S4E8: Volleyball Antagonists, Mid Season All-Americans, Message to Younger Volleyball Self

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Give him some credit and so he's practically on the team.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Hey, if he has any eligible well, no, I cannot say that.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Our intros are now energetic and full of life, and I'm doing today's intro because Ariel is currently parenting upstairs, and Chad has a strict schedule that he needs to be on since he's leaving for New York City tomorrow.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Larger than life, some would say.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Larger than backstreet back.

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<v Matt Houlihan>All right.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We've got a uh we got a good one today.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's mainly planned by Daniel.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh Daniel pretty much planned the entire thing, and he's probably the one person that should have the least amount of brain power since he just spent the entire weekend in a gym.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But apparently he's gets all of his creativity in convention centers.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's like a shower.

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<v Matt Houlihan>All of his best thoughts come in convention centers.

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<v Chad Gordon>Classic convention center thoughts.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So let's jump right into the first the first item on the agenda, courtesy of Daniel.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We've got volleyball's antagonist.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Who?

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<v Matt Houlihan>What it is.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Why?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Where is the antagonist of men's volleyball?

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<v Matt Houlihan>And Daniel, since this was uh one of the one of yours, let's go let's go straight over to you.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Who's who's your antagonist?

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<v Matt Houlihan>All right.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Bring in the heat.

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<v Daniel Rasay>This is because I still go on volley talk a lot, just because you know what?

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<v Daniel Rasay>You gotta know the scuttle butt from very reliable sources on the internet.

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<v Daniel Rasay>But my antagonists of volleyball are Hawai volleyball fans.

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<v Daniel Rasay>So I think it's because they're the antagonist of volley talk.

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<v Daniel Rasay>But it's I mean, it's because they care so deeply about their team, right?

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<v Daniel Rasay>And they're gonna stick up for their team, they're gonna vouch for their team, they're going to talk smack about the other team.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah.

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<v Daniel Rasay>When they anybody says anything bad about anything Hawai volleyball, they're gonna for sure put up their dukes and and throw uh mean words at other people.

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<v Daniel Rasay>They're gonna get to typing.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah.

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<v Daniel Rasay>But you know, I I think it's great to have that support from people that will stick with you through thick and thin.

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<v Daniel Rasay>I mean it's been good for them the past five, ten years, whatever it may be.

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<v Daniel Rasay>But I don't know.

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<v Daniel Rasay>They don't have the best reputation in the chat rooms, I guess.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And you know even when they travel and somebody says bad things from them from the stands, they go straight into Volley Talk and they talk about the bad things that people were saying, and I like it, but they're the antagonist.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think that's fair.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They are absolutely the antagonist of volley talk.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Anytime there's a thread on there, it's like almost guaranteed that it will somehow divulge itself into or merge into some form of a Hawaii volleyball thread.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And then the men's side is pretty heavy, you guys.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Not a lot of people.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The women's side, there's a lot more, a lot more action.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We call that parody.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And she's back from parenting.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Hello.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We're hearing about the Hawaii volleyball fans as Daniels and Teg.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Wow, you guys got through that quickly.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>How was our intro?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Was our intro good?

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<v Matt Houlihan>It was the best intro.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It was so lively.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yes, yeah, we've been cutting you out.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's because you're you're the actually the volleyball.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think I'm gonna change my answer.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Ariel is my volleyball intact.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, that's a good one.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Which honestly, that I feel like is a valid take.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That's a definitely a valid take.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's not the worst take you've ever had.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, that's a valid take.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Ariel is the is the volleyball intact.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's not actually my answer, but for the sake of that joke, I was going with it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Do you want to now that you're near you're here, I don't know the question.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I just got let's go to Chad.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Chad, we're gonna come over to you.

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<v Matt Houlihan>What who who, what, when, where, why is your volleyball antagonist?

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's not even close.

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<v Chad Gordon>It's David Niffen.

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<v Chad Gordon>Defend yourself.

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<v Chad Gordon>You defend yourself, okay?

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<v Chad Gordon>He is the nicest person, super smart, clearly puts a great product on the floor, and yet he must have done something to somebody because he has been shafted from the playoffs.

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<v Chad Gordon>Oh, that's so true.

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<v Chad Gordon>For like that is true.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That is true.

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<v Chad Gordon>I I don't understand it.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, I don't know what he did.

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<v Chad Gordon>He hasn't spoken about it publicly, and clearly he's he's a bad guy.

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<v Chad Gordon>Is that why they're not showing any of their games on TV?

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<v Chad Gordon>I think that may that may have something to do with it.

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<v Chad Gordon>Maybe if the committee can't see them play, maybe they will sneak their way in.

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<v Chad Gordon>I don't know.

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<v Chad Gordon>Maybe they'll have to actually look at their record and statistics on paper.

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<v Chad Gordon>I don't I don't know uh what he's done to to piss off somebody, but I mean it it's clear.

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<v Chad Gordon>I love this.

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<v Chad Gordon>Someone's got a problem and he must be a bad guy.

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<v Chad Gordon>I've been duped.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I love that take.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I think it's great.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The the cameras are off now that nobody can see them.

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<v Chad Gordon>That's great.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So now you just have to look at pen and paper to decide if they get in.

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<v Chad Gordon>Well, we'll see.

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<v Chad Gordon>We'll come back and we'll have an episode and we'll see when they don't make it again.

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<v Chad Gordon>That that wasn't the that wasn't the answer, but I'm I'd be shocked if they could make it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But this we are at the midway point, so I appreciate things can change.

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<v Chad Gordon>I appreciate the retaliatory nature of just like eff it.

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<v Chad Gordon>We're not streaming any of this.

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<v Chad Gordon>You don't get to watch us.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Ariel, what's your uh volatile antagonist?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I have one.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You need me to go first?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>No, I just can't.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I don't even think it matters if you go first or not because I just can't remember what it is.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's can anybody lopes down.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Oh, yeah, it's the damn athletic director at Grand Canyon.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Oh, thank you for reminding me, Matt.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Is that beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That girl needs help.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>My goodness.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Uh, the athletic director at Grand Canyon, cutting men's volleyball, and not even just cutting men's volleyball.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Sure.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>You can cut men's volleyball.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>There's reasons why to cut men's volleyball for athletic departments, no problem.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The way in which she did it makes my blood boil.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It was absolutely an atrocious act towards the kids on that team, the coaching staff, the people involved in that program, and for them to be like the fifth ranked team in the country the year before to have an incredible year and then to just go about it that way.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That girl needs that girl's pretty ruthless on my list.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh I'm going to, I'm gonna, I'm gonna I have a list.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I have a list.

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<v Matt Houlihan>She does.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's in her phone.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I have a list.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's in her phone.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So there's just if you ever see your typing after talking to you, beware.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh I'm gonna zig while you guys are zagging.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Mine is not a person, not a place.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's a more of a state of mind thing than a state of mind.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I was about to say state of mind, but it's a thing.

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<v Matt Houlihan>My volleyball antagonist is missed serves.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It is, in my eyes, the it's the clog of how you get more fans to watch the game.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Their number one complaint I hear when I have friends watch or come check things out in volleyball is it feels like there's a lot of missserves there.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And they're right, there is a ton of missserves, specifically on the men's side.

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<v Matt Houlihan>There is just a very high tolerance for missserves from a statistical perspective because it's what you need to do in order to succeed, and therefore, I think the rules and weights need to be shifted to better accommodate a better playing experience and a better watching experience for men's volleyball to grow.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So, not a person, it's a people pleasers answered.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Not yet, it's not a spicy take, it's just, but it's it's my perspective of antagonist.

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<v Chad Gordon>The parents out there that don't understand volleyball will love that take.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, no doubt.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Everybody will love that take.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We'll be like, oh Matt Hoolihan, there he goes again.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Well, it's just a new one.

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<v Chad Gordon>I'm the people, I'm the people's host over here.

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<v Chad Gordon>All I could think about was like they barely hit the ball in baseball, and we watched that sport.

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<v Chad Gordon>Like that's so true.

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<v Chad Gordon>I mean, unbelievable.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Most of pitching is yeah, volleyball is the fastest sport ever with a million points played.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Like, why are misser is a big deal?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh, because the time between rallies and the length of a rally when not even close to as long as a time as it's like.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, think about a baseball player.

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<v Matt Houlihan>A home a home run is that's exciting.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Five seconds long.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Sure.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And it happens maybe in a game.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And so in comparison, a ball or a strike is a very small blip of time in comparison to that.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So is a misser.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, but like I don't want to see like them throwing balls.

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<v Chad Gordon>Like, that's like a misserve.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Chad Gordon>Volleyball is the new big thing.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I'm gonna say the number one complaint, nice job is misserves.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like, no one wants to watch you miss a serve.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The best part of volleyball is the action.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So more action.

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<v Chad Gordon>I I agree.

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<v Chad Gordon>I agree.

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<v Chad Gordon>I just I think there's like a there's a commentary around misserves in the sport, especially on the men's side, that people, you know, you get these older people that are commentating on.

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<v Chad Gordon>They're like, oh man, they're setting too tight, and they're why are they playing so fast?

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<v Chad Gordon>And like, what's a guy jumping going flying through the air?

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<v Chad Gordon>That's not allowed.

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<v Chad Gordon>Like, what we don't need this old timey stuff.

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<v Chad Gordon>Like, what's this different colored jersey over here?

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah.

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<v Chad Gordon>Um, and I just I think if you're a fan of the men's game, then you don't ask these questions, right?

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<v Chad Gordon>Like people that people that watch understand this, right?

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<v Chad Gordon>People that don't understand that, like statistically, if you just chip it in, you get murdered.

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<v Chad Gordon>Like the math doesn't work out, right?

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<v Chad Gordon>And so I just think it's it's a reshaping of how we need to talk about it.

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<v Chad Gordon>But it can be your antagonist, it's fine.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I really like that taste.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And it's your couch.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That's a that's a good that's a good response, it's a good rebuttal.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Do you think the misserves limit the casual fan?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Do you think a casual fan sees that and goes, meh, I think change channel.

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<v Chad Gordon>I think the casual fan also has to deal with like how it's being uh explained, yeah, you know, on some telecasts that obviously who knows, I don't think Irvine's missed a serve because we can't watch, so that's probably helping them.

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<v Chad Gordon>But I I think when you have especially when you get people who are often ex-players on the women's side, or they only commentate on the women's side, and that like that's how you can get to talk about the men's game.

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<v Chad Gordon>Well, obviously, like they don't miss a lot of serves in the women's game, right?

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<v Chad Gordon>Like, yeah, though they don't side out of those same, like you know, super high clips.

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<v Chad Gordon>So you have an issue with the commentators, which is valid, and therefore I have an issue with missserves.

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<v Chad Gordon>Correct.

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<v Chad Gordon>Full circle.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So Chad's real antagonist is commentators.

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<v Matt Houlihan>No, never, never it's the play-by-play announcement.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, sometimes, but that's okay.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I actually think the misserves treed Rosenthal.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Oh my goodness.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Oh my god.

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<v Chad Gordon>Treed Rosenthal is.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The judgment calls are worse.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The ones that are like uh even uh the back row attack is confusing.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Back row attack is confusing for a random fan.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's not that confusing for us because we see it, but that's confusing.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That's a good easy one to put on a replay of like foot on the line, and you're you can you can easily understand.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Well, a misserve is a misserve.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's very cut and dry.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>They miss their serve, the other team gets a point done.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>But like the random fan who hasn't watched it before, the double is not as much of a thing anymore.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>But the other judgment calls that are happening, people are like, wait, what just happened?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Even honestly, a net violation.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>They see that and they're like, Wait, what just happened?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yes, from from the perspective of what you're watching, perspective for me as like there must have been a net.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I would say that my my explanation of this would be okay, highest level volleyball.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Right, you take um we had UCLA versus uh versus Ohio State that went 47-45.

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<v Matt Houlihan>There was at the at the end of it, very not not a ton of miss serves in terms of that actual gameplay.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It was really good volleyball across the board back and forth.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That's what people want to see.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Now, juxtapose that against Stanford versus Penn State last year, where it was a four-set match, and each of them missed 30 serves.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That is a disgusting match to watch.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, but that's not the norm.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>But no, that's a that was a ridiculously disgusting match to watch.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I wouldn't I wouldn't say that's so out of the norm.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That that's not out of the norm because that is the strategy, and there is a high volume of missing.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You're seeing teams miss seven, eight serves in a set pretty consistently.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Whereas if I go and watch a Mac Shin, um a Mac men's basketball game, it's fast paced, it's moving.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's not as good as watching Duke, North Carolina, but it's still entertaining and it's flowing, and you can see everything happening, and you kind of get into the game.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, the Mac doesn't have more stoppages because it's not Duke.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Right.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, okay.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So when UCLA's playing against USC and it's really high level and they're doing, you know, they're doing great things, yes, that's a great product, and there's still miserves there, but it's it it deprecates pretty quickly from the top of the line for men's volleyball.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So well We could move on.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We can move on.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Speaking of uh men's volleyball and takes, let's move into our mid-season.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We're about we're about halfway through here.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Mid season action.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Who are our mid-season all-Americans?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Let's uh let's flip the let's flip the order over here and let's go down to let's go down to the volleybork.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Volley dork, you want to start us off?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Who's your who who's your who's your guy?

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<v Matt Houlihan>And to be clear for all the viewers, once someone has been selected, no one else can pick someone from that team.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So we're gonna spread the love here.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So Chad, you get to start first.

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<v Chad Gordon>Uh I'm gonna pick one, Mr.

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<v Chad Gordon>Cole Hartke of the Pepperdine Waves.

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<v Chad Gordon>Um, is just such a high usage kind of guy.

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<v Chad Gordon>Like, I think so they split with UH right over the weekend, and in those eight sets total, I think he had like a hundred plus attempts.

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<v Chad Gordon>You know, is hitting three something, he's like hitting three sixty something on the year.

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<v Chad Gordon>Like, he's just one of those guys who just takes a lot of cracks at the ball and is being asked to deliver kind of night in and night out, and he's uh he's a big dude.

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<v Chad Gordon>He's a good boy.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, we'll see if he can stay healthy the rest of the year.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Alright, we'll skip over while she drinks some water, and we're gonna come right on over to Daniel Rasai, because it looks like whenever I need to think about our answer.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I can remember again.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I know I knew the symbol.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I knew the symbol there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What was mine?

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<v Chad Gordon>The Grand Canyon idiot.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, you can think about it while Danel gives his answer.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Sean Kelly.

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<v Chad Gordon>That's a good choice.

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<v Matt Houlihan>All right, Ariel T.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That wasn't mine, was it?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>No, that was mine.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay, good.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm glad.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Still a good choice.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Sean Kelly, I mean, just well-rounded game.

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<v Daniel Rasay>He is a well-rounded person.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Well-rounded person, too.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Like, I mean, that's the thing that I've been loving about watching him play is he has a smile on his face when he's playing, and he's playing with some joy and you know, coming up clutch when we were watching the USC match last week.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Um just making big plays when big plays are needed.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And I don't know, seems like he's could be a glue guy.

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<v Daniel Rasay>I don't know.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Usually the guy that brings good vibes is is a good glue guy.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And so not just putting points on the scoreboard, but also bringing the intangibles as well.

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<v unknown>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm a fan.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Do you need a nudge on your answer again?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, what's my line?

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<v Matt Houlihan>It was also your uh uh new mid-season newcomer of the year.

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<v Matt Houlihan>No, it was my newcomer.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Oh, Chad's Chad?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, no, her mid-season newcomer of the year.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Your Chad's original.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Oh, my wait.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Chad's original.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Chad's newcomer of the year was this wasn't.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Did I pick Cameron?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yes.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Oh, cool.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay, good.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So I pick Cameron.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Let's lead you into that.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Try again too.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I want this in.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm not fake.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I want this all in.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>This all needs to go in.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm just a I'm just a bot where they feed me my lines and I just spit it out.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, I have no ball knowledge at all.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm saying this as a biased, a biased person here, but I think Cameron Costy has done a phenomenal job and has been like on like newcome, like kind of a newcomer of the year for me.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, yes, I am very biased on this and love the kid, but I really do think that he's playing like really good ball and uh leading really well and uh throwing it around really well.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So serving great.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And obviously serving great.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Cam is not a we were we were talking with him down when Stanford was playing at Concordia, he came and watched the game.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We got to talk with him after, and great little quote from him.

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<v Matt Houlihan>He's like, I'm not the best true setter, but like I know how to play.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like I know this game.

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<v Matt Houlihan>He was like, I know how to win.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I know this game for so long, I know how to win.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And that is exactly what he's showing.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And he's he's proved it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I was talking to an unnamed uh other player, I will not spill who this was, um, but I was talking about how did Cameron play?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And that person said, he was great, he's just he's got he's got a little bit of an ego.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And my response to it was who doesn't that is at that level of playing good and like going after it, and like an opponent isn't gonna say he's got a little bit of a like ever most setters in the country you would say that about.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And the answer was like, yeah, absolutely, 100%.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Like you have to have a little bit of a gamer mentality of like I'm going to go and cut you to win this.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, and like that's that's something I look for in a setter for sure.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So props to props to Cam.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Props to Cam.

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<v Matt Houlihan>My midseason player of the year.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I've been on, I've been on this train for a while.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh it's my guy Patrick Rodgers, just crushing it out of ball state.

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<v Matt Houlihan>He has to Matt Woolahan.

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<v Matt Houlihan>He has to leave college at some point.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Eight years, that's too many.

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<v Matt Houlihan>No, Patrick Rogers can stay.

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<v Matt Houlihan>He can stay, and he can play.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Because that guy is fun to watch.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh, yeah, just great season thus far from him.

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<v Matt Houlihan>He is he is a high usage guy for ball state, does it all.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And yeah, just some of the some of the plays that he makes is just such a good balance of beach volleyball, grass volleyball, and indoor volleyball.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Just very patient player, super terminal when he needs to be, runs it really well in the back row.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And yeah, he's just kind of he's like a he's just a highlight reel.

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<v Matt Houlihan>All right.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We had a uh we had a full weekend.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Stanford played two matches against St.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Francis, but at the same time, the Beta Bay middle school teams headed down south under the tender love and care of one Daniel Rasai.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So, Daniel, how's our club doing?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Bunch of seconds.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, a lot of a lot of silver.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But hey, that's the best we finished with that event.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Normally we that's the only event we play in in the spring, and so it's like one and done, and yeah, it's kind of a it's always kind of a hectic one.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But we had a full day tournament before this time up in NorCal and went down south and made every open division final.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's pretty cool.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>14 1s, 13 ones, and 12 ones all made it to the final.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Matt and I were just like off of a crazy weekend, whatever.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We went to his family's house, and Matt goes, We're in the finals of all three, and I was like, sick.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And then 20 minutes later, we lost the finals of all three.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I was like, damn it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So how did it go, Daniel?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, yeah, I want I want the Daniel perspective of everything because also Daniel was back to dad volleyball dad again this weekend, too.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So maybe give us a little bit of the.

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<v Daniel Rasay>But the club, I think the future of volleyball is bright.

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<v Daniel Rasay>I think volleyball is being played at a pretty high level at the young ages, and it's like in college, it's getting more physical and faster, and it's kind of crazy the the things that these young kids can do.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>In California in California specifically, too.

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<v Daniel Rasay>I mean at Beta Bay and you know the other the other big clubs as well, and so um it was fun to watch them compete, and you know, for the beta bay teams, they have some coaches that weren't their coaches in the fall, so it's good to for them to get a different perspective from you know a different voice and experience, which I think is great for these young athletes as well.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And um yeah, it was fun to watch all of them play.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Awesome.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Love it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And we had uh we had Eli Rasai on the 11 ones.

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<v Matt Houlihan>How was uh how was how was that?

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<v Matt Houlihan>We had the whole fam down, Ann was down, we had Kellen down there.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, give us the give us the parent perspective.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Um I've watched a lot of parents watch their kids play volleyball and have taken a lot of notes in I don't know, just do's and don'ts of it.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And um I was actually writing about this today, and when specifically when Eli was playing and he was making mistakes, like I could shout out everything that he needs to do in order to not fail.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And as parents, right, we we want to protect our our kids from shame and failure, and that's why we have helicopter parents and snowplow parents.

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<v Daniel Rasay>But at one point I had to reflect and be like, is it am I protecting him or am I protecting myself, right?

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<v Daniel Rasay>Because I've coached for a long time, and if my kid is not very good, are people gonna look at me and be like, What are you doing?

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<v Daniel Rasay>Why isn't your kid any better?

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<v Daniel Rasay>And so I had to separate my anxiety from his or potentially his to be able to just sit there and enjoy him playing volleyball and not worry about it.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Like sports is a place.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Where failure should be somewhat safe and I want him to fail so he learns and grows and I want it to be his thing and not my thing.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And it still bubbles up of like I sh I want to say something, but I'm not going to because he'll learn and his coaches are doing a great job of coaching him and they'll teach him the right things.

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<v Daniel Rasay>But it's just it's just an interesting perspective.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And you know, I wrote on my Instagram some rules of just not complaining about spending long hours in the gym, um, you know, really focusing on the positive things and asking if he wants feedback.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Um but and just giving lots of hugs, and my kid loves hugs, and it was great to just hug him as he came off the court and say great job.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So but that's awesome.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Good good notes on parenting.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I saw that that post go up.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Um I think you posted it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Maybe maybe heading to the airport or whatever.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, we were sitting at the airport.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, and I I just started reading and I was like, this is yeah, it's such just such good information, but also just such a good reflection of some of the coolest things that happen in this in this job.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, right.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Is is watching kids grow up, parents grow up, have those experiences together.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That's every year when we do our 18 teams talks, the parents always will say they are so grateful for the time they spent in the car with their kids.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Getting just one-on-one time where they get to communicate with them and talk to them, and just some of the best moments that they get are drawn out of competition and what revolves around that, whether it be practices or driving or flying to and from places, and it's just it's a very fulfilling aspect that I got a little I got a little teary eye reading it because I one wasn't there and missed out, felt like I missed out.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>But he was just crying because he was sad he wasn't there.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, yeah, big piece of FOMO, but also yeah, just just looking looking at it and being like, this is really, really cool.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So thank you for sharing it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>My uh my entire life has been of the perspective of a coach's kid.

00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:20.480
<v Arielle Houlihan>And uh we've as running the club as well, uh, and my whole club experience going through, I was a coach's kid, and then when we took over, we had a significant amount of coaches that raised their kids and coached their kids through our club.

00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:35.680
<v Arielle Houlihan>And I've always found a lot of pride in uh being a place that coaches' kids can be and thrive, um, because I never wanted there to be an anti-coach's kid feel to our club.

00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:44.319
<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, but I've we've also I've spent my whole life watching different ways that people do this as a coach's, as a coach's kid and as a coach.

00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:56.160
<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, and it's for us getting about as close to having young players that are our own as possible, with our kids being pretty close in age to your children.

00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:05.759
<v Arielle Houlihan>It's uh very nice to see you doing it uh close to at the same time as us trying to do this as well, because uh you're doing a great job of it.

00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:07.119
<v Daniel Rasay>So trying.

00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:13.680
<v Daniel Rasay>I definitely have my my demons that don't we all at least you're able to say that.

00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:24.559
<v Arielle Houlihan>That's the that's the other is like there are a lot of people out there that are unable to say that and think that they know exactly what they're doing with this, which to we all know that nobody does.

00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:25.119
<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah.

00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:29.200
<v Arielle Houlihan>I mean I've I've had Jackson's eating drinking out of the toilet.

00:25:29.440 --> 00:26:03.440
<v Daniel Rasay>Speaking of parenting, I mean there's definitely the bad examples that you see all the time, but I think there's tons of great examples like in Bay to Bay, like great parents, but also having coached the Shojis and Dave being around and Don Shaw being around, like they were also great examples of how you can I've also seen great examples of uh incredible players that I believe the parents didn't do the right thing with them, even though they turned out to be incredible players.

00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:22.559
<v Arielle Houlihan>And there's it's a list of importance of like what is the most important thing here is raising these kids to be an athlete the most important thing, or is it raising them to be a adult, a fully functioning adult who's kind, who can uh navigate their way in their job that they go into?

00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:24.720
<v Arielle Houlihan>Like it there's a give and take with it.

00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:26.319
<v Arielle Houlihan>So what are you giggling about?

00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:27.599
<v Arielle Houlihan>Jackson has to go out.

00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:30.880
<v Arielle Houlihan>Jackson's like, okay, parents.

00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:35.039
<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah, but on the other side of that, like I think that's the great thing about sports as well.

00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:45.440
<v Daniel Rasay>It's like as kids start to maybe drift not drift away from their parents, but like their parents are less of an influence, their peers become that influence, and so sports provides that.

00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:54.799
<v Daniel Rasay>And that's the other thing that I love about Eli playing is that he has great teammates that he can have a good time with, and they're a good influence on him.

00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.400
<v Matt Houlihan>So I think that segues nicely into the final piece.

00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:01.119
<v Matt Houlihan>As you can tell, Daniel, very emotionally intelligent human being.

00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:06.400
<v Matt Houlihan>So our docket is very much revolving around some uh some good emotional cues here.

00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:13.519
<v Matt Houlihan>Uh just one lesson that you would you would teach or give to your younger volleyball self.

00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:14.720
<v Arielle Houlihan>Baby Ariel.

00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.960
<v Matt Houlihan>Baby Ariel, baby Chad, uh beardless Chad.

00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:20.799
<v Matt Houlihan>I I have this when I was.

00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:21.599
<v Matt Houlihan>No, you didn't.

00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:22.480
<v Matt Houlihan>Seventh grade?

00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:30.160
<v Matt Houlihan>I rem I remember I've got a photo of you in the garage right now watching me play volleyball because you were a dork back then, too.

00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:32.559
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, I got out of practice and I was like, Bell's playing St.

00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:32.960
<v Matt Houlihan>Francis.

00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:33.759
<v Matt Houlihan>Yes, going.

00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:34.240
<v Matt Houlihan>Yep.

00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:34.480
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:35.759
<v Matt Houlihan>And you sat front row.

00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:37.839
<v Matt Houlihan>And so I have a photo of your bald face.

00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.200
<v Arielle Houlihan>Does anybody have any interest in going to that Bell Save Rences game coming up here?

00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:42.000
<v Matt Houlihan>No, not really.

00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:42.880
<v Matt Houlihan>Is it coming up?

00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Matt Houlihan>When is it?

00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:44.000
<v Arielle Houlihan>I would love to go to that.

00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:46.160
<v Arielle Houlihan>I think it's uh in a week.

00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:48.880
<v Chad Gordon>If I don't have practice, great.

00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:50.559
<v Chad Gordon>Nerds.

00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:55.200
<v Arielle Houlihan>I think it's in uh on this, it's like the 19th, I think.

00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:58.799
<v Arielle Houlihan>I've been asked a few times if I'm going to make an appearance.

00:27:58.880 --> 00:27:59.839
<v Matt Houlihan>So of course.

00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:01.279
<v Arielle Houlihan>I don't I don't do that without friends.

00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:03.039
<v Matt Houlihan>Luke and Gabe have been group texting.

00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:03.839
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, no kidding.

00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:05.279
<v Matt Houlihan>Uh Chad, let's hear.

00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:09.119
<v Matt Houlihan>What's your uh what would you what would you give to your younger volleyball self?

00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:13.279
<v Arielle Houlihan>You have to talk to yourself in the mic like you are talking to.

00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:17.039
<v Matt Houlihan>Can I set a little context too, just so people know while Chad's thinking about this?

00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:20.640
<v Matt Houlihan>Chad was a twos player, ones player back and forth.

00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:30.480
<v Matt Houlihan>So kind of a cusp in between between he's not always this volleyball goliath that athletic specimen that you see before you in this beautiful.

00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:32.559
<v Chad Gordon>Well, Chad's the best volleyball player in the large room.

00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:33.279
<v Chad Gordon>That's true.

00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:33.680
<v Chad Gordon>I don't know.

00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:34.319
<v Chad Gordon>That's very true.

00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Matt Houlihan>Chad is for sure the best volleyball player players.

00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:36.640
<v Arielle Houlihan>We know that.

00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Matt Houlihan>Currently.

00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Arielle Houlihan>What age are we talking?

00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.559
<v Matt Houlihan>Uh whatever you whatever you'd like.

00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:43.279
<v Chad Gordon>Chad?

00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:44.640
<v Chad Gordon>Man, I don't I don't know.

00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:49.200
<v Chad Gordon>I mean, I I was just that kid who was like the first one in, last one out.

00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Chad Gordon>Never the best player by any means, but probably like loved it the most.

00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Chad Gordon>So I don't I don't know.

00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:58.480
<v Chad Gordon>I mean, I would just stick with that advice of just like I I showed up and I put so many hours in.

00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:05.519
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, maybe I could have like set more balls instead of hitting for Harker or something, I would be a better setter and there's a different trajectory in my career.

00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Chad Gordon>Um but I don't know.

00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:09.759
<v Chad Gordon>I'm really I'm really happy with how it won, and I just I loved it, so I showed up.

00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:10.960
<v Chad Gordon>It was pretty easy.

00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:11.839
<v Chad Gordon>Good.

00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Arielle Houlihan>What was my answer again?

00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:16.240
<v Arielle Houlihan>Just getting, I didn't.

00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:26.960
<v Arielle Houlihan>I think that the advice that I would give to my younger self is that volleyball isn't everything.

00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:28.880
<v Arielle Houlihan>It's not the whole world.

00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Arielle Houlihan>And even though I have turned my life into it being a lot of my world, we're on a podcast together at your house.

00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:37.759
<v Arielle Houlihan>Like, what?

00:29:38.799 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Arielle Houlihan>Uh even though I have turned a lot of things into volleyball for my life, uh, I think my perspective of the time that I spent that I have spent not in volleyball has influenced my life in volleyball so heavily that uh my perspective on that is uh Matthew.

00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:08.000
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, but yeah.

00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:13.279
<v Arielle Houlihan>That's my that volleyball isn't life or death.

00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:15.680
<v Arielle Houlihan>Because there was some times where I didn't think it was.

00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Daniel Rasay>Sure.

00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:18.880
<v Daniel Rasay>It was a big part of your identity, especially when I was playing.

00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Arielle Houlihan>It was it was uh a grind and I was I really really did think that like the that the world was gonna end if things happened the way or not that I wanted them to.

00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:41.680
<v Arielle Houlihan>So I think that uh I'm glad that I have that perspective that it's not and I would give that advice.

00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.359
<v Matt Houlihan>I'm gonna let you go last and I'm gonna go next.

00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:52.000
<v Matt Houlihan>Um for me great question that Daniel posed, got me got me reflecting a little bit.

00:30:52.160 --> 00:31:06.559
<v Matt Houlihan>My advice to myself would be to enjoy the people that you are around, whether it be your teammates or my parents who took me to so many different events.

00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:18.799
<v Matt Houlihan>Um for context, I had two players on my club team that we played together for four years, won a bronze the club's first ever open bronze medal together, just had amazing times.

00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:21.759
<v Matt Houlihan>Uh, had two two of my friends who passed away.

00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.480
<v Matt Houlihan>One was uh an overdose and one was a a suicide.

00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:40.960
<v Matt Houlihan>And those friends, you know, lose a little bit of touch along the way as we go off into college, and just knowing that life is fragile is something I probably would have given my younger self a lot more of.

00:31:41.119 --> 00:32:14.720
<v Matt Houlihan>Um, it would have been pretty good perspective in terms of how I treat friends and relationships and um as it goes for my parents as well, just understanding how much they really did sacrifice for me, and how much you know, seeing it from this perspective of being a parent now, but also being a club director and seeing what really goes on for parents to coordinate three kids' schedules, pay for things, get us to to and from places, and how there were many moments where you know I I I felt like I was grateful, but did not show it when I look back.

00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Matt Houlihan>I'm like, oh, I really could have showed so much more gratitude for what my parents did for me there.

00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Matt Houlihan>Um and so yeah, just showing showing the people around you the love and appreciation that you've you've got for everything that you do with them, that they do for you, and trying to soak that in a little bit, a little bit more would be my uh my advice.

00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:40.640
<v Matt Houlihan>Not to not to go uh too uh too emo on uh on all you guys over here.

00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:42.319
<v Arielle Houlihan>This is the emotional pod.

00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:44.079
<v Arielle Houlihan>It is the emotional pod.

00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.720
<v Matt Houlihan>Daniel, this is why we brought you on.

00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:49.920
<v Matt Houlihan>This and this and conspiracy, sorry.

00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Daniel Rasay>All right.

00:32:52.240 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Daniel Rasay>I mean, I'm pretty similar to Chad, like I was the same kind of guy, like first in, last out, loved it more than anybody else, and I think I got the most out of my volleyball career, but mine comes from a lot of thought and having coached at Stanford for a long time.

00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:21.519
<v Daniel Rasay>My advice to myself would to be a better student so that you have more options if college volleyball is a part of your goal.

00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:39.039
<v Daniel Rasay>Um, I'm I mean Hawaii is a pretty stellar academic school, as we all know, but um but you know, the possibility of going to Stanford and looking back, and if that was a thing, I would have been very grateful for that.

00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:50.799
<v Daniel Rasay>But I think that was crushed this weekend because even if I did better in school, I saw Kevin Hansen, who is the same age as me and won a gold medal, right?

00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:52.640
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, he's pretty he's pretty decent.

00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:58.319
<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah, I think they wouldn't have recruited me if they had him.

00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:06.880
<v Daniel Rasay>And he's a big dude and was a really good setter, and so it wouldn't matter if I did well in school or not.

00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:08.400
<v Matt Houlihan>So try less in school.

00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.159
<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah, so yeah, less time in school.

00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:11.840
<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah, more time in volleyball.

00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:14.320
<v Matt Houlihan>More time in volleyball, less in school.

00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Daniel Rasay>No, but I I think that's the advice that I give a lot of the kids that I work with is open up as many doors as possible with not just volleyball, but with your academics as well.

00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:29.039
<v Matt Houlihan>Love it.

00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:34.079
<v Matt Houlihan>What a well-rounded podcast that we just put together that Daniel put together and we talked about.

00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:35.360
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, well done, everybody.

00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:36.400
<v Matt Houlihan>We've got a big one this week.

00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:37.440
<v Matt Houlihan>Chad leaves this week.

00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.360
<v Matt Houlihan>Uh oh, Chad's wedding what date.

00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:43.360
<v Matt Houlihan>But we need the wedding update first before we talk about volleyball day.

00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:45.920
<v Arielle Houlihan>But the clock is on.

00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:46.559
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yo.

00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:49.199
<v Chad Gordon>We haven't done anything really since last week.

00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:55.119
<v Chad Gordon>We had a meeting with the planner, and we just we'd like kind of narrowed down some of the venues that we're gonna go tour while we're in New York.

00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:55.679
<v Chad Gordon>Cool.

00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:07.360
<v Chad Gordon>But other than that, it's it's on uh it's on Jesse to kind of put together like some you know, some bridal stuff for for Lacey and whatever, and it's like, okay, here's an itinerary where Chad you don't have anything planned.

00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:09.840
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, oh so you get to go hang out in New York.

00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:12.320
<v Chad Gordon>Well, I mean, I'll be on calls with Poland, but yeah.

00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:12.639
<v Chad Gordon>Sure.

00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:14.079
<v Chad Gordon>So I wish I wish there was more.

00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:16.239
<v Chad Gordon>There's just not a lot this uh this week, but next week.

00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:16.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Next week?

00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:20.559
<v Chad Gordon>The next pod we'll have we'll have more we'll have juicier details, yeah.

00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:21.760
<v Chad Gordon>Lots of updates.

00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:22.880
<v Chad Gordon>Lots of updates.

00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.119
<v Arielle Houlihan>Lovely wow, lovely updates.

00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:26.079
<v Arielle Houlihan>Can't wait for that.

00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:28.079
<v Arielle Houlihan>Well, my brother's moving to New York.

00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:29.599
<v Arielle Houlihan>So I don't know.

00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Matt Houlihan>We'll hang out.

00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:30.639
<v Matt Houlihan>That's all.

00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:31.760
<v Matt Houlihan>Which one fact?

00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:32.239
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:33.039
<v Matt Houlihan>One of them.

00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Matt Houlihan>One of them.

00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:36.880
<v Matt Houlihan>We've got uh volleyball day in the bay this weekend.

00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:38.719
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, Friday versus BYU.

00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Matt Houlihan>Saturday is the day.

00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.880
<v Matt Houlihan>That is the day we are aiming to break the attendance record.

00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.360
<v Matt Houlihan>2175 is the number we got to beat.

00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Matt Houlihan>I'm expecting them, I'm expecting the Mormons to bring 800.

00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:50.559
<v Chad Gordon>I think it's to be larger than life because I want it that way.

00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:51.440
<v Matt Houlihan>Yes.

00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:54.000
<v Matt Houlihan>We were winded down.

00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:56.800
<v Matt Houlihan>It's almost like you had these planned.

00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:58.159
<v Matt Houlihan>Bye bye bye.

00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:05.280
<v SPEAKER_00>Um era, same era.

00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Matt Houlihan>So come on down if you are in the Bay Area.

00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:09.440
<v Matt Houlihan>Come join us on Saturday.

00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:10.400
<v Matt Houlihan>We've got giveaways.

00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:11.440
<v Matt Houlihan>Daniel's cooking.

00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:12.239
<v Matt Houlihan>There's a live band.

00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:13.280
<v Arielle Houlihan>I got hair ties, I think.

00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:14.239
<v Matt Houlihan>3 p.m.

00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Matt Houlihan>the uh the great time.

00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.559
<v Matt Houlihan>The uh the kickoff barbecue begins.

00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:20.960
<v Matt Houlihan>Beach volleyball first serves at 4 p.m.

00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:21.920
<v Matt Houlihan>at the beach courts.

00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:23.280
<v Matt Houlihan>They've got a taco truck.

00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:26.800
<v Matt Houlihan>We've got taco Daniel, aka hot dog Daniel.

00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Matt Houlihan>And hot dogs are like tacos.

00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:30.239
<v Matt Houlihan>Sure.

00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Matt Houlihan>Hot dog.

00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Arielle Houlihan>We got Abe Wagner on the band.

00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:35.519
<v Matt Houlihan>We'll debate that in more on Saturday.

00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:38.559
<v Matt Houlihan>So we will uh we'll be back.

00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:41.920
<v Arielle Houlihan>Hopefully after a win on Friday night.

00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:42.400
<v Matt Houlihan>Yes.

00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Arielle Houlihan>Into a win on Saturday.

00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Matt Houlihan>Hopefully a 2 0 weekend, knock on wood.

00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:47.519
<v Matt Houlihan>The boys are buzzing.

00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:48.719
<v Matt Houlihan>We'll see how we perform.

00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:49.599
<v Matt Houlihan>Six and no.

00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:52.159
<v Matt Houlihan>Just a couple gladiators in the arena going to battle.

00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:53.199
<v Matt Houlihan>We're ready.