Episode 29 - Ancestral Trauma and the Power of Self Awareness

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Welcome to Spirit Outspoken, the podcast for Christians who are ready to explore the deeper side of faith.

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<v Jaisa>Hi guys.

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<v Jaisa>Did you just notice something new?

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<v Jaisa>Surprise, surprise.

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<v Jaisa>We have a new intro.

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<v Jaisa>Well, first of all, let's just back up a minute.

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<v Jaisa>We're in the new studio.

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<v Jaisa>We are.

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<v Jaisa>We have a lot of new stuff going on.

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<v Jaisa>Let's just be real.

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<v Jaisa>We have a new intro.

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<v Jaisa>New intro.

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<v Jaisa>We have a new studio.

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<v Jaisa>We are just like new women here.

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<v Jaisa>New women.

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<v Rachael>women.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Rachael>like.

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<v Jaisa>The new intro isn't just a new intro for the sake of a new intro.

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<v Jaisa>Even though, it's fun to switch it up.

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<v Jaisa>It's really been more about like you and I realizing that we have a really unique point of view.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>what's cool is that we're not doing like a hard pivot from what we've set out to do and what we've been doing.

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<v Jaisa>We just have more clarity.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Rachael>I think whenever you start a new project like this, and especially going in blind like we did, oh yeah.

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<v Rachael>Oh yeah.

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<v Rachael>We've said time and time again when we started this, other than I listened to podcasts, I knew nothing about actually podcasting.

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<v Rachael>And

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<v Jaisa>anytime you start a new endeavor, there's, trial and error and you just have to jump in to get started.

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<v Jaisa>Totally.

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<v Jaisa>And then once you're in the water, you can start figuring out, well this works, this doesn't,

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<v Rachael>Mm.

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<v Jaisa>really like when we talk about this.

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<v Jaisa>More so than that, here's what we're loving and what we're feeling connected to.

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<v Rachael>So

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<v Jaisa>we've been doing a little bit of that tinkering and learning as we go.

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<v Jaisa>And we have decided to refocus, if you will, or maybe redefine.

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>Or define more clearly.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>For the first time, actually what our unique perspective is.

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<v Jaisa>So do you wanna share about Yes.

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<v Jaisa>What we reached?

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>As we've had different conversations with different healers or different spiritual guides or anybody that's really been involved in our business and helping us either mentor us or whatever, had consistently said you guys are the bridge.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>And that really has always connected with us, but I don't think we really understood what that meant until recently where, to what you're saying we always knew what we really enjoyed and what we were really passionate about.

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<v Jaisa>The episodes where we were combining science.

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<v Jaisa>Energy or the latest I would even say quote unquote woo woo.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>Or like new age concepts combined with looking at it through the lens of scripture.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>Or looking at through the lens of what Jesus.

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Rachael>Taught

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<v Jaisa>Specifically.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>Versus like modern day church or religion.

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<v Jaisa>When we look, when we combine those three things, that's what really lit us up.

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<v Jaisa>So I think it is so cool to come full circle here because I think that's the bridge, right?

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>We are here to be Hey, we are a Christian and Yes.

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<v Jaisa>And so, bringing, creating a space where we can explore other topics, bring in other things, and make our own conclusions.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>And make connections.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>Oh gosh, I love that.

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<v Jaisa>Of which there are many, and that's what we continue to learn and experience as we do this work.

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<v Jaisa>And as Jace is a phenomenal researcher and she just dives deep into all these things.

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<v Jaisa>And the more we do that, the more it just reaffirms.

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<v Jaisa>What we already believe to be true.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>And I think that's,

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<v Rachael>that's, that's

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<v Jaisa>huge and has been a big revelation for me too, is this is all supporting back to a lot of my original beliefs and what I was brought up with.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>It has only made me want to dive deeper into our Christianity.

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<v Jaisa>That that's when I was like, wait, there's like literally nothing to do.

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<v Jaisa>Be afraid of.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>I think there's just something really powerful about everyone being able to share their truth or their questions or their disbelief or their belief.

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<v Jaisa>That's what it's

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<v Rachael>all

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<v Jaisa>all about is growing and learning together.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah, and that has always been what we wanted from this platform is for it to be a place where people could learn and grow and explore and feel safe doing that.

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<v Jaisa>And I agree.

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<v Jaisa>I was afraid to say it almost because I was afraid of being told.

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<v Jaisa>You're quite honestly from other Christians that I'm going to hell.

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<v Jaisa>I mean, that was my biggest fear is and I'm not a pastor.

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<v Jaisa>I haven't been trained, so I, I was a little bit gun shy about imposter syndrome almost.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah, totally.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>But the truth is, we're real women having real experiences and learning and leaning on our real faith, and this is what it looks like.

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<v Jaisa>And I think there's a lot of power in sharing that.

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<v Jaisa>And it.

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<v Jaisa>It's not to say what I believe today is even gonna be how I feel a year from now.

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<v Jaisa>Like we continue to evolve and grow and it's also giving people that freedom to continue to grow and learn and explore and change your mind and develop things and yes, I don't know.

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<v Jaisa>That's what we really want this to be.

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<v Jaisa>Totally.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>And in our intro we said a very specific word if, if you're deconstructing your faith.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>And I think like that word is really interesting.

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<v Jaisa>'cause I, I think without realizing it, at least for me personally, that is sort of the journey that I've been on.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>I would say and I'm even, you're afraid to say this out loud right now.

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<v Jaisa>I would say like even a year ago, I didn't like how it felt when I said I am a Christian.

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>Because.

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<v Jaisa>A lot of the political mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>Ties to what's going on around that.

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<v Jaisa>I personally don't align with that.

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<v Jaisa>So it almost felt like a scarlet letter in a weird way.

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<v Jaisa>I think there's a lot of people who share that, including myself.

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<v Jaisa>Okay.

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<v Jaisa>Because that makes me feel better because I looked, I was like, I'm even scared to say this to you right now.

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<v Jaisa>I was like, are we still friends?

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<v Jaisa>No, I think because of.

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<v Jaisa>Here's the thing with Christianity, there are so many denominations and so many diverse perspectives, even within the church itself.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>And I think in the media, you see one perspective, right?

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>And I don't even know if I should say unfortunately, but Christian in my mind, became synonymous with I am anti-gay.

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<v Jaisa>I believe anyone who doesn't believe exactly what I believe will go to hell, there were just a lot of things that are not me, like personally, like who you are for.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>And I'm trying to be respectful of people who do think that way.

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<v Jaisa>I'm but as someone who happens not to think that way.

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<v Jaisa>I found it challenging and at times I didn't want to share just like you and say out loud that I was a Christian because I was afraid that people would assume I was a certain way.

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<v Jaisa>Bingo.

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<v Jaisa>That's, that was Well, so well said.

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<v Jaisa>'cause that's exactly how I felt.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>And I think that that's what feels so good about what we're doing now.

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<v Jaisa>'cause I feel like we've gotten really crisp on Okay.

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<v Jaisa>We've like.

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<v Jaisa>Gone through these different journeys, and this isn't just the podcast you guys this has been a spiritual journey for each of us, for years.

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>But I feel like we've finally gotten to a place where we're crystal clear on what we want spirit outspoken to be, who it's for.

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<v Jaisa>And we wanna build a true community, not just a following.

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<v Jaisa>Does that make sense?

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>So, I don't know, it just feels good and.

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<v Jaisa>You guys, if you're excited about this, welcome.

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<v Jaisa>Yes, welcome.

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<v Jaisa>And by the way, like the same shenanigans are still gonna go on.

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<v Jaisa>We're, we're not that new.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>Which, speaking of, let's transition

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<v Rachael>to

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<v Jaisa>to our episode topic today.

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<v Jaisa>So we're talking about epigenetics and what's of these spiritual implications about epigenetics are so.

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<v Jaisa>You seem to know about, like a little bit about everything.

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<v Rachael>Like I feel like

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<v Jaisa>Like I feel like I've learned that about you, but not me.

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<v Jaisa>Like I really thought like epigenetics was like purely, your features and your, like how you

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<v Rachael>you

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<v Jaisa>like your gene

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<v Rachael>genes.

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<v Jaisa>XNA Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>Like your DNA.

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<v Jaisa>Exactly.

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<v Jaisa>And what's been passed down.

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<v Jaisa>But I've been like, I don't know, I've been really intrigued recently and I don't know if it's just the algorithm has v peds, but all, yeah, definitely it has vpe.

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<v Rachael>picked.

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<v Jaisa>It's all this like Gemini and Seditary shit, and then now epigenetics, they're like, oh, we've got a fresh one.

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<v Jaisa>So, and I've been doing a lot of soul searching myself too around things that, I, I recently, spirituality for me has been a lot about like manifestation and building the life of my dreams.

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<v Jaisa>And of course with Roman's diagnosis, health healing.

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<v Jaisa>But I also had this epiphany not too long ago that I really want to make sure that I am helping my children be the fullest expression of themselves.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>And with three very different personalities, very different needs.

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<v Jaisa>This has been like the number one challenge I think I've ever taken on.

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<v Jaisa>And like I know you feel the same way.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>like as a mom, as a parent, there's the weight of responsibility is there.

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<v Jaisa>Absolutely.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>So I started thinking a lot about that and then As, as God provided epigenetics started coming through my view and I realized like it's so much more about physical attributes and actually that there's a spiritual and emotional aspect that we can pass down through genes to our children.

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<v Jaisa>And this isn't like hypothetical you guys, and we'll link the study in the podcast notes, but there was a study done with children.

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<v Jaisa>Of Holocaust survivors, and obviously like this is extreme, like the trauma, the pain, oh my gosh, everything that those individuals went through was probably like the most extreme trauma that you could possibly have.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>Their children, Who did not go through that, right?

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>But were birthed from these individuals had gene markers that would point to.

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<v Jaisa>Higher cortisol levels.

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<v Jaisa>So basically they were predisposed to have higher levels of stress simply because of what their parents went through.

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<v Jaisa>So they physically were not there, yes.

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<v Jaisa>But they were in a way.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>So then I was like, oh my gosh.

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<v Jaisa>So

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<v Rachael>fascinating.

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<v Jaisa>fascinating.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>Then, you and I started talking like, what does this really mean?

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<v Jaisa>Things that are passed down.

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<v Jaisa>And there was a scripture that I, I remembered was the sins of the father are passed down, three and four generations and, that was related to the sin of, worshiping idols.

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>But it does insinuate that our experience as individuals, the decisions that we make now absolutely do get passed down, yeah.

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<v Jaisa>So,

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<v Rachael>I

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<v Jaisa>I don't know.

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<v Jaisa>Well, you even think about families.

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<v Jaisa>I think about, whether it's abuse in family, whether it's alcoholism in families, there's a lot of things

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<v Rachael>Y that

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<v Jaisa>do tend to carry on generationally in family.

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<v Jaisa>Absolutely.

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<v Jaisa>And how much of that is environment and how much now are we learning could potentially be a genetic connection?

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<v Jaisa>A hundred percent.

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<v Jaisa>Like how, and I don't know if people would feel this way, and I'm not like letting people off the hook, but how freeing would it be to be like, wait, there's an explanation for why I make some of the.

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<v Jaisa>Decisions that I make or why I have certain triggers that I have.

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>Or why, and like we've talked about this too, the concept of past lives, right?

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<v Jaisa>we've been told that you and I have had past lives of being like.

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<v Jaisa>You are to be looked at and not heard.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>You are wives of powerful husbands and like the looked at thing like I actually agree with I feel like everyone should look at me, says, Jason.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>No, but,

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<v Rachael>but,

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<v Jaisa>but

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<v Rachael>but us.

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<v Jaisa>I love it.

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<v Jaisa>I love it.

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<v Rachael>Us, I love it.

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<v Rachael>Us.

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<v Jaisa>It was a, it was, remember when we talked about Jason's overactive soul?

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<v Rachael>plexus?

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<v Jaisa>Now we're seeing it.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Rachael>it.

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<v Rachael>Yeah.

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<v Rachael>It's too right.

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<v Jaisa>I love it.

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<v Rachael>it.

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<v Jaisa>But

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<v Rachael>but

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<v Jaisa>like we both have talked about like this very strong reaction if somebody like either tries to say we said something we didn't say misrepresents our words, or just is sort of like, I will crawl across the table and smack somebody that came from somewhere.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Rachael>Right.

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<v Rachael>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>So like this could be, that could be.

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<v Jaisa>Ancestral stuff.

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<v Jaisa>Like things that have been passed down from other generations where many women weren't allowed to speak and now I'm in a time and place where I can, but I still have those wounds.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>Absolutely.

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<v Jaisa>So Jace, I love where we're going right now.

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<v Jaisa>I love all the things that we've talked about, but should we pack up and tell people exactly what epigenetics.

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<v Jaisa>Is, I feel like that would be a good idea.

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<v Jaisa>I feel like all my set was like I didn't know what it was and then I went down by rabbit hole.

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<v Jaisa>So here we are.

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<v Jaisa>See this is where it was.

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<v Jaisa>This is why we need be tall.

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<v Jaisa>We're teammates.

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<v Jaisa>We're teammates.

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<v Jaisa>Rachel's gotta bring us back to earth.

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<v Jaisa>Okay, we're So what is epigenetics so my understanding, and you correct me'cause you went down the rabbit hole on this, but I learned just enough, like you said, I know a little bit about a lot, whereas like JSA really goes deep.

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<v Jaisa>So the, the little bit that I know about epigenetics, I, it's almost like

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<v Rachael>No.

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<v Rachael>Oh my God.

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<v Jaisa>trying to think about how to explain.

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<v Rachael>it.

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<v Jaisa>So my understanding of genetics is it's actually how our genes express themselves.

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<v Jaisa>So essentially that we can have gene markers.

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<v Jaisa>But that those genes can either be turned on or turned off within our system and that it doesn't have anything to do with like our actual DNA.

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<v Jaisa>Does that make sense?

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<v Jaisa>Like our, our Yes, it does.

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<v Jaisa>Okay.

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<v Rachael>Okay.

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<v Jaisa>just reminds me of the telomeres.

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<v Jaisa>Remember, we just could not, and through the explanation of telomeres and it took us 45 minutes'cause we were laughing to hard.

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<v Jaisa>No, that is true.

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<v Jaisa>Like certain ones are turned on Like we are all, we all have a set that we

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<v Rachael>come, like

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<v Jaisa>become our chromosomes.

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<v Rachael>and, and

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<v Jaisa>All of our Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>Make our eyes blue or, yes.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>But they're turned on or off by either like environmental things or now we're seeing like.

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<v Jaisa>Stress.

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<v Jaisa>Stress or like generational stuff or whatever.

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<v Jaisa>And I also learned that they are constantly always shifting too.

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<v Jaisa>Like turning on and turning off.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>Which you guys, I, so I was like all the way down this episode.

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<v Jaisa>I was like, oh my gosh, this is so great.

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<v Jaisa>And a big part of this is I recently have been felt called to be like, I wanna be the cycle breaker.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>Like I wanna be, and this reminds me of that beautiful.

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<v Jaisa>Piece that you did on social around what happens in One Mother Heals.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>That's exactly tied to this.

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<v Jaisa>Exactly.

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<v Jaisa>And as a lot of these spiritual things, it's this little inkling that's like bubbling up in my stomach and I was laying in bed last night and I was like, wait I, and I'm not healed, but I'm healing, right?

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<v Jaisa>This process didn't start until after I had children, so I was like, shit.

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<v Jaisa>Up and now I'm like, now I gotta make my kids be the cycle breakers.

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<v Jaisa>But you lead us to a really good point.

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>It's not too late.

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<v Jaisa>It's never too late because they're always changing and it's, we can always step into healing and literally change the way our genes are being expressed in our bodies.

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<v Jaisa>It's wild.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>So let's talk about that.

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<v Jaisa>So we have our kids.

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<v Jaisa>Yep.

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<v Jaisa>And we're all screwed up, right?

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<v Jaisa>Every parent is screwed up.

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<v Jaisa>But don't you feel, I feel like having kids is what made me realize how much work I have to do on myself.

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<v Jaisa>Oh my gosh.

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<v Jaisa>'cause that's such a good point.

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<v Jaisa>They have a way of revealing to you this mirror.

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<v Jaisa>All the things.

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<v Jaisa>I used to think I was so patient and then I like had children and I'm like, oh, not as patient as you thought you were or not.

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<v Jaisa>You know what I mean?

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<v Jaisa>Like they have a way of showing us that.

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<v Jaisa>So I think a lot of people have children and then go.

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<v Jaisa>Oh, I wanna be the best version of myself for them, and there's a lot that I need to work on.

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<v Jaisa>Oh my gosh.

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<v Jaisa>It's, that's how I true.

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<v Jaisa>Oh, absolutely.

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<v Jaisa>And I don't know, think about how selfless you have to be now, right?

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<v Jaisa>It's really easy to be selfless when you have endless time for yourself or your spouse.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>And then all of a sudden you're like, wait, I literally can't even sit on the couch for two seconds without somebody needing something.

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<v Rachael>Yeah,

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<v Jaisa>it's a whole different world.

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<v Jaisa>And what do you do with that?

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<v Jaisa>How do you manage that?

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>And how do you regulate all of the things that come along with the sheer gauntlet of being a parent.

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<v Jaisa>A parent?

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<v Rachael>A

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>So, okay, so let's talk about that and let's tie it back to Christianity.

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<v Jaisa>So I really feel like,

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<v Rachael>the

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<v Jaisa>to your point of they're always changing, they're always evolving the way that we can break generational stuff.

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<v Jaisa>Is to point to what we've always learned and loved about spirituality, unconditional love.

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<v Jaisa>Patience.

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<v Jaisa>Like truth, honesty, just getting us back to this place of who we really are.

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>And like we talk a lot about, and spirit outspoken around it's not so much becoming different through spirituality, it's really remembering who we really are.

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<v Jaisa>I love that.

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<v Jaisa>So true.

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<v Jaisa>And I think that's the healing.

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<v Jaisa>If we can remind our, or remember ourselves, we can remind our children who they really are.

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>And that's where the healing begins.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah, and you can heal.

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<v Jaisa>So basically it's like twofold.

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<v Jaisa>The way that I understand it.

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<v Jaisa>We can heal ourselves, but then through the healing of ourselves, we show up in a more loving way.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>We show up in a more emotionally available way.

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<v Jaisa>And I want to hear from you what you feel like your generational stuff is.

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<v Jaisa>And I've been thinking a lot about it.

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<v Jaisa>I feel like for me it's like I'm a, I'm a really loving parent, but I don't think that I.

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<v Jaisa>Have always been emotionally available.

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>And I think that I like to keep it positive.

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<v Jaisa>I like to keep it light.

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<v Jaisa>I like to be optimistic and I don't like negative hard stuff Now, Roman's treatment and this whole journey has ha made me face shadow work.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>Like the things that I have been most scared of my entire life are right in front of my face.

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<v Jaisa>I try to outrun'em.

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<v Jaisa>after he was diagnosed.

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<v Jaisa>And then it wasn't until he was having significant complications in his treatment where he needed a second biopsy, where it was like, we are going to stick your nose in this and we are gonna work through this and you're gonna face your fears.

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<v Jaisa>And not only become emotionally available for yourself because that was a big thing.

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<v Jaisa>Like I wouldn't let myself feel those feelings.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>'cause I was scared of what it meant.

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<v Jaisa>And if I felt sad, if I felt fear, then it meant that things weren't good.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Jaisa>And now I'm like, okay, I did that.

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<v Jaisa>And now I really feel like this whole transition in how I'm responding to my kids' emotions, like I said to Roman for the first time.

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<v Jaisa>I know that.

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<v Jaisa>And a mentor

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<v Rachael>Candace,

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<v Jaisa>you're listening, thank you.

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<v Jaisa>She challenged me.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>She said, what have you needed through this process?

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<v Jaisa>And I said, I've really needed for people to understand how hard this has been.

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<v Jaisa>And she goes, have you asked your own children that?

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<v Jaisa>And I was like, Ooh, I have not.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>So unknowingly I am creating, you

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<v Rachael>you know,

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<v Jaisa>the very thing you want, the very thing.

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<v Rachael>want the very

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Rachael>Know,

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<v Jaisa>So that has been really big.

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<v Jaisa>And I've had those conversations like, Hey, this has been really hard.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>Like, how have you felt about it?

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<v Jaisa>And it's been really cool.

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<v Jaisa>And like Charlie is very much like me, wants to keep everything, like puppies in sunshine is just staring at me like, oh, okay.

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<v Jaisa>Like we're going there.

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<v Jaisa>But it's, it feels good.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>It feels good.

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<v Jaisa>How about you?

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<v Jaisa>What do you And you're healing.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah, we're healing.

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<v Jaisa>We're healing.

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<v Jaisa>Which is amazing.

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<v Jaisa>You're healing yourself.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>And your children through that.

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<v Jaisa>Yes.

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<v Jaisa>Okay.

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<v Jaisa>So a big one for me.

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<v Jaisa>A few things.

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<v Jaisa>One, in my household growing up, I don't think I felt like I had a voice.

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<v Jaisa>Or maybe not that I didn't have a voice.

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<v Jaisa>I just, for whatever reason, did not speak up about things that probably were important to me.

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<v Rachael>And

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<v Jaisa>I was younger, I felt like anytime I tried to speak up it, it just didn't do anything.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>You know what I mean?

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<v Rachael>I didn't feel heard.

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<v Jaisa>You didn't feel heard.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>You didn't feel heard.

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>And so I learned how to stuff.

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<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

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<v Jaisa>And stuff, feelings and just ignore them.

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<v Jaisa>Because feelings just get in the way and feelings are there to help us show that there's a problem or something that needs to be fixed.

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<v Jaisa>And if you can't fix it, then what's the point of having a feeling?

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<v Jaisa>Gosh.

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<v Rachael>gosh.

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<v Jaisa>You go real

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<v Rachael>real

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<v Jaisa>How to shove it away and lock it away.

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<v Jaisa>What's the point?

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<v Jaisa>Yeah.

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<v Jaisa>There's no point.

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<v Jaisa>It's just gonna get in the way.

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<v Jaisa>There's nothing I can do to fix this.

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<v Jaisa>These are useless.

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<v Jaisa>So I learned, I was very good at separating.

00:22:15.065 --> 00:22:15.365
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:22:15.365 --> 00:22:20.434
<v Jaisa>And ignoring until you're not, because as we talked about with our somatic work, it's always in there and it could.

00:22:20.674 --> 00:22:21.995
<v Jaisa>Gets stored, somewhere.

00:22:22.384 --> 00:22:23.741
<v Jaisa>And now we're seeing like on a, on a,

00:22:23.895 --> 00:22:24.105
<v Rachael>on

00:22:24.405 --> 00:22:25.555
<v Jaisa>like gene level.

00:22:25.555 --> 00:22:25.644
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:22:25.674 --> 00:22:26.904
<v Jaisa>It's not just, you know what I mean?

00:22:26.904 --> 00:22:28.746
<v Jaisa>That's, it's, it is deep.

00:22:29.046 --> 00:22:29.645
<v Rachael>Yes.

00:22:29.815 --> 00:22:36.775
<v Jaisa>I think that that stems from, my mother has been very open herself, so I feel comfortable sharing this, but she grew up in a home with an alcoholic father.

00:22:36.805 --> 00:22:37.105
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:22:37.318 --> 00:22:40.194
<v Jaisa>And anyone who's dealt with that knows that there are very common.

00:22:40.318 --> 00:22:46.759
<v Jaisa>And there's a general pattern that most people who go through, someone having an addiction in their household, it's all very similar.

00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:48.499
<v Jaisa>So it's you don't really talk about it.

00:22:48.499 --> 00:22:50.838
<v Jaisa>We just go on as if everything's okay.

00:22:50.838 --> 00:22:51.019
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:22:51.019 --> 00:22:51.619
<v Jaisa>We ignore.

00:22:51.619 --> 00:22:52.819
<v Jaisa>And so that's how she grew up, mm-hmm.

00:22:52.909 --> 00:22:59.084
<v Jaisa>So we look at this genetic component, it probably was passed down, and then the environment just reinforces.

00:22:59.088 --> 00:23:02.209
<v Jaisa>Reinforces, so I think for me, a big part of.

00:23:02.494 --> 00:23:06.693
<v Jaisa>My healing for myself and for my kids is one to be able to show emotion.

00:23:07.344 --> 00:23:11.634
<v Jaisa>I think my mom growing up too, did a lot of trying to protect us.

00:23:11.634 --> 00:23:15.511
<v Jaisa>I know it came from a really good place, but I didn't see my mom angry.

00:23:15.953 --> 00:23:18.713
<v Jaisa>I didn't really see my mom cry that much.

00:23:18.953 --> 00:23:21.473
<v Jaisa>And I think she was trying to be strong for us.

00:23:21.594 --> 00:23:21.834
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:23:22.074 --> 00:23:29.064
<v Jaisa>But I never learned how to deal with those feelings, or I thought that there was something wrong with feeling them right.

00:23:29.348 --> 00:23:35.739
<v Jaisa>And so I want my kids to always know that their feelings are valid and that they are heard.

00:23:36.338 --> 00:23:49.119
<v Jaisa>And I have probably sometimes swung the pendulum too far the other way where I probably have given my kids too much of a voice, but it's just so important for me, especially because they're women.

00:23:49.179 --> 00:23:49.568
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:23:49.629 --> 00:23:57.308
<v Jaisa>That they feel like it's okay for me to, one, have needs to let people know what those are and to be heard.

00:23:57.939 --> 00:23:58.806
<v Jaisa>Oh my gosh.

00:23:58.869 --> 00:23:59.619
<v Jaisa>Preach girl.

00:23:59.649 --> 00:24:04.509
<v Jaisa>So that's what I'm working on and I still am very much a work in progress.

00:24:04.509 --> 00:24:11.659
<v Jaisa>But I think that, I'm finally like, just today I had a really tough morning and I actually cried on the phone with Jason.

00:24:11.689 --> 00:24:17.389
<v Jaisa>I like, don't let myself in the past do that with very many people other than my spouse.

00:24:17.419 --> 00:24:17.719
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:24:17.921 --> 00:24:26.831
<v Jaisa>I'm the same way, so I feel like it's been beautiful for me to watch myself become more vulnerable and open and just in touch with my feelings too.

00:24:27.730 --> 00:24:29.471
<v Jaisa>I'm so glad you could cry with me.

00:24:29.471 --> 00:24:31.270
<v Jaisa>Yeah, you can cry with me any day.

00:24:31.331 --> 00:24:32.171
<v Jaisa>I know I can.

00:24:32.171 --> 00:24:34.990
<v Jaisa>You're a safe space for me and I'm grateful for that all the time.

00:24:35.141 --> 00:24:41.651
<v Jaisa>But it is funny, it's like the people that are, I've just observed.

00:24:43.990 --> 00:25:03.256
<v Jaisa>So obviously there's been moments of like really tough things where I've gotten emotional and certain individuals just cannot handle those deep emotions and'cause it's, it's hard to see somebody in pain and their response will be, well, it's okay and everything's gonna be okay.

00:25:03.276 --> 00:25:06.986
<v Jaisa>And, and, I would get

00:25:07.131 --> 00:25:07.641
<v Rachael>uncom,

00:25:07.736 --> 00:25:10.885
<v Jaisa>would be like, oh, I am making them uncomfortable.

00:25:11.040 --> 00:25:11.821
<v Jaisa>Oh my God, babe.

00:25:12.040 --> 00:25:27.690
<v Jaisa>So now I have to say everything's fine because I don't want social awkwardness is like my Achilles, y'all like, if there's more than a two second pause in conversation, I'm like, beep.

00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:28.860
<v Jaisa>Like I can't handle it.

00:25:29.549 --> 00:25:32.930
<v Jaisa>And so, so I will literally lie.

00:25:33.410 --> 00:25:34.819
<v Jaisa>To somebody I'm close to.

00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:35.670
<v Jaisa>Not you, but yeah.

00:25:35.750 --> 00:25:41.325
<v Jaisa>Because like sometimes I would just break down randomly or whatever and don't cry, don't cry.

00:25:41.351 --> 00:25:41.980
<v Rachael>don't cry.

00:25:42.280 --> 00:25:47.295
<v Jaisa>And that is our response to people that are showing deep emotions.

00:25:47.295 --> 00:25:49.362
<v Jaisa>And I think a lot of this is society.

00:25:49.684 --> 00:25:54.075
<v Jaisa>A lot of this is we ha and oh God, especially with men oh my gosh, especially with men.

00:25:54.434 --> 00:25:56.955
<v Jaisa>But like I know we have to normalize.

00:25:57.269 --> 00:26:00.150
<v Jaisa>These normal human emotions or our kids will never get it.

00:26:00.180 --> 00:26:05.460
<v Jaisa>They will never feel safe to, to what you're saying, to show emotions if we don't model it.

00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:05.850
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:26:05.900 --> 00:26:14.644
<v Jaisa>And like I, Roman has such a strong reaction when I'm crying and I will just say sometimes even mommys and daddys get sad.

00:26:14.644 --> 00:26:14.884
<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

00:26:15.544 --> 00:26:18.034
<v Jaisa>And when you're an adult you're gonna get sad too.

00:26:18.183 --> 00:26:18.390
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:26:18.690 --> 00:26:19.259
<v Rachael>And

00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:21.574
<v Jaisa>watching how you work through that.

00:26:21.903 --> 00:26:23.884
<v Jaisa>How you process that.

00:26:23.973 --> 00:26:24.183
<v Jaisa>Yep.

00:26:24.244 --> 00:26:25.413
<v Jaisa>It's so important.

00:26:25.473 --> 00:26:34.715
<v Jaisa>And you just mirrored something back to me of when I've shared one of my children's struggles with anxiety and when she first started

00:26:35.015 --> 00:26:35.345
<v Rachael>mm-hmm.

00:26:35.644 --> 00:26:39.084
<v Jaisa>Showing that my reaction oftentimes was just what you said.

00:26:39.234 --> 00:26:39.804
<v Jaisa>You're fine.

00:26:40.104 --> 00:26:40.703
<v Jaisa>Oh, we're good.

00:26:41.124 --> 00:26:41.968
<v Jaisa>We got this.

00:26:41.968 --> 00:26:47.668
<v Jaisa>like tap dancing around, which only makes the person feel one more alone and.

00:26:48.073 --> 00:26:48.653
<v Jaisa>Two.

00:26:48.763 --> 00:26:50.293
<v Jaisa>Like it doesn't help.

00:26:50.353 --> 00:26:51.653
<v Jaisa>Like it's dismissive.

00:26:51.883 --> 00:26:52.873
<v Jaisa>Exactly.

00:26:52.873 --> 00:27:04.523
<v Jaisa>Now I do a lot of, as I've been coached too through this, on how to parent with that and it's acknowledging and sitting with and trying to just normalize.

00:27:04.523 --> 00:27:04.942
<v Jaisa>Yep.

00:27:05.003 --> 00:27:06.528
<v Jaisa>We're having this feeling.

00:27:06.567 --> 00:27:06.708
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:27:06.768 --> 00:27:07.613
<v Jaisa>And that's okay.

00:27:07.702 --> 00:27:08.363
<v Jaisa>It's okay.

00:27:08.513 --> 00:27:09.833
<v Jaisa>And don't be scared of it.

00:27:09.863 --> 00:27:11.033
<v Jaisa>Yes, I know.

00:27:11.033 --> 00:27:12.773
<v Jaisa>And we can still move forward.

00:27:12.833 --> 00:27:13.073
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:27:13.073 --> 00:27:14.633
<v Jaisa>Even though we're having this feeling.

00:27:15.248 --> 00:27:18.698
<v Jaisa>We're not gonna let it stop us from living life, but we can acknowledge that.

00:27:18.851 --> 00:27:21.728
<v Jaisa>Yeah, this isn't very comfortable right now, but we'll get through it.

00:27:21.968 --> 00:27:30.332
<v Jaisa>Don't you think It's so interesting that both of us the thing that we wanna break for future generations are around, like emotional safety in different ways.

00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:32.804
<v Jaisa>I, I really want, I want to like.

00:27:33.362 --> 00:27:35.564
<v Jaisa>You guys, I'm so curious.

00:27:35.564 --> 00:27:38.744
<v Jaisa>Spend some time, maybe that's what the activity could be this week.

00:27:39.014 --> 00:27:39.223
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:27:39.354 --> 00:27:39.644
<v Jaisa>Spend

00:27:39.653 --> 00:27:40.104
<v Rachael>Reflecting

00:27:40.124 --> 00:27:40.784
<v Jaisa>some time.

00:27:40.844 --> 00:27:41.203
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:27:41.294 --> 00:27:49.735
<v Jaisa>Journaling and reflecting and really thinking about, I like, it's not just it's sometimes it's really hard to figure out what you want to heal in yourself.

00:27:49.740 --> 00:27:49.950
<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

00:27:50.170 --> 00:27:54.955
<v Jaisa>So I think like an almost an easier way is like, what do I want for my children?

00:27:55.009 --> 00:27:55.430
<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

00:27:55.657 --> 00:27:57.606
<v Jaisa>how do I want my children to feel?

00:27:58.096 --> 00:28:03.034
<v Jaisa>Yeah, I was gonna say, and also reflecting back on in my family of origin, yes.

00:28:03.038 --> 00:28:03.719
<v Jaisa>What didn't I like?

00:28:04.379 --> 00:28:08.014
<v Jaisa>How did really think about, how did I feel as a child in my home?

00:28:08.223 --> 00:28:10.173
<v Jaisa>What did I like, what did I not like?

00:28:10.413 --> 00:28:11.844
<v Jaisa>What, what were my pain points?

00:28:11.844 --> 00:28:12.984
<v Jaisa>What were my struggles?

00:28:13.403 --> 00:28:18.413
<v Jaisa>Because that, a lot of times will show where the wounds are both in yourself and in your family.

00:28:18.534 --> 00:28:23.334
<v Jaisa>Rach, what do you think about doing like a little generational trauma?

00:28:23.484 --> 00:28:24.683
<v Jaisa>That sounds really intense.

00:28:24.764 --> 00:28:26.473
<v Jaisa>Healing your epigenetic

00:28:27.600 --> 00:28:27.951
<v Rachael>Fucks up

00:28:28.094 --> 00:28:28.423
<v Jaisa>fucks up gene.

00:28:31.605 --> 00:28:32.296
<v Jaisa>Something like that.

00:28:32.301 --> 00:28:32.861
<v Jaisa>Something like that.

00:28:32.861 --> 00:28:35.905
<v Jaisa>We'll, we'll workshop the title you guys, but no.

00:28:35.966 --> 00:28:44.415
<v Jaisa>We'll post something, we'll leave something around some really helpful prompts because I don't know, I'm just feeling really passionate about this, they get the ripple effects.

00:28:44.456 --> 00:28:47.665
<v Jaisa>I've got three kids say they have two to three kids, right?

00:28:47.665 --> 00:28:48.956
<v Jaisa>Like we're talking about

00:28:49.076 --> 00:28:49.136
<v Rachael>Ppe.

00:28:49.665 --> 00:28:52.786
<v Jaisa>it just the, the, the us.

00:28:52.786 --> 00:28:53.806
<v Jaisa>Just us.

00:28:53.836 --> 00:28:55.456
<v Jaisa>What we can influence.

00:28:55.486 --> 00:28:59.746
<v Jaisa>And here's something interesting too that a healer told me.

00:28:59.806 --> 00:29:07.636
<v Jaisa>Yeah, I worked with a woman who she's so awesome, so she has Native American heritage and her great grandma and grandma.

00:29:07.811 --> 00:29:09.306
<v Jaisa>I think were both medicine women.

00:29:09.801 --> 00:29:12.441
<v Jaisa>So very tied to ancestral Yes.

00:29:12.441 --> 00:29:14.797
<v Jaisa>Ties right in that, culture.

00:29:15.336 --> 00:29:25.747
<v Jaisa>And she was telling me as we were working through some healing stuff, she said The beauty of healing yourself is you're not only healing yourself in future generations, you actually are going back and healing those who came before you.

00:29:26.317 --> 00:29:29.947
<v Jaisa>So I don't know if that has some tie between there is no existence of time and space.

00:29:29.947 --> 00:29:30.307
<v Jaisa>Definitely.

00:29:30.307 --> 00:29:34.447
<v Jaisa>But she was saying that by us healing, we really are breaking the cycle.

00:29:34.563 --> 00:29:37.146
<v Jaisa>Not only now, but in the past and.

00:29:37.567 --> 00:29:40.146
<v Jaisa>I have to just share something that was so moving and cool.

00:29:40.177 --> 00:29:40.507
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:29:40.567 --> 00:29:44.043
<v Jaisa>And she told me that in my ancestry.

00:29:44.257 --> 00:29:54.962
<v Jaisa>She's I just get this vi, she's very intuitive, so she's I just get this vision of like woman after woman after woman through all these generations and they all have masks on and they just are all wearing their mask.

00:29:54.962 --> 00:29:56.222
<v Jaisa>And she's and then it gets to you.

00:29:56.222 --> 00:29:57.573
<v Jaisa>And I see the mask coming off.

00:29:58.623 --> 00:29:58.982
<v Jaisa>Oh

00:29:59.459 --> 00:29:59.818
<v Rachael>my

00:30:00.573 --> 00:30:01.383
<v Jaisa>my gosh.

00:30:01.428 --> 00:30:01.518
<v Jaisa>What

00:30:01.824 --> 00:30:02.114
<v Rachael>what?

00:30:02.898 --> 00:30:03.258
<v Jaisa>I know.

00:30:03.258 --> 00:30:04.337
<v Jaisa>Isn't that cool?

00:30:04.398 --> 00:30:05.718
<v Jaisa>I have goosebumps all over my body.

00:30:05.718 --> 00:30:05.778
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:30:05.807 --> 00:30:09.738
<v Jaisa>So it's, it's amazing work that we all can do.

00:30:09.738 --> 00:30:14.748
<v Jaisa>We all can choose to step up and be the cycle breaker.

00:30:15.378 --> 00:30:16.008
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:30:16.008 --> 00:30:16.248
<v Jaisa>And

00:30:16.548 --> 00:30:17.238
<v Rachael>that's the beauty of

00:30:17.692 --> 00:30:18.442
<v Jaisa>as the genetic step.

00:30:18.471 --> 00:30:18.892
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:30:18.892 --> 00:30:21.592
<v Jaisa>It's always changing and we can be the ones to be the change.

00:30:21.622 --> 00:30:22.221
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:30:22.221 --> 00:30:41.862
<v Jaisa>I think that it's so empowering and it really just, I don't know, it lit fire that conversation I had around like emotional availability and creating space for not just the happy emotions, but the really hard emotions and I feel like I do a good job and my kids are like, oh, I'm scared of blah, blah, blah, but it's attached to fear, right?

00:30:41.862 --> 00:30:48.971
<v Jaisa>It's like a, like the clip deeper, which I realized was like, I'm so scared of these deep emotions because of what it means.

00:30:48.971 --> 00:30:51.461
<v Jaisa>Like I am scared to admit that I'm.

00:30:52.152 --> 00:30:56.292
<v Jaisa>Afraid because that means that there's a possibility that I could lose my son.

00:30:56.297 --> 00:30:56.567
<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

00:30:56.622 --> 00:30:58.481
<v Jaisa>That's really what it was.

00:30:58.542 --> 00:30:58.872
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:30:59.292 --> 00:31:05.681
<v Jaisa>And I never asked my son or acknowledged how hard it was.

00:31:05.681 --> 00:31:16.951
<v Jaisa>'cause I felt like it was my job to make sure that he was positive and he had, his eye on the prize and we're going to be doing this rah rah team and.

00:31:17.581 --> 00:31:18.571
<v Jaisa>That's great.

00:31:18.721 --> 00:31:25.441
<v Jaisa>You know, there's a time and place for that, but there's certainly a time and place to be like, yeah, this has sucked.

00:31:25.711 --> 00:31:25.891
<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

00:31:26.161 --> 00:31:32.045
<v Jaisa>You have been through so much in two years, and are you okay?

00:31:32.401 --> 00:31:32.671
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:31:32.671 --> 00:31:33.750
<v Jaisa>How does that feel?

00:31:33.750 --> 00:31:34.471
<v Jaisa>Tell me about it.

00:31:34.471 --> 00:31:37.404
<v Jaisa>Like what, what, what do you think about when you think about your treatment?

00:31:38.065 --> 00:31:38.634
<v Jaisa>Think about that.

00:31:38.634 --> 00:31:42.265
<v Jaisa>I never asked him that, and it wasn't because I didn't care.

00:31:42.444 --> 00:31:50.875
<v Jaisa>No, it was because I was afraid of Showing anything else except strength and positivity, and we're gonna do this.

00:31:51.080 --> 00:31:51.170
<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

00:31:51.176 --> 00:31:51.266
<v Rachael>Mm-hmm.

00:31:51.566 --> 00:32:01.700
<v Jaisa>So I just realized that like acknowledging his pain did not impact the fact that I believed with my heart of hearts that he was gonna be okay.

00:32:01.910 --> 00:32:02.029
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:32:02.059 --> 00:32:04.460
<v Jaisa>And I thought that those two couldn't exist together.

00:32:04.549 --> 00:32:04.789
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:32:04.819 --> 00:32:10.039
<v Jaisa>And I realize now that's exactly how my parents are.

00:32:10.100 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Jaisa>I'm sure how their parents were.

00:32:11.840 --> 00:32:14.600
<v Jaisa>And it was coming from such a loving, protective place.

00:32:15.095 --> 00:32:23.315
<v Jaisa>But in truth, like I think the real healing is usually like a couple layers deeper than what you actually think you need to heal.

00:32:23.315 --> 00:32:23.404
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:32:23.555 --> 00:32:27.394
<v Jaisa>Because I thought I was just uncomfortable with negative emotions and I was like, no, no, no.

00:32:27.394 --> 00:32:29.914
<v Jaisa>I'm uncomfortable losing somebody I love.

00:32:30.065 --> 00:32:30.575
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:32:30.634 --> 00:32:32.015
<v Jaisa>Which is a valid Yes, of

00:32:32.315 --> 00:32:32.431
<v Rachael>fear.

00:32:32.431 --> 00:32:32.971
<v Rachael>Of course.

00:32:33.394 --> 00:32:38.045
<v Jaisa>I think you said something that's, that is also really key in that.

00:32:38.105 --> 00:32:38.134
<v Jaisa>Okay.

00:32:38.795 --> 00:32:42.559
<v Jaisa>Our parents and people who came before us were also just doing the best they could.

00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:42.561
<v Jaisa>Could.

00:32:42.566 --> 00:32:43.144
<v Jaisa>Hundred percent.

00:32:43.144 --> 00:32:54.585
<v Jaisa>So I, to be gentle, as you're reflecting back on this So true and as you're thinking back, to your own parents, they were all just doing the best they could with where they were at at that time and what they had.

00:32:54.625 --> 00:32:54.895
<v Rachael>they had been

00:32:55.005 --> 00:32:58.725
<v Jaisa>Because like you just said, I was doing it out of love.

00:32:58.725 --> 00:32:59.565
<v Jaisa>I know that.

00:32:59.947 --> 00:33:00.967
<v Jaisa>things with my mom.

00:33:00.977 --> 00:33:08.336
<v Jaisa>I know she was doing it out of love and she did it because she thought that's what we needed or what, Yes.

00:33:08.366 --> 00:33:10.418
<v Jaisa>What was required, to help us the most.

00:33:10.418 --> 00:33:16.238
<v Jaisa>So just be gentle with that's your family and that was around you as you're reflecting back, right?

00:33:16.238 --> 00:33:16.898
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:33:16.898 --> 00:33:16.958
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:33:17.077 --> 00:33:21.008
<v Jaisa>This is more about vulnerability than it is.

00:33:21.038 --> 00:33:21.158
<v Jaisa>Blame.

00:33:21.663 --> 00:33:22.054
<v Rachael>blame.

00:33:22.388 --> 00:33:29.398
<v Jaisa>And one thing, as I put my health coaching hat on too, like in order for anything to change, we have to have awareness of it.

00:33:29.518 --> 00:33:29.817
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:33:29.817 --> 00:33:35.788
<v Jaisa>And so this really is just a practice of we have to become aware of what needs to be fixed in order to do anything about it.

00:33:37.138 --> 00:33:37.738
<v Jaisa>Oh my God.

00:33:38.458 --> 00:33:39.117
<v Jaisa>Bingo.

00:33:39.238 --> 00:33:39.807
<v Jaisa>That's the thing.

00:33:39.928 --> 00:33:41.847
<v Jaisa>And like half of this is.

00:33:43.082 --> 00:33:45.538
<v Jaisa>That part of it, that part of the journey.

00:33:45.628 --> 00:33:45.718
<v Jaisa>Mm-hmm.

00:33:45.958 --> 00:33:49.978
<v Jaisa>Like you can't truly heal yourself until you actually know there is to heal.

00:33:50.008 --> 00:34:04.489
<v Jaisa>And for me personally, even though I've been on this spiritual healing journey for years now, I did not have an awareness of what I really, what the, what this journey for me was.

00:34:04.598 --> 00:34:13.598
<v Jaisa>I don't know how to describe this, like it's not that God was like, I am going to give this child a life-threatening diagnosis.

00:34:13.628 --> 00:34:21.548
<v Jaisa>It's not that, but I really believe that our entire family's journey through this has been divinely orchestrated.

00:34:21.953 --> 00:34:33.313
<v Jaisa>And I don't like, even despite being two years into this process, I didn't actually know what it truly was that I needed to heal for those future generations.

00:34:33.344 --> 00:34:38.713
<v Jaisa>Like I started to understand, but it wasn't until she was like, well, have you asked your kids that?

00:34:38.923 --> 00:34:40.634
<v Jaisa>And I was like, holy shit.

00:34:40.963 --> 00:34:43.333
<v Jaisa>Those are the truth bombs I love in therapy.

00:34:43.378 --> 00:34:43.574
<v Jaisa>I know.

00:34:43.875 --> 00:34:44.235
<v Rachael>where it's

00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:45.643
<v Jaisa>And I just was like, yeah.

00:34:45.643 --> 00:34:46.483
<v Jaisa>Oh my gosh.

00:34:47.128 --> 00:34:47.578
<v Jaisa>It is me.

00:34:47.578 --> 00:34:48.148
<v Jaisa>I'm the problem.

00:34:48.148 --> 00:34:48.598
<v Jaisa>It's me.

00:34:48.654 --> 00:34:48.735
<v Rachael>Know?

00:34:49.083 --> 00:34:49.203
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:34:49.494 --> 00:34:49.744
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:34:49.744 --> 00:34:51.844
<v Jaisa>And like I would've never thought that.

00:34:51.873 --> 00:34:51.933
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:34:51.933 --> 00:34:53.884
<v Jaisa>So that's so, so spot on.

00:34:53.884 --> 00:34:58.953
<v Jaisa>Like it's not just about the healing, it's really getting to what it is that needs to be healed.

00:34:58.953 --> 00:34:59.014
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:34:59.014 --> 00:35:00.813
<v Jaisa>Because I believe we all are intuitive.

00:35:01.143 --> 00:35:03.183
<v Jaisa>We all know what our soul needs, Mm-hmm.

00:35:03.183 --> 00:35:05.853
<v Jaisa>Sometimes we just need some tools, but we get in our own way.

00:35:05.913 --> 00:35:06.603
<v Jaisa>So often.

00:35:06.663 --> 00:35:06.933
<v Jaisa>Oh my gosh.

00:35:06.933 --> 00:35:08.943
<v Jaisa>And we're really good at lying to ourselves.

00:35:09.304 --> 00:35:10.293
<v Jaisa>I'm best at it.

00:35:10.293 --> 00:35:10.804
<v Jaisa>Me too.

00:35:10.853 --> 00:35:12.369
<v Jaisa>Those size zero will fit me again.

00:35:13.328 --> 00:35:14.588
<v Jaisa>I know one, one day.

00:35:14.588 --> 00:35:14.949
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:35:14.949 --> 00:35:16.598
<v Jaisa>I will squeeze it to those puppies.

00:35:17.438 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Jaisa>So this reminds me too, not to get us off track, but I, another time in therapy where I had one of those moments where it was like, oh my God, I didn't even know that needed to be fixed.

00:35:28.598 --> 00:35:28.719
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:35:28.808 --> 00:35:38.855
<v Jaisa>Was I, it was like the first time I was meeting with this gal and I'm giving her the rundown of everything and I'm, talking about like my history and she's asking me more questions and then.

00:35:39.230 --> 00:35:40.759
<v Jaisa>She's well, were your parents ever separated?

00:35:40.759 --> 00:35:42.649
<v Jaisa>And I was like, yeah, they got divorced.

00:35:42.649 --> 00:35:48.634
<v Jaisa>And there was some, my dad worked a lot and wasn't really around in my childhood, that's not that's not, I don't think that's a big deal.

00:35:48.784 --> 00:35:49.924
<v Jaisa>You're like, that's a knee appendix.

00:35:49.924 --> 00:35:50.164
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:35:50.164 --> 00:35:51.605
<v Jaisa>I'm like, that's not really anything.

00:35:51.605 --> 00:35:53.644
<v Jaisa>And she goes, oh, I think that's everything.

00:35:54.424 --> 00:35:55.954
<v Jaisa>And I was like, huh.

00:35:58.144 --> 00:35:58.654
<v Jaisa>Snap.

00:35:58.714 --> 00:35:59.224
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:35:59.224 --> 00:36:01.894
<v Jaisa>But know another perfect example of, it's so true.

00:36:01.894 --> 00:36:03.125
<v Jaisa>Here I am living my life.

00:36:03.649 --> 00:36:07.099
<v Jaisa>Thinking that doesn't have any impact on me anymore.

00:36:07.549 --> 00:36:12.689
<v Jaisa>And she's oh no, that's like the root of 90% of what we're working with here.

00:36:12.809 --> 00:36:13.139
<v Jaisa>yeah.

00:36:13.144 --> 00:36:13.625
<v Jaisa>Isn't that incredible?

00:36:13.644 --> 00:36:16.019
<v Jaisa>So awareness is everything, so I know,

00:36:16.120 --> 00:36:16.630
<v Rachael>be open.

00:36:16.931 --> 00:36:17.879
<v Jaisa>awareness is everything.

00:36:17.879 --> 00:36:20.250
<v Jaisa>And like perspective shift is everything.

00:36:20.324 --> 00:36:23.699
<v Jaisa>And like I am convinced that we can go through quantum leaps.

00:36:23.699 --> 00:36:25.739
<v Jaisa>Like we can go through.

00:36:26.264 --> 00:36:30.674
<v Jaisa>Years of therapy in a time of just like a realization like that.

00:36:30.734 --> 00:36:30.855
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:36:30.855 --> 00:36:34.234
<v Jaisa>And how quickly we can change and see everything through a new lens.

00:36:34.234 --> 00:36:36.154
<v Jaisa>That's literally a quantum shift.

00:36:36.154 --> 00:36:37.774
<v Jaisa>You know what would be really helpful too?

00:36:37.774 --> 00:36:41.464
<v Jaisa>What I just thought of this, I'm gonna add this into our little resource document.

00:36:41.464 --> 00:36:41.914
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:36:42.004 --> 00:36:46.085
<v Jaisa>You fill out, this should be like a, if you have a spouse.

00:36:46.114 --> 00:36:46.504
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:36:46.504 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Jaisa>This should be a partner exercise.

00:36:48.660 --> 00:36:48.990
<v Rachael>Oh, I love this.

00:36:49.045 --> 00:36:49.245
<v Rachael>And

00:36:49.324 --> 00:36:49.545
<v Jaisa>Oh, I love this.

00:36:49.564 --> 00:36:51.394
<v Jaisa>And they should talk about your family.

00:36:51.980 --> 00:36:59.480
<v Jaisa>And you should talk about theirs because the reality is they're coming in as an objective observer and probably.

00:37:00.500 --> 00:37:05.539
<v Jaisa>Have been able to identify much more quickly the dysfunction or the issues that exist.

00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:05.989
<v Jaisa>Oh my gosh.

00:37:05.989 --> 00:37:08.179
<v Jaisa>How fun would it be to fill out a questionnaire on your in-laws?

00:37:09.469 --> 00:37:12.109
<v Jaisa>Be like, I, this is not a homework assignment, but it's true.

00:37:12.109 --> 00:37:13.699
<v Jaisa>Ryan has helped me see things.

00:37:13.699 --> 00:37:14.539
<v Jaisa>Yeah, absolutely.

00:37:14.539 --> 00:37:15.259
<v Jaisa>So my,

00:37:15.395 --> 00:37:15.815
<v Rachael>know,

00:37:16.034 --> 00:37:16.254
<v Jaisa>and

00:37:16.385 --> 00:37:16.715
<v Rachael>And it's

00:37:17.015 --> 00:37:19.569
<v Jaisa>spot it's a because it's, it was our normal, yes.

00:37:19.569 --> 00:37:22.599
<v Jaisa>It was our normal and it's like we just said, you can lie yourself.

00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:24.639
<v Jaisa>You, you don't notice things in the same way.

00:37:25.089 --> 00:37:25.899
<v Jaisa>'cause it was your.

00:37:26.424 --> 00:37:27.444
<v Jaisa>It was your reality.

00:37:27.474 --> 00:37:28.824
<v Jaisa>It was your It's so true.

00:37:28.855 --> 00:37:29.184
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:37:29.304 --> 00:37:29.754
<v Jaisa>Oh my gosh.

00:37:29.844 --> 00:37:30.414
<v Jaisa>Fun.

00:37:30.414 --> 00:37:30.804
<v Jaisa>I know.

00:37:30.809 --> 00:37:31.389
<v Jaisa>So there you go guys.

00:37:31.394 --> 00:37:32.394
<v Jaisa>So get divorced over this.

00:37:32.394 --> 00:37:32.574
<v Jaisa>Okay.

00:37:32.574 --> 00:37:32.724
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:37:32.934 --> 00:37:36.054
<v Jaisa>Don't, it's, it's for awareness only.

00:37:36.054 --> 00:37:39.144
<v Jaisa>And you have empathy also for the other families.

00:37:39.174 --> 00:37:39.414
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:37:39.414 --> 00:37:39.804
<v Jaisa>They wear the,

00:37:39.830 --> 00:37:40.040
<v Rachael>this

00:37:40.074 --> 00:37:40.469
<v Jaisa>like That's true.

00:37:40.469 --> 00:37:43.134
<v Jaisa>Just like we have empathy with our parents.

00:37:43.434 --> 00:37:45.174
<v Jaisa>Empathy with your in-laws.

00:37:45.174 --> 00:37:46.379
<v Jaisa>Everybody should, everybody's doing the best we can.

00:37:46.384 --> 00:37:48.774
<v Jaisa>Everybody is doing the best that they can.

00:37:48.774 --> 00:37:51.294
<v Jaisa>And they could, our friend Renee would be like, but are they?

00:37:51.625 --> 00:37:51.684
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:37:53.004 --> 00:37:54.144
<v Jaisa>Shout out to Renee.

00:37:54.174 --> 00:37:55.014
<v Jaisa>Yeah, Renee.

00:37:55.014 --> 00:37:56.094
<v Jaisa>I remember that was like, we

00:37:56.260 --> 00:37:56.380
<v Rachael>I

00:37:56.574 --> 00:37:58.074
<v Jaisa>a happy hour for your birthday.

00:37:58.074 --> 00:37:59.484
<v Jaisa>And Ryan, Ryan would say that too.

00:37:59.514 --> 00:38:00.234
<v Jaisa>They were in agreement.

00:38:00.234 --> 00:38:01.105
<v Jaisa>Oh my gosh.

00:38:01.164 --> 00:38:01.434
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:38:01.524 --> 00:38:02.424
<v Jaisa>It was so funny.

00:38:02.424 --> 00:38:04.019
<v Jaisa>She's but but are people.

00:38:04.019 --> 00:38:05.250
<v Jaisa>And I was like, oh, I don't know.

00:38:05.250 --> 00:38:07.500
<v Jaisa>is that a hypothetical or am I supposed to answer this?

00:38:07.500 --> 00:38:12.239
<v Jaisa>This was, was it a question on a podcast that was, it was a Jay Brown, right?

00:38:12.269 --> 00:38:13.619
<v Jaisa>Or no, Glennon Doyle.

00:38:13.649 --> 00:38:14.189
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:38:14.189 --> 00:38:14.192
<v Jaisa>One of them.

00:38:14.250 --> 00:38:15.059
<v Jaisa>Yes, yes, yes.

00:38:15.059 --> 00:38:17.819
<v Jaisa>And it was, do you think people are doing the best that they can?

00:38:17.909 --> 00:38:18.960
<v Jaisa>That was the question.

00:38:19.335 --> 00:38:21.014
<v Jaisa>And they know context.

00:38:21.014 --> 00:38:22.004
<v Jaisa>That's the question.

00:38:22.064 --> 00:38:22.436
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:38:22.605 --> 00:38:28.934
<v Jaisa>And it was so funny'cause we were talking and she asked it to post it to Ryan and I Yeah.

00:38:29.024 --> 00:38:32.085
<v Jaisa>And she's, she's I have my guess on what your answer is.

00:38:32.330 --> 00:38:32.630
<v Rachael>are gonna be.

00:38:33.194 --> 00:38:37.514
<v Jaisa>And sure enough, I'm like, yes, they absolutely argue with, and Ryan's no they're not.

00:38:40.125 --> 00:38:42.464
<v Jaisa>You can always do better shape up losers.

00:38:43.364 --> 00:38:45.524
<v Jaisa>Uh, no, I, I didn't know how to answer it.

00:38:45.554 --> 00:38:47.294
<v Jaisa>'cause I was like, well, sometimes she's no.

00:38:47.804 --> 00:38:48.194
<v Jaisa>It's yes or no.

00:38:48.295 --> 00:38:48.596
<v Rachael>or no.

00:38:48.884 --> 00:38:49.244
<v Jaisa>And I was like,

00:38:49.270 --> 00:38:49.471
<v Rachael>was like,

00:38:49.770 --> 00:38:50.054
<v Jaisa>what?

00:38:50.654 --> 00:38:50.924
<v Jaisa>No.

00:38:51.074 --> 00:38:51.404
<v Jaisa>But yeah.

00:38:51.404 --> 00:38:52.125
<v Jaisa>So there's another one

00:38:52.135 --> 00:38:53.294
<v Rachael>one you can add into the,

00:38:53.594 --> 00:38:55.394
<v Jaisa>to the, into the mix too, for sure.

00:38:55.444 --> 00:38:56.074
<v Jaisa>This was good.

00:38:56.134 --> 00:38:58.234
<v Jaisa>Yes, guys, like we would love to hear from you.

00:38:58.234 --> 00:38:59.434
<v Jaisa>I'm so curious.

00:38:59.484 --> 00:39:01.134
<v Jaisa>We'll post a reel on Instagram.

00:39:01.134 --> 00:39:01.884
<v Jaisa>Please respond.

00:39:01.884 --> 00:39:05.904
<v Jaisa>I wanna know what do you think it is in your family or in your, yeah.

00:39:05.934 --> 00:39:07.944
<v Jaisa>How are you gonna break the cycle?

00:39:07.944 --> 00:39:09.594
<v Jaisa>How are you gonna break the cycle?

00:39:10.210 --> 00:39:11.319
<v Jaisa>We're back, baby.

00:39:11.349 --> 00:39:12.159
<v Jaisa>Oh my God, I love it.

00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:12.939
<v Jaisa>This is so fun.

00:39:12.939 --> 00:39:14.409
<v Jaisa>It's so fun to be back in the studio.

00:39:14.409 --> 00:39:15.489
<v Jaisa>In the new studio.

00:39:15.489 --> 00:39:16.329
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:39:16.389 --> 00:39:17.019
<v Jaisa>Yes.

00:39:17.019 --> 00:39:19.210
<v Jaisa>Gosh, the energy is good.

00:39:19.689 --> 00:39:20.409
<v Jaisa>All right, guys.

00:39:20.701 --> 00:39:22.710
<v Jaisa>we love talking to you today.

00:39:22.980 --> 00:39:23.400
<v Jaisa>Oh gosh.

00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:27.810
<v Jaisa>It feels like we could do 30 episodes on this topic, but next we're actually gonna be pivoting to.

00:39:28.750 --> 00:39:29.860
<v Jaisa>some biblical stuff.

00:39:29.860 --> 00:39:30.670
<v Jaisa>So, um,

00:39:30.771 --> 00:39:31.011
<v Rachael>about

00:39:31.030 --> 00:39:31.311
<v Jaisa>talk about that.

00:39:31.330 --> 00:39:31.721
<v Jaisa>Me too, me too.

00:39:31.721 --> 00:39:36.310
<v Jaisa>Like Rachel, spirit outspoken, healing the female generational voice.

00:39:36.340 --> 00:39:36.490
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:39:36.540 --> 00:39:41.820
<v Jaisa>epigenetics quickly led to what did Jesus actually do and say about women.

00:39:41.890 --> 00:39:41.951
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:39:41.951 --> 00:39:43.600
<v Jaisa>And what was his approach to.

00:39:43.910 --> 00:39:51.020
<v Jaisa>female leadership, really elevating the female voice, which, as two female co-hosts of a spirituality podcast, we wanted to know.

00:39:51.025 --> 00:39:51.545
<v Jaisa>We are

00:39:51.576 --> 00:39:51.577
<v Rachael>more.

00:39:51.577 --> 00:39:51.731
<v Rachael>We gotta go

00:39:51.890 --> 00:39:51.980
<v Jaisa>we.

00:39:52.031 --> 00:39:52.460
<v Jaisa>Yeah.

00:39:52.580 --> 00:39:54.020
<v Jaisa>So stay tuned next week.

00:39:54.060 --> 00:39:54.931
<v Jaisa>we will be back.

00:39:55.260 --> 00:39:56.035
<v Jaisa>Bye bye.