end. I had no idea what he theorem was or Bitcoin was.
 But I figured out how to sell this digital art, put it on the blockchain, create these NFTs.
 And I really well doing it. And we go back to the team thing. Like I had this individual success,
 but I was still searching for more. It didn't matter how much money I was making. I'm like,
 I need, I don't need more money, but I need more. Like I need, I was passionate about it,
 but it just didn't feel the same. So then now I'm one of the founders of a company called
 the Noble Gallery. And what we do is we bring on artists and we have a community.
 And artists will make a painting for us. And we essentially sell our sell their art. We take
 a percentage and we pretty much guarantee their sellouts. So they know that they're going to sell
 out with us. We make money for putting them on our platform and they get their money. We really
 take care of the artist. And that's one of the reasons why I feel like they everybody wants to drop
 with us. And is that NFT bubble burst though? Like it was all the rage two years ago. And I know
 that digital art has longitude, latitude. It's got a long life because obviously that's
 where it belongs. But is that is it? Talk to how the NFT world two years ago versus now?
 I think the bubble burst, I don't know if you can say the bubble burst. Maybe the
 PSP route. Yeah, maybe the PFP route did all like the the board apes. The punks are going to be
 around forever just because of the fact that they were the first. Yeah. And that was like the
 originals. But I think as far as PFP's, they could be over because it was just like,
 dude, it was free money. Like you could buy a PFP for 0.08, which was like a hundred bucks. And then
 in two days later, you could sell it for $5,000. It was incredible. And I think it was just like
 the new thing. So people were just doing it and they felt the FOMO and they wanted to buy it for
 whatever the price was. But I think the art wise digital art, that's just another medium.
 Like people paying on canvas, they spray paint, they pay with acrylics, they pay with watercolors.
 I think this is just another form of medium for artists. And the artists that have stuck it out,
 like they still do well. Like they still sell in high prices. And so I don't think the art
 bubble has burst. But I think the PFP NFT bubble has probably is a digital now all your art.
 No, dude, I do everything, man. I still, I just, I signed a deal with fanatics to do some of the
 paintings with them. Yeah, dude, like I said, I'm a hustler, man. So I enjoy doing all this stuff.
 I enjoy spending time with my family. I love golf, but I definitely find ways to work.
 What's your name? You can't be golf. I'm like eight, eight, nine. All right.
 I'm anywhere from like high 70s, low 80s. There you go. That's where I am.
 The about, yeah, I thought you're going to say a plus five or something.
 We like dude. Yeah, that's that good. You never know. Those baseball players,
 sometimes it's either a struggle or it's like unreal. You hit it a long way.
 I hit it pretty far. Yeah, I saw that earlier on the slice, but I put you know how it is,
 man, if you put any work into anything, like you can be good. I hit the guys that get pissed off
 when they stink and they only play once a month. Well, man, if you're working your job and you
 only didn't once a month, would you be any good? Of course not. What's a bad day for a bad
 Caesar? A day. I'm not hearing many bad habits. So like you seem to have it put together.
 Well, what's a bad day for me? My bad days, both my parents have cancer. So that's those are bad days
 for me. My mom had a couple strokes last summer. My dad called me. I'm a burly man. I like 435. I'm
 grinding, working out and my dad knows I'm awake and he just had reached out. He called me as like,
 hey, mom's kind of unresponsive. She had a couple strokes, had some brain surgery. So those
 are bad days. Those are bad days. Like you said, we wake up and we're grateful to open our eyes
 and being this country and how to free them to do what we want to do. So I'm grateful every day,
 man. I get to see my mom and my dad all the time. They're right down the street for me and
 part of the reason why I think it was meant to be for me to retire was because I'm here,
 because I'm spending these moments with my family. They're watching me. They're helping me raise
 my kid. So it's a blessing in disguise, I think. So I talked to guys like you and I think
 people listen and I think you've touched on a few of them. But I always liked to at least attempt
 to uncover it. Like what's the play plan? You've been successful and everything you've done.
 You've worked hard. You've earned it all yourself. But like when you talked to other people,
 and I'm sure you do just by the nature, you're freaking Cubs will champion X world championship
 football player, amazing artists. I'm sure you get asked how do you do it? How do you get successful?
 But what were maybe some of those like really tactical things that have been like in the Matt
 Caesar playbook of success? I think any success is consistency is key, man. Even
 it's funny because people think these YouTubers, these creators, they just became popular overnight.
 These dudes are grinding. But like when I was doing paintings, like I was grinding doing paintings
 and like just posting it to try and get some interaction. I got lucky. I did a few paintings and
 my wife and I started a foundation and we raised money for the people around here with cancer.
 We've done a food, done a presence. And for one of our events, I did paintings of myself at
 portraits with football and baseball. And they both sold from 500 bucks. And I continued the work
 and continued to paint icons and celebrities. And we won the World Series that year and the Cubs
 reached out and they were like, hey, what about you doing a Cubs World Series painting for our
 bricks and Ivy Ball? And maybe I had a little head start, but they would have never asked me if I
 wasn't putting in that time, like doing cool artwork. So they sold that for 40 grand. And then my
 art career skyrocketed, but I put in the time to do it. Man, I've been doing it my whole life.
 And that's the same thing, like I said, dude, I've been grinding at 4.35 o'clock,
 pretty much my whole life. And I did that because I did that at Ville Nova, like our workouts for
 5.36 a.m. in the morning. And I got better, like that discipline that helped, we didn't have to
 work out that early, but the discipline like helped me get better. And same thing right now, dude,
 I'm not retired athlete. Don't need to be working out at 5 o'clock in the morning. But my ass is on
 the beach Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 5 o'clock in the morning, putting myself through
 suffering pain because I need to. Successful is winners, man. You're winner, dude.
 It is an accidental. People like to think that you all, man, he fell into that. He was so blessed to
 be naturally born as an athlete. Yeah, the bullshit. Yeah, I can say, I was having that conversation,
 I was having that conversation with my wife today because I was just an average kid
 in grade school. Kids were faster than me. Kids were doing more pull ups than me. I just wanted
 it more than everybody else. We pants say a good job, brother. Where can everybody keep up with
 anything going on? Yeah, I know you still evolved the bone marrow stuff. Let's talk about some
 of the hit lists where everybody can stay following you, learn more about the things that we can
 only go so far on. Yeah, dude, all myself's on my Instagram social and Super Series 4
 and my art website is madseezerart.com. I know that last name is a little bit difficult to spell.
 Spell it out for everybody. We'll have it all. They'll see it. They'll show notes of the list,
 but spell it for everybody. Dude, it's S, Z, C, Z, you are. And the listen to this, the funny part is
 like when I go to places and they're like, all right, can you give me your last name please?
 I literally spell out the last name for these people. And they came and write it down, right?
 Yeah, it's a weird combination of letters. You don't write it long. It was funny as when you said
 the letters, it sounded more like the name than the name of looking at the name. I don't
 if that makes any sense at all. But yeah, dude, that's me, man. You can find me on socials at
 the Super Series 4 and then my website has everything as well. Really appreciate it, Matt.
 I want to stay in touch. I mean, it takes you my number. I love to just continue
 relationship. I love talking with people that are driven like you. And I know that our audience,
 we had a lot of value from our brother. Yeah, thanks for having me, man. It's always great where I can
 come share the story and raise awareness. Yeah, man. Hey, guys, you'll find us the radcast.com
 search for Matt Caesar. Or just search for hell. Just search for bad ass artists. You'll find
 all the highlight clues from today. World champion Chicago Cub, Matt Caesar. You know where I'm at?
 I write an offer on all the social platforms. You'll see that blue check. I had it before you
 can buy it. We'll see you next time. All right, cast. To listen and watch full episodes,
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