S4E6: Chair Etiquette, NCAA Rule Changes, Setter Dunks

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, no, we didn't even we didn't even need to ride on the coattails of Ariel's Instagram.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We did it on our own.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The coach's group chat's group chat has been.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, it's going on its own now.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's going on its own.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's like the little engine that could.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That's you know, you just needed to tap into the right zeitgeist, which is Puerto Rico.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So now this is a Puerto Rican podcast.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Hola.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's a good open.

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<v Matt Houlihan>No, English subtitles.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Ariel's got a lot of tear with her social media right now on the rules of chairs.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Right?

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<v Matt Houlihan>We're talking about chair etiquette.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Well, we had our head of security came into our first our tied on meeting.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The beginning of the event was like the chair situation has gotten so out of control.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The last event I was at, we like the amount of altercations that happened because of the chairs.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I was like, oh, that's so interesting.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Should I do a video?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And he was like, yes.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And I was like, okay.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So then we filmed one.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We were gonna post it during Capitol Hill.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We filmed for 35 minutes talking about chairs, and I was like, I can't get through this right now.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So now we have a multiple part series that's coming out about chair etiquette.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And honestly, based off the comments, I'm not looking forward to the rest of the post because I'm like, oh, we actually make an actual joke out of this, and all these parents are literally livid.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Can we put our can I put my official stance on on chair etiquette out there?

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<v Matt Houlihan>There was someone in your comments who had a very straightforward response.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I was like, perfect.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's like it's if it's your kids' game that's what they're watching, you get a chair.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You can all be polite, we can treat each other with respect.

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<v Matt Houlihan>If you have an elderly person on any team, they get a ch they get a seat.

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<v Matt Houlihan>If you have a child, a small child, they get a seat.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But if your team is not playing and they're you just gonna vacate the seats, if there's no one in a seat after the game has started, you can come sit, come see.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Is there make sure they're not saving any seats?

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<v Matt Houlihan>And then you can take a seat.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>No problem.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Great.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Common sense, easy.

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<v Matt Houlihan>No problem.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We don't need we don't need fisticuffs over over chairs that doesn't.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>But let me be very clear.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>In those comments, the word my chair or our chairs is not valid.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It is not your chair.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Nobody deserves a chair, nobody gets one.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>No, just go in.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Chairs are for winners.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, like what are you talking about?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>My chair.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>My chair is a crazy statement.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's not your chair.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>You should go, assuming like I'm going to stand, and if the chair is open for you, great, amazing.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Take care.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think people think of the chairs like they think of national parks.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's my national park.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I pay for this chair.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I support this chair.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, your taxes are in the case.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I paid my tax my taxes entry fee for this.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, that that's crazy.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I've got some parents going bananas in that comment section, be like, I pay for my kid to get here, and so I'm gonna take a seat and watch my sweet baby angel daughter play.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm like, Sally, bro, chill.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Like you do not deserve a chair.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>You probably need to go stand.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Pace.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Probably pace.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They probably need to go pace in the corner.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But on that same vein, we pose the question to the coaches' group chat of if there's something that you wish you could get rid of at volleyball tournaments.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Obviously, fights over chairs is an easy answer.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But as we go down the list, does anyone have any other any other pepps or things that you'd love to see get removed?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Daniel, you got a you got a first thought for us?

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<v Daniel Rasay>It's not the chairs that are that's the problem.

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<v Daniel Rasay>It's the parents that are the problem.

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<v Daniel Rasay>So I'd get rid of parents.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Parents first.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We get rid of parents or we get rid of chairs.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I say we get rid of parents.

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<v Chad Gordon>Do you keep the chairs without parents?

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<v Chad Gordon>Does that open up some interesting possibilities now?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, attention.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I can sleep.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Take a nap on all the chairs.

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<v Chad Gordon>Okay, get rid of the chairs, bring in the sofas.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Just beds.

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<v Chad Gordon>Perfect.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Doc, your turn.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Go.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Beds all around the courts.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Remove chairs.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Remove parents.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Add beds.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You're right.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's it's more of a uh it's like this is probably not a great reference, but guns don't kill people, I do.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You know that that t-shirt from Happy Gomorrah.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Everyone is allowed to clip Matt saying not.

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<v Chad Gordon>Give us the next sentence of what you mean.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like, you know, the chair's not the pro the chair's not the problem.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The person.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm gonna think that we're not gonna take that political stance as like a collective group of people on the coaches gear chat.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, if you like bludgeon somebody with the chair that you've picked up.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>You thought that our social media was hitting now.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Wait until you see this one.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Oh, just wait.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Just wait.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Alright, well, I have mine that I'd like to remove.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You guys ready?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Remove the referees.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Get rid of them.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Great.

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<v Matt Houlihan>All together.

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<v Chad Gordon>Call your own.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Not because I don't love I I love me, I love me some referees.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Great people that are here's what I'm saying.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I'm not saying get rid of R1s.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We need the R1s.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I'm saying remove the work team.

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<v Chad Gordon>Let the kids for sure.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Let the kids rest.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You know how we're gonna do it?

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<v Matt Houlihan>We're gonna solve it with AI.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Great.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Chad, I need you to get on this.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We're gonna use, we're gonna use the camera on the court to be able to pick up in and out.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Libera tracker.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The R1 is gonna use it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Is gonna use a simple iPad app.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We can make it extra large for the refs that need to like see closer.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You know, like my dad's my dad's iPhone's got like plus seven on the on the font.

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<v Matt Houlihan>For sure.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We'll increase it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You can do all that through an app.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We don't need six kids to all trade off turns, shuffling paper, picking their noses, and not actually doing anything.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Let them go, let them go, let them go rest off of the court and free up the chairs.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We'll free up more chairs.

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<v Matt Houlihan>See?

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<v Chad Gordon>So that's what I'd like to hear about.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So now we have four extra chairs.

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<v Chad Gordon>Oh, minimum.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah.

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<v Chad Gordon>You don't have you.

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<v Chad Gordon>I mean, usually you're gonna have the extra kids waiting, you know, playing games on their phones, just waiting.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Where are the parents gonna yell at is the question.

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<v Daniel Rasay>R1.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Okay.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That's why we need to be a big one.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, but they're not gonna be called the R1 anymore.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We'll call them the arbiter.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Ooh, with something official.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Or the court babysitter.

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<v Chad Gordon>The court nanny.

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<v Chad Gordon>Leave your kids with the court nanny.

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<v Chad Gordon>Hey, the court babysitter told me I needed to come to see you.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Take it to the head court babysitter.

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<v Chad Gordon>Who has jurisdiction on this court?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The top court babysitter, obviously.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I have a protest.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Bring me the head court babysitter.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We're on to something.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We're rebranding everything.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We're gonna change, we're gonna change the game.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Alright, we've got core babysitters.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Ariel, what do you want to get rid of?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I think I'm good now.

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<v Chad Gordon>Chad, what do you got?

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<v Chad Gordon>Get rid of the smoothies and the Aussai.

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<v Chad Gordon>I don't want I don't want it.

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<v Chad Gordon>I don't need that.

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<v Chad Gordon>I don't need that nonsense.

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<v Chad Gordon>Are you that's a blasphemous statement?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Grinch.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The volleyball Grinch was spoken.

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<v Chad Gordon>I'm not playing.

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<v Matt Houlihan>What do you want them to have?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Chicken tenders?

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<v Chad Gordon>Oh well, obviously.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We'll keep chicken tenders.

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<v Chad Gordon>How are you gonna rate the tournament otherwise?

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<v Chad Gordon>Like there's an objective like way to do it in attendees.

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<v Chad Gordon>The chicken tender.

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<v Chad Gordon>I don't I don't need these lines.

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<v Chad Gordon>And why is why is my smoothie$23?

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<v Chad Gordon>Like it's just sugar and fake mango and ice.

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<v Chad Gordon>You'd rather it just be removed entirely.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Or kill dip and dots.

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<v Chad Gordon>Why would you slander dip and dots?

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So keep the chicken, keep the dip and dots, but get rid of the SIE.

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<v Chad Gordon>All my asses and coaches coach best eating dip and dots.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That's the only semi-healthy, healthy branded thing in there.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Dip and dots.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>No, Asi.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Oh yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I was like, what?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>But the SIE really isn't healthy.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It really depends.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like Norcal cup asae bowl, most atrocious acid.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Oh my gosh, that was so bad.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And then you got like you got the sambasan asaí balls.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Those look pretty good.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Right?

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<v Chad Gordon>But it just kind of depends on which I get if you're a player and you're like scooping it out of ice cream.

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<v Chad Gordon>You're going back to back matches, you're tired.

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<v Chad Gordon>Like my dad used to like throw starburst at me like before I would serve.

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<v Chad Gordon>Like, I get it.

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<v Chad Gordon>Like you need a little sugar.

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<v Chad Gordon>I don't I don't need the lines.

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<v Chad Gordon>Be off in the corner.

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<v Chad Gordon>Why you why are you in the middle of the thing?

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<v Chad Gordon>I think I think you're just rage baiting right now.

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<v Chad Gordon>But I respect it.

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<v Chad Gordon>No, I don't need the smoothies.

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<v Chad Gordon>I don't need the odds I get out of the way.

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<v Chad Gordon>Put them in the corner at the middle.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>At a court.

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<v Matt Houlihan>There you go.

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<v Chad Gordon>Well, you're welcome.

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<v Matt Houlihan>With all of these tournament changes that we've now proposed, let's let's head into the next portion of our docket, which is rule changes from the NCAA Women's Volleyball Rules Committee.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We've had a fair amount.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think we we had a some pretty good conversation going on in the group chat about liking what they have put into play.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>After it's settling, do you like what they've done?

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, I do.

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<v Chad Gordon>Um we've talked about it before on this very illustrious podcast, and maybe this is the reason for said changes.

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<v Chad Gordon>It is.

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<v Chad Gordon>Uh, but pursuit in the women's game.

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<v Chad Gordon>You know, one, yeah, obviously we had Have you read that rule though?

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<v Chad Gordon>Uh no, not yet, but you're ruining my joke.

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<v Chad Gordon>Uh now that we've removed all the chairs, it's gonna be a lot safer for the women to pursue at the collegiate level.

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<v Chad Gordon>Ah.

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<v Chad Gordon>See?

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<v Chad Gordon>Sofas.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Sofas.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Not a problem.

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<v Chad Gordon>Honestly, more sofas to the men's game now.

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<v Chad Gordon>Okay, everybody wins.

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<v Chad Gordon>Uh yeah, the under rule, I don't care.

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<v Chad Gordon>Uh they got rid of the double.

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<v Chad Gordon>We love that.

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<v Chad Gordon>The challenge and the timeout stuff.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Let's take it, let's take it one at a time.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Let's talk with let's talk with the pursuit.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You know, on the pursuit side of the.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay, read that rule though.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That rule is a little weird.

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<v Matt Houlihan>There is.

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<v Matt Houlihan>There's some there's some nuance to it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think on the whole, we all agree women's volleyball should be able to pursue.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Right?

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<v Matt Houlihan>They still are not allowed to run under the net to pursue, like the men's game can.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And then there is also a Why, man?

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<v Chad Gordon>I don't make the sexist rules.

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<v Chad Gordon>What are you talking about?

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<v Chad Gordon>Explain yourself, man.

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<v Chad Gordon>I got rid of the chairs.

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<v Chad Gordon>I did my part.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>You're a van tell me clown.

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<v Chad Gordon>Explain this, man.

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<v Chad Gordon>Oh, we're off the rails.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Oh, that's good.

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<v Chad Gordon>Uh so they're the can't go under men.

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<v Chad Gordon>It can't go under the men's can.

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<v Chad Gordon>Got it.

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<v Chad Gordon>Why why can't you?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Is this like air feet, their small feet.

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<v Chad Gordon>Their hair, their hair is gonna get stuck in the net.

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<v Chad Gordon>Is this like an earrings thing, like on the net kind of thing?

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<v Chad Gordon>Or like what are they trying to say?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Well, they did say no jewelry from the chin down.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So chin piercings.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Their game.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Chins are in as long as it doesn't hang below the chin.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Your chin piercing's fine as long as it's a stud.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Or a bar.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like a straight bar.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think it'll booster flap.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>What is that?

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<v Matt Houlihan>A goblet?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>A gibblet?

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<v Matt Houlihan>A goblet?

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<v Matt Houlihan>None of the words are right.

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<v Matt Houlihan>What's going on right now?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Get us back on track, Daniel.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Get us back on track.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Okay.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The pursuit rule.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The other degree of the pursuit rule that is in effect is you have to have two meters of space between the polls.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Why the metric system?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Didn't they see Team USA beat Canada?

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<v Matt Houlihan>We obviously use feet here.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We've won this battle.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Oh my gosh.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But there's gonna be some gyms where you can't do it, like at BYU.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We were talking with uh we were talking with Costian.

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<v Matt Houlihan>There's BYU, the scores table is like four feet.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So that side so you can't pursue.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You cannot pursue on that side.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You can pursue on the other side because of the chairs, because of the tables.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>But the men can.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You can still go around.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It doesn't make any sense.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Correct.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So it's it's a uh it's a you gotta you gotta walk in and measure the court to determine whether or not you can actually run around it.

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<v Chad Gordon>Can we just push the announcers like bring your meter stick?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>An extra meter?

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<v Chad Gordon>No, you need like two-thirds of a meter, obviously.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Well, you have to bring your meter stick wherever you go now.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You don't.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yes.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You know how the refs have their little beads that they measure the uh the net width.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Now they need another one that measures meters side.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The court babysitters.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>There's only works vertically.

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<v Chad Gordon>The horizontal meters are different.

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<v Chad Gordon>The beads start to roll if you put them on the gravity.

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<v Chad Gordon>So yeah, yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The uh the other rule that became interesting, uh the challenge.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We do have the challenge, yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Would you like to talk about the challenge?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Is this the challenge with the timeout thing?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Or is the challenge with the timeout?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Once a timeout is taken, you may not challenge the point.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>To which automatically my mind was like, Great, game theory, challengeable point.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm taking a timeout, then the other coach can't.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So it's gonna be like in football.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The hurry up, a hurry-up play in football.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Correct.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Which I was like, great, amazing.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>But then Costi, like, kind of was like, I'm on the rules committee.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And that's I'm gonna send him this clip.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, please do.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'll say it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I said it to him just like this.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I was like, well, that's not what I was saying, and that I don't like it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I want to complain about it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Let me have my fun.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Uh apparently is like, no, there's like a just amount of time that you will get to challenge and then the timeout will be granted.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And I was like, boo.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, there's some there's some nuance.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's not, it doesn't allow you to freeze it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I want some game theory on that.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But that would have been that would have been fun, though.

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<v Matt Houlihan>If that would if that were the rule where hey That would be fun.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I I see a close in-out call.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They call it timeout, timeout!

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I want to see some coaches that know what they're doing here.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I want to see some like quick on it things.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yep.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, since that's not the case, we'll move to the next one.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, lame.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Commercial logos on courts.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We also have the jersey patches are about to be are gonna be approved for next year.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So we're gonna have we're gonna have some some new commercialization opportunities from the the women's volleyball space, men's volleyball space, I love it, basketball.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That's can we get a coach's group chat logo patch?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Maybe like the M AIA level.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The first thing that I said was for a commercial on the courts was I'm taking out an ad for Ariel Hulahan on a court somewhere.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I don't know.

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<v Matt Houlihan>What would be the best court to do it on?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I mean, obviously, like Nebraska, but like I let's be realistic, though.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I would like Nebraska Community College West.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Nebraska Kearny.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>No, like Santa Barbara.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, I'm gonna take out a coach's chip chat logo at the Matadome.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, of course you are.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>No, you're gonna take out a Matt who lah approves this message.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Actually, I'm not sure.

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<v Matt Houlihan>What am I who am I kidding?

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<v Chad Gordon>We're doing a Pacific.

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<v Chad Gordon>If we're doing anything, we're doing a Pacific.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Maybe.

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<v Chad Gordon>The C Sun of the North.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>The Puerto Rico of Pacific.

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<v Chad Gordon>No, C Sun's the Pacific of the South.

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<v Chad Gordon>C Sun's the Pacific of the South.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I love Season.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Season is the Pacific of the South.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I agree with that.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But Pacific is still tops.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They're peak.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They're the peak.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yes.

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<v Chad Gordon>There you go.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Anyone else have a would you what logo would you throw on uh on the UH floor?

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<v Matt Houlihan>It doesn't have to be a logo, actually.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Just what message?

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<v Matt Houlihan>If you could just take if you get a five by five message that you get to put on the floor, what would you throw out there?

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<v Daniel Rasay>Give us back our national championship.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Oh, nice.

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<v Daniel Rasay>That's funny.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I like that.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Okay.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Chad, do you have a message that you would put on?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Let's say you got you got UT Austin in their new brand new volleyball arena.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The only logo or only thing on the floor besides the Texas logo.

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<v Matt Houlihan>What message?

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<v Chad Gordon>No, we just gotta put down Volley Station next.

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<v Chad Gordon>Like we need you gotta promote on that.

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<v Chad Gordon>You're promoting, yeah.

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<v Chad Gordon>You're not taking a hey, I would want, you know, peace and joy for the world.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Oh, claim.

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<v Chad Gordon>Everybody love everybody.

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<v Chad Gordon>Consumerism.

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<v Chad Gordon>Fan chairs.

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<v Chad Gordon>Buy our thing.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Fan chairs.

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<v Chad Gordon>Couches instead of chairs.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Alright, that's my backup plan in case vole station is a good for this.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Ariel, you got you got a message or are you going uh what are you doing?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Just a bubble of my a fat head of my face, probably.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I like it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's very nice.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm gonna go haunt some people.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I got a couple skulls that I'm haunt?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I got some schools out there that I could haunt.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'd love some some people to look at my face every time their team has to play.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Just to add a little context, uh Ariel was once asked what her spirit animal is, and her response cockroach.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Was a cockroach.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>She just will never she'll never she'll never let you she'll never let you get away.

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<v Matt Houlihan>She'll she'll just keep coming back.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You can't kill her.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yep.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm gonna be there.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Honestly, I think about I think about that.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Just a cuddling cockroach.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Weekly occasion.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I was like, God, my wife thinks she's a cockroach.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, we're continuing along the lines of the rules.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh we had a another viral video of a beta bay player that came out.

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<v Matt Houlihan>One Norm Marks had a two-handed setter dump jam that the Instagram referees.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, it went.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I mean, it got a it was in the 100,000 view plus.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It went viral in my mind because I was thinking about it all the time because I was like, this kid's gonna get me kicked out of tournaments.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, and and as his coach, you've seen that be called a couple times different ways.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So let's let's let's debate for all.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well in in the actual social clip, we'll we'll throw the video up right now for you to see.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We've got it in like 17 different angles.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But what is the what's the call?

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<v Matt Houlihan>What's the call on these two hands?

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<v Matt Houlihan>You got these two-handed setter jams, which I honestly the first person I saw do it from the United States was James Shaw.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yep.

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<v Matt Houlihan>James Shaw for Stanford would turn with two hands and he would just he just dunked it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It was just a dunk.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But what do we think?

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<v Matt Houlihan>What's the uh what's the the ruling?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay, so the backstory on this one is that we've uh there was a point at which I had to tell Nolan, my setters, we're not gonna go over with two hands on two anymore because we are having to fight the wipe and jam game on our outside so much that having to fight it with you guys because this is getting this is getting so uh 50-50.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Uh I want us to be able to fight it with our outsides, not put more pressure on them.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And so we've had to like tone it back a little bit.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I also don't believe in that, and so it's I hate that that's where we are at with the game right now.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, I'm also trying to figure out a way to get my team to be successful, and so it's a very weird place to be in right now.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um Nolan specifically uh goes up.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Matty does it too, honestly.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Like both of my setters are doing this out of the over on two with two hands at a very high level.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And you see international players doing it, you see college players all the time doing this.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And uh I would say it's it's 50-50 whether we're gonna get called on it or not.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, and it to me, sometimes if we turn it all the way and it goes the other side of the court, we get called, but sometimes even when we go straight away, it's getting called, so it doesn't even matter at this point.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, Nolan goes up on this play, and Courtney had it on like a great shot of it in slow-mo, and also we have like a fast version of it as well.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And so we were at dinner at Capitol Hill, and we're watching this video, and uh I show it to them, I show it to a couple people at my table, and Chad goes, You have an entire table full of referees over there.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Core babysitters.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And I hopped up as quickly as possible, and I walk over to them, I go, I got something to show you guys.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So I showed this video to a table of seven or eight of our head referees at this tournament for the weekend.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And uh one of the referees goes, I'm I'll probably say it's clean, and he'll probably say not.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And I said, That's the problem here, but here, take a look.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I mean, it sparked the debate of all debates where they were they were very hit or miss on it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I said, if there was a blocker there, this wouldn't even be a question.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's not Nolan's fault that there isn't a blocker there.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And so if somebody else was contesting with it, it's so fast that there's no way that you can call a lift on this.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um that definitely stumped some people, and they had to but there just is no widespread uh I don't I people don't I think the referees really don't know what to think on this play right now.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's a it's a hard it's a judgment call.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It is a judgment call, but we need to get rid of that um with AI.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And so I just really think that we need to figure out how to tray like honestly, if if the international is doing this, if Moni is doing this, if uh Andrew Rowan is doing this, if our top kids in the country are doing this, and we are trying to raise our children in this country to grow up and be great, we cannot, as adults, be getting in the way of that and and consistently calling this play and not letting them experiment and try and figure out how to get this done.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm not saying that it can't, it can be a catch and throw, but it if it is fast, like we're showing that it is, there's no reason that this should be called as much as it is.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And it and we are legitimately 50-50 on it right now.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And I'm gonna get kicked out of tournaments for this one.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, it's it's tough in those moments.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You have to you have to depending on the referee, you're you're battling to try and maintain your style of play and what you're training.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And so that's where we're training them we're training them to emulate the best kids in the world and the best kids in college volleyball.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We're not training them to Not do that.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And so for us to for referees should be holding the standard of the game to that rate.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think that's the disconnect, too.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And and I I think that that gets called in a couple different ways, even at the NCAA level.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I'm watching the UCLA versus Long Beach State game, and that exact play happens.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Long Beach setter goes up and two-hand jams it, and Rowan is yelling, calling for a lift.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yep.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And I'm, you know, I'm not sure if he got called on it earlier or something along those lines, but right, there's there's definitely just a good degree of disconnecting.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Maybe it's just the fact that you know you know you can influence these judgment calls based upon your response.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That's called gaming.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Which is why I think so much of volleyball has you've seen these shifts of they're trying to remove judgment calls.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Right?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Remove the double.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They're taking steps towards can we just get rid of the judgment so that it makes it as clean and simple as possible for the viewer, for the referee, so that everyone's on that same equal playing field of understanding of what it is you can and can't do.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And that's where I'm like, I I see the game going towards them, going no open hand tips.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay, sure.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>You can say that, whatever, but the moment that that happens, the game, the game looks specifically different.

00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:14.480
<v Arielle Houlihan>And for sure.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>They didn't like what that game looked like either.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And so I I really do think that that is a dynamic, athletic, aggressive play that makes the game look incredible, and we are taking away the kids' opportunity right now to figure out how to do that in a very all over the place judgment.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And I think it's a trash way to raise our kids.

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<v unknown>No.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's an aggressive way to say it, but I stand by it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Standards, right?

00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:51.119
<v Matt Houlihan>It's like you're you're the plain standards and the refing standards have to be in line in order for you to get the best of the game.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yep.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Completely agree.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So will we be doing that or not?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I don't know.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That's a good question.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>But like I really do think that we need to let our kids We're starting a national campaign.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, I just I just think that that is going the younger and younger that can do that, the more likely it is that that stuff is going.

00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:20.960
<v Arielle Houlihan>And the more visible and viral that is, the more that referees I do think have to have a conversation of like we need to standardize this.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Daniel, when you were playing, were you a uh did you see any of that?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Or was it just you know the traditional one-handed dump, one-handed one-handed kind of jam to the left?

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<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah, it was definitely more just one-handed stuff, but I think athletes are just bigger and more physical these days, and we have to evolve with the athletes as well.

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<v Daniel Rasay>And it's it's just tough because when you have a ref that's uh calling these, it changes the game entirely.

00:24:50.799 --> 00:25:00.720
<v Daniel Rasay>Like you mentioned, James Shaw, he's set differently because he didn't have the option to be aggressive because they took that away from him, and that was one of his biggest strengths.

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<v Daniel Rasay>But yeah, I don't know, it's an interesting thing because like when there's an overpass, right?

00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:08.880
<v Daniel Rasay>And we're we're throwing the overpass down, probably never gets cold.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Right?

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<v Daniel Rasay>And it's a similar movement, yeah.

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<v Daniel Rasay>But that's a good point.

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<v Daniel Rasay>You know, we just look at it differently because it's the setter and second contact.

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<v Daniel Rasay>Second contact.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The the other part I was thinking of it too is how often are those balls, would you call a double on them?

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<v unknown>Right?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like that same that overpass ball.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like it is the is correct me if I'm wrong, is that first contact immune from the double call?

00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:32.960
<v Matt Houlihan>It is it's only second and third contact.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>No, not really.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's the third contact.

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<v Matt Houlihan>No, second and third contact.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, it's the over the net, right?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, but if I'm going if I'm going over on one as a attacker with two hands, that can't be called a double call.

00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:46.319
<v Matt Houlihan>It's a block, okay.

00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:46.960
<v Matt Houlihan>So yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Well, I mean, if it the What about like when Harper, when Harper Murray goes over on one in the Big Ten finals, she shoots it across the net.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That's enough time though.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But it wasn't and it was spinning.

00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:01.519
<v Matt Houlihan>But because it's the first contact, I guess it was safe.

00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:03.279
<v Matt Houlihan>I was talking with Theron about this in practice today.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That was a a play that got called out where we had a moment where it was like a scramble play, ball came over and they shot it across with their hands over on one and could have been called a double because it was the first contact that they let it they let it fly.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I think rarely happens, and uh the doubles being eliminated as much as it can.

00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:29.599
<v Arielle Houlihan>Hard to call a double now.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Alright, well this is our this is our uh our calling for let the let the setters dunk.

00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:36.960
<v Matt Houlihan>Yay.

00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:40.400
<v Arielle Houlihan>Let them let them go up there and reward reward good passing.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, meet the setters at the rim if you want to stop that ball.

00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yep.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Go up there and go up there and contest.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>If it is not contested, what are we doing getting in the way of it?

00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:52.240
<v Matt Houlihan>Then you're gonna get clipped.

00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:54.240
<v Matt Houlihan>That's what's gonna happen if you're not contesting it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, as referees, though, what are we doing get in the way of it if it's not contested?

00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:02.240
<v Arielle Houlihan>It's gotta be egregious if it is not contested.

00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:04.240
<v Matt Houlihan>It's gotta be Troy Field behind the head.

00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:06.160
<v Matt Houlihan>100% forward through.

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<v unknown>Yeah.

00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:08.240
<v Matt Houlihan>That's the line.

00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:08.799
<v Arielle Houlihan>That's the line.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The guy's on that ball for like a long time.

00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:14.480
<v Chad Gordon>If it crosses behind your back of your head through to the forward of your head.

00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:17.279
<v Chad Gordon>If you catch it, perform some like you know, dunk contest.

00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Chad Gordon>He didn't get racial casting spells.

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<v Daniel Rasay>He's two for two on not being called.

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<v Daniel Rasay>He didn't get called for that.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:24.880
<v Matt Houlihan>He like caught it thinking it would be a joust.

00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:28.240
<v Matt Houlihan>The blocker wasn't there, and then he threw it down, and then he just didn't get called.

00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Matt Houlihan>No call.

00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:29.039
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It was great.

00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:30.480
<v Chad Gordon>Beachy.

00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:38.319
<v Chad Gordon>But I mean, you get the like my my point before has been like you go watch uh SE, you watch like Dylan Klein like set a high ball.

00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:39.440
<v Chad Gordon>It's beachy, right?

00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:44.880
<v Chad Gordon>And you're like, oh, it's down, it's up, it's across his body, and he's on it for like, wow, that was like two and a half seconds.

00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:51.920
<v Chad Gordon>We're fine when it's on your side and you're just setting the ball, but I can't be on top of this thing and just push it straight down.

00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:52.960
<v Chad Gordon>It doesn't make any sense.

00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:54.559
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah.

00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Matt Houlihan>So there you go.

00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:58.319
<v Matt Houlihan>Well, I don't make the rules.

00:27:58.640 --> 00:27:59.279
<v Matt Houlihan>Neither do I.

00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Matt Houlihan>But apparently, apparently, apparently we can influence people because we made them change the pursuit rule.

00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.839
<v Chad Gordon>I can't wait to go to the next tournament and see sofas.

00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:10.319
<v Chad Gordon>Then I'll know that we've made it.

00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Matt Houlihan>Well, speaking of what Chad wants to see, we need to get our newest segment.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yes, my favorite segment of the day.

00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:21.359
<v Matt Houlihan>On the recording here, it's Chad's Wedding Woundup.

00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:22.720
<v Arielle Houlihan>Chad's Wedding Woundup.

00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Arielle Houlihan>So Chad is getting married.

00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:31.920
<v Matt Houlihan>We're setting a one-minute timer, and Chad has to give us his weekly recap of what has transpired in wedding planning this week.

00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Matt Houlihan>Can someone get the one-minute timer prepared for happy?

00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:36.160
<v Matt Houlihan>It won't help because it'll take six seconds.

00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.400
<v Arielle Houlihan>No, you have to talk about it for a minute.

00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:43.440
<v Matt Houlihan>Mind you, your fiance is here and she would like to know how Chad is getting married to Bobby.

00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Arielle Houlihan>Wait, where is a camera?

00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Arielle Houlihan>Where's a clo Okay?

00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:48.000
<v Arielle Houlihan>Here we go.

00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:48.640
<v Arielle Houlihan>Ready?

00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Chad Gordon>Turn it for the camera.

00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:51.839
<v Arielle Houlihan>One minute.

00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:53.359
<v Arielle Houlihan>Go.

00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Chad Gordon>Go.

00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:56.799
<v Chad Gordon>Uh we hired a planner.

00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:57.759
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yay!

00:28:58.240 --> 00:28:58.640
<v Chad Gordon>Congrats.

00:28:58.799 --> 00:28:59.680
<v Chad Gordon>In New York.

00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:00.559
<v Arielle Houlihan>Ooh.

00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Chad Gordon>That's it so far.

00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:03.200
<v Chad Gordon>What's her name?

00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Chad Gordon>Great question.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>She's not Jenny.

00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Arielle Houlihan>It's not Jenny.

00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:09.279
<v Arielle Houlihan>It's okay.

00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:11.039
<v Arielle Houlihan>Shaking head in disappointment.

00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:12.640
<v Arielle Houlihan>It's okay.

00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:14.640
<v Arielle Houlihan>Jenny, but her name's not Jenny.

00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, but it could be.

00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:16.240
<v Chad Gordon>I call her Big J.

00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:17.440
<v Arielle Houlihan>It's like privacy issues.

00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Arielle Houlihan>Big Jenny.

00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:20.799
<v Matt Houlihan>For HIPAA reasons, Chad's not using her real name.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, yeah.

00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Chad Gordon>Uh yeah, we have a planner.

00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:24.720
<v Chad Gordon>It's New York.

00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:25.279
<v Chad Gordon>This is all we have.

00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:26.880
<v Chad Gordon>We're going to New York in one week.

00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:28.000
<v Chad Gordon>To look at places.

00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:28.880
<v Chad Gordon>To look at places.

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<v Chad Gordon>To see Big J.

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<v Chad Gordon>Big J.

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<v Chad Gordon>Do a little shopping.

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<v Chad Gordon>See a little Harry Potter.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That's not the way.

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<v Chad Gordon>That's about it.

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<v Chad Gordon>I don't know.

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<v Chad Gordon>Do we have any venues lined up?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Why are you talking to her?

00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:40.799
<v Arielle Houlihan>She's in hell.

00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:41.440
<v Arielle Houlihan>She's in the room.

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<v Chad Gordon>This is why we were making her leave.

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<v Chad Gordon>I'm very nervous right now.

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<v Chad Gordon>I don't like any of this.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Big Jenny is the only thing we got out of this.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay, well, that was one minute.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>He's got a lot of work to do, but but I'm so excited to get married and get to New York.

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<v Chad Gordon>It's the best.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Okay.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Well, you maybe you make a notes thing in your phone and during the week when you're going to be able to do it.

00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:02.319
<v Matt Houlihan>I'll have my own docket, I think.

00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:05.039
<v Matt Houlihan>Have Claude Bot just keep track of what's been going on for you.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, I should probably get a well.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Thank you for Chad's wedding update.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That was the wedding.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Wedding wound up.

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<v SPEAKER_02>Brought to you by the way.

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<v SPEAKER_02>So wove we're we wove we that was woo-e wovy.

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<v SPEAKER_02>You guys should have uh the Princess Bride guy marry you.

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<v SPEAKER_02>Oh Mawage, Mawage, Mawage.

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<v Daniel Rasay>We be woven.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Or just seen Princess Bride.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Oh my god.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Add it to the list.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Not a prerequisite for getting married.

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<v Chad Gordon>No, no, but it's just like if you want to be not a good idea.

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<v Matt Houlihan>If you want to be a good human being, you should probably watch it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I mean, that's not true either, but it's pretty aggressive.

00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Arielle Houlihan>You're a good human being.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It felt aggressive.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I just want to learn more about Big Jet.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I can't wait to it's gonna be huge.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Great job, everyone.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Tigers.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Is that it?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Like, comment, subscribe.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That was that was it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That was all finito.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Bienvenidos.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Adios.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Adios Emilia.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Adiós.

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