The Vergecast

Today on the flagship podcast of region locked phones: 

The Verge’s Allison Johnson and Jon Porter report back on all the tech we saw at Mobile World Congress this past week. 

• MWC 2024: all the phones, wearables, and gadgets announced in Barcelona
• Peering through Lenovo’s transparent laptop into a sci-fi future 
• What if phones actually bent to our needs? 
• The Phone 2A makes a guest appearance at Nothing’s MWC event.
• The Humane AI Pin worked better than I expected — until it didn’t 
• Samsung has big ambitions for the Galaxy Ring 
• A short gif of Infinix’s color-changing charging E Ink phone concept.
• Now there’s a 28,000mAh battery with a phone in it 
• Xiaomi’s new Watch S3 has a bezel you can swap as easily as a strap.
• Honor’s Magic 6 Pro launches internationally with AI-powered eye tracking on the way
• HMD is making a Barbie flip phone alongside a smartphone for tinkerers

Later, David answers a question from the Vergecast Hotline about web crawlers and AI. 

• With the rise of AI, web crawlers are suddenly controversial

The Vergecast and Decoder are live at SXSW this weekend, March 8th and 9th. SXSW attendees can see both shows live on the official Vox Media Podcast Stage at the JW Marriott, presented by Atlassian. Learn more at voxmedia.com/live.

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The Verge’s Jennifer Pattison Tuohy has as smart a kitchen as any reasonable person possibly could; she has smart appliances, a smart sink, a smart fridge, and more voice assistants than anyone could ever talk to. And for a few days, she tried to let her kitchen do the work: telling her what to cook, getting everything set up just right, and even taking some of the cooking and cleaning load off her shoulders. Jen kept a diary during her adventures, and then joined The Vergecast to tell the tale. The fun, frustrating, exciting, harrowing tale.

Links:

• The Thermomix
• The Samsung Food app
• The Fresco app
• The GE Profile Smart Smoker
• The Smart Instapot Pro
• The Traeger Smart Wood Pellet Grill
• The Typhur Smart Air Fryer
• Tovala Smart Countertop Oven
• My favorite smart oven is toast

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The Verge's Nilay Patel and David Pierce talk through the weird and winding history of Apple's "secret" car project now that it's officially dead. And later, senior policy reporter Lauren Feiner makes her Vergecast debut to catch us up on the arguments made this week in the Supreme Court about online speech and the First Amendment.

Further reading:

• Apple’s electric car project is dead
• RIP to the Apple Car, we hardly knew ye
• Behind Apple’s Doomed Car Project: False Starts and Wrong Turns
• Supreme Court hears arguments on the future of online speech: all the news
• The Supreme Court is about to decide the future of online speech
• Why Uber and Etsy came up so much in the Supreme Court’s social media arguments
• Google CEO says Gemini AI diversity errors are 'completely unacceptable'
• TikTok is removing even more songs as music rights battle drags on
• The Humane AI Pin worked better than I expected — until it didn’t 
• Ford offers EV owners free Tesla Supercharger adapters until July
• Attention English majors: now you can add handwritten notes to Google Docs

The Vergecast and Decoder are live at SXSW this weekend, March 8th and 9th. SXSW attendees can see both shows live on the official Vox Media Podcast Stage at the JW Marriott, presented by Atlassian. Learn more at voxmedia.com/live.

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Today on the flagship podcast of the economic theory of Dave and Busters:

02:50 - The Verge’s Mia Sato shares her experience on a new shopping app called Flip, which is filled with only videos that earn affiliate revenue. 

• Where everyone’s an influencer and everything’s for sale

35:34 - The Verge’s Vjeran Pavic and Becca Farsace chat with David Piece about the new Fuji X100VI, and why this line of cameras was a sensation on social media. 

• Fujifilm announces the X100VI, its follow-up to a TikTok sensation
• The internet's NEW favorite camera? (Fuji X100VI)
• Fujifilm X100T review

57:44 - Verge producer Will Poor answers a follow-up question about the right to repair legislation in this week’s Vergecast Hotline.

The Vergecast and Decoder are live at SXSW this weekend, March 8th and 9th. SXSW attendees can see both shows live on the official Vox Media Podcast Stage at the JW Marriott, presented by Atlassian. Learn more at voxmedia.com/live.

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Over the next two Sundays on The Vergecast, The Verge’s Jennifer Pattison-Tuohy and David Pierce dig into the dream smart kitchen, the less-than-dreamy reality of the situation, and what it might take to make cooking, cleaning, meal-prepping, and eating more efficient and more fun.

On this episode, Jen takes us on a tour of her own smart(ish) kitchen, and explains why the kitchen often feels left behind in the overall smart home race. Then, Jen and David are joined by Ben Harris, the CEO of Fresco; and Nick Holzherr, the co-founder of Samsung Food. They tell us about the opportunities and challenges in reinventing the way we cook and eat, and explain why the AI revolution might usher in huge change.

Further reading:

• This smart oven solved my work-from-home lunchtime conundrum
• 2023 in the smart home: Matter’s broken promises
• How the smart home is finally getting out of your phone and into your home
• Appliance makers are teaming up to reduce your electricity usage — and save you cash
• This smart mixer did not make me a better baker
• Can Samsung Food usher in a new era for the smart kitchen?

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss ChatGPT and Gemini updates, Walmart acquiring Vizio, Apple's Sports app, and more.

Further reading:

• Google cut a deal with Reddit for AI training data
• Google apologizes for ‘missing the mark’ after Gemini generated racially diverse Nazis 
• Google’s open-source Gemma AI models draw from the research behind Gemini
• ChatGPT spat out gibberish for many users overnight before OpenAI fixed it
• One month with Microsoft’s AI vision of the future: Copilot Pro
• Gemini, Gemma, Goose. 
• OpenAI can’t register ‘GPT’ as a trademark — yet
• Artificial investment
• Walmart to acquire Vizio in $2.3 billion deal
• Echo Hub review: a simple, customizable smart home control panel
• Samsung details a host of audio upgrades coming to its phones, tablets, and TVs
• Apple says the iPhone 15’s battery got better — but won’t say how
• Rice is not included in Apple’s official guidance for a wet phone
• One of the last small-ish Android phones looks like it's going the way of the iPhone Mini 
• OnePlus is getting back into the smartwatch game
• The Garmin Forerunner 165 could be a great budget running watch 
• Sony’s PlayStation Portal hacked to run emulated PSP games
• Framework is selling a cheap modular laptop 
• Wyze says camera breach let 13,000 customers briefly see into other people’s homes
• Apple launches Apple Sports app with scores and betting odds 
• Apple is already defending iMessage against tomorrow’s quantum computing attacks 
• IBM quantum computing updates: System Two and Heron
• Microsoft and Intel strike a custom chip manufacturing deal
• Rivian says it is laying off 10 percent of its workforce as EV woes deepen
• Ford slashes Mustang Mach-E prices again as EV price war enters its second year

The Vergecast and Decoder are live at SXSW this weekend, March 8th and 9th. SXSW attendees can see both shows live on the official Vox Media Podcast Stage at the JW Marriott, presented by Atlassian. Learn more at voxmedia.com/live.

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Today on the flagship podcast of sneaky gaming strategies:

03:45 - Verge producer Will Poor reports on a right-to-repair bill in Oregon and what's next in the right-to-repair movement.

• The right-to-repair movement is just getting started
• Status of Right to Repair legislation state by state, via repair.org
• iFixit explains parts pairing
• Jessa Jones’ iPad Rehab
• Apple Is Lobbying Against Right to Repair Six Months After Supporting Right to Repair
• The current draft of Oregon’s Right to Repair bill

33:13 - Tom Warren breaks down the news from Microsoft’s gaming chief about Xbox games coming to PS5 and next-gen hardware.

• Microsoft’s gaming chief on Xbox games coming to PS5, next-gen hardware, and more

1:00:49 - David Pierce and Alex Cranz answer a question from The Vergecast Hotline about the crackdown on password sharing for streaming services.

• Netflix might ruin password sharing for everyone 
• Disney Plus is finally cracking down on password sharing in the US
• Hulu is cracking down on password sharing, just like Disney Plus and Netflix

The Vergecast and Decoder are live at SXSW this weekend, March 8th and 9th. SXSW attendees can see both shows live on the official Vox Media Podcast Stage at the JW Marriott, presented by Atlassian. Learn more at voxmedia.com/live.

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss Apple fans starting to return the Vision Pro, Xbox exclusive games, Super Bowl streaming troubles, and more.

Further reading:

• Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros
• Zuckerberg says Quest 3 is ‘the better product’ vs. Apple’s Vision Pro
• Meta’s big vision for face computers might be better than Apple’s
• Microsoft’s gaming chief on Xbox games coming to PS5, next-gen hardware, and more
• Microsoft prepares to take Xbox everywhere
• Gemini Advanced is most impressive when it’s working with Google
• Gemini 1.5: Google’s next-gen AI model is almost ready 
• Google’s Gemini assistant is fantastic and frustrating
• OpenAI introduces Sora, its text-to-video AI model
• ChatGPT’s memory gives OpenAI’s chatbot new information about you
• Can watermarks save us from deepfakes?
• Automating ableism 
• The text file that runs the internet 
• Apple won’t be forced to open up iMessage by EU
• FCC commissioner wants to investigate Apple over Beeper Mini shutdown 
• Apple appears to be breaking iPhone web apps in the EU
• Walmart might buy Vizio to win the fight over cheap TVs 
• AI at Work

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Today on the flagship podcast of video podcasts:

02:52 - The Verge's David Pierce chats with 1Password's Anna Pobletts about good password hygiene, passkeys, and the upsides of a third-party password manager.

• Passkeys: all the news and updates around passwordless sign-on support
• Biometrics? Bring it on: why Okta’s Jameeka Green Aaron wants passwords to go away
• How to use a passkey to sign in to your Google account
• 1Password’s passkeys explainer

31:56 - Victoria Song joins the show to discuss the state of wearables and why this may be the year for the smart ring.

• Fossil is quitting smartwatches
• This might be the year of the smart ring
• The best smartwatches for Android
• The best fitness trackers to buy right now

58:46 -Later, David answers a question from The Vergecast Hotline.

• Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s not
• Here’s how much the Vision Pro’s accessories cost

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The Verge's David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Adi Robertson discuss sports streaming, Apple Vision Pro updates, Bluesky removing its invite system, and more.

Further reading:

• ESPN, Fox, and Warner Bros. are putting together a juggernaut sports streaming app
• Disney Plus will start its password-sharing crackdown this summer
• Disney invests $1.5 billion in Epic to create ‘persistent universe’ tied to Fortnite
• Apple TV+ Became HBO Before HBO Could Become Netflix
• @lucas_shaw • All these articles should be required to note that nobody watches Apple TV+. • Threads
• A new Vision Pro teardown shows Apple’s incredible pixel density
• Apple’s first Vision Pro beta lets you bring virtual items closer 
• Apple’s Vision Pro launch day photo drop captures eager customers.
• The Vision Pro’s killer app: Cybertruck clout-chasing accessory
• YouTube says a Vision Pro app is ‘on the roadmap’ 
• Vision Pro’s Personas look a little crisper after latest beta update.
• It’s been 10 hours.
• Bluesky social network drops invite-only sign ups
• The fediverse, explained: Mastodon, Threads, and the open future of social networking
• X hits number one on the Apple App Store amid second celebrity image scandal
• The FCC bans robocalls with AI-generated voices
• Ford quietly created its own ‘skunkworks’ team to develop low-cost electric vehicles
• Apple is still working on foldable iPhones and iPads

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Today on the flagship podcast of anti-glare coatings:

03:58 - Josh Miller, CEO The Browser Company, joins the show to chat about the Arc Search mobile browser.

• Arc Search: a new iPhone app combining browser, search, and AI
• The Arc browser is the Chrome replacement I've been waiting for 

48:34 - Allison Johnson shares her review of the flagship Samsung Galaxy S24 phones.

• Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra review: all that and AI
• Samsung Galaxy S24 and S24 Plus review: smart choices

1:18:54- David Pierce answers a question from The Vergecast Hotline about the Apple Vision Pro.

• Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s not
• Meta’s Quest headsets add spatial video and pinch controls to compete with Vision Pr

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss the Apple Vision Pro review rating, changes to the TikTok app, streaming news, and more.

Further reading:

• Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s not
• The Vision Pro is a computer for the age of walled gardens
• Apple’s Vision Pro battery pack is hiding the final boss of Lightning cables
• Even without Netflix and YouTube, Apple’s Vision Pro has over 600 apps at launch
• TikTok loses Taylor Swift, Drake, and other major Universal Music artists
• UMG set to remove music from TikTok amid AI and payment concerns
• TikTok test automatically identifies products in videos and offers purchase links
• TikTok goes full YouTube
• Hulu is cracking down on password sharing, just like Disney Plus and Netflix
• The death of the Amazon deal could mean goodbye iRobot
• Lawmakers propose anti-nonconsensual AI porn bill after Taylor Swift controversy
• All the news from Congress’ Big Tech child safety hearing
• Snap is recalling and refunding every drone it ever sold
• TikTok’s CEO can’t catch a break from xenophobia in Congress
• Your home’s internet connection could soon be called .internal

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss Nilay's review of the Apple Vision Pro, and then answer questions from our listeners.

Further reading:

• Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s not
• Apple Vision Pro review (video)

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss Apple allowing alternative browser engines in the EU, Netflix getting WWE, Pixel 9 leaks, and more.

Further reading:

• Apple is bringing sideloading and alternate app stores to the iPhone
• Apple is allowing alternative browser engines in iOS 17.4 — but only in the EU
• Apple opens App Store to game streaming services
• Netflix is turning into cable TV 
• Netflix is going to take away its cheapest ad-free plan
• WWE Monday Night Raw is ditching cable for Netflix
• The Mac turns 40 — and keeps on moving
• Looking back on 40 years of Macintosh 
• The Pixel 9 leaks are already here
• Leaked pictures show a very blue Pixel 9. 
• The Vision Pro’s most important app is Safari, whether Apple likes it or not
• Vision Pro cover glass repairs will set you back $799 without AppleCare Plus
• Apple tells artists how much more money they can make with spatial audio
• Inside India’s race to cool 1.3 billion people in a warming world
• Nintendo goes after the Palworld Pokémon modder
• The Pokémon Company says it will ‘investigate’ Palworld
• This baby is covered in old flip phones and chips — and you cannot afford it

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Today on the flagship podcast of really old computers:

03:54 - Walt Mossberg, former Verge executive editor and longtime Wall Street Journal tech columnist, joins the show to discuss forty years of the Macintosh computer.

• Mossberg - The Verge
• The Mac turns 40 — and keeps on moving
• Steve Jobs Introduces the Macintosh
• Looking back on 40 years of Macintosh

40:28 - Ali Abdaal chats about his new book "Feel Good Productivity: How to Do More of What Matters To You" and why overthinking your productivity system might not be such a good idea.

•  Ali Abdaal - YouTube
• Feel Good Productivity

1:06:53 - David Pierce answers a question from the Vergecast Hotline about laptops.

• The best laptops you can get

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, Victoria Song, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss the Apple Vision Pro demo, the Samsung Galaxy S24 announcement, and more of this week's tech news.

Watch the video here

Further reading:

• Apple Vision Pro hands-on, again, for the first time
• Apple Vision Pro demos will include scanning your glasses to identify your prescription
• The Apple Vision Pro has a ‘guest’ mode for your friends to try it
• Apple Vision Pro will launch with 3D movies from Disney Plus
• Netflix’s app won’t work on the Vision Pro
• Magic Leap’s CEO isn’t worried about competing with the Apple Vision Pro.
• Apple Watch ban: everything you need to know
• Apple Watch sales ban restarts Thursday
• Apple Watches without banned blood oxygen features will go on sale Thursday morning
• This smartwatch has the tech that sparked the Apple Watch ban
• Samsung is making a Galaxy Ring 
• Samsung’s Galaxy S24 and AI event: all the news
• The Galaxy S24 Ultra is smarter, pricier, and just as big as ever 
• Samsung’s Galaxy S24 Ultra might fend off scratches just as well as drops
• Samsung’s S24 and S24 Plus put new AI smarts in a polished package
• Samsung’s Galaxy S24 is first to be able to upload HDR photos to Instagram
• Google’s Circle to Search makes visual searches super simple
• Samsung’s Galaxy AI is coming to 100 million Galaxy phones.
• Meta’s new goal is to build artificial general intelligence

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Today on the flagship podcast of endlessly looping sounds:

02:33 - David Pierce dives into one piece of music that has taken over "North Sea TikTok"

20:45 - Alex Cranz joins the show to preview new TV shows coming to streaming in 2024, and gives predictions about which streaming service will come out on top this year.

55:36 - This week's Vergecast Hotline question about E Ink at CES.

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz follow up on all the rest of the gadgets and tech seen at CES 2024.

Further reading:

• CES 2024: all the TVs, laptops, smart home gear, and more from the show floor
• The Rabbit R1 is an AI-powered gadget that can use your apps for you
• Rabbit sells out 10,000 units of its R1 pocket AI companion in one day
• Samsung’s Ballie robot is now a projector that follows you around  
• Wi-Fi 7 quietly took off while everyone was looking at AI
• Wi-Fi 7 certification is now underway for new routers and devices  
•  Belkin made an iPhone dock that can track you around the room 
•  Satechi’s new Qi2 charging stands are stylish and storable
• Have yourself some more Thunderbolt 5.
• Behold: the first Thunderbolt 5 port we’ve seen on an actual PC.
• I just watched the first interactive broadcast TV channel in the US
• Thread Group is finally fixing Thread border routers  
• The Aqara Hub M3 launches at CES 2024 
• Google and Samsung team up to simplify Android sharing
• Intel: ‘We are bringing the AI PC to the car’
• Hyundai says hydrogen will play a ‘prominent role’ in going carbon neutral  
• BMW turns inward for CES, announcing new gaming, streaming, AR, and AI features  
• VW’s software division and Bosch are testing robot parking and EV charging  
• Volkswagen says it’s putting ChatGPT in its cars for ‘enriching conversations’  
• Kia’s ‘Platform Beyond Vehicles’ is a family of modular electric minivans for businesses  
• Mercedes-Benz taps Will.i.am to create an ‘interactive musical experience’ for its cars
• Mercedes-Benz’s best-in-class voice assistant is getting an AI boost
• Honda debuts new global EV series, Honda Zero, coming in 2026
• Google Chrome is coming to your car
• Sony’s Afeela needs to be more than a feeling

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz are discuss all the things with screens announced at CES 2024.

Further reading:

• I’ve looked through LG’s new transparent OLED TV and seen something special
• Samsung’s got its own transparent display.
• Samsung’s new OLED TV could make annoying glare a thing of the past 
• Samsung finally puts the TV at the heart of its smart home
• The Frame has become such a hit that Samsung is making a speaker version  
• Intel’s new 14th Gen mobile processors are here for 2024’s gaming laptops  
• Lenovo’s latest 2-in-1 crams Windows and Android into one device 
• Razer gaming laptops at CES 2024: Blade spec bumps and display upgrades   
• Alienware’s M16 R2 trims the behind for less power and more portability   
• MSI Claw hands-on: the Steam Deck rival with Intel inside  
• MSI’s Claw is an Intel-powered Windows competitor to Valve’s Steam Deck
• What if your Samsung flip phone could flip further?
• Apple Vision Pro launches February 2nd  
• Apple Vision Pro prescription lenses will cost $149 extra
• Xreal’s new AR glasses are aimed at the Apple Vision Pro
• Asus targets Apple’s Vision Pro (with M2) with the AirVision M1

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz kick off the new year with a preview of what we're excited to see at CES 2024 next week, but not before a brief discussion on copyright, the open web, and the first movements of a battle between The New York Times and OpenAI.

Further reading:

• The New York Times sues OpenAI and Microsoft for copyright infringement
• Here’s how major media companies are handling OpenAI.
• Read the lawsuit!
• For the second year in a row, Sony won’t have new TVs at CES
• CES 2024: Dell’s XPS laptop lineup is about to look very different
• Samsung’s new AI-enabled smart fridge can design recipes for you
• Jony Ive imagined the Vision Pro giving you Zoom eyes and sunglasses
• Alamo Drafthouse blames ‘nationwide’ theater outage on Sony projector fail
• Amazon Prime Video will start showing ads on January 29th

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The Verge’s Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz start the final show of 2023 with some chat about the state of USB-C: the ups and downs of charging gadgets, the ubiquity of one cable, and what the future looks like for gadgets with ports.

The crew competes in a few rounds of USB-C Price is Right, a game we completely made up to show how confusing USB-C and its specs can be. Nilay, David, and Alex each play for a Vergecast listener to win an awesome Verge swag basket from our merch store. Check out the video version of the game below.

David and Nilay end the holiday show with Noah Dentzel, the CEO and co-founder of Nomad Goods, to talk about how USB-C on the iPhone has changed his business, the challenges of building cables, and what tech accessories he’s most excited about in 2024.

Have a happy, safe, and fast-charging holiday. We’ll see you in 2024!

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Richard Lawler discuss Apple pulling the Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 from its website, the potential Warner Bros. Discovery and Paramount merger, and what the biggest stories were on The Verge Dot Com.

Further reading:

• Apple to pull Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 this week due to ITC ban
• Apple loses attempt to halt Apple Watch sales ban
• Why the Apple Watch is being banned — and how Apple can avoid it
• Masimo CEO thinks Apple can’t code its way out of the Watch ban.
• Apple Watch ban: everything you need to know
• Beeper is giving up on its iMessage dream
• Apple reportedly plans Vision Pro launch by February
• Apple’s immersive next-gen CarPlay will start with Porsche and Aston Martin
• Bird’s goose is cooked.
• Warner Bros. Discovery and Paramount in discussions for a max merger
• Adobe explains why it abandoned the Figma deal
• Adobe won’t compromise on UK’s attempt to block Figma merger
• Peloton’s oldest bike tablet will be cut off from classes in a few months
• Peloton’s app now pairs with third-party treadmills for some subscribers
• Inside Elon Musk’s “extremely hardcore” Twitter
• Elon Musk predicts X will replace banks in 2024
• Mark Zuckerberg agrees to Elon Musk cage match challenge
• Apple Vision Pro is Apple’s new $3,499 AR headset
• I wore the Apple Vision Pro. It’s the best headset demo ever.
• Sam Bankman-Fried gambled on a trial and his parents lost
• Amazon has just opened up its Sidewalk network to give any gadget free low speed data
• Sony’s portable PlayStation Portal launches on November 15th for $199.99
• Sam Altman fired as CEO of OpenAI
• OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO
• FTC v. Microsoft: all the news from the big Xbox courtroom battle
• Buckle up because El Niño is almost here, and it’s going to get hot
• iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max in titanium: price, features, and release date 
• This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a lift-to-wake controller
• Samsung caught faking zoom photos of the Moon
• The Steam Deck wasn’t born ready, but it’s ready now
• Inside the AI Factory: the humans that make tech seem human
• SodaStream is a bad deal, and modding your own is better
• Did SEO experts ruin the internet or did Google?

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss Apple responding to Beeper's iMessage for Android and the various other text-based platform news from this week.

Sean Hollister joins the show to discuss his time covering the Epic v Google trial, and what we learned from it all.

Further reading:

• The year Twitter died: a special series from The Verge
• Beeper vs. iMessage is a fight about how tech works — and who's really in charge 
• Apple responds to Beeper’s iMessage for Android: ‘We took steps to protect our users’
• Beeper says Apple is blocking some iMessages, but there’s a fix
• Google Messages might let you edit texts after they’re sent 
• Threads is officially starting to test ActivityPub integration 
• Threads launches for nearly half a billion more users in Europe
• Adam Mosseri’s Threads account is rocketing up the Mastodon followed lists.
• An X outage broke all outgoing links, again
• Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app store fight 
• Epic CEO Tim Sweeney: the post-trial interview 
• 20 things we learned from the Epic v. Google trial
• The Apple TV app now looks more like an all-purpose streaming hub
• E3 is officially over forever 
• Opera’s gamer browser now has a ‘panic button’ for when you’re caught in the act

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Today on the flagship podcast of good tweets:

03:40 - The Verge’s William Poor goes on a vintage tech odyssey in the hopes of future-proofing his family’s heirloom Mac Classic.

28:35 - David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Nilay Patel discuss why they spent so much time on Twitter for so many years.

• The year Twitter died: a special series from The Verge
• How Twitter broke the news
• Extremely softcore: the old Twitter was an idealist’s workplace and a naive business
• The great tweet archive
• Twitter was a harassment machine  
• It’s time for the Excel World Championships!

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and Dan Seifert discuss Google Gemini's attempt to compete with ChatGPT, Beeper Mini bringing iMessage to Android, and shakeups in the podcast industry, and much more.

Further reading:

• “Welcome to hell, Elon” has now been cited in a Supreme Court brief.
• Google launches Gemini, the AI model it hopes will take down GPT-4 
• Google’s Gemini AI model now powers the Bard chatbot
• Google’s Gemini AI model is coming to the Pixel 8 Pro — and eventually to Android
• Apple joins AI fray with release of model framework
• Bing’s GPT-4-powered Deep Search takes its time with AI questions
• Getty lawsuit against Stability AI to go to trial in the UK
• Beeper Mini brings iMessage to Android
• EU officials think iMessage isn’t ‘popular enough’ with businesses to warrant regulation.
• Spotify cancels industry-favorite podcast Heavyweight 
• Spotify’s not going for Pulitzers anymore
• Spotify’s CFO and general counsel sold millions of dollars worth of stock the day after the layoff.
• Tidal is laying off more than 10 percent of its staff.
• Seems like Apple’s iTunes Movies and TV Shows apps for Apple TV really are going away.  
• Here’s how a bridal photo captured a single person in three poses at once
• Federal judge vows to investigate Google for intentionally destroying chats
• Microsoft is investigating a Windows issue that’s renaming printers to HP LaserJet 
• Motorola Razr 2023 review: not enough of a good thing
• Disney Plus and Hulu’s one-app experience is launching in beta
• The race to 5G is over — now it’s time to pay the bill

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The Verge's David Pierce, Victoria Song, Dan Seifert, and Jennifer Pattison Tuohy answer questions from the Vergecast Hotline about what to buy for your loved ones this holiday season.

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss the Tesla Cybertruck event, the latest with OpenAI leadership, and what Elon Musk and Bob Iger said at Dealbook Summit 2023.

• Getting close — but not too close — to the Tesla Cybertruck
• Tesla Cybertruck delivery event: Elon Musk hands over the first trucks to customers
• Elon Musk tells advertisers: ‘Go fuck yourself’
• Sam Altman is back, so what’s next for OpenAI and ChatGPT?
• Interview: Sam Altman on being fired and rehired by OpenAI 
• ChatGPT is winning the future — but what future is that? 
• Ikea debuts a trio of affordable smart home sensors
• DealBook Summit 2023: Elon Musk, Bob Iger, and more
• How to find your 2023 Spotify Wrapped

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Today on the flagship podcast of multi-drone camera setups:

03:19 - The Verge's David Pierce chats with Planet Earth III producer Alex Walters and director Theo Webb about the gear used to make the latest nature documentary series.

30:13 - Netflix's Pat Flemming joins the show to discuss how Netflix figures out what to show when you open the app, and how to keep you coming back.

1:20:29 -The Verge's publisher Helen Havlak and editor-in-chief Nilay Patel join the show to answer this week's hotline question.

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The Verge's Nilay Patel and Alex Heath join David Pierce after a long, winding weekend reporting on the dramatic shakeup at OpenAI, still in progress.

Further reading:

• Turmoil at OpenAI: after firing Sam Altman, what's next for the creators of ChatGPT?
• Sam Altman fired as CEO of OpenAI
• OpenAI’s new CEO is Twitch co-founder Emmett Shear
• OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO
• Emmett Shear named new CEO of OpenAI by board
• Hundreds of OpenAI employees threaten to resign and join Microsoft
• Microsoft hires former OpenAI CEO Sam Altman 
• How ChatGPT Fractured OpenAI - The Atlantic

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In episode three of our video game miniseries, The Verge's David Pierce and Polygon's Russ Frushtick and Chris Plante discuss the state of the industry's blockbuster games like Grand Theft Auto, Call of Duty, Overwatch, Fortnite, and others — and what they signal for the future of gaming.

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss Apple announcing it will support RCS next year, AI news that came out of Microsoft Ignite, YouTube's new policy on deepfakes, and much more.

Further reading:

• Apple says iPhones will support RCS in 2024
• Google turns to regulators to make Apple open up iMessage
• Meta will fight the EU over regulating Messenger
• Microsoft Ignite 2023: all the AI news from Microsoft’s IT pro event
• Microsoft rebrands Bing Chat to Copilot, to better compete with ChatGPT
• Windows is now an app for iPhones, iPads, Macs, and PCs 
• Microsoft Copilot Studio lets anyone build custom AI copilots
• Microsoft is finally making custom chips — and they’re all about AI 
• YouTube is going to start cracking down on AI clones of musicians
• Google is embedding inaudible watermarks right into its AI generated music
• Nothing is bringing iMessage to its Android phone 
• On 'Chinese knockoffs' and why Leica works with Xiaomi
• Taylor Swift fans used record amounts of data during the Eras Tour in North America 
• PlayStation Portal impressions: hands-on with Sony’s remote play handheld for PS5
• Opal's second camera is the Tadpole, a tiny webcam for laptops 
• The first OLED Roku TV is here after a long, long wait
• Sonos teases a major new product coming next year
• Sonos fixes its Dolby Atmos loud pop issue after years of complaints 
• Taylor Swift fans used record amounts of data during the Eras Tour in North America 

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Today on the flagship podcast of machine learning-based recommendation systems:

03:31 - The Verge’s David Pierce chats with Spotify’s co-president and chief product officer Gustav Söderström about recommendations, audiobooks, app design, what Spotify wants to be, and whether it’s possible to do it all well. 

• Spotify - The Verge

44:08 - Alex Cranz joins the show to discuss a bunch of recent streaming news, including the plan to combine Disney Plus and Hulu. 

• Streaming - The Verge

1:10:28 - Chris Welch joins the show to help answer this week’s Vergecast Hotline question about mp3 players. 

• The Mighty — an iPod shuffle for Spotify — finally arrives for $85
• bemighty.com

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In episode two of our gaming mini series, The Verge's David Pierce chats with Polygon's Russ Frushtick and Chris Plante about the obstacles around both preserving and emulating video games from discontinued hardware.

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Alex Heath discuss the debut of Humane's AI Pin, OpenAI's DevDay, GPT-4 updates, and more.

Further reading:

• Exclusive leak: all the details about Humane's AI Pin, which costs $699 and has OpenAI integration 
• Humane officially launches the AI Pin, its OpenAI-powered wearable 
• All the news from OpenAI’s DevDay conference
• OpenAI is letting anyone create their own version of ChatGPT
• OpenAI wants to be the App Store of AI 
• ChatGPT subscribers may get a ‘GPT builder’ option soon
• OpenAI turbocharges GPT-4 and makes it cheaper
• OpenAI’s GPT builder interface is dead simple to use.
• Valve reveals the Steam Deck OLED: $549 buys better screen, battery, and more
• Steam Deck OLED review: better, not faster
• This smart garage door controller is no longer very smart
• YouTube pages are getting a TikTok-like For You feed 

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Today on the flagship podcast of anti-steering provisions:

02:57 - The Verge's David Pierce and Makena Kelly discuss Epic v. Google, a trial about the future of app stores.

• The Epic v. Google trial may come down to simple v. complicated
• Epic v. Google: a battle over Fortnite fees goes to court

28:49 - Liz Lopatto joins the show to detail her experience covering the Sam Bankman-Fried trial from start to finish.

• FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried is guilty of fraud
• Sam Bankman-Fried gambled on a trial and his parents lost

58:27 - Richard Lawler helps answer this week's Vergecast Hotline question.

• Disney’s new vision for ESPN might include part ownership by the NBA, NFL
• Disney finally revealed how many billions ESPN pulls in.

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In the first episode of our series about the future of gaming, The Verge's David Pierce chats with Polygon's Chris Plante and Russ Frushtick about handheld game consoles. Is this portable, all-in-one form factor where all of gaming is headed? 

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss the takeaways from Apple's Mac event, the problem with SEO on the internet, streaming news, and much more.

Further reading:

• Apple ‘Scary Fast’ Mac launch event: the 4 biggest announcements
• Goodbye, Touch Bar, you held incredible promise
• Here’s what Apple means when it says its event was ‘shot on iPhone’
• Amanda Chicago Lewis’ excellent piece about the web SEO built
• Some thoughts about The Verge article on SEO
• Sundar Pichai argues in court that Google isn’t evil, it’s just a business
• Disney is about to own all of Hulu 
• Joe Rogan’s big Spotify decision
• HBO Bosses Used ‘Secret’ Fake Accounts to Troll TV Critics
• Max is taking 4K away from its legacy ad-free subscribers
• Netflix’s ad-supported plan will reward binge watchers with ad-free episodes
• Streaming is more expensive than ever — and it’s only going up from here
• YouTube is getting serious about blocking ad blockers
• There's a surprising new top-five player in the smartphone market
• Excuse me, it’s “really an aftermarket sound solution.”
• The best robot vacuum for me is the one I hacked 
• Chrome on iOS now lets you move the address bar to the bottom
• Google is officially trying to make .ing domains a th.ing
• The EV transition trips over its own cord 
• Closing time for Sam Bankman-Fried 
• What stalking a delivery robot taught us about AI’s limits

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Today on the flagship podcast of spec bumps: 

02:21 - The Verge’s David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Dan Seifert discuss the announcements from Apple’s “Scary Fast” Mac event. 

• Apple’s ‘Scary Fast’ Mac event: all the news from Apple’s online keynote

27:56 - Becca Farsace joins the show to share her thoughts on smartphone photography in 2023, and if the “Pro” branding can live up to its name. 

• iPhone 15 Pro Max camera: 1000 photos later, it’s still missing something 
• 1,000 photos with the Pixel 8 Pro: AI, UI, and Pro stuff 

52:06 - Adi Robertson answers a question from the Vergecast Hotline.

• Xreal’s Air 2 AR glasses ship in November in the US

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Today on the flagship podcast of network-attached storage:

This is the fourth in our four-part series all about connectivity. This week we're talking about software: how software connects us, how we connect to software, and how software connects to other software.

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss the next Apple event, a Twitter successor, and Windows Phone regrets.

Further reading:

• Apple plans ‘Scary Fast’ product event just before Halloween 
• Apple’s future AirPods roadmap just leaked, and big changes are coming 
• Apple TV Plus is getting a price hike — and other Apple subscriptions are, too
• The Apple Watch’s double tap points at a new way to use wearables 
• iOS 17.2 Beta Introduces Journal App - MacRumors
• Meta’s Threads app has almost 100 million users, says Mark Zuckerberg
• Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella admits giving up on Windows Phone and mobile was a mistake
• Here’s your first look at Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater gameplay
• Humane's AI Pin is Here’s your first look at Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater gameplay
• Google reportedly pays $18 billion a year to be Apple’s default search engine
• Is my co-worker AI? Bizarre product reviews leave Gannett staff wondering
• In the end, the FTX trial was about the friends screwed along the way
• The obsessive tormentor who made professors’ lives miserable
• The restaurant nearest Google

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The Verge's David Pierce, Nilay Patel, and Alex Cranz dedicate the show to talk about their feelings. The crew answer a bunch of questions from listeners about The Vergecast, The Verge website, and the future of it all.

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In episode three of our connectivity mini series, The Verge's David Pierce explores the idea of POSSE and PESOS, two syndication models for posting on the internet that don't rely on a single platform.

Buckle in, it gets nerdy.

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss a whole bunch of tech news from this week — a new Apple Pencil, the latest Cybertruck confusion, streaming updates, and more.

Further reading:

• Apple Pencil joins the iPad confusion zone
• Apple announces entry-level Apple Pencil with USB-C charging
• Elgato’s new $279.99 Prompter is an all-in-one teleprompter and extra monitor
• Analogue is making a 4K Nintendo 64
• OnePlus Open review: right size, wrong price
• Elon Musk says ‘we dug our own grave with Cybertruck,’ offers new delivery date
• Elon Musk answers Tesla pricing question with anti work-from-home rant
• https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/18/23923256/musk-dodges-question-about-accepting-legal-liability-for-tesla-full-self-driving-cars
• Tesla profits dip as it invests in factory upgrades and AI development
• https://www.threads.net/@keubikooriginal/post/CyjavWouN0w
• X will start charging new users in two countries $1 per year
• ChargePoint is bringing Tesla’s NACS plug to its vast network of EV chargers
• These space-saving public EV chargers are ridiculously fast and rolling out now
• FCC kicks off fight to restore net neutrality
• https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/19/23923617/nokia-announces-14000-job-cuts-amid-5g-downturn
• Here comes another Netflix price hike
• Netflix’s first live sports broadcast pairs up F1 drivers with pro golfers 
• Spotify launches hub for artists’ merch
• YouTube might make an official way to create AI Drake fakes
• Get ready to see a lot more product ads in YouTube videos
• YouTube wants to get you watching more news from ‘authoritative sources’
• There’s no way you’ll miss YouTube’s like and subscribe buttons now
• There's no way you'll miss YouTube's like and subscribe buttons now
• How Ecobee is becoming the smart home company Nest should have been

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Today on the flagship podcast of glassholes: 

The Verge’s David Pierce chats with Victoria Song about her experience using the new Ray-Ban smart glasses from Meta. 

• Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses hands-on: in pursuit of content 

The Verge’s Sean Hollister and iFixit’s Kyle Wiens join the show to discuss the latest legislation in the right to repair and what’s next for the future of fixing your own gadgets. 

• Right-to-repair is now the law in California

The Verge’s Nathan Edwards answers this week’s Vergecast Hotline question. 

• The iPhone 15 and 15 Pro launch with ‘future Qi2 wireless charging.’ Here’s why.

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In episode two of our connectivity mini series, The Verge's David Pierce chats with Eric Migicovsky co-founder of Beeper. Beeper is a universal messaging app trying to take all your messages from all your apps and put them in one place. Is this the future of chat?

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss the Meta Quest 3 review, Google gadgets, and Threads continuing to compete with X.

Chris Welch joins the show to discuss the result of Sonos' legal battle with Google.

Further reading:

• Google Pixel Watch 2 review: better battery, better watch
• Pixel 8 and 8 Pro review: in Google we trust?
• WordPress now offers official support for ActivityPub 
• Threads is getting an edit button — and you don’t have to pay for it
• @mosseri • We’re not anti-news
• At US v. Google antitrust trial, the Apple search deal takes center stage 
• Judge blasts Sonos for abusing patent system and throws out $32.5 million win against Google
• Google is already bringing back the software features it removed because of Sonos’ lawsuit 
• Sonos vows to keep fighting Google for the benefit of smaller companies – and its own revenue
• Ruling pdf: https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/znpnznkjgpl/GOOGLE%20SONOS%20TRIAL%20ruling.pdf
• Google has fixed its recent history of terrible speakers with the Pixel 8 Pro 
• Alameda’s paper trail leads straight to Sam Bankman-Fried
• Samsung joins Google in RCS shaming Apple 
• Sony’s new PS5 with a removable disc drive launches in November

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Today on the flagship podcast of AI-generated wallpapers:

03:22 - The Verge's David Pierce chats with Allison Johnson about her review of the Pixel 8 and Pixel 8 Pro.

• Pixel 8 and 8 Pro review: in Google we trust?

29:18 - Victoria Song joins the show to discuss her review of the updated Pixel Watch 2.

• Google Pixel Watch 2 review: better battery, better watch

56:02 - Monica Chin stops by to explain the new "Chromebook Plus" certification on higher-end Chromebooks.

• Chromebook Plus is Google’s new certification for premium Chromebooks

1:22:42 - Keep listening for the Vergecast Hotline question all about music playlists.

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In episode one of our miniseries all about connectivity, The Verge’s David Pierce talks with Ilya Pozin, founder and CEO of Telly, a new startup promising to give you a free 55-inch TV with an additional second screen for ads and apps.

Before founding Telly, Ilya Pozin also founded PlutoTV, one of the first and most successful ad-based streaming services. There are many similarities between these two companies, and Ilya has a grander vision for how he sees the world and how he thinks he can revolutionize the TV hardware and TV show business.

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The Verge’s Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss the announcement of Google’s Pixel 8 phone, along with the new AI tools that raise lots of questions.

Further reading:

• Google Pixel 8 launch event: the 7 biggest announcements
• Google Pixel 8 hands-on: a little bit smaller and a little bit smarter 
• The Pixel 8 Pro hands-on: better cameras, a brighter screen, and new AI 
• Google Pixel 8 will get seven years of Android updates
• Google Photos’ new AI tools for Pixel 8 raise messy questions 
• Google releases Android 14 for Pixel phones
• Android 14 gets AI-generated wallpapers on Google’s latest Pixels
• Google Pixel Watch 2 hands-on: new sensors, longer battery, better accuracy
• Google announces new colors and features for its Pixel Buds Pro earbuds 
• Netflix is planning to raise prices... again
• Streaming service price increases: the latest on Netflix, Disney Plus, Max, Hulu, and more
• Paramount uploads Mean Girls to TikTok across 23 video clips 
• The Humane Ai Pin makes its debut on the runway at Paris Fashion Week 
• https://www.threads.net/@mosseri/post/Cx8M6xqAWeC/
• Apple addresses iPhone 15 overheating with a new iOS 17 update
• Paris Hilton gets special deal to post on X
• LG is dropping ATSC 3.0 from its TVs next year 
• The Verge and dbrand have partnered on new skins for the Pixel 8, iPhone 15, and more
• iPhone 15 Pro Max camera: 1000 photos later, it’s still missing something

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Today on the flagship podcast of The Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890: 

01:43 - The Verge’s David Pierce chats with policy editor Adi Robertson and reporter Makena Kelly about US v. Google, and what we’ve learned so far. They also talk about the FTC’s lawsuit against Amazon, which could be the next big tech trial. 

• US v. Google antitrust trial: updates 
• Amazon reportedly used a secret algorithm to jack up prices
• Satya Nadella tells a court that Bing is worse than Google — and Apple could fix it
• Why the US is suing Amazon

28:46 - Later, senior correspondent Liz Lopatto joins the show to preview the trial of Sam Bankman-Fried, the former CEO of FTX.

• FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried is on trial for fraud and conspiracy

52:36 - Keep listening for this week’s Vergecast hotline question with Alex Cranz.

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