Business of Home Podcast

BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including more fallout from Hurricane Helene, a renovation boom and what a controversial celebrity home tour says about the state of design media. Later, Christina Juarez and Ben Reynaert share the story of their shoppable event, The Ticking Tent.  

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In recent years, Ruggable’s machine washable rugs have become a bona fide hit product, but the company is anything but an overnight success. Founder Jeneva Bell’s story is an agonizing tale of false starts, setbacks and roadblocks—it took almost a decade of effort to get Ruggable off the ground. Today the company employs hundreds across three factories, and drops regular collaborations with top designers like Martyn Lawrence Bullard, Jonathan Adler and Justina Blakeney. 

On this episode of the podcast Bell tells host Dennis Scully about how she found the resilience to get through hard times, why reading memoirs beats looking at social media, and why there’s more to success than just hard work.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including Havenly’s newest acquisition, Banana Republic’s exit from furniture, and why Hearst’s AI deal is drawing backlash. Later, columnist Warren Shoulberg joins the show to break down the state of play in home retail.  

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Mark D. Sikes came to design as a second career after decades in retail, but he’s made up for lost time. In just over ten years, he’s released three best-selling books, earned a spot on the AD100, and worked for high-profile clients like Reese Witherspoon, Nancy Meyers and Dr. Jill Biden. More recently, Sikes brought his take on classic American style to Blair House, redesigning an iconic Washington residence used to host heads of state: its guest list includes everyone from Winston Churchill to Justin Trudeau.

On this episode of the podcast, Sikes speaks to host Dennis Scully about why consistency has been the key to his success, the surprising strategy that helped his books take off, and why his muse is America.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including a quick end to the dockworkers strike, the shuttering of an online antiques site, and a look at whether a wave of silicosis lawsuits will upend the world of engineered stone. Later, East Fork CEO Alex Matisse joins the show to talk about Helene's impact and what comes next for North Carolina.   

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Watts dates back to the late 19th century, when three architects banded together to start a company that made fabrics and decor for both the church and residential use. Over the course of the next 150 years, Watts’ history would be intertwined with Britain’s—it produced garments worn during the coronations of Edward VII, Elizabeth II and Charles III. Today, it’s also a modern fabric and wallcoverings brand, sold to designers all over the world.

On this episode of the podcast, host Dennis Scully speaks to Watts’ creative director Fiona Flint and its managing director Marie Severine de Caraman Chimay (better known as “MS”) about how the company has survived a century and a half by staying nimble, the ups and downs of doing business in America, and how they walk the line between celebrating their history and looking to the future.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including this week’s port strike, why Zillow is highlighting climate risks, and Hurricane Helene’s impact on the design community. Later, designer and author Nasozi Kakembo joins the show to talk about her book on African decor.  

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Started as a shop for bathroom hardware in the 1970s, Waterworks has grown over the decades into a $200 million kitchen and bath company with national scale. Eight years after being acquired by RH, more growth is on the horizon: RH CEO Gary Friedman has said Waterworks could one day be a billion-dollar brand.  

On this episode of the podcast, CEO Peter Sallick talks with host Dennis Scully about what he’s learned from Friedman, finding the balance between art and engineering, and why the biggest challenge trade brands face is simply letting consumers know they exist.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including last week’s interest rate cut, a card game for design clients, and why a growing number of brands are turning to the trade. Later, designer David Netto and architecture critic Paul Goldberger join the show to talk about their new book on iconic New York architect Rosario Candela.

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You may not know the name Valdese Weavers, but you know their product. One of the last large-scale textile mills in America, Valdese produces fabric for everyone from retailers like Arhaus and RH to brands like Kravet and Thibaut. On this episode of the podcast, Valdese Weavers president and CEO Blake Millinor speaks with host Dennis Scully about how beige and gray took over the market; the challenges of delivering both performance and sustainability; and how Valdese has managed to thrive not by setting rigid five-year plans, but by staying loose, nimble and diversified.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including Asad Syrkett’s forthcoming departure from Elle Decor, RH’s latest earnings call and why millionaire renters are on the rise. Later, designer Leanne Ford joins the show to talk about her new book, The Slow Down.

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By day, Peter Dunham runs a busy design firm, but he’s also the owner of one of LA’s most notable showrooms—Hollywood at Home. The last time Dunham was on the podcast, he was navigating the confusions of Covid. Now he’s going bicoastal and opening a new showroom in New York under his own name.

On this episode of the show he speaks with host Dennis Scully about the differences between design culture in New York and Los Angeles, why textiles are like lipstick, and how he knew he was finally ready to expand.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including more challenges for furniture brands, whether the American dream still includes a house with a white picket fence, and a look at how paint colors get their names. Later, Tori Mellott joins the show to talk about her new book, Southern Interiors.  

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A veteran of the hospitality world, Nicole Hollis was part of the team that developed the W Hotels before going out on her own and pivoting to residential work. Over the course of two decades, Hollis built up an impressive firm, with a team of nearly 100 working out of her San Francisco office. Hollis herself has won numerous accolades for her work, including regular appearances on both Elle Decor’s A-List and the AD100.  

On this episode of the podcast she speaks with host Dennis Scully about how she built a big firm, step by step; why residential projects are more lucrative for her firm than commercial work; and why so much of her work with clients is about communicating the most information in the least amount of time possible.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including the ongoing controversy over quartz countertops, why college students are embracing luxury design for their dorms, and how brown became the color of wealth. Later, stylist Mieke ten Have joins the show to talk about her new book. 

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including Kaiyo’s abrupt closure, Ikea’s new secondhand marketplace, and a look at why Crypton is suing Williams Sonoma. Later, New York Times real estate reporter Debra Kamin joins the show to explore how a massive legal ruling has reshaped the way homes are bought and sold.

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A luxury resort tucked away in the foothills of Tennessee’s smoky mountains, Blackberry Farm defies easy categorization. Spread across thousands of acres, it encompasses everything from world class restaurants and spas to a fly fishing program, equestrian facility, farmstead and larder. Blackberry Farm also boasts a surprisingly robust design department, perhaps part of the reason why it has become a favorite getaway for luminaries in our industry. 

On this episode, proprietor Mary Celeste Beall speaks with host Dennis Scully about balancing different goals for different parts of the business, why it sometimes makes sense to spend on illogical investments, and the story of tragedy and resilience in her own life that underpins all of her work at Blackberry Farm.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including Perigold’s plans for brick-and-mortar stores, a housing check-in, and why the DCOTA is back on the auction block. Later, fashion designer Jenni Kayne joins the show to talk about her home line and her new hospitality venture.

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Born in New York, Jamie Bush studied architecture in New Orleans before finally making his way to Los Angeles, where his career took off. His multifaceted work is regularly featured in national magazines, and his firm is featured on the both the AD100 and Elle Decor’s A-List. On this episode of the podcast, Bush speaks to host Dennis Scully about why interior designers sometimes get more respect than architects, his early days working for Kelly Wearstler, and why his philosophy, at heart, is simple: Leave everything better than how you found it. 

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including another retail bankruptcy, why donating furniture is so challenging, and a look at how designers dress. Later, Rob Van Varick of Michael Graves Design joins the show to talk about the company's new accessibility collection with Pottery Barn.

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Ernie Hershberger is the founder and CEO of the furniture brand Abner Henry. Born and raised in an Amish community in Fredericksburg, Ohio, Hershberger grew up in his family’s century-old cabinetry workshop before launching his own furniture business. Over time, he got into the higher-end, custom side of the market and Abner Henry became a source for everyone from Sasha Bikoff to the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

In this episode of the podcast, Hershberger speaks with host Dennis Scully about challenging the perception around what Amish furniture is “supposed” to be, why he doesn’t believe in setting sales goals, and the surprising technology that powers his business.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including the return of Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams, some AI experiments from Houzz, and what a stock market crash might mean for designers. Later, real estate analyst Jonathan Miller joins the show to talk about whether the frozen housing market is finally heating up. 

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Hector and Emma Finch are the married couple behind the British lighting company Hector Finch. Started as an antiques business, the two have stayed true to their roots, producing a line of lighting inspired by classic early 20th century pieces. Today, the company's products are sold all over the world, including top showrooms in the U.S. 

In this episode of the podcast, host Dennis Scully speaks with the Finches about not getting hung up on knockoffs, the challenge of connecting with young designers, and why, no matter what the economic conditions, they’re focusing on slow-and-steady growth. 

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including a massive retail bankruptcy, the health of the high-end real estate market and the vanishing American porch. Later, Keith Granet of Studio Designer and Sarah Daniele of MyDoma join the show to discuss the deal that brought their two companies together.  

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Laura Sotelo, Kendall Knox, Ben Knox are the founders of the buzzy brand Olive Ateliers. In 2021, as a side hustle, the three friends started sourcing vintage pieces from all over the world and curating them into biweekly “drops” in Los Angeles. Almost immediately, there were lines around the block, their site took off, and Olive Ateliers developed a devoted fan base including designers and celebrities alike. 

On this episode of the podcast the three speak with host Dennis Scully why they wanted to start their business quickly, why the most effective sales tool is storytelling, and why they’ve come to believe in “strong opinions, weakly held”

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including a cyberattack on Bassett, a design software acquisition, and the fight over megamansions. Later, the founders of bathroom renovation startup The Unoriginal Bathroom Co. join the show to discuss their new venture.  

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Jomo Tariku’s life and career have followed a winding path, from his childhood in Ethiopia to a design degree in Kansas and a stint in data visualization at the World Bank. Today, he’s internationally recognized as a furniture designer, with pieces in the permanent collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Los Angeles County Museum of Art and the National Museum of African American History and Culture. Tariku is also the creator of an impactful 2020 study that demonstrated the startling lack of Black furniture designers working with major manufacturers. 

In this episode of the podcast, Tariku speaks with host Dennis Scully about why data is more powerful than anecdotal evidence, why he’s getting into wallpaper and other categories, and what it will take to truly make design a global language.

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BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including Etsy’s return to its artisan roots, surging home insurance premiums and key business lessons from the 50 States Project. Later, designer Susan Wintersteen joins the show to talk about founding Savvy Giving by Design. 

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When Alex Shuford-CEO of Rock House Farm, the family of brands that includes Century, Hickory Chair, and Highland House-was on the podcast last year, he was optimistic about 2024. Halfway through the year, his optimism remains intact, and once the smoke clears from the elections in the fall, he thinks the combination of pent-up demand and a generational wealth shift will lead to significant opportunity for the industry next year and beyond.

On this episode of the show, Shuford engages in a wide-ranging conversation about where the home industry might be heading next. He speaks with host Dennis Scully about the changing role of independent furniture stores, the state of competitors like RH and Arhaus, and why he’ll be testing out a multi-brand showroom in Vegas for the very first time.

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BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including he latest in the Kim Kardashian copycat lawsuit, a look at the D&D building’s new financial troubles, and a mid-year report card for home retailers. Later, Apartment Therapy founder Maxwell Ryan joins the show to talk about winning the new search game. 

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This spring, Thomas Lavin and Jobi Blachy of Quintus decided to experiment with taking their showrooms on the road, staging pop-up events in Southern California for local designers. The events were a success, and now they’re planning more—as well as a host of other concepts for connecting with the next generation of the trade.

On this episode of the podcast, they speak with host Dennis Scully about why designers will come out for an event but not a showroom appointment; what the mansion tax and the writer’s strike meant for the LA design scene; and what the Japanese concept of Kaizen has to do with running a showroom. 

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Founded in 1889, Bernhardt one of the oldest family-owned furniture companies in America (if not the oldest). However, under CEO Alex Bernhardt Jr.’s leadership, the company hasn’t leaned on its heritage—instead, it’s focused on aesthetics and staying ahead of the design curve. On this episode of the podcast, Bernhardt speaks about why he’s not stressed by dupes, why he believes the pandemic ate through eight or nine years of business, and why furniture is above all a fashion industry.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including supply chain snarls that some are calling "Covid Junior," out of control home prices and the future of the family decorator. Later, Rosemary Hallgarten and Thibaut CEO Rick Kilmer join the show to talk about the deal that will see their companies join forces.  

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Emily Tobin joined The World of Interiors in 2021 and has since earned a promotion to the top spot. Her mission is to preserve what makes the cult favorite magazine so delightfully unique while also delicately bringing it into the digital age. On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about the story behind Hamish Bowles’ tenure as editor in chief, why The World of Interiors didn’t have a website until 2022, and what’s behind the magazine’s incredible range—from dilapidated mansions to Madonna’s bedroom.  

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including RH earnings, the latest AI design tools, and Tom Dixon’s unconventional strategy for fighting knockoffs. Later, journalist Mitchell Owens joins the show to talk about his new job as editor in chief of The Magazine Antiques.

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An accomplished interior designer who cut his teeth working for the legendary Mark Hampton, Markham Roberts is known for rooms as refined as they are lively. His work has been widely recognized by the press, and he’s a regular on Elle Decor’s A-List and the AD100. On this episode of the podcast, Roberts speaks with host Dennis Scully about why clients having access to too much information is a double-edged sword, how publishing a book gave him three of his biggest jobs, and why, in interior design, staying calm is everything.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including the shuttering of Oka, serious accusations against Carpenter’s Workshop Gallery, a new Havenly acquisition, and an “adventure” with RH CEO Gary Friedman.

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Together, Jordan Slocum and Barry Bordelon—better known as The Brownstone Boys—have a unique hybrid business: a busy renovation firm that tackles historic restorations in New York City, and a fast-growing media presence that includes brand deals, TV appearances, and now, a new book. On this episode of the podcast, they speak with host Dennis Scully about playing “good cop, bad cop” on the job site, what Sesame Street has to do with brownstone renovations, and why they’re determined to keep going as both influencers and renovators.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including another photo theft scandal; the rise of branded residences, and why designers are having second thoughts about e-commerce. Later, Textile Eye editor Saana Baker joins the show to discuss trends and takeaways from spring fabric fairs

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Tom Verellen took a winding route to get where he is, one that took him from his native Belgium to Ohio, through a fabric importing business and finally to North Carolina. Today the company that bears his name, Verellen, is lauded as one of the industry's most imaginative furniture makers, with a collection that balances quality, sustainability and style.  

On this episode of the podcast he speaks with host Dennis Scully about how offering Belgian hospitality to his customers has helped his business stand out, why ivory boucle may have finally peaked, and why designers are key to the future of Verellen.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including a deep dive into the world of design newsletters, a cyberattack on Christie’s, and Elle Decor’s new A-List. Later, upholsterer Grant Trick joins the show to discuss a new partnership.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including including an e-commerce collapse, Williams Sonoma’s latest numbers, and a viral home tour show that’s taking viewers into some unexpected rooms.  Later journalist Stephen Treffinger joins the show to recap New York's design week. 

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Angus and Charlotte Buchanan are the husband-and-wife team behind London-based interior design firm Buchanan Studio. By taking a holistic approach to design, the pair have built a unique business that tackles everything from residential projects to products to events. Their inventive work has been recognized by press around the world, and their young firm is already winning a place on industry best-of lists.

On this episode of the podcast they speak with host Dennis Scully about working together as a couple, why getting into product has helped bring stability to their business, and why once a year they set aside time for pure creativity.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including  earnings reports from Arhaus and 1stdibs, highlights from Legends, and what’s behind a surge in custom furniture. Later retail columnist Warren Shoulberg joins the show to chat about Wayfair's first venture into physical retail. 

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Once an aspiring actor, Josh Wiener did small painting jobs to make a living while he auditioned for roles. Over time, contracting became his sole focus, his business and his passion, and today his company, SilverLining, is one of New York’s most prominent residential firms, collaborating with architects and designers like Peter Marino, Bunny Williams, and David Kleinberg. 

On this episode Josh speaks with host Dennis Scully about why building costs seem to keep going up, the problem with relying too much on renderings, and what separates a great designer from a good one.  

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including the fate of Banana Republic’s home brand, takeaways from the Kips Bay Decorator Show House, and what Instagram’s newest update could mean for designers. Later, artist and designer Justina Blakeney of Jungalow discusses a new phase of her career.

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Interior designer Julie Hillman started her career in fashion with a decade-long stint at Liz Claiborne. But after she built her own home, she got hooked on decorating, and turned it into a career. Now Hillman’s work is featured in magazines the world over, and her firm is an AD100 regular.  

On this episode of the podcast she speaks with host Denis Scully about the pleasures and perils of sourcing art for clients, why the collectible design movement is just getting started, and why, when it comes to the details of a project, she doesn’t like to settle on a single thing.

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BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including why Williams-Sonoma was fined by the Federal Trade Commission, the latest in the Cohen Brothers real estate saga, and what a noncompete ban could mean for the design industry. Later, restauranteur Will Guidara joins to introduce his new book, "Unreasonable Hospitality." 

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Growing up in Kenmare—a small town in County Kerry, Ireland—Bryan O'Sullivan learned the importance of hospitality and service from the comfort of his mom’s coffee shop. Pulled toward the field of architecture and design, he soon set off for school in London, and further honed his craft under design greats like Martin Brudnizki, Annabelle Selldorf and David Collins. In 2013, he took what he learned and launched his own firm. With a blend of hospitality and residential work, he quickly became one of the industry’s fastest-rising stars. 

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including the debut of a new source for designer fabric, the latest with Pirch, and a look at why luxury home sellers are slashing prices. Later, design journalist Ian Volner joins the show to recap Milan Design Week .

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