The Vergecast

The Verge's David Pierce, Nilay Patel, and Alex Cranz break down an awkward interview out of the Code Conference from X (formerly Twitter) CEO Linda Yaccarino. Then, the crew gets into all the big news from Meta's Connect event where the Quest 3 and Meta Smart Glasses were announced.

Further reading:

• The Code Conference 2023: news, interviews, and more
• Linda Yaccarino defends Elon Musk, X, and herself at Code 2023 [FULL INTERVIEW] 
• AMD CEO Lisa Su on the GPU shortage, the AI revolution, and Nvidia | Decoder
• Yoel Roth warns new X CEO about Elon and company status [FULL INTERVIEW]
• Artifact is becoming Twitter, too, thanks to new posts feature
• The Quest 3 is Meta’s last chance to win the headset war before it truly begins
• The Meta Quest 3 is sharper, more powerful, and still trying to make mixed reality happen
• Meta’s Mark Zuckerberg on Threads, the future of AI, and Quest 3
• Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses: livestreaming, headphone-replacing eyewear
• Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses hands-on: in pursuit of content
• The new WGA contract will change how Hollywood works
• Summary of the 2023 WGA MBA
• Streaming giants have banded together for lobbying power
• Apple and Google are changing how you listen to podcasts
• Google Podcasts shut down in 2024 as podcasts debut globally for YouTube Music
• Logitech now sells a $299 folding chair
• Former Amazon hardware boss Dave Limp will take over as CEO of Blue Origin

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Today on the flagship podcast of the laserdisc resurgence: 

While Netflix’s DVD.com service shuts down later this week, The Verge's David Pierce chats with Bill Rouhana, the CEO of Chicken Soup for The Soul Entertainment, about the potential of Redbox and physical media in 2023. 

• Netflix’s DVD service shuts down: here’s the complex tech behind it

Later, David and Alex Cranz talk with New York Magazine’s John Herrman about his recent story on social media metrics and what they actually mean. 

• Lies, Damned Lies, and Social-Media Metrics

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In part three of our AI mini series, David Pierce dives into the decades-long endeavor to build a virtual assistant. What can a virtual assistant do? What do we want it to do?

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss all the announcements from Amazon's fall product launch event and Microsoft's Surface and AI event.

Further reading:

• Amazon’s fall 2023 product launch event: live news, announcements, and more
• Amazon is set to supercharge Alexa with generative AI 
• The Fire TV should be at the heart of Amazon's smart home 
• The new $269.99 Echo Frames look a whole lot more like glasses. 
• Alexa Eye Gaze offers a new way to control Alexa on a Fire tablet 
• In the new Echo Show 8, Alexa will be 40 percent faster. 
• Finally some hardware...for kids.
• YouTube is going all in on AI with background and video topic suggestions
• YouTube made a video editing app — just like TikTok 
• Microsoft Surface event: the 6 biggest announcements 
• Microsoft’s new Xbox controller borrows great ideas from Stadia, Steam, and Sony
• This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a lift-to-wake controller
• Microsoft’s next Xbox, coming 2028, envisions hybrid computing
• Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo
• Microsoft’s Phil Spencer says acquiring Nintendo would be ‘a career moment’ 
• Microsoft announces the Surface Laptop Studio 2 with upgraded chips and ports
• A first look at Microsoft’s upgraded Surface Laptop Studio 2 
• Microsoft announces the new Surface Laptop Go 3
• Hands-on with the Surface Laptop Go 3 
• The Surface Go 4 comes with a much-needed performance boost 
• Microsoft 365 Copilot launches in November
• Windows 11’s next big update arrives on September 26th with Copilot, RAR support, and more
• Microsoft announces Surface Hub 3 with portrait mode 
• The cable bundle of the future is officially here
• Google’s Bard chatbot can now find answers in your Gmail, Docs, Drive
• The Home Assistant Green is here to make the most powerful smart home platform more accessible

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Today on the flagship podcast of the Action Button:

03:34 - The Verge's David Pierce chats with Allison Johnson and Dan Seifert about their reviews of the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro.

41:02 - Victoria Song joins the show to talk about her review of the Apple Watch Series 9 and Apple Watch Ultra 2.

1:07:58 - David chats with Isaac Mosna and Widgetsmith's David Smith about customizing your iPhone wallpaper and widgets.

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In episode two of The Vergecast's AI mini series, David Pierce sits down with Switched on Pop's Charlie Harding and music producer Ian Kimmel to share how they made an entire song from scratch using a bunch of AI tools.

Later, Nilay Patel joins the discussion to talk about the future of AI in the music industry.

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It's been a week! The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz rejoin the studio to process all the tech news and announcements. Apple had its annual hardware event where the iPhone 15 and new Apple Watch lineup were shown off.

Later, senior tech and policy reporter Adi Robertson joins the show to walk us through the US v Google antitrust trial that kicked off earlier in the week.

Further reading:

• iPhone 15 event: all the news on Apple's new phones 
• Here's why Apple put a Thread radio in the iPhone 15 Pro 
• Rumors of Lightning’s death are just slightly exaggerated
• The iPhone Mini is officially gone, long live the iPhone Mini
• USB-C Backbone One controllers will be ‘upgraded’ to work with the iPhone 15 lineup.
• The iPhone is getting new ringtones with iOS 17
• Apple announces more iOS 17 features coming later this year: Apple Music updates
• How Google plans to win its antitrust trial
• What to expect from the Google Search antitrust trial 
• US v. Google antitrust trial: updates
• Developers respond to Unity’s new pricing scheme
• Unity cancels town hall over reported death threats
• What happens when Google Search doesn't have the answers?
• Google AMP: how Google tried to fix the web by taking it over
• A storefront for robots
• The little search engine that couldn't
• Who killed Google Reader?

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After attending Apple's fall hardware event, The Verge's Nilay Patel, Allison Johnson, Dan Seifert and Victoria Song break down the biggest announcements: the iPhone 15, 15 Pro, the new Apple Watch Series 9 and the Ultra 2.

Further Reading:

• All the big conferences and events in tech, entertainment, and automotive coming this fall
• iPhone 15 event live blog: all the news from Apple's keynote
• Apple iPhone 15 event: the seven biggest announcements 
• Apple announces iPhone 15 with USB-C, a camera upgrade, and the Dynamic Island
• Apple iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max announced with titanium bodies and an Action Button
• iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max hands-on
• A first look at the new iPhone 15 with USB-C and a big camera upgrade
• Apple's cheapest iPhone 15 Pro Max now costs more — but also has double the storage 
• Apple is releasing iOS 17 and iPadOS 17 on September 18th
• Apple announces Apple Watch Series 9, and it has a handy double-tap feature 
• Apple Watch Ultra 2: price, release date, and features 
• Apple is switching the AirPods Pro charging case to USB-C
• Apple’s USB-C AirPods Pro will support lossless audio with the Vision Pro
• Apple's Lightning connector was the first great port — and USB-C might be the last
• Post-process: why the smartphone camera changed photography forever
• The iPhone 7 Plus vs. the original iPhone: a camera showdown 
• The iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max are the first smartphones with Thread

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In part one of The Vergecast's AI mini series, David Pierce dives into the boom of voice synthesis and artificially generated speech. The process is a lot more accessible for everyone, but how realistic can it sound?

Further reading:

• AI voices are taking over the internet
• Everyone will be able to clone their voice in the future

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The Verge's David Pierce, Alex Cranz, Richard Lawler, and Dan Seifert discuss what to expect at Apple's iPhone 15 event, the drama behind the scenes with Disney's CEOs, and some more gadget news.

Further reading:

• iPhone and iPad apps will be available in the Vision Pro App Store by default 
• Sonos announces Move 2 speaker with stereo sound and 24-hour battery life
• Google leaks Pixel 8 Pro again with a 360-degree preview
• GoPro’s new Hero 12 Black will let you film continuously for longer 
• A GoPro Max successor is coming
• What goes into designing a solar-powered Bluetooth speaker
• Bob Iger and Bob Chapek's CEO battle made Disney the pettiest place on Earth
• YouTube is experimenting with longer but less frequent ad breaks on TV
• Roku turns to layoffs (again) and removes streaming content to cut costs 
• Chrome is about to look a bit different
• Google’s cookie-replacing Privacy Sandbox reaches major milestone
• How to disable Chrome’s new targeted ad tracking
• Clubhouse reinvents itself as an audio messaging app
• MrBeast just dropped a new YouTube face

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The Verge's David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Richard Lawler discuss all the gadgets announced at IFA 2023, the next flagship phone events from Apple and Google, and a whole lot more.

Also: Nilay Patel breaks news about the 5G banana surgery.

Further reading:

• No, they did not do surgery on a banana over 5G
• Apple’s September iPhone event: how to watch and what to expect 
• Google leaked Google’s flagship Pixel 8 Pro, again
• Google sets its Pixel 8 launch event for October 4th
• Google kills Pixel Pass without ever upgrading subscriber’s phones
• Taylor Swift Eras Tour is coming to theaters this October
• Starfield review: a stellar sci-fi refresh of the Bethesda RPG formula 
• Sony is raising PlayStation Plus prices up to $40 per year 
• Dolby might have found a way to make built-in TV speakers sound much better
• Instagram may be making Reels longer to compete with TikTok
• Google’s Duet AI now available in Docs, Gmail, and other Workspace apps 
• IFA 2023: the biggest announcements from Europe’s big tech show
• Alexa and Google Assistant play together nicely, but not perfectly, on JBL’s new speakers
• Anker's new MagGo wireless chargers might charge iPhones just as fast as MagSafe 
• Philips Hue has three new smart security cameras
• Jlab’s $39.99 Jbuds Mini are the smallest yet. 
• How Google made the world go viral
• We sent the top ANC headphones to a lab to test their noise-canceling abilities
• This USB button helps Jeopardy! contestants get their buzz on
• The future of Tesla is in China

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Today on the flagship podcast of social media monetization strategies:

04:05 -The Verge''s David Pierce and Nilay Patel chat with Taylor Lorenz about her new book Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet

55:26 - Adi Robertson joins the show to explains why publishers, and the music industry, would have a bone to pick with the Internet Archive.

1:23:13 -Vjeran Pavic helps out with this week's Vergecast Hotline question.

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Richard Lawler discuss Threads' new web app, Sony's Playstation handheld, NFL 4K streaming, AI music copyright, and a whole lot more.

Further reading:

• Elon Musk says (yet again) that X will stop letting you block users
• X glitch wipes out most pictures and links tweeted before December 2014 
• X fixed the ‘bug’ that broke images attached to tweets from before 2014 
• X tests removing headlines from links to news articles
• Elon Musk says news organizations can get a share of X’s advertising revenue, too.
• Threads on the web is here
• NFL Sunday Ticket has arrived on the Google TV homescreen
• Amazon is bringing a whole lot of AI to Thursday Night Football this season 
• Sony’s portable PlayStation Portal launches later this year for $199.99 
• Sony’s PlayStation wireless earbuds will cost a whopping $199.99 
• Sony’s PlayStation division is acquiring headphone maker Audeze
• This batarang houses Qualcomm’s next big bet on gaming
• Somebody already unboxed the Quest 3
• Microsoft kills Kinect again 
• Corsair’s first standing desk is designed for gaming, streaming, and more
• Google and YouTube are trying to have it both ways with AI and copyright
• Microsoft is bringing Python to Excel
• Netflix is going to let DVD subscribers keep unreturned discs for free
• White Noise Podcasters Are Costing Spotify $38 Million a Year - Bloomberg
• Sonic Spectrum: a journey into noise white, pink, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple & violet

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Today on the flagship podcast of payment processing fees:

04:36 - The Verge's David Pierce travels to meet Keegan McNamara, an artisan who is making unique computers for more purposeful use cases.

• A visit to the one-man computer factory

27:11 - Liz Lopatto and Alex Heath join the show to discuss the future of "super apps" in the United States — notably the one Elon Musk is trying to build with X, formerly known as Twitter.

• Everything Elon Musk told Twitter employees in his first company meeting
• Can Elon Musk turn Twitter into an ‘everything app’?
• Here’s what Elon Musk wants to do with X, his ‘everything app’

1:09:54 - Keep listening for this week's Vergecast Hotline question.

• What is a custom feed and how do I make one? – Reddit Help

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Dan Seifert discuss the iMac's 25th anniversary, the state of streaming, a TV in a suitcase, and a whole lot more.

Further reading:

• Linus Tech Tips pauses production as controversy swirls
• They Review Movies on TikTok, but Don’t Call Them Critics
• YouTube is adding chat, highlights, and Shorts to NFL Sunday Ticket
• It’s official, people aren’t watching TV as much as they used to
• iMac at 25: a visual history of Apple's iconic all-in-one computer 
• How the iMac saved Apple
• For a generation of students, the iMac was a gateway to the future
• In a world full of laptops, is there a place for the iMac?
• Apple moved the end call button again in iOS 17 
• These iOS 17 Features Won't Be Available at Launch - MacRumors
• Everything New in iOS 17 Beta 6 - MacRumors  
• DisplayPort: A Better Video Interface | Hackaday 
• LG now sells this bizarre TV in a suitcase, and I must have it 
• Samsung Galaxy Tab S9 family review: easier choices 
• Google Chrome will summarize entire articles for you with built-in generative AI
• OpenAI wants GPT-4 to solve the content moderation dilemma 
• An Iowa school district is using ChatGPT to decide which books to ban
• The Biden administration urges the Supreme Court to take up content moderation cases
• Special counsel obtained ‘some volume’ of DMs from Donald Trump’s Twitter account
• Microsoft to hold ‘special event’ in New York City on September 21st

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Today on the flagship podcast of non-exclusive distribution deals: 

02:15 - The Verge’s David Pierce, Nilay Patel, and Richard Lawler discuss how the future of sports streaming will have a lot to say about the future of entertainment.

41:57 - David chats with director Alex Winter about his new documentary The YouTube Effect. 

1:12:00 - Keep listening for this week’s hotline question about Windows 11.

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz break down the chaotic and increasingly more expensive state of streaming video. Are we just recreating cable TV? And afterwards, the crew explores the wild world enterprise software.

Further reading:

• Disney Plus and Hulu are about to get even more expensive
• The Emmy Awards are officially delayed because of the writers and actors strikes
• Disney is ‘actively exploring’ ways to crack down on password sharing
• What does Bob Iger think about selling Disney to Apple?
• Paramount says it has a plan to weather the Hollywood strikes.
• Barbie earns $1 billion at the box office worldwide
• Verizon will soon raise prices on certain unlimited plans — yes, again
• Slack’s redesign: new DM and Activity sections and more features in the messaging app 
• Verizon is shutting down BlueJeans, which it bought for $400 million
• Zoom says its new AI tools aren’t stealing ownership of your content
• The LK-99 ‘superconductor’ went viral — here’s what the experts think
• Cadillac’s Escalade IQ is the next GM vehicle to lack Apple CarPlay
• MrBeast’s burger company is suing him for $100 million
• You can now verify your Threads profile on Mastodon

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Today we're sharing an episode of Land of the Giants: The Tesla Shock Wave

Not many people can name the original founders of Tesla. So how did two guys who wanted to build an electric car create a company synonymous with Elon Musk?

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss YouTube adding a slew of new TikTok-like features to Shorts, Elon Musk's extravagant 'X' sign, and much more.

We also go through this week's emails. The Samsung fans have spoken.

Further reading:

• Elon Musk wants a second chance to fail at X
• Elon Musk capitulates: Twitter will default to dark mode but still offer a light option
• Twitter Blue subscribers can now hide their blue checks
• Elon Musk's extravagant 'X' sign atop the former Twitter HQ has been dismantled 
• Elon Musk’s X sues anti-hate researchers for allegedly scraping data from Twitter
• Do you want to buy stocks on X?
• YouTube is adding a slew of new TikTok-like features to Shorts
• BBC launches an ‘experimental’ Mastodon server
• LG 27GR95QE-B review: ushering in a new age for gaming monitors
• Some details on what Apple needs to ship the Apple Vision Pro developer kits. 
• Apple’s Vision Pro platform joins Pixar’s bid to standardize 3D content
• The Excel World Championship esport is coming back to ESPN this week
• Exclusive: the Sonos Move 2 is coming in September with stereo sound and 24-hour battery life
• MrBeast is suing his ghost kitchen partner over ‘inedible’ MrBeast Burgers

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Today on the flagship podcast of texting on the outside screen: 

03:28 - The Verge’s David Pierce chats with Allison Johnson and Dan Seifert about the software design of Samsung’s new Galaxy Z Flip 5 and Galaxy Z Fold 5. 

32:54 - David takes a trip to the Dave & Busters to find out why the games on your phone ended up in your local arcade.

49:48 - Alex Heath joins the show to discuss his experience getting his eye scanned by an orb from Worldcoin, a crypto startup co-founded by OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.

1:14:45 - Our hotline question of the week about wearables without screens.

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and Richard Lawler discuss Twitter being rebranded as X.

Allison Johnson joins the show to discuss everything announced at Samsung’s Galaxy Flip 5 and Fold 5 Unpacked event.

Also: we read your emails!

Further reading:

• Twitter is being rebranded as X
• Elon Musk just changed Twitter’s logo again — sort of 
• Can Elon Musk really use that X logo for Twitter?
• For Elon Musk, X equals everything 
• Twitter Blue’s former lead talks about Elon Musk, X, and sleeping on the floor
• Twitter Japan will be called simply, Japan
• Threads is rolling out its Following feed 
• You can’t just leave Threads in the Following feed
• The Galaxy Z Fold 5 is last year’s phone with a new hinge
• The Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 5 gets a big little screen upgrade 
• Samsung goes OLED all the way with the Galaxy Tab S9 tablets
• The Samsung Galaxy Watch 6 series is all about the bezels 
• DJI Air 3 review: old ideas, new package
• OpenAI can’t tell if something was written by AI after all
• Seven major automakers are teaming up on a North American EV charging network
• T-Mobile says its ultrafast 5G capable of up to 3.3Gbps is rolling out now
• Boost Infinite’s $25 unlimited wireless plan is now on Amazon Prime
• T-Mobile’s charging a $5 fee for in-store bill payments
• My first MP3 player had everything I needed 
• Looking back at the original Chromecast, which just turned 10 years old
• Japan’s indie game scene is growing up
• How to build a better search engine than Google

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Today on the flagship podcast of answering machines: 

We answer your questions from The Vergecast Hotline! 

01:51 - LDAC and other audio codecs

06:21 - Samsung TV

07:58 - Smartwatches for marathons

16:38 - iPhone upgrades

23:09 - Threads 

29:52 - Security cameras

40:46 - Laptops

39:13 - Google Pixel

50:54 - Android phones

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss all the gadget news from this week, the state of EV charging for non-Tesla owners, the unions of Hollywood on strike, and much more.

Further reading:

• Beats Studio Pro headphones review: leaning on a legacy
• The future of EV charging for non-Tesla owners may not be as bad as it looks
• HP Spectre x360 13.5 vs. Dell XPS 13: which flagship should you buy?
• Motorola G Stylus 5G (2023) review: a good phone spoiled by bloatware 
• Framework Laptop 16: our exclusive hands-on
• OnePlus 12 leaks show a bigger battery and faster charging
• Logitech buys Stream Deck rival Loupedeck  
• Tesla reveals Cybertruck size specs as it builds release candidates
• Meta is giving away its AI tech to try to beat ChatGPT
• Apple is testing an AI chatbot but has no idea what to do with it
• The unions of Hollywood are trying to save it from itself
• Bob Iger’s big ideas for Disney involve cost-cutting at Marvel
• A real-time reaction to the actors’ strike.
• TREE LAW
• Vox Media drops its own CMS
• Netflix reportedly has around 1.5 million subscribers on its ad tier in the US.
• The Biden administration is tackling smart devices with a new cybersecurity label 
• Here’s why 70mm IMAX movies like Oppenheimer need a Palm Pilot to work
• Your Starbucks order is not ready

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Today on the flagship podcast of sustainable supply chain economics: 

03:27 - CEO of Nothing Carl Pei sits down with The Verge’s David Pierce to discuss the new Phone 2, Carl’s vision for the company, his thoughts on AI, foldables, VR, and much more.

• Nothing Phone 2 review: the vibes abide 
• Nothing CEO Carl Pei on the Phone 2, AI, and the future of gadgets (video version of interview here)

50:02 - Later, Vergecast producers Andru Marino and Liam James debate with David the best and worst TV remotes, and what makes a good remote design. Watch the YouTube version to see all the remotes we talk about.

• 3 Kinds of Simplicity :: UXmatters  
• Philips Design - Simplifying TV remote (UX Case Study)

1:25:19 - Keep listening for the Vergecast Hotline question of the week. 

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss Microsoft winning the case against the FTC for its Activision Blizzard deal. Also: the Nothing Phone 2 and more gadgets.

Further reading:

• Meta-provided Facebook chats led a woman to plead guilty to abortion-related charges
• Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard
• Read Xbox chief Phil Spencer’s memo to Microsoft employees about the FTC win
• FTC appeals its loss to Microsoft in Activision Blizzard case
• Nothing Phone 2 review: the vibes abide
• Is the Nothing Phone (2)’s camera better than these? 
• Apple iMac rumor suggests a 32-inch version is being considered
• Sarah Silverman is suing OpenAI and Meta for copyright infringement

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Today on the flagship podcast of transformers (both the movie and the AI thing): 

03:46 - The Verge’s Victoria Song, Chris Welch, Allison Johnson, and David Pierce discuss using the new features and tools in beta versions of Apple’s watchOS 10, tvOS 17, iOS 17, and iPadOS 17. 

28:36 - The Verge’s James Vincent joins the show to discuss how we should think about using the popular vocabulary terms in AI like GPT, LLM, transformers, hallucinations, etc. Are we using them the right way? Does it matter how we use them? 

54:20 - David is joined by The Verge’s Ash Parrish and Polygon’s Chris Plante to share the video games they are most excited about after a string of announcements from Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Ubisoft, Summer Game Fest, and others. 

1:25:46 - We answer a question from the Vergecast Hotline

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The Verge's David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Alex Heath discuss Meta's launch of Threads, a new competitor to Twitter. Later, Nilay Patel calls in to give his take.

Further reading:

• Instagram Threads: why Meta is competing with Twitter
• Meta unspools Threads
• Instagram’s Threads: everything you need to know about the new Twitter competitor
• Instagram’s Twitter competitor, Threads, briefly went live on the web
• Instagram Threads won’t be available in the EU at launch. 
• People are posting a lot on Threads.
• Here’s how Twitter’s leadership is responding to Instagram Threads.
• Mastodon CEO Eugen Rochko on what Threads means for the fediverse.
• Instagram flooded Threads with celebrities and brands at launch
• So what’s next for Threads? DMs “maybe...”
• Mark Zuckerberg on when Instagram Threads will get ads
• Spielberg, Scorsese, and Anderson have swooped in to save Turner Classic Movies 
• Google confirms it’s training AI using scraped web data
• The TSA will use facial recognition in over 400 airports

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The Verge's David Pierce, Nilay Patel, and Alex Cranz discuss results from our AI survey, this week's AI news, our Apple Mac Pro review, and more.

Later, Adi Robertson and Tom Warren join the show to discuss the latest in the FTC v. Microsoft trial, including what Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella had to say on the stand.

• Hope, fear, and AI 
• AI is killing the old web, and the new web struggles to be born
• ChatGPT on iOS now comes with Bing built-in
• Ads for major brands are appearing on AI-generated spam sites
• House restricts congressional use of ChatGPT
• AI-generated tweets might be more convincing than real people, research finds
• Apple Mac Pro M2 Ultra review: a powerful computer in search of an audience
• The AirPods Max are getting left behind, so are new Apple headphones coming this year?
• Reddit mods are calling for an ‘affordable return’ for third-party apps
• Plex lays off more than 20 percent of its staff
• Ford’s F-150 Lightning price hikes are costing it customers
• TikTok’s new feature asks creators to make branded videos for a chance at ad money
• FTC v. Microsoft: all the news from the big Xbox courtroom battle 
• The FTC’s case against Microsoft could turn into Xbox vs. PlayStation
• Has Xbox really lost the console wars?  
• Microsoft exec was ready to ‘go spend Sony out of business’ to strengthen Xbox

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Today on the flagship podcast of the console wars: 

02:42 - David Pierce chats with Verge senior editor Tom Warren about the five-day trial between Microsoft and the FTC that will determine the future of its $68.7 billion proposed acquisition of Activision Blizzard. 

• FTC v. Microsoft: all the news from the big Xbox courtroom battle
• Has Xbox really lost the console wars? 
• Microsoft exec was ready to ‘go spend Sony out of business’ to strengthen Xbox

35:00 - Policy reporter Makena Kelly joins the show to explain what Congress is trying to do to address child safety online. 

• Texas bans kids from social media without parental consent
• New bill would add mandatory age verification to social networks

1:03:07 - The Verge’s Allison Johnson and Dan Seifert discuss our Google Pixel Fold review, and how it stacks up against other foldables and flippables. 

• Google Pixel Fold review: closing the gap 
• The Pixel Fold shows how far ahead Samsung’s folding phones are 
• Motorola Razr Plus review: the right moves

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss the vibe shift that is happening on social media and the communal internet.

Further reading:

• Instagram’s upcoming Twitter competitor shown in leaked screenshots
• Facebook, Fosstodon & The Fediverse
• Daring Fireball: Not That Kind of 'Open'
• Daring Fireball: More on Preemptively Blocking Facebook’s Imminent ActivityPub Entry
• It's September, Forever
• Mark Zuckerberg agrees to Elon Musk cage match challenge 
• Reddit removed moderators behind the latest protests before restoring a few of them
• Reddit says it’s ‘not acceptable’ for communities to go NSFW in protest
• Google Pixel Tablet review: the dock makes all the difference
• Apple reportedly has fitness features for the Vision Pro we haven’t seen yet
• Easily replaceable phone batteries might be back, and I’m here for it
• Gary Vaynerchuk is 'petrified' of Slack
• TikTok COO V. Pappas has reportedly quit
• Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Series X and Xbox Game Pass
• DPReview will live, actually — under new ownership

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Today on the flagship podcast of open-source lightbulbs: 

David Pierce chats with Verge investigations editor Josh Dzieza about his story detailing how humans matter far more to AI development than we may have thought.

• Inside the AI Factory: the humans that make tech seem human

Later, smart home reviewer Jennifer Pattison Tuohy explains why we're probably getting the idea of a “smart home” all wrong.

• Smart homes for smart people
• How microgrids and smart homes are shaping our energy-independent future
• Every device that works with Matter
• What is a smart home, and do you need one?
• How to pick a smart home platform
• From brilliant to basic, here are our smart home setups

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Jay Peters discuss all the news about the API changes infuriating Redditors, as well as takeaways from Jay's interview with Reddit CEO Steve Huffman.

Later on the show: will the Apple Vision Pro replace the TV?

Further reading:

• Reddit CEO Steve Huffman isn’t backing down: our full interview
• Reddit CEO Steve Huffman: Reddit ‘was never designed to support third-party apps’
• Reddit crashed because of the growing subreddit blackout
• Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’
• How Reddit set itself up for a fall
• Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts
• The Apple Vision Pro might be a TV, but it won’t replace the TV
• Steve Jobs Showing off Macintosh to Andy Warhol, Keith Haring and Kenny Scharf in 1984 ~ Vintage Everyday
• In the bid to grow at all costs, Instant Pot is cooking itself and has filed for bankruptcy
• Live Nation-Ticketmaster to disclose full ticket prices upfront 
• Twitter sued for $250 million by music publishers over ‘massive’ copyright infringement
• The Meater smart meat thermometer now supports the iPhone Dynamic Island and Live Activities.
• Instagram’s status update now includes what song you’re listening to
• It’s not just you: Steam suddenly looks nice

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Today on the flagship podcast of suddenly private subreddits: 

01:45 - David Pierce and Nilay Patel call up Christian Selig, who runs the popular Reddit app Apollo, to talk about the changes to the platform that have infuriated Redditors, and what it means for the future of Reddit. 

• Reddit’s API updates: all the news about changes that have infuriated Redditors 
• More than 6,000 subreddits have gone dark to protest Reddit’s API changes
• Apollo’s developer on Reddit’s new API changes, and why users revolted

46:15 - Then, David talks with deputy editor Alex Heath about Meta’s reaction to the new Apple Vision Pro headset, and that new Twitter competitor the company is launching.

• Here’s what Mark Zuckerberg thinks about Apple’s Vision Pro
• Instagram’s upcoming Twitter competitor shown in leaked screenshots

1:09:54 - After that, senior reviewer Monica Chin joins the show to discuss her review of Apple’s new 15-inch Macbook Air. 

• Apple MacBook Air 15-inch review: exactly what was asked for

1:33:24 - Keep listening for this week’s Vergecast hotline question. 

• www.babylist.com 
• https://www.youtube.com/c/DadVerb

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss all the updates to Apple's iOS, macOS, watchOS, and iPadOS announced at WWDC this week.

Later, Verge senior correspondent Liz Lopatto joins the show to explain the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) suing crypto exchanges Binance and Coinbase, and what it means for the future of crypto.

Further reading:

• Apple WWDC 10 biggest announcements: Vision Pro, MacBook Air, iOS 17, and more
• watchOS 10 is bringing back widgets in a big way
• Apple’s iPadOS 17 adds personalized lock screen and interactive widgets
• Apple’s Siri will soon handle multiple smart home commands
• Apple’s iPadOS 17 adds personalized lock screen and interactive widgets
• Apple announces iOS 17 with StandBy charging mode and better autocorrect 
• Standby is a new iOS 17 feature for your iPhone that could be great for Apple Home users
• Online age verification is coming, and privacy is on the chopping block
• Hands-on with the new 15-inch MacBook Air 
• Apple announces macOS Sonoma with game mode and support for desktop widgets
• Mac Pro with M2 Ultra first look: boy, that’s a big chip
• All the features Apple didn’t mention in its WWDC 2023 keynote
• The SEC is suing crypto giant Binance, here’s all the details
• The SEC is trying to freeze Binance’s assets
• The SEC sues crypto exchange Coinbase for breaking US securities laws

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The Vergecast's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Dan Seifert are challenged to a game of tech trivia by Waveform's Marques Brownlee, Andrew Manganelli, and David Imel.

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On Apple's campus, The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Dan Seifert discuss the long-rumored Apple Vision Pro that was announced this week at WWDC.

Later, Marques Brownlee, Andrew Manganelli, and David Imel of the Waveform podcast join the show for a lightning round of everyone's favorite WWDC announcements.

Coming soon: the Vergecast and Waveform team challenge each other to trivia!

Further reading:

• Apple WWDC 10 biggest announcements: Vision Pro, MacBook Air, iOS 17, and more
• Apple Vision Pro is Apple’s new $3,499 AR headset
• Apple announces visionOS, the operating system for its Vision Pro headset
• Apple Vision Pro first look: the mixed reality future is (almost) here
• I wore the Apple Vision Pro. It’s the best headset demo ever.
• Optic ID will unlock Apple’s new Vision Pro headset 
• Apple’s Vision Pro headset will turn you into a digital avatar when FaceTiming
• Everywhere Apple imagines you’ll use its $3,500 Vision Pro headset 
• Apple’s new VR headset will feature over 100 Apple Arcade games at launch
• Disney Plus and VR sports games are coming to Apple Vision Pro
• Microsoft Word, Excel, and Teams are all coming to Apple’s new Vision Pro headset
• What’s so ‘pro’ about Apple’s Vision Pro headset?
• The Vision Pro headset is really Apple’s first TV

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The Verge's David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Adi Robertson discuss Meta's new Quest 3 VR headset that was announced ahead of Apple's WWDC event, which is widely believed to showcase an Apple headset.

Deputy editor Dan Seifert joins the show to discuss the rest of the WWDC rumors and theories.

Further reading:

• Meta announces its Quest 3 VR headset, which will cost $499.99 
• The biggest announcements from Meta's Quest Gaming Showcase 
• Apple’s mixed reality headset: all the reports about the rumored AR / VR headset
• Apple’s VR headset might run tweaked versions of iPad apps
• WWDC 2023: what to expect at Apple’s Worldwide Developers Conference
• Apple might announce ‘several’ Macs at WWDC 
• The Motorola Razr Plus' new cover screen is a big deal 
• Amazon Echo Pop review: Alexa for less
• Hot foldable summer is here, and there are good reasons to get excited
• Range Rover’s next luxury add-on: A car seat that vibrates to music
• The ultimate “what is a photo?” gadget.  
• Lisa's Final Act: how Apple invented its future by burying its past 
• Kid Cop Returns (Again and Again)

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Today on the flagship podcast of third-party operating systems: 

The Verge's David Pierce chats with Laine Nooney, author of The Apple II Age: How The Computer Became Personal.

Later, lead video producer Will Poor chats with David about The Verge's new documentary Lisa’s Final Act: How Apple invented its future by burying its past.

To end the show: a hotline question.

• How to transfer playlists from Spotify to Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, or Tidal

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Tom Warren discuss the biggest announcements from Microsoft Build 2023.

Later, the crew discuss the launch of Warner Bros. Discovery’s combined streaming service Max.

Further reading:

• Elon Musk fails to launch Ron DeSantis in disastrous Twitter Space
• Microsoft Build 2023: The 5 biggest announcements
• Microsoft’s Copilot and Bing AI plug-ins will be interoperable with ChatGPT
• Bing is now the default search for ChatGPT
• Microsoft 365 Copilot is getting plug-ins
• Microsoft’s Edge browser is getting the 365 Copilot AI assistant
• Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott thinks Sydney might make a comeback
• Microsoft announces Windows Copilot, an AI ‘personal assistant’ for Windows 11
• Max has arrived, and it’ll feel very familiar to HBO Max customers
• Max will stream over 1,000 movies and TV episodes in 4K at launch
• Warner Bros. Discovery apologizes for crediting writers and directors as ‘creators’ on Max
• HBO Max remote button killed in Max rebrand — 9to5Mac
• HBO Max now Max: lacks native video player features; 'Up Next' support bugs - 9to5Mac
• Sony’s new Q handheld is official: 8-inch screen, streams PS5 games

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Today on the flagship podcast of the Purah Pad:

02:19 - Senator Ed Markey chats with Nilay Patel about the importance of keeping AM radio in cars after many EV manufacturers have started to remove it from new models.

• Cars would be required to keep AM radio under new bipartisan bill
• The shift to EVs is slowly killing off AM radio — and that’s bad for emergency broadcasts

22:09 - Alex Cranz and Sean Hollister talk with SVP of networking at Nvidia Kevin Deierling live at the Computer History Museum for the 50th anniversary of ethernet about the future of connectivity.

• Wired: 50 years of ethernet
• CHM Live | Ethernet@50

52:51 - David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Ash Parrish discuss why The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom works so well and what the rest of the gaming world should do about it.

• The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom review: new powers, new places, but less wonder
• A conversation with The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom’s creative leads
• Tears of the Kingdom’s dungeons were designed with seamlessness in mind
• Tips and tricks to get you through Tears of the Kingdom
• Zelda players turned Tears of the Kingdom into a Korok torture chamber
• The wildest Tears of the Kingdom builds we’ve seen
• Tears of the Kingdom’s puzzle designers are fantastic trolls
• Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom walkthrough and guides - Polygon

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Adi Robertson discuss Montana being the first state to ban TikTok, the Supreme Court ruling against reexamining Section 230, and OpenAI CEO Sam Altman testifying before the Senate.

Then, David interviews vlogger Hank Green about the TikTok ban in Montana.

Later, Verge senior news editor Richard Lawler joins the show to discuss this week in gadgets, from the free Telly TV to the Beats Studio Buds Plus.

• TikTok is now banned in Montana: here’s what you need to know
• Montana bans Telegram, WeChat, and Temu from government devices
• Full Hank Green interview here
• TikTok ban: all the news on attempts to ban the video platform
• Supreme Court puts off showdown over Texas and Florida social media laws
• Supreme Court rules against reexamining Section 230
• Congress hates Big Tech — but it still seems optimistic about AI
• This free TV comes with two screens
• The free TV company briefly wasn’t sure what it should do with data from kids
• Amazon’s latest Echo Buds have an all-new design and much cheaper price
• Amazon’s new Echo Pop is a $40 smart speaker
• Beats Studio Buds Plus review: it’s cool to be clear
• CueCat 
• YouTube is bringing unskippable 30-second ads to TV 
• Max promises shorter ad breaks than other streamers when it launches May 23rd
• Netflix’s ad tier has attracted almost 5 million users
• Apparently, they were all losers in the race to 5G.
• Tesla’s humanoid robot can pick things up and put them down

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Today we're sharing an episode of Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders

AI is making fake Drake/The Weeknd songs, weird images, and there’s a worry that TV and movie scripts could be written by ChatGPT. But it’s also about to dramatically change the way we consume, share, and obsess over pop culture. Nilay Patel, Editor-in-Chief of The Verge, explains to Sam how pretty much everything we search on the internet is mediated by Google… and how AI is about to disrupt it all.

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss the big announcements and takeaways from Google I/O 2023.

Further reading:

• The nine biggest announcements from Google I/O 2023 
• The AI takeover of Google Search starts now 
• Google Perspectives: the new search feature helps you find human information online
• Google rebrands AI tools for Docs and Gmail as Duet AI — its answer to Microsoft’s Copilot
• Google’s new Magic Editor uses AI to totally transform your photos
• Google drops waitlist for AI chatbot Bard and announces oodles of new features
• Google announces PaLM 2 AI language model, already powering 25 Google services 
• Google teases Project Tailwind — a prototype AI notebook that learns from your documents 
• Android’s new generative AI can reply to your texts and design its own wallpaper 
• Google’s Find My Device will soon use billions of Android devices to locate your stuff 
• Google is bringing YouTube, Waze, and Zoom to cars with native Android software
• The Pixel Fold is Google’s $1,800 entry into folding phones
• Google’s new Pixel Tablet is a $500 slate for the home
• Google Pixel 7A review: a better deal
• Google’s new Project Starline prototype isn’t a giant booth
• Disney is finally combining Hulu and Disney Plus into the same app 
• Apple launches Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro on iPad with new subscription pricing

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Today on the flagship podcast of unfolded aspect ratios:

01:03 -The Verge's David Pierce, Nilay Patel, and Alex Cranz discuss the present and future state of Google — it’s this big, complicated, massively successful company that suddenly feels like it’s under threat in a huge number of ways. The crew lay out the stakes and try to figure out where Google is headed. Hot takes included.

38:55 - David, Allison Johnson, and Dan Seifert talk about the hardware revealed at Google I/O: the Pixel 7A, the Pixel Tablet, and the Pixel Fold.

Further reading:

• Google I/O 2023: news, rumors, and announcements 
• What happens when Google Search doesn't have the answers?
• The Pixel Fold is Google’s $1,800 entry into folding phones
• Google’s new Pixel Tablet is a $500 slate for the home
• Google Pixel 7A review: a better deal

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Sarah Jeong discuss Bluesky gaining popularity and why it may be Twitter's most chaotic successor.

Also: is AI going too far too soon?

Further reading:

• shop.theverge.com
• Google announces the Pixel Fold
• Everything happening on Bluesky, Twitter’s most chaotic successor
• Bluesky is starting to feel like Twitter
• Mozilla’s new Mozilla.Social Mastodon instance is an attempt to reinvent content moderation
• ‘Godfather of AI’ quits Google with regrets and fears about his life’s work
• White House rolls out plan to promote ethical AI
• Snapchat is already testing sponsored links in its My AI chatbot
• New ChatGPT Zillow plug-in rolls out to select users today
• AI is being used to generate whole spam sites
• AI offers new tools for making games, but developers worry about their jobs
• Writers are striking and AI rights are on the table.
• Microsoft is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge, and IT admins are angry
• Microsoft’s Bing chatbot gets smarter with restaurant bookings, image results, and more
• Andreessen Horowitz saw the future — but did the future leave it behind?
• Now Gmail has blue verified checkmark icons too 
• Google accounts now support passkeys for password-free sign-in

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Today on the flagship podcast of questionable .mkv files: 

02:46 - The Verge's David Pierce chats with Matt Johnson, director of the upcoming movie BlackBerry about what tech movies get wrong, why the BlackBerry really died, and how to portray the rise and fall of a top-of-the-world gadget.

• BlackBerry director Matt Johnson on why the iPhone won and why most tech movies suck

30:38 - David and Vergecast producer Andru Marino try to find out why it's so hard to find director's commentary on streaming services and the obstacles movie fans go through to listen to them.

• Where’s the director’s commentary on streaming?

57:25 - David talks with the directors and producer of the movie Missing about a new genre of movies that take place entirely on a computer screen, and how they get made.

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Andrew Hawkins discuss what's happening in the world of EVs and where that industry is headed.

Also: more Apple headset rumors and whatever the heck that Humane demo was last week.

Further reading:

• Apple’s AR/VR Headset Plans: iPad Apps, Fitness+, Sports Viewing, Gaming, Music - Bloomberg 
• Apple’s mixed reality headset could connect to a battery pack that looks like the iPhone’s
• Humane’s wearable screenless AI assistant leaks in first demo clips
• Apple is reportedly building a paid AI health coach
• Should we trust Apple with mental health data?
• 2023 Toyota Prius review: EV reality check
• GM is ending Chevy Bolt EV and EUV production at the end of the year
• GM killed the Chevy Bolt — and the dream of a small, affordable EV
• GM, Hyundai announce EV battery plants for the US
• Honda’s making a bigger electric SUV to follow the Prologue — due 2025
• Tesla’s carbon footprint is finally coming into focus, and it’s bigger than the company let on in the past
• Cruise continues to burn GM’s cash as robotaxis expand to daylight hours
• Amazon shuts down Halo division and discontinues all devices 
• Disney sues Florida for ‘government retaliation’ in escalating feud y
• Apple is reportedly developing its own journaling app for the iPhone
• Dyson Zone review: an absurd pair of air purifying ANC headphones

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Today on the flagship podcast of overthinking thermometers: 

The Verge's David Pierce and Dan Seifert discuss what’s happening in the weather app world, and hear from the developers of Carrot Weather and Hello Weather. 

• Apple’s Weather chaos is restarting the weather app market
• A Eulogy for Dark Sky, a Data Visualization Masterpiece 
• forecastadvisor.com
• Carrot Weather
• Hello Weather

Flipboard CEO Mike McCue joins David and Nilay Patel to discuss the potential of ActivityPub, a new standard for social networking that is more open, more user-centric, and potentially more powerful than Twitter and Facebook.

• Can ActivityPub save the internet?

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Today, things got a little loose in the studio of The Vergecast. Switched on Pop's Charlie Harding joins Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce to make their own version of Drake's AI summer classic. We're not saying a laser bong was involved, but we're not not saying that either.

Then deputy editor Alex Heath stops by to tell us about Snaps latest announcements and give us an update on the latest round of layoffs at Meta.

Finally, a lightning round with all the big headlines in tech from this week.

Further reading:

• AI Drake just set an impossible legal trap for Google
• Google employees label AI chatbot Bard ‘worse than useless’ and ‘a pathological liar’: report
• What’s really going on with ‘Ghostwriter’ and the AI Drake song?
• Family of F1 legend Michael Schumacher plans legal action over fake AI interview
• Snapchat releases My AI chatbot to all users for free
• Google’s big AI push will combine Brain and DeepMind into one team
• Netflix is shutting down its original DVD business after 25 years
• Netflix is out of the DVD business because streaming won – now, can Netflix still win?
• Twitter begins removing blue checkmarks from all legacy users
• It’s a laser bong
• SpaceX’s Starship successfully takes off before bursting into flames
• BuzzFeed News is being shut down
• Social media is doomed to die
• Google Fi has a new name and expanded connectivity support for smartwatches
• Leak: Google will announce the Pixel Fold at I/O and beat Samsung on battery
• Everything spy movies get right (and wrong) about smart glasses
• Microsoft is reportedly working on a smaller Surface Pro and Arm-powered Surface Go 4

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Today on the flagship podcast of quantum dots: 

02:33 - Makena Kelly explains the various attempts from the US government to ban TikTok, and how that could actually work. 

• TikTok ban: all the news on attempts to ban the video platform
• Inside the US government’s fight to ban TikTok

25:06 - Allison Johnson explains the state of the Android phone market, and where it’s headed next this year. 

• The best Android phone to buy in 2023

51:28 - Chris Welch explains why this may be the best time to buy an OLED TV. 

• This is the best time in a decade to splurge on a premium OLED TV
• Making sense of new TV features in 2022 

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